How To Curve The Ball In Pool With Massé Expert Florian 'Venom' Kohler

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  • Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
  • We asked multiple time world champion Florian 'Venom' Kohler to show us exactly how he gets so much curve on a cue ball. Besides the years and years of practice, there are a couple of really important things to remember when attempting a masse shot. Also, if you're at a pool hall or someone else's house, it's usually a good move to make sure you're allowed to practice the masse.
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  • @BGLoscar
    @BGLoscar 4 года назад +14

    Been guessing it all this time.. The first 3 and half minutes explained it to me and that's all I need. I really appreciate it..

  • @nopeland1470
    @nopeland1470 4 года назад +11

    This man thought me so many things in only 11 mins & never said follow smt or turn on the bell like , other youtubers should learn from you. Thank you for the info & looking forward to future stuff

  • @poolhustlersinc
    @poolhustlersinc 4 года назад +22

    Pretty well explained Massé tutorial. Good work gentlemen 👍

  • @ZainKhan-hm4md
    @ZainKhan-hm4md 4 года назад +23

    You make it look so easy!

    • @jikill7586
      @jikill7586 2 года назад +1

      tbh, after watching the video i was like "i could do that"

  • @alexpaic2984
    @alexpaic2984 4 года назад +67

    Nice shots but now I know why the cloth on your table has more holes than Swiss chess. Nice tutorial though

  • @kenschortgenjr7540
    @kenschortgenjr7540 4 года назад +5

    Florian -
    As a part 2 to this, can you show how and where to hit for long range masse's. Ie... say the cue ball is at one end of the table and you have to go around a ball that's 3-4 diamonds away and have the cue then swerve after passing that ball to hit the object ball you desire.
    I have done a number of these in the past but inevitably they were more luck.... or rather the result of understanding the concept but where my execution was guesswork.
    Thanks as always for your great instruction!

    • @masterofdeception9802
      @masterofdeception9802 3 года назад +4

      For that u just need to not elevate as much cuz the more u elevate, the more the ball will curve

  • @jhonnyblade702
    @jhonnyblade702 Год назад

    I clicked on this to hear the damn secret, now your saying there is no secret except practice! Lol still learned a lot thank you.

  • @batmanpool1135
    @batmanpool1135 3 месяца назад

    It was a pleasure meeting you and playing you in Las Vegas

  • @mfabrizius
    @mfabrizius 9 месяцев назад +4

    How often do you replace the table felt ? I ask because watching some of your videos, the felt gets pretty worn in places from practicing shots over and over.

    • @adielagard453
      @adielagard453 9 месяцев назад

      just as often as i tap your mom

  • @CzarAice01
    @CzarAice01 Год назад +4

    Knee on the table? Dude I'm 5'6" 🤣🤣 that ain't happening

  • @chusquaredstudios3943
    @chusquaredstudios3943 2 года назад

    Thanks i have improved my skills after watching your video

  • @WilliamThorpe-m7o
    @WilliamThorpe-m7o 13 дней назад

    I like to learn different things 😉

  • @pousadacasaregina189
    @pousadacasaregina189 3 года назад

    Thanks from Brazil Florian😉

  • @jeremiahs7749
    @jeremiahs7749 5 месяцев назад

    Holy crap what a great video. man you have some talent. (plus you make it look so easy....)

  • @larrywhitesell4139
    @larrywhitesell4139 4 года назад +1

    Very nice instructions.

  • @kayingamathias7258
    @kayingamathias7258 2 года назад +1

    Thanks 4 da video I used to think it’s magic

  • @jhonnyblade702
    @jhonnyblade702 6 месяцев назад

    Experiment, no exact, find your sweet spot and there's no real secret!! 😢😂 Good info brother thank you as ALWAYS!

  • @mandisibafana1831
    @mandisibafana1831 4 года назад +2

    Is it possible to do a massè shot in the middle of the table?

  • @zanethind
    @zanethind Год назад

    I need to have this in my arsenal so thanks for this video

  • @fabioricardo4835
    @fabioricardo4835 Год назад +1

    Tips?

  • @maon7565
    @maon7565 2 месяца назад

    Kinda tough to see exactly where you're supposed to hit. Also, any tips on how to keep from piercing the felt?

  • @zimirifi8040
    @zimirifi8040 3 года назад

    Thanks From French Florian Kohler 😉

  • @bostonbocazimba2990
    @bostonbocazimba2990 15 дней назад

    nice one

  • @silenthunger3472
    @silenthunger3472 6 месяцев назад

    you also need the right table, the right cue, cue tip and felt to do this properly.

  • @GwakGwak-ct8yv
    @GwakGwak-ct8yv 3 года назад +1

    i got it on my second try but i did it at a local pool arena so i was afraid i might ruin the cloth and their cue hahah

  • @prawnstar9213
    @prawnstar9213 Месяц назад

    Quick question, I’ve watched good pool players, but some of the best players ive ever seen have sometimes been able to play using both hands. They shoot from either side. Do you practice this a lot?

  • @aaronfx7813
    @aaronfx7813 Год назад

    Thanks for the tutorial

  • @neilwilliams2947
    @neilwilliams2947 3 года назад

    Can you show us a long Marseille shot? Dude, you are fabulous!

  • @Meowman3000
    @Meowman3000 9 месяцев назад

    thy just played my first massé shot today :3

  • @woody816
    @woody816 4 года назад

    Venom is an artist

  • @alijumc
    @alijumc 2 года назад

    Wish I knew this x years ago D. Thanks.

  • @frankhernandez133
    @frankhernandez133 Год назад

    Thumbs up!! Aiming is defined, yet not explained well. Massé shots are used & needed when the cue ball is away from the rail; leading to inquiries about Massé shots from all areas of the table. Is it a break/jump stick which is being used? Grip is one thing noted. Do arm &/or wrist movement differ from (for example) draw or power shots? Practice remains key to all sports! A video on practice drills may help a players knowledge of progression.

  • @Atharkhan123
    @Atharkhan123 2 года назад +1

    🌰🍗🍖🍄🌰🪑🪑va kiya shout hai

  • @patrickvayeke5539
    @patrickvayeke5539 3 месяца назад +2

    it looks a bit easy

  • @jamesgumby
    @jamesgumby 4 года назад

    Great video!

  • @joshualavigne8
    @joshualavigne8 4 года назад

    Hi.. can you try and explain two rail and a three rail shot, and some drills to get better at them.

  • @mingwu10able
    @mingwu10able 2 месяца назад

    To do masse shot, do we need different (softer?) tip from regular tip?

  • @Forestsight
    @Forestsight 4 года назад +2

    What kind of tip do you usually use for masse shots? Thanks Venom.

    • @RollieWilliams
      @RollieWilliams 4 года назад +12

      He uses a Kamui Super Soft, and I promise I'm not just saying that.

    • @johnchen502
      @johnchen502 3 года назад

      I think he use a cheap tip (master)

  • @billwrinkle9662
    @billwrinkle9662 4 года назад +5

    Jesus. Look at his cloth. No wonder pool halls frown on masse shots.

    • @antonioflores1221
      @antonioflores1221 4 года назад

      Champion teach as nowdrow shot and haw Manu hours do you entrainin daly

  • @Malikcodm123
    @Malikcodm123 Месяц назад

    Is Alca gonna be available today?

  • @donniefoster7713
    @donniefoster7713 6 месяцев назад

    Nice looking pool cue you have there sir what kind of cue is that?

  • @bopeplays1441
    @bopeplays1441 3 года назад

    I'm really bad pool and I'm gonna try it out and I started pool

  • @izzaddeenyushaumuhammad5022
    @izzaddeenyushaumuhammad5022 2 года назад

    That awesome.

  • @sirvhoc7343
    @sirvhoc7343 4 месяца назад

    Good day sir,, can i recreate your tricks and post it in my fb reels

  • @masterdurick5667
    @masterdurick5667 3 года назад

    2:14 peep the kamui product placement! and he probably is using a kamui tip too

  • @batmanpool1135
    @batmanpool1135 3 месяца назад

    You could get a pice of cloth and put it under the qball

  • @tmanepic
    @tmanepic 4 года назад

    My God this guy makes it look so damn easy!

    • @DHGWHISKEY117
      @DHGWHISKEY117 Год назад

      Years of practice and honing to perfect technique

    • @TPark-rf3lt
      @TPark-rf3lt Год назад

      you know this is trickshot master Florian "Venom" Kohler, right? this is his jam! 😄

  • @bravestbullfighter
    @bravestbullfighter 7 месяцев назад

    Does masse kill your tip faster so should one use a dedicated masse junk cue?

  • @dillonnolimits3527
    @dillonnolimits3527 Год назад

    Hello. How to you hit multiple banks then have the ball curve? Is table on tilt?

  • @trungkientran6939
    @trungkientran6939 4 года назад +1

    Please make a bank shot video!

  • @philippelesage3729
    @philippelesage3729 20 дней назад

    there is always the freakin lights on top on the table that i hit my fingers on

  • @eliastafesse7528
    @eliastafesse7528 2 года назад

    Wow you are wonderful

  • @davem45
    @davem45 Год назад

    does chalk matter with a masse? any recommendations?

  • @tama_malaeloa
    @tama_malaeloa Год назад

    What website did u order for pool table from pls

  • @danielcross600
    @danielcross600 7 месяцев назад

    use a regular cue and see how well you do

  • @arpitpatel83
    @arpitpatel83 4 года назад

    Is there a particular brand of chalk? I use kamui 0.86

  • @parkourchickens7832
    @parkourchickens7832 4 года назад +2

    How come you and Florian are always posting the exact same videos

    • @kad296
      @kad296 4 года назад

      Florian is sponsored by kamui

  • @Overkill_dnb
    @Overkill_dnb 4 года назад +1

    "...and it's literally a piece of cake."
    Show off

  • @danielmatthew1726
    @danielmatthew1726 2 года назад

    what about the height or elevation effect the masse?

  • @alejandrocubero4760
    @alejandrocubero4760 3 года назад

    What tip did you use sir?

  • @crystallava5002
    @crystallava5002 2 года назад +1

    How bad is masse for the table?

  • @neuvocastezero1838
    @neuvocastezero1838 4 года назад +2

    I read once that to get really extreme masse' shots, sometimes the table is sprayed with silicone lubricant to allow for faster initial spin. Is that accurate? I realize that it would screw up the equipment for a standard game, but I was just curious.

    • @richardclingempeel6111
      @richardclingempeel6111 Год назад

      Yeah, this don't work on the simonis I play on.🤔

    • @bonkbonk2557
      @bonkbonk2557 Год назад

      @@richardclingempeel6111 his cloth is simonis for carom, u can do masse on cbpa cloth

  • @louieavi
    @louieavi 6 месяцев назад

    ha, and you get all those tears in the table :)

  • @Bornabastard
    @Bornabastard 4 года назад +3

    What kind of tip?

    • @jacquesnascimento1260
      @jacquesnascimento1260 4 года назад

      It must be soft due to the contact area will be bigger with more grip and spins a lot

    • @Bornabastard
      @Bornabastard 4 года назад

      @@jacquesnascimento1260 thank you

  • @BambiCorroIII
    @BambiCorroIII Месяц назад

    isn't this named after the trick shot master Mike Massey?

    • @CoyoteEnix
      @CoyoteEnix Месяц назад

      Obviously, not. Because a messé word came from France. It means a "hammer" as I know.

  • @ryangerber8840
    @ryangerber8840 3 года назад

    what cues do u use

  • @iksanjubaydi3116
    @iksanjubaydi3116 2 года назад

    Kapan bs lg indonesia

  • @nicolashosein
    @nicolashosein Год назад

    What pool stick
    do you use heary or light

    • @georgedarrow398
      @georgedarrow398 3 месяца назад

      Masse shots you want to use large tip heavy cue. They make masse cues that are short fat and heavy (I call mine father in law 😂)

  • @abdulazizihassan5468
    @abdulazizihassan5468 3 года назад

    9:53 what is the cue stick company name

  • @dougmcknight1024
    @dougmcknight1024 7 месяцев назад

    Damn, that really F's up you're table.

  • @dannygiorgetti47
    @dannygiorgetti47 4 года назад

    Is it possible to use a standard cue or does it have to be a masse cue because I don’t have a masse cue I only have a normal one.

    • @jimmysharma6022
      @jimmysharma6022 Год назад

      Anything is possible when one watches the entire video to fully comprehend and appreciate the skill being taught. But that takes patience and requires one to be able to focus….yet most like you find this challenging and can be found lowering the IQ of comments sections with questions which one wants about as much as the scum which collects at the corner of the mouth.

    • @redbuck1385
      @redbuck1385 4 месяца назад

      ​@@jimmysharma6022Hey it's been a year are you less of a twat yet?

  • @TheVndls
    @TheVndls 3 года назад

    I cant practice in my table, i dont want to ruin the cloth...

  • @kingofcastlechaos
    @kingofcastlechaos 10 месяцев назад

    Masse is French for "I crush your felt."

  • @laisramos1132
    @laisramos1132 2 года назад

    👏👏👏👏

  • @coopernwo007
    @coopernwo007 4 года назад

    What is that first trick shot in the intro?

    • @sam8603
      @sam8603 3 года назад

      The trickshot at 0:10 of the video it's called the Satellite Masse. It's not as easy as what Florian makes of it. Trust me I've tried even after his tutorial on it many a times.

  • @Gruuvin1
    @Gruuvin1 6 месяцев назад

    Yep. 2:22 shows me why I don't want to practice this technique.

  • @yanivtube
    @yanivtube 6 месяцев назад

    are u sure you dont mean 12 oclock not 6 oclock ?

  • @sinwithagrin4205
    @sinwithagrin4205 5 месяцев назад +1

    Think id rather bank, kick, jump, or even play a safety...I dont have a sponsor to come change my cloth unfortunately. Gets expensive for us middle class folks! Love your vids bro😊!!

  • @austinbailey7770
    @austinbailey7770 9 месяцев назад

    I don’t like doing it this way (shoots best shot so far) 😂

  • @dosimontmickael5209
    @dosimontmickael5209 4 года назад

    Bonjour Florian j'aime beaucoup ce que tu fais mais je voudrais savoir si tu serais d'accord de sous titrer tes vidéos en français pour que les francophones puisse comprendre vu que tu es français ?
    Ps : je sais que tu vas dire ben apprend l'anglais micka.
    And you right 👍
    Mais c'est ce que je fait en cours du soir 😜 mais ça serai bien de te comprendre avant 4 ans xD

  • @yacinmissi7567
    @yacinmissi7567 3 года назад

    Omg

  • @Overkill_dnb
    @Overkill_dnb 4 года назад

    pause at 2.27 - is his tip shaped at an angle?

  • @benedictmatthew5792
    @benedictmatthew5792 4 года назад

    rail masse to get out of a snooker

  • @MrAlecyang205
    @MrAlecyang205 3 года назад

    Eyes get it
    Hand No

  • @honeybartlett6744
    @honeybartlett6744 Год назад

    The text letters are blocking they video.. EVERYONE NEEDS TO LOSE THE LETTERS

  • @laurenceleadman4779
    @laurenceleadman4779 2 года назад

    When you got a Santa. Belly and 69 you lift your leg .no way with me

  • @larryleadman3356
    @larryleadman3356 3 года назад

    Sho me piguet

  • @sreser111
    @sreser111 3 месяца назад

    it still worked well. Not good...:)

  • @jacobauigbelle9312
    @jacobauigbelle9312 4 года назад

    Comment #4

  • @earlrussell1026
    @earlrussell1026 2 года назад

    You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. You must love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus the Anointed is Lord! Repent and be baptized and believe the Gospel!

  • @markadams3008
    @markadams3008 2 месяца назад

    totally useless shot. if you know your angles then you never need a masse.
    how many times have you seen pro players use this? less than 0.5% of the time; ergo USELESS shot.
    good for utube videos i guess, but won’t win you pool or snooker matches.
    besides, if you can’t hit correct doubles, you have no business even watching masse shots. talk about running before you can walk!

  • @MonsterTankiMan711
    @MonsterTankiMan711 4 года назад

    FIRST COMMENT

  • @wliva76
    @wliva76 4 года назад

    Notice the que ball has 6 red dots. It's the lightest cue that produces the most spin. Not that impressive, use a mud ball and I'll be impressed. Plus the cloth of the table is more nylon than wool.

  • @pleasehelpmereached1ksub
    @pleasehelpmereached1ksub 8 месяцев назад

    what is the best tip for masse?

  • @yurib5089
    @yurib5089 Год назад

    Where do you go shopping for a masse cue?