The Illegal Aircraft Carrier - Ryūjō

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • A decade before the outbreak of World War 2, the Japanese Imperial Navy was already building its strength. But limited by strict international treaties that aimed to prevent another naval arms race after World War 1, the Japanese Empire's expansionist dream was about to be smothered.
    Still, the Japanese were determined to bulk up their fleet. Taking advantage of a loophole, they cleverly outsmarted the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922, which restricted the amount and size of ships that the signatories could build.
    They then built a secret aircraft carrier that was too small to be considered a proper one, yet robust enough to take several torpedo bombers, dive bombers, and fighters to the seas.
    By the time the international authorities realized the technicality, IJN Ryūjō, or the Prancing Dragon, was already under construction, and became the only light aircraft carrier of its kind - and in fact, an outlaw…

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  • @CMTechnica
    @CMTechnica 2 года назад +1996

    Pretty much every nation, the US included, violated the loopholes in the Washington Naval Treaty. Japan building a light carrier is hardly an exception when you look at what every other fleet fielded leading up to WWII

    • @Usmvalor3
      @Usmvalor3 2 года назад +1

      It was kinda sneaky, and scummy in one major way though. This and London Naval treaty were expertly orchestrated to screw over everyone except for USN, simply because they wanted to have fleet on at least par with the Brits.

    • @Marin3r101
      @Marin3r101 2 года назад +145

      Ahh minimizing one to bash others. How classy.

    • @AdmRose
      @AdmRose 2 года назад +261

      The US and Britain were the two countries that strictly adhered to the Treaty. Japan did at first, then tried some creative ship designs that were not entirely successful and then finally just outright lied regarding tonnage. The Italians just gave questionable tonnage numbers from the start and the French took advantage of the lack of restrictions on destroyers.

    • @jeebusk
      @jeebusk 2 года назад +138

      Rules are pointless without enforcement, the surprising thing is how hard some countries tried to adhere to the naval treaties.

    • @AdmRose
      @AdmRose 2 года назад +51

      @@jeebusk Yea they seemed to overlook the whole “enforcement” part when they wrote the Treaty.

  • @bernardtimmer6723
    @bernardtimmer6723 2 года назад +38

    In the 1930s the Japanese navy built a whole fleet of support vessels easily converted to actual carriers. Most or all were converted to operational carriers by World War II. They also built a number of light cruisers(6.2 inch guns) easily converted to heavy cruisers(8.1 inch guns) while conceiling their actual displacement.

  • @HarborLockRoad
    @HarborLockRoad 2 года назад +610

    I just built the Hiryu and Soryu out of cardboard. Didnt come out bad at all. You really get an appreciation for the japanese carriers when you build them from scratch.

    • @kevindavis5966
      @kevindavis5966 2 года назад +104

      Those ships are almost 750 feet in length - where did you find all of the cardboard, and where in the world did you put them?

    • @highdesertutah
      @highdesertutah 2 года назад +62

      Let us know when you take them to sea.

    • @ankursin
      @ankursin 2 года назад +30

      @@kevindavis5966 he just build a replica much smaller than actual size

    • @christiant.s.f.9029
      @christiant.s.f.9029 2 года назад +78

      @@ankursin wooshhh

    • @skydiverclassc2031
      @skydiverclassc2031 2 года назад +37

      I bet that a firecracker dropped from a dive bomber put an end to that.

  • @paulsteaven
    @paulsteaven 2 года назад +77

    "Prancing Dragon"
    I love how poetic the IJN naming convention is for their aircraft carriers unlike the other naval powers. But they broke that trend when the Amagi (of the Unryuu class) was commissioned.

    • @tremedar
      @tremedar 2 года назад +9

      Not so much broke a trend, as made Amagi a carrier, one way or another. Either a battlecruiser conversion or a keel up design, they were naming a carrier after that mountain.

    • @mikasa2858
      @mikasa2858 2 года назад +14

      I don't know much about IJN. But the trend is still alive in JMSDF submarine Sō ryū class like Sō ryū (Blue Dragon) ,Un ryū (Cloud dragon), Haku ryū (White Dragon), Ken ryū (Sword Dragon), Koku ryū (Black Dragon), Jin ryū (God's Dragon), Shō ryū (Rising dragon), + 5 other Sō ryū class. The names might be not so poetic but each dragon has its background story. And 9 Oya-shio class submarines are all named after "tide" like 〇〇shio.

    • @anthonycaruso8443
      @anthonycaruso8443 Год назад

      It makes it easier to attack people who are sleeping.

  • @BloodyApril
    @BloodyApril 2 года назад +107

    It carried 21 B5N2 Kates and 18 A6M2-21 Zeros. Participated in Aleutian campaign along with Junyo. During Midway operation. On June 3rd 1942 one of its Zeros was captured when the pilot tried to land in a marsh on Adak Island thinking it was a grass field. The pilot Tadayoshi Koga broke his neck. The plane was found by a PBY Catalina, shipped to a testing ground, studied and test flown by American pilots who learned its strengths and weaknesses. The A6M2-21 best carrier fighter of that time. The Ryujo was a medium aircraft carrier. Almost comparable to Junyo. Which carried 24 Aichi D3A1 Val dive bombers and 21 Mitsubishi A6M2-21 fighters. Ryujo and Junyo were 4th carrier division. Zuiho and Shoho were light carriers of the 3rd carrier division. They could only carry 12 Zeros and 12 Kates.

    • @armorer94
      @armorer94 2 года назад +14

      The zeros were fast and agile, but if you did manage to hit it, it went up like a Roman candle. The plane's agility was the result of not building armor into the design. Once the US had faster, more agile aircraft (Corsair. Hellcat) the zeros advantage was negated.

    • @TheStugbit
      @TheStugbit 2 года назад +13

      Her biggest problem was the small stern elevator which didn't allow for bigger aircraft to be used. But still managed to carry Kates and Zeros.

    • @adriendiaz739
      @adriendiaz739 2 года назад +16

      The zero crashed on Akutan, and it’s where it got its name, the Akutan Zero.

    • @paoloviti6156
      @paoloviti6156 2 года назад +2

      Yes but this particular Zero that was recovered upside-down and seriously damaged was actually assembled with parts from various downed or damaged Zeros recovered from various places including also the engines. Unfortunately it finished it's career when it was chopped in pieces by an airplane handled by a green pilot.....

    • @BloodyApril
      @BloodyApril 2 года назад +2

      +@@armorer94 That didn,t come until the A6M3-22 best Zero performance wise. Flown by Japan,s top ace. Hiroyoshi Nishizawa. Tainan Kokutai.

  • @堀水英則
    @堀水英則 2 года назад +54

    龍穰はそれほど大きな艦では有りませんでしたが、大戦中は沈没する迄縦横無尽の活躍を見せた非常に優秀な名艦でした。

    • @WyvernApalis
      @WyvernApalis Год назад +3

      A great war crime machine

    • @riki65848
      @riki65848 Год назад +14

      @@WyvernApalis Ryujo didn't kill innocent people. Greatest war crime machine is B29.

    • @jimmydm3
      @jimmydm3 Год назад

      @@riki65848 Greatest war crime machine in WWII was the Japanese soldier. Killed and raped women and children, and brutalized the civilian population in the territory they seized.

  • @kentowakai1234
    @kentowakai1234 2 года назад +29

    You are absolutely nailing the pronunciation of the Japanese names. Impressive.

    • @zer0bre
      @zer0bre 2 года назад +2

      Not that hard...

    • @kirkwcowgill
      @kirkwcowgill 2 года назад

      But he flubs the pronunciation of Chinese cities.

    • @michaelwandrick5306
      @michaelwandrick5306 5 месяцев назад +1

      That’s not a human narrating this film it’s A I and obviously you couldn’t tell the difference…. Don’t feel bad no one else can’t either ….That’s what scares a daylights out of everybody about A I… we now cannot believe any videos or photographs that we see now….A I can make photographs that humans cannot tell the difference between real and fake…. These are scary times we’re entering…. That’s why it’s so important for the politicians to be an office…… and frankly the group we have now have an average age of 60 they’re not gonna cut it……. we are part of the transition over to part human part computer type of humans hybrids if you will……. 75 and already I miss the old way……. At least I won’t be around to see it at its peak, but unfortunately, I’m gonna be around to see it start….. help…… wake up America

  • @slappy-chicken
    @slappy-chicken 2 года назад +18

    Talk about "think outside the box". Even with all it's flaws, the ship was an engineering marvel. Man, I love learning about WWII. I wish the war had never happened. I guess a "positive" of the war were the technological breakthroughs humankind made. And by that i mean advances that had a positive impact for greater good of society.

    • @nimay13
      @nimay13 2 года назад +2

      Necessity is the mother of invention. Also, when in war there’s no budget factor to consider.

    • @Keti_Mporta
      @Keti_Mporta 2 года назад +1

      War has driven technological development through most of human history

    • @Sherwoody
      @Sherwoody 2 года назад

      My first impression was that it looked like a scow, but it was actually a useful little carrier.

  • @danzervos7606
    @danzervos7606 2 года назад +188

    This is the aircraft carrier that lost the Zero in the Aleutians nearly intact that Americans recovered and were to analyze and determine best measures to defeat it.

    • @jandmchavez
      @jandmchavez 2 года назад

      The Japanese had taken Howard hueses airplane to make the zero fighter .

    • @danzervos7606
      @danzervos7606 2 года назад +19

      @@jandmchavez Howard Hughes? I think that theory has been disproven. The Zero was a unique design that did use some of the design elements of other aircraft, but then all aircraft manufacturers were using advances by other companies.

    • @dave8599
      @dave8599 2 года назад +3

      Very interesting information on the source of our first captured Zero. thanks!

    • @Rammstein0963.
      @Rammstein0963. 2 года назад +10

      @Dan That's based on a American and British ego trip of the time, declaring that there was NO WAY the Japanese managed to invent a plane superior to what we had (this mindset was born of anti Asian racism btw).

    • @FoxMacLeod2501
      @FoxMacLeod2501 2 года назад +4

      @@Rammstein0963. The powerful white people, who write most of the history books the world pays attention to, love this. The show _Ancient Aliens_ is largely built upon their unconsciously racist assumptions and feelings toward the myriad peoples they've decided to view as inferior.
      "There's no _way_ that _anyone_ before us, let alone the ancient hordes of primitive, darkly-complected _savages,_ could ever have built such marvels as the pyramids and temples found in far-away deserts and jungles. It's been phrenologically proven to be intellectually inferior to but an average male child of a land-owning contemporary Londoner; the primitives do not even inherently comprehend the King's English, for God's sake! Nay, glorious, massive, and durable as the ancient structures are...
      _IT SEEMS MORE REASONABLE THAT _*_SPACE ALIENS_*_ BUILT THE PYRAMIDS, RATHER THAN ANY NON-WHITE HUMAN BEINGS WHO ACTUALLY, DEMONSTRABLY LIVED THERE._

  • @Mortifix
    @Mortifix 2 года назад +7

    These videos have been perfect for me lately. Been going pretty hard on World of Warships so I am appreciating the lore.

  • @williampaz2092
    @williampaz2092 2 года назад +1197

    When the US Navy converted battle cruiser hulls into aircraft carriers Lexington and Saratoga they pushed the displacement envelope to the breaking point. To this day it is claimed these two great ships were 33,000 tons as allowed by the Washington Naval treaty. When an anti-torpedo bulge was added it was claimed that the “armoring up”clause in the treaty allowed this and merely pushed the displacement to 36,000 tons. Impossible. The original battle cruisers would have displaced 45,000 tons and the USN simply built aircraft carriers starting on the engineering deck and up. Lexington and Saratoga were 48,000 tons at least. Imperial Japanese Navy aircraft carrier Akagi was 41,000 tons and IJN Kaga was 43,000 tons. The Washington Naval Treaty specified two (and only 2) aircraft carriers converted from Capital ship hulls and could not displace more than 33,000 tons. I have never found any evidence that ANYONE tried to follow the treaty.

    • @chungawunga9988
      @chungawunga9988 2 года назад +42

      Ya it would seem weird to me as to why they would want to follow these rules. It would make sense that an American would have to check the displacement on Japanese ships and vice versa but I’m sure that wasn’t going on.

    • @LumpusKrampus
      @LumpusKrampus 2 года назад +64

      Who would even be able to check once it's deployed? If all the design paperwork says it's 33K, then that's all she wrote.

    • @LostShipMate
      @LostShipMate 2 года назад +103

      The British did largely follow the Washington Naval treaty, which was odd, They were typically the first to break treaties.

    • @賴志偉-d7h
      @賴志偉-d7h 2 года назад

      It is okay when the US broke the rules.

    • @gastonjaillet9512
      @gastonjaillet9512 2 года назад +46

      The european nations overall largely respected the Treaty, surprisingly. That is until the late 1930s of course, when it became clear that Germany wasn't following any rules

  • @influxtv8047
    @influxtv8047 2 года назад +38

    Its actually nice to see to see the improvement in video quality from this channel over time 👍

    • @themudthedirtandthesand9079
      @themudthedirtandthesand9079 2 года назад +1

      The real problem with this channel is the pictures selected are highly generic, often of the wrong ships being talked about, or scenes of wrong battles being talked about. If you learn the Pacific War from credible books, as I did 50 years ago, it is easy to pick out lots of inaccuracies in the film selected here.

    • @markdexter6338
      @markdexter6338 2 года назад

      Unlike other try hard and trash channels.
      *"nUmBer SixTEen.."*

  • @bkjeong4302
    @bkjeong4302 2 года назад +175

    Honestly, it’s crazy how many aircraft the Japanese managed to fit on such a small and poorly designed carrier, even if most of the aircraft were older models than those found on their larger carriers.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 2 года назад +8

      @bruh
      Even with that it’s still insane just how packed this carrier was, especially as Japanese naval aircraft wing-folding mechanisms were not as compact as those of American aircraft.

    • @erichvonmanstein6876
      @erichvonmanstein6876 2 года назад +1

      @Fred brandon yup, but who had those? That would be just stupid 🤷

    • @dimasakbar7668
      @dimasakbar7668 2 года назад +7

      @Fred brandon source? Afaik A6M2 zero had all metal construction ( thin and weak alumunium, but still not bamboo)

    • @timclaus8313
      @timclaus8313 2 года назад +2

      Plenty of the early carriers could carry more of the older biplanes than the monoplane fighters and attack aircraft used in WWI. The really large carriers that actually saw combat were all converted battlecruisers.

  • @MooreFishing-ky3wq
    @MooreFishing-ky3wq 2 года назад +27

    I love how the carrier turned into the USS Wasp , Hornet , and Yorktown as it was sinking .

    • @oldesertguy9616
      @oldesertguy9616 2 года назад +7

      Not to mention SBD's and TBF's turning into B-25's.

    • @garfieldsmith332
      @garfieldsmith332 2 года назад +6

      And HMS Barham as the USS Pope exploding. And Ronald Regan making an uncredited cameo appearance.

    • @ut000bs
      @ut000bs 2 года назад +2

      Do you have video of Ryujo and Pope sinking he could have used?
      No?

    • @garfieldsmith332
      @garfieldsmith332 2 года назад +4

      @@ut000bs Ah yes in HD colour and in 3D. And from both sides in the war. Everyone was making a slight joke on the issue. The HMS Barham clip has been used in countless videos and even movies. So have the films of the US Carriers. What most people mean is it probably be better to show stills or other Japanese film clips of other ships instead of inserting clips that many people all ready know about and have seen. Real footage is scarce but stills or reusing actual footage would be better.

    • @ut000bs
      @ut000bs 2 года назад +2

      @@garfieldsmith332 I was making a joke, too. I have also mention the "stock" footage of HMS Barham and others in other videos.
      My favorites are the shots of Japanese carriers heading to Pearl Harbor while being sunk at the Battle of the Philippine Sea and Cape Engano among _many_ others. I noticed he used those shots here, too. 👍‍🖖‍

  • @rickmcdonald1557
    @rickmcdonald1557 2 года назад +3

    As a Sailor in Vietnam I really enjoy these videos and the narrator does an excellent job telling the stories. Thanks~!!

    • @nickhall8319
      @nickhall8319 2 года назад +1

      Even the pronunciation of forecastle? Like nails on a chalkboard.

  • @jayusn-et2231
    @jayusn-et2231 2 года назад +2

    Usually I watch your videos on my TV where I can only give a "thumbs up" with no ability to comment.
    Today I watched on my desktop while eating my lunch, so I just wanted to take the time to let you know I appreciate the effort you put into your videos.
    I truly appreciate that you actually narrate your videos instead of using a horrible CG voice.
    That you don't use stock video with only music and no information for a significant portion of your video.
    That your information is thoroughly researched and you don't use opinion, just historical facts.
    That you welcome viewer comments, but don't beg for our uneducated opinions by asking questions like "What do you think?"
    Your multiple "Dark" channels are some of the few "Historical(?)" channels that actually present factual history and I want you to know I appreciate your effort.
    All the Best.
    e

  • @Straswa
    @Straswa 2 года назад +5

    Great vid Dark Seas! The Ryujo is my favorite Japanese carrier, such a unique design and history.

  • @garykubodera9528
    @garykubodera9528 2 года назад +62

    Interesting episode of this aircraft carrier. I never knew the background on it but it's intresting the Japanese had the insight and used the treaty to thier advantage when building this ship. One of the many Japanese and other WWII ships in World of Warships-on of the few on-line games I actually enjoy playing. Keep up the great work! 😃

    • @seanlavelle344
      @seanlavelle344 2 года назад +1

      They also used a loop hole to create the battle ship Yamato which was the biggest in history to by pass the limited numbers a nation could have.

    • @nimay13
      @nimay13 2 года назад +6

      Another loophole is the Mogami class. She’s basically a heavy cruiser, but with treaty specifies that anything below 203mm gun is considered as a light cruiser they managed to built her as such.
      Later they retrofit her with 203mm. Lol.
      Come to modern day, they did the same stuff again. Now with “Helicopter Destroyer” Izumo class. Japan are banned from making Carriers post WW2, so they built this Helicopter Destroyer WITH the ability to convert it to accept VTOL aircraft.
      Now they have an essentially a carrier with F35-Bs.

    • @keepthechange2811
      @keepthechange2811 2 года назад +1

      I play blitz. I've almost all the IJN boats

    • @mikemccolum5832
      @mikemccolum5832 2 года назад

      World of paper ships

    • @navyreviewer
      @navyreviewer 2 года назад +4

      @@seanlavelle344 Yamato was not limited by any treaty. The Washington and first London treaties expired Dec 31rst 1935. She was started after that. She would have violated the 2nd London treaty but Japan didnt sign that treaty.

  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick5001 2 года назад +1

    That looks like the guy transporting his SUV with half of it hanging out the back of his UHAUL.

  • @3865ron
    @3865ron 2 года назад +3

    Narration has gotten better lately. Sounds good.

  • @something7239
    @something7239 Год назад +1

    "Illegal aircraft carrier" just sounds so awesome.

  • @SeeLasSee
    @SeeLasSee 2 года назад +5

    I watched this video just because the ship was so funny looking in the thumbnail.

  • @8088I
    @8088I Год назад +2

    Appears as Ryūjō
    served as Japan's
    loyal Kujo quite well.

  • @BlacktailDefense
    @BlacktailDefense 2 года назад +2

    It's been mentioned previously by other commenters, but the US Navy attempted a similar scheme in the CV-7 Wasp, which attempted to use 15,000 tons leftover from the London Naval Treaty's allowance to the US. It would have been a decent Light Carrier with a single hangar deck, but the Navy decided they wanted it to carry *all* the airplanes, and crammed two hangar decks and as much of a 33,000-ton Yorktown class Carrier's air wing as possible into a 15,000-ton ship. The resulting ship had dangerous topweight, armor barely thicker than the hull plating (and not even used at all in the some of the areas that all other US Fleet Carriers were armored), less fuel (and a steeply-reduced range as a result), two screws and steam turbines instead of four, a tepid AA battery, and no large-bore guns. Also, because only two screws and turbines were used, and the amount of tons-per-horsepower were much greater than in the other US Fleet Carriers, the Wasp only made 28kts, not the 30kts+ standardized in the Lexington, Yorktown, and Essex classes, making the Wasp to slow to be interoperable with them.
    For these reasons the US Navy tried to keep the Wasp as far from the action as possible, and initially used her only to ferry aircraft in the Atlantic early in the war, before Carrier losses forced them to redeploy her to the Pacific. There the Wasp met her end in her first contact with the enemy, when two torpedoes struck her, taking much of her crew and aircraft to the bottom of the sea with her. Contrast that with the horrific punishment the Saratoga, Enterprise, and the Essex class endured throughout the war, and kept fighting.

  • @nathanielmoore87
    @nathanielmoore87 2 года назад +18

    I love the videos you do!! Keep up the good work. Also, at the risk of sounding like the grammar police, forecastle is pronounced "fōk-sul". Why? I don't know. It's just a Navy thing. Every Sailor I know says it that way. 🤷‍♂️

    • @proud_tobe_texan2890
      @proud_tobe_texan2890 2 года назад +1

      He has a bot talking for him

    • @jeffreybarton3014
      @jeffreybarton3014 2 года назад

      @@proud_tobe_texan2890 damn had this old Navy vet fooled. Bots can't reproduce centuries old navy slang

    • @jeffreybarton3014
      @jeffreybarton3014 2 года назад

      @@proud_tobe_texan2890 I'm just not sure. I'm always on here and I can usually spot a bot. They just aren't this good yet. I can hear dudes lips moving

    • @vincere_
      @vincere_ 2 года назад

      @@jeffreybarton3014 Dark Seas' narrator is a real guy, that's for sure. There are suspicious fake investor advice and other financial services ads running on youtube right now, they sound like they're using AI generated voicefakes if you listen carefully. At first they sound like a real person, but you can hear the inconsistencies and technical issues.

    • @godwhymenowman
      @godwhymenowman 2 года назад +4

      @@jeffreybarton3014 it's His real normal voice used just words and info from Wikipedia

  • @allenatkins2263
    @allenatkins2263 2 года назад +8

    "The Prancing Dragon", sounds like a Carnival Cruise ship.

    • @justadildeau
      @justadildeau 2 года назад +1

      It is also a kama sutra move. 9/10

    • @easyalpha1
      @easyalpha1 2 года назад

      Looks hypnotic….yet deadly.

  • @diggernator
    @diggernator 2 года назад +11

    If there's a loophole to be exploited, then it is not "illegal" or "outlawed", may be 'contrary' to the spirit of the treaty but that's it...

    • @dosidicusgigas1376
      @dosidicusgigas1376 2 года назад +3

      - laughs in pocket battleship -

    • @diggernator
      @diggernator 2 года назад +1

      @@dosidicusgigas1376 Exactly, a very good example

  • @fooman2108
    @fooman2108 2 года назад +2

    One of the best accounts of a major warship sinking in action was chronicled in "Destroyer Captain" by Chiuchi Hara who was commanding Amatsukaze... He was also commanded Shigure and this ship survived 6 major surface engagements without taking a casualty!

    • @sean270wn3
      @sean270wn3 2 года назад

      Tameichi hara

    • @fooman2108
      @fooman2108 2 года назад +2

      @@sean270wn3 TY miss-remembered still a hell of a read. One of the classiest things that I have ever heard of is JFK inviting Capt. Hara to the White House while he was president.....basically forgiving him for ramming the 109.

    • @sean270wn3
      @sean270wn3 2 года назад

      @@fooman2108 he also had the captin of the amigiri at his inauguration. Hara was in shigure at the back of the pack when 109 was rammed

  • @andrewmalinowski6673
    @andrewmalinowski6673 Год назад +9

    This makes me appreciate the Japanese carrier more, especially as this details it's unique place in WWII history. Seeing a model it had seemed more like it was originally designed as a carrier with the intent to convert it into an aircraft carrier

  • @paulyiustravelogue
    @paulyiustravelogue 2 года назад +13

    Like you have mentioned, she was only purpose built in her class. After the war broke out, the Japanese enlisted at least three passenger ocean liners, and transformed them into the Taiyo class escort aircraft’s carriers.

    • @armorer94
      @armorer94 2 года назад +3

      We did the same with merchant hulls for our jeep carriers.

  • @redginge4840
    @redginge4840 Год назад +1

    A quality documentary, and surprisingly unbiased.

  • @lordsiomai
    @lordsiomai 2 года назад +24

    I personally find it amazing how a naval vessel like this were able to survive for this long considering it had a long list of issues from the start.

    • @kanyesouth523
      @kanyesouth523 2 года назад +1

      I agree, before this video i didn’t really know the story but at the beginning i was saying to myself “wtf were they thinking with that design??”

  • @sandalphoncpu
    @sandalphoncpu 2 года назад +3

    Military regulations are like F1 regulations. They’re very restrictive, but they always don’t work as intended in front of talented engineers

  • @cruzcontrol1504
    @cruzcontrol1504 2 года назад +4

    Love ALL the Dark channels, your narrators voice is perfect, can listen for hours, and have...

  • @SpecJack15
    @SpecJack15 2 года назад +1

    Still like her form in KanColle. Best CVL for what she experienced.

  • @johnallenismynameandmusici2796
    @johnallenismynameandmusici2796 2 года назад +14

    Well, I have been in 100 knot winds at sea. It's obvious immediately to any sailor that this ship is top-heavy. Sometimes you get swells that are 10-20 feet high. This ship would roll over on its' port or starboard sides 90 degrees and then it would sink to the bottom. I remember the Japanese fleet was stuck in one really bad storm where they lost several ships. I guess the Ryujo wasn't there that day.

    • @robdyson4990
      @robdyson4990 2 года назад +1

      Post ww1 royal navy built at least one submarine which comprised a deck gun far too heavy for purpose
      Davy Jones captains one of them at least

    • @johnallenismynameandmusici2796
      @johnallenismynameandmusici2796 2 года назад +2

      @@robdyson4990 Yep. And I bet they didn't have a single submariner on the design team. I read that the General Electric Company (I think it was) built the main gun for all the new US tanks. The gun itself was so out of this world that they designed the whole tank around the gun rather than trying to fit it on an existing platform. That's the way good design should work. And of course they have to listen to the sailors or soldiers to understand what happens and how they use the product before they design it.

  • @jonathanrangel565
    @jonathanrangel565 2 года назад +9

    After 3 years of living in Sasebo, Japan if there is one thing I have seen the Japanese do extremely well its build large ships quickly.

  • @leroyholm9075
    @leroyholm9075 2 года назад

    Excdellent. More please. These are crucial history documentaries.

  • @killer.crayon
    @killer.crayon 2 года назад +4

    Under Washington Treaty, this ship is absolutely legal 😉

  • @robertguttman1487
    @robertguttman1487 2 года назад +4

    The Ryujo violated the laws, alright. However, the laws she violated were the laws of physics. They tried to accomplish too much with too small a hull. However, the Japanese were not alone in that. The U.S. tried the same thing with the USS Ranger. That was why the Ranger was never deployed to the Pacific, but spent all of WW-II in the Atlantic.

  • @g.t.richardson6311
    @g.t.richardson6311 2 года назад +6

    Other well written publications have called them a shadow fleet.
    They built a number of merchant vessels that could be converted to light carriers as war approached. They were basically underpowered, too slow, air group too small, to operate as front line or fleet carriers. Some had a serviceable life, with drawbacks, some were failures.

    • @g.t.richardson6311
      @g.t.richardson6311 2 года назад +4

      I take back above, this was a legit light carrier, confused it with another.
      It clearly still had many problems, and probably shouldn’t have been a front line unit, but was somewhat successful

  • @masaharumorimoto4761
    @masaharumorimoto4761 2 года назад +2

    Sweet episode!!!!! thanks dude!

  • @toptiergaming6900
    @toptiergaming6900 2 года назад +2

    This is actually one of my favorite ships in world of warships

    • @rikk319
      @rikk319 2 года назад +2

      I've put the most hours in operations with the Ryujo, love that ship.

  • @briankorbelik2873
    @briankorbelik2873 8 месяцев назад

    She earned her rightful place in naval history. Sitting on the floor of the Pacific Ocean, sent there by the air group of the USS Saratoga, CV-3.

  • @ralfhtg1056
    @ralfhtg1056 2 года назад +3

    From 8:10 to 8:15 this shows the xplosion of the HMS Barham in November 1941 after being torpedoed by German U331 in the mediterranean and has thus nothing to do with the subject of the video.

  • @johnnybahngload1673
    @johnnybahngload1673 Год назад

    It helps to keep my basement smelling fresher. Between the 2 dehumidifiers and this air purifier that I keep running all the time during the summer, the quality of the basement air seems healthier.

  • @neves5083
    @neves5083 2 года назад +3

    Amazing as always

  • @dashot8334
    @dashot8334 Год назад

    seeing this carrier in war gives the chills but same time impressive.

  • @BlindMansRevenge2002
    @BlindMansRevenge2002 2 года назад +8

    Pretty impressive but, I think the Japanese were much more clever when they unmounted and stored the 14 inch guns for the Congo class in warehouses maintain them during the interwar period and simply drop them back in the Barbetts when World War II was about to get underway. Even more clever was how the battleships Yamato and Musashi were constructed in an enclosure that was not viewable by the public.

  • @sebuls
    @sebuls Год назад +1

    The concept of "loophole vessels" brings mind the Finnish Saukko submarine. If i remember correctly there was a treaty that banned submarines over some size and it was considered impossible to make submarines smaller than the size written on the paper, but you probably can already guess what happened. Worth a read.

    • @millionare5446
      @millionare5446 Год назад

      and then the japanese just put a guy into a torpedo

  • @therealuncleowen2588
    @therealuncleowen2588 2 года назад +3

    I just can't take anything this channel puts out seriously. The conspiratorial tone of everything just makes me roll my eyes. Anyone wishing to learn about WW2 warships should check out the vastly superior Drachinifel.

  • @stevedeleon8775
    @stevedeleon8775 2 года назад +2

    I now know where the Term "JAP SCRAP" came from referring to early Japanese products

  • @jeanhawken4482
    @jeanhawken4482 2 года назад +2

    Amazing the ship lasted as long as it did.

  • @johngeverett
    @johngeverett 2 года назад +3

    "A 'flock' of B-17s . . ."
    Really??

  • @apparatchiktgru8481
    @apparatchiktgru8481 2 года назад +1

    This carrier was sunk in record time.

  • @Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section
    @Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section Год назад +1

    For me it is still unbelievable, over what long period of time aircraft carriers were built with only one straight flight deck. So that a pilot who fails to land crashes into the aircraft parked in front of him instead of being able to fly through.

  • @jonsouth1545
    @jonsouth1545 2 года назад +13

    Again a very poorly researched Video Ryujo was by no means illegal under any of the Treaties she took advantage of a loophole in the Washington Treaty that stated that an Aircraft Carrier did not count towards tonnage if it was less than 10,000 tons Standard displacement in displacement Ryujo was 8000 tons at standard. This loophole had been deliberately placed in the treaty by the signatories so that experimental early carriers like HMS Argus and USS Langley would not count against the treaty tonnage and because the UK and the US were especially keen on having light carriers for Trade protection (the UK Used Hermes extensively for anti-piracy work in the Interwar years) However during the period Congress was not willing to give the funds and the UK was also massively restricting spending. This loophole was not closed until Article 3 of the London Treaty and since Ryujo was significantly advanced in her construction before the change happened the Japanese Government was given a special allowance to complete the vessel.

  • @janiceduke1205
    @janiceduke1205 2 года назад +1

    Ryujo (Prancing Dragon) was planned as a light carrier of around 8,000 metric tons (7,900 long tons) standard displacement to exploit a loophole in the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922 that carriers under 10,000 long tons (10,000 t) standard displacement were not regarded as "aircraft carriers". While was under construction, Article Three of the London Naval Treaty of 1930 closed the above-mentioned loophole; consequently, was the only light aircraft carrier of her type to be completed by Japan.

  • @geralddaly5864
    @geralddaly5864 2 года назад +11

    the british had the first light carrier in invincable light cruiser of ww1 not a full carrier so they could have converted her and her sister ships into full light carriers under 10,000 that is why the clause was in there

    • @godwhymenowman
      @godwhymenowman 2 года назад +1

      Also the first to invent and use Concentration camps

    • @grahvis
      @grahvis 2 года назад +5

      @@godwhymenowman .
      What does that have to do with the subject?

    • @geralddaly5864
      @geralddaly5864 2 года назад +1

      so were the british thinking of converting the vindictive and her sisters into light carriers so had it inserted into the pact to allow them to build as many little carriers as they liked

  • @matchesburn
    @matchesburn 2 года назад

    4:29 - When the "balloon" that opens during the christening is more impressive than the ship itself.

  • @hudsonball4702
    @hudsonball4702 Год назад +1

    Ryujo was also the aircraft carrier that "gave" the Americans a Zero fighter to study and subsequently design and build the Hellcat by.

  • @VashStarwind
    @VashStarwind 2 года назад +3

    Love these docs. I would love to see more submarine videos. Those are some of my favorite.

  • @thewalruscorporation5364
    @thewalruscorporation5364 2 года назад +1

    Missed the opportunity to call this channel “Dark Docks”

  • @jamesbarca7229
    @jamesbarca7229 2 года назад +1

    It's funny how they mixed footage of Reagan's training films in with the combat footage a few times (such as at 10:17).

  • @preed5270
    @preed5270 2 года назад +4

    I like the information in these videos however the incessant use of film of other ships, aircraft, and events other than of this particular carrier is a little dishonest. I know it is supposed to add to the interest but not to everyone.

    • @dave8599
      @dave8599 2 года назад

      Id hardly call it dishonest. Given the extremely few images or movie of this carrier that exist, you'd be staring at the same image for a minute or more.
      The filler material is very nice, I like it, you may not, but it is NOT dishonest.

    • @preed5270
      @preed5270 2 года назад +1

      @@dave8599 ... Thanks for your perspective but I'll stand by mine: adding false images for interest, or for example, does not outweigh showing accurate history. If you don't have a picture of a eagle, don't show a condor; if you don't have photo of a Japanese carrier exploding don't show me a British battleship is all I'm saying. Should be fair enough in a mini-documentary.

  • @savagex466-qt1io
    @savagex466-qt1io 2 года назад +1

    Japan really shot ahead. They went from like liveing in the country not getting along to all united and a super power in 60 years.

  • @williamowings6857
    @williamowings6857 2 года назад +5

    I think that's why they have helicopter carriers now for their defense forces.

    • @kevinbernhardt8085
      @kevinbernhardt8085 2 года назад +3

      The new ships are not helicopter carriers , but are large helicopter carrying destroyers

  • @kumo7537
    @kumo7537 2 года назад

    素晴らしい映像。
    日本に居てもこれ程のものは見つかりません。
    ありがとう!

  • @peterkantor9494
    @peterkantor9494 2 года назад

    Ryujo is so small and cute, I love it!

  • @scottscouter1065
    @scottscouter1065 2 года назад +142

    FOR THE LOVE OF ALL OUR SANITY...please have photographs or film which is relevant to the narration. Showing another ship while discussing what Ryūjō is doing is an insult to your viewer intelligence. There may not be enough film footage to fill the video, BUT good stills and technical line drawings are far preferable to this nonsense.

    • @grahamgrigsby4641
      @grahamgrigsby4641 Год назад +17

      The dark channels are all content farms my dude.

    • @Ashigaraa
      @Ashigaraa Год назад +6

      How are they supposed to get enough photographs for a full video dude? You can try to find them yourself, theres so little pictures of back then

    • @forrestreed9350
      @forrestreed9350 Год назад +4

      I mean....man's gotta point..I mean the guy did enough research on the ship to write a script about it, guess it's too much to research for design prints, recon photos, diving photos (if she's divable idk)

    • @jima4101
      @jima4101 Год назад

      Lol

    • @jerrymccrae7202
      @jerrymccrae7202 Год назад +1

      There are some tech. Drawings.

  • @avoughtf4u-4corsair19
    @avoughtf4u-4corsair19 2 года назад

    Such amazing history for a cute little flat top.

  • @phlanjo
    @phlanjo 2 года назад

    Your narration is getting better and better, great job

  • @timheersma4708
    @timheersma4708 2 года назад +5

    i find it surprising that other nations didn't attempt to improve the design and create something like it

    • @youwanttoliveforever
      @youwanttoliveforever 2 года назад +8

      I'm not. It's poor seakeeping would have made it not worth it for UK+US. It's speed and limited armor makes it worthless for French and Italian navies.
      There is no reasonable way to add those qualities to a ship under the tonnage limit.

    • @basztiancooper
      @basztiancooper 2 года назад

      where do you think the litoral class came from .

  • @Jeffersondavis1861
    @Jeffersondavis1861 Год назад

    Nobody is giving credit to this man's voice...????...i love that talking styles...🔥🔥🇧🇩🇯🇵

  • @geoffgeoff143
    @geoffgeoff143 2 года назад +2

    Looks like an indonessian cart going down the road.

  • @NVRAMboi
    @NVRAMboi 11 месяцев назад

    "Hey, uh.....does she look a little top-heavy to you?"
    "It'll be fine."

  • @mawasorangutan
    @mawasorangutan 2 года назад +2

    IJN CV always look exotic though it's bad in term of efficiency and safety, as placing flattop way above main deck means top heavy and difficult to control in high seas

  • @kennyj4366
    @kennyj4366 2 года назад

    I loved those shots of Reagan from training films from the early 1940's.
    Thank you for the interesting video.

  • @FloozieOne
    @FloozieOne Год назад +2

    What a brave little ship. She travelled extensively, was involved in many battles and provided a moral boost to not only her crew but the crews of other ships that worked with her. Plucky little ship, rest well on the ocean floor you did far more than your diminutive size could have foretold.

  • @garydouglas9413
    @garydouglas9413 2 года назад +3

    A good example of why arms control treaties have never accomplished anything.

  • @lanceslyd4865
    @lanceslyd4865 2 года назад +2

    An Outlaw Vessel "AKA Almost pirate carrier vessel"

  • @olorin1710
    @olorin1710 2 года назад +6

    It is difficult for me to understand what the narrator is saying. Is conflating moder tech with old analog To get the cadence. Sounds off. If his music background sounds scratchy . It would make more sense. Instead Comes off like a poor imitation of Ben Shapiro

  • @donmarlon5924
    @donmarlon5924 2 года назад

    A fascinating retelling of a little-known but important story. Thanks for posting this.

  • @dkerr4077
    @dkerr4077 2 года назад

    I really enjoy your videos. Especially the way you find obscure information that is interesting, and holds my attention.

  • @anthonycaruso8443
    @anthonycaruso8443 Год назад

    My Dad flew in an Avenger.He tried to enlist under age,but my 3 uncles got his butt to the enlisting station.He then waited till he was of age.

  • @TEA-fj3ut
    @TEA-fj3ut 2 года назад

    Looks like Ronald Regan @ 10:19. The outtake fits the video since he played Hellcats of the Navy. 😊

  • @Vladimir-Putin-
    @Vladimir-Putin- 2 года назад +20

    It’s not illegal unless someone sees you do it. No one SAW ME invade Ukraine

    • @assortedlunatics4381
      @assortedlunatics4381 2 года назад +7

      You mean special operation

    • @HubertofLiege
      @HubertofLiege 2 года назад +1

      Wishing you a Happy Ukrainian mistake day tomorrow

    • @Vladimir-Putin-
      @Vladimir-Putin- 2 года назад +1

      @@HubertofLiege wishing you a happy EMA day after you catch this nuke

    • @CyBerCat6410
      @CyBerCat6410 2 года назад

      Invade? But Putin the TV said the Wussians were SAVING Ukraine!

  • @electricmatusita4
    @electricmatusita4 2 года назад

    凄い!驚きました。戦時中私の祖父はこの船に乗っていて、対空機銃か何かの担当で戦闘中に被弾し片方の肺をなくしました。今でも龍城の写真が家に残ってます。

  • @daniell1483
    @daniell1483 2 года назад +2

    WW2 from Japan's perspective sounds so strange and yet so interesting. It would be the end of an era. All my life Japan has been spoken of in friendly terms as a US ally, the idea that we once were foes is strange, alien. For a short time, Japan carved out an empire for itself and I can only imagine the way they felt about that. Strange, but fascinating.

    • @heritageimaging7768
      @heritageimaging7768 2 года назад +2

      People have no idea of the depravity of their Empire. They got off very easy at the war's end, the few war criminals that were located and tried were mostly released from prisons later.

    • @Frankie2012channel
      @Frankie2012channel 2 года назад +1

      WW1 was the catalyst for WW2. The Japanese were part of the ALLIES in the first world war. The 'white' powers completely ignored them, didn't even acknowledge their diplomats at the post war negotiations, and basically insulted them and restricted THEIR navy, even though they were allies with America and Britain at the time. They were treated so shabbily by the Americans and Brits after World War ONE that I'm not surprised that they turned militaristic and wanted to expand their own empire. If the Western nations at the time were not so racist against 'non white' nations, we could have avoided the Second World War (in the Pacific). There is even arguments that the shabby treatment that the 'winners' of World War one gave to the Germans, gave rise to Hitler, which I tend to agree with. You can't shit on the world forever. Some nations will embrace their 'extreme' voices and start to fight back.

    • @daniell1483
      @daniell1483 2 года назад

      @@Frankie2012channel Even the video points out that it was a multinational agreement to restrict the naval arms race, not to "keep Japan down". And let's not pretend Japan didn't get what they wanted out of WWI. I do agree that the flame of WW2 was born in the ashes of WW1, but wasn't unique to Japan. The reparations led to the rise of ultranationalists in Europe while the ultranationalist had already arisen during the Meiji Restoration. The measures taken at the end of WW2 such as the Marshall Plan, de-Nazification, and the Establishment of the UN were all done in order to pave the way to a more peaceful and just post-war world.

    • @vamwolf
      @vamwolf 2 года назад

      @@heritageimaging7768 your correct. I rarely see this type of comment

    • @iClone101
      @iClone101 Год назад

      @@heritageimaging7768 Exactly. The Japanese committed as many crimes as the Nazis did. The difference is that the Germany openly acknowledge the crimes that occurred during WWII, white Japan (and the US as well) tried much harder to hide what went down. The importance of pride in Japanese culture means that the atrocities committed by them isn't mentioned in their history books, and the US doesn't care because it also hides the injustices that directly resulted from US decisions. Unit 731 was a human experimentation lab used on the Chinese during WWII, and at the end of the war, rather than sentence them for their crimes like what happened with the Germans, the US gave the Japanese experimenters criminal immunity in exchange for handing over their research data to the Americans. Most of the individuals directly responsible for the torture and murder of unknown quantities of Chinese people (estimated in the hundreds of thousands) lived free lives and died of old age having never been punished, with some of them even taking positions of power in the Japanese government.

  • @djkillerxvz7030
    @djkillerxvz7030 2 года назад +1

    Was extremely interested in this ship and its history ever since I got my hands on it in WoWs but couldn't find much info, it was all just scrambled bits of sources, thank you for the video

  • @fsj197811
    @fsj197811 Год назад

    All things considered, I'd say that little carrier did very well.

  • @MGB-learning
    @MGB-learning Год назад +1

    Great video

  • @nimay13
    @nimay13 2 года назад +1

    The Prancing Dragon sounds like a tavern in Baldurs Gate.

  • @chrisby777
    @chrisby777 2 года назад

    Many thanks for your obvious hard work in researching this material. I’ve seen quite a few of your videos and find them very interesting. Liked and subbed.

  • @edg8535
    @edg8535 2 года назад +1

    No bias was held back.

  • @benjaminrush4443
    @benjaminrush4443 2 года назад

    Excellent documentary as usual. Thanks.

  • @lotsofthisandthat9791
    @lotsofthisandthat9791 2 года назад +1

    The Japanese should re build The Imperial Japanese Navy to include 3 carrier battle groups to counter the CHICOMS. They should do without delay.

  • @Rocketsong
    @Rocketsong 2 года назад +2

    To be fair, EVERYBODY cheated on the treaty in one way or another. The Lexington and Saratoga were over-weight, but the US claimed they met the treaty due to a creative interpretation of adding defenses, the Brits claimed their water filled torpedo defenses didn't count because it was really "drinking water", and designed ships they could add armor to later, and the Italians just kind of lied about how big some of their ships were.

    • @alexcunningham2037
      @alexcunningham2037 2 года назад

      Don't forget the south Dakota class were weighed half loaded

  • @allgood6760
    @allgood6760 Год назад

    Thank you 👍

  • @stevecastro1325
    @stevecastro1325 2 года назад

    Excellent narration and very good detail on what is a little understood portion of Japanese action in the Pacific.