Never Gonna Give You Up - Instrumental remake

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

Комментарии • 83

  • @LemonDrip
    @LemonDrip Год назад +9

    HOLY FRICK THOSE TOMS-

    • @teaspoon1987
      @teaspoon1987 7 месяцев назад +3

      Fr

    • @darijoy2010
      @darijoy2010 7 месяцев назад

      @@teaspoon1987lomen

    • @Sentrzol
      @Sentrzol 3 месяца назад

      @@teaspoon1987U WERE HERE TOO? I WAS HEAR IN 2022 WHEN I WAS A HUGE FAN OF RICK ASTLEY

  • @aero5568
    @aero5568 Год назад +3

    2:07 I like this sound, my favorite instrument sound/patch of all time

    • @albert.2848
      @albert.2848 5 месяцев назад

      This sound of Stock Aitken Waterman 🤘

  • @carlospgsound
    @carlospgsound 2 года назад +3

    This is literally how it should sound a remake. Masterpiece. I'm completely amazed, congratulations! :)

  • @JaceD4V1S88
    @JaceD4V1S88 Год назад +1

    one of my 80s favorites, you have ALL the layers there!!! This is fantastic, well done!!

  • @eddiepires3998
    @eddiepires3998 2 года назад +1

    Beautifully done ! and the visuals of the equipment alone is just pure eye candy 😀

  • @emulatorIIforever
    @emulatorIIforever 2 года назад +2

    Fantastic work - you've totally knocked it out of the park with this one... delicious attention to detail, superbly honed patches, and a sublime result.
    Was a fascinating journey to watch you construct the drums - I've always quoted this song as being the "perfect" single, and yet there are elements in your recreation that I'd totally failed to appreciate in the thousands of times I must have listened to it. Particularly that pitched rimshot that's hammering relentlessly through the track, and how important it is in bringing the relatively simple bass figure to vibrant life. It's like the cowbell and low conga pattern in Thriller, once you hear it you can't unhear it. New perspective is a wonderfully exciting thing.
    Also really interesting to hear how the Rev-1 ties together the drums in such a coherent way. People often talk about the mighty 480 as being the king of studio reverbs, but although not as "legendary" this is a great example of why the Rev played such an important part in the tight, glued mixes of the time. Much like the SSL's Master Bus compressor, it was the foundation of so much of that pop sound, and I suspect along with (my weapon of choice) the 224 it was used in many a drum group instead of the 480 that folks happily quote.
    As someone here has already commented, it was chalk and cheese watching this diligent and informed recreation compared to Doctor Mix's recent attempts. I love his energy and style and totally respect his knowledge and enthusiasm for all things synthesiser, but watching him trying to recreate classic elements of this song with all sorts of modern plugins and hardware and really getting nowhere near the original sounds was a stark example of how it's tempting to use all the amazing power that we have in modern tools trying to reverse engineer a solution, when actually the best answer is right at our fingertips with simplicity and careful programming of the original gear.
    Anyway, I'm waffling now. But thanks again for all the effort that went into this, very much appreciated. Looking forward to the next one already. Oh, and I love that you've kept the original CMI monitor atop the keyboard even when it's not used any more; wouldn't be a CMI III without that splendidly 80s icon sitting there overseeing proceedings from its angled vantage point!

    • @EstuaryMists
      @EstuaryMists  2 года назад

      Hi David, thanks for your thoughtful comments. Whilst it's not always been popular to say, I have a real appreciation for the song writing and arrangement skills of Messrs Stock and Aitken and this was certainly one of their best. Whilst it 'borrows' elements from other tracks, the arrangement and interplay between the different parts created a fine pop song in its own right. Pop arrangement at its best.
      It was actually the Dr Mix video that pushed me to tidy up and post my version. I'd had it on my hard-drive in an unfinished state for some time but thought that it would be a useful complement of Dr Mix's video (which I did enjoy), for people to see some of the actual instruments and sounds used. Coincidentally, when commenting on his video, another viewer pointed my in the direction of the two Fairlight guitar voices that were used (I'd always assumed it was Matt Aitken), which served as the impetus for me to finish the track.
      The REV-1 is an interesting beast and is a favourite of mine. In a way, its similar to the AMS RMX-16 in that when solo'd, it doesn't always sound great but is excellent at blending elements of a mix into a coherent whole. I also really like the shorter reverbs and ER's, which are especially well suited to drums. I'm not sure whether it was used on this particular track but they certainly had one in the Bunker Studio downstairs.
      Interesting that you raise the point about the 224 vs the 480. I would agree that it's a misconception that the 480 was the defacto reverb from the mid-80s. Having spoken to a number of people active through that era, it's clear that the 224's were still heavily used (esp. the 224XL) and that the LARCS sitting on the SSL's were often controlling a 224XL or a 224XL in addition to a 480 using the Frame link. I'm somewhat jealous of your 224 - it's the one that got away for me but they're just too expensive now. Fabulous reverb.
      Glad you enjoyed seeing the Series III with it's green-screen! It still works but the flat panels make much more sense now (and are less likely to go bang!) I couldn't loose it though; as you say its part of the visual appeal of the old series III (and of the era that I grew up in!)

    • @emulatorIIforever
      @emulatorIIforever 2 года назад

      @@EstuaryMists yes, that's absolutely it - those guys really had a knack for structuring the very best of catchy, emotive and rhythmically driving grooves and blending them into pop gold!
      Interesting that you were similarly inspired by the Doctor Mix video… it's always great to see tracks recreated from different points of view, and I think (especially seeing his recent Relax video) his angle is increasingly "look what you can do with these amazing new library packs and virtual synths", whereas personally I'm more of a "wouldn't it be cool to recreate those tracks in a granular fashion using the original kit?" sort of guy... but I do really enjoy watching his breakdowns. I just know whenever he says "yeah, that'll do", we're on a different mission 😆
      Yes the 224 does seem like the unsung hero of that era, and for me there will always be something very special about the way that it blends and packages elements together in a stem, especially drums. But arguably I think I actually prefer the sound of the Rev1 in the way you used it here. It reminded me that we used to use the Rev5 a lot for live sound scenarios - if you have a very clean channel path and a decent sound system running through something like a Cadac at FOH then you really notice the difference when grouping rhythmic stuff through a Rev5 compared to a supposedly "higher end" reverb. Then if you sit the vocals in the classic 480 plate they perch really nicely atop the whole thing while you just ride the VCAs and feel like a hero.
      Haha, agreed... from the moment I saw the PSBs on TOTP in the late 80s as a kid, that white CMI with its tilted monitor was imprinted on my mind as the "look" of a great song. Flat screens just aren't the same, but like you say the risk of a fire is substantially less 🤣

  • @tiergartenmusic
    @tiergartenmusic 2 года назад +1

    Outstanding work!

  • @Angelman60
    @Angelman60 Год назад +1

    There is so much usefull information, I could watch you do this all day😅

    • @EstuaryMists
      @EstuaryMists  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks - I'm glad you find the content useful. Comments like yours validates breaking the song down to show the constituent elements. That said, on my latest video, I've added the breakdown section after the song, which may be a better way round?

    • @Angelman60
      @Angelman60 11 месяцев назад

      @EstuaryMists yeah and you go into every detail you don't show just one or two sounds but everything. It's amazing having the specific preset and seeing you playing it. I don't mind the order, but you're right maybe people are more interested in hearing the song right away when they start the video. People like me will watch it till the last second !

    • @EstuaryMists
      @EstuaryMists  11 месяцев назад +1

      Good to know - thanks for the feedback!

    • @The-creator-of-good-videos-15
      @The-creator-of-good-videos-15 10 месяцев назад

      @@EstuaryMists Hey there. I made an AI RickRoll GarageBand video, where it involves Rick’s AI voice instead of the original singer’s voice. Can I send the link to you?

    • @The-creator-of-good-videos-15
      @The-creator-of-good-videos-15 10 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@EstuaryMists There was a video that I used to watch that was kinda similar to this. It showed and had many instruments fading in and out from the start to the end. Where is the link for it?

  • @LFOVCF
    @LFOVCF Год назад

    Top notch production.

    • @EstuaryMists
      @EstuaryMists  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @jazzavox
    @jazzavox Год назад +1

    ..Perfect!🙂

  • @amulpatel
    @amulpatel 2 года назад

    so helpful to break these parts down.. I hope you do more of these but with the PSB covers. Great job as usual!

  • @koolmothafunker6027
    @koolmothafunker6027 11 месяцев назад

    Amazing job man

  • @Martinus74
    @Martinus74 2 года назад +2

    Stock Aitken Waterman reloaded 🙂 wow... amazing...please do more SAW stuff

  • @adamharris7775
    @adamharris7775 2 года назад +4

    The Linn 9000 was heard in the songs "You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)" (1984) and "Never Gonna Give You Up" (1987).

  • @cabetodj
    @cabetodj 2 года назад

    HIMNOOO A LA DECADA 80S!! Great Job !!! master

  • @ITAC85
    @ITAC85 Год назад +4

    If I recall correcty, the electro drum synth used in your remake is the MKS-50/Roland Juno, yes?
    I've been searching online for a while and I can't find a proper VST version of that synth anywhere.
    I'm currently working on a remake of "Never Gonna Give You Up" and I need to have accurate toms.
    I kindly request for you to play and record the ElectroDrum preset, play all notes from highest to lowest, then repeat each note 4 to 6 times for variation. Please make sure the notes do not overlap with each other.
    Preferably, can you send it as an audio file in a lossless format such as FLAC or WAV?
    I will be using these audio samples for my remake, which is why I ask for this.
    If this isn't possible, nonetheless I still appreciate you reading my comment.

    • @gamingwithcallum6087
      @gamingwithcallum6087 Год назад +1

      There is a free vst calked June 21 that emulates the Roland Juno

    • @rafii_304
      @rafii_304 Год назад +1

      use june 21 or anthology 85

  • @stevesrover
    @stevesrover 2 года назад +1

    Good work! I hope you get many views!

  • @pschiptunes64
    @pschiptunes64 3 месяца назад

    you should definitely try recreating You Spin Me Round (or another track off Youthquake), another one of Stock-Aitken-Waterman’s great hits

  • @raymondmleong93db25
    @raymondmleong93db25 2 года назад

    I love all your works. :)

  • @Somedei
    @Somedei 2 года назад +21

    Wow, you practically nailed it ! You should send this to Doctor Mix, he did one that was good but veeery far compared to yours, congratulations !

    • @EstuaryMists
      @EstuaryMists  2 года назад +9

      Thanks Oscar. I enjoyed Dr Mix's walkthrough but did find myself talking to the computer when he was musing over which instruments were the original sources for certain sounds!

    • @cpt_nordbart
      @cpt_nordbart Год назад

      Using a real Fairlight is cheating. :D

    • @juniourst3ven596
      @juniourst3ven596 Год назад

      @@EstuaryMists GREAT upload

    • @SirenHorror.
      @SirenHorror. Год назад +1

      @@cpt_nordbartit not it’s not a tutorial if it was a tutorial it wouldn’t cost money

    • @MrTweaksta
      @MrTweaksta 10 месяцев назад

      Love it. One question though. Why didn't you use Page R? It might not have the features of a modern DAW but there is a certain factor of "this is so cool" at play. It's surprisingly easy to learn.

  • @zeldarian5339
    @zeldarian5339 2 года назад

    This is dope

  • @The-creator-of-good-videos-15
    @The-creator-of-good-videos-15 5 месяцев назад

    I love this song cover! It’s also kinda accurate! What website did you use for the instrument bars or rows (or something)?

  • @AndrewTSq
    @AndrewTSq 2 года назад

    awesome work =) loved it.

    • @EstuaryMists
      @EstuaryMists  2 года назад

      Thanks for your comment. I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @StifPlay
    @StifPlay 2 года назад

    Nice Copy Sound - GOOD!!!Bravo!!!

  • @DK184
    @DK184 2 года назад

    Great job!!!!

  •  2 года назад +5

    Pretty solid recreation! Congratulations.
    I love your synth gear, especially that Fairlight CMI Series III.
    If it's possible I'd like to have a brief talk with you. Do you have an email where I can reach you?
    Best regards!

    • @EstuaryMists
      @EstuaryMists  2 года назад +2

      Hi - thanks for your comment. I'd rather not disclose contact details but am happy to answer questions through this comment section.

  • @albert.2848
    @albert.2848 5 месяцев назад

    Love SAW 😀😍

  • @AffemitWaffeOriginal
    @AffemitWaffeOriginal Год назад +1

    Can I use this instrumental remake and resample it? I kinda don't want to use the Original here xD

  • @TheBanishedWind
    @TheBanishedWind 2 года назад +2

    6:43

  • @testaccountyt
    @testaccountyt 2 года назад +1

    You're wrong about a bit of these.
    The bongo sample is in the TR-727, and so is most of the backing.
    The string sample is in the Fairlight CMI III, you're right about that, but it's StrHiII.VC, not ViolinsII.VC.
    The epiano is actually from the DX7, same with the bass. The 'epiano' note was actually called the 'bass piano' by SAW, according to an interview.

    • @EstuaryMists
      @EstuaryMists  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your comment. Taking point 2 first, when I started looking at the track a few years ago, I too thought that the lead was StrHi11.vc (subvoice 2), as the envelope of the sound seemed to match the 7” single better. However, I subsequently listed to the PWL episode of ‘The Producers’ series on Radio 2, where Ian Curnow, speaking about the use of the Fairlight string library on ‘Never gonna give’ said the following; “I will give you an example here, as we used on the Rick record. Here it is in one octave” (plays the top line). But on the record it was actually done in two octaves together, as you can hear here” (then plays the two together). Now, StrHi11 is already sampled in an octave and the sound he played on the radio show matched Violins11.vc, which is why I ended up using that sound instead.
      Incidentally, the next cover I will post (when I finish it) is another track from that year that definitely uses StrHi11.vc.
      Re. your first point, I’m not quite sure what you’re driving at. I quite clearly state that the bongos are from the TR-727 (1:52). The only other sounds that could possibly be from the 727 are the conga sample and the cabassa. Listening to the Dr Mix breakdown of the multitracks, the conga is unlikely to be the 727, as it is a pitched sample and tonally doesn't sound the same as the 727 conga. The Cabassa sounds more Linn 9k than 727 to me, although given it’s little more than white noise, it wouldn’t really matter which machine was used.
      Re your third point, I used the TX-802 in lieu of a DX-7, as I haven’t owned an actual DX-7 for years. As you probably know, the TX-802 is a DX-7II in a rack. Articles from back in the day show that Ian Curnow had at least two of these in his PWL programming suite.

    • @testaccountyt
      @testaccountyt 2 года назад

      ​@@EstuaryMists Thank you for replying, most people ignore me. When I said the bongo was from the TR-727, I was clarifying it. I figured you knew, but I didn't notice you mentioned it in the video, I guess I missed that.
      Also, about 'The Producers' on Radio 2, I actually want to thank you, I couldn't find the name of it and all I had was a rip from RUclips in slightly low quality and I didn't know what to look up to find the original.
      I also want to thank you for pointing me to where I can find the toms to Never Gonna Give You Up, I thought it was from the Roland Alpha Juno. That, or I'm right it's from there, but Redominator (vst to emulate Alpha Juno, I couldn't find anything else) isn't as good as I thought it was.

    • @EstuaryMists
      @EstuaryMists  2 года назад

      Hey, no problem - it's good to have a discussion. I was intrigued as to how you knew about StrHi11, as I would doubt that many Fairlight owners would be familiar with that sound!
      Re the 727, I try to label the sounds that I use as I play them in the videos. I'm not too proficient at making videos (I've been using the basic version of iMovie thus far), and I've clearly I've not found the best way of adding captions to the screen, as you're not the first person that has missed the text. I'll have to explore other apps and find a better way.
      The Producers series on Radio 2 was excellent. They were hosted by Steve Levine (who obviously knows his stuff) and if you haven't heard it, I would definitely recommend the episode about Trevor Horns empire.
      You may or may not know but the MKS-50 that I used for the toms is essentially a keyboardless Alpha Juno, so you would be able to get exactly the same sound out of an A-Juno 1 or 2. I'm not familiar with Redominator but I know that U-he's Diva models the A-Juno oscillator, so maybe that would be worth exploring.

    • @Alex-bc7qi
      @Alex-bc7qi 2 года назад

      @@EstuaryMists If you haven't heard Steve Lipsom talk about creating the Propaganda tracks with Andy Richards and J.J. Jeczalik (I know I don't have to explain the significance of those names!), you are in for a treat. It's on RUclips. They even talk about creating the horn stack in p-machinery. Just wow. Heard about it from my friend who used to work at PWL as a no-name mix master for their 12" mixes in the early 90's (no name because they paid him under the table - so no taxes).

    • @Angelman60
      @Angelman60 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@Alex-bc7qiwould you have that link ? I'd love to know how they built p machinery😊

  • @The-creator-of-good-videos-15
    @The-creator-of-good-videos-15 Месяц назад +1

    Yup, we have been RickRolled by EstuaryMists… or should I say EstuaryRolled?

  • @Angelman60
    @Angelman60 4 месяца назад

    Is it possible to have more informations about how you programmed the bassline ? Which parameters did you tweak to have that punchy attack please ?😊

  • @romenyesayan3855
    @romenyesayan3855 8 месяцев назад

    6:43 finished song

  • @jleb22
    @jleb22 2 года назад +1

    I am interested you must have spent a fortune on this gear? I used to make my own music and found it was virtually impossible to make any money. You actually have a series III!! How do you fund all this stuff?

  • @The-creator-of-good-videos-15
    @The-creator-of-good-videos-15 3 месяца назад

    If you only did drums and bass it would appear to me that it would sound like Rick Astley is on some mission that I’m not aware of or something! Lol.
    Also, what Alex is this person talking about?

  • @rafii_304
    @rafii_304 8 месяцев назад

    where did you find the PWL Samples?

  • @tihinter
    @tihinter 2 года назад

    Great recreation. Do you know if they had the Fairlight during the produktion of Never Gonna Give at PWL? Are you sure about the Rev1, wasn't it a Rev7? (I am an actual owner of both, just interested in those details and your sources)...

    • @EstuaryMists
      @EstuaryMists  2 года назад +1

      Thanks. A Fairlight (Series III) was definitely used on the record. Ian Curnow says so during the PWL episode of ‘The Producers’ series that was aired on Radio 2 a few years back, where he speaks about the use of the Fairlight string library and brass sounds on the record. PWL of course had the only non-cream coloured Series III in existence. I have no idea whether a REV-1 was used on the record but they definitely had one in the studio complex (amongst all the Lexicons and AMS's). There's at least one photo floating around on the net showing the RCR-1 controller next to a LARC and 224 controller on the end of the SSL in the Bunker studio.

  • @dzod
    @dzod 2 года назад

    Noticed that you feature the MKS-50 for the intro toms. Somebody recently discussed this on gearslutz. Did you know this already or did you find out there like I did? Great job by the way. I did a version using only a Yamaha Montage. Sounds better than you think. Will post link here if you're interested.

    • @EstuaryMists
      @EstuaryMists  2 года назад +1

      No, I've known about that for years. Over the years, I've collected a lot of (useless) information about sounds that were used on famous records, though a combination of my own analysis, magazine articles and meeting people that worked on these types of record. Of course it's somewhat easier to do that for this era, as presets were often used due to time pressures and there were fewer instruments available than there are today. Please post a link to your Montage version - I'd be interesting in hearing it.

  • @pops1221
    @pops1221 Год назад

    In my pocket I have a phone with more tracks, more sounds, fingertip sequencing, drums etc etc. But I always go back to the Fairlight.

  • @mariopak4817
    @mariopak4817 Год назад

  • @burns46824
    @burns46824 2 года назад

    Which version of the fair light is this? I have an emulator II and it seems to sound pretty much the exact same

    • @EstuaryMists
      @EstuaryMists  2 года назад +2

      Series 3, as stated in the video description.

    • @burns46824
      @burns46824 2 года назад

      @@EstuaryMists Have you compared the sound to an EII? That’s what I use

    • @EstuaryMists
      @EstuaryMists  2 года назад +3

      ​@@burns46824 Hi, yes, I’m a long-time owner of an EII and think it's a great machine. The factory library and OMI libraries have some iconic sounds in them and the number of records / film score that the EII was used on is testament to its quality.
      In terms of a comparison between the two, well each machine its pros and cons and a comparison of sound would also depend on the source material being played / sampled. When looking at measurable sound quality, the dynamic range of the Series III is simply higher than the EII. It’s a true 16-bit stereo machine, which in the older, non-MFX versions of the software could sample up to 100khz mono (48k stereo for the version I’m running) and is therefore able to capture deep bass and crisp high frequencies in a way that the EII simply can’t. So for orchestral type sounds, drums and percussion, the Series III simply outperforms the EII. It also has a lot more memory, so patches can have many more multi-samples in them, giving a better representation across the frequency range.
      That said, the filters on the Series III are not anywhere close to being as useful in shaping sounds as those in the EII. Whilst it has resonant (analogue) filters on each voice, the resonance on the Series III is weak and only really serves to give a slight boost to the cut-off frequency. Coupled with that, there is no easy way to dynamically control the filters (you have do draw a function curve and assign that to the cut-off frequency).
      Compare that to the EII, who’s filters match that of a high-end analogue poly, and its clear that if you want to sample and playback synth sounds, the EII is arguably the better machine. Also for most synth sounds being sampled, the dynamic range of the EII is more than sufficient, and its companding architecture often enhances the sound being sampled (see some of JMPSynth’s sound packs for good examples).

  • @mjwalters8394
    @mjwalters8394 Год назад

    Bloody typical that you didnt show the EP chords you were playing.

  • @MoonLanta
    @MoonLanta 2 года назад

    Reduce the sustain in the strings!!!! They need to be closer to a more staccato mode 😊

  • @SMG58901
    @SMG58901 Год назад

    hey send me a keyboard with a new desk lol

  • @VaughnGTO
    @VaughnGTO Год назад

    ❤️