Did my qualification, today! Passed with 248! i was surprised, because I shot the 38 for the first time, just two days ago, and haven't shot a gun in 35 years. Now for fingerprints!
@@austingriffith8148 I know in my state you are required to get fingerprints for the LTC no matter if you've had them done before. Take the class get the certification, apply for license (PAY THE FEE) get fingerprints and a photo. Then wait for government to think about it for....... well whenever they feel like
That shooter looks like he knew how to shoot but he doesn't listen to instruction very well. I think it may have been the hearing protection lol. Instructor was spot on!
He should be able to hear him since he has that electronic headphones. Cancels out the loud gunshots but able to hear the instructor clearly like hearing aids.
It's nerves. Adrenaline kicks up a notch making it hard to do three hings at once... listen, aim/shoot/follow directions to the letter. It happens to all of us. We're made that way.
Criminal Justice student here. Doing my proficiency test tomorrow. I am pretty good at aiming, however, recently I suffer from balance problem, was worried it will affect my aim and grip.
Good solid score. The lowest I've ever shot is around the 243 mark when I first started carrying for work. Now I generally shoot a 250. I noticed this guy shoots a little to the left. Common problem for right handers. Has to do, most of the time, with his trigger pull.
Shooting left has to do with your support hand (left hand) not gripping the pistol hard enough. Since you can shoot a 250, I would encourage you to start shooting drills against the shot timer. Completely different animal
@@CraigSummers Sorry, but I must disagree. With me it was always my trigger pull. I started shooting long guns when I was 4. My dad taught me everything I needed to know about shooting them. We never owned a handgun because my dad never saw any need for one. These days, because of my job, I own4 handguns of different calibers including a compact 9. After practicing (dry firing) my trigger pull, the problem went away. I should probably mention that I'm left handed. the only time I shoot either to the left or the right is when I want to. while grip is important, as you have said, trigger pull can be equally important. I've completed every single shooting drill with handguns and long guns that the government wanted to put me through.
@@buisyman Ive trained over 200 people last year alone. All brand new gun owners. The support hand is usually the culprit. The gun always takes the path of least resistance
@@CraigSummers I'[ll take your word for it on that one. with me it was my trigger pull. Several other people I've spoken to over the years had the same trigger pull problem.
@@buisymanI am also a professional end user, who has high level tactical training. That's all I'll say because I dont want to doxx myself. But I agree. Trigger press is the master. The student in this video was even shooting fast. Grip becomes more important for follow up shots, not that it isn't important, because it certainly is. But i can hold the gun upset down and pull the trigger with my pinky and hit it dead center. Its the trigger press. Mantis X 10 elite helps.
@@CraigSummers , I scored 245. I was peeved that I didn’t compensate for the greater distance on my first two shots at the end. Regardless, I’m happy I passed everything!
Course of Fire: 3 yard line - 20 shots: 1 shot in 2 seconds, 5 times 2 shots in 3 seconds, 5 times 5 shots in 10 seconds, once 7 yard line - 20 shots: 5 shots in 10 seconds, once 1 shot in 3 seconds, 5 times 2 shots in 4 seconds, once 3 shots in 6 seconds, once 5 shots in 15 seconds, once If you shot all 5’s at the 3 and 7 you’d have 200 points before the 15, 25 points more than is needed to pass! 15 yard line - 10 shots: 2 shots in 6 seconds, once 3 shots in 9 seconds, once 5 shots in 15 seconds, once
@@busybustin832 super easy if you’ve already been shooting they cannot help you out so be prepared to clear jams and load when instructed! It took three weeks got it in the mail yesterday
Is it OK to pull the hammer back on a revolver for single action shooting before the first shot the series? If you can acquire the target fast enough can your shoot single action for the entire test?
@@CraigSummers Right now I am just trying to pass the test for LTC. I think I can shoot more accurately with a revolver in SA mode, but the examples in the video with a revolver were all done DA.
@@bikeman1x11 ive got a video on revolvers I encourage you to watch. From a class perspective it is likely to hold the rest of the class us due to smaller capacity and longer reload times vs semi-auto’s. They have their place
@@CraigSummers i understand needing to know how to safely handle a firearm an the need to be hit were you aim every time but what is the point of the whole 1 round 2 rounds 5 rounds 1 round.... like in the real world is someone going to be there to call to tell us how many times to pull the trigger i mean really lets think about this
@@CraigSummers I know it not your rule It's the law. I was just hoping you tell me the point because it does not show weather or not a person can or cant safely handle it it just shows that the can count. Have a blessed day and stay safe out there
@@Uturn831 Part of the point, is what is missing in the video....each shot sequence is timed, which induces stress. In this demonstration the instructor isn't telling the student how many rounds to shoot in each sequence, which for most good shooters is not significant. Additionally, depending on the loadout, the user may have to exchange a magazine within the time frame, which adds more stress. You're demonstrating proficiency with shooting, handling of recoil, loading and reloading, clearing a malfunction if one occurs, all within the time allotted and in a safe manner. This is not a live fire exercise meant to simulate a real world situation in which you would defend yourself or someone else. It is a demonstration of proficiency in all the above areas. If you're seeking something more life-like, look out for some tactical courses that have you shooting while moving, under, over or around obstacles, at targets that slide left-right, front-back. Even in those courses, you'll shoot a course of fire to demonstrate basic safety and proficiency. Take care all and be safe! www.bcsgunclass.com
What do you suggest if you’re a brand new gun owner and it’s your first time shooting. I want an LTC and knew about the classroom portion but not an actual shooting test. Should I practice first before setting this up?
@@CraigSummers I’m in Dallas. Even on the Texas LTC application it just says to submit the 101 or 100 classroom or virtual course certificate and nothing about a shooting qualification.
@@DallasTX_1122 I highly suggest taking a basic pistol class before you take the LTC. Look for something half day with actual range time that covers the 4 safety rules, how to use your sights, grip, loads and reloads...amongst other things.
@@CraigSummers How long from submitting the LTC application do you have to complete the fingerprint portion and class/shooting proficiency? They let me submit the application and pay the fee, but didn’t say how long I have to submit everything else with it.
In a lot of states, Military personnel (Active duty) and Veterans do not have to shoot if they can provide a copy of their range training card or qualifications to TX DPS. There are also classes of Corrections officers/jailers, etc., that do not have to shoot if it is a part of their job duties and they receive training in which they demonstrate proficiency as a part of the job qualifications. By your name on here "Army truth" I figure you fit in the first category I mentioned? www.bcsgunclass.com
@@OJSills-hd4nn Just want to point out that you have to apply for the LTC within 10 years of separation, or be in the reserves/guard (e.g. maintaining proficiency) for the military weapons proficiency credit to count in Texas. I retired from the military after 24 years, was special ops, a qualified marksman on just about every weapon for which marksmanship is recognized , special operations, 5 wars, blah, blah, blah, and moved here from Virginia where I maintained a concealed carry permit for 14 straight years after I retired, and all of that meant squat. I'm comfortable shooting, so it didnt matter to me, but it may surprise some vets. TBH, I see the logic in it. In Virginia, a guy could have fired his M1 in Army training in 1941, never fired a weapon again, marched in at the ripe old age of 99 and presented his DD-214 displaying his 'proficiency.'
5 pts per shot within 8 ring, 4 pts per shot within 7 ring, 3 pts per in silhouette, 0 missing the silhouette, need 175 to pass, 170 is a fail and the course of fire was mixed up at 7 yards as well. Single rounds come second to last at that distance.
uh oh. It is required by the state that it be a B27 in either black, blue, green and/or I think red is the last color that is allowed. what did yall use?
I've held a TX LTC (CHL) SINCE 2006. Any person unable to pass that test shouldn't be allowed in the SAME ROOM with a loaded firearm. The last time I had to qualify, my gun broke an extractor spring on the 3rd shots the instructor loaned ne his Gluck 19 ( I hate Glocks.) I still managed to shoot 246/250 with a gun I'd never laid eyes on before. My wife, with her own Glock, shot 240/250. Simply put, if you can load your own gun and can manage to make it through the test without flagging your instructor you can pass that test.
You get a lot of benefits from having the license, it lets you skip background checks at the gun store, and it really helps if you're traveling because the license is valid in a bunch of states that aren't constitutional
"Shooter ready."
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*PEWP*
*BEEP*
Did my qualification, today! Passed with 248! i was surprised, because I shot the 38 for the first time, just two days ago, and haven't shot a gun in 35 years. Now for fingerprints!
Why fingerprints
@@austingriffith8148 I know in my state you are required to get fingerprints for the LTC no matter if you've had them done before. Take the class get the certification, apply for license (PAY THE FEE) get fingerprints and a photo. Then wait for government to think about it for....... well whenever they feel like
@@jonsaircond8520 appreciate it
@@jonsaircond8520took mine a year
@@austingriffith8148you have to have fingers printed for LTC
That shooter looks like he knew how to shoot but he doesn't listen to instruction very well. I think it may have been the hearing protection lol. Instructor was spot on!
He should be able to hear him since he has that electronic headphones. Cancels out the loud gunshots but able to hear the instructor clearly like hearing aids.
@@deltaboy2011 he's nervous. and guy isnt actually listening for a response to shooter ready so might as well stop saying it and just beep.
He starts shooting as the instructor is checking the count😐
It's nerves. Adrenaline kicks up a notch making it hard to do three hings at once... listen, aim/shoot/follow directions to the letter. It happens to all of us. We're made that way.
Some of us are hard of hearing, you need to take that into account as well.
Took my proficiency test a year ago, perfect score. It isn't that difficult. just relax and AIM.
Criminal Justice student here. Doing my proficiency test tomorrow. I am pretty good at aiming, however, recently I suffer from balance problem, was worried it will affect my aim and grip.
Good solid score. The lowest I've ever shot is around the 243 mark when I first started carrying for work. Now I generally shoot a 250. I noticed this guy shoots a little to the left. Common problem for right handers. Has to do, most of the time, with his trigger pull.
Shooting left has to do with your support hand (left hand) not gripping the pistol hard enough. Since you can shoot a 250, I would encourage you to start shooting drills against the shot timer. Completely different animal
@@CraigSummers Sorry, but I must disagree. With me it was always my trigger pull. I started shooting long guns when I was 4. My dad taught me everything I needed to know about shooting them. We never owned a handgun because my dad never saw any need for one. These days, because of my job, I own4 handguns of different calibers including a compact 9. After practicing (dry firing) my trigger pull, the problem went away. I should probably mention that I'm left handed. the only time I shoot either to the left or the right is when I want to. while grip is important, as you have said, trigger pull can be equally important. I've completed every single shooting drill with handguns and long guns that the government wanted to put me through.
@@buisyman Ive trained over 200 people last year alone. All brand new gun owners. The support hand is usually the culprit. The gun always takes the path of least resistance
@@CraigSummers I'[ll take your word for it on that one. with me it was my trigger pull. Several other people I've spoken to over the years had the same trigger pull problem.
@@buisymanI am also a professional end user, who has high level tactical training. That's all I'll say because I dont want to doxx myself. But I agree. Trigger press is the master. The student in this video was even shooting fast. Grip becomes more important for follow up shots, not that it isn't important, because it certainly is. But i can hold the gun upset down and pull the trigger with my pinky and hit it dead center. Its the trigger press. Mantis X 10 elite helps.
Great video! I’m doing the shooting portion this Saturday. Looking forward to it!
Awesome! Let us know how you did
@@CraigSummers , I scored 245. I was peeved that I didn’t compensate for the greater distance on my first two shots at the end. Regardless, I’m happy I passed everything!
@@crackers472 awesome! There is no need to correct for distance at 15 yards. Im assuming the shots you pulled were low...correct?
@@CraigSummers , correct. They were low.
Thats a Very common issue. When you are ready, come check out our classes at templar defense for a refresher course or our concealed carry 1 class
Passed the proficiency test today at 249, that one 7's gonna bug me for a while!
Just passed mine yesterday with the same score
@@gilberttrevino8556 Congrats man! Jump on getting everything submitted to DPS asap. Took about a month to go from proficiency test to LTC in-hand
@@the_dudeguy thank you. And yeah I need my fingerprints done next then just wait after that
My LTC course was only from 10 feet
It would be helpful to know the time limits for each string.
There are websites out there. You can search "texas ltc qualification"
Course of Fire:
3 yard line - 20 shots:
1 shot in 2 seconds, 5 times
2 shots in 3 seconds, 5 times
5 shots in 10 seconds, once
7 yard line - 20 shots:
5 shots in 10 seconds, once
1 shot in 3 seconds, 5 times
2 shots in 4 seconds, once
3 shots in 6 seconds, once
5 shots in 15 seconds, once
If you shot all 5’s at the 3 and 7 you’d have 200 points before the 15, 25 points more than is needed to pass!
15 yard line - 10 shots:
2 shots in 6 seconds, once
3 shots in 9 seconds, once
5 shots in 15 seconds, once
Thanks for the info ! I’m taking mine this Tuesday and I just wanted to take a look at it
report back how you did
Thanks for the demo, now I got something to sorta expect sunday
Good luck. Report back your score
Taking my Texas LTC tomorrow I was pretty nervous good to see this!
Hey, I want to get mines, How was it?
@@busybustin832 super easy if you’ve already been shooting they cannot help you out so be prepared to clear jams and load when instructed! It took three weeks got it in the mail yesterday
Thank you, excellent. I will be taking mine soon.
Report back your score and experience
@@CraigSummers 👍
Doing my proficiency test tomorrow hopefully my my support hand/arm is deciding to work so i dont have to be one handed
What is the best way to think about loading magazines for this test? (Number of Mags, Rounds per Mag etc)
Your instructor will tell you
Sorry Im new at this,my question is do you use your own fire arm or does the instructor give you one to use for the test?
@@cris751 depends on the instructor. You are free to use your own if you have it
This has been a big help. Thanks.
i know this video is old, but you don't need to pull firearm from concealed each time?
no. it can be shot with the gun aimed in.
@@CraigSummersThanks, i'll be moving out to texas in the near future, and hope to get in a bunch of training. Coming from Hawaii
@@arkade- awesome! Hit us up if you settle in the Houston area
This helped ease my anxiety for taking this
Just purchased my first firearm and looking to get my LTC. I’m in San Antonio where are you located?
West of Houston. We shoot at Wallis Orchard Range
Nice grip.
Can you use a pistol with a red dot?
“Optical enhancers are not allowed”
awesome! just what i was looking for!
Thanks for watching
Whos firearm do you qualify with? Your own or a range weapon?
either or. doesn't matter
@@CraigSummers Thank you.
Great video 🙏💯
Thank you
Hi Craig, are you certified to do HR 218 for the retired police officers?
not sure. shoot me an email. training@templardefense.com
Thanks for this I really appreciate it.
Did this with my 1911 - that was a lot of mag changes haha
Very helpful. Great video
Glad it was helpful!
How long do you have to shoot after your initial buzzer?
depends on the distance. Come take a class and see for yourself
Is it OK to pull the hammer back on a revolver for single action shooting before the first shot the series? If you can acquire the target fast enough can your shoot single action for the entire test?
why are you shooting a revolver as a self defense weapon
@@CraigSummers Right now I am just trying to pass the test for LTC. I think I can shoot more accurately with a revolver in SA mode, but the examples in the video with a revolver were all done DA.
@@CraigSummers 😂😂
@@CraigSummers why not- near 100% reliable, easier under stress and six rounds of .357 will handle any self defense situation
@@bikeman1x11 ive got a video on revolvers I encourage you to watch. From a class perspective it is likely to hold the rest of the class us due to smaller capacity and longer reload times vs semi-auto’s. They have their place
Red hat guy seemed little to trigger happy kept forgetting for buzzer.
What if I am using a 5 shot revolver? How would this test work?
the test doesnt change...youll be doing a ton of reloading
@@CraigSummers i understand needing to know how to safely handle a firearm an the need to be hit were you aim every time but what is the point of the whole 1 round 2 rounds 5 rounds 1 round.... like in the real world is someone going to be there to call to tell us how many times to pull the trigger i mean really lets think about this
@@Uturn831 that is the course of fire required by the state. I dont make the rules
@@CraigSummers I know it not your rule It's the law. I was just hoping you tell me the point because it does not show weather or not a person can or cant safely handle it it just shows that the can count. Have a blessed day and stay safe out there
@@Uturn831 Part of the point, is what is missing in the video....each shot sequence is timed, which induces stress. In this demonstration the instructor isn't telling the student how many rounds to shoot in each sequence, which for most good shooters is not significant. Additionally, depending on the loadout, the user may have to exchange a magazine within the time frame, which adds more stress. You're demonstrating proficiency with shooting, handling of recoil, loading and reloading, clearing a malfunction if one occurs, all within the time allotted and in a safe manner. This is not a live fire exercise meant to simulate a real world situation in which you would defend yourself or someone else. It is a demonstration of proficiency in all the above areas. If you're seeking something more life-like, look out for some tactical courses that have you shooting while moving, under, over or around obstacles, at targets that slide left-right, front-back. Even in those courses, you'll shoot a course of fire to demonstrate basic safety and proficiency. Take care all and be safe! www.bcsgunclass.com
What do you suggest if you’re a brand new gun owner and it’s your first time shooting. I want an LTC and knew about the classroom portion but not an actual shooting test. Should I practice first before setting this up?
Where are you located?
@@CraigSummers I’m in Dallas. Even on the Texas LTC application it just says to submit the 101 or 100 classroom or virtual course certificate and nothing about a shooting qualification.
@@DallasTX_1122 I highly suggest taking a basic pistol class before you take the LTC. Look for something half day with actual range time that covers the 4 safety rules, how to use your sights, grip, loads and reloads...amongst other things.
@@CraigSummers How long from submitting the LTC application do you have to complete the fingerprint portion and class/shooting proficiency? They let me submit the application and pay the fee, but didn’t say how long I have to submit everything else with it.
maybe practice first- shouldnt be carrying without familiarity and skills
*175
Damned public school math 😂😂
@@CraigSummers🤣😂
To get m permit, I did not have to qualify ,
🤣
In a lot of states, Military personnel (Active duty) and Veterans do not have to shoot if they can provide a copy of their range training card or qualifications to TX DPS. There are also classes of Corrections officers/jailers, etc., that do not have to shoot if it is a part of their job duties and they receive training in which they demonstrate proficiency as a part of the job qualifications. By your name on here "Army truth" I figure you fit in the first category I mentioned? www.bcsgunclass.com
@@OJSills-hd4nn Just want to point out that you have to apply for the LTC within 10 years of separation, or be in the reserves/guard (e.g. maintaining proficiency) for the military weapons proficiency credit to count in Texas. I retired from the military after 24 years, was special ops, a qualified marksman on just about every weapon for which marksmanship is recognized , special operations, 5 wars, blah, blah, blah, and moved here from Virginia where I maintained a concealed carry permit for 14 straight years after I retired, and all of that meant squat. I'm comfortable shooting, so it didnt matter to me, but it may surprise some vets. TBH, I see the logic in it. In Virginia, a guy could have fired his M1 in Army training in 1941, never fired a weapon again, marched in at the ripe old age of 99 and presented his DD-214 displaying his 'proficiency.'
How does the scoring work?
5 pts per shot within 8 ring, 4 pts per shot within 7 ring, 3 pts per in silhouette, 0 missing the silhouette, need 175 to pass, 170 is a fail and the course of fire was mixed up at 7 yards as well. Single rounds come second to last at that distance.
@@SAFirEarms where did he get -7 from?
@@seekdiscomfort1942 not sure, my eyes aren't the best but I see -3, not -7.
@@seekdiscomfort1942 the "-" is just a tick mark used to identify the outside edge of ring 8. (7-(8)-7)
@@SAFirEarms You are seeing correct, the ticks are to identify the outer edge of the previous ring.
Guy ends up giving up sayin “ shooter ready” the old man couldn’t get it
He’s pressing the trigger too hard I had the same problem once I fixed that it was all center mass.
not necessarily. As long as your grip is strong enough, I can slap the hell out of the trigger and it wont do much to the gun
Congratulations on Constitutional Carry
Well it's not official yet, as of 6/9, but hopefully he'll sign it soon.
So there is no time limit?
@@rayg3354 there is a time limit. Its in the video
I am going to annoy my instructor and use a Single Action Army lol.
What if you hit the head
Which head??? Big head or little head? 😂😂😂. Anywhere in the green outside of the numbered rings is 3 points
@@CraigSummers 😂
Good video
Jumping the buzzard is not a DQ I take it?
not necessarily but if there were multiple people it can become a safety issue
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Scoring for the test goes as such: 50 yards are shot...
Thanks for catching that. Its been updated
Head shots don't count only to the body
Wrong
You actually need a 175 to pass.
yeah, brain fart on my end
That isn't the target I used for my LTC
uh oh. It is required by the state that it be a B27 in either black, blue, green and/or I think red is the last color that is allowed. what did yall use?
got em coach!@@CraigSummers
I've held a TX LTC (CHL) SINCE 2006. Any person unable to pass that test shouldn't be allowed in the SAME ROOM with a loaded firearm. The last time I had to qualify, my gun broke an extractor spring on the 3rd shots the instructor loaned ne his Gluck 19 ( I hate Glocks.) I still managed to shoot 246/250 with a gun I'd never laid eyes on before. My wife, with her own Glock, shot 240/250.
Simply put, if you can load your own gun and can manage to make it through the test without flagging your instructor you can pass that test.
Pretty much. You have to be very bad to fail
Same happened to me, but I shot a perfect score
Isn’t Texas an open carry.
Yes. In some places. There are still laws one must know
Can you take it if you only have 1 magazine?😂😂
Hope you open. Send a like I am from houston
Only 7 yards , next beep I hear I'm shooting lol not
I dont trust that guy with a gun. He literally aimed to shoot with the gun empty and slide racked back
shooter was very safe and he was not breaking any safety rules. its very common for new shooters to take some time to recognize a an empty gun.
Damn that guy is trigger happy lol but good video
Texas is Constitutional carry. There is no class or test, just carry.
@@BanditApache-nd6lu ok. 👍
You get a lot of benefits from having the license, it lets you skip background checks at the gun store, and it really helps if you're traveling because the license is valid in a bunch of states that aren't constitutional
@@bilboplayedminecraft3322Agree
Bull hit.
50 yards? lol not even close
Fail.