You got a few small yet important details wrong in connection to The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints (Mormon), though there are a few very different groups called Mormons. First off, Joseph Smith Jr. wasn't told by God the Father nor Jesus Christ to find Golden Plates, that was a few years later by the Angel of God named Moroni. Joseph Smith Jr. did not write The Book Of Mormon, or even dictate it, he dictated the translation from the Golden Plates that God gave him power to understand. And it wasn't his friends with Joseph Smith Jr. who practiced polygamy, like Abraham, Jacob, Moses and David under the permission and guidance of God, only those called by God could practice polygamy in this church, and were free to refuse like any other calling. During the 50 years or so that polygamy was practiced, only 5% of men, and 25-50% of women were involved. Anyone practicing without being commanded by God were Excommunicated from the church if they didn't repent. Joseph Smith Jr. only took on political positions as needed, until his run for President, campaigning to end Slavery, the first religious leader in America to publicly do so. "Mormons" settled most of the Western United States of America.
This is a fantastic video! I was raised very casually Mormon and my immediate family converted to Jehovah's Witnesses later on. So glad to be free from both cults, and it's fascinating to learn more about both
please don't misuse the term cult. cults are full of only evil and both these religions are full of people trying to help others. look at that actual cults and you will see that neither of these fit the bill.
@@twipo912 I do not use the word cult lightly and I am correct in using it here. Even the more well known cults like Johnstown were also full of people simply wanting to do good and find truth. That's how abusive control works. The followers are victims, used as pawns to spread the influence of the abusive, bigoted and even violent leaders. I will not sugarcoat my words about cults, not after all the suicides, human sacrifices (via refusal of blood transfusions), traumatizing LDS wilderness camps and even the murders.
It is the only one where the first presidency in quorum of the 12 apostles meet weekly. So I would pretty much say that would make it the "Main" temple. I understand what you're saying in that they claim that each temple resides The ability to perform the same ordinances and has the same authority to do so, yet with I believe only one other Temple having a holy of holies, and it being the only one that all the leaders meet in on the constant basis, I would call it the main one. But just my opinion
@@calvo1002I’m not sure if such a thing is. In function at least. Catholics have the St Peter’s Basilica in Rome f.e., which is significant, but in function or ecclesial hierarchy it’s not different from any other basilica in the world. Just that it’s the most iconic+where the pope lives. Same with the Salt Lake City Temple.
The Salt Lake Temple is actually the "main" Temple in the sense that it is the only one that has a "Holy of Holies", is the only one where live endowment sessions are preformed, and the only one where the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve meet. It was also, for a time, the only place where Second Anointings were performed.
At time stamp 21:50 minutes the children sing about going to Bethel. The children sing happily, the music is upbeat, and it is called the happiest time they had. Of course, it is the only non preaching vacation a JW family will ever have. For JWs, even if they can afford a vacation, which most can’t because they are suppose to live “modestly”, giving all they can to the organization, they are required or requested to check in to the local congregation in the area they go to,so they can continue with the weekly meetings and preaching work which is to maintain their good standing in the organization. They are never able to get off the hamster wheel, which is a control measure for these high control cults.
I'm LDS so can't speak from a JW point of view but I found your video impartial and pretty accurate in most places. You also done a really good job of lacing it with a bit of humour too. Thank you for posting.
The thing active members of LDS should keep in mind: There's Two histories in the Mormon Church. There's the "official history" that the modern day leaders put out in their teachings, books, videos, etc. AND THEN there's the true history of events. Only in the past 20 years has the "official church history" started to include yesterday's anti-mormon lies such polygamy, Adam-God Doctrine, Racism, etc. So when active members come on comment boards and say "Well, you got most correct" You have to ask, is the active member only referring to the modern "official narrative" put out by the church? Non members will often look at what the current historic record shows which has conflicts in the official history. So I'd be interest in what this commenter means when they say "Accurate in most places" and give us some example found in this video.
@@gabby-ue8sh No, they weren't. Also, if you are a fellow Christian, you should find nothing wrong with the statement "submit to Christ." That is, unless you think man-made structures are of a higher authority than God himself.
a small point in the video, but the way you touched on the mormon heavenly mother opened my eyes. my mom always told me that we dont speak of her because if we did people would use her name in vain, but if that was true, why wouldnt we do the same for heavenly father? none of it makes sense anymore. i cant wait to leave.
God bless you. Gtfo of that nonsense asap. I hope you find Christ for real and not the heretical nonsense made to scam dumbass peasants and losers in the 1800s
Yes, that's a common 'reason' people within the Church of Jesus Christ can hold - but it is something of an old wives tale. To quote Elder Renlund: "Very little has been revealed about Mother in Heaven, but what we do know is summarized in a gospel topic found in our Gospel Library application. Once you have read what is there, you will know everything that I know about the subject. I wish I knew more. You too may still have questions and want to find more answers. Seeking greater understanding is an important part of our spiritual development, but please be cautious. Reason cannot replace revelation." Hope that helps! I find the Gospel to make a lot of sense, so if you want to talk out any other issues you see I'd be happy to. Either way, have a good one!
In the words of Jesus Christ the living. "If your leaders say into you, see the kingdom of God is in the sky, then the birds of heaven shall precede you. If they say into you see the kingdom is in the sea! Then the fish shall precede you. Rather the kingdom is within you and it is without you.
And not only that but according to mormo theology, although mother of Mormon Jesus, she's just one wife to the ''heavenly father'' as he has multiple other wives.
As a catholic tbh mormons are not that bad(there may be some) my friend is lds, she cool & me and her would always have conversations abt our religions & we would blow each other's minds from what we learn from each others religion.
@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus Dunno how fun it would ultimately be if all Mormon men started having multiple simultanious house-wives so that they could become individual gods of their own planets once they die.
I'm an atheist (raised Lutheran) and it doesn't bother me at all when the LDS missionaries show up on my porch 😊 But for some reason, the JWs make me livid and I've never been able to figure out why. I think it's because the LDS guys show up like mid afternoon to early evening and the JWs show up at like eight on Saturday morning. Anyway, great video, thank you!
Every LDS/Mormon I've interacted with has been nothing but pleasant, but the Jehovah's Witnesses have been the complete opposite. A good friend of mine had neighbors who were JW and they were always rude, hostile & standoffish and rarely speak to anyone outside of the JW Church.
As an ex Mormon, if you don’t want to hear them talk, I beg of you please talk to those boys about video games. They aren’t allowed to participate in any media or hobbies not related to the church for two whole years. Asking them what video games or movies they liked at home will remind them they have a personality outside of the religion.
Ex-mormon, once got punched a in the back on my mission by a guy that thought we were the JW's that had been knocking on his door early in the morning lol
The JWs know that preaching door to door is extremely ineffective, they still force their members to affirm the image that outsiders are rude and evil. The Mormons actually do much better at converting people.
orthodox christian here. Generally we consider neither mormons nor JWs christian because their doctrine is so divergent from christianity. Been enjoying the videos, thank you for suffering through all this for us!
ex mormon here, believe me the deeper you dive into mormonism the less Christian it gets 😅. Their really just a polytheistic religion lossly based on the bible. Ironically Jewdaism and islam feel more Christian. Mormons who say they're Christian usually dont really understand orthodox christianity, and like their core attributes. Its not just about the trinity. So very valid my dude.
It does look kind of weird from the outside when various different groups that call themselves Christians are always saying that they are the only true Christian church and everyone else isn't Christian. It doesn't show a lot of unity. There is a hymn that goes "we pray that our unity will someday be restored".
@jaimetolley2375 most Christians are actually polytheistic as well, although they would never accept that title. There's no WAY they'd accept a label that's also used for those "silly" mythological religions lmfao
@jacobtamminga5560 believing that the trinity is made up of 3 separate entities who serve different purposes/are in a hierarchy of sorts. It's not all denominations, but its quite a few of the more common ones
They won’t show up at my doorstep uninvited. They do get nervous about the “No trespassing” signs in the middle of nowhere and a half mile from my house (which cannot be seen from the road). We’ve had Mormons over due to a family member being one of them.
I don't know, I've been in service quite a lot in the rural areas and most of them couldn't give a sh!t about a no trespassing sign. A driveway or sidewalk is public access. Now, opening someone's gate is a different matter, I'll grant that.
@@Eric_01 So far I’ve had them write letters, but nobody has walked past 2 cattle gates into an area that’s potentially having people live there in the middle of nowhere. I’d be tickled pink, but they won’t stop here.
That is a great question. The old Halls were built with small windows at the very top. At least the one I grew up did. But that was the only one I’ve ever seen.
I believe it has something to do with the Armaggedon. They believe that they will be protected from the fire when earth burns at the last day. Kingdom halls will be their refuge places.
@@2PastNeptunewhen I was in, our kh did have high up windows. But our city building codes require X amount of square footage of the floor for light and ventilation. (I believe it was 15%) If the windows were sealed type, the ventilation system also needed to be approved by city. The real reason for high windows was that they didn't want you looking out the windows when you got bored, high windows mean you can't see what's going on out in the world. 😢
@@cipmaster1 yeah kinda true. at least JWs are still technically monotheistic whereas Mormons are kinda henotheistic (actually also Tritheist since they believe the Trinity are separate gods)
I was raised Mormon , served a mission, served in leadership and was married in the temple . Being raised Mormon was a great way to grown up. I think being raised JW is much harder and isolating.
@David19746 Not because we believe that the bible is less legitimate fundamentally, we just believe that the book of mormon is a more pure and true version of the gospel as it has been translated from one record one time (according to our beliefs)
@@paulaward2075go watch a leaked temple video. If you’re still thinking about it, I don’t know what to tell you. Also the only people that go to “hell” in Mormon believe are apostates or ex-Mormons. It’s a friggin cult dude
As an exjw its always interesting to find out info on other cults so it would be a fun to see more videos on this theme. Keep upp the good work Panda.🤘
Tbh I'm dating a Mormon and he is actually a very good person who never tried to convert me bc he doesn't want to control me and my believes. His family also never tried to convert me into their religion, all they cared about was his well-being and happiness. The same with him around him and my friends, he doesn't talk about religion much. And he finds the South Park episode very funny
@@magicalpasta5462 Good for you! Are you religious in any way? Usually these groups accept people like Christians more openly than straight up atheist that’s why I’m wondering. Also, did you ever talk about having kids and if yes, how do you plan to handle their education in that regard?
@@shannonhollister4009 Please do not get involved with the mormons or witnesses.You will be love bombed at first,then before you realise it you are in a controlling environment by religion whose teachings differ dramatically from the mainstream religions.I know from the experience of a cousin in the witnesses.Heartbreaking. 😡😡
@@shannonhollister4009unironically the church of satan is pretty chill lmao. Fr though, this is up to you. You don’t have to be religious or you can be religious. It’s all your choice
@@affinityxs humanitarian aid, temples, paying for all the utilities of buildings like meeting houses or temples. $265 billion is everything, including assets, and temples are expensive, and so if operating them and the roughly 31k congregatons.
At 19.54, you mention the beauty of Mormon Temples. The beautiful temple in Oakland, CA has a very unique feature: It is the only temple with 5 spires. High up in the Oakland hills, this temple provides spectacular views of the San Francisco Bay area and I visit several times a year on clear days and nights. Watching 4th of July fireworks from up there is a special treat.
Fantastic video, I grew up LDS (Mormon) and can see you did a lot of studying to get your facts accurate. the only thing I would say is in regards to the leaders of the LDS church. they see themselves as human and make mistakes often. not a lot of people think that they are infallible there are a few weirdos that believe they are mistake less but that is very few. other then that Ima subscribe because you did a fantastic job explaining a unique religious culture without bashing or degrading.
I live a 5-minute drive from Kirtland, where the first Mormon church is located. I'm aware of at least two Kingdom Halls nearby, which take about 2-3 minutes to reach if I catch the traffic light. Interestingly, I've never come across another Mormon church in this area. I just checked, and it turns out the closest one is a 20-minute drive away, followed by another that's 30 minutes away. All I’m gonna say about the JWs out here is they could very easily be a part of our community. They are very close to our downtown and have a giant parking lot. I’m only aware of this parking lot because I’ve been picking my roommate up on Sunday mornings from work. It’s like the bright red ‘parking lot full’ sign is invisible until the last second, and when a Honda Odyssey slams their brakes on in front of me and does a Dallas dive down across traffic and down a side street. It’s just very confusing if they want us heathens to convert or if the art festival is “too worldly”.
I think this is overall not an unfair representation of the LDS faith. What I think is a much bigger difference between JW and LDS (at least in my understanding) is how members of both groups interact with the world and especially former members. There is a thirst among LDS for friendship with people who are different that just isn't found anywhere in JW. And shunning isn't really a thing. The fact that probably more than half of LDS members don't attend (at least not often) and there is no real expectation of something bad happening to them eternally is quite a bit more in line with the view of mainline Christian churches than it is with JW
There's plenty of shunning in LDS world. My family was outraged when I told them I was correcting my mother's mistakes and taking my kids back to Catholicism (I was born LDS but have found God after leaving that creepy Utah nonsense)
Be it Mormon or JW....it never ceases to amaze me how these religionists/cults could attract anyone. Must be legions of intellectual bindle stiffs roaming the world. Very sad.
unfortunately like moss religions, children that are born into it are indoctrinated by their parents, then when the kids grow up to have children the cycle continues. Also some people are just more vulnerable to manipulation and cult tactics.
As a Trinitarian, I welcome the day Jehovahs witnesses and Mormons turn up to my door coincidentally at the same time. Can you imagine what an interesting day that would be?
It depends - when I was a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ, there were a couple times we ran into preaching JW's - they tended to either be 1) really nice and not want to talk much or 2) bible bash and name call. But that was just my experience. :D
An interesting combo. Both are non-Trinitarian, Christian-inspired religions, but their respective non-Trinitarian theologies are about as contrarian as can be. JWs are monotheists who reject the divinity of Christ and deny the Holy Spirit personhood. LDS are polytheists who believe that Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three seperate deities, and that even the Holy Spirit has a body.
@@OntheOtherHandVideossame they either avoided us like the plague or were nice and dismissed the interaction quickly. Or they were bitter and wanted to bash, I had more negative interaction than good ones.
I am a fully active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. While serving my two year mission, I encountered many Jehovah’s witnesses, they even invited us to their Passover service which was cool. While I heavily disagree with them theologically, I have found that most JW’s are very good people. The cult label is thrown around way too much and needs to stop.
As a Mormon, your description was fair. The only thing materially incorrect was that our prophets and apostles do not claim to be infallible. Joseph Smith said that a prophet is only a prophet when acting in his formal calling. They can and do make mistakes. We now admit that we were wrong in the past (racism and other historical claims) and that all men are products of their time.
Racism hasn't been removed, they still have the dumb story that God is turning people's skin black to make them less attractive... 😂 The last missionaries I spoke with even tried to defend it lol
Brigham Young preached the Adam-God doctrine at one of the general conferences, so he spoke as a prophet then. According to what you write here, it's hard to know what teachings to trust isn't it? And don't tell me I can just get a prompting because I'm sure nearly everyone in attendance hearing the prophet speak received promptings he was preaching the truth. . . or was everyone there deceived?
So if this is true, why would you ever trust what your prophet says if its simply a product of the times and will be overruled in a few years, much like the name Mormon?
This video was real informative, all I’ve learned about Mormons is from the Jodi arias case and from people comparing JW and Mormons. Also,If you change the lyrics on some JW songs they could be real bangers. I couldn’t help but sing that bethel song.
Really? Jodi Arias became baptized LDS with the hope that Travis would marry her. He did have sex with her outside of marriage which forbidden in the Bible. How about you pick up a book that is not bashing a religion you know nothing about. There’s also a website you can visit that visit that for accurate information. I know many JW’s and their faith is nothing like LDS faith. The only 2 similarities is non-trinitarian and we spread the world of Gid from knocking on doors. It is stated in the Bible that we must spread the gospel of Our Lord and Jesus Christ. We are not controlled, manipulated,and have a very normal life minus alcohol, smoking etc. I can’t watch much more.🤮
@Plasma_Snake yes. Many non-LDS people live in SLC itself and in many of the cities. Provo is basically all LDS but ranks as the happiest city in America. Nobody will bother you if you’re not LDS. Your neighbors just might be super nice if they are LDS. There’s no pressure to convert. There is Starbucks, restaurants and bars that serve alcohol and lots of things to do. I only have one family member out of my rather large family that lives in Utah. Most live east of the Mississippi River and prefer it that way.
@Plasma_Snake 50% of SLC is not LDS. You would be welcomed into the community just like any other person. There are churches on every corner but it wouldn’t have anything to do with you. You’d just have your own life like any other person. Many people moved in from California due to housing prices. They weren’t and are not LDS. There are churches and other religions all over Utah including Hindus and Muslims. It’s just like anywhere else, be nice to them and they’ll be nice to you. You cannot be nice to them and most likely, they’ll still be nice to you. If you’re thinking of moving their for a job opportunity or because of the mountains and so many things to do then go visit. I have a friend that’s Orthodox Jewish who moved there and loves it. It’s just a matter of your likes and dislikes in any community.
Can you make a comparison video between JWs and the Bible Students? As witnesses we were taught that we were called “Bible students” and then Rutherford changed it to “Jehovah’s Witnesses”. But that’s only HALF the story. The “Bible Students” did come from Charles Taze Russell, but they were also a group that strayed away after Russell died. The “Bible Students” were the people who didn’t like RUTHERFORD’S teachings, so today they evolved into the “Chicago bible students”, the “dawn bible students”, and so on. And these other religions from russell STILL EXIST TODAY😅 it’s like 2 million of them all over the world. And back then when the “Bible students” disconnected from Joseph Rutherford, Rutherford got mad and decided to change HIS followers names to “Jehovah’s Witnesses”, so that everyone can tell the difference between HIS followers and the people that LEFT him. He even went to the extreme to change the word “churches” into “kingdom halls” so that he can really stand out in the world.🙊
@@zissler1doubting the dogma is forbidden, tithing is enforced, shunning the ex-members, charismatic leader who makes the rules, high-control environment, us vs them mentality... etc. The BITE model checks out.
@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 How does any of that compare to any other religion in Christianity? How would you like your religion judged by the same measure, or are you some Atheist believing all religions are cults? Doubting the dogma is forbidden? Don't most Christians believe if you doubt Christ you go to hell? Tithing isn't enforced, but you don't get member benefits like going to the temple, I've never heard of any punishments past that. Shunning ex members? The only time i've heard of shunning is when a christian converts to Mormonism, they will be shunned for certain. Charismatic leader? Honestly most Christians say they have a hard time staying awake listening to our prophet, most pastors are more charismatic. High control environment? how is it high control saying do what the bible actually tells you? If you believe in the bible, does that make you a cult? Us vs them mentality? I've never experienced that more than being by Christians who instantly divide themselves from the church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints, won't call us Christians, won't even acknowledge we follow Jesus Christ, so that we are are divided. Have you ever, ever, had Christians try to include the doctrine of the Chruch of Jesus Christ an anyway, find anything that they believe in ever? I'm not saying evangelicals are cults, but if you are measuring them by that standard they would be.
As...bizarre several of the mormon beliefs and practices are, if I ever were given a choice between them and JW, I would clearly chose them over JW. (I myself am raised secular lutheran and converted to Judaism later in life)
“I hope they get out of a church that believes in things that can’t be proven and restricts them, so they can join MY church that believes in things that can’t be proven and restricts them” Lol
I was a mormon missionary in 2005-07. It was a good time and i made a lot of friends, but ultimately it was a giant waste of time and I wish I used that time to pursue other areas of interest.
My GMA was a JW and one thing I’m thankful for is that was her walk she didn’t celebrate anything but she would give my dad money to go out and buy gifts for Christmas and our birthdays. In all things show love regardless of your religion peeps.
19:36 I live in Shanghai and have always been hearing they are building a temple here but I have never heard of where that construction site is. Curious was Mormonism with Chinese characteristics will look like. Definitely no proselytizing.
I'm Christian, and almost dated a JW woman and a mormon woman, JW and mormon women are very elegant by the way. My grandfather converted to JW while my grandma was from the Presbyterian / Four Square Gospel Church Christian. My dad was raised Christian, thank God. But then my dad married to my mom which was catholic and now she is both catholic and evangelical (normal brazilian stuff). I'm evangelical even though I was raised in a catholic school, but my mom told me to choose to be evangelical or catholic, but never atheist (lomg). I'm evangelical until this day.
I remember my first boyfriends mom hated me at first and I didnt understand why until i found out she was a Jehovahs Witness and I was Mormon lol. It's super interesting to see a break down between the similarities and differences between the two. I'm deconstructing Mormonism myself now.
I'm an ex-mormon, raised extremely devout and traditional (I was a "Molly" mormon). You can be a part of the mormon religion without going to church every Sunday or following all the rules (a "Jack" mormon). There are also "progressive" mormons. Is that a thing for some JWs?
We, Latter-day Saints, emphasize education. In my small branch in Arkansas, we have a female medical doctor, a man with a PhD in biology, a counselor, a lawyer, and me a nurse. To my knowledge, JWs discourage higher education.
My bf’s cousin goes to Brigham young university and she really enjoys it. I’m sure like with all religions, fanatics just give it a bad name. I haven’t met any Mormons other than his family but they seem like good people
I'm a recent member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints (aka mormon) convert. Thanks for this vid, very informative. I bear my testimony that the book of mormon is true and the LDS church is the restored church in the name of Jesus Christ amen.
There’s ZERO archaeological evidence for the tales in the Book of Mormon. Joseph Smith was a scammer and a pedo. The Book of Abraham it’s false as well. The Mormon cult doesn’t resemble at all early Christianity.
@@AngelGuzman-f9c Mormons have always celebrated Christmas and Easter, why would you think they didn't? The Mormon Tabernacle Choir Christmas records have all gone platinum.
I work at a grocery store, and I see people with name tags sometimes. I usually try to look to see which one they are just out of curiosity. It can be hard to tell if someone is a Mormon/Moron or a JW.
At 4:33, there a supposed explanation of how Christians see God, which is in gross error. We do not believe that the members of the Trinity are "one person" as the narrator said. He is one in essence (i.e., one in being) yet three in person. "Being" and "person" are two distinct categories, and as man has only the one person in one being frame of reference, this is surely a mystery. No one should be surprised, however, that God cannot be fully comprehended by his creation. He is wholly other, and only a truly arrogant, foolish individual would make such a claim.
Out of the two JWs are more like Christians the Mormons are so different calling them Christian’s is like call Muslims Christian’s it’s not an accurate thing to say
When I first saw the thumbnail I thought it said “What’s the difference between MORONS and Jehovahs Witnesses” I thought well, nothing really but wanted to see. 😂
@chimerastonewall3471 I'm really happy for you man. When you start seeing the truth/reality there's no going back to sanctioned slavery. But it's kind of a lonely road.
There's mormon made comedy film called Mobsters and Mormons where a Mafia family gets sent to live in Utah under the FBI's witness protection program. And in it the son mentions an idea for a prank in which he would give Mormon Missionaries the addresses of JW members and give JW members mormons addresses and have them show up to proselytize to each other. Well there's a deleted where he actually manages to give mormon missionaries the address of the local kingdom hall and they show up thinking its an opportunity to preach😂
I never minded them (LDS & JW) coming over, but it makes me laugh at how fast they leave when I mention I'm Pagan. Sometimes, one will stay and have a respectful conversation with me.
That ending, "... and Stay Away From The Tower" gets me. 😊 Reminds me of Apostate Prophet and how he ends his videos with, "... and Stay Away From Islam."
I wasn't a JDub but I was babtized Mormon when I was 10. Did you know the phrase "and it came to pass" is used approximately 1,430 times in the book of Mormon?!
A few things I know difference between The Two (Let me know if I get any wrong) M: Everyone goes to some form of heaven, even if that heaven is outer darkness J: Only the elite goto heaven (not all Jw's) Just those ptivilidged arsehats, and anyone they claim that does. M: Billions of sprit wives, potentially your own star, and you become a gawd yourself after you smurf that is. J: Only the Elite goto heaven, 1 wife that i am aware of Equal terms - Both are racist against certain minorities and women, not giving them temple privileges, Women are second-class citizens, cannot gain priesthood, or higher up positions M: Certain classes of it promote smurfing of apostates, Polygamy, and isolation in gated communities, in direct opposition to the laws of the land Equally Both M: Fundies promote shunning, hatred of apostates on equal terms to J's Shunning practices, however Fundie M: Can literally smurf those those that refuse to follow, or leave. J: supposedly 1 god, 1 Jesus, though hard to consider if they think it is same god, or not. M: Billions of gods, Yahweh, as clearly a separate entity to God Jesus, Satan is a god, virtually every bible hero a god, Moroni a god, and so on. You can become a god too , after you smurf that is - If You pay the church enough money. There is some similarities between fundamental Mormonism, and current practices of JW's Becoming an apostate of Mormonism, does not 100% deny the other members of thinking you exist however to my knowledge
Wow I didn't know Mormons have several Gods (that's a son in regular Christianity to now down to fake Gods), I just assumed they had some weird rules and things but otherwise that they like Christians believed you get to heaven through Jesus. They never talk about this openly though, cults love to get followers by deceiving people , here by making people believe they are just like regular Christians. JWs are not honest either about what they believe in.
Correction, Joseph Smith wasn't the Founder of the church neither he owns it. It was founded by Jesus Christ and Joseph Smith was just simply the one who restores it
Late to the party, and an ex Mormon. Very Mormon. My grandfather was just under the Apostles in rank. I have only one correction, and one fun fact; First, the building that Mormons meet in for regular Sunday service is called a stakehouse. A ward is what other religions call a congregation. 3 to 4 wards will use the same stakehouse each Sunday, at staggered times. You belong to the ward that covers your neighborhood, your neighbors. It's not like Baptists, who can pick the congregation that suits them, the subtle variations. There are no variations in LDS services. Kinda like McDonald's. You get the exact same thing wherever you go, so may as well go to your own ward. Fun fact! The rites and ceremonies, the super sacred, that took place in the LDS temples changed significantly in the late 80s or early 90s. Coincidentally at the same time a former Freemason released all the secret rites and ceremonies of that religion. Yeah. Same rites and ceremonies. But it was already well known that Joseph Smith's father was a Freemason.
please don't misuse the term cult. cults are full of only evil and both these religions are full of people trying to help others. look at that actual cults and you will see that neither of these fit the bill.
Hi there… I totally respect and value your opinion on this.. however I disagree with you entirely.. and I still think they are cults for the most part and so my original comment stands.. but thanks nonetheless for your thoughtful reply… Adios;)
The JW"s contradict themselves. They changed the verses about saints being resurrected, but their Greek translation backs up the resurrection of the saints! LOL
The distinct similarity is their insistence on strict adherence to the organization of the church. It’s one’s practice of ritualistic behaviors and traditions that keeps them connected to God and hopeful for the afterlife. Neither can profess an assurance of their salvation as they don’t or won’t know if their works and behaviors will merit His favor.
What is the difference between Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons both need to repent and give their lives to Jesus other otherwise they going to spend a few million years in hell
@@theqwertyman9309 No. Witnesses and Mormons worship false gods, not the God found in scripture. In fact none of the teachings from these cults can be found in scripture...both cults have written their own "bibles."
The Christadelphians are also a Restorationist, Adventist, baptism by immersion, anti-trinitarian group. Each congregation is considered autonomous so there is no central authority. Because of this there are no standardised rules on shunning and disfellowship but shunning and ostracising definitely do happen and cause much suffering and heartache among members and ex members. Church accountability is largely lacking, allowing them to fly under the radar with issues of CSA and other abuses. Are you interested in including them in further religious comparisons?
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the TRUE Church. It's the Church/Gospel that Jesus Christ (Jehovah The God of the Old Testament) organized when He walked upon this earth. Some people who call themselves Christians don't understand what the Bible teaches. They call the Godhead which are 3 different personages, God The Father, Jesus Christ Jehovah Our Savior and the Holy Ghost the Comforter, The Trinity. I guess they believe that when Jesus was baptized the voice from Heaven who said this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased, was Jesus saying that to himself and not God the Father. There are MANY verses in the KJV Bible where Jesus talked about His Father who sent him (now sitteth at his right hand) he taught us how to pray to His Father NOT himself The Lord's Prayer "9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen." I have a STRONG TESTIMONY that The Book of Mormon is TRUE and that the Lord through Joseph Smith RESTORED His Son's Church which bears His Sacred Holy Name😊 Now, why don't you share your beliefs instead of going out of your way to give people misinformation about the TRUE CHURCH.
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They are both dangerous and brainwashed.
Do jw really believe Jahova God has no body ?
one is true and the other has magical underwear
Can you consider doing on SDA and Jehovah witnesses. I see them is very much the same.
You got a few small yet important details wrong in connection to The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints (Mormon), though there are a few very different groups called Mormons. First off, Joseph Smith Jr. wasn't told by God the Father nor Jesus Christ to find Golden Plates, that was a few years later by the Angel of God named Moroni. Joseph Smith Jr. did not write The Book Of Mormon, or even dictate it, he dictated the translation from the Golden Plates that God gave him power to understand. And it wasn't his friends with Joseph Smith Jr. who practiced polygamy, like Abraham, Jacob, Moses and David under the permission and guidance of God, only those called by God could practice polygamy in this church, and were free to refuse like any other calling. During the 50 years or so that polygamy was practiced, only 5% of men, and 25-50% of women were involved. Anyone practicing without being commanded by God were Excommunicated from the church if they didn't repent. Joseph Smith Jr. only took on political positions as needed, until his run for President, campaigning to end Slavery, the first religious leader in America to publicly do so. "Mormons" settled most of the Western United States of America.
I dated this Mormon guy and whenever we drove buy a Kingdom Hall I’d point and go “look! Your cousins!”
He didn’t think it was funny
You’re lucky he didn’t use the powers of Kolob to slay you for heresy. 😂
😂😂😂 your sense of humor is on point
😂😂😂
😂😂😂 I love your humour!!!
I would think it’s funny. Plus, it’s actually true for my family, lol.
This is a fantastic video! I was raised very casually Mormon and my immediate family converted to Jehovah's Witnesses later on. So glad to be free from both cults, and it's fascinating to learn more about both
both?
@@matthewfarrell6822 yup, both
well define cult because we CLEARLY are not as bad as the JW's@@lukespacewolf
please don't misuse the term cult. cults are full of only evil and both these religions are full of people trying to help others. look at that actual cults and you will see that neither of these fit the bill.
@@twipo912 I do not use the word cult lightly and I am correct in using it here. Even the more well known cults like Johnstown were also full of people simply wanting to do good and find truth. That's how abusive control works. The followers are victims, used as pawns to spread the influence of the abusive, bigoted and even violent leaders. I will not sugarcoat my words about cults, not after all the suicides, human sacrifices (via refusal of blood transfusions), traumatizing LDS wilderness camps and even the murders.
Hey, ex Mormon here. One correction I have is that the salt lake temple isn’t the “main temple” it’s just the most iconic.
Hey, do you know where is the main temple?
@@calvo1002i don’t believe there is a main temple
It is the only one where the first presidency in quorum of the 12 apostles meet weekly. So I would pretty much say that would make it the "Main" temple. I understand what you're saying in that they claim that each temple resides The ability to perform the same ordinances and has the same authority to do so, yet with I believe only one other Temple having a holy of holies, and it being the only one that all the leaders meet in on the constant basis, I would call it the main one. But just my opinion
@@calvo1002I’m not sure if such a thing is. In function at least.
Catholics have the St Peter’s Basilica in Rome f.e., which is significant, but in function or ecclesial hierarchy it’s not different from any other basilica in the world. Just that it’s the most iconic+where the pope lives. Same with the Salt Lake City Temple.
The Salt Lake Temple is actually the "main" Temple in the sense that it is the only one that has a "Holy of Holies", is the only one where live endowment sessions are preformed, and the only one where the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve meet.
It was also, for a time, the only place where Second Anointings were performed.
At time stamp 21:50 minutes the children sing about going to Bethel. The children sing happily, the music is upbeat, and it is called the happiest time they had. Of course, it is the only non preaching vacation a JW family will ever have. For JWs, even if they can afford a vacation, which most can’t because they are suppose to live “modestly”, giving all they can to the organization, they are required or requested to check in to the local congregation in the area they go to,so they can continue with the weekly meetings and preaching work which is to maintain their good standing in the organization. They are never able to get off the hamster wheel, which is a control measure for these high control cults.
Bethel = Paedophile House
I was raised JW and went on vacation yearly, if not more. We visited bethel once while visiting NYC.
Same. Many times a year, actually.
You are totally incorrect.
Social control up to 11.
I'm LDS so can't speak from a JW point of view but I found your video impartial and pretty accurate in most places. You also done a really good job of lacing it with a bit of humour too. Thank you for posting.
The thing active members of LDS should keep in mind: There's Two histories in the Mormon Church. There's the "official history" that the modern day leaders put out in their teachings, books, videos, etc. AND THEN there's the true history of events. Only in the past 20 years has the "official church history" started to include yesterday's anti-mormon lies such polygamy, Adam-God Doctrine, Racism, etc. So when active members come on comment boards and say "Well, you got most correct" You have to ask, is the active member only referring to the modern "official narrative" put out by the church? Non members will often look at what the current historic record shows which has conflicts in the official history. So I'd be interest in what this commenter means when they say "Accurate in most places" and give us some example found in this video.
Repent and submit to Rome!
@movieeastwood2341 Repent and submit to Christ.
@@marstothestars33 the apostles were roman catholic, submit to rome
@@gabby-ue8sh No, they weren't. Also, if you are a fellow Christian, you should find nothing wrong with the statement "submit to Christ." That is, unless you think man-made structures are of a higher authority than God himself.
a small point in the video, but the way you touched on the mormon heavenly mother opened my eyes. my mom always told me that we dont speak of her because if we did people would use her name in vain, but if that was true, why wouldnt we do the same for heavenly father? none of it makes sense anymore. i cant wait to leave.
God bless you. Gtfo of that nonsense asap.
I hope you find Christ for real and not the heretical nonsense made to scam dumbass peasants and losers in the 1800s
Yes, that's a common 'reason' people within the Church of Jesus Christ can hold - but it is something of an old wives tale.
To quote Elder Renlund:
"Very little has been revealed about Mother in Heaven, but what we do know is summarized in a gospel topic found in our Gospel Library application. Once you have read what is there, you will know everything that I know about the subject. I wish I knew more. You too may still have questions and want to find more answers. Seeking greater understanding is an important part of our spiritual development, but please be cautious. Reason cannot replace revelation."
Hope that helps!
I find the Gospel to make a lot of sense, so if you want to talk out any other issues you see I'd be happy to.
Either way, have a good one!
In the words of Jesus Christ the living. "If your leaders say into you, see the kingdom of God is in the sky, then the birds of heaven shall precede you. If they say into you see the kingdom is in the sea! Then the fish shall precede you. Rather the kingdom is within you and it is without you.
@@OntheOtherHandVideos nobody wants to hear you ramble about your silly polygamist cult and their ongoing PR attempts. Seek true faith
And not only that but according to mormo theology, although mother of Mormon Jesus, she's just one wife to the ''heavenly father'' as he has multiple other wives.
As a catholic tbh mormons are not that bad(there may be some) my friend is lds, she cool & me and her would always have conversations abt our religions & we would blow each other's minds from what we learn from each others religion.
Any person from any religion can be really chill, the religion they associated can not tho keep that in mind.
Yeah, maybe in a personal level but in a theological level they are waaaaaaaay off
If she was really cool she'd show you the secret handshakes God uses to let you into celestial kingdom 😂
Mormons having the way more bizzare theology but acting like otherwise normal conservative Christians is deeply funny to me.
Isn’t it insane?!??
Mormons would be so cool if they embraced their interesting and whacky lore instead of generic fundamentalist Christianity.
@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus Dunno how fun it would ultimately be if all Mormon men started having multiple simultanious house-wives so that they could become individual gods of their own planets once they die.
I'm an atheist (raised Lutheran) and it doesn't bother me at all when the LDS missionaries show up on my porch 😊 But for some reason, the JWs make me livid and I've never been able to figure out why. I think it's because the LDS guys show up like mid afternoon to early evening and the JWs show up at like eight on Saturday morning. Anyway, great video, thank you!
Every LDS/Mormon I've interacted with has been nothing but pleasant, but the Jehovah's Witnesses have been the complete opposite. A good friend of mine had neighbors who were JW and they were always rude, hostile & standoffish and rarely speak to anyone outside of the JW Church.
As an ex Mormon, if you don’t want to hear them talk, I beg of you please talk to those boys about video games. They aren’t allowed to participate in any media or hobbies not related to the church for two whole years. Asking them what video games or movies they liked at home will remind them they have a personality outside of the religion.
Ex-mormon, once got punched a in the back on my mission by a guy that thought we were the JW's that had been knocking on his door early in the morning lol
LDS knocking at houses are really friendly while JW stare a glance with you with judgment and arrogancy
The JWs know that preaching door to door is extremely ineffective, they still force their members to affirm the image that outsiders are rude and evil. The Mormons actually do much better at converting people.
The little sound effects make me so happy.
What? Did somebody burp?
Just joking.
😂
orthodox christian here. Generally we consider neither mormons nor JWs christian because their doctrine is so divergent from christianity. Been enjoying the videos, thank you for suffering through all this for us!
ex mormon here, believe me the deeper you dive into mormonism the less Christian it gets 😅. Their really just a polytheistic religion lossly based on the bible. Ironically Jewdaism and islam feel more Christian. Mormons who say they're Christian usually dont really understand orthodox christianity, and like their core attributes. Its not just about the trinity.
So very valid my dude.
It does look kind of weird from the outside when various different groups that call themselves Christians are always saying that they are the only true Christian church and everyone else isn't Christian. It doesn't show a lot of unity. There is a hymn that goes "we pray that our unity will someday be restored".
@jaimetolley2375 most Christians are actually polytheistic as well, although they would never accept that title. There's no WAY they'd accept a label that's also used for those "silly" mythological religions lmfao
@@connorhart7597 please explain. How are most christians polytheist?
@jacobtamminga5560 believing that the trinity is made up of 3 separate entities who serve different purposes/are in a hierarchy of sorts. It's not all denominations, but its quite a few of the more common ones
Not a big fan of the Mormon church but im a fan of their Choir
I’m LDS and the choir teacher at my school is in the choir
I'm not a big fan of Jesus Freaks either
best choirs are in the Catholic music.
The mountain meadows massacre, mormon's MURDERED men, women and CHILDREN, ALL the founding fathers were WOMANIZERS
@@nicolasbascunan4013you got that right! Though the tabernacle choir is definitely talented, their rendition of oh Shenandoah is my favorite
They won’t show up at my doorstep uninvited. They do get nervous about the “No trespassing” signs in the middle of nowhere and a half mile from my house (which cannot be seen from the road).
We’ve had Mormons over due to a family member being one of them.
I don't know, I've been in service quite a lot in the rural areas and most of them couldn't give a sh!t about a no trespassing sign. A driveway or sidewalk is public access. Now, opening someone's gate is a different matter, I'll grant that.
@@Eric_01Well as long as you can count your time ;-)
@@Eric_01 So far I’ve had them write letters, but nobody has walked past 2 cattle gates into an area that’s potentially having people live there in the middle of nowhere. I’d be tickled pink, but they won’t stop here.
Why do Kingdom Halls never have windows? At least not in my area, I’ve always found it odd
That is a great question. The old Halls were built with small windows at the very top. At least the one I grew up did. But that was the only one I’ve ever seen.
I believe it has something to do with the Armaggedon. They believe that they will be protected from the fire when earth burns at the last day. Kingdom halls will be their refuge places.
They'll tell you it's for security. I think it's so people don't get distracted and stare out the windows.
@@cygnustsp that makes sense, aligns with the comment from @2PastNeptune as well
@@2PastNeptunewhen I was in, our kh did have high up windows. But our city building codes require X amount of square footage of the floor for light and ventilation. (I believe it was 15%)
If the windows were sealed type, the ventilation system also needed to be approved by city. The real reason for high windows was that they didn't want you looking out the windows when you got bored, high windows mean you can't see what's going on out in the world. 😢
At least Mormons can build cool churches and temples and have nice sounding choirs. I don’t think Jehovah’s witnesses can do that.
Well, JWs have cute drawings of happy people while Mormons have cringy family reality shows 😂.
They use internal resource as much as possible, but discourage higher education. Architects and designers are in short supply at Bethel I’m afraid
At least JWs has the most translated website which other churches are trying to achieve 😂
Charles Taze Russell and Joseph Smith were in a competition who could make the more outrageous heresy
and both of them did israelite-larp, one calling God the Father "Jehovah" and the other wanting to establish "Zion"
@@shout6892 Nah, Mormons win by far. This guy has a video about a cartoon Mormons made, oh the blasphemy in it is almost unbearable lol
@@cipmaster1 yeah kinda true. at least JWs are still technically monotheistic whereas Mormons are kinda henotheistic (actually also Tritheist since they believe the Trinity are separate gods)
@@shout6892 Don't forget they say Jesus is YHWH and not God, because God is called Elohim lmao
@@cipmaster1 That cartoon was made by evangelicals about Mormons. It was not made by Mormons themselves.
I was raised Mormon , served a mission, served in leadership and was married in the temple . Being raised Mormon was a great way to grown up. I think being raised JW is much harder and isolating.
I'm a Baptist, but i've been going to the LDS church lately. Would you recommend becoming a Mormon? Why or why not?
@@paulaward2075Mormons aren’t Christian. A lot of their beliefs are heresy
@David19746 Not because we believe that the bible is less legitimate fundamentally, we just believe that the book of mormon is a more pure and true version of the gospel as it has been translated from one record one time (according to our beliefs)
@@paulaward2075you need to stop following charismatic faiths and learn some history. The true church existed since Christ's time on earth.
@@paulaward2075go watch a leaked temple video. If you’re still thinking about it, I don’t know what to tell you. Also the only people that go to “hell” in Mormon believe are apostates or ex-Mormons. It’s a friggin cult dude
This was very enlightening. Growing up in the Midwest there was never much differentiation between the two groups.
As an exjw its always interesting to find out info on other cults so it would be a fun to see more videos on this theme.
Keep upp the good work Panda.🤘
Same
Tbh I'm dating a Mormon and he is actually a very good person who never tried to convert me bc he doesn't want to control me and my believes. His family also never tried to convert me into their religion, all they cared about was his well-being and happiness. The same with him around him and my friends, he doesn't talk about religion much. And he finds the South Park episode very funny
youre very lucky
Wish you two all the best
Just because he "don't want to" now, it doesn't mean that he will not do it later.
@@prkp7248 he doesn't want to control me and manipulate me like my exes
@@magicalpasta5462 Good for you! Are you religious in any way? Usually these groups accept people like Christians more openly than straight up atheist that’s why I’m wondering.
Also, did you ever talk about having kids and if yes, how do you plan to handle their education in that regard?
Both are dangerous controlling Cults. Avoid like the plague.
What church should I go too?
@@shannonhollister4009 Please do not get involved with the mormons or witnesses.You will be love bombed at first,then before you realise it you are in a controlling environment by religion whose teachings differ dramatically from the mainstream religions.I know from the experience of a cousin in the witnesses.Heartbreaking. 😡😡
@@shannonhollister4009episcopalian
@@shannonhollister4009unironically the church of satan is pretty chill lmao. Fr though, this is up to you. You don’t have to be religious or you can be religious. It’s all your choice
Great breakdown. Long live the panda!
300 billion dollars
For what?
Actually the church is worth 245 billion
what will they do with all that money? buy private jets and fancy cribs?
No they use the money for private purposes such as temples and meeting halls..
@@affinityxs humanitarian aid, temples, paying for all the utilities of buildings like meeting houses or temples. $265 billion is everything, including assets, and temples are expensive, and so if operating them and the roughly 31k congregatons.
Could you do a video about 7 Day Adventists please?
At 19.54, you mention the beauty of Mormon Temples. The beautiful temple in Oakland, CA has a very unique feature: It is the only temple with 5 spires.
High up in the Oakland hills, this temple provides spectacular views of the San Francisco Bay area and I visit several times a year on clear days and nights. Watching 4th of July fireworks from up there is a special treat.
How do you visit it? Are you a mormon?
Fantastic video, I grew up LDS (Mormon) and can see you did a lot of studying to get your facts accurate. the only thing I would say is in regards to the leaders of the LDS church. they see themselves as human and make mistakes often. not a lot of people think that they are infallible there are a few weirdos that believe they are mistake less but that is very few. other then that Ima subscribe because you did a fantastic job explaining a unique religious culture without bashing or degrading.
Great video! Really enjoyed it
I live a 5-minute drive from Kirtland, where the first Mormon church is located. I'm aware of at least two Kingdom Halls nearby, which take about 2-3 minutes to reach if I catch the traffic light. Interestingly, I've never come across another Mormon church in this area. I just checked, and it turns out the closest one is a 20-minute drive away, followed by another that's 30 minutes away.
All I’m gonna say about the JWs out here is they could very easily be a part of our community. They are very close to our downtown and have a giant parking lot. I’m only aware of this parking lot because I’ve been picking my roommate up on Sunday mornings from work. It’s like the bright red ‘parking lot full’ sign is invisible until the last second, and when a Honda Odyssey slams their brakes on in front of me and does a Dallas dive down across traffic and down a side street. It’s just very confusing if they want us heathens to convert or if the art festival is “too worldly”.
I think this is overall not an unfair representation of the LDS faith. What I think is a much bigger difference between JW and LDS (at least in my understanding) is how members of both groups interact with the world and especially former members. There is a thirst among LDS for friendship with people who are different that just isn't found anywhere in JW. And shunning isn't really a thing. The fact that probably more than half of LDS members don't attend (at least not often) and there is no real expectation of something bad happening to them eternally is quite a bit more in line with the view of mainline Christian churches than it is with JW
There's plenty of shunning in LDS world. My family was outraged when I told them I was correcting my mother's mistakes and taking my kids back to Catholicism (I was born LDS but have found God after leaving that creepy Utah nonsense)
@@georgerafa5041 And any shunning is actively taught against in the Church of Jesus Christ.
@@georgerafa5041 Ofc it was in Utah bro, I'm a mormon in AZ and lots of people agree that most of the crazy fanatical members come from/live in Utah.
@@OntheOtherHandVideos that's nice. So what do they teach in Mormonism?
@@BerryBoyXD ya that totally makes a difference! I'm a SoCal native and live in Prescott now but what do I know
Be it Mormon or JW....it never ceases to amaze me how these religionists/cults could attract anyone. Must be legions of intellectual bindle stiffs roaming the world. Very sad.
Bro The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints isn’t a cult
@@LunaQuads is*
@@antimony4127 …… how are we a cult?
@@LunaQuads look up the definition of cult
unfortunately like moss religions, children that are born into it are indoctrinated by their parents, then when the kids grow up to have children the cycle continues. Also some people are just more vulnerable to manipulation and cult tactics.
As a Trinitarian, I welcome the day Jehovahs witnesses and Mormons turn up to my door coincidentally at the same time.
Can you imagine what an interesting day that would be?
It depends - when I was a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ, there were a couple times we ran into preaching JW's - they tended to either be 1) really nice and not want to talk much or 2) bible bash and name call. But that was just my experience. :D
An interesting combo. Both are non-Trinitarian, Christian-inspired religions, but their respective non-Trinitarian theologies are about as contrarian as can be. JWs are monotheists who reject the divinity of Christ and deny the Holy Spirit personhood. LDS are polytheists who believe that Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three seperate deities, and that even the Holy Spirit has a body.
I was a LDS missionary in Brazil. Generally JWs weren't interested in talking with us.
@@OntheOtherHandVideossame they either avoided us like the plague or were nice and dismissed the interaction quickly.
Or they were bitter and wanted to bash, I had more negative interaction than good ones.
I was raised JW and my boyfriend was raised Mormon, now we’re both PIMO’s for our respective family’s religions. Coincidences are crazy
Are u a dude
I am a fully active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. While serving my two year mission, I encountered many Jehovah’s witnesses, they even invited us to their Passover service which was cool. While I heavily disagree with them theologically, I have found that most JW’s are very good people. The cult label is thrown around way too much and needs to stop.
As a Mormon, your description was fair. The only thing materially incorrect was that our prophets and apostles do not claim to be infallible. Joseph Smith said that a prophet is only a prophet when acting in his formal calling. They can and do make mistakes. We now admit that we were wrong in the past (racism and other historical claims) and that all men are products of their time.
Racism hasn't been removed, they still have the dumb story that God is turning people's skin black to make them less attractive... 😂 The last missionaries I spoke with even tried to defend it lol
I agree
Brigham Young preached the Adam-God doctrine at one of the general conferences, so he spoke as a prophet then. According to what you write here, it's hard to know what teachings to trust isn't it?
And don't tell me I can just get a prompting because I'm sure nearly everyone in attendance hearing the prophet speak received promptings he was preaching the truth. . . or was everyone there deceived?
So if this is true, why would you ever trust what your prophet says if its simply a product of the times and will be overruled in a few years, much like the name Mormon?
@@mcdonaldpuddin they are good people. And there is so much proof. He predicted Covid.
This video was real informative, all I’ve learned about Mormons is from the Jodi arias case and from people comparing JW and Mormons. Also,If you change the lyrics on some JW songs they could be real bangers. I couldn’t help but sing that bethel song.
Really? Jodi Arias became baptized LDS with the hope that Travis would marry her. He did have sex with her outside of marriage which forbidden in the Bible. How about you pick up a book that is not bashing a religion you know nothing about. There’s also a website you can visit that visit that for accurate information. I know many JW’s and their faith is nothing like LDS faith. The only 2 similarities is non-trinitarian and we spread the world of Gid from knocking on doors. It is stated in the Bible that we must spread the gospel of Our Lord and Jesus Christ. We are not controlled, manipulated,and have a very normal life minus alcohol, smoking etc. I can’t watch much more.🤮
@@aspenenglish4976 what? I wasn’t looking for information that bashed the LDS. I’m into true crime and Mormons were mentioned in the case.
@Plasma_Snake yes. Many non-LDS people live in SLC itself and in many of the cities. Provo is basically all LDS but ranks as the happiest city in America. Nobody will bother you if you’re not LDS. Your neighbors just might be super nice if they are LDS. There’s no pressure to convert. There is Starbucks, restaurants and bars that serve alcohol and lots of things to do. I only have one family member out of my rather large family that lives in Utah. Most live east of the Mississippi River and prefer it that way.
@Plasma_Snake 50% of SLC is not LDS. You would be welcomed into the community just like any other person. There are churches on every corner but it wouldn’t have anything to do with you. You’d just have your own life like any other person. Many people moved in from California due to housing prices. They weren’t and are not LDS. There are churches and other religions all over Utah including Hindus and Muslims. It’s just like anywhere else, be nice to them and they’ll be nice to you. You cannot be nice to them and most likely, they’ll still be nice to you. If you’re thinking of moving their for a job opportunity or because of the mountains and so many things to do then go visit. I have a friend that’s Orthodox Jewish who moved there and loves it. It’s just a matter of your likes and dislikes in any community.
I am a member if you have any questions.
Wow. You taught me a lot . Thx for all you do. Truly appreciate ya.
ex mormon here, 6:54, I don't remember hearing a single thing about her, since when has she existed?
I meant 5:54
Can you make a comparison video between JWs and the Bible Students? As witnesses we were taught that we were called “Bible students” and then Rutherford changed it to “Jehovah’s Witnesses”. But that’s only HALF the story.
The “Bible Students” did come from Charles Taze Russell, but they were also a group that strayed away after Russell died. The “Bible Students” were the people who didn’t like RUTHERFORD’S teachings, so today they evolved into the “Chicago bible students”, the “dawn bible students”, and so on. And these other religions from russell STILL EXIST TODAY😅 it’s like 2 million of them all over the world.
And back then when the “Bible students” disconnected from Joseph Rutherford, Rutherford got mad and decided to change HIS followers names to “Jehovah’s Witnesses”, so that everyone can tell the difference between HIS followers and the people that LEFT him.
He even went to the extreme to change the word “churches” into “kingdom halls” so that he can really stand out in the world.🙊
Well, both cults with terrible backgrounds.
you could say that about any religion
Can you name one thing that makes them a cult?
@@zissler1doubting the dogma is forbidden, tithing is enforced, shunning the ex-members, charismatic leader who makes the rules, high-control environment, us vs them mentality... etc. The BITE model checks out.
@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 How does any of that compare to any other religion in Christianity? How would you like your religion judged by the same measure, or are you some Atheist believing all religions are cults? Doubting the dogma is forbidden? Don't most Christians believe if you doubt Christ you go to hell? Tithing isn't enforced, but you don't get member benefits like going to the temple, I've never heard of any punishments past that. Shunning ex members? The only time i've heard of shunning is when a christian converts to Mormonism, they will be shunned for certain. Charismatic leader? Honestly most Christians say they have a hard time staying awake listening to our prophet, most pastors are more charismatic. High control environment? how is it high control saying do what the bible actually tells you? If you believe in the bible, does that make you a cult? Us vs them mentality? I've never experienced that more than being by Christians who instantly divide themselves from the church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints, won't call us Christians, won't even acknowledge we follow Jesus Christ, so that we are are divided. Have you ever, ever, had Christians try to include the doctrine of the Chruch of Jesus Christ an anyway, find anything that they believe in ever? I'm not saying evangelicals are cults, but if you are measuring them by that standard they would be.
@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 this doesn't apply that well to Mormons. Some things, a little at most others...not at all.
As...bizarre several of the mormon beliefs and practices are, if I ever were given a choice between them and JW, I would clearly chose them over JW.
(I myself am raised secular lutheran and converted to Judaism later in life)
I pray for my JW and LDS brethren, they have been misled and I pray their passion can be utilized by a worthy church and doctrine.
I have LDS thanks for the prayer though and I hope you stay safe and prosperous.
“I hope they get out of a church that believes in things that can’t be proven and restricts them, so they can join MY church that believes in things that can’t be proven and restricts them”
Lol
Wasn't Russell the " Laodicean prophet " ? It used to be written on his pyramid tomb...
Well done on a good job
I was a mormon missionary in 2005-07. It was a good time and i made a lot of friends, but ultimately it was a giant waste of time and I wish I used that time to pursue other areas of interest.
My GMA was a JW and one thing I’m thankful for is that was her walk she didn’t celebrate anything but she would give my dad money to go out and buy gifts for Christmas and our birthdays. In all things show love regardless of your religion peeps.
19:36 I live in Shanghai and have always been hearing they are building a temple here but I have never heard of where that construction site is. Curious was Mormonism with Chinese characteristics will look like. Definitely no proselytizing.
I can't speak about JW but for the church of jesus you have done a wonderful work
4:05 who is that one dude in the suspicious round shades? He is behind the guy who looks less than amused with Rutherford
Lee Harvey Oswald
I'm Christian, and almost dated a JW woman and a mormon woman, JW and mormon women are very elegant by the way. My grandfather converted to JW while my grandma was from the Presbyterian / Four Square Gospel Church Christian. My dad was raised Christian, thank God. But then my dad married to my mom which was catholic and now she is both catholic and evangelical (normal brazilian stuff). I'm evangelical even though I was raised in a catholic school, but my mom told me to choose to be evangelical or catholic, but never atheist (lomg). I'm evangelical until this day.
That's wild
I’m an agnostic atheist. Pretty good life post religious life.
Do you know how to report if someone from the mormon cult lives in your neighborhood?
Us Catholics do not recognize either as Christians, but heretical denominations.
Exmormon here. Can confirm, they a cult
So.... like Protestants for hundreds of years then?
You Catholics are the biggest heretics of all
Us Protestants don’t recognize them either.
Not us orthodox either
The watchtower isn’t above the Bible however, the organization is called Watchtower Bible and tract society. Notice the order of importance.
My 2 sisters are Mormon and they had to give me a Book of Mormon one time and the look on their face was actually hilarious 😆
Can you do videos on The Seventh-Day Adventists
Jaw dropped listening to this. So many parallels to the cult I grew up in. Sent you an email
I remember my first boyfriends mom hated me at first and I didnt understand why until i found out she was a Jehovahs Witness and I was Mormon lol. It's super interesting to see a break down between the similarities and differences between the two. I'm deconstructing Mormonism myself now.
Watch The Mormon Stories Podcast.
Good for you! I do hope you take a look at historic trinitarian Christianity.
How about doing a comparison between JW, Mormons, and the Church, if any, you adhere to?
I'm an ex-mormon, raised extremely devout and traditional (I was a "Molly" mormon). You can be a part of the mormon religion without going to church every Sunday or following all the rules (a "Jack" mormon). There are also "progressive" mormons. Is that a thing for some JWs?
any comparison highlights how boring JW's are . Do a comparison to Amish and I'm sure the Amish will look like Burning Man comparitively.
Bro please continue this series
We, Latter-day Saints, emphasize education. In my small branch in Arkansas, we have a female medical doctor, a man with a PhD in biology, a counselor, a lawyer, and me a nurse. To my knowledge, JWs discourage higher education.
I hope you find the real Jesus
Russel m Nelson gave a full talk on the importance of higher education
My bf’s cousin goes to Brigham young university and she really enjoys it. I’m sure like with all religions, fanatics just give it a bad name. I haven’t met any Mormons other than his family but they seem like good people
@@rhymerlegend2717 we don't need to find him because we already worshipped him from the very beginning
Thank you for this. I've now watched a few of your clips, and have decided to Subscribe. Fascinating!
I'm a recent member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints (aka mormon) convert. Thanks for this vid, very informative. I bear my testimony that the book of mormon is true and the LDS church is the restored church in the name of Jesus Christ amen.
Ya sure buddy
@@Ssm19494I’m not Mormon but it is horrible how people treat them. Imagine if someone said that about Muslims or jews
@@reeeeeeeman8792thank you. It is horrible. you don’t treat other churches like that.
@@reeeeeeeman8792 they would be saying the truth anyways
There’s ZERO archaeological evidence for the tales in the Book of Mormon. Joseph Smith was a scammer and a pedo. The Book of Abraham it’s false as well. The Mormon cult doesn’t resemble at all early Christianity.
Members of the LDS church celebrate Christmas and Easter while Jehovas dont do that.
Never met a Mormie that celebrate them.. maybe they can now?
The one cult falls from the horse the one side, the other the offer side.
@@AngelGuzman-f9c Mormons have always celebrated Christmas and Easter, why would you think they didn't? The Mormon Tabernacle Choir Christmas records have all gone platinum.
Can we talk about the fact that the ancient Nephites are always portrayed as absolutely yoked out of their minds?
Thanks
I work at a grocery store, and I see people with name tags sometimes. I usually try to look to see which one they are just out of curiosity. It can be hard to tell if someone is a Mormon/Moron or a JW.
JWs are less likely to wear suspenders, wear any body accessories, and are generally less educated.
jw’s dont usually come in with name tags..
@@whatsthestorymorninglory Sometimes they have name tags.
Usually, if JW’s do have name tags, it means that there’s a convention somewhere in town. That’s the only instance I can think of
At 4:33, there a supposed explanation of how Christians see God, which is in gross error. We do not believe that the members of the Trinity are "one person" as the narrator said. He is one in essence (i.e., one in being) yet three in person. "Being" and "person" are two distinct categories, and as man has only the one person in one being frame of reference, this is surely a mystery. No one should be surprised, however, that God cannot be fully comprehended by his creation. He is wholly other, and only a truly arrogant, foolish individual would make such a claim.
Out of the two JWs are more like Christians the Mormons are so different calling them Christian’s is like call Muslims Christian’s it’s not an accurate thing to say
Is worshipping Jesus Christ not christian enough? Then what will?
@ no Mormons aren’t Christian get angry about all you want. If you want to sincerely be considered Christian then convert.
When I first saw the thumbnail I thought it said “What’s the difference between MORONS and Jehovahs Witnesses” I thought well, nothing really but wanted to see. 😂
I remember when I was the SDA people, keep on getting me confused with Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons
😂😂😂how deep SDA were you?
@@altopatraogee6630 I was a really big Seventh-day Adventist
@chimerastonewall3471 I'm really happy for you man. When you start seeing the truth/reality there's no going back to sanctioned slavery. But it's kind of a lonely road.
There's mormon made comedy film called Mobsters and Mormons where a Mafia family gets sent to live in Utah under the FBI's witness protection program. And in it the son mentions an idea for a prank in which he would give Mormon Missionaries the addresses of JW members and give JW members mormons addresses and have them show up to proselytize to each other. Well there's a deleted where he actually manages to give mormon missionaries the address of the local kingdom hall and they show up thinking its an opportunity to preach😂
Bethel is like Disneyland but less cult-like
BRO what is the music at the start of the vod? plz sounded like ace attorney or a JRPG been looking for a while can't find it help plz
The blind leading the blind
Sums up Christianity as a whole
I never minded them (LDS & JW) coming over, but it makes me laugh at how fast they leave when I mention I'm Pagan. Sometimes, one will stay and have a respectful conversation with me.
@12:27 Panda knew what he said lol
Proud Lds member!
Accurate description of my Church: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
I'd like to see more of these. Thanks Panda.
"any second now" JW in a nutshell
That ending, "... and Stay Away From The Tower" gets me. 😊 Reminds me of Apostate Prophet and how he ends his videos with, "... and Stay Away From Islam."
I wasn't a JDub but I was babtized Mormon when I was 10. Did you know the phrase "and it came to pass" is used approximately 1,430 times in the book of Mormon?!
A few things I know difference between The Two (Let me know if I get any wrong)
M: Everyone goes to some form of heaven, even if that heaven is outer darkness
J: Only the elite goto heaven (not all Jw's) Just those ptivilidged arsehats, and anyone they claim that does.
M: Billions of sprit wives, potentially your own star, and you become a gawd yourself after you smurf that is.
J: Only the Elite goto heaven, 1 wife that i am aware of
Equal terms - Both are racist against certain minorities and women, not giving them temple privileges, Women are second-class citizens, cannot gain priesthood, or higher up positions
M: Certain classes of it promote smurfing of apostates, Polygamy, and isolation in gated communities, in direct opposition to the laws of the land
Equally Both M: Fundies promote shunning, hatred of apostates on equal terms to J's Shunning practices, however Fundie M: Can literally smurf those those that refuse to follow, or leave.
J: supposedly 1 god, 1 Jesus, though hard to consider if they think it is same god, or not.
M: Billions of gods, Yahweh, as clearly a separate entity to God Jesus, Satan is a god, virtually every bible hero a god, Moroni a god, and so on. You can become a god too , after you smurf that is - If You pay the church enough money.
There is some similarities between fundamental Mormonism, and current practices of JW's
Becoming an apostate of Mormonism, does not 100% deny the other members of thinking you exist however to my knowledge
Wow I didn't know Mormons have several Gods (that's a son in regular Christianity to now down to fake Gods), I just assumed they had some weird rules and things but otherwise that they like Christians believed you get to heaven through Jesus. They never talk about this openly though, cults love to get followers by deceiving people , here by making people believe they are just like regular Christians. JWs are not honest either about what they believe in.
Thanks for full of objectivity material good job
Correction, Joseph Smith wasn't the Founder of the church neither he owns it. It was founded by Jesus Christ and Joseph Smith was just simply the one who restores it
Bruh.
@@exjwpandatower It's "The church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints" Not Church of Joseph Smith
@@PapaGelo true!
There’s no proof of that. And the LDS church is not shown to have existed at any point before 1830. Joseph Smith founded it
Late to the party, and an ex Mormon. Very Mormon. My grandfather was just under the Apostles in rank. I have only one correction, and one fun fact;
First, the building that Mormons meet in for regular Sunday service is called a stakehouse. A ward is what other religions call a congregation. 3 to 4 wards will use the same stakehouse each Sunday, at staggered times. You belong to the ward that covers your neighborhood, your neighbors. It's not like Baptists, who can pick the congregation that suits them, the subtle variations. There are no variations in LDS services. Kinda like McDonald's. You get the exact same thing wherever you go, so may as well go to your own ward.
Fun fact! The rites and ceremonies, the super sacred, that took place in the LDS temples changed significantly in the late 80s or early 90s. Coincidentally at the same time a former Freemason released all the secret rites and ceremonies of that religion.
Yeah. Same rites and ceremonies. But it was already well known that Joseph Smith's father was a Freemason.
Up state newyork is really up to something
Excellent presentation, thank you.
Ones a cult and the other is… a cult what do you know they’re both the same hahahahah my bad !
please don't misuse the term cult. cults are full of only evil and both these religions are full of people trying to help others. look at that actual cults and you will see that neither of these fit the bill.
Hi there… I totally respect and value your opinion on this.. however I disagree with you entirely.. and I still think they are cults for the most part and so my original comment stands.. but thanks nonetheless for your thoughtful reply…
Adios;)
@@JOEYDEEZ369 no problem thank you for your courtesy as well
The JW"s contradict themselves. They changed the verses about saints being resurrected, but their Greek translation backs up the resurrection of the saints! LOL
The distinct similarity is their insistence on strict adherence to the organization of the church. It’s one’s practice of ritualistic behaviors and traditions that keeps them connected to God and hopeful for the afterlife. Neither can profess an assurance of their salvation as they don’t or won’t know if their works and behaviors will merit His favor.
I have family in Mormonism that dates back to the Mormon battalion.. it's insane to me that my ancestors got duped by the conman Joseph Smith
What is the difference between Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons both need to repent and give their lives to Jesus other otherwise they going to spend a few million years in hell
...and then some..
That's all of Christianity though...
@@theqwertyman9309
No.
Witnesses and Mormons worship false gods, not the God found in scripture.
In fact none of the teachings from these cults can be found in scripture...both cults have written their own "bibles."
@@mattmurdock2868"but my deathcult is cooler than yours!"
I talked with Mormons. I asked about the paradise . He didn't know anything about it. But Bible talks about.
Can you do the SDAs?
To put it simply, JW's are cult members and Mormons are regular christians.
So close! Theyre both cults
@@saulgoodguy1840 They're* Nope. Just Jehovah's Witnesses,
@oscarmchugh1091 they are most certainly both cults
@@saulgoodguy1840 Nope. Just JW's.
@@oscarmchugh1091 they are both cults
The Christadelphians are also a Restorationist, Adventist, baptism by immersion, anti-trinitarian group. Each congregation is considered autonomous so there is no central authority. Because of this there are no standardised rules on shunning and disfellowship but shunning and ostracising definitely do happen and cause much suffering and heartache among members and ex members. Church accountability is largely lacking, allowing them to fly under the radar with issues of CSA and other abuses. Are you interested in including them in further religious comparisons?
This is giving me a headache!! Why would anyone want or need all these rules and how do you pick which rules are the "real" ones?
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the TRUE Church. It's the Church/Gospel that Jesus Christ (Jehovah The God of the Old Testament) organized when He walked upon this earth. Some people who call themselves Christians don't understand what the Bible teaches. They call the Godhead which are 3 different personages, God The Father, Jesus Christ Jehovah Our Savior and the Holy Ghost the Comforter, The Trinity. I guess they believe that when Jesus was baptized the voice from Heaven who said this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased, was Jesus saying that to himself and not God the Father. There are MANY verses in the KJV Bible where Jesus talked about His Father who sent him (now sitteth at his right hand) he taught us how to pray to His Father NOT himself The Lord's Prayer "9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen." I have a STRONG TESTIMONY that The Book of Mormon is TRUE and that the Lord through Joseph Smith RESTORED His Son's Church which bears His Sacred Holy Name😊 Now, why don't you share your beliefs instead of going out of your way to give people misinformation about the TRUE CHURCH.
So what did i get wrong?
The mormon church believes Jesus is "a" God and brother of Satan
@@exjwpandatowerpretty much nothing.
@@bigtobacco1098and Protestant's believe Jesus created Satan and is a God with multiple personalities which we call a disorder not order.
One is a group of tritheist heretics whilst the other is a group of Arian heretics.