Hey all, thanks for all the comments! Re: downloading the code, the code is on github and its definitely fine for anyone to download and test it, but a word of caution that this is VERY barebones at the moment and i dont think it's suitable for use with the campaign yet. For example i dont think it plays nice with dialogue yet (i.e. you will get butchered in real time while the dialogue is happening). Just a word of caution!
Thinking about this a bit I think I can get this structured so it won't bork the campaign's flow too badly, should have some time to poke at this tomorrow so I'll see if I can sort it out then
Oh also re: pause since lots of people are asking about that, I think b/c of the way I'm doing combat which is basically by forcing everything to remain technically out-of-combat, pausing should actually be pretty simple, I think it's just a matter of clicking the button to drop into turn-based mode. Not 100% sure this actually behaves the way you'd expect a NWN-style RTwP system to behave tho, I will have to mess with it and see
An idea for that dialogue problem is, the combat can start off as turn based for the very first attack rather it's the AI or player. then transition to real time after.
This looks amazing - except, as a lot people mentioned, enemies seem to attack too fast. You can see the enemy attack once at 0:17 and again at 0:20, when it should have taken 6 seconds between attacks (a full turn). I believe this is how it worked in NWN and BG - With multi-attacks still doing the same (if enemy attacks twice, it does every 3 seconds, if it attacks thrice, every 2 seconds). I really hope there is a way to implement this, with enemies & allies respecting their turn timer and not just being able to spam attacks whenever they can. Even if you cant, I still believe a pause function would fix 90% of the potential balancing issues this could have.
Adjustable speed setting somewhere in options would be great. I.e. Full cooldown timings, half timings, quarter, etc and then whatever timing is on this video.
Yes, the enemies do indeed attack too fast! I'm just trying to get the core stuff working right now so I'm not focused at all on balance type things, but yes it is horribly imbalanced the way it is and one big contributor to that is the enemies attacking too quickly
@@Midget9029 I'm not sure yet the best way to do it, but I think there's many ways it could be done. It might need to be condensed into a single multiattack that all strikes the same target, or it could be like eldritch blast in the video where you hit multiple targets that way. Prob will just need to play with it a bit and go with what feels best
@Shutupayou nope. It's called real time with pause. Just like Baldurs Gate I and II. The main benefit is battles are over much, much faster and punchier, which means a dad like me who only gets to sneak away for 45 minutes at a time can get a decent chunk of action AND story completed before being interrupted by the small annoying ones.
@@Shutupayou Nope, because even with pause actions are playing out simultaneously for all characters not in strict turn order. Pause just lets you get better control so it doesn't become about how quickly you can switch from character to character. As the other reply says, BG1 & 2 are RTwP games that work exactly in this fashion (also a bunch of other games in this genre).
Oh my god this is actually really cool!!! One suggestion: if it would be possible to add support for quick bind eg: F1 F2 F3 F4 or 1 2 3 4 for spells that I believe would make even more to pull this thing off, more diablo like style for this wonderful game
This looks awesome. If you pair it with the companion AI mods, then this could be a really fun way to play the game. Is there anyway to have a setting that can lower the enemies attack speed? Since the player has to manually input attacks, it puts them at a disadvantage, especially since the enemies seem to attack really fast.
Ah, I'm still sorting all that stuff out -- this is a super super basic implementation that I just threw together this afternoon -- but def agree the attack speed is a bit much right now. Lots of details to iron out to make this an actually functioning combat mode...
@@TheAwkwardGuy I haven't played that one, the model I have in mind is something like the original NWN -- real time, pausable in single player mode, something like that?
@@tinybike Real time with pause would be amazing! It's a mod that would probably single-handedly increase the game's popularity, especially with that whole crowd of people who just hate turn-based games.
@@tinybike I assume it's the same. In DAO you can walk around and attack freely with a third person behind-the-character camera...But you can also pause to order commands to your party and yourself. I guess someone could play the entire game without pausing at all though if they're quick.
I remember how whenever someone would talk about this possibility, many would say it would be impossible. Just to show what the modding community can achieve 💕💕💕
It is impossible, prolly author wouldn't be able to achieve anything past this and balance would be broken, like he was only able to showcase it by being god-like OP to these NPCs, its unplayable and will not be playable.
I don't think anyone thought it was "impossible". Just that the level design, enemies, companions, health, attack power, buffs/debuffs, etc are all tied to turn based. Not to mention it's a D&D game. It is possible, but it would ruin the game.
@@farrel_ra yeah, they were designed to be played that way from the beginning. All those things I listed were designed to be played real time (with pause) for 1 and 2. Not converting from an existing turn based game
I loved this feature if Pathfinder WOTR and when I played BG3 I was sitting there like..why no real time for us knife and bow people at least. I can't wait to try this for sure, great job!
Subscribed. Holy! I'm only 23 and found myself playing BG1 AND BG2, games almost as old as I am, a few years ago and fell in love. I love BG3 and always knew I was going to go back at some point, and I know when now. Once this mod gets all fleshed out, I'm going to sink so much more time into that game. The turn-based combat works great, but sometimes just takes SO long, and this can speed things up drastically. I'm so excited
Yeah speeding things up was a big part of my motivation for this! Originally I actually just wanted to improve Swarm AI, but it turns out Swarm AI is completely unmapped and undocumented and basically no one knows where it is or how it works, so
Yes, it can be tricky for sure to deal with groups, although pause is now working(-ish) which I think helps a bit ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
Update, pause basically works although it's a bit harsh on the player imo and I'll probably end up adjusting it some ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
I think with time this could be a really great way to play the game, especially for a third-person POV. The game actually looks really good played from over the shoulder camera angle, but obviously that's not a great angle for turn-based gameplay. Modding is simply awesome, new ways to play already great games is what makes PC gaming (despite all its annoyances) truly unique.
Yes, my model for combat is basically NWN (or other RTwP systems, e.g. BG1, BG2, FF7Remake, etc). Pause is basically working although it def needs some tuning ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
Tip: increase spell and ability duration so that control effects keep impactful, also, aiming AOE should be made simpler cuz it usually takes a lot of time, like having the option to snap your cursor to targets when aiming.
It is amazing. IIRC, in Neverrwinter Night 2 fight was quite dynamic, but also not so fast as here 😆, there was also turn-based combat, but turns for everyone happen on the same time, so during turn everyone has action
that would be neat, sorta how FFVII Remake just slows down the action when paused and selecting actions, but ya can still see the action slowly happening
Yeah pause is really nice for systems like this I agree. Pause is basically working although it needs some tuning, it's a bit brutal on the player right now b/c of how the environmental turn works haha ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
Thanks! Idk how mods work for BG3 on consoles but this is 100% done in script extender, if that helps? So if you can run script extender, you should be able to run this
I wish you could collaborate with the developers and release this officially in the game. + As some people said in the comments, maybe if you could add pause it would be better.
This might actually be what causes me to pull the trigger and get the game. Not a fan of turn based games, would rather just play a board game then. Love RTS, and this looks like it can scratch that itch! Good job!
I'm not sure if people are thinking about controlling four characters in large battles while the AI is moving at 800 APM 😆 Still looks really sick and props to the modder.
Agree re: autoattack (or autoaim, autotrack, tab target, anything similar) for sure. And yeah you'd have to sort out AI for companions if running solo, or alternatively just pause combat a lot. (Or play with friends!) Pause is basically working altho still needs some tuning ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
You're awesome. Thanks. I must say that BG2 still hits my nostalgia fiber. Do you think you could implement some pausing? I really wish Larian would have implemented both combat modes. Basically in the base game when you use improved invisibility with stealth advantage and the cleric tricky ability you already are in real time combat
@@RPGLegacy997 I'd like to! My mental model is basically NWN combat. Not sure how to do pausing in bg3 tho, still very early stage on this / trying to figure out the angles
@@tinybike maybe by making use of the turn based mode when outside combat and tricking the game to think we're not in combat. I am not sure. But if you manage to do that it will be one of the most popular mod.
@@RPGLegacy997 pause is basically working although it definitely needs some tuning, "environmental turn" is pretty savage when the enemies are all in real time haha ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
Well I'm not sure it's really ready for you to try yet haha but there is a pause feature, albeit still needs some tuning ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
This looks incredibly promising. How you're gonna deal with all the target selecting? An increase in the hotbar with aiming improvement? Full automatic aiming? Gonna remove friendly fire?
Tbh I'm not sure yet. I do think some kind of persistent targeting/autotracking might be needed. Or maybe just tab target selection the way e.g. WoW does it?
@@tinybike maybe like dragon age inquisition did? There's a pause for certain abilities, which would be quite useful for spells using higher slots to cast and to cast anything you have to aim. Everything else that is point blank, the effect could be just automatic. The biggest trouble would probably be the huge amount of mods with spells that work way too weirdly. Removing friendly fire and going something akin to esometric action games could be a faster solution, if you were to ignore spells and cantrips that mostly serve as utility. Just have the cursor to aim and shoot a barrage of cantrips at anything that crosses it. Easier said than done, but just some random ideas I have no idea how you could implement. Tab targeting would probably be more complicated then having a proper hotbar implemented, since you could run into trouble getting the target you wish to. Maybe games like Titan Quest or even Grim Dawn could serve as some inspiration for you. Anyway, I'm eager to see what this mod will become. Good luck on your work, mate! You certainly picked the curiosity and interest of a huge amount of people
If the full version is made, I think it will be one of the biggest mods ever! I couldn't experience this game because I hate turn-based battles!! I hope you can do this 👌
I can't believe it. A couple of days ago I was thinking how I couldn't enjoy BG3 that much because of the turn based system. Spend like an hour or so scouring the internet looking for a real time mod. Is there a way to donate money towards this ?
Not 100% sure if this is true for all attacks but I think the way it works is, the distance calculation happens when the attack starts, so if you were in range when the attack started then it can still connect. So by moving around quickly and breaking LoS etc you can keep them from locking on and starting the attacks for sure. But I think once they start it, you might get hit!
For sure, I've been mulling this over, have a bunch of different things I want to try here -- tracking is a little too difficult right now and probably people would find it annoying
I can't even tell what is happening. The truth is if the character was not overleveled, he would be overwhelmed by not being able to counter moves he can't tell apart from each other.
It's almost like this is intended to be a proof-of-concept instead of a final release... If only the uploader had mentioned something about that in the video's description!
@@antiquitybandit2275 Yeah, but this is probably something he whipped up in a day's work. Not enough to prove the concept(which requires pausing to be proved).
@@TheBrazilRules So, pausing basically works, although it does sitll need to be tuned imo (it's a bit hard on the player at the moment) ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html (btw definitely true that it's not balanced rn, I'm just trying to sort out the fundamentals, balance is something that would be addressed later if the fundamentals are solid)
is this like baldurs gate 1/2 where you can make a quick pause between each action IF you wanted to? it'd make a faster paced version of the game without the option of sacrificing too much. or you can choose not to pause, and go full real time.
Ah this is the build I've been running in Trials of Tav, it's 18 Monk / 2 Warlock, charisma-stacking build focused on Eldritch Blast but still has the open-hand monk stuff as a backup. Has a very anime-ish feel to it, DBZ or something -- you can punch stuff, you use ki for stuff, but you do most of your dirty work with monster energy blasts :)
It's a cool concept but i don't think there are enough encounters in the game to justify this being a fun way to play, not to mention thinking about certain fights sound like a nightmare, since the developers have made it so that you are always far outnumbered. Yurgir, defending the portal for Halsin, Gortash, Shadowhearts fight with the matriarch, and the encounter with Raphael stand out to me. I can't imagine these battles being fun, just dying pretty much instantly
Right now it's individual but I think it'd be cool to have them attack automatically. Still sorting out what's possible in terms of automating them. I know there are companion AI mods so that might be the way to go. If controlling manually (and not playing with friends) you prob will want to pause combat a lot to issue commands! Pause is basically working now altho still needs tuning ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
You can grab the code from github (github.com/tinybike/Brawl ) if you want, but I haven't packaged it up and put it on nexus or anything yet -- it's still super raw and I wouldn't want to do a release in its current state
It def will need some rebalancing. I'm not worried about balance rn b/c just trying to sort out if the core of this thing works fundamentally. Balance def not a showstopper tho. You can always just pause!
Code's on github rn, feel free to grab it if you really wanna try it but it's pretty rough still! It'll be on nexus when it's ready, assuming I don't encounter any bad showstopper issues that keep it from working...
Hey all, thanks for all the comments! Re: downloading the code, the code is on github and its definitely fine for anyone to download and test it, but a word of caution that this is VERY barebones at the moment and i dont think it's suitable for use with the campaign yet. For example i dont think it plays nice with dialogue yet (i.e. you will get butchered in real time while the dialogue is happening). Just a word of caution!
Thinking about this a bit I think I can get this structured so it won't bork the campaign's flow too badly, should have some time to poke at this tomorrow so I'll see if I can sort it out then
Oh also re: pause since lots of people are asking about that, I think b/c of the way I'm doing combat which is basically by forcing everything to remain technically out-of-combat, pausing should actually be pretty simple, I think it's just a matter of clicking the button to drop into turn-based mode. Not 100% sure this actually behaves the way you'd expect a NWN-style RTwP system to behave tho, I will have to mess with it and see
This is awesome. Looking forward to playing my next run with this RT combat. Hope you get it compatible with cutscenes and dialogue. :)
An idea for that dialogue problem is, the combat can start off as turn based for the very first attack rather it's the AI or player. then transition to real time after.
Looks incredible and would warrant a new playthrough by itself. Im so excited for this modding community
Thanks! The BG3 modding community really is amazing :)
I have been waiting for a mod like this ever since this game released. Everyone told me it would never happen. Thank you so much for making this.
You're welcome! I hope I can make it work properly and prove the naysayers wrong haha
I love RTWP, so just add a pause button and this looks good for a full new playthrough.
Working on pause right now! Slowly getting there ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
I always imagined what this game would play like if it had combat like Dragon Age Origins
DAO is the GOAT
I don't usually seek out games like DAO but maybe I should, that was my favorite DA game.
This looks amazing - except, as a lot people mentioned, enemies seem to attack too fast.
You can see the enemy attack once at 0:17 and again at 0:20, when it should have taken 6 seconds between attacks (a full turn).
I believe this is how it worked in NWN and BG - With multi-attacks still doing the same (if enemy attacks twice, it does every 3 seconds, if it attacks thrice, every 2 seconds). I really hope there is a way to implement this, with enemies & allies respecting their turn timer and not just being able to spam attacks whenever they can.
Even if you cant, I still believe a pause function would fix 90% of the potential balancing issues this could have.
And player should also wait 6s before doing another attack to not break balance... Maybe there's a reason for using turns lol
Adjustable speed setting somewhere in options would be great. I.e. Full cooldown timings, half timings, quarter, etc and then whatever timing is on this video.
The other thing to consider is at level 11 a fighter might do 4 attacks in one turn. How would that work here when a swing of a 2h might take 2s each?
Yes, the enemies do indeed attack too fast! I'm just trying to get the core stuff working right now so I'm not focused at all on balance type things, but yes it is horribly imbalanced the way it is and one big contributor to that is the enemies attacking too quickly
@@Midget9029 I'm not sure yet the best way to do it, but I think there's many ways it could be done. It might need to be condensed into a single multiattack that all strikes the same target, or it could be like eldritch blast in the video where you hit multiple targets that way. Prob will just need to play with it a bit and go with what feels best
Very interested to see how this is going to work with the AI Allies mod!
Would make clicking on targets a nightmare for spells and bow
A pause button is all you need.
@@noatiendoboludos if your pausing wouldn't that just be turning back to turned based as it is lol
@Shutupayou nope. It's called real time with pause. Just like Baldurs Gate I and II. The main benefit is battles are over much, much faster and punchier, which means a dad like me who only gets to sneak away for 45 minutes at a time can get a decent chunk of action AND story completed before being interrupted by the small annoying ones.
@@Shutupayou Nope, because even with pause actions are playing out simultaneously for all characters not in strict turn order. Pause just lets you get better control so it doesn't become about how quickly you can switch from character to character. As the other reply says, BG1 & 2 are RTwP games that work exactly in this fashion (also a bunch of other games in this genre).
@@noatiendoboludosi think instead of going back to bg 1 2 game mechanics you can simply add some aim assist so its easier to target enemies
While i prefer turn based, i know many love the old realtime with pause. Nice job! Best of luck with it!
Thanks! Yeah I enjoy both turn based and real time, they're both fun in different ways, depends what you're in the mood for.
Oh my god this is actually really cool!!! One suggestion: if it would be possible to add support for quick bind eg: F1 F2 F3 F4 or 1 2 3 4 for spells that I believe would make even more to pull this thing off, more diablo like style for this wonderful game
I believe you're able to do that in game already
Thanks! I think you can do that already though if you go into the game options under "Keybinds"
Welcome back Baldur's Gate 1
Extraordinary! Looks like so much fun to run around like that and not wait for turns. The fast pace combat will definitely keep you on your toes. 💯🔥🔥
Thanks, it's true, it definitely keeps you on your toes :)
Thats amazing work. i was waiting for such mod and you have made my dream come true. Hope you achieve great progress ahead.
This looks awesome. If you pair it with the companion AI mods, then this could be a really fun way to play the game. Is there anyway to have a setting that can lower the enemies attack speed? Since the player has to manually input attacks, it puts them at a disadvantage, especially since the enemies seem to attack really fast.
Ah, I'm still sorting all that stuff out -- this is a super super basic implementation that I just threw together this afternoon -- but def agree the attack speed is a bit much right now. Lots of details to iron out to make this an actually functioning combat mode...
@@tinybike I guess the goal is to make it something like Dragon Age Origins?
@@TheAwkwardGuy I haven't played that one, the model I have in mind is something like the original NWN -- real time, pausable in single player mode, something like that?
@@tinybike Real time with pause would be amazing! It's a mod that would probably single-handedly increase the game's popularity, especially with that whole crowd of people who just hate turn-based games.
@@tinybike I assume it's the same. In DAO you can walk around and attack freely with a third person behind-the-character camera...But you can also pause to order commands to your party and yourself. I guess someone could play the entire game without pausing at all though if they're quick.
I like your work! I think this will be very useful in the later stages when there are a lot of units in the battle. Keep going. 👍
I remember how whenever someone would talk about this possibility, many would say it would be impossible. Just to show what the modding community can achieve 💕💕💕
It is impossible, prolly author wouldn't be able to achieve anything past this and balance would be broken, like he was only able to showcase it by being god-like OP to these NPCs, its unplayable and will not be playable.
@@sanderkiki sure, we'll see in time
I don't think anyone thought it was "impossible". Just that the level design, enemies, companions, health, attack power, buffs/debuffs, etc are all tied to turn based. Not to mention it's a D&D game. It is possible, but it would ruin the game.
Tell that to BG 1 and 2 lol@@mikeskulsky
@@farrel_ra yeah, they were designed to be played that way from the beginning. All those things I listed were designed to be played real time (with pause) for 1 and 2. Not converting from an existing turn based game
I loved this feature if Pathfinder WOTR and when I played BG3 I was sitting there like..why no real time for us knife and bow people at least. I can't wait to try this for sure, great job!
Subscribed. Holy! I'm only 23 and found myself playing BG1 AND BG2, games almost as old as I am, a few years ago and fell in love. I love BG3 and always knew I was going to go back at some point, and I know when now. Once this mod gets all fleshed out, I'm going to sink so much more time into that game. The turn-based combat works great, but sometimes just takes SO long, and this can speed things up drastically. I'm so excited
Yeah speeding things up was a big part of my motivation for this! Originally I actually just wanted to improve Swarm AI, but it turns out Swarm AI is completely unmapped and undocumented and basically no one knows where it is or how it works, so
This looks really cool, though combat seems like a nightmare for anyone getting attacked by groups
Yes, it can be tricky for sure to deal with groups, although pause is now working(-ish) which I think helps a bit ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
This is going to be Wild... i needed
As long as it's good quality and won't break the game, I will definitely play this mod for sure.
This mod looks awesome, I can’t wait to see interactions that wouldn’t have been possible turn based
I really, really wanted Bg3 to have real time combat, like the OG BGs, DA, PoE, etc. This is awesome!
not sure why games don't come with both options these days.
Very cool! Will there be a pause feature so it'll basically work like the OG BG games/Owlcat's Pathfinder games?
@@GreenCity182 ideally yes, if I can figure out a good way to do pausing -- this is still very very early stage!
Update, pause basically works although it's a bit harsh on the player imo and I'll probably end up adjusting it some ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
I think with time this could be a really great way to play the game, especially for a third-person POV. The game actually looks really good played from over the shoulder camera angle, but obviously that's not a great angle for turn-based gameplay. Modding is simply awesome, new ways to play already great games is what makes PC gaming (despite all its annoyances) truly unique.
This will make another play-through bearable.
If you thinking about adding a pause button it could be like the KOTOR games, great work my dude, kove this community!
Yes, my model for combat is basically NWN (or other RTwP systems, e.g. BG1, BG2, FF7Remake, etc). Pause is basically working although it def needs some tuning ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
Imagine if somebody eventually remade Dragon Age Origins on the bg3 engine in conjunction with this mod.
I think the turn-based system works fantastically, but I did wonder what the game would look like with RT or RTWP combat. Looks cool!
Thanks! Yeah I agree I love the regular BG3 combat system, but RT/RTwP just scratches a different itch and can be fun in a different way :)
Following to keep up with this mods progress 🙏 very cool
Hell yeah, same
Thank you sir!
Tip: increase spell and ability duration so that control effects keep impactful, also, aiming AOE should be made simpler cuz it usually takes a lot of time, like having the option to snap your cursor to targets when aiming.
It is amazing. IIRC, in Neverrwinter Night 2 fight was quite dynamic, but also not so fast as here 😆, there was also turn-based combat, but turns for everyone happen on the same time, so during turn everyone has action
This is very impressive but man I am to smooth brained to be using this games mechanics in real time
Haha well idk if it helps but pause is basically working altho it needs some tuning still ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
I can finally play baldurs gate 3 with this!!
I'm a turn based guy myself but I wouldn't mind trying real-time with a pause and slow down feature as I'm selecting my actions
Oh... And this is amazing.
that would be neat, sorta how FFVII Remake just slows down the action when paused and selecting actions, but ya can still see the action slowly happening
@@pawsomelabrastead9244 exactly
Yeah pause is really nice for systems like this I agree. Pause is basically working although it needs some tuning, it's a bit brutal on the player right now b/c of how the environmental turn works haha ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
@@pawsomelabrastead9244 Totally agree, FF7 Remake's combat system was AMAZING and I absolutely loved the battles in that game
Yessss my guy!!! Your a hero if this works.
Im hardcore rtwp player lover and turn based is so slow it like playing chess.
I don't know If you are doing this, but i suggest making hotkeys for some skills
I use the built-in ones 1-9 on the "custom" bar at the bottom -- it's nice in turn-based mode but essential in real time!
Looks good I hope I can download it in the PlayStation when patch 7 comes
Thanks for you work
Thanks! Idk how mods work for BG3 on consoles but this is 100% done in script extender, if that helps? So if you can run script extender, you should be able to run this
IGN showcased this video. Looks really great ! I hope it gets done! There can be combos maybe you can chain ? Great, great stuff
Thanks! I hope I can get it done, I haven't encountered any absolute showstoppers yet so fingers crossed
RTC with Pause or slow to cast a spell just like FF7R
I really really hope this gets uploaded to nexus with vortex support when the mod is ready.
Will definitely upload to nexus when it's ready! I use bg3mm personally but I assume it will work with vortex, it just requires script extender
RTwP would be a dream come true!
You're out Dragon Ageing Dragon Age Veilguard.
Dude this looks crazy, it looks so intense.
It is a bit intense haha
I wish you could collaborate with the developers and release this officially in the game.
+ As some people said in the comments, maybe if you could add pause it would be better.
Pause is basically working now although it still needs some tuning ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
This might actually be what causes me to pull the trigger and get the game. Not a fan of turn based games, would rather just play a board game then. Love RTS, and this looks like it can scratch that itch! Good job!
Thanks! Well, you might want to wait and see if this ends up properly working or if I encounter some bad showstopper problems, but so far so good haha
I'm not sure if people are thinking about controlling four characters in large battles while the AI is moving at 800 APM 😆
Still looks really sick and props to the modder.
Wait. This doesn't look bad at all! This is cool asf
i think theres should be cooldown between each action just like PoE and Pathfinder real time mode
Wow, this looks amazing!
Would work great, provided there's an auto attack and companion AI. Maybe a pause button for those extra tactical moments.
Agree re: autoattack (or autoaim, autotrack, tab target, anything similar) for sure. And yeah you'd have to sort out AI for companions if running solo, or alternatively just pause combat a lot. (Or play with friends!) Pause is basically working altho still needs some tuning ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
You're awesome. Thanks.
I must say that BG2 still hits my nostalgia fiber.
Do you think you could implement some pausing?
I really wish Larian would have implemented both combat modes. Basically in the base game when you use improved invisibility with stealth advantage and the cleric tricky ability you already are in real time combat
@@RPGLegacy997 I'd like to! My mental model is basically NWN combat. Not sure how to do pausing in bg3 tho, still very early stage on this / trying to figure out the angles
@@tinybike maybe by making use of the turn based mode when outside combat and tricking the game to think we're not in combat. I am not sure.
But if you manage to do that it will be one of the most popular mod.
@@RPGLegacy997 pause is basically working although it definitely needs some tuning, "environmental turn" is pretty savage when the enemies are all in real time haha ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
Waiting for this, dude you are foing a great job.
Hope it can be for ps5 too
Thanks! I don't know anything about how ps5 mods will work but I hope so too :)
Very interesting! Is there any channel I can follow your updates?
Just this youtube channel for videos, and all code updates are pushed to github (github.com/tinybike/Brawl ) as soon as they're ready!
99% would get stomped during the myrkul apostle fight with this mod lol
Once you add a pause feature, ill go ahead and give it a try!
Well I'm not sure it's really ready for you to try yet haha but there is a pause feature, albeit still needs some tuning ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
This looks unhinged. I'm in.
Sub just want to see whats gonna become of this i bet its gonna be amazing in the final draft
Haven't encountered any real showstoppers yet, fingers crossed I can get it all working ok!
This would make me finally buy the game🙌🙌
This looks incredibly promising. How you're gonna deal with all the target selecting? An increase in the hotbar with aiming improvement? Full automatic aiming? Gonna remove friendly fire?
Tbh I'm not sure yet. I do think some kind of persistent targeting/autotracking might be needed. Or maybe just tab target selection the way e.g. WoW does it?
@@tinybike maybe like dragon age inquisition did? There's a pause for certain abilities, which would be quite useful for spells using higher slots to cast and to cast anything you have to aim. Everything else that is point blank, the effect could be just automatic. The biggest trouble would probably be the huge amount of mods with spells that work way too weirdly. Removing friendly fire and going something akin to esometric action games could be a faster solution, if you were to ignore spells and cantrips that mostly serve as utility. Just have the cursor to aim and shoot a barrage of cantrips at anything that crosses it. Easier said than done, but just some random ideas I have no idea how you could implement. Tab targeting would probably be more complicated then having a proper hotbar implemented, since you could run into trouble getting the target you wish to. Maybe games like Titan Quest or even Grim Dawn could serve as some inspiration for you. Anyway, I'm eager to see what this mod will become. Good luck on your work, mate! You certainly picked the curiosity and interest of a huge amount of people
Having combat like DA would be amazing
ah i really hope the pause isn't to hard to add. rtwp is the true way to play crpgs :P
Pause basically works, still needs some tuning tho ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
If the full version is made, I think it will be one of the biggest mods ever!
I couldn't experience this game because I hate turn-based battles!!
I hope you can do this 👌
I can't believe it. A couple of days ago I was thinking how I couldn't enjoy BG3 that much because of the turn based system. Spend like an hour or so scouring the internet looking for a real time mod. Is there a way to donate money towards this ?
Have you tried the turn based system?
It didn't work for me at first but I fell in love with it
@@user-cm4op2kz3y God knows I've tried it. Multiple times. Too slow for me.
Thanks for asking but there's no need for donations, this is just a fun/passion project for me :)
nice! btw i wonder if we can dodge enemies' attack by moving fast?
e.g. an enemy used ranged attack while i am running away. would the ranged attack still hit me?
Not 100% sure if this is true for all attacks but I think the way it works is, the distance calculation happens when the attack starts, so if you were in range when the attack started then it can still connect. So by moving around quickly and breaking LoS etc you can keep them from locking on and starting the attacks for sure. But I think once they start it, you might get hit!
@@tinybike oh! i just tested it and it worked as what you said :D thank you for explanation!
God I hope this can come to console too because this would make battles take so much less time and more adrenaline packed 😭
The whole reason why I couldn't stand to play the game was because it was turn based...
If I get this mod and install it, it might be worth playing. 👍
the only thing id say is make it so you can track a little easier, if possible add some kind of aim assist
For sure, I've been mulling this over, have a bunch of different things I want to try here -- tracking is a little too difficult right now and probably people would find it annoying
I can't even tell what is happening. The truth is if the character was not overleveled, he would be overwhelmed by not being able to counter moves he can't tell apart from each other.
It's almost like this is intended to be a proof-of-concept instead of a final release... If only the uploader had mentioned something about that in the video's description!
@@antiquitybandit2275 Yeah, but this is probably something he whipped up in a day's work. Not enough to prove the concept(which requires pausing to be proved).
@@TheBrazilRules So, pausing basically works, although it does sitll need to be tuned imo (it's a bit hard on the player at the moment) ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html (btw definitely true that it's not balanced rn, I'm just trying to sort out the fundamentals, balance is something that would be addressed later if the fundamentals are solid)
This is very impressive
is this like baldurs gate 1/2 where you can make a quick pause between each action IF you wanted to? it'd make a faster paced version of the game without the option of sacrificing too much. or you can choose not to pause, and go full real time.
This is amazing! No offense to turn based, but it really isn't my thing. A RTWP mod such as this could fix my biggest gripe with the game!
Just like BG1 and BG2
off topic but what is this class in the game? I will debut in this game and I find
Ah this is the build I've been running in Trials of Tav, it's 18 Monk / 2 Warlock, charisma-stacking build focused on Eldritch Blast but still has the open-hand monk stuff as a backup. Has a very anime-ish feel to it, DBZ or something -- you can punch stuff, you use ki for stuff, but you do most of your dirty work with monster energy blasts :)
I wish this game was a hack n slash rpg. I have nothing with turn based rpg (and dnd).
It's a cool concept but i don't think there are enough encounters in the game to justify this being a fun way to play, not to mention thinking about certain fights sound like a nightmare, since the developers have made it so that you are always far outnumbered. Yurgir, defending the portal for Halsin, Gortash, Shadowhearts fight with the matriarch, and the encounter with Raphael stand out to me. I can't imagine these battles being fun, just dying pretty much instantly
looks nice. Great job!
do companions attack automatically ? or do you have to tell them what to do individually
Right now it's individual but I think it'd be cool to have them attack automatically. Still sorting out what's possible in terms of automating them. I know there are companion AI mods so that might be the way to go. If controlling manually (and not playing with friends) you prob will want to pause combat a lot to issue commands! Pause is basically working now altho still needs tuning ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
If you pull this shit off I swear 😂
Awesome work man keep it up
And How work to control of the abilitys casts? The resources ?
Baldur's Gate 3 : Dark Alliance 2
Esse mod ta funcionado nessa nova versao do joga da atualizacao do pact 7
e qual e o nome do mod
This is a better… deal, then what it is
Pause button please, great mod.
Pause button ruclips.net/video/ikxgAcxSv50/видео.html
Looks hard to control
It is a bit haha, still a work in progress...
DUDE YOU ARE A LEGEND
does this eliminate the strategic freedom the game presents? let me know please someone.
this is fucking awesome
watch this space
So much more fun
Now i wanna a soul like mechanics in this game how will i die i wond 💀
When can I get Elden ring with turn based combat?
PLEASE WHERE IS THE DOWNLOAD PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
I really want to play bg3 but crpg just isn't my thing, with this mod tho, imma play the shit out of this game :D
Is there a download for this to try the mod?
You can grab the code from github (github.com/tinybike/Brawl ) if you want, but I haven't packaged it up and put it on nexus or anything yet -- it's still super raw and I wouldn't want to do a release in its current state
Just by this footage is obvious how impossible it would be to rework BG3 into RTWP, well unless you are playing with god mode cheats.
It def will need some rebalancing. I'm not worried about balance rn b/c just trying to sort out if the core of this thing works fundamentally. Balance def not a showstopper tho. You can always just pause!
When will it be available??
Code's on github rn, feel free to grab it if you really wanna try it but it's pretty rough still! It'll be on nexus when it's ready, assuming I don't encounter any bad showstopper issues that keep it from working...
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