Actually on my 3rd Hustle Ink now (with one more left in stash), but even back in the 90s when I was throwing mainly Brunswick and Hammer, I had multiples of the Red Hammer R and the Purple Rhino Pro.
Love the comparisons you do and throwing in the pin down and pin up was perfect! Really enjoy your vids. A ball that I've drilled two of, you'll laugh, the Storm Special Agent...it's my favorite Storm ball of all time. Still have a NIB stashed.
Personally myself it's hard for me to find a ball that I like enough to buy multiples of. With that being said I want a whole closet full of RST X1........I absolutely love that ball. Oh and I would take another Rubicon UC2 in a heartbeat
Never bought two of the same ball. As a THB playing leagues I’ve just learned not to cop the latest and hyped up to be the greatest ball. Recently went with Axiom over Zen Master and this video makes me happy
Agree, seriously disappointed they discontinued the Idol so soon... Hopefully a suitable replacement will show up some time soon... Not holding my breath though... Cheers!
Two drilled at the same time so far for me are: Web Tour, Results OG, and Maximum Results. Love your channel fellas!!!!!!!!!!! Best out there for ball reviews in my opinion
I'm showing my age here... I had a couple Danger Zones and several AMF XS white balls. Great videos! Thanks for the comparisons I can't believe how that Axiom took off I will take one of those please.
First off amazing video as always. Seen someone shoot 812 with Original Zen at the military tournament here in NV. Now I want one lol. This video helps the Zen look even better lol To answer your question, I have never purchased two balls of the same and drilled the same. Extremely glad that the idol is the Ol trusty rock to pull out.
Great stuff! Definitely like my Zen, but I didn't run out to buy this ball because I have a Zen and a C4 and I didn't want a lot of overlap. As for the q of the day, I've never purchased the same ball twice. I would be curious to go back and throw stuff from 10+ years ago on today's conditions though if I had thought to stash some away.
When I was bowling for Lord Field I receive 4 of the same balls. I would drill 2 pretty standard, one a little less aggressive, 1 pin down to see how that reacts and give one away to my local youth program.
I get 2 of the same sometimes But just save the extra when the other ball is not reacting good anymore (phase 2). I cannot believe how slow the zen master is. I’m really considering it for short patterns. Thanks for the great review.
There will be times when I get the same ball. The balls that I’ve gotten that are the same are OG Hyroad, OG IQ tour and the Phaze2, actually the Phaze2 I picked up 4 of them!!!
Nice video guys have two Zens awesome peice drilled very close and two Axiom Pearls we have light oil conditions on house shots. Jordan I think you can make that Zen your next favorite you throw that NICE.😃
I have never had two of the same balls, but what i have done is get a direct successor. I had a pin down Severe Delirium and a pin up Resurgence, both dull hybrids with the same resurgence core. i also took a ball that i originally drilled pin up and plugged and redrilled it to pin down
Honestly once my brunswick rhino dies out ill be wanting to drill another one for sure although I did recently pick up the hustle wine and i am loving that ball alot
Many moons ago I bought two code red , one pin up one pin down. Honestly stopped using them after the statement solid came out which became my go to ball which has switched to the phase 2
I've owned 3 IQ tours, 3 marvel pearls, and 2 IQ tour pearls. I threw the marvel pearls and the IQ tour on literally everything for a solid 3 to 4 years lol.
The surface on the Zen Master is super gritty for some reason. I feel like the Zen Master really comes into its best form once it sheens up a bit or you hit it with a little lighter surface from oob, unless your bowling on a flood
Thinking adding another Uc3 but pin down. I would like to the same with the rubicon and rstx1. These are to complement the pin up. I am thinking they may shape better for my game on fresh sport shots than my pin ups.
Went bowling for the first time in 12 years a couple weeks ago, went out and bought a zen master that was in stock at my local alley last weekend. And I find it definitely starts hooking to early, so would some polish help get the ball farther down the lane to avoid the Brooklyn?
So far in my league bag (i bowl two men leagues) my play style is more of a stroker, i got in my main bag a phaze 3 a hyroad max and an astro physix the hyroad is really my go to ball then phaze 3 pin down im trying to build a good arsenal just dont know which ball would compliment the phaze 3 and hyroad i have a pro motion and omega crux in my back up bag but never really threw good with those too what would y’all recommend league is coming up quick and im excited
Sir I had the Phase 3 nice also the Astro sweet if you like them I highly suggest Axiom Pearl (it's getting discontinued I got two) or the Zen you can thank me later.😀😃🙂
@@jrproshop It's super blurry, no sharpness or detail. It looks like you were trying to use a wide open aperture to create and artsy effect and it didn't work out. Try F4 and above for best effect.
Yes, I have two 900 Global Aspects drilled exactly the same. Polished and OOB. These balls are basically exactly the Zen Master with core numbers and coverstock. They just came out a year earlier, with lots of Covid.
Had a pin up and pin down gb3 at the same time. Anytime I get a new ball to replace the old one it never rolls well even with the same layouts, so I would rather just buy a different ball.
I would get a second ball a couple years later(if available). It may get drilled the same way or it may get tweaked because my game may have gotten better since I had the first one.
Won a Widow 2.0, got it drilled pin up and ended up getting damaged after 3 shots (lane damage). Got the ball fixed, but didn't roll the same so bought a new one, and drilled it pin down. Ended up correcting the issue with the pin up widow, now have 2 of the same ball.
Thank you so much for this video. I truly appreciate all of the different lines you used throwing this ball. I thought that this ball was going be have a lot of backend. However, watching you throw it...it clearly does not have a lot of backend. It's very smooth if anything at all. Will not be buying this ball.
3 different times I’ve bought the same ball and drilled them exactly the same once the old ones wore out. Hustle Ink, Idol Pearl and GB 2 Phenom Pearl. And If I could I would buy all 3 again lol
Actually on my 3rd Hustle Ink now (with one more left in stash), but even back in the 90s when I was throwing mainly Brunswick and Hammer, I had multiples of the Red Hammer R and the Purple Rhino Pro.
Love the comparisons you do and throwing in the pin down and pin up was perfect! Really enjoy your vids. A ball that I've drilled two of, you'll laugh, the Storm Special Agent...it's my favorite Storm ball of all time. Still have a NIB stashed.
I had a Special Agent back in the day and it was amazing!!
Normally I wouldn’t get the same ball as one I get, but when I got my intensity, I feel in love and am probably gonna stash one for nationals lol
Personally myself it's hard for me to find a ball that I like enough to buy multiples of. With that being said I want a whole closet full of RST X1........I absolutely love that ball. Oh and I would take another Rubicon UC2 in a heartbeat
I absolutely do! Love pin up and down compliments.
Never bought two of the same ball. As a THB playing leagues I’ve just learned not to cop the latest and hyped up to be the greatest ball. Recently went with Axiom over Zen Master and this video makes me happy
Agree, seriously disappointed they discontinued the Idol so soon... Hopefully a suitable replacement will show up some time soon... Not holding my breath though... Cheers!
Two drilled at the same time so far for me are: Web Tour, Results OG, and Maximum Results. Love your channel fellas!!!!!!!!!!! Best out there for ball reviews in my opinion
Thanks Lorenzo !!
I'm showing my age here... I had a couple Danger Zones and several AMF XS white balls. Great videos! Thanks for the comparisons I can't believe how that Axiom took off I will take one of those please.
First off amazing video as always. Seen someone shoot 812 with Original Zen at the military tournament here in NV. Now I want one lol. This video helps the Zen look even better lol To answer your question, I have never purchased two balls of the same and drilled the same. Extremely glad that the idol is the Ol trusty rock to pull out.
Sir you will not be sorry with the Zen awesome peice. 😎
Great stuff! Definitely like my Zen, but I didn't run out to buy this ball because I have a Zen and a C4 and I didn't want a lot of overlap. As for the q of the day, I've never purchased the same ball twice. I would be curious to go back and throw stuff from 10+ years ago on today's conditions though if I had thought to stash some away.
Nice on the Zen these folks don't know what there missing excellent peice. 👍
When I was bowling for Lord Field I receive 4 of the same balls. I would drill 2 pretty standard, one a little less aggressive, 1 pin down to see how that reacts and give one away to my local youth program.
I was given a used All Road. Fell in love with it. Now I have 2 NIB.
I had two Defiant Souls. Loved that ball. One pin up and One Pin Down.
I get 2 of the same sometimes
But just save the extra when the other ball is not reacting good anymore (phase 2). I cannot believe how slow the zen master is. I’m really considering it for short patterns. Thanks for the great review.
Just started my bowling ball stash. For when the stuff that I love now, dies. I can drill up some fresh ones!
Excited for the rst x2, looks like my Christmas present.
There will be times when I get the same ball. The balls that I’ve gotten that are the same are OG Hyroad, OG IQ tour and the Phaze2, actually the Phaze2 I picked up 4 of them!!!
Looks like a great piece!! I like the reactions of both balls!! I also have the IQ Tour drilled pin up and pin down…
Nice video guys have two Zens awesome peice drilled very close and two Axiom Pearls we have light oil conditions on house shots. Jordan I think you can make that Zen your next favorite you throw that NICE.😃
I have never had two of the same balls, but what i have done is get a direct successor. I had a pin down Severe Delirium and a pin up Resurgence, both dull hybrids with the same resurgence core. i also took a ball that i originally drilled pin up and plugged and redrilled it to pin down
Jungo, what are the layouts you use for pin up and pin down? Do you guys use dual angle or pin buffer?
Pin up 65x5x25. Pin down 85x4 7/8x70. Dual angle is the more simple
@@jrproshop agree, but some people still use pin buffer, even some channels I watch. I prefer dual angle also.
Honestly once my brunswick rhino dies out ill be wanting to drill another one for sure although I did recently pick up the hustle wine and i am loving that ball alot
Got 2 of the idol and idol synergy. Love both balls.
Im on ball #4 with the IQ tour, been my go to on house shots and the fresh since introduced, alway been pin down (55x5x70)
Absolutely bought few of those magic ones and wish I had gotten more(og physix )
Yes sir love the Physix,Astro and Proton Atomic core SWEET 😋
Many moons ago I bought two code red , one pin up one pin down. Honestly stopped using them after the statement solid came out which became my go to ball which has switched to the phase 2
I have owned 2 OG hyroads and made money with both. How would this Zen master compare to a soild UFO?
Zen master will be little later rolling, and a little more angular
I've owned 3 IQ tours, 3 marvel pearls, and 2 IQ tour pearls. I threw the marvel pearls and the IQ tour on literally everything for a solid 3 to 4 years lol.
The surface on the Zen Master is super gritty for some reason. I feel like the Zen Master really comes into its best form once it sheens up a bit or you hit it with a little lighter surface from oob, unless your bowling on a flood
Agreed
Thinking adding another Uc3 but pin down. I would like to the same with the rubicon and rstx1. These are to complement the pin up. I am thinking they may shape better for my game on fresh sport shots than my pin ups.
Yea pin down will be smoother
Went bowling for the first time in 12 years a couple weeks ago, went out and bought a zen master that was in stock at my local alley last weekend. And I find it definitely starts hooking to early, so would some polish help get the ball farther down the lane to avoid the Brooklyn?
Either some polish or even a smoother sanded surface. 3000 or 4000 grit
So far in my league bag (i bowl two men leagues) my play style is more of a stroker, i got in my main bag a phaze 3 a hyroad max and an astro physix the hyroad is really my go to ball then phaze 3 pin down im trying to build a good arsenal just dont know which ball would compliment the phaze 3 and hyroad i have a pro motion and omega crux in my back up bag but never really threw good with those too what would y’all recommend league is coming up quick and im excited
Sir I had the Phase 3 nice also the Astro sweet if you like them I highly suggest Axiom Pearl (it's getting discontinued I got two) or the Zen you can thank me later.😀😃🙂
I’m just a league bowler but I have gotten the same ball after the first ball died and that ball was the OG Physix
Thank you for a great review as usual! Question: Why is this video so blurry?
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@@jrproshop It's super blurry, no sharpness or detail. It looks like you were trying to use a wide open aperture to create and artsy effect and it didn't work out. Try F4 and above for best effect.
If available I would definitely get another WEB Tour Hybrid. That ball is my baby. I have had it for a couple years and it just treats me right.
Hey do you know what the title of the song that plays at 1:34? I really like it. Thanks for the ball review btw
It’s called “Sing Sin” by Mentes Vacias
@@jrproshop thank you so much, u make the best ball reviews! Keep going and you will be at 100K soon. :)
would the Zen pearl be a step up from the rubicon UC2
It’s definitely a stronger ball overall. Huge core and stronger coverstock
Yes, I have two 900 Global Aspects drilled exactly the same. Polished and OOB. These balls are basically exactly the Zen Master with core numbers and coverstock. They just came out a year earlier, with lots of Covid.
Explain what it mean to have a pin up versus pin down with the same ball? Thanks somebody
Pin up = pin above the finger holes.
Pin down = pin below the finger holes
Jungo on the lanes
I have an AllRoad and Zen stashed for then when they die
Love this ball, I noticed i had to slow my speed down for it to really turn the corner
what's ur normal layouts on ur zene/ with pin up.and pin down.. ??. I'm just experimenting
65x5x25 and 75x5.25x75
Thru it in practice this weekend at tournament. Ball read at my feet lol
😂
Had two Wicked Sieges, two Zens, and 2 Outbursts. If I really like it, I'll get a second. Getting a Master, maybe a second If it rolls good.
Nice on the Zens I have a Proton my buddy has the Master likes it. Just got the Phase 2 ,Master looks good 👍
So I have an astrophysix and Im not getting a second ball but I will look into getting a physix at a later time when it dies.
Haven’t yet but I wish I would have got two crux primes
I'll need another Idol Synergy before that gets discontinued. My benchmark/Utility ball
Love my synergy too, got it drilled pin down & it hits like a tank!
@@mattspeer6672 Right above my ring finger on mine, but I've been thinking about a pin down too! Glad you like yours
Had a pin up and pin down gb3 at the same time. Anytime I get a new ball to replace the old one it never rolls well even with the same layouts, so I would rather just buy a different ball.
Cool video talk to tech bowling ball 900 gobal zen master does this bowling ball has dot technology dynamic core in the bowling ball ok Jr pro shop
Why don't you guys use a house shot vs sport or challenge since most of us bowl on house shots
I would get a zen master pin down
So when can we start seeing some tournament vlogs? Not afraid to say “I want that “
When we can travel!
How does this compare to the proton physix
I would get a second ball a couple years later(if available). It may get drilled the same way or it may get tweaked because my game may have gotten better since I had the first one.
Do u bowl with 15lb balls or 16lb?
I have had a total of 5 Venom shocks. :D
I would play with the surface of the zen master
How about a Zem Mater vs Dark Code review ?
Won a Widow 2.0, got it drilled pin up and ended up getting damaged after 3 shots (lane damage). Got the ball fixed, but didn't roll the same so bought a new one, and drilled it pin down. Ended up correcting the issue with the pin up widow, now have 2 of the same ball.
I went through 3 Ebonite The One when i was bowling in juniors.
Thank you so much for this video. I truly appreciate all of the different lines you used throwing this ball. I thought that this ball was going be have a lot of backend. However, watching you throw it...it clearly does not have a lot of backend. It's very smooth if anything at all. Will not be buying this ball.
3 different times I’ve bought the same ball and drilled them exactly the same once the old ones wore out. Hustle Ink, Idol Pearl and GB 2 Phenom Pearl. And If I could I would buy all 3 again lol
Zen Master goooooood!
I think they should release a hybrid zen, and call it the Total Zen.
I have 4 storm axiom solids
Yes idol pearl !!!!
How similar is the Zen Master to the Phase 2 if at all?
Should be similar to Phaze 2 but is a little earlier and smoother
If I could find a new AMF AMForce 4, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Best ball I've ever used.
I have a phaze 2, idol & idol pearl pin up & pin down.
Oh definitely , when my Rubicon dies it's getting replaced with another one for as long as they make them.
I mean I have an Axiom Solid and from the looks of this… I have no need for a Zen Master.
I buy two of the same very often
Just got that ball
If I could get another hustle INK, I’d drill it as soon as it arrived at the house. Too bad theyre 200 bucks NIB
Love him
5:38 Spongeball spherepants
You have 6 NIB idols...... Lol your gonna have that ball in your bag until 2024 for sure
I think 1 a year so 2027 hahah hopefully find a replacement by then 😂😂
I take on yall
RST X-2 please
Did not expect it to be weaker than axiom. Disappointing
I have a 15lb Idol Undrilled. HMU.
The ZEN was the EASY MODE for bowlers. The MASTER is not! HEAVY oil that needs HAND behind it.
Yeah, this ball can move if you have the hand. Sharpest ball i own! I love it
Zen Master looks like fresh conditions ball.
I got a nib idol. I am about the drill it tonight
No company bashing...LOL
Absolutely love the video and absolutely love the channel!! Watch every video … but this ball is trash !!!!
Thanks zac! Haha I wouldn't say trash just not for everyone
ZM is so bad. Ball will be discontinued in no time.
Definitely does not seem to fit Jung's game. At least on this pattern.
Correct. Too early and strong. If I were to bowl for score I'd definitely take it to 4000
Zen master bad 😔
😲 take the surface off ?
RST X-2 please
RST X-2 please
RST X-2 please