Why So Many Great Scientists Come From Hungary
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One about Carl Sagan pls!!!! 🌍❤
Ma'am can you make videos on Igor Vasilyevich Kurchatov , Edward teller, Aristotle, Grigori perelman and Hans bethe because there is no videos on them instead of some 1 hr biographies
BRIGHT IS KEY in todays world and they need just to look at it is mostly and let the subconscious take it in and connect it/make connection and store.or the science part of the mind I suppose
I am smarter than all these guys. I have created the hardest puzzle in the world.
ye now sell the truth about hungary
They were not "The Martians" because of their foreign accents. They were "The Martians" in honor of their out-of-this-world, next-level genius.
I suspect the genius is there in virtually EVERY population, but betrayed by poor educational policies and procedures. When one of my students complained that I was not teaching college algebra in the same manner in which they had learned in high school, I realized the vivid reality that they had been betrayed by a teacher who *_taught by ROTE,_* instead of to *_understanding._*
God allowing, I hope to build my own university based on the principles I have learned over the years.
😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
🤔I like, that they talk smart and sound funny 🤣
Exactly. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martians_(scientists)
🤔or maybee they have some alien DNA like me
As far as I know these scientists spoke in Hungarian with each other, and this language is very strange and isnt similar to any other language, thats why they were Martians.
Many of these gymnasiums (a.k.a. high schools) inculcated a high-degree of self-confidence in their students’ willingness to trust in themselves an ability to learn. These schools encouraged their students to draw their own conclusions from their individual and communal curiosities. And if it so happened that the students’ curiosities led to an incorrect conclusion, then they were gently corrected yet encouraged to remain both curious and open to drawing conclusions elsewhere.
Learning starts with a belief in oneself that one CAN learn.
It reminds me of a quote (all caps are mine):
“Muad'Dib learned rapidly because his first training was in HOW TO LEARN. And the first lesson of all was the basic TRUST that he COULD learn. It's shocking to find how many people do not believe they can learn, and how many more believe learning to be difficult. Muad'Dib knew that every experience carries its lesson.” - Frank Herbert, “Dune,” 1965
keep sharing your message /wisdom with the community & the world .The simplicity I love it
Have to copy this somewhere, because this Arab-ish guy seem to know me personally.
In hungary, we are very proud of their achivements. The school system was reformed by Kuno von Klebelsberg, who set the goal of making the country an "intelectual superpower".
The hungarian education system currently has quite a few problems, the biggest is the low amount of respect and compensation the teachers get, ensuring only crazy people (sadly, more often the bad type than the good) get into teaching, and it's a downward spiral. They keep lowering the requirements to get into teaching, but at the same time, keep upping the output requirements, upping class sizes, and cut funding to the point where teachers had to bring printing paper, toilet paper, soap and chalk to some schools. Teachers are constantly overworked, burning out, and ending up very bad teachers.
The current system somehow still has some super talented educators and amazing schools, and the good learners often get very good education. The system focuses on the 'talented' kids (measured by the local equivivalent of GPA), and cares very little of those who are a bit slower. Even at elementary schools the groups are sometimes separated at age 10. I was lucky to be born a fast learner and had amazing teachers, but I saw some of the teachers of the 'normal' groups and eww, were they awful. Our schools in fact INCREASE inequalities, be that financial (private tutoring, extra classes) or geographical (some areas have way better schools, even my family considered moving so I can get better schooling, altough my gymnasium is still the best in the region).
Sounds like America.
Agree
Let's add that all the problems currently found in Hungarian education pertain to the state education system. This is not surprising, as teachers only need to comply with a bureaucratic set of rules and are not incentivized to ensure that parents and children are satisfied. Their salary does not depend on their excellence. All these problems would disappear if there were only private schools. However, the political power does not favor this because they would have much less legitimacy to take 55% of workers' income in the form of taxes.
Thank you for taking the time to explain that. So many similar problems with education in the US. Most of these are due to parents not willing to devote any time to helping their children be better students.
@@szilardecsenyi516 Most people could not afford private education, so this is moot point.
Thank you.
Nicola Tesla was Serbian born in Croatia.
My mother and grandmother were born in Kansas, USA. Their ancestors were from the old Austrian Hungarian Empire. These people were and are my heroes.
Thanks, again.
First of all he spelled his name as Nikola Tesla. He clearly wrote in his patents that he was from Smiljan-Lika of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. You are so proud of your Serbian past that you don’t mention Michael I. Pupin. He too was a giant of science. While on his hospital deathbed , Tesla visited Pupin who asked his pardon of their falling out of many yeas ago for which Tesla responded, “there is nothing to forgive, my old friend.”
Yes, in today's Croatia. But back then it was the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Just to clarify, his home was in the Krajina region, populated with Serbs mostly, which is a part of today's Croatia.
Mihajlo (Michael) Pupin was from another, eastern part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire called Banat. His hometown was Idvor (now in Serbia), hence his American surname Idvorsky.
Perhaps the two of the three greatest Serbian scientists and inventors of all time, the third being Milutin Milankovic (mathematician and geophysicist, best known for multiple geological cycles and their effects on climate).
He’s in space rn
Banat is romanian territory. The small Banat is in Serbia, the big Banat is in Romania with Timishoara as its capital. The serbian Banat and the Timoc Valley, close nearby in Serbia are populated till this day by romanians. The romanians of Serbia speak an archaic dialect of romanian. There is no territorial quarrel between the two countries and tjat is very good. The serbian romanians can go to Romania and romanian serbs can go to Serbia any time they want. And that is very good for the romanians of both countries. Same is happening with the romanians and hungarians living in Hungary and Romania. It does not matter that much if Tesla was serbian or croatian. What it matters is the educational system of the Austro-Hungarian Empire that was totaly reformed in the middle of the 19 century. Emperor Franz Joseph asked a jew scientist to reform the educational system. He did such a good job that towards the end of that century the brilliant brains inside the empire were coming out on tje european scientific scene in droves. 7 of the nobel price hungarian born nuclear scientists who worked at El Alamo were educated before the fall of the Austro- Hungarian Empire. Tesla was also a creation of that high standard educational system. There is a book written by an american lady, daughter of one of these scientist about "9 hungarian scientist who changed the world". I think she was the daughter of the nuclear phisicist Edward Teller but I am not sure.
@@petermarkovits-ke2gp we know where Timisoara is. It is not like anyone could forget Ceaucescu’s bloody massacre there. Who could ever forget such a tragedy? Perhaps you since you can’t even remember the person who helped Franz Josef reform the educational system.
John Von Neumann counts for 3 geniuses
More like 5
Dude was on some higher level understanding of the universe.
@@marcioamaral7511 its a name joke "john" "von" "neumann"
Good call.
Yanchi was his childhood Yiddish nickname.
@@Rmeggedonyanchi = Jancsi.
Is a common nickname for Janos (John) in Hungary.
It's not jiddish.
Amazing video. Well put together. thank you for sharing. The Genius of Hungary. 🇭🇺
I went to Budapest recently.
I found out that they have a great history of scientific intellect.
I think the language is partly responsible. There are no prepositions in Hungarian. The language uses posposition tags so that you have to wait until the end of the sentence to find out who did what. It maks people better listeners. In English, we use lots of prepositions, so we know where the speaker is going before they are done, oe so we think. Also, the language is completely phonetic. If you ask how to spell something and how to pronounce something, it is the same question. This saves about two years in language studies over English. English has its advantages, though. You can say just about anything in English. My son's second cousin is a math teacher in Hungary. When he was visiting, my son learned more in two days from him than he learned in an entire semester in high school. Another of my son's second cousins has finished his PhD in Engineering. He has done some post doctoral work at MIT and will be doing more at Cal Tech. One of my Hungarian friends has a PhD in Mathematics and is Erdos 2. Yes, there are a lot of brilliant Hungarians.
There was recently an article on the subject in the German magazine "Sezession". It showed the connection between grammar and mindset. According to the article, language favours logical thinking and also creates a special form of love for one's homeland. Title: Sprechen und Sein. Über Ungarns Identität.
its because they don't speak English
@@belstar1128 There are some very good mathematicians who were native English speakers. I wrote a paper about Arthur Cayley in college and looked through his collected mathematical papers. He was one of the most prolific mathematicians in history and wrote the rules for matrix mathematics. His clarity of thought was expressed in his papers and his is the best explanation of matrix mathematics I have ever read. And there are many others like Newton, Boole, Turing and many others.
🎉 Thank you for this bril insight! ❤
Cheerz from Hungarian 🇭🇺 working in 🇬🇧
@@nathannever9069 ❤🎉
Don’t forget, that at the end of WW1 the 2/3 of Hungary was teared down from the country and that gave flame to natioanlism.
yes but they lost, the war
Interesting is that the Erdös number is from Hungary a place with many exceptional mathematicians.
its from Paul Erdos, another giant in mathematics
Dont forget George Polya
Hungarians making Mercedes Benz safe ( Béla Barényi) and ball-pens and other inventions would also be an interesting video.
Back in the 1960s, my dad's boss at Ampex was Peter Szego, Gabor Szego's son. Peter gave my dad his first programming manual, on BASIC.
"In 1944, Hungarian Regent Miklós Horthy saved more Jews than anyone else in the world. Yet today, next to the efforts of heroic diplomats like Carl Lutz and Raoul Wallenberg, Horthy has become a forgotten footnote to history.
The reason? At first glance, Horthy-a self-proclaimed anti-Semite and anti-Communist-was not exactly a hero for the textbooks. But the truth isn’t so simple. Closer examination shows that Horthy paid lip service to the Nazis while privately strategizing how to prevent deportation of the Jews. Horthy defied Hitler, took back partial power and forbade further deportations, ultimately preventing a quarter-million Hungarian Jews from perishing in the Holocaust."
But Jewish deportation by the Nazi was incentivize by the world Jewry’s Zionist agenda of carving out the state of Isreal in Palestine and they need to boost up the number of Jews present in Palestine to create a more legitimate case for their Zionist goal.
Not true. He could avoid to let all the regional jews to be deported. He was weak and coward to save them. Don't try to belittle the sin, please. This makes the entire sin even worse.
@@balazsboros2638 If he was openly opposing Hitler, Germany would have done a coup in Hungary and put a much worse, Nazi leader like Szálasi in power, years before it actually happened and basically no Jews would have survived.
Bullshit
Not true, most of auschwitz was hungarian jew and hungarian gypsys.
We are taking this video to 1 million.
I hope that it will hit 1 million views
It won’t 🤷🤣🤣🤣
Paul Erdős is missing here!
Don't forget greatest virtuoso pianists: Franz Liszt and Giorgi Cziffra. Probably nobody on earth ever had the technical ability these two people had. Cziffra was also a stunning jazz pianist and could also improvise using the most difficult passagework imaginable.
Liszt, well probably nobody could play as well or had the technical powers he had. Liszt was also a genius arranger. And Liszt wrote some great tunes.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Was this because of very good mentors
Franz Liszt spoke German as his mother tongue. His father was Adam List and Grandfather was Juraj List. The family tree has various ethnic Slovak/Hungarian and Austrian roots and his ancestors were born in what are today parts of Austria, Slovakia and Hungary. Franz Liszt was the first List who used the Hungarian written from of his name, where his Father and Grandfather used the Slovak spelling. No single "nation" should claim Franz Liszt as "their", because the Kingdom of Hungary, then part of the Austro-Hungarian empire, was a multi-ethnic and multi-national monarchy. Franz Liszt does not belong to anybody.
The way you narrate is excellent, you really transmit the story and you have a beautiful voice. Thank you for educating the world.
Richard Feynman (Pictured bottom second from last) was actually American.
he was a jew
They were hungary for scientific discoveries
Is that supposed to be funny!?
😂 you cann't think when ur hungry, trust me
@@athingwithtubes
Trust YOU!?
Firstly; you must conquer grammar! Secondly;
something about your username just doesn't
jive!
@@touchofgrey5372 are we supposed to take you seriously? Your arrogance is so big that i had to pause the video on the TV and take my phone to write this, people like you are the ones that make anything including learning as boring and tedious as staring at a wall.
If you need to criticize someone's grammar it means that you probably do not have any relevant skill, and need to complain about other's grammar which barely anyone gives a damn about.
Go conquer some grass e-e
They were Ashkenzi Jews, who have the highest average IQ in the world - 112
I am genuinely surprised how accurate was your research and i am more surprised how i didn't connect some of the dots before. I am Hungarian btw. Excellent video.
Wait, isn't that Feynman on the bottom row of the "Martians"? His accent was Queens, NY, though I suppose that's debatably foreign. LOL
This could be one of the most important videos of the year. It will probably ignored by 80% of -people.
99.999% of people, you mean.
So true
Maybe even 99.9999%@@Mikkihiiri27
Why would it be the most important?
@@mygirldarby most people don't know
Some Remarks, if interested:
-"Minta" means sample/example, "Minta Gimnázium" refer its role in training pre-degree teachers at the university right across the street (now named after Eötvös, Loránd ), so it also translates to "Etalon High-school"
-The map showing the territories of Austria and Hungary is not correct, as the post-1920 territories was shown. We might agree that either the date of these scientist's birth is relevant for denoting area of these states, or the area where Hungarian-speaking people were in majority at that time. Even the town of Margitta is not on the shown territory. The full name "margittai Neumann János" translates to John Neumann von/of Margitta.
-Some of the "martians" gave credit to the Hungarian language also. Maybe it was Teller, Ede. Our language use "most significant first" ordering (names, numbers, dates, etc). Instead of saying: "Johann von Neumanns geburtstag ist in "8-und-20ste Dezember, 9-10-100-3", we say: "Margittai Neumann János születésnapja 1000-900-3, December 20-on-8-adikán van." See also: health is "Unit/Whole-ness", to fear is "1/2", doubt is two-ness, union is "one-ness".
And also, we use no genders. There is not even any translation of "gender" to Hungarian. So, we can only translate it as "sex". Hope, that will help.
Richard Feynman was born in Far Rockaway, Queens, New York: that may be the source of his foreign accent.
;)
We’re well aware he was American (and did a video about him). The point was to show he was one of the main scientists on the manhattan project but I can see how it was made to look like we meant he was foreign
It is worth to take a look for some of these "hungarian" scientist. Neumann, Teller, Semmelweis, Ulmann... Szilárd leó ( born name: Spitz Leo), Richter Gedeon, and a lot more.. Half of them are jewish and/or german origin.
Exactly
Much more than half
Worth it for whom?
Almost all of them are Jewish and have been educated in western universities. All of them are from a small, enlightened urban circle that existed before WW2 in Hungary. Interesting also that on one hand side they are called the Hungarian heroes but also looked down as the internationalists by Hungarians.
Teller was proud Hungarian until his death. Their Jewish origin was not really important , and they never forget where they came from, as well as their mother tongue, what they used as "secret code" to trick the secret services of the US.
Gosh, it is so ridiculously obvious why so many great scientists come from Hungary. They are Hungary for Knowledge!
The "hungary - hungry" parallelism follows us everywhere. You are about the millionth in the line who invented it.
@@dorzsboss As the say has it: Last, but not Least. 😎
@@dorzsbossyou say you're not impressed but i'm Hungary for more!
Why were ancient astronomers, scientists and philosophers only Greeks?
because they were the first Europeans who could read and write
Great video!
I wish that the U.S. would have done more to help the Hungarians in 1956.
Eisenhower could have helped by sending just a few marines after the Soviets were expelled. They returned when they knew the West did nothing.
@@madmax6827 It's hard for me to blame the Hungarian government for being cynical about American foreign policy considering how little aid they received in their hour of need.
@@galaxyn3214 Or the in-your-face woke ambassador (Pressman) they sent to Hungary who thinks he can dictate to Orbán's government.
And risk sparking a wider conflict?
@@user-dy9jq4lc5y Yes, especially when shouting about the benefits of democracy.
Of all the people mentioned in this video, I found only 1 not being Jewish: Laszlo Racz.
Wikipedia states his mother was a Danube German. Also, his surname suggests that his paternal lineage was Serbian (Racz is the old Hungarian word for a Serb).
So , they were Jews from Austria-Hungary ! 😂😂😂
For your info , when Hungarians learned that they are not even more than 50% in their own country , they started the politic of Magyarization of the other ethnicities . First to be Magyarized , were the Jews which accounted for 5% of the population by the end of 19th century . So the Hungarians claimed to be 54% of the population .
@@seaman5705 Very true. Let's not forget that Magyarization was preceded by Germanization by about half a century and has already influenced the Jews who changed their names to fit the society. Interestingly, Germans counted over 50% in the population of Budapest. Later, the number of Jews in Budapest increased to some 23% before Magyarization took place.
Here's a particularly interesting quote from Wiki which sheds some light to what's been said in the video:
By 1910 about 900,000 religious Jews made up approximately 5% of the population of Hungary and about 23% of Budapest's citizenry. Jews accounted for 54% of commercial business owners, 85% of financial institution directors and owners in banking, and 62% of all employees in commerce,[105] 20% of all general grammar school students, and 37% of all commercial scientific grammar school students, 31.9% of all engineering students, and 34.1% of all students in human faculties of the universities. Jews were accounted for 48.5% of all physicians,[72] and 49.4% of all lawyers/jurists in Hungary.
But why arent jws from other countries not so talented...
@@timeanagy8495 They are . Don't flatter yourself Hungarosaura !
And they are Jews , not jws !
@@seaman5705 well i dont think so. They are talented, but not so talented in most of the countries. Btw talent is not enough at all, the environment, luck is more important. One example: the 7 million jws in Israel produced only some Olympic gold medals. Hungary produced almost 200, and there were some jwish winners. Some of them won 3 or even 5 gold medals. They could never do that in Israel.
There was a specific time where this genius was cultivated, the school system was truly something that would guide you and encourage you, too bad what it has become.
wait wait wait. ive always been fantasizing of a fictional scenario where in a world where most advanced knowledge is already discovered, they kind of allow scholars to go through discovering past discoveries themselves.
your telling me this is an actual thing done for an actual schools in hungary? holy shit!
well not including the whole "all advanced knowledge is already known" part.
but developing students in this way is just is wild!
Its called modern education. From which hilltop do you call that you have never heard of this?
@@michaelrenper796 modern education?
most education ive only ever known is all about memorization, and condescendingly telling a student "you should know all this"
or when i was a kid trying my best to understand algebra in highschool crying a teacher who had 1 hour per 5 day to be able to help that one crying kid who clearly wanted to understand what they were reading.
and all one needed to understand shit was well... an 10 minute khan academy video on youtube.
if there is one thing i learned in highschool its to advance study before a teacher even teaches it in classroom because my teachers were shit.
and that advanced study wasn't like that whole "discover it on our own" like is explained in this video.
it was just me writing my own syllabus. so i knew before hand what i should be studying.
worst part is i like learning, but highschool just tries its best to make it as much of a drag and as much of a torture as it can.
college on the other hand? hell yeah! i got to chose to pace myself, and the instructors were alot more chill. i actually got to learn most of math, algebra, trig, history, etc. college is great!
sorry for the rant, my highschool experience just fills me with infuriation.
feel free to skip tbh...
Can you give me an example of a country where this type of learning method applied in their modern schools ?
@@rememberme5784 i assume this is a question for @michaelrenper796?
if your asking me im just as surprised with the video to learn that its a thing about hungary so otherwise i have no clue.
Great video. Very informative!
THE FLAG IS FLIPPED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's a distress signal calling for a rescue attempt. I learnt that while I was a boy scout because we were going into deep countryside to earn our badges.
MEANWHILE My country destroying our education system forcing us to learn 2 years of material in 1 year..Good teachers are needed to make good students
Wrong, the state can never be a good owner of education either. All the problems currently found in Hungarian education pertain to the state education system. This is not surprising, as teachers only need to comply with a bureaucratic set of rules and are not incentivized to ensure that parents and children are satisfied. Their salary does not depend on their excellence. All these problems would disappear if there were only private schools. However, the political power does not favor this because they would have much less legitimacy to take 55% of workers' income in the form of taxes.
Excellent video.
Amazing video. I've had this very conversation with friends regarding higher education for years now. You owe a great deal to that type of foundation your education system builds for its students.
Permit me a "yes, but..." This system is lasered in on the top achievers. What becomes of the "also rans"? In North America we expend most of our educational resources on low achievers and socially deviant types. This yields a better educated lower class while the high achievers are starved for resources.
Hungary has a relatively homogeneous population, but still one notes that the scientists often have Germanic surnames, not Magyar.
I am Vietnamese and Magyarország (Hungary) is one of my favorite countries. Her culture, people, land and history are SO BEAUTIFUL!!! I want to live there.🥰😍
They are against immigrants - so take care !
@@seaman5705 No, they are ONLY against Muslim invaders. I have been in place and the people are very nice to my family and I.
Also, there are thousands of Vietnamese who have been living there for the past 70 years 😁
@@luongo7886 Hmm - I know them better , my friend . I live just around the corner . When their PM will say "immigrants are bad" , you should run .
@luongo7886 And you are wrong. No Vietnamese people lived in Eastern European Communist countries until 1990. You might be young and far from what happened in those years. Also your communist regime will not allow people leaving the country.
@@seaman5705 Thousands of Vietnamese are still living there without any trouble so you are wrong!
Also, Hungarians are Asians! So why would they discriminate against Vietnamese people? 😆🥹🤣
This whole video just breaks down into "hard Times create strong (wo)men"
The schooling industry clearly needs to take a good look at those schools, and do whatever they did to produce results like those.
They focused on merits. They encouraged inferential reasoning in schooling.
Intelligence is innate. For maximum result it's better to seperate high schools based on aptitudes and IQ
Probably already mentioned but the book "The man from the future" about JVN is very good (listened as an audiobook on Spotify)
I may have missed but did you mention Vannevar Bush, the Carnegie Institute and their receptiveness to Einstein`s recommending the Hungarians?
Thank God Hungary is sticking up for their people =)
As a Hungarian, thank you for this presentation. A small note:
"Minta gimnázium" means "Exemplary High School" and is a nickname. The proper name of that High School was: "ELTE Trefort Ágoston Gyakorlóiskola" abbreviated as "Trefort". Everybody knows it here as the "Trefort".
So, is it the gulasch? 🤔
+1 for a mention of Michael Polyani. His work on "tacit knowledge" is fascinating.
Very important video
It might not be a sufficient justification, but it should be noted that Horthy's numerus clausus law (the limiting of the number of Jewish students in universities) was a direct result of the treaty of Trianon. While many of the country's cultural institutions, including schools and universities were torn away, it also resulted in about 4-500 thousand refugees fleeing the mistreatment in the neighboring successor states. These two combined have put a noticeable strain on post-ww1 Hungary's educational system, so the numerus clausus was just as much a law for the Hungarian students as it was against the Jews. It shows how one unfair event can lead down to a spiral of other injustices.
Great video, thanks for the work.
I have heard that the education system in India 🇮🇳 is the opposite: learning a lot of formulas by heart. That’s why they fail in engineering despite having genius level IIT universities.
China failed for a very long time. Now they are at least excellent in bridge construction.
We in Switzerland 🇨🇭 were closer to the Hungarian 🇭🇺 system in mathematics. However our physics teacher from AUSTRIA 🇦🇹 was a desaster! (When he thought mathematics or programming this ended in disasters too).
india seems like a giant school sometimes
Learning HOW things were discovered is just as important as learning WHAT has been discovered.
What a lovely video. Not too long and not too short, the video transitions and editing is top notch!!! Well done and you've gained a sub
Thx a lot 😊
@newsthink we loove your videos so much, they're really inspiring🧡🧡💛💛💚💚💙💙❤❤❤❤
As I wrote in another comment a month ago: "...the Einstein-Szilard letter from August 1939 didn't cause much action in the US. The immediate consequences were a relatively small research program. In fact, it was the Frisch-Peierls memorandum from March 1940 (which in historical review already contained the schematic of a blueprint for the gun-type design of the atomic bomb) which led to the activity of the MAUD committee and the Tube Alloys project in the UK later on, way before the start of the Manhattan project. And it was Mark Oliphant (a guy from Australia, who was a member of the MAUD committee and who then primarily worked on the new RADAR technology, and who finally got lucky to have Rudolf Peierls sitting nearby in the same building (who could solve one or two difficult problems for Oliphant - despite the fact that Peierls and Frisch didn't posses security clearance at that time ;-)) visiting the US in August 1941 who reminded the scientific community in the US about the existence of the MAUD committee report. That report had been sent to the US before, but Lyman Briggs (director of the US Uranium Committee) had put that report into his safe. And had not shown it to any member of his own committee. There was meeting then on 26th of August 1941 with Mark Oliphant and the Uranium Committee to discuss the issue. Finally, Oliphant met with his friend Ernest Lawrence on September 23th in Berkeley, where Lawrence did receive a copy of the Frisch-Peierls memorandum. And Lawrence then informed Robert Oppenheimer to check the figures. But this it not the end of the story. Mark Oliphant convinced Ernest Lawrence to convert his 37-inch cyclotron into a giant mass spectrometer for electromagnetic isotope separation. So, in the end, it was some guy from Australia and not the the (first) Einstein-Szilard letter who caused the action. ..."
Thanks for clarifications....
There's a picture of Feynman in there. He's from Rockaway.
I love hearing that letter signing wasn't neither a accident, nor a attempt to steal glory, but a fully tactical choice so the higher ups would take notice
Congratulations for this summary, with all the knowledge painfully missed from the recent Hollywood film. Rátz László should have received a recognition, since his students invented the two most proliferic invention of the last century, nuclear power and computers. Notwithstanding, maybe the two most devastating could become, if not used with control and good purpose.
Hungary is based and not politically correct they just do what has to be done.
Poland has many geniuses too
had this question in mind for some time now, thank you for the answer
Great insightful video. Wish we could do this with the public schools in the US. Imagine your r that would change the way we moved as a society.
US high school is the best. It’s a dual edge sword where nerds can be so nerdy and musicians only need to care about music. But that produces the best talents
@@Tay-ho6sg you better back that up with some citations , spamming this comment under every comment aint gonna help solidify that blank statement .
I love this videos, they tell of how geniuses were formed.
It is not about either Hungary, Göttingen in Germany in past or USA in today, it 's all about either Jewish descendants or not. It's true that there are so many non-jewish great scientists. But this is atleast true for most theoretical scientists. Today a major reason for USA to become the hub in scientific creation not because Americans are inherently intelligent, but immigration of Europian Jews from Europe to USA amidst WW2.
Just search the background of greatest living theoretical physicsts like Wittten , Glashow , Weinberg[recently died] , Susskind ,Alan Guth , David Gross etc; They all are Americans by the nationality. But they all have Jewish roots.
Exactly 😎👍
Ya this is kinda funny how it talks about Hungarian scientists but missing the fact that majority of them (and definitely the most prominent) were Jewish, which is why there was also a mass of prominent Jewish scientists in Germany, Austria, Swiss and many more European countries
And America continues by attracting the top talent from China, India, Africa, etc, rather than building schools, right? 😮
And what about british scientific geniuses Newton, Maxwell, Alan Turing, Faraday, Darwin Stephen hawking these are not have any root to Jewish
@@Marcelgrossman 'most theoretical scientists' doesn't mean everyone. Most countries have atleast one or two elite level scientists even though they are not jewish. But compared to #nobels,field ,Abel and other medals / total population anyone can realize jewish laurettes/ Jewish population much higher than the british Laurettes / british population. [Small correction. Darwin is a biologist and Hawking is not in the elite level of Einstein , Heisenberg etc; even though general public compare him to Einstein.
If we talk Horthy, it is important to mention the disastrous "Tanácsköztársaság" (Hungarian Soviet Republic) that mercifully only lasted 133 days (March 21st 1919 to August 1st 1919). Horthy took power only at March 1st 1920, and who knows whether he would have appeared on stage at all if the "Tanácsköztársaság" would not have happened!
still need to watch the video but misstake at 00:02 the second bottom picture from the right is richard feynman he was born in queen yet you were showing him together with scientists from europe, but tbh its just a small misstake
This is great achievement I am in an under developing nation so we need your support don't hesitate teach us more skills, thankyou.
NOTE : the one of humanitys greatest device where whirten on the budapests islands sands first, that is how the legend goes.
수천년간 박해를 당한 유대민족은 문화 학술 상업에 종사하면서 뛰어난 사람만 지속적으로 살아남고 안정적으로 살던 다른 민족보다 더 빠르게 지적자본을 창출한듯.우주에도 여러 지적생명체 민족이 있겠지만 혹독한 핵재앙 전염병테러 지적 시뮬레이션 테러 등등을 견디고 생명체 단위로 살아남았다면 뭐든지 할 수 있을거임.
I appreciate the making of this great video as a Hungarian!
The flag shown at approx. 0:10 is NOT Hungarian but Italian flag! Hungarian flag is Red-White and Green...Not the other way around.
Baghdad's house of wisdom
Britain's Royal Society
French academy of sciences
Hungarian minta gymnasium
There is always an institution for every golden age of science
Takshashila was the first and will always be that way
@@vaibhavkrupakar240 Agreed. By the way, I am also from India. But I respect all institutions and peoples who contributed to science and the development of human society. There's a quote by Luis Pasteur "Science doesn't know any country, because the knowledge belongs to humanity". And I strongly support this quote.
Our Heritage is Here!
0:02 Feynman (bottom row, third from left) was born in New York City, his accent was Bronx. Not quite a martian.
So many great scientists LEFT Hungary.
A bit of a slight rewrite about how in open arms America was to Jews in the ww1-ww2 era. Jews were still very much discriminated at the time. Including universities. Maybe renowned scientists could have some weight. But students were not given places at prestigious universities. MIT has such an output of notable Jewish alumni because they weren't able to get into Harvard.
I went to college in early 70s(in U.S.) ... the school had eliminated fraternities only a decade before, because they were discriminatory
Add to the list Two Minute Papers AI RUclipsr Dr. Károly "What a time to be alive!" Zsolnai-Fehér
Fun fact the inventor of the Rubik's cube Erno Rubik I from Hungary
In Hungary, the current school system is far inferior compared to the schools back then. Sadly those times are gone.
In consequences, most Hungarian people lost their respect for the schools. So it's not just emty complaining. The current school system needs radical changes, or will slowly rot away.
Average U.S. high school graduate vocabulary declined by half between 1970 and 2000....
So, I would like to know why this sort of teaching hasn't taken over as mainstream in Europe. We're still tested on how many details and formulas we can memorize for a fortnight
I like how people say that the hungarian education system was so good and now we want to swap it out becauseit is bad.
The brilliant Dr TS Szasz too
Good 😊👍
Richard Feynman in the group of Europeans called Martians because of their accent !!?? He was born and raised in NYC...
Unfortunately, American schools are prestigious in name only but not in reality.
That doesn't make sense given that the US has won most Nobels for scientific discoveries/Inventions and Fields medal for most mathematical discoveries/developments. Even if you remove immigrants from Europe or any other place that position remains the same.
Nonsense.
The US has a lot of mediocre schools, but net net it has probably the best overall educational system in the world.
US high school is the best. It’s a dual edge sword where nerds can be so nerdy and musicians only need to care about music. But that produces the best talents
Not at all. The US students are regularly in the first or second places in contests like the IMO, IPHO, ... China usually outperforms it but the US's holistic system is far better for the health of the students than what China has
Same with chinese schools!
Its all a scam. They barely actually output any real research anyways, its usually just slop
Except for two (Ratz and Heisenberg), each and every scientist mentioned in this video was Jewish (although some converted to Christianity). It wasn't the education system, it's just that Hungary had one of the largest Jewish communities in Europe at the time (I know the video mentions this factor, but it makes it seems like there are others with equal significance)
Thank you, was about to say that. Just looking at the Nobel prize laureates, you see a lot of full or partial Ashkenazi Jewish background, with the Slavic / Germanic / Finno-Ugric component being almost coincidental in that equation
So Hungary is the country that create scientists to make atomic bomb? So Hungary is the bomb maker!
@@Nikedemos why doesn't it say there jewish scientists instead of Hungary?
@@pikiwiki That's a great question and I wonder about it myself. I'm assuming the video is meant to appeal to the Hungarian viewers or those of Hungarian descent. We should ask the content creator!
You have hit something interresting !!!
Nick Szabo was born in America from Hungarian emigrant parents
The thing is Hungarians speak such a hard language that only geniuses are able to communicate there, and normal people die of hunger.
I'm really Hungary for knowledge!
It's a video about scientists. You're watching it, so you must have some interest in real science, yet leave a stupid, childish comment. 🤔
All were Hungary for Knowledge. When hell froze over, it was renamed Chile.
Love it
great thinkers come from countries where money isn't an obstacle to learning.
Look at their schools...they teach, not babysit.
Nobody mention the "paperclips"
Check on the math/science olympiad winners during the sixties and seventies
And yet the CAUSE of gravity escaped their competence. Discovered/ published in 2002 by a Canadian electrical engineer: Mark McCutcheon ; “The Final Theory: Rethinking Our Scientific Legacy “, for proper physics. The only genius I’m aware of.
2:40 creating the atomic bomb is not a praise worthy invention.
If the atmoic bomb was not invented, we would not have nuclear power and the other 50 years of the 20th century would have been much different and much more bloody.
true
When talking about Hungarian Jews, how can you leave out Paul Erdős. He was the most prolific mathematician with 1,500 mathematical papers published during his lifetime.
Romeo O. Romeo ✅
I'm watching from Hungary... Let's see! :) (Na nézzük csak!) .... jó kis mondás van 6:02-nél (good phrase).