Stephen Holmes - How Democracies Die
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Stephen Holmes, Professor of Law at New York University, speaking on 9 March 2017 at the launch of the Graduate Institute’s Albert Hirschman Centre on Democracy
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Well some folks have accepted the end of democracy in the US and others are actively working towards the effecting of that end.
There is only one way democracy dies, or any other possible systems similar or not and such a way has not changed, nor will it.
Three tests which the process has to go through periodically in order to be a democracy have to be compromised, made redundant, irrelevant or disappear.
One is the money, wealth and resources, in regards to the process and the system the process regards to.
Two is principles, opinions, promises, talk's, debates, ideology etc etc with a modern addition which takes from all more or less known as free press.
Three is the highest levels of knowledge, intelligence and wisdom, a system undergoing the democratic process periodically, possessing with and within it as a system.
The aim consciously or unconsciously is to make voting irrelevant, redundant and disappearing as a finality. Bringing the need for a system resembling democracy yet not being a democracy, such a system will have all the amenities of a democracy without the periodically voting part.
That is only the burial of democracy, as it's death would have occurred long before that.
Why would people continue to vote if and when democracy is long dead...!?! Is a question. Hope, hope that it will resurrect before it is buried as a finality.
For that to happen all that which has been compromised, made redundant, irrelevant or disappeared has to give way, as a consequence of that democracy I believe is as good as it never was.
There is always hope, always.
Good lecture
he literally predicts how the Trump admin. would mishandle the Covid crisis by breaking up the emergency reaction capacity of the government for short-term political gain
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If anyone out there knows of a nation run truly as a Democracy then please enlighten the rest of us.
There is none, that would be mob rule. O don't think anyone is making that claim?
yes, the city-state of Athens. It's last decision was a plebiscite on a war of aggression against a stronger foe; Sparta. That started the Peloponnesian war, and Athens ended up occupied. Apart from the Council of 500, it was plebiscites, or referendums, on everything. Ooops! Granted, about 80% of the population weren't citizens, but for the sake of it, yes. ONE country in history was. And it proved fatal. So it makes sense to have a mixture of delegated authority to elected officials and maybe occasionally referendums. But with a constitution applying limits, a Bill of Rights, etc.
@@MrRedcarpet02 Thanks for your interest and reply. I was already aware of the ancient Greek oriigins of the sort of democracy but my question is regarding the 21st century AD rather than the 6th century BC.
P. S. I am not a historian so always appreciate feedback.
@@GETJUSTICE4U hi there. We all accept that every society has a democratic deficit. So logically the liberal democracies in the world have the small ones, whereas the Global South composed of tyrannies have very large ones, like 90% undemocratic, with that last 10% portion of political power fraudulent democratic institutions to pretend there's democracy. So nowadays, I mean maybe Switzerland and others with the referendum option available could be said to be closest.
Go to to China or to Russia and you'll know !!!
A better way than our democracy? What do you propose?
That's subjective and is up to the public to decide. Not him.
How about constitutional republicanism? ....with a strictly limited government. "The government that governs best is the one that governs least" (Jefferson)
@@zorkhun1657 that can mean deadlock, esp. If the main opposition party like the GOP under Obama, decides to be obstructive even if it agrees with the executive's ideas.
@@zorkhun1657 That is the perfect ideology for Kleptocratic corporatocracies. You know, like the world since Reagan and Trump.
Clue; Milton Friedman's distopian empire where the only responsibility of business is maximising profits regardless of the damage to global society and the environment.
Read books like John Perkins "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man", Oliver Bullough's book "Money Land", Noreena Hertz "The Silent Takeover", etc, etc.........
@@MrRedcarpet02 what ideas of his did the GOP agree with?
Really disgusting when Holmes casually belittles brexit voters, and people by and large who participate in democratic elections. Referring to the "little" causes for democracy's supposed downfall. The little people who don't really "understand what they're voting for". And you wonder why there's such distain for the likes of Holmes who regularly wrote for The New Republic during the W Bush years. Now I know the real reason why this guy had an axe to grind against Christopher Lasch.
Meanwhile in Davos - panel on political correctness (non whites arguing against it).