Mr pate Kevin Jennings is coming with his third year in a row with the same system this year he will have a left ankle that's strong. Heathrow for 3600 yards last year on one leg
Josh Miami played for the ACC title in 2017. They qualified another year as well. But held themselves out they thought there was going to be sanctions on them and were being proactive. I could not figure out what year that was. I think post 2010.
@whiskeyjim1741 I’m not a Miami fan. I don’t know everything there is to know about Miami. Either way, they did not qualify, as they did not play in the game. The “reason” is irrelevant. So OP is incorrect. You either make the title game or you don’t. Miami has only made it once.
You make good points about BYU. I just watched spring training. Bear didn't join until June last year and was learning on the job. Now he's had a full year to know the playbook so well he no longer has to think. You're bringing back LJ Martin at running back and he was the Big 12 offensive player of the year last year. That might be the best quarterback running back duo in the entire Big 12. They brought in some great transfers for the offensive line and the o-line coach said this is the best and deepest o-line he's had since he's been there for the last 3 years. They have some tight end transfers that were the outstanding duo of spring camp so you have to believe that the offense is going to be much improved over last year. The defense looks to at least be on par with last year which was pretty good. As I recall I think it was a top 20 defense. Their biggest game isn't even a conference game because they don't play Texas Tech. They seem to have Utah's number having won three in a row and Utah having new coaches and players could be making adjustments. No the biggest game is going to be that Notre Dame game and while no one gives them a chance to win, anyone who looks at their record at lavell Edwards stadium over the past couple of years, they're pretty darn difficult to beat. I would give them like a 30% or 35% chance to win that game. It's not a lock for Notre Dame in my opinion.
It’s 99%. BYU has 0 elite wins under Sitake when facing talent gaps smaller than what ND has on them. Not counting Utah because 1 there’s never a talent gap no matter what Utah is over ranked by and it’s a rivalry that defies rankings.
@Fooballsickodefinitely in years past when BYU was independent or in the mid-tier conferences, Notre Dame dominated them except for that one time in Notre Dame where they pulled out the upset. But that was a rarity. Now BYU has been in a power conference for a few years and has built up much more quality recruiting and depth at every position. They seem to be improving every year and while they were dominated by Texas Tech last year in other games they showed resiliency and the ability to pull out close games. I believe they are even better this year and that's why I give them a larger chance, I'll be at still small, to win the game. If you're truly at 99% then I guess you assume that Notre Dame will run all over them and win by at least three touchdowns? I think it will actually be a reasonably close game but yes even I, a huge BYU alumnus and fan for the past 50 years expect Notre Dame to win the game.
@Fooballsicko You need to define elite wins, because outside of ND's playoff run in 2024, ND doesn't have elite wins under Freeman. They have some wins over USC & the like who were ranked due to their logo, but not elite teams. ND's schedule is similar to BYU's & last season, lost to the only 2 elite teams they played, BYU lost to the only elite team they faced last year, twice. Last year, there was no difference between BYU and ND, other than Knute Rockne.
@RJjohnson2026 Sitake doesn’t have any wins over a well coached team that has a big talent gap on BYU. They have to catch the team when they are a mess, in a transition period. Most of the time, LSU, Oregon, Texas, Texas Tech, they’ve gotten blown out. 99% to win. Could be by 1 point could be by 50. BYU is somewhat better this year. But Tech got even better than BYU did in the offseason and ND is and entire gap ahead of where Tech is.
@raleighsanford5111 In Sitakes run they’ve only ever beat high talent teams when those programs were a mess, coaching transition. Also. Another interesting thing. Coaches that have been at a place 10+ years but never made a playoff, BCS, won a natty almost 100% never do with that program.
The ACC is more interesting because they'll likely get 2 teams, probably Miami and SMU, into the Playoff. The Big 12 is basically just Texas Tech for the foreseeable future.
Louisville will make the ACC championship game agianst Miami. I think Louisville will go 10-2 1 conference loss. Slitting the games against the SEC 1-1 Miami will have 1 "Miami game" and slip up. With a close championship game down to the wire with Louisville pulling it out and both having home playoff games.
@Fooballsickostein has stoops class. The transfer portal we are above yall. Now high school ranking for 2026 we aren’t all that because that’s stoops class. Wait until next year, we will get all the top recruits and be above yall just like we did in the transfer portal this year.
Did I miss something? Virginia tech has better odds than Georgia tech? Did Georgia tech lose a bunch of of players or what? I get the transfers to Virginia tech but that’s extremely optimistic I think.
They will probably be solid but the lost a great QB along with some other pieces and damn near their whole coaching staff losing their OC and DC while having a QB with little experience
B12 BYU 2nd year Hiesman contender bear bachmier...? after they beat ND... they will only have to win the B12 and the sec cant keep them out for a 2 or 3 loss sec team again...
That's the funny thing you guys are a joke when it comes to talking about the SEC or the Big ten there's good teams in every division and there's more than what you guys want to give them credit for
Great topic and interesting way to work more Big 12 coverage, and ACC, but I only care about Tech & Big 12. I do follow recruiting and Miami has been quietly recruiting very well for the last couple of years, so last year or next year is not a surprise. BYU seemingly has the buy in from big money donors, great culture, and seemingly good alignment and I think they have a good HC, apparently so does PSU. Utah is a mystery and who knows the direction of FSU at this point. UH and SMU have enough NIL money to be talented enough to win the conference in good year for them and bad year for others. In any case, they are not going to be an easy out for a while. Clemson is not understanding the rules have changed and trying to win the way they did before the open player movement. You can't horde talent any more.
@BUCKStrickland-c7tI’m a Big 12 guy in TX who follows HS football recruiting and it seems to me that Miami doesn’t get the same hype to recruit ratio that other helmet schools do. The short version is it should be more surprising Miami lost 2 regular season games than making the title game. 😎
@raleighsanford5111I follow the canes recruiting a lot. I follow eastern and southern states recruits a bit. I know Miami doesn’t get a lot of kids from Texas anymore and it was never a lot. I want Miami to win those games but last year showed you could damn near win it all while still losing them. Goodluck you Texas tech. I pulled for them last year to do well.
The big 12 odds are pretty confused. - Arizona state and Houston have as much talent as Utah or more and I would give them both the coaching edge. Other that Utah’s schedule, they lost a bunch in the offseason, new coach, returning production is mid. - Arizona has a lot coming back. - Kstate is lost. - TCU meh. Think it will be a surprising year for the bottom 15 teams. Tech will dominate. BYU will be there again but fail. Houston will surprise everyone.
ASU also got picked apart this offseason and has lower returning production. Their odds may be a little low but thats it, nothing that puts them over Utah
Hopefully. I just wanna see the impossible .....meaning , I wanna see Notre Dame choke somehow and miss the playoffs. Is THAT even actually possible with a schedule this easy ?
They’ve lost to NIU under Freeman, anything is “possible” however I think the way they miss out on the playoff is they have a repeat of last year where their only two formidable opponents are both games they lose. If they drop Miami at home and somehow drop the BYU game, who do they say “yea we beat that good team”?
@richardwestern9546 BYU returning production is 18th. 64%. Sitake has been there a decade and they’ve never won a single elite game. What happened against Tech last year wasn’t a fluke.
@richardwestern9546I hope you're right. BYU beats ND and then Miami goes there to beat em will keep em out of the top 12 and cancel their automatic playoff bid lol.
@johnnywarner4468 I don't think that is impossible and it is entirely probable as I see ND losing to Miami and BYU and being 10-2 again with no quality wins, especially as BYU would only make the playoffs by winning the Big 12.
@Gorion-ch9xo I love your optimism, but at best, the Big 12 and ACC get 3 of the 12 slots in the playoffs. The 2 P2 conferences will get 8 slots, then the 1 G6 slot, leaving 3 for us.
Hate it all you want, I love the expanded playoff because it keeps hope alive for so many fanbases, like the ones mentioned in this video, deep into November rather than getting your season torpedoed in September for having the audacity to lose a single game!
I agree. Plus it makes late season November college football more meaningful. I’d like for it to stay at 12. I think it’s perfect but if we have to go to 16 I won’t be upset.
I get being delusional as a college football fan. If you were an IU fan saying you’re winning a Natty in 2 years would be delusion. That can be part of the appeal. Hope springs eternal. But. Also be ready for fall out. In 2025 Gtech had a 25% blue chip ratio (4+5 star). 2026 is 4%. The recruiting average player grade was 49th for 2026. Their net rank in the transfer portal was 53rd. The average player grade leaving was higher than what they got coming in. Returning production overall is 79th. Anything can happen. But what is likely is they are in a step back year.
@Fooballsicko Bro - All I said was underrated and would be a tough team to beat.. And then you wrote a novel .. Get a life.. Hahaha.. I didn’t say they would win a natty but do believe they will cover the 6.5 over wins ..
Nah. They were a senior led team with a unique player. They are rated accurately, maybe even too high. They had 15% blue chip ratio in 2025 and it’s 9% in 2026. They were 30th+ in recruiting player grade, and they are 106th in returning production even including transfer snaps 🤷♂️ Great get on the 5 star QB. But you need talent around him and he’s also a true freshman. They’re taking a step back this year. Could even go below the wins prediction.
I don't see why Tech is so highly regarded as so much better than the whole league. Yes, they were clearly best last year. But that kinda fits the narrative of any given year in the Big 12. The 2 years before 11-1 in 20125 were 8-5 and 7-6 Just spending a lot of money doesn't guarantee a thing, look at LSU and Florida. I'm not saying Tech shouldn't be the favorite, the conference could be continuing business as usual even though everyone is assuming Tech is now dominant.
Techs roster got even better overall than it was in 2025. Thats why. They dominated every team in the big 12 in recruiting and portal for the 2026 season. They dominated BYU twice with a QB with a fractured leg who wasn’t even that good. Beat Utah down with a back up QB. The coaching looks to be there. They swung on the portal and that staff got it to work in 2025. Comparing teams in the SEC is not the same because the talent between teams can be very similar. That’s not true in the big 12. Yes. Anything can happen. But these kinds of talent gaps in general lead to wins.
@moopert86 Well, Tech did have the 2nd best transfer class, and the 19th best HS class according to On3. While 19th may seem low, it is our highest rated class since they started using the star system in 1999. Tech does have the alignment, money, facilities, and coaches to keep it going. Then you have James Blanchard, whom ND tried to hire away last August, but felt he had a better situation in Lubbock.
Why will Utah be better than BYU? They might be but what do you base this on? Utes haven’t beat BYU 7 years. Utes lost half their coaching staff. New systems. Lost some key players. It’s far too generous to assume they’re going to make a jump and be better than BYU. Gimme some COMPELLING reasons. I hear crickets.
6 years. And they’ve only played 3 times in those 6 years. Don’t have to misrepresent like they are playing every year like OSU and Michigan. I do agree. Utah isn’t likely to be as good as the projections I see. I think it’s kind of a schedule bump.
@Fooballsicko The BYU vs Utah game would be a bran burner even if both were 1-10 it still would be a better game then any sec riverly game because it would be a great hard head busting game. between 2 great teams who never give up and play good ball even if they played every year. but BYU just has Utahs number. Kiliane and the bear. just cant beat them.
Mr pate Kevin Jennings is coming with his third year in a row with the same system this year he will have a left ankle that's strong. Heathrow for 3600 yards last year on one leg
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Josh Miami played for the ACC title in 2017. They qualified another year as well. But held themselves out they thought there was going to be sanctions on them and were being proactive. I could not figure out what year that was. I think post 2010.
Why would a school “hold themselves out” of a conference game, without being ordered to. I don’t believe you. Sounds like message board BS.
@Thelegendaryromero Yeah hes just lying, Miami never held themselves out of a title game.
@d1sportsball much less a school like Miami. They aren’t particularly known for being choir boys when it comes to following rules.
@Thelegendaryromero 2012 season. Miami did skip the ACC Championship and the bowl game. Check your facts.
@whiskeyjim1741 I’m not a Miami fan. I don’t know everything there is to know about Miami. Either way, they did not qualify, as they did not play in the game. The “reason” is irrelevant. So OP is incorrect. You either make the title game or you don’t. Miami has only made it once.
SMU, Arizona schools, Houston, Virginia Tech and Miami can all be conference championships in their respective conferences.
Cal ahead of FSU in the acc… wild times!
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You make good points about BYU. I just watched spring training. Bear didn't join until June last year and was learning on the job. Now he's had a full year to know the playbook so well he no longer has to think.
You're bringing back LJ Martin at running back and he was the Big 12 offensive player of the year last year. That might be the best quarterback running back duo in the entire Big 12. They brought in some great transfers for the offensive line and the o-line coach said this is the best and deepest o-line he's had since he's been there for the last 3 years. They have some tight end transfers that were the outstanding duo of spring camp so you have to believe that the offense is going to be much improved over last year. The defense looks to at least be on par with last year which was pretty good. As I recall I think it was a top 20 defense.
Their biggest game isn't even a conference game because they don't play Texas Tech. They seem to have Utah's number having won three in a row and Utah having new coaches and players could be making adjustments. No the biggest game is going to be that Notre Dame game and while no one gives them a chance to win, anyone who looks at their record at lavell Edwards stadium over the past couple of years, they're pretty darn difficult to beat. I would give them like a 30% or 35% chance to win that game. It's not a lock for Notre Dame in my opinion.
It’s 99%.
BYU has 0 elite wins under Sitake when facing talent gaps smaller than what ND has on them.
Not counting Utah because 1 there’s never a talent gap no matter what Utah is over ranked by and it’s a rivalry that defies rankings.
@Fooballsickodefinitely in years past when BYU was independent or in the mid-tier conferences, Notre Dame dominated them except for that one time in Notre Dame where they pulled out the upset. But that was a rarity.
Now BYU has been in a power conference for a few years and has built up much more quality recruiting and depth at every position. They seem to be improving every year and while they were dominated by Texas Tech last year in other games they showed resiliency and the ability to pull out close games. I believe they are even better this year and that's why I give them a larger chance, I'll be at still small, to win the game. If you're truly at 99% then I guess you assume that Notre Dame will run all over them and win by at least three touchdowns? I think it will actually be a reasonably close game but yes even I, a huge BYU alumnus and fan for the past 50 years expect Notre Dame to win the game.
@Fooballsicko You need to define elite wins, because outside of ND's playoff run in 2024, ND doesn't have elite wins under Freeman. They have some wins over USC & the like who were ranked due to their logo, but not elite teams. ND's schedule is similar to BYU's & last season, lost to the only 2 elite teams they played, BYU lost to the only elite team they faced last year, twice. Last year, there was no difference between BYU and ND, other than Knute Rockne.
@RJjohnson2026
Sitake doesn’t have any wins over a well coached team that has a big talent gap on BYU. They have to catch the team when they are a mess, in a transition period.
Most of the time, LSU, Oregon, Texas, Texas Tech, they’ve gotten blown out.
99% to win. Could be by 1 point could be by 50.
BYU is somewhat better this year. But Tech got even better than BYU did in the offseason and ND is and entire gap ahead of where Tech is.
@raleighsanford5111
In Sitakes run they’ve only ever beat high talent teams when those programs were a mess, coaching transition.
Also. Another interesting thing. Coaches that have been at a place 10+ years but never made a playoff, BCS, won a natty almost 100% never do with that program.
The ACC is more interesting because they'll likely get 2 teams, probably Miami and SMU, into the Playoff. The Big 12 is basically just Texas Tech for the foreseeable future.
Louisville
Louisville will make the ACC championship game agianst Miami. I think Louisville will go 10-2 1 conference loss. Slitting the games against the SEC 1-1 Miami will have 1 "Miami game" and slip up. With a close championship game down to the wire with Louisville pulling it out and both having home playoff games.
Yall losing to Kentucky in November. Stein will make sure of it.
@dustincross8172
Louisville’s roster is better than Kentuckys on every ranking site.
No idea what Stein is as a coach. But Brohm is the real deal.
@Fooballsickostein has stoops class. The transfer portal we are above yall. Now high school ranking for 2026 we aren’t all that because that’s stoops class. Wait until next year, we will get all the top recruits and be above yall just like we did in the transfer portal this year.
Texas Techs schedule is another pee wee football schedule they will win til they play at least a juco college team again
Did I miss something? Virginia tech has better odds than Georgia tech? Did Georgia tech lose a bunch of of players or what? I get the transfers to Virginia tech but that’s extremely optimistic I think.
They will probably be solid but the lost a great QB along with some other pieces and damn near their whole coaching staff losing their OC and DC while having a QB with little experience
Will Be A Factor ->
BIG12: Houston, Baylor, Arizona
BIG10: Washington, USC,
ACC: Louisville, Pitt, Virginia Tech
SEC: Auburn, Florida, South Carolina
B12 BYU 2nd year Hiesman contender bear bachmier...? after they beat ND... they will only have to win the B12 and the sec cant keep them out for a 2 or 3 loss sec team again...
Auburn will only be a factor in upsetting a top team.
Talent fell off a cliff.
Sure pal.
@Fooballsicko facts suck for the sec 2025 10-2 Bama lol
@ richardwestern9546
Huh? Don’t care about that my guy.
BYU ain’t doing nothing.
That's the funny thing you guys are a joke when it comes to talking about the SEC or the Big ten there's good teams in every division and there's more than what you guys want to give them credit for
You can easily make the case that Miami won't win the ACC because Mario just can't do it.
Great topic and interesting way to work more Big 12 coverage, and ACC, but I only care about Tech & Big 12. I do follow recruiting and Miami has been quietly recruiting very well for the last couple of years, so last year or next year is not a surprise.
BYU seemingly has the buy in from big money donors, great culture, and seemingly good alignment and I think they have a good HC, apparently so does PSU. Utah is a mystery and who knows the direction of FSU at this point. UH and SMU have enough NIL money to be talented enough to win the conference in good year for them and bad year for others. In any case, they are not going to be an easy out for a while.
Clemson is not understanding the rules have changed and trying to win the way they did before the open player movement. You can't horde talent any more.
I don’t think Miami has quietly done it but I’m east coast and do not follow western state schools recruiting at all. I follow what’s local to Miami.
@BUCKStrickland-c7tI’m a Big 12 guy in TX who follows HS football recruiting and it seems to me that Miami doesn’t get the same hype to recruit ratio that other helmet schools do. The short version is it should be more surprising Miami lost 2 regular season games than making the title game. 😎
@raleighsanford5111I follow the canes recruiting a lot. I follow eastern and southern states recruits a bit. I know Miami doesn’t get a lot of kids from Texas anymore and it was never a lot. I want Miami to win those games but last year showed you could damn near win it all while still losing them. Goodluck you Texas tech. I pulled for them last year to do well.
The big 12 odds are pretty confused.
- Arizona state and Houston have as much talent as Utah or more and I would give them both the coaching edge. Other that Utah’s schedule, they lost a bunch in the offseason, new coach, returning production is mid.
- Arizona has a lot coming back.
- Kstate is lost.
- TCU meh.
Think it will be a surprising year for the bottom 15 teams. Tech will dominate. BYU will be there again but fail. Houston will surprise everyone.
ASU also got picked apart this offseason and has lower returning production. Their odds may be a little low but thats it, nothing that puts them over Utah
Hopefully. I just wanna see the impossible .....meaning , I wanna see Notre Dame choke somehow and miss the playoffs. Is THAT even actually possible with a schedule this easy ?
They’ve lost to NIU under Freeman, anything is “possible” however I think the way they miss out on the playoff is they have a repeat of last year where their only two formidable opponents are both games they lose. If they drop Miami at home and somehow drop the BYU game, who do they say “yea we beat that good team”?
@lamontmorgan99 BYU is a good team they have 90% retention and 2nd year Bear QB...they will beat ND, and tt is revenge win...
@richardwestern9546
BYU returning production is 18th. 64%.
Sitake has been there a decade and they’ve never won a single elite game. What happened against Tech last year wasn’t a fluke.
@richardwestern9546I hope you're right. BYU beats ND and then Miami goes there to beat em will keep em out of the top 12 and cancel their automatic playoff bid lol.
@johnnywarner4468 I don't think that is impossible and it is entirely probable as I see ND losing to Miami and BYU and being 10-2 again with no quality wins, especially as BYU would only make the playoffs by winning the Big 12.
ACC will 3-4 teams n all will make runs SMU, Miami n Louisville are locks
@Gorion-ch9xo I love your optimism, but at best, the Big 12 and ACC get 3 of the 12 slots in the playoffs. The 2 P2 conferences will get 8 slots, then the 1 G6 slot, leaving 3 for us.
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Hate it all you want, I love the expanded playoff because it keeps hope alive for so many fanbases, like the ones mentioned in this video, deep into November rather than getting your season torpedoed in September for having the audacity to lose a single game!
I agree. Plus it makes late season November college football more meaningful.
I’d like for it to stay at 12. I think it’s perfect but if we have to go to 16 I won’t be upset.
12 teams is more than fair. If you are not a top 12 team in the nation by the end of the season why should you compete for a National Title?
Georgia Tech super underrated going into 2026.. Schedule is tough but they are not going to be an easy team to beat for anyone.
I get being delusional as a college football fan. If you were an IU fan saying you’re winning a Natty in 2 years would be delusion.
That can be part of the appeal. Hope springs eternal.
But. Also be ready for fall out. In 2025 Gtech had a 25% blue chip ratio (4+5 star). 2026 is 4%.
The recruiting average player grade was 49th for 2026.
Their net rank in the transfer portal was 53rd. The average player grade leaving was higher than what they got coming in.
Returning production overall is 79th.
Anything can happen. But what is likely is they are in a step back year.
@Fooballsicko Bro - All I said was underrated and would be a tough team to beat.. And then you wrote a novel .. Get a life.. Hahaha.. I didn’t say they would win a natty but do believe they will cover the 6.5 over wins ..
@ GT4Life4ever
They are overrated and won’t cover the 6.5.
@Fooballsicko Deeerrrrrrpppppp
The 5th best team in the ACC ended up being the 2nd best team in the country. That's just how deep the ACC is 😎
That was the case last season. This yr, Miami should win the conference outright..
Vanderbilt is criminally underrated
Nah. They were a senior led team with a unique player.
They are rated accurately, maybe even too high. They had 15% blue chip ratio in 2025 and it’s 9% in 2026. They were 30th+ in recruiting player grade, and they are 106th in returning production even including transfer snaps 🤷♂️
Great get on the 5 star QB. But you need talent around him and he’s also a true freshman.
They’re taking a step back this year. Could even go below the wins prediction.
Lol I may very well eat these words in the fall of 2026, but... I just want to point out that Virginia is ahead of Virginia Tech in the odds 😂
I don't see why Tech is so highly regarded as so much better than the whole league. Yes, they were clearly best last year. But that kinda fits the narrative of any given year in the Big 12. The 2 years before 11-1 in 20125 were 8-5 and 7-6 Just spending a lot of money doesn't guarantee a thing, look at LSU and Florida. I'm not saying Tech shouldn't be the favorite, the conference could be continuing business as usual even though everyone is assuming Tech is now dominant.
Coaching is everything please don’t bring up lsu or Florida
Techs roster got even better overall than it was in 2025. Thats why. They dominated every team in the big 12 in recruiting and portal for the 2026 season.
They dominated BYU twice with a QB with a fractured leg who wasn’t even that good. Beat Utah down with a back up QB. The coaching looks to be there. They swung on the portal and that staff got it to work in 2025.
Comparing teams in the SEC is not the same because the talent between teams can be very similar. That’s not true in the big 12.
Yes. Anything can happen. But these kinds of talent gaps in general lead to wins.
@moopert86 Well, Tech did have the 2nd best transfer class, and the 19th best HS class according to On3. While 19th may seem low, it is our highest rated class since they started using the star system in 1999. Tech does have the alignment, money, facilities, and coaches to keep it going. Then you have James Blanchard, whom ND tried to hire away last August, but felt he had a better situation in Lubbock.
Why will Utah be better than BYU? They might be but what do you base this on?
Utes haven’t beat BYU 7 years. Utes lost half their coaching staff. New systems. Lost some key players.
It’s far too generous to assume they’re going to make a jump and be better than BYU.
Gimme some COMPELLING reasons. I hear crickets.
9-3
Maybe Cam Rising got another year of eligibility lol
I hear a bear lol
6 years. And they’ve only played 3 times in those 6 years. Don’t have to misrepresent like they are playing every year like OSU and Michigan.
I do agree. Utah isn’t likely to be as good
as the projections I see. I think it’s kind of a schedule bump.
@Fooballsicko The BYU vs Utah game would be a bran burner even if both were 1-10 it still would be a better game then any sec riverly game because it would be a great hard head busting game. between 2 great teams who never give up and play good ball even if they played every year. but BYU just has Utahs number. Kiliane and the bear. just cant beat them.