LINES OF LOCOMOTIVES - Stored Engines in Thomaston, GA
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Sleeping giants, static steel stallions, isolated iron horses - whatever you want to call them, these locomotives are not out on the mainline pulling trains. Instead, they're being stored in Thomaston, Georgia, awaiting their fate.
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Even as an adult who knows trains are always on "Private Property", there is always an Urge to climb aboard.
I always thought that was an obligation.
Ngl ive done it
Lol
I’ve actually tried firing up one of these😂😂😂😂
Railroads who store locomotives long-term, often remove the horn off of the roof so that they are not stolen. In some cases they’re put inside the cab in other cases they’re put in the housing of the locomotive next to the air compressor. I know that UP Will store them in a railside box car or warehouse.
Why would someone steal a train horn?
@@Ormodius3751 To put it on their car and scare the living shit out of people.
It makes more sense to buy one rather than steal it, especially if that horn will be given to a more modern unit
@@NERRP2017 Railfan and horn collectors find the horns that actually came off of a locomotive to be more desirable. To say that this horn came off of NS 2739 or KCS 3939 gives it history, actual railroading history. And the owner would be able to point at the horns in pictures of the units in service and say "there is MY horn".
@@espeescotty that is true but not everywhere you can get it right of a loco without getting caught which is why I’d prefer to buy one as it’s a bit more legal
The KCS Southern Belle paint scheme is one of my favorite paint schemes along with the Santa Fe Warbonnet paint schemes on their old Dash units
These has been stored for a while, they were first parked in Barnesville Ga before being moved to Thomaston Ga🚂🚂 People steals these horns so they remove the horns…. Great video thank you!!!!
Yep NS drops them off for CPR to pickup. CPR's lone Geep has to move them in blocks due to the sheer dead weight.
Many times I saw those MACs in México and they were amazing...
Great video! I've heard that the MACs may return to KCS rails after a maximum of 3 years after the CP-KCS merger is complete, but that may not happen. As for the M-2s, several may end up being sold off to smaller lines, a few have already been delivered to the New Brunswick Southern.
Some of the MAC's were sold, like thee 3941 that was sold to SSRX.
They might be re build to have ac traction motors
I do know that over the summer metra rail in Chicago approved the purchase of used engines to replace it's older engines and to increase its engines on hand. Hope this is where they are going
Makes complete sense. Progress Rail aka old EMD in LaGrange IL supposedly doing the retrofitting
I think the reason why there is no horns on the locomotives because they don't want the horns being stolen off of the engines
Yep, popular target for thieves.
I Agree 100% that the KCS Red/Yellow/Black Color Design was the Most Attractive ever painted. 👍
Wow What A Sight!! I agree Southern Belle paint is one of the best! Great Video! Thanks..
Awesome job Charlie. I hope to visit down there soon. The MAC’s & the M-2’s are both some of my favorite models. Keep up the awesome work.
Where down there are these at ?
@@douglasvillerailfan3994, down at Thomaston, GA. Charlie said the town was about 65 miles south of Atlanta.
I know that lol i meant where in thomaston lol
@@douglasvillerailfan3994, I really do not know.
@@douglasvillerailfan3994 Drive down through Thomaston with a sharp eye & You won't miss them especially in the Winter. Just DO NOT Trespass as Charlie said. This is all past the live customers down at the end of the line essentially.
I used to drive to work along the KCS line thru north Dallas back in the 90s. I found it interesting that the first Southern Belle schemes I saw were I believe SD 45s or something. The SD70s were still grey ghosts at the time. I caught a TFM loco once and had to hunt one down in HO scale. I guess KCS started rebuilds of the 45s before the 70s.
Those poor SD70's. I hope they get new life. Awesome video btw
Thanks!
I noticed them a few weeks ago driving thru there. I didn't have the time to stop by.
Great story...we would pass through Thomaston to visit our grandkids. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
visit us jerry
(not ur grand kids, the entire city of thomaston)
Another legendary well done I saw a bunch of them out in the desert in Arizona great video by carpetbagger
The Southern Belle Has To Be In My Top 2 Favorite Locomotive Paint Jobs
The majority of the SD70M-2s are billed for scrap. A few are still in the process of being sold or trying to be sold. As for the MACs, a few are set to return to KCS at some point while the rest will remain on PRLX for their SD70MAC-H rebuilds for metra or scrapped. KCS has already got back some of their old MACs as well, and spray painted the KCS lettering on the hood of their own locos.
This reminds me of the Iowa Traction RR in Mason City. Union Pacific pays them to store rolling stock on the old trolley lines
A lot of short lines make a good fraction of their money storing cars.
Just wow those engines very cool
Love this, it very cool to see all of these EMD beast here but it is always a sad time for railfaning seeing a locomotive that you grew up with just vanishing from the rails it gonna be a sad day when the ACe, Gevos and other tier 2-3 locomotive go away, and then you got the p42 coming up in there last year's so hopefully the futures bright
It sucks i love these engines
@@richharris9489 but with Norfolk southern buying new SD70ACEs with T4 engine and ge still going strong these locomotives are gonna be hear for a long time :)
Jelly bean you know ge is part of wabtec right ?
@@richharris9489 yes of course
I work for ge in lynn Massachusetts. Aviation.
Thanks for a most informative video that offers both on the ground as well as aerial footage.
Thanks for watching!
I Never Knew That It Was Called The Southern Belle. But Seriously It Has To Be My Second If Not Most Favorite Livery Right Up There With FWWR’s Paint Scheme
Interesting story -- thanks
I caught the NS SD70M-2s #2754, and 2721 on NS 127 on May 2021, and it made me so sad to see them go, they were very powerful locomotives then but then PSR hit
Try riding in one, there pretty loud in the cab, and they ride like crap. They led to the SD70ACe, there better off being sold off and being stored than being used by NS.
They are junk. Better in a scrapyard.
@@cody8217 do you have a favorite locomotive
@@ejdsndnj yeah, the one that I'm not on when I'm on my rest day
@@cody8217 ok
I live in Griffin not too far from Thomaston and I never knew these were there. Great video!
Thanks!
Now i know where the trains were coming from! I could hear some off in the distance when traffic was low when i lived just south of Zebulon, GA. I never knew about the storage yard! UGh!
You're hearing CPR actually make their customer runs several times a week probably. They have at least 3 businesses still active down that line.
Cool and not so cool video at the same time, In my opinion I wished all the GE T3 & T4 units were sitting in storage instead. Thanks for documenting what's being stored.
I am a train 🚆and I approve this video!!!!
It’s pretty cool watching this because i live in barnesville and work in thomaston and I’ve passed and stopped and looked at them Engine before
Very informative. Good job.
Thanks!
I visited this spot yesterday. Most units had horns inside the cab and were placed either in the back behind the engineer’s seat or down in the nose. Some of the units were unlocked and we were able to sit in the engineer’s seat. Most of the numberboards for these units were either gone or broken, and some of the six-axle units’ windows were broken out. Some of the road switchers’ windows were broken out as well. Some units had graffiti, and other units actually had doors taken off and parts missing from the interior where the engine is. I’m assuming people sometimes take the metal from these locomotives and use it as scrap metal to get some extra cash, but who really knows. All I know is that these locomotives make for really neat photos.
Always been a fan of the KCS southern belle paint scheme and the Iowa interstate road pain scheme
It's too bad that you didn't get all the Locomotive numbers before their hauled off to their new destination. I'm a Model Railroader, & have a lot of SSW, SP, SPSF, D&RGW, BNSF, & many more... I look for accuracy, & that every locomotive & car, are authentic, on my lines, but I do have a few that are fantasy ("What if it did happen!" types & If only types!) So if you could, when going out & seeing these Locomotives that are stored, some of us would love to have the road numbers, for us whom are handicapped, & can't go anywhere 😔! Thank you for your videos, as I am a rail fan, & I like, & love trains. If you see an SSW, D&RGW, or SP... It was all owned by Southern Pacific Lines before it's merger in 1996! They're a rare Gem to find out there! I appreciate your videos. Gives me something to watch!
I'm sure most people that visit train channels are aware, but for those that aren't:
PRLX is basically a "used car dealer" for locos (they may have other rolling stock too, but I am not aware of any offhand).
They do sales, leasing and parting out.
They do not have a livery of their own so it's not uncommon to see a loco in factory paint with the name and reporting marks painted over and the PRLX mark spray painted on the side.
It's a little crude, but hey it's cheap.
PRLX actually did have a paint scheme of their own...
It was used on the SD70AH-T4's demonstrators several years ago while they were being leased out to KCS.They used a nice livery on some worthless units that were based on already failed units...
@@Slim_Slid That's awesome, not sure I have ever seen it, will have to look that up!
This is awesome ! I live north of Thomaston in Barnesville, Ga . I came down & took a quick video, & then found your RUclips . Thank you for this !
Thanks for watching!
Nice shots. Don't get to see much power in storage up north here.
Awesome! Keep up the great work
Thanks!
So cool but at the same time, so sad… hoping something can happen to have most of these back in the rails!
Wow this is cool I think the SD70-2 NS units are gonna be rebuilt to the New NS SD70ACEs coming soon 1225 - 1234
No, those are new built units coming from Muncie. They were actually built in 2019 but nobody took them.
The KCS units I think were meant to be used as cores for the Metra SD70MAC rebuilds
@@mauricesmith8545 Spot on but that Metra plan has been on & off to my knowledge. One day someone will make up their minds. Some could be up there already.
Awesome video!
Thanks!
@@v12productions your welcome!
It’s sad to see this kind of thing. The UK has its fair share of loco storage yards (Crewe, Leicester, Loughborough) , where there’s lines and lines of Class 56/60 diesel-electrics from the 1970s/1980s displaced by the Class 66 in the late 90s. Crewe sidings also have a few Class 90 AC electric locos stored. In a sorry state, but stored.
I went past this last week. Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching!
Miss seeing those KCS MACs roaming around my area. Especially the ghosts.
I live out here in Barnesville by the cpr tracks I never knew these were abandoned out here kinda want to go see them
The hartwell also has a bunch of older power going back to the mid 50s
I'll probably do a video about that soon.
Adam’s Auctions is based out of Belleville, IL, near St. Louis, MO. They also sell Real Estate, etc. 👍
Trains and real estate - an interesting mix lol
I live in Thomaston ga! I know exactly where these are!
Correction. All KCS MAC's were EX TFM except 3974 (Ex BNSF 8945) Which was traded from BNSF in exchange for one of their MAC's BNSF wrecked on their Rails, also only 75 were built, TFM 1600 -1674 which were built in London Ontario
KCS guy for sure
Buenas noches
Estás SD 70Macs De TFM fueron ensambladas en México en Cd. Sahagún HGO. Saludos.
@@omarhorcasitas6860 huh. I swore i saw a photo online of like 10 of em when new that came from London ON. I did find out TFM 1674 was wrecked or something, never did become KCS 3974
I own these SD70M-2's and SD70MACs in g scale versions at Mountain View Elementary Middle School in Union West Virginia.
Great video. I’ve already subscribed to your channel. But watching this made me double check. I love the 70MACs.
I really appreciate that! Thanks!
Sc/sd 70's are my favorite engine, Something about the body lines. I don't care for the fairings on the rest.
if the engines were missing their horns, it makes me wonder if some or all of the internal equipment we can't see has also been removed from them. Parts would last longer if kept in secure storage where thieves have a much harder time getting at them. While it's not often talked about, there are people who will steal valuable parts for their metal content. It's just a fact of life. Hopefully that's not happening here.
Nice and why does kcs not use them
They could be awaiting AC conversion by progress or rebuild by some other company but what do I know.
I'll bet you are right - given these are all EMD and all somewhat similar use units it could very well be a collection for rebuild. Could explain why all the horns have been pulled too.
@@wafflesnfalafel1 Unlikely PRLX loves to cut stuff up lol. Scrap prices are crazy right now. Just research the SD80MACs disposals.
@@wafflesnfalafel1, I’m surprised Norfolk Southern didn’t do it themselves at Juniata. They sure love rebuilding older locomotives and converting DC to AC
@@jordansewell8790, that’s also a possibility lol
Damn now there's another auction I'm gonna have to attend. Bring my suitcase full of money
There used to be a huge number of engines in Arizona but recent Google Earth images reveal the area to be free of any engines. At one time the line of engines was miles long totaling way more than 100 but they are all now gone.
The SD70M-2s are back in service on NS
The second I saw the 2600 series number on that EMD, I smiled ear-to-ear. There's still a chance for Eastern railfans to catch a pre-Raised Letter K5LLA.
Great Video! Well informative.
Thanks!
I think we should preserve the NS SD70M-2'S.
THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO SIR , Abdul Rashid WAZIRABAD PAKISTAN
Thanks for watching!
Stored or ditched? The terrible situation.
Oh so this is where those long lines of SD70M2s went.
Crazy that locos made in 06 are sitting but a lot of companies are still using sd40-2, gp38+40. Engines that are 2-3 times older then that
Nice job.
Most of these engines are not outfitted with PTC hardware and so they are at best B-units. They also fall below Tier 4 emissions compliance which means they are due for a rebuild before they can hit the road. So with all the work needed to update them it was cheaper to discard them at scrap value to Progress Rail who will likely convert them into the next Genset series of engines.
That’s only for new locomotives, older locomotives and trucks are grandfathered into compliance, most states only require tier 2 compliance so these units could still be used, but yes they lack PTC and cannot be used in territory with PTC
Those trains were here for a few months but have moved now.
might go there..
I'm surprised they don't rebuild those KCS SD70s. NS rebuilt some 2700s into the 1800s. Maybe they just rebuild enough to keep Progress Rail afloat.
Hell all I have to do is walk out my front door and see the things, the red yellow & black ones at least.
If it has PRLX, "do not fuel" on the fuel tank, and no horn, that's probably bad news.
i was up there not too long ago and we are pretty sure all the horns are stored in the cabs of the loco's.
It’s so strange watching railroads in 20 years literally storing dash 9 models, 70macs, etc. they barely feel used
It’s very likely too these locomotives are being stored awaiting disposition
I would think they are not 'stored'. They are a form of trash that a corporation doesn't want to deal with. I can imagine there might be an expense to getting rid of all these old locomotives. That expense is something for the future to deal with. For now, it is out of sight, out of mind. Tags left on some from their 'auction'? Does that mean they were sold for scrap to another company? If that company goes out of business the cleanup expense will become a public expense someday.
Just like the cotton mills
Abandoned
Aww they’re sleeping
Nice, great camera work! Any photos for people like me to use as a screensaver?
Kcs is a smaller rail company still going ... im a union pacific head... Norfolk southern operate up and down the east coast..80 percent of the their freight is coal..I'm a true train fan
Hi there, excellent video. I'm from Scotland and I'm really interested in North American Railroads. It seems all the big railroad companies seem to favour GE locos these days compared to EMD. Why is this?
Thanks! That's a really good question. I'm not 100% sure. I think it may come down to affordability and financing, but I'd want an expert to weigh in.
@@v12productions because GE's are leaps and bounds better. They are quieter, ride better, pull better and harder, have better electronic packages, etc. I hate when they stick me with anything EMD, and most of the engineers out here strongly dislike them. You can't even have a conversation in them, they are so loud. The only advantage is the EMD cabs have a little more room in them.
Whether KCS NS or PRLX I own these locomotives.
RIP locos
I also have a question: why do most of the units have "PRLX" on them, and why are some of the units (NS) the behind logo is blacked out?
Are some of these units leasers?
It’s a shame to see so many EMD loco’s not “making the cut”. Oh well…
I have no idea why KCS and NS would get rid of the locomotives, like dude, they shouldn’t be that old at all, and there’s not reason to retire them. Both of the railroad companies are making a huge and ginormous mistake.
They will steal the horns. These EMD Locomotives probably coming off there long term lease and KCS AND NS didn't want to renew the lease. Plus most large railroads prefer GE Locomotives especially the EVO'S. Even THE AC 4400's are going in to be rebuilt. I prefer EMD Locomotives, they are good pullers. I had two EMD SD70MAC for about 3 weeks on my transfer/ traveling switcher and had no problems with it pulling 140 car trains at 12000 tons.
I mean, GE or EMD, either one will pull anything at 12,000 tons on flat ground when your tonnage rating per locomotive is over 12,000 tons just in itself. EMD's can't compare to GE's on our grades of 2.5%+.
Private property? If you have a Bell and Howell on a tripod, you're a friendly wave.
CP Rail should buy some of the SD70MACs
Hard to tell between SD70M and SD70MAC? I always referred to the radiators
I can't believe they don't store them all running. 😁
In this case here I figured that they'd reuse all the good parts that were usable and scrap the rest of of it, anything that was good
I’m on central of GA
Retail price on Leslie and Nathan horns are $3,500 and up. They're easy to remove. Send a mechanic to do it before the thieves have a chance.
Very easy, we use to clean the diaphragms while sitting waiting on a train meet or a known delay…..nothing worst than a whistle that can’t blow its own nose…….ms~~~
Hola quería saber que paso con esas sd70mac de kcs si siguen hay o si las recuperado la nueva cpkc 👀
I wonder if cp plans on doing anything with those stored KCS engines. I know progress rail was doing the paint for the other rebuilt CP sd70s. Correct me if I’m wrong tho!
There's NS SD70M-2 #2707.
Are those trains are lost and found train?
If these locomotives have any life left in them, then may be they can be exported to Customers overseas.
UP has probably close to 200 engines setting here in Topeka. All of them look to be EMD.
Anyone know why?
A great report, thank you. I wonder, are there any cleaner burn power units that could be built into these locos and give them a new lease of life? British Rail descendents have several classes of long lived locos that have been repowered. 🇬🇧
If rebuilt/refurbished these wouldn't have to meet modern emissions standards, but whatever standard they were built to, or higher. The M-2's could probably be rebuilt as ACe's (same body, frame, and prime mover, but most of the electronics and electrical systems would have to be replaced). Several railways, including KCS, have rebuilt MAC's as MACe's (essentially new ACe's). These locomotives all have 710 series engines which in theory could be upgraded to EPA tier 2 or 3. The current tier 4 SD-70's have a completely different engine and are longer to make room for additional emission equipment, so a tier 4 rebuild doesn't seem likely.
PRLX are the leasing and financial arm of Progress Rail, who own EMD and are one of the companies who could do such rebuilds, so it's possible they plan to rebuild these locomotives then lease or resell them.