Nice ride, there is a good reason why LS swaps into everything is common. first to understand this many people who know nothing about the legendary SBC need to know that its a extremely compact motor (doesn't take up much more space then a small I-4 engine) and it is a very light motor. Lighter then many modern DOHC all aluminum V-6 engines that are used. Then you have to understand that you can get them for super cheap and it has a insane aftermarket supported by 100,000,000+ engines made.
A degree or two of -camber improves grip in the corners, as the wheel leans over with the forces, and lays its entire width on the road, instead of just the outside edge. A bit of toe out on the front wheels helps the car get more angle, and slamming it lowers the CoG. It's all about performance. Plus it looks good.
i just did some hunting and found it online. did the full rebuild on my own. i added forged pistons and rods. did full valve job and springs on the head. Just getting it ready for turbo , for later.
Of course, a Ferrari 430 or F40 (I loooove the F40) sounds better than any 4 pot I've ever heard, but then, most Americans 'hate' the F40. The Mclaren Mercedes SLR sounded fab, a proper dirty growl, and the Morgan Aero 8 is rather lovely too, a very crisp note, but, I've found more I4s and I6s that sound better than more V8s. I usually hate Corvettes, I loathed my C5, but I heard one the other week that had been cammed, and revved to 8500, it sounded amazing in the upper reaches, crap low down.
Less horespower doesn't even matter that much. You just have narrower tyres to match and you can have just as much fun. Also, the smaller internal mass gives much better throttle response, and it just sounds better.
Beast, all of the dislikes are these "hella-flush" aka "hella-gay" kids that think that having negative camber and toe, and wearing out your tires in 2 weeks is cool. The same kids who have their car lower in the back than the front lol, thank you for doing it right, beast car keep it up.
You can go to a wrecker and find an old wrecked camaro (1998-2002) and pull the engine, rebuild it and make some insane amounts of power for very cheap. For $5,000 you can get the LS1 NA up to 500BHP without the issues of turbocharging (remember this is a non VVT engine). These are just some of the reason why LS swaps are so common, you find them in Honda S2000, Mazda RX7, Mazda Miata, etc...... Porsche 911s.....
They are. It's just a different way of producing power. A supercharger too, is part of the engine. There is a reason for the N/A and T/C versions of the 2JZ.. Money. The N/A version went in the cheaper models. Both though, are splendid engines. It's not lack of familiarity that got me, (I maintain my own V12 Jag, which is far more complex, and my '72 V8 Land Rover, which is near enough the same as an LS) it was the sheer number and variety of faults that I hated.
awesome!!, i find any swaps interesting and its the actual work one who puts into there cars for their enjoyment is the key. if you have any links to a vid of your car i would love to see it!!
Because the engine we are putting in definitely makes 500hp. This car might actually have a V8 swap but from how to sounds and the way it performs I doubt it actually makes as much as he says it does.
Depends on where you live sir. As Conaghan has said... getting an LS engine is fairly easy and cheap here in america. Parts for LS engines are also cheap as Chevy put them in everything they had. Your aftermarket and our aftermarket are completely different. An MOST LS engine make 500hp on H/C/I combos. The 1jz or KA won't come close without a FI set up.
Yeah honestly I would like having an RB over a supercharged V8.. I just love RB26's for some reason, even if they weren't putting out as much power as a supercharged V8.
I've driven enough, and seen enough dyno readouts to know what I'm on about. Jaguars are very high quality vehicles, you are obviously stuck in 1976 when BL and Thatcher were ruining everything. Just look at the new XF, great looking, fast, even in dieselly form, rides beautifully, handles far better than a car that size should, is cheaper than its rivals, is better than its rivals, and has an annoyingly slow depreciation curve. I want one. One of only about three current cars I would buy.
The LS Engines are dumb reliable and make big power and stay hugely reliable. It's an awesome engine, yes it's a little outdated, pushrod head assembly. But remember back in the day the firebreathing 302 Z28 First Gen Camaro? It was a 8k rpm redline v8 beast that dominated the trans am series. Hopefully the next gen of GM motors will be 4v DOHC, HIGH TORQUE HP and RPM.
They are not idiots, just a different type of lifestyle and demands from the market. Americans love torque and straight lines, not so much High Revving Responsive engines and turns.
You said that the SR was rubbish, I was pointing out that, given the same displacement, a V8 would be equally rubbish. If I keep it sub 2500rpm, the turbo's barely doing anything, and, cruising, it gets 38mpg. Very long 5th. Depends what you mean by better. When drifting, I find a very flat power curve to be more difficult, because you can't vary power much by revs. Once you've got the turbo on boost it's easily predicatable, just so long as you keep it there. 3 Jags, a Landy and a dead 180SX
Nice lead headed arrow.. so much for the 50:50 weight distribution... What did you build it for? Is it even registered? I have a fully registered V8 (1uz-fe) S13 that ive dragged, drifted and about to hill climb in. I bet that would be a beast to drive though!!
The Rover V8 block is based on a Buick block. The engine is almost entirely different. Funny how one of the best and most popular V8s of all time, was found, by a Brit, abandoned by America as too small and too complex.
@BullRider74023 Dude, a fully dressed LS6 with man tran is less that 500lbs an SR20 with the same setup is 477lbs and remember the SR20 is lighter than a KA24 by 30 or so lbs. This is why the LSX swap is becoming more common, less weight than the stock motor with much better power/powerband and more potential at all stages.
mine is a 1993 nissan 240sx coupe. I got a VH45 in it. still just n/a , but still pulling 275 n/a hp. you should see the looks on mustang and camaro owners when i pass them. hahaha
How many 3.0 litre V8s are there that can make 2000bhp with fairly minimal effort? (i.e. simply bolting bigger turbos on, with lumpy cams, and a quick re map)
Well I was thinking of a Nissan V8 from an Infiniti pick-up truck. Parts aren't as accessible as the Chevy case, but it can't be as difficult as you describe.
They don't want to squeeze every inch of power out of the motor because that creates problems with reliability. And the motor is untouched with just a supercharger, if they wanted to build it, they could get 650+ rwhp down and still be semi-reliable, but this suits the drivers purposes.
No, you're right, An SR20 won't make 450hp. But nor would a 2.0 litre V8. No, You need what, 5-6 litres to make that much power. Plus, when I kept it off boost, I got 35-38mpg out of my little CA18DET powered 180SX, and 350bhp when I wanted to drift it. In adittion when you are on boost, the power curve is beautifully linear anyway, giving you, if anything, more control than the flatter curves of the big V8s. Plus, they're easier and cheaper to mend, and the sound actually suits the car.
@2002turbo I know you're probably not going to respond, but do you buy/order the engine or you have to get the engine from a used car? And, if you do get the engine, can any worthy auto-mechanic do the swap, or does he need to be an absolute boss mechanic to fit a beastly V8 somewhere an in-line 6/V6 use to be?
The cheap Chevy parts are a dime a dozen. You get into the LS engines, it gets expensive quick. Not saying they're not good engines, but damn they're expensive. I'd rather just get a 5.0 out of a mustang or thunderbird, but I wouldn't use the T-5 they came with though they definitely suck no question about it lol. The 5.0 swap is just so much more affordable for pretty much the same result and it also has a lot of room for upgrades and is a VERY STRONG PLATFORM for racing, just my 2 cents :)
Yeah, it's two litres, which is big for a 4 banger, plus the turbo. It's a lot of work to do that, but not as much a removing the SR, then buying and re installing a V8, that you'd then have to modify anyway. Bigger Turbo, intercooler, re-map, bigger valves, agressive cam, forged internals (won't help bhp, but it's peace of mind, 600hp is alot) People have got 8-900 bhp from engines of this size, those people are idiots, but they did it. Besides, you only really ever need 450bhp at the most.
its built for road raacing, and its just about 50/50, people forget that an LS is a 128 lbs lighter then a KA and only a few pounds more then a SR. No its not registered, i have no need for that.. i have a comfy E63 AMG benz as my daily look at my other video....
One last Q. JZ or RB. They look almost the same, but which is actually faster (with equal modding of course). JZ's sound nice (especially open down pipe "grrrrrommm!!!") . I love how RB's bang and backfire often (Bad fuckin' ass).
Tellin' ya' the truth I only fancy V8's because of the sound. The only sound that can rival a v8's is an inline 6 at low RPM's. But the root of all this goes back to me jus' wanting a car that is faster than the other guy's but it'll be nice to scare a few when I overtake with that V8 noise "Rrrrraaaaawwww!!!". I think I'll jus' go for a 2JZ or RB25DET. Don't get me wrong, Sr's sound awesome but they lack that roar.
Most definitely, however maybe you don't understand that it's not really that cheap to drop an engine in a different make car. Of course you can give me quick prices, engine/box 2k, mounts 300, loom 300 bits and pieces all up 3k, then add up all the things you missed in your initial calculations and you end up with a 10k bill. Some people don't have the means or more importantly the need for such a car, so a mildly worked and well balanced 4cyl will still rape on the track.
@xcalic3600 uhhh you mean a 4 cylinder used to be. The 240 never came with a inline 6 or v6. There is a lot of custom work to be done. Or you can buy kits that have mounts, cross members etc already made up. May need to beat the tranny tunnel a little bit. Do research.
Yes, but if I can use a 4 litre inline six, and make nearly the same power as a 7 litre V8, I'll also use less fuel, have a lighter more reliable engine (because there's simply less to go wrong) and it'll make a better noise. What's the point in 'potential'. Potential does nothing for performance, potential is just wasted space. The other plus side of a smaller, more specifically powerful engine is that it fits in a smaller space/ is lighter, which is good for acceleration, handling and braking.
As much as I love V8's and agree with the raw power of the V8 it's just not as challenging as getting a 4 or 6cyl to put out rediculous horsepower. This is one of the reasons we have tuners these days.
@keyrabuns69 I'm sorry, but I am using goggle in an attempt to figure out the workings of this thing. I'm more thinking about swapping a V8 into an S15 Silvia. But if it's that much trouble, I'll just get an RB.
I think a small block chevy 350 would better qualify as a very strong platform for racing before a ford 5.0, it was only the most commonly used motor for that back in the day
The UK has a 3 litre V10 that gets over 800hp. Cosworth CK. From just three litres... and it can spin at well over 10K rpm safely like most of their other engines. Problem with that is price. Every single component is hand polished to a mirror finish and the whole engine is assembled manually, built for Formula 1. Americans need to get away from the obsession with big engines + bolt-ons.
There is something about the rumble of an American engine that turns me on. So many ricer douches slap a 6" exhaust onto their 4 banger honda and it doesn't give anywhere close to the same effect
I'm 26, contractually obliged to decline to directly connect my opinions, however learned, to my magazine. , and I have a rather decent social life. Choosing to buy petrol and beer over a shiny new video camera makes me a liar, does it? My comments are fact, and fact based opinion. If you see them as negative, that's your fault entirely. I've been in rather too many Mercs for my liking. I like GOOD cars. Older cars just happen to be good and cheap to buy.
Insane aftermarket support that leaves you spending three days and 400miles looking for one small bit of the ignition system for a C5 'Vette. Yeah, that's really great, isn't it. (Clue; No, it isn't) Plus, if you don't happen to live right on top of one, they do actually cost an absolute bomb to buy. £3-4000. That's the cost of importing an entire, mint, S14 from Japan. Why do you think there are so many made? Because they die far too quickly.
I'm not saying that one engine is better than another or anything like that, personally I hate the LS Series of engines, they are too outdated for my liking, Same with ford although they do have the DOHC 5.4l which is a pretty decent engine. I really want American designers to create an absolute monster, 9000rpm, high torque, high horsepower, super reliable, and cheap parts. Whatever country develops that, with 28+mpg, I will accept them as my god.
yes i know, that does make sense. but to me the point of buying a car that is slow from factory, is to build it from the ground up and take your time with it. not just slap a freakin v8 in it and be done with it. just not my style. but any ways, to each his own i guess.
@impala987 i agree that a v8 may sound better, but i promise i could keep that thing all nissan and make more power than this one. VG30DETT, 6 Speed 350 z trans, TT 300zx rear end. and two Garrett GT4088 Turbos. plus alot of other things i dont feal like listing right now.
Americans are far more focused on torque and easy power, if they really wanted to engineer a great engine I believe they could but for the most etc. etc. it is one of the most versatile motors used from Trucks to Saloon cars. They are not idiots, they just choose to focus on different elements than Europeans. It's a difference of cultures, not one person is superior and the other is an idiot. And also In every junkyard in america is a LSX based motor, so it's easy
to find these and they are cheap to produce. If they really wanted I believe they could build an ultra responsive sub 5 liter V8, but Americans like big bulky torquey engines,
Obviously you don't get out much. For the same displacement, you will get more power from an I6 or a V12 than from a V8. You'll also get more torque. For half the displacement, from a turbo I4, you'll still get better figures. V8s are a compromise that doesn't pay off. What the VW's prove is that small engines can beat larger ones, so long as they're clever. Large capacity V8s have always been the perfect American engine, they're just like you. Muscle and shouting over brains and intelligence.
The turbos are NOT part of the engine. There is a reason there is a 2jz-GE and a 2jZ-GTE...I assure GE has a higher compression ratio than the other and i BET you it uses cheapers rods, pistons, etc. that will pop long before the GTE. Second, how long do you think OHV has been around here in America? How long do you think CHEVY has been here? They throw a damn LS engine on almost anything with 4 wheels. We are familiar with it here...cause it is an old ancient design.
well i think a 6 cylinder in line such as a skyline r34 gt-r would do a better job, in my opinion, believe me put a inline 6 in a 240sx with a turbo and its gonna own the shit outta this v8. as i said it is only my opinion...
£3000 for an LS is NOT cheap. NOT. The V8 layout has numerous balance and timing issues. The exhausts are impossible to tune correctly, that's why V8s lope. The I6 is the smallest perfect configuration, (i.e. you can balance every part of the cycle) it also has superior torque by capacity, and better power by capacity. The I6 has been the pure performance engine of choice for over a century, from Jags to BMWs, to Nissans, to Alfa Romeos! V8s are complicated, and lack the dynamics of the I6.
no 4 banger will ever sound as good as a v8
ever
Nice ride, there is a good reason why LS swaps into everything is common. first to understand this many people who know nothing about the legendary SBC need to know that its a extremely compact motor (doesn't take up much more space then a small I-4 engine) and it is a very light motor. Lighter then many modern DOHC all aluminum V-6 engines that are used. Then you have to understand that you can get them for super cheap and it has a insane aftermarket supported by 100,000,000+ engines made.
A degree or two of -camber improves grip in the corners, as the wheel leans over with the forces, and lays its entire width on the road, instead of just the outside edge. A bit of toe out on the front wheels helps the car get more angle, and slamming it lowers the CoG. It's all about performance.
Plus it looks good.
Sick coupe cant wait till i get mine
NICE LS1/6 rotating assemblies are well into the 3-4000 range.
Sweet build... My coupe is about the same color as yours! Space Gray is the ONLY way!!! xD
I would love to drive that thing!
i just did some hunting and found it online. did the full rebuild on my own. i added forged pistons and rods. did full valve job and springs on the head. Just getting it ready for turbo , for later.
Of course, a Ferrari 430 or F40 (I loooove the F40) sounds better than any 4 pot I've ever heard, but then, most Americans 'hate' the F40. The Mclaren Mercedes SLR sounded fab, a proper dirty growl, and the Morgan Aero 8 is rather lovely too, a very crisp note, but, I've found more I4s and I6s that sound better than more V8s. I usually hate Corvettes, I loathed my C5, but I heard one the other week that had been cammed, and revved to 8500, it sounded amazing in the upper reaches, crap low down.
were you expecting the horsepower to fly out the exhaust or something? i cant tell your just a dreamer !!!
Less horespower doesn't even matter that much. You just have narrower tyres to match and you can have just as much fun. Also, the smaller internal mass gives much better throttle response, and it just sounds better.
Beast, all of the dislikes are these "hella-flush" aka "hella-gay" kids that think that having negative camber and toe, and wearing out your tires in 2 weeks is cool. The same kids who have their car lower in the back than the front lol, thank you for doing it right, beast car keep it up.
You can go to a wrecker and find an old wrecked camaro (1998-2002) and pull the engine, rebuild it and make some insane amounts of power for very cheap. For $5,000 you can get the LS1 NA up to 500BHP without the issues of turbocharging (remember this is a non VVT engine).
These are just some of the reason why LS swaps are so common, you find them in Honda S2000, Mazda RX7, Mazda Miata, etc...... Porsche 911s.....
They are. It's just a different way of producing power. A supercharger too, is part of the engine.
There is a reason for the N/A and T/C versions of the 2JZ.. Money. The N/A version went in the cheaper models. Both though, are splendid engines.
It's not lack of familiarity that got me, (I maintain my own V12 Jag, which is far more complex, and my '72 V8 Land Rover, which is near enough the same as an LS) it was the sheer number and variety of faults that I hated.
awesome!!, i find any swaps interesting and its the actual work one who puts into there cars for their enjoyment is the key. if you have any links to a vid of your car i would love to see it!!
Because the engine we are putting in definitely makes 500hp. This car might actually have a V8 swap but from how to sounds and the way it performs I doubt it actually makes as much as he says it does.
sounds crazy.
Depends on where you live sir. As Conaghan has said... getting an LS engine is fairly easy and cheap here in america. Parts for LS engines are also cheap as Chevy put them in everything they had. Your aftermarket and our aftermarket are completely different. An MOST LS engine make 500hp on H/C/I combos. The 1jz or KA won't come close without a FI set up.
Yeah honestly I would like having an RB over a supercharged V8.. I just love RB26's for some reason, even if they weren't putting out as much power as a supercharged V8.
I've driven enough, and seen enough dyno readouts to know what I'm on about.
Jaguars are very high quality vehicles, you are obviously stuck in 1976 when BL and Thatcher were ruining everything. Just look at the new XF, great looking, fast, even in dieselly form, rides beautifully, handles far better than a car that size should, is cheaper than its rivals, is better than its rivals, and has an annoyingly slow depreciation curve.
I want one. One of only about three current cars I would buy.
The LS Engines are dumb reliable and make big power and stay hugely reliable. It's an awesome engine, yes it's a little outdated, pushrod head assembly. But remember back in the day the firebreathing 302 Z28 First Gen Camaro? It was a 8k rpm redline v8 beast that dominated the trans am series. Hopefully the next gen of GM motors will be 4v DOHC, HIGH TORQUE HP and RPM.
They are not idiots, just a different type of lifestyle and demands from the market. Americans love torque and straight lines, not so much High Revving Responsive engines and turns.
You said that the SR was rubbish, I was pointing out that, given the same displacement, a V8 would be equally rubbish.
If I keep it sub 2500rpm, the turbo's barely doing anything, and, cruising, it gets 38mpg. Very long 5th.
Depends what you mean by better. When drifting, I find a very flat power curve to be more difficult, because you can't vary power much by revs. Once you've got the turbo on boost it's easily predicatable, just so long as you keep it there.
3 Jags, a Landy and a dead 180SX
Nice lead headed arrow.. so much for the 50:50 weight distribution... What did you build it for? Is it even registered? I have a fully registered V8 (1uz-fe) S13 that ive dragged, drifted and about to hill climb in. I bet that would be a beast to drive though!!
The Rover V8 block is based on a Buick block. The engine is almost entirely different.
Funny how one of the best and most popular V8s of all time, was found, by a Brit, abandoned by America as too small and too complex.
Awesome
thank you
u ever hear the vh45s they put in these 240's sound amazing
@BullRider74023 Dude, a fully dressed LS6 with man tran is less that 500lbs an SR20 with the same setup is 477lbs and remember the SR20 is lighter than a KA24 by 30 or so lbs. This is why the LSX swap is becoming more common, less weight than the stock motor with much better power/powerband and more potential at all stages.
mine is a 1993 nissan 240sx coupe. I got a VH45 in it. still just n/a , but still pulling 275 n/a hp.
you should see the looks on mustang and camaro owners when i pass them. hahaha
How many 3.0 litre V8s are there that can make 2000bhp with fairly minimal effort? (i.e. simply bolting bigger turbos on, with lumpy cams, and a quick re map)
Beast..
Well I was thinking of a Nissan V8 from an Infiniti pick-up truck. Parts aren't as accessible as the Chevy case, but it can't be as difficult as you describe.
They don't want to squeeze every inch of power out of the motor because that creates problems with reliability. And the motor is untouched with just a supercharger, if they wanted to build it, they could get 650+ rwhp down and still be semi-reliable, but this suits the drivers purposes.
Sweet, still just weird hearing a v8 rumble from a 240.
1.8 litres, 4 cylinders. Faster than a 7 litre ZO6. That's the Lotus Exige.
i have a 1991 s13 coupe.Where did you find a VH45 motor? I think that was from the mid 90's Infiniti Q45
No, you're right, An SR20 won't make 450hp. But nor would a 2.0 litre V8. No, You need what, 5-6 litres to make that much power. Plus, when I kept it off boost, I got 35-38mpg out of my little CA18DET powered 180SX, and 350bhp when I wanted to drift it.
In adittion when you are on boost, the power curve is beautifully linear anyway, giving you, if anything, more control than the flatter curves of the big V8s.
Plus, they're easier and cheaper to mend, and the sound actually suits the car.
very niiice
@2002turbo I know you're probably not going to respond, but do you buy/order the engine or you have to get the engine from a used car? And, if you do get the engine, can any worthy auto-mechanic do the swap, or does he need to be an absolute boss mechanic to fit a beastly V8 somewhere an in-line 6/V6 use to be?
The cheap Chevy parts are a dime a dozen. You get into the LS engines, it gets expensive quick. Not saying they're not good engines, but damn they're expensive. I'd rather just get a 5.0 out of a mustang or thunderbird, but I wouldn't use the T-5 they came with though they definitely suck no question about it lol. The 5.0 swap is just so much more affordable for pretty much the same result and it also has a lot of room for upgrades and is a VERY STRONG PLATFORM for racing, just my 2 cents :)
@jmadd9000 it handles great, yup its all aluminum so overall i dropped the weigh of the car by 128 lbs. i use this as my track car
and remember a skyline more is around 730 lbs to a LS which is 428 lbs
Yeah, it's two litres, which is big for a 4 banger, plus the turbo. It's a lot of work to do that, but not as much a removing the SR, then buying and re installing a V8, that you'd then have to modify anyway. Bigger Turbo, intercooler, re-map, bigger valves, agressive cam, forged internals (won't help bhp, but it's peace of mind, 600hp is alot) People have got 8-900 bhp from engines of this size, those people are idiots, but they did it.
Besides, you only really ever need 450bhp at the most.
its built for road raacing, and its just about 50/50, people forget that an LS is a 128 lbs lighter then a KA and only a few pounds more then a SR. No its not registered, i have no need for that.. i have a comfy E63 AMG benz as my daily look at my other video....
@SR20tony dual 3" with x-pipe, longtubes and magnaflow mufflers
One last Q. JZ or RB. They look almost the same, but which is actually faster (with equal modding of course). JZ's sound nice (especially open down pipe "grrrrrommm!!!") . I love how RB's bang and backfire often (Bad fuckin' ass).
did this car pass smog when u had it? im wondering cuz im up in norcal
Tellin' ya' the truth I only fancy V8's because of the sound. The only sound that can rival a v8's is an inline 6 at low RPM's. But the root of all this goes back to me jus' wanting a car that is faster than the other guy's but it'll be nice to scare a few when I overtake with that V8 noise "Rrrrraaaaawwww!!!". I think I'll jus' go for a 2JZ or RB25DET. Don't get me wrong, Sr's sound awesome but they lack that roar.
It's not weird logic, it's arbitrary logic.
so you pretty much took the driveline and engine out of a gto? rear end as well?
No I mean an absolutely Brutal V8. lots of torque like the American Motors but with Eruopean Revability.
Erm, Japan, Italy, Germany, Britain... Sweden, all produce engines like that.
Most definitely, however maybe you don't understand that it's not really that cheap to drop an engine in a different make car. Of course you can give me quick prices, engine/box 2k, mounts 300, loom 300 bits and pieces all up 3k, then add up all the things you missed in your initial calculations and you end up with a 10k bill. Some people don't have the means or more importantly the need for such a car, so a mildly worked and well balanced 4cyl will still rape on the track.
@xcalic3600 uhhh you mean a 4 cylinder used to be. The 240 never came with a inline 6 or v6. There is a lot of custom work to be done. Or you can buy kits that have mounts, cross members etc already made up. May need to beat the tranny tunnel a little bit. Do research.
Yes, but if I can use a 4 litre inline six, and make nearly the same power as a 7 litre V8, I'll also use less fuel, have a lighter more reliable engine (because there's simply less to go wrong) and it'll make a better noise. What's the point in 'potential'. Potential does nothing for performance, potential is just wasted space. The other plus side of a smaller, more specifically powerful engine is that it fits in a smaller space/ is lighter, which is good for acceleration, handling and braking.
this is the future of my s13 except a 350hp ls1 is good enough for me
As much as I love V8's and agree with the raw power of the V8 it's just not as challenging as getting a 4 or 6cyl to put out rediculous horsepower. This is one of the reasons we have tuners these days.
Nah man, the SR20DET is a cracking engine. For the cost fo a 350bhp V8 engine, you could mod the SR to 5-600bhp.
@keyrabuns69 I'm sorry, but I am using goggle in an attempt to figure out the workings of this thing. I'm more thinking about swapping a V8 into an S15 Silvia. But if it's that much trouble, I'll just get an RB.
I'm not sure what engine the Nissan Titan uses, but either a Nissan VH or VK engine would be a good choice.
I think a small block chevy 350 would better qualify as a very strong platform for racing before a ford 5.0, it was only the most commonly used motor for that back in the day
is this atwater?
what does race have to do with that?
williow springs?
@NANDOO723 it really depends on how crazy you wana go lol, i think it can be done as low as $5000 ..... i spent a lot from because i added few extras
@TopGamingKingz but this setup weight is only 2500 lbs with 500+ hp and works great as my road race car!!
U need to tag along when I go drifting dude
shit that costs. was it a corvette engine? what other engine can be put in a 240 besides sr20 and rb ?
@KSIxSnoopx thank you !!!! lol kids never learn !!!
The UK has a 3 litre V10 that gets over 800hp. Cosworth CK. From just three litres... and it can spin at well over 10K rpm safely like most of their other engines. Problem with that is price. Every single component is hand polished to a mirror finish and the whole engine is assembled manually, built for Formula 1. Americans need to get away from the obsession with big engines + bolt-ons.
agreed...and for half the price he spent
There is something about the rumble of an American engine that turns me on. So many ricer douches slap a 6" exhaust onto their 4 banger honda and it doesn't give anywhere close to the same effect
@310jessefilm thanks!!!
what exaust setup are you running?
i agree but the only way ill have a 5.0 is if its in a fox body mustang. i wouldnt put it anywhere else.
I'm 26, contractually obliged to decline to directly connect my opinions, however learned, to my magazine. , and I have a rather decent social life.
Choosing to buy petrol and beer over a shiny new video camera makes me a liar, does it?
My comments are fact, and fact based opinion. If you see them as negative, that's your fault entirely. I've been in rather too many Mercs for my liking.
I like GOOD cars. Older cars just happen to be good and cheap to buy.
what year is your car body
not enough to make me think finding one in a junkyard is likely.
fuck s13 coupes are so sick
2k for a built ls6? i wish it was that cheap, hes probably close to 4k into that motor. I could be wrong tho
keep in mind the power to weight ratio.
Insane aftermarket support that leaves you spending three days and 400miles looking for one small bit of the ignition system for a C5 'Vette. Yeah, that's really great, isn't it. (Clue; No, it isn't)
Plus, if you don't happen to live right on top of one, they do actually cost an absolute bomb to buy. £3-4000. That's the cost of importing an entire, mint, S14 from Japan.
Why do you think there are so many made? Because they die far too quickly.
I'm not saying that one engine is better than another or anything like that, personally I hate the LS Series of engines, they are too outdated for my liking, Same with ford although they do have the DOHC 5.4l which is a pretty decent engine. I really want American designers to create an absolute monster, 9000rpm, high torque, high horsepower, super reliable, and cheap parts. Whatever country develops that, with 28+mpg, I will accept them as my god.
Obviously you've never seen an AMG lump. They've had over 1000 lb.ft out of their big V12.
@jspahn420 If it not being Nissan is the issue, use a VH or VK V-8...
yes i know, that does make sense. but to me the point of buying a car that is slow from factory, is to build it from the ground up and take your time with it. not just slap a freakin v8 in it and be done with it. just not my style. but any ways, to each his own i guess.
@impala987 i agree that a v8 may sound better, but i promise i could keep that thing all nissan and make more power than this one. VG30DETT, 6 Speed 350 z trans, TT 300zx rear end. and two Garrett GT4088 Turbos. plus alot of other things i dont feal like listing right now.
I dunno, a 5 litre V12 is probably about as long as an RB, and people RB 240's all the time.
With a bit of jiggling, you probably could.
5000 for a ls6?
extra lightweight wheels.
@TheOmegaeyes lol no its not wierd at all lol sounds so right
Americans are far more focused on torque and easy power, if they really wanted to engineer a great engine I believe they could but for the most etc. etc. it is one of the most versatile motors used from Trucks to Saloon cars. They are not idiots, they just choose to focus on different elements than Europeans. It's a difference of cultures, not one person is superior and the other is an idiot. And also In every junkyard in america is a LSX based motor, so it's easy
to find these and they are cheap to produce. If they really wanted I believe they could build an ultra responsive sub 5 liter V8, but Americans like big bulky torquey engines,
Gonna keep the pop up headlights
Obviously you don't get out much. For the same displacement, you will get more power from an I6 or a V12 than from a V8. You'll also get more torque. For half the displacement, from a turbo I4, you'll still get better figures. V8s are a compromise that doesn't pay off.
What the VW's prove is that small engines can beat larger ones, so long as they're clever.
Large capacity V8s have always been the perfect American engine, they're just like you. Muscle and shouting over brains and intelligence.
You wanna see a real beast. Stay tuned to my channel and follow the progress of a real 500hp engine swap.
The turbos are NOT part of the engine. There is a reason there is a 2jz-GE and a 2jZ-GTE...I assure GE has a higher compression ratio than the other and i BET you it uses cheapers rods, pistons, etc. that will pop long before the GTE. Second, how long do you think OHV has been around here in America? How long do you think CHEVY has been here? They throw a damn LS engine on almost anything with 4 wheels. We are familiar with it here...cause it is an old ancient design.
well i think a 6 cylinder in line such as a skyline r34 gt-r would do a better job, in my opinion, believe me put a inline 6 in a 240sx with a turbo and its gonna own the shit outta this v8. as i said it is only my opinion...
£3000 for an LS is NOT cheap. NOT.
The V8 layout has numerous balance and timing issues. The exhausts are impossible to tune correctly, that's why V8s lope.
The I6 is the smallest perfect configuration, (i.e. you can balance every part of the cycle) it also has superior torque by capacity, and better power by capacity.
The I6 has been the pure performance engine of choice for over a century, from Jags to BMWs, to Nissans, to Alfa Romeos!
V8s are complicated, and lack the dynamics of the I6.