‘कौन हैं भारत माता?’ Javed Akhtar और Purushottam Agarwal की बतकही
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- गुरुवार को दिल्ली के जवाहर भवन में लेखक #PurushottamAgarwal द्वारा संपादित किताब ‘कौन हैं भारत माता?’ का विमोचन हुआ. किताब का विमोचन प्रसिद्ध शायर-विचारक #JavedAkhtar ने किया. इस दौरान उन्होंने #JawaharlalNehru को याद किया और उनसे जुड़े किस्से साझा किए.
उन्होंने कहा, "मैं खुशकिस्मत हूं कि मुझे नेहरूजी से ऑटोग्राफ लेने का मौका मिला. जब मैं 14-15 साल का था तब मेरे तीन हीरो हुआ करते थे- नेहरू, कृष्ण चंदर और दिलीप कुमार. 1963 में तीन मूर्ति भवन में जब उनका आखिरी जन्मदिन मनाया गया तब मुझे वहां जाने का मौका मिला था. आज भी नेहरू बहुतों को बहुत पसंद हैं और कुछ को नापसंद हैं. लेकिन वह लगातार प्रासंगिक हैं.”
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What a thoughtful session. Mr. Puroshuttam Aggarwal and Mr. Javed Akhtar discussed everything from positives to negatives about the time.
Now this is called a debate, no matter whether we agree with what both gentlemen have opined on the matter...
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Javed Ji is as rational as he always is. However, this Mr Agarwal thinks, the people of India are fools. He tries to prove with silly evidences that the direction of Mr Nehru was right. He even quotes Mr Obama that mixed economy was the best option. If Obama really thought so, he would have done something in this direction. Did he? It is the established historical fact that policies of Nehru led to division of India, dispute over Kashmir, losing war against China and leaving India as a rich country with poor people. A China with all the military might and 7 times bigger economy than India, can't dare to dictate terms to India. This is the policy in right direction............Bharat Mata ki Jai.
@Anju Patel I don't know. Will it for you to decide. 🙏
@Dev raj Dev China 14.34, India 2.86 to be more precise. China population 1.4 billion, India population 1.3 billion.
How can it be debate when both are of the same view? Javed Akhtar said in his opening sentence. Where is the contra रिण view?
Purushottam sir has written an outstanding book....I have the English version. I was a student of JNU and a resident of Sutlej hostel. Sir was our hostel warden and came out as a loving human being, yet a disciplinarian! An outstanding academic and thinker of this country...we have so much to learn. Thank you sir, for this book and evwrything else. And what to say Javed Sahab!! A true Bharat Ratna🙏
ये वार्ता उन व्हाट्सएप यूनिवर्सिटी के इतिहास के छात्रों को समर्पित है जिनका इतिहास बोध व्हाट्सएप के आने के बाद शुरू हुआ,धन्यवाद न्यूज़लॉन्ड्री ऐसे शानदार कार्यक्रम के लिए
Arey sir wo sb pagla gye h abhi unko farq ni pdega
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और आपका you tube बाली University, sir थोड़ा दिमाग खोलो अपना नही तो अल्लाह हु अकबर चिलाओगे किसी दिन ।
@@shivbhadoriya48 थोड़ा दिमाग रखिए, खुद का,व्हाट्सएप से इतिहास मत उठाइये,आपके विचार सही है,हर किसी को सही लगता है खुद का दृष्टिकोण लेकिन आपकी सोच सही ही हो जरूरी तो नही,व्हाट्सएप तो आज आया है इसके पहले भी ऐसा बहुत साहित्य आता था
@@navneettanenia4905 दोस्त समस्या बहुत जटिल जितना आसान आपको लग रहा है उतना है नही इसलिए समझो इस वामपंथ, और इस्लाम के घटजोड को । एक बार the jaipur dialogue channel को भी देखो।
Bharat Mata is nothing but the people of the country. If people are suffering, Bharat mata is also suffering. Anyone tells you to see both of them differently is running an agenda. Country is nothing without its citizens. Now take the example of people who kill citizens and chant bharat Mata ki jai, aren't they killing the very soul of Bharat mata?
Yes they are
Stories they believe have made them so.. until they suffer personally it's difficult to make them understand
Bhaiyo Beheno, hum bache na bache, humare log bache na bache, yeh desh bachna chahiye!
Grt
👏👏👏 well said
Sadly many people are not thinking on these lines.. Jai Bharat mata
What a beautiful and intelligent conversation. I wonder when we'll have such a logical and rational discussion again on our TV sets. Heere ho aap log, mera salaam!
Opinion matters when you have to distinguish between things.
Yes you should see when they take side of their people cleverly and we all left over alone.
Achhi achhi baate sabhi kar lete hai agar ham unse influence ho jaate hai toh hamaare andar kami hai. Ham toh apne logo ke liye hi sochna chahiye chahe biased hi kyu na hona pade.
@@gowe6944 yaha pe apne logo ki hi baat ho rahi thi.
@@gowe6944 Buddy you're either really confused or you have not watched the whole thing and then just came straight down to the comment section. They are talking about India and Nehru. There is no us and them in this conversation. There are no sides. I know what you mean by "apne log" but for me apne log means all Indians irrespective of their faith, rahi baat inki, both of them are true patriots, something that small minded people will never be. I'm sorry but I smell bigotry. Agr biased hona bhi hai then be biased towards the oppressed and the truth.
Mai is video ke liye comments nahi kiya general comments kiya hu.
Ye log bas achhi achhi baate kar lete hai kahi par bhi lekin time par apne log ka hi side lete hai.
Bas chutiya banaate hai khub achhi achhi baate karke.
Isliye jo aadmi jo baate bolta or kahta hai uspar nahi jao jo karta hai uski analysis karo 👍👍
This proves that it takes deep sense of knowledge and understanding to even know the essence of India
Absolutely. India is so vast, varied and complex. Yet a great edifice of "Unity in Diversity".
Gazwa e Hind planning?
@@austin426512 don't know about gazwa e hind, but I know chutiya-e-hind now.
You are right. India can't be understood from islamic prism. So islam chod insan bane
@khizer Khan fair point. Takes a subtle outlook, deep understanding and patient effort. A long amalgamation of ancient Dharmic lineage and the more recent Abrahamic thought culminating into current chaos. Still, we will overcome this darkness that spreads in Kali Yuya. Needs love, care and wisdom to dissect and process.
बहुत बेहतरीन संवाद था, निश्चित रूप से अतीत के अनुभवों से सीख कर हम आगे का रास्ता सुगम बना सकते हैं।
किंतु हम ईमानदार हों तभी ऐसा हो सकता है,
No one thinks that India shoul be disintegrated and merged into Pakistan, China, Bangladesh and Shrilanka. If someone thinks so, this piece of writing is not for him.
As we believe, India should exist and prosper as a nation, we need to find why are we a nation?
Some historian will say that we were never a nation. It is a creation of British. Although it may be partly true, it is not the full truth. If British were so good in building large nations, they would have kept a big one for themselves as well. Today, they are limited to a tiny island. Therefore, this argument is defeated. Some will say; Mahatma Gandhi, the father of the nation created India when the people of the land got united under his leadership to fight against British rule and over threw them. This argument is also not true as the people of Dhaka, New Delhi and Lahore faught togather against British though we are three different nations. Someone like Purushottam Ji says that the nationhood of India is unique in the world. It is unity in diversity. Why should we believe it? If it didn't work before 1947, why are we so confident that it will work in future?
India is an ancient cultural nation, extending from Himalaya to Kanyakumari and Hindukush to Myamar. (Even Mr Agarwal and his god Nehru Ji believed though a bit late) The geographical territory of our nation has shrunk as we haven't nourished it properly. In fact, people don't know where is the root. Therefore, we don't irrigate and nourish it. Some of us are taught that it is unity in diversity, so we spray nutrients on the branches. More precisely on weaker branches.
Without being politically correct and in the larger interest of the nation with its citizens, I reiterate with full conviction; the root and stem of our nation is its hinduness. All the branches of of diversity would flourish on it and will give vivid colours of greatness if the root is healthy and the stem is strong.
Hinduness of every citizen needs to be identified and nurtured. Everryone in the country has his or her hindu connection either by birth or through ancestry. A minor segment which believe that they migrated from somewhere else and were never hindu in any sense could be persuaded to accept the hinduness by association. A large number of indians living abroad aquire and assimilate the assence of the nationhood of the land truly and effortlessly. Therefore, it is not difficult to do the same here. However, before requesting the migrants to establish association with hinduness, the indegenous population should disply it in full frame. Arousing their hinduness and reassuring their non-political religious aspirations can be achieved easily if we make an honest attempt.
A healthy hinduness which is honest, hard working, compassionate and accomodating; can bring the old glory to our beloved Bharat Mata.
Any attack of our hinduness is an attack on 'Bharat Mata'.
Sir imandar to only muslims hota h iska mtlb ye hua ki rasta sugam nhi hoga ..
@@Cghj_ ye kya kah rahi hain bahan ji. India mein jitna crime ho raha hai usme aadha to wahi log kar rahe hain. Abadi to abhi 5 mein ek hi hai.
Javed sir is such a good person . Thank you newslaundry for this .
No one thinks that India shoul be disintegrated and merged into Pakistan, China, Bangladesh and Shrilanka. If someone thinks so, this piece of writing is not for him.
As we believe, India should exist and prosper as a nation, we need to find why are we a nation?
Some historian will say that we were never a nation. It is a creation of British. Although it may be partly true, it is not the full truth. If British were so good in building large nations, they would have kept a big one for themselves as well. Today, they are limited to a tiny island. Therefore, this argument is defeated. Some will say; Mahatma Gandhi, the father of the nation created India when the people of the land got united under his leadership to fight against British rule and over threw them. This argument is also not true as the people of Dhaka, New Delhi and Lahore faught togather against British though we are three different nations. Someone like Purushottam Ji says that the nationhood of India is unique in the world. It is unity in diversity. Why should we believe it? If it didn't work before 1947, why are we so confident that it will work in future?
India is an ancient cultural nation, extending from Himalaya to Kanyakumari and Hindukush to Myamar. (Even Mr Agarwal and his god Nehru Ji believed though a bit late) The geographical territory of our nation has shrunk as we haven't nourished it properly. In fact, people don't know where is the root. Therefore, we don't irrigate and nourish it. Some of us are taught that it is unity in diversity, so we spray nutrients on the branches. More precisely on weaker branches.
Without being politically correct and in the larger interest of the nation with its citizens, I reiterate with full conviction; the root and stem of our nation is its hinduness. All the branches of of diversity would flourish on it and will give vivid colours of greatness if the root is healthy and the stem is strong.
Hinduness of every citizen needs to be identified and nurtured. Everryone in the country has his or her hindu connection either by birth or through ancestry. A minor segment which believe that they migrated from somewhere else and were never hindu in any sense could be persuaded to accept the hinduness by association. A large number of indians living abroad aquire and assimilate the assence of the nationhood of the land truly and effortlessly. Therefore, it is not difficult to do the same here. However, before requesting the migrants to establish association with hinduness, the indegenous population should disply it in full frame. Arousing their hinduness and reassuring their non-political religious aspirations can be achieved easily if we make an honest attempt.
A healthy hinduness which is honest, hard working, compassionate and accomodating; can bring the old glory to our beloved Bharat Mata.
Any attack of our hinduness is an attack on 'Bharat Mata'.
Very crucial issues were raised and discussed
न्यूज़ लॉन्ड्री का बहुत बहुत शुक्रिया 🙏🙏 बहुत ही शानदार प्रोग्राम था 🙏🙏
इन जैसे लोगों को राज्यसभा में होना चाहिए, रोने धोने वाले नमूनों को नहीं
जावेद अख्तर तो राज्य सभा में रह चुके हैं ।
पत्नी शबाना आजमी अभी राज्य सभा में हैं ।
Prateek Merebhai Sachchi Sahi Kaha. Ppar Inko Rajyasabha Bhejega Kaun?
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अरे लंगूर ऐसे बंदर ही राज्य सभा की शोभा बढ़ाते थे
Javed Ji is as rational as he always is. However, this Mr Agarwal thinks, the people of India are fools. He tries to prove with silly evidences that the direction of Mr Nehru was right. He even quotes Mr Obama that mixed economy was the best option. If Obama really thought so, he would have done something in this direction. Did he? It is the established historical fact that policies of Nehru led to division of India, dispute over Kashmir, losing war against China and leaving India as a rich country with poor people. A China with all the military might and 7 times bigger economy than India, can't dare to dictate terms to India. This is the policy in right direction............Bharat Mata ki Jai.
'When two experienced minds talk to each other, it ignite other ardent minds.'
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क्यू तुम्हारे पास खुद का दिमाग नही हैं जो दूसरे ignite कर रहे हैं ।
If someone has no ideology such people are like bin pending ka lota.
@@shivbhadoriya48 It's called learning ... keeping an open mind to educate yourself for the better!
Thank you Newslaundry for publishing this. It was so refreshing to hear the two learned and well read gentlemen (a rarity in these times).🙏
Very true
धन्य हो गया ईन दो महानुभावों की वार्तालाप सुनकर 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
बहुत दिनौ बाद बौद्धिक खुराक मिली ।
What a great conversation!!!
Its worth to watch this dialogue to understand many burning issues and solutions of modern India.
What a wonderful summary!
CRITICISM is one thing,
DISMISSAL is another, but,
DISTORTION is altogether different
Criticism of Nehru was so intense that it lis equivalent to dismissal. His intent and policies were solely responsible for division of India, creation of Kashmir dispute, 1962 war debacle and India beling 7 times poorer than China despite having abundant natural resources. We were unfortunate to have the leader like him at the critical juncture of our history.
Persons who read jawahar lal know what was his ideology and what were his programmes.he was innovative but positive.he valued the feelings of indians.
Wow. I am speechless, such a beautiful conversation. Everyone must listen to these two most learned people.
Javed Ji is as rational as he always is. However, this Mr Agarwal thinks, the people of India are fools. He tries to prove with silly evidences that the direction of Mr Nehru was right. He even quotes Mr Obama that mixed economy was the best option. If Obama really thought so, he would have done something in this direction. Did he? It is the established historical fact that policies of Nehru led to division of India, dispute over Kashmir, losing war against China and leaving India as a rich country with poor people. A China with all the military might and 7 times bigger economy than India, can't dare to dictate terms to India. This is the policy in right direction............Bharat Mata ki Jai.
@@tejtiwary4309 Har kisi k comment mein jaake same hi response chipka de rahe ho Tiwary ji 🤣 kya baat hai? Bhajpa IT cell se nahi jude hue ho?
@@pranavthakur329 It takes time to construct a useful comment. There is nothing wrong in sending to all those who I think it is relevant for. By the way, I am not fro Bhajpa IT cell.
@@tejtiwary4309 Lol true there's nothing wrong with it. Just out of curiosity tell me aur kitne logo pe chipkaya ye "useful" comment?
@@pranavthakur329 The three big ones on approx 30 all togather. There are some indivisual conversation numbering approx the same.
One of my most favorite books. Highly recommended to everyone
@Manish Erande Please, use your brain. At least for our country.
@Manish Erande subject matter is hindu writer is hindu, but sanghis have mind of Satan.
Can't deal with them...
@Manish Erande brother manish , if you are reading anti muslim books just to hate muslims , your conscience, compassion , humility , kindness as a human has already died. and most importantly you are adding poison to your vision of others. and i can read pro hindu books as well as anti muslim books.
@Manish Erande There is a reason why we have nations like Islamic Republic of Saudi Arabia, Islamic Republic of Iran, Islamic Republic of Pakistan, etc.... and not Christian republic of America / England / France, nor Hindu republic of India / Nepal, Buddhist republic of Maynmar/China. Don't become like them just because you vehemently disagree with them. Don't sell you brain and become like muslims just cause you don't like them. If you make India, a Hindu republic of India what difference is between you and an Islamist ?
You are right
islam chod insan bane
Always a pleasure to listen Javed sahab
No one thinks that India shoul be disintegrated and merged into Pakistan, China, Bangladesh and Shrilanka. If someone thinks so, this piece of writing is not for him.
As we believe, India should exist and prosper as a nation, we need to find why are we a nation?
Some historian will say that we were never a nation. It is a creation of British. Although it may be partly true, it is not the full truth. If British were so good in building large nations, they would have kept a big one for themselves as well. Today, they are limited to a tiny island. Therefore, this argument is defeated. Some will say; Mahatma Gandhi, the father of the nation created India when the people of the land got united under his leadership to fight against British rule and over threw them. This argument is also not true as the people of Dhaka, New Delhi and Lahore faught togather against British though we are three different nations. Someone like Purushottam Ji says that the nationhood of India is unique in the world. It is unity in diversity. Why should we believe it? If it didn't work before 1947, why are we so confident that it will work in future?
India is an ancient cultural nation, extending from Himalaya to Kanyakumari and Hindukush to Myamar. (Even Mr Agarwal and his god Nehru Ji believed though a bit late) The geographical territory of our nation has shrunk as we haven't nourished it properly. In fact, people don't know where is the root. Therefore, we don't irrigate and nourish it. Some of us are taught that it is unity in diversity, so we spray nutrients on the branches. More precisely on weaker branches.
Without being politically correct and in the larger interest of the nation with its citizens, I reiterate with full conviction; the root and stem of our nation is its hinduness. All the branches of of diversity would flourish on it and will give vivid colours of greatness if the root is healthy and the stem is strong.
Hinduness of every citizen needs to be identified and nurtured. Everryone in the country has his or her hindu connection either by birth or through ancestry. A minor segment which believe that they migrated from somewhere else and were never hindu in any sense could be persuaded to accept the hinduness by association. A large number of indians living abroad aquire and assimilate the assence of the nationhood of the land truly and effortlessly. Therefore, it is not difficult to do the same here. However, before requesting the migrants to establish association with hinduness, the indegenous population should disply it in full frame. Arousing their hinduness and reassuring their non-political religious aspirations can be achieved easily if we make an honest attempt.
A healthy hinduness which is honest, hard working, compassionate and accomodating; can bring the old glory to our beloved Bharat Mata.
Any attack of our hinduness is an attack on 'Bharat Mata'.
लोग अभी भी नेहरू को पढ़ लिख और समझने की कोशिश कर रहे है यही नेहरू जी को महानता है🙏🙏
बेईमान हैं नेहरु
पाकिस्तान की बाउंड्री 48 km दूर थी जिसको 250km कर दिया यहीं महानता है
shi kaha bhai aapne...nehru ko smjhna or pdhna wakai ak alg kaam hai
खुद को बुद्धिमानी का नमूना समझता था ,
जितना सोचता था , खुद ही समझ लिया कि दुनिया को वही सोचना बंद कर देना चाहिए
@@snowcrystal10jjjv😊0v,
किसानों की हालत देखकर जो गुस्से से फूल जाते है,
नेता, विधायक, मंत्री बनने के बाद किसानों को भूल जाते है
Very very good details.
Uttam Aati Uttam
I totally agree. शिक्षा ही एकमात्र विकल्प है जो मनुष्य को तार्किक और विवेकशील बना सकती है और यही शिक्षा का सर्वोच्च उद्देश्य है....
What a fantastic discussion between two educated people. We have to now wait for channel like news laundry for such education. Earlier many news channels did this. Keep up the good work NL.
Greetings from a fellow traveller. মুক্তচিন্তার স্বাধীনতা আজ সবচেয়ে জরুরি।
@Stallion Spirit UP se toh behat hai na.
Unite, Speak up against Injustice, Unemployment, rights. Save Democracy Save Constitution. Live for Humanity Help needy. Jai Bharat Jai Hind Jai Jawan Jai Kisan 🙏❤️❤️
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This interview is so logical, rational and Full of knowledge that i watched in parts otherwise my mind would have exploded 😭
Kal raat me hi soch ra tha bht time se Javed sahab dekh ni rae
Thanks newslaundry.
Jawad sahab ne logo ko smajhana kam kardiya hai jabse india mein 90 percentage chotiya ke population badh gayi hai isliya Jawad sahab kam boltey hai..
Both are very thoughtful people
Mixture is the real beauty of India 🇮🇳
👍
islam chod insan bane. Nahi to ye mixture jaldi hi khatam ho kar sharia hoga
@@himdude9637 thanks for advice, I would love to die as a Muslim but neither I will advise you to change your religion nor I will force you to change your religion , however you must follow your religion as per your religious books, hope you will understand and be positive
@@ahmedsayyed4259 the moment you said you will not ask me to come to islam. You ceased to be a Muslim. You are just a munafiq born from muslim parents
I don't have my religious book. I follow Dharma
@@himdude9637 thank you for your certificate
@@himdude9637 how 😱? Every person born as a Muslim so how you declare me munafiq? 🤔
BRILLIANT + BEAUTIFUL + INFORMATIVE + INTELLECTUAL CONVERSATION N BOTH PANELLISTS
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Look at the intellectual honesty of this discussion - cannot imagine such self-awareness or expression thereof from the other side of the ideological aisle
Very good observation. These people have academic credentials. The other side of ideological divide is mostly comprised of WhatsApp University graduates.
@@malaydeb2895 and convicted criminals.
@@Black182heart I didn't include them out of modesty.
When Mr Agarwal says Achetan Bhagat, his hatred for individual becomes apparent.
ऐसे विचारक ही देश की असली ताकत हैं ।
I have bought the wonderful book by agarwalji. How beautiful the vision of jawaharlal nehru. Thanks purushothamji for this wonderful book....
Secular indian democracy must win.
Respect for our former prime minister jawaharlal nehru increased very much more after reading the book.
Please post the english version of this interview. Newslaundry
WE ARE TOUGHT WRONG THINGS WHEN NEHRU WAS OUR PM. BUT NOW AT THIS AGE OF 75 WE CAME TO KNOW HOW NEHRU AND HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS RUINED OUR COUNTRY AND PEOPLE.
Joke of the day. Nehru's direction was right.😂😂
Everyone must listen this conversation.
Looking forward for more of these intellectual's talks
Don't do that. Haram hai islam me
@@himdude9637 दोस्त ruclips.net/video/Vly2QuL1UBA/видео.html
Fascinating discussion. Good job news laundry
Arrest nehru for high petrol prices
Ha.....Ha.....Ha
Was abt to comment the same
Yes he brought secularism otherwise India would be having saudi oil wells like US.
🤣😂👌🙈🙉
Don't arrest anyone for high petrol prices. It is no more regulated and moves up or down depending on crude price which also depends on supply and demand.
Arrest selfish Nehru's supporters for
1.Division of India
2.Non-sense economic policies leaving india a poor country with rich resourses
3.Kashmir issue
4.Debacle of 1962 China war
5. Many more.....
Thank you newslaundry for uploading this
जावेद अख्तर साहब के विचारों का तो मैं पहले से ही कायल था लेकिन आदरणीय श्री पुरुषोत्तम अग्रवाल जी के विचारों ने मुझे बेहद आवश्यक रोशनी दी है।
मैं इस किताब को खरीदकर पढ़ने के लिए बेताब हूँ।
खेद इस बात का है कि पूरी बातचीत के अंत में यह नही बताया कि यह किताब घर बैठे मंगाई किस लिंक के माध्यम से जा सकती है...!
He was chairman of UPSC interview board
Enlightning,, this is the real talent and jewels of Indian society,, Great job Newslaundry
Wonderful to listen to intellectual minds rather than garbage news and garbage people
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Great discussion,Have been missing such thoughts since 2014.Totally forgot about t(e present situation of Our country.Having came back from the past after the discussion was over,a unforeseen fear engulfed me of the present conditions of our country.Never imagine that country with such a beautiful past will be governed by such people.Oh what happened and worst still to come.
Sir debate was so knowledgeable. Nehru Sir was so brilliant, his vision was so clear that today because of him policies we are competing. globally.
Then also explain how india lost 1962 war because of Nehru's china love and wrong policies and why he took the post of prime minister even when he lost the Congress president Elections two times.....
Yes he was a great intellectual but not a good leader . A man can be a good leader only with strength in character.
@@tanishqraj123 There was no election for congress president. He was selected by Gandhi. And even Sardar Patel agreed with Gandhi. Read history of congress and independence movement from writers like Prof Agarwal, not at twitter, facebook and whatsapp university.
@@ratnadeepdutta4920 Hitler, Stalin, Mao-tse-tung, Nathuram Godse all have strength of character I know.
@@tanishqraj123 Did India have the necessary military strength to face China in 1962. The result would have been same no matter who would have been the PM in 1962. That's the bitter truth.
बहुत ही उम्दा संभाषण । आप दोनो दिग्गजो का असंख्य धन्यवाद । आशा हे श्रोताओ की मन की खिड़किया खुलेंगी । 🙌🙌
अंधभक्तो को पसंद नही,वे इस महंगाई में भी खुश हैं, आमदनी बढ़ी नही,रोज़गार मिल नही रहा किन्तु पेट्रोल गैस दाम बढ़ गए,अब छमता नही।
Beautiful. baat karne ka tareeeka lajwaab hai , sunn ne mein maza aata hai.
Bahut achha subject discuss hua aur guest bhi Bahut ache bulaye the. Thanks to the news laundry for such talks.
This is what I call a "healthy criticism". Listen the criticism and you will receive a pure knowledge. Forget the background of these 2 people..forget what religion they follow..even forget their name for a few moment..just listen the conversation. This is exactly I'm proud of being Indian.
If Mr Agarwal says that direction of Nehru's economic policy was right, it is the discussion between a darbari writer and Javed Ji. Nehru was a disgrace for our nation. Dukh ke siwa kuchh nahin diya Nehru ne is desh ko. He is a disgrace for the country.
@@tejtiwary4309 you can have your opinion.. please argue with facts.. it would be better...
@@tejtiwary4309you will surely get ur ans once you meet him...
We need more people like these two in our country.
@Bear Brar So true.
thank you news laundry for this best program
Please bring more such shows
Thank you NL for sharing this wonderful conversation
bhai maja aa gaya. bohot din baad meaningful coversation suna.. thanks newslaundry
After a long time hearing Jawed sir in his unique style of talking..with another stalwart Purushottam ji..feeling elated..
Jawed sahab ki trah Islam chod insan bane
Satyarth prakash padhe insaan bane . Jahilon ka jahilon ke liye banaya mazhab chod insaan bane .
It's a mesmerizing experience to listen this gem...Javed saab❤️
दोस्त ruclips.net/video/SFoYEcEWPeo/видео.html
He's no! Saab than an opportunist eying upon any given opportunity to get you and yr ilks as yr slave like his ancestors did
The beauty of books can never fade away !
Wonderful talk lot to learn about
Thanks to news laundry
Very good, U all deserved
Arré waah...A big thank you to newlaundry for this...🙏
Beautiful & highly meaningful, deep thinkikg debate.........kudos to Mr. Aggarwal
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Really knowledgable...I don't understand those people who disagreed with this talk🤔🤔🤔
Watch the jaipur dialogue channel, then you will find the narrative
@@shivbhadoriya48 JD is the best eye opener channel with IAS officer Sanjay dixit Brother showing the nitty gritty of shallowness woven by these hypocrites
@@mastmaula2452 yes my friend आप भी चैनल का प्रचार करे ।
@@shivbhadoriya48 sure! I do!
instead, we have to do it as our duty!
@@shivbhadoriya48 smaran rakhiyega! We gotta take JD to a million! I've done my bit ask others as well!
Already ordered ✅
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No one thinks that India shoul be disintegrated and merged into Pakistan, China, Bangladesh and Shrilanka. If someone thinks so, this piece of writing is not for him.
As we believe, India should exist and prosper as a nation, we need to find why are we a nation?
Some historian will say that we were never a nation. It is a creation of British. Although it may be partly true, it is not the full truth. If British were so good in building large nations, they would have kept a big one for themselves as well. Today, they are limited to a tiny island. Therefore, this argument is defeated. Some will say; Mahatma Gandhi, the father of the nation created India when the people of the land got united under his leadership to fight against British rule and over threw them. This argument is also not true as the people of Dhaka, New Delhi and Lahore faught togather against British though we are three different nations. Someone like Purushottam Ji says that the nationhood of India is unique in the world. It is unity in diversity. Why should we believe it? If it didn't work before 1947, why are we so confident that it will work in future?
India is an ancient cultural nation, extending from Himalaya to Kanyakumari and Hindukush to Myamar. (Even Mr Agarwal and his god Nehru Ji believed though a bit late) The geographical territory of our nation has shrunk as we haven't nourished it properly. In fact, people don't know where is the root. Therefore, we don't irrigate and nourish it. Some of us are taught that it is unity in diversity, so we spray nutrients on the branches. More precisely on weaker branches.
Without being politically correct and in the larger interest of the nation with its citizens, I reiterate with full conviction; the root and stem of our nation is its hinduness. All the branches of of diversity would flourish on it and will give vivid colours of greatness if the root is healthy and the stem is strong.
Hinduness of every citizen needs to be identified and nurtured. Everryone in the country has his or her hindu connection either by birth or through ancestry. A minor segment which believe that they migrated from somewhere else and were never hindu in any sense could be persuaded to accept the hinduness by association. A large number of indians living abroad aquire and assimilate the assence of the nationhood of the land truly and effortlessly. Therefore, it is not difficult to do the same here. However, before requesting the migrants to establish association with hinduness, the indegenous population should disply it in full frame. Arousing their hinduness and reassuring their non-political religious aspirations can be achieved easily if we make an honest attempt.
A healthy hinduness which is honest, hard working, compassionate and accomodating; can bring the old glory to our beloved Bharat Mata.
Any attack of our hinduness is an attack on 'Bharat Mata'.
Two of the Eminent personalities to whom we can listen every time, especially on concurrent issues ranging from liberalization, culture, religion, politics to Media and to Social media and Cinema....... Thanks a lot Newslaundry !
thanks NL for bringing this on your platform. took a day to go through but worth the time.
I think the reason why Pt. Nehru is targeted today is because the India, in current shape and form, is the manifestation of Nehru’s frame of thought, vision and ideas. Those extreme right wingers have fundamental problem with progressive Indian fundamentals. In order to counter the Indian thought process, it is important to ridicule the foundation of this thought process. So attack Nehru which will eventually result in demolition of modern Indian foundation.
I am lucky to listen these two intellectuals. India will miss them when they wont be around.
Lovely discussion on insights to Nehru as and a person,politician & a seer for the future of India.Kudos to Shri Agrawal for writing this book & also to Shri Javed Akhtar for raising some important questions nicely replied by Shri Agrawal.
thank you so much newslaundry... love you a lot. proud subscriber. 😍😘🙏
IIT and IIM was the idea and establishment of Maulana abdual kalam azad and of course nehru as he was PM
One of the best video on nehru life
No one thinks that India shoul be disintegrated and merged into Pakistan, China, Bangladesh and Shrilanka. If someone thinks so, this piece of writing is not for him.
As we believe, India should exist and prosper as a nation, we need to find why are we a nation?
Some historian will say that we were never a nation. It is a creation of British. Although it may be partly true, it is not the full truth. If British were so good in building large nations, they would have kept a big one for themselves as well. Today, they are limited to a tiny island. Therefore, this argument is defeated. Some will say; Mahatma Gandhi, the father of the nation created India when the people of the land got united under his leadership to fight against British rule and over threw them. This argument is also not true as the people of Dhaka, New Delhi and Lahore faught togather against British though we are three different nations. Someone like Purushottam Ji says that the nationhood of India is unique in the world. It is unity in diversity. Why should we believe it? If it didn't work before 1947, why are we so confident that it will work in future?
India is an ancient cultural nation, extending from Himalaya to Kanyakumari and Hindukush to Myamar. (Even Mr Agarwal and his god Nehru Ji believed though a bit late) The geographical territory of our nation has shrunk as we haven't nourished it properly. In fact, people don't know where is the root. Therefore, we don't irrigate and nourish it. Some of us are taught that it is unity in diversity, so we spray nutrients on the branches. More precisely on weaker branches.
Without being politically correct and in the larger interest of the nation with its citizens, I reiterate with full conviction; the root and stem of our nation is its hinduness. All the branches of of diversity would flourish on it and will give vivid colours of greatness if the root is healthy and the stem is strong.
Hinduness of every citizen needs to be identified and nurtured. Everryone in the country has his or her hindu connection either by birth or through ancestry. A minor segment which believe that they migrated from somewhere else and were never hindu in any sense could be persuaded to accept the hinduness by association. A large number of indians living abroad aquire and assimilate the assence of the nationhood of the land truly and effortlessly. Therefore, it is not difficult to do the same here. However, before requesting the migrants to establish association with hinduness, the indegenous population should disply it in full frame. Arousing their hinduness and reassuring their non-political religious aspirations can be achieved easily if we make an honest attempt.
A healthy hinduness which is honest, hard working, compassionate and accomodating; can bring the old glory to our beloved Bharat Mata.
Any attack of our hinduness is an attack on 'Bharat Mata'.
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रोजगार है कहाँ, अभी 2017 का लटका पड़ा है
@@sasyed8196 hm, lkin khte to rhna hi hoga
So thoughtful and critical conversation on various topics.. Pleased to watch such an interview in current times.
Javed sahab refused to give autograph on that book and said ma deserve nhi krta... such is the level
No one thinks that India shoul be disintegrated and merged into Pakistan, China, Bangladesh and Shrilanka. If someone thinks so, this piece of writing is not for him.
As we believe, India should exist and prosper as a nation, we need to find why are we a nation?
Some historian will say that we were never a nation. It is a creation of British. Although it may be partly true, it is not the full truth. If British were so good in building large nations, they would have kept a big one for themselves as well. Today, they are limited to a tiny island. Therefore, this argument is defeated. Some will say; Mahatma Gandhi, the father of the nation created India when the people of the land got united under his leadership to fight against British rule and over threw them. This argument is also not true as the people of Dhaka, New Delhi and Lahore faught togather against British though we are three different nations. Someone like Purushottam Ji says that the nationhood of India is unique in the world. It is unity in diversity. Why should we believe it? If it didn't work before 1947, why are we so confident that it will work in future?
India is an ancient cultural nation, extending from Himalaya to Kanyakumari and Hindukush to Myamar. (Even Mr Agarwal and his god Nehru Ji believed though a bit late) The geographical territory of our nation has shrunk as we haven't nourished it properly. In fact, people don't know where is the root. Therefore, we don't irrigate and nourish it. Some of us are taught that it is unity in diversity, so we spray nutrients on the branches. More precisely on weaker branches.
Without being politically correct and in the larger interest of the nation with its citizens, I reiterate with full conviction; the root and stem of our nation is its hinduness. All the branches of of diversity would flourish on it and will give vivid colours of greatness if the root is healthy and the stem is strong.
Hinduness of every citizen needs to be identified and nurtured. Everryone in the country has his or her hindu connection either by birth or through ancestry. A minor segment which believe that they migrated from somewhere else and were never hindu in any sense could be persuaded to accept the hinduness by association. A large number of indians living abroad aquire and assimilate the assence of the nationhood of the land truly and effortlessly. Therefore, it is not difficult to do the same here. However, before requesting the migrants to establish association with hinduness, the indegenous population should disply it in full frame. Arousing their hinduness and reassuring their non-political religious aspirations can be achieved easily if we make an honest attempt.
A healthy hinduness which is honest, hard working, compassionate and accomodating; can bring the old glory to our beloved Bharat Mata.
Any attack of our hinduness is an attack on 'Bharat Mata'.
No one needs to associate to Hinduness as every faith teaches the same essence and principles and everyone have their own set if values, which they should adhere to by understanding it correctly. Those migrated here dint come as refuges but by conquering the land. And even if someone's ancestors were Hindu as long as as they chose another faith no one has the right to ask them to associate with another faith. Not even ancestors even if today someone wants to leave Hinduism and follow another faith, or leave other faith and follow Hinduism they as human being have full right.
Stop associating religion with nation which is the root cause of all problems
With All his faultlines Nehru is still by far the greatest leader India has ever produced. The reason why nobody is close to him cause nobody else is even talked enough and or even relevant enough to talk about all their mistakes and faults. U can love him or Hate him but u can't ignore The Giant among Giants Pandit Nehru.
Belive me I dont support Congress even a bit. I just want a better alternative for this nation.
Nehru was and is still a giant. Undeniably.
@Vijay Manjrekar Whatsapp university graduate spotted.
@Vijay Manjrekar who told you ?
Who kept Sheikh Muhammad Abdulla arrested for years together ?
@Stallion Spirit what is liberandu ?
@Stallion Spirit No. He was just a power seeker
By the time people realize who is right or wrong, it will be too late.
@Stallion Spirit I agree with you
MODI IS SO WRONNG
@@ijeshwardhillon4927 no issue sikh and punjab don't vote for Modi or BJP. They vote for 1984 Congress
@Stallion Spirit By then India will die as a Country.
@Stallion Spirit absolutely 👍.... BTW....dono buddhe apni apni frustration nikal rahe hain😁
i really enjoyed this video ..... thanks news laundry .
I respect Gandhi Ji. His thought and actions were deeply imbeded in India. He sacrificed everything including his family for the country.
Nehru wasn't the same. In fact, he was a selfish, megalomaniac and short sighted man. He didn't agree for Jinna to be the PM of united India and became instrumental in division of India. He experimented with the economic future of India and left it as a far poorer country than its potential. If Chetan Bhagat says that Nehru would have changed the economic model in 1955 when he realised that it is not working, what is wrong in it? Manmohan Singh did it in 1991 but people who carried it over the years were selfish people who sacrificed the nation for there political aspirations. The darbari historians like Mr Agarwal is still justifying it and displaying his hatred for many by mocking at them.
What was the reason behind Nehru accepting Tibet as part of China. Did he seriously feel that Tibet is inherent part of China? Was he scared of China? If he thought that it is not right why he didn't oppose? If he was scared, why didn't he align with the world powers to counter it? How could he support China for the membership of Security Council? Was he a fool or a extremely short sighted, scared leader of the largest future democracy in the world? Did he timely make any serious attempt to establish co-operation with the world powers to defend our borders. There are a number of disasters done by him which could have been prevented if he was a leader who deserved respect. For me he is a disgrace.
A very high quality conversation. Thank you for organizing it and putting it up on Newslaundry. Look forward to reading the book.
wow...this was a great talk...end up watching full session
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Javed Saab, a pleasure to hear as always
Converted
@@shivbhadoriya48 you can still revert and worship Ishwara
@@danishzaheer3600 fact is fact पूरे sub continent में सब converted हैं , दिक्कत यह नहीं convert हुए दिक्कत यह है डर की वजह से convert हुए तलवार की वजह से अपनी मां बहन की आबरू बचाने के लिए। किसी ने भी प्यार से इस्लाम नही पकड़ा पता करना जरा अपने ancestor के बारे मैं ।
@@shivbhadoriya48 You can still revert back to Ishwara if you ancestors were afraid of Brahmins its there fault not yours because vedas teach that children keep on carrying burden of father and start worshipping Almighty Supreme being.
@@danishzaheer3600 nonsense बातें पड़े हैं veda , बात मेरी नही है शाहब बात यहां तुम्हारी है बता नही बने तुम डर की वजह से मुसलमान ।
Very impressive, logical program and I will say thanks , organised the event
specially thanks to writer proshottam Agarwal,kown hai bharat mata and Javed akhtar sb
No one thinks that India shoul be disintegrated and merged into Pakistan, China, Bangladesh and Shrilanka. If someone thinks so, this piece of writing is not for him.
As we believe, India should exist and prosper as a nation, we need to find why are we a nation?
Some historian will say that we were never a nation. It is a creation of British. Although it may be partly true, it is not the full truth. If British were so good in building large nations, they would have kept a big one for themselves as well. Today, they are limited to a tiny island. Therefore, this argument is defeated. Some will say; Mahatma Gandhi, the father of the nation created India when the people of the land got united under his leadership to fight against British rule and over threw them. This argument is also not true as the people of Dhaka, New Delhi and Lahore faught togather against British though we are three different nations. Someone like Purushottam Ji says that the nationhood of India is unique in the world. It is unity in diversity. Why should we believe it? If it didn't work before 1947, why are we so confident that it will work in future?
India is an ancient cultural nation, extending from Himalaya to Kanyakumari and Hindukush to Myamar. (Even Mr Agarwal and his god Nehru Ji believed though a bit late) The geographical territory of our nation has shrunk as we haven't nourished it properly. In fact, people don't know where is the root. Therefore, we don't irrigate and nourish it. Some of us are taught that it is unity in diversity, so we spray nutrients on the branches. More precisely on weaker branches.
Without being politically correct and in the larger interest of the nation with its citizens, I reiterate with full conviction; the root and stem of our nation is its hinduness. All the branches of of diversity would flourish on it and will give vivid colours of greatness if the root is healthy and the stem is strong.
Hinduness of every citizen needs to be identified and nurtured. Everryone in the country has his or her hindu connection either by birth or through ancestry. A minor segment which believe that they migrated from somewhere else and were never hindu in any sense could be persuaded to accept the hinduness by association. A large number of indians living abroad aquire and assimilate the assence of the nationhood of the land truly and effortlessly. Therefore, it is not difficult to do the same here. However, before requesting the migrants to establish association with hinduness, the indegenous population should disply it in full frame. Arousing their hinduness and reassuring their non-political religious aspirations can be achieved easily if we make an honest attempt.
A healthy hinduness which is honest, hard working, compassionate and accomodating; can bring the old glory to our beloved Bharat Mata.
Any attack of our hinduness is an attack on 'Bharat Mata'.
What a wonderful and informative talk!
Life main agar kisi ki help Kare to hum life long unko thanks bolte hai phir Nehruji thanks to bahut small word hai. Per aap dono ki batoo ki gahraee ko is video through share karne ke liye sukriya
अन्ध विश्वास करने का भी मौलिक अधिकार होता है
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A very enlightening and "rational" dialogue
Rational r u serious , watch this also
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I also shared the same message in my Facebook post few days back. I took this message from first episode of bharat ek khoj serial.
THIS IS KNOWLEDGE STUFF PROBABLY NOT FOR ANDH BHAKTAS
🤣😂 i agree
Still you will be ruled by those who are selected by andhbhakts..irony Maxx
@Vijay Manjrekar www.newslaundry.com/2015/12/08/we-must-reunite-why-pakistan-india-and-bangladesh-should-be-one-country this will solve the problem to your statement.
@@AG-sh1pi You are Arnab Goswami in another name totally understand he may win come next year as winner but in history it will be black day in our democracy.
@Stallion Spirit very well said
Very good informative discussion,
Very informative discussion away from noisy 4th pillar.
इससे अच्छी, सारगर्भित और सार्थक बातचीत क्या होगी।
No one thinks that India shoul be disintegrated and merged into Pakistan, China, Bangladesh and Shrilanka. If someone thinks so, this piece of writing is not for him.
As we believe, India should exist and prosper as a nation, we need to find why are we a nation?
Some historian will say that we were never a nation. It is a creation of British. Although it may be partly true, it is not the full truth. If British were so good in building large nations, they would have kept a big one for themselves as well. Today, they are limited to a tiny island. Therefore, this argument is defeated. Some will say; Mahatma Gandhi, the father of the nation created India when the people of the land got united under his leadership to fight against British rule and over threw them. This argument is also not true as the people of Dhaka, New Delhi and Lahore faught togather against British though we are three different nations. Someone like Purushottam Ji says that the nationhood of India is unique in the world. It is unity in diversity. Why should we believe it? If it didn't work before 1947, why are we so confident that it will work in future?
India is an ancient cultural nation, extending from Himalaya to Kanyakumari and Hindukush to Myamar. (Even Mr Agarwal and his god Nehru Ji believed though a bit late) The geographical territory of our nation has shrunk as we haven't nourished it properly. In fact, people don't know where is the root. Therefore, we don't irrigate and nourish it. Some of us are taught that it is unity in diversity, so we spray nutrients on the branches. More precisely on weaker branches.
Without being politically correct and in the larger interest of the nation with its citizens, I reiterate with full conviction; the root and stem of our nation is its hinduness. All the branches of of diversity would flourish on it and will give vivid colours of greatness if the root is healthy and the stem is strong.
Hinduness of every citizen needs to be identified and nurtured. Everryone in the country has his or her hindu connection either by birth or through ancestry. A minor segment which believe that they migrated from somewhere else and were never hindu in any sense could be persuaded to accept the hinduness by association. A large number of indians living abroad aquire and assimilate the assence of the nationhood of the land truly and effortlessly. Therefore, it is not difficult to do the same here. However, before requesting the migrants to establish association with hinduness, the indegenous population should disply it in full frame. Arousing their hinduness and reassuring their non-political religious aspirations can be achieved easily if we make an honest attempt.
A healthy hinduness which is honest, hard working, compassionate and accomodating; can bring the old glory to our beloved Bharat Mata.
Any attack of our hinduness is an attack on 'Bharat Mata'.
Absolutely inttelectual and so informative talks amazing i really appreciate such usefull talks
Javed Akhtar after so long
Bahut badla badla sa bol raha hai. Ab pahle wala nahi raha
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The country belongs to all religions and in this democratic country everyone has the right to express his views.
Amit. People like you make India truly special. That's why we stayed so , this long. God bless you
@Mr AGGARWAL Good for you Mr Agarwal. Great job. 👍😊
Appropriate tareef of Purushottamji is that he is Purushottamji.
Great show
Knowledge conversation
Thanks 😊
Nehru ji sab kush the lekin beimaan jroor the
Such a wonderful intellectual talk ----- I am enriched ---- nehru's policies were good for the nation
there are 250 million people in poverty as of now . Pretty good policies.
He made his daughter PM , grandson PM. Great grand son is preparing to become PM.
Very-2 thanks @Newsloundry for such a knowledgeable discussion.
We need people like these.. and discussions .. humanities study must be part of every study ..
Good discussion
Very very real and relevant analysis. Thanks to news laundry.
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Dono hi vidwan hain.. Maza aa gya inko sunakr.. Lag rha tha k8 baate khatm hi na ho