From my experience in the closed beta, it was usually worth it to upgrade IFVs to have stronger armor and weapons; the ability to shoot back at tanks is actually kind of a big f**king deal.
13:30 This TUSK 2 ERA armor is M32 ARAT 2 and it was specifically designed to protect from shaped charges tandem warheads because older M19 ARAT couldn't do that so in real world it can give significant protection from russian tandem shaped charge weapons.
Big thanks to the latest patrons! These days have been crazy so the shoutouts are in shambles. I hope I deliver on my promises to earn that support. THAT SAID! Which unit do you want to test first? I want to give the bradley horde a shot! IF I can copy and paste the battlegroup code here, I will. At THIS moment it is not possible. When possible, you will be able to simply import this battlegroup and play with it instantly.
I know this seems late but here I go. The most Notable Units Cavalry Scouts: The only current unit that uses the Javelin and let me tell you they are pretty powerful as their real-life counterpart but sadly their range got nerfed massively but despite this they are still deadly just careful with them due to to their 3 man nature but thanks to that you can fit two of them inside one Bradley keep this mind if you want to save points, always max these guys out. Scout Snipers: Stupidly stealthy to the point of being annoying that all I have to say. Marine Raider: Easily one of the best infantry in the game, high survivable to their size, pretty good loadout in both versions although Door kickers are better 9/10 times. TOW Team: Always pick the Top attack version, because they do a stupidly amount of damage if they successfully hit their target even against T-14s also where is the TOW-2B for the Bradleys? CAAT Dragon: These guys used to be a meme until they buffed to give them a grenade launcher and 50 cal but they nerf them later on by removing their GL, rip but understandable although the Dragon range is kind piss compare to their Russian counterpart but at least they have 2 which allows them to overwhelm APS. Mech Rifleman AA: Until the US get another Stringer team that has two, these guy are you only option for infantry AA although they can fight pretty well on their own and can run, only having one Stringer hurts. LAV-AT: Don't underestimate these guys, sure their armour is awful but their speed and the amount of missiles especially their top attack versions make them deadly...they are like a glass cannon. M1A1 FEP: It used to be terrible compared to their SEP counterparts due to the lack of APS but then they buffed the penetration which makes it a surprising good cost-effective tank. M1A2 SEP 2/3: If you want a true MBT get these two. Patriot PAC-2: Your only long range AA but hot dam it is good although be careful of SEED. LAV-AD: Your fast short-range AA that can also shred light armour and infantry, solid for the front lines. M163 PIVADS: I don't know why these guys have radar even though their real-life counterparts shouldn't have it but ok I am not complaining as it does make them solid SEED bait as they can survive getting hit although they suck at trying to shoot down jets. M6A4 M-SHORAD: Pick the Hellfire, it is easily the best at taking down not only helicopters but also tanks due to their nature of being top attack and yes they can one-shot helicopters besides maybe the Ka-52. I am not going to talk about artillery...it is mainly up to you guys. Osprey: Your fastest transport option, make use of the speed to do supply runs or help rapidly deploy squads to the frontlines. I am not going to bother with the Jets and the rest helicopters as they are mainly up to you.
I would agree with this. I would also add SRAWs due to cheap top attack. Due to price, you could stack 2 or 3 and sneak up on armor and just 1 tap it. Also 120mm mortar carriers are criminally underrated as they're super accurate, do decent damage but most importantly come with smoke. Smoke was extremely underused in the beta.
This video really helps getting startet, do you have by chance a RU version that got some experience behind it looking forward to the vids over the coming days :D
If you click the pin on the top right, you can easily compare two types of the same unit or two completely different units. I also highly recommend using ospreys instead of all those ground transports.
@@Church_of_LDE if you had succes with it, definitely give it a try. This deck is also meant for someone that didnt play it as much as yourself. Mainly to give people a good foundation. Putting an offsprey filled with units into the hands of a new player will probably not end well if he is against a good player. Vehicles are the safer choice and you always have the big heli or hueys as transports if you want quick insertions
Wish that they eventyally add other nations. Germany, Britain and France could be fun nations to play around with. Modern day China would also be extremely fun given the wide range of vehicles they currently field.
There is still so much stuff missing from Demo Armoury, I know they didn't include all Battle groups, obviously no Apache, Little Bird, Stryker, B1B Lancer, AC 130 etc same for RU. I hope they will add B 52 Stratofortress since TU - 95 is in Russian deck again in Demo.
Can't wait for the Russian Battlegroups. Considering how advance the technology is I feel like this game will be somewhat different from Wargame for example, but no less good.
Personally I dont like the cav scouts in the Bradley and dont care for the BFIST either. Trade the BFIST for the recon SepV2 for the same thing but its much more deadly and its stealth/noise reduction do to it being recon means you can fire and kill things without being spotted. Also if the ATGM is fired at the tank the APS on the Bradley will not intercept the ATGM even if the Bradley is in the way of the missile. The extra HEAT protection on the side is pretty useful for protection from bombs and arty since they all do HEAT damage. Its not necessary but could be the difference between a bomb killing your tank with a miss or not. The cluster paladin also has laser guided rounds which are the copperheads. They are good but if you have the target lased then the Excalibur rounds will kill armor basically with the same effectiveness.
Again this was kind of the optimized battlegroup based on playing against experienced people with input from multiple people. Ofcourse adjust it to your liking
I think thats it is a Tank Divison. For me it is to much Bradly and to less lav´s. I like more mobility Reacon Tab: Force Reacon Black Ops in a Humvee at close Range to charging maybe difficult. Inf Tab: i think less the Number of Troops and make it more different. Tank Tab: it is ok. Maybe M90 out and LAV in. Sup Tab: I think lav or Bradly or maybe the 2 but less Vehicle. I want lav-l and lav-m and Himars. Hel Tab: I think good. Air Tab: Hornet good so. The Prowler out and KC in for Drop Lav troops. The F35 it is good too but maybe with other Weapon. Can you split the F35 in 2*1 with different weapons?
I have detailed all these points and explained why i went for it. Its not the swiss knife of decks by no means but its a deck that works with the current build against the current opponent units. LAVs get smacked easily, infantry tab is already quite low but these units have to just be used effectively. Airdropping is very risky if against good players so its situational and no you cant have the same unit twice with different loadouts
Three things from what i see so far. 1. Where is my beloved Apache? Would lovd to be able to do a strict US Army deck if it is feasible. 2 and 3. Playing wargame red dragon and also the ash and shadows mod. I really hope this game does other counties and more advanced naval combat, full on sea battles. And with this advanced gearing section. Really would hope and love to see a Israel faction. Especially with how advanced and modifiiable the vehicles currently are for them.
Got to wait for the 3 other US specs. Apache will be in the aborne spec most likely. So to make a US army themed deck you would mix those two. They have strikers and larger inf squads as well in that one irc.
@@ch-53esuperstallion76 i was being sarcastic because he mentioned it for every single bradley, sorry but you would of been helpful if i wasnt an asshole
I already commented on this, demo has more stuff so probably they disabled for Beta some vehicles. TU 95 is in game with Nuke, but I didn't see B 52 on US side only B1 Lancer.
@@Zacho5 i know USMC doesn't use them, it's just that in demo arsenal there was a lot more of stuff obviously but still not everything yet! Turns out there is C-17 Galaxy, B2 mentioned, B-52 apparently since there is model on artstation.
played the beta today, it is pretty shit as it is. performance is terrible, im getting around 20 fps on low, the UI is quite bad, and the controls are not as intuitive as Warno. Also there is no line of sight, how am I supposed to know if my units are in the correct position. It's gonna be at least another 6 months, and I doubt it will be able to compete with the update schedule and polish of Warno. Dissapointed.
It's the specializations available that are causing that issue. This is why the US does not have an F-22, this is the limitation of the USMC which does NOT have any Super Hornets. IRL the USMC only has F/A-18C and F/A-18D Hornets along with F-35B JSF's If the US had the Airborne Specialization available that would come with AH-64E Apache Guardian's, F-22 Raptors, AC-130 Gunships, F-35 A&C JSF's, A-10C Warthogs, ect.. also along with 101st Airborne, 82nd Rangers, and other units like that.
The VDV’s claim to fame can be hard countered at round start by a single PATRIOT unit, then mopped up with your own heli because you can see exactly where they’re dropping.
What kind of russian bias we talking? US has extremely high performance aviation, insane artillery that fucks buildings in one shot and reloads fast af, great tanks on all price points, good infantry that can actually take some beating and lots of top attack f&f weapon systems that just fuck russian armor as they do irl. US is realistic. (with few exceptions like SHORAD and older shit) Russia on the other hand, to be competitive, has to either go super expensive and few in numbers with it's rare unicorn vehicles available to "guards" spec or it just doesn't pull up the weight without it. If you get fucked by super long range AA russia has irl, just use SEAD, if you get fucked by interceptors russia has irl... well, in game they don't hit shit and if you just use stealthy planes, they can't even see you... if you get fucked by russian cruise/ballistic missiles, well... cope and seethe, that's realistic. At least you go up against KH and not get spammed by hypersonic shit, that wouldn't be fun.
Youre using it wrong. Dont play it like you would play in warno or wargame. You get minimal infantry and more vehicles. Vehicle warfarenis the meta atm
I don’t like USMC at all vs Russia…. I want CAG! And long bows And F22’s! If they had to do amphibious landing’s that would make cents… but no! It’s just wrong be cool if there was regular green berets, that could raise indigenous forces…. And SEALS…. Why raders….? After all they’re both the navy….VS Russia this doesn’t make any sense at all…. Rangers and CAG or aka Chuck Norris squad, should be OP! CAG should have stingers and javelins, with M107’s and 240’s with SR25 and M4 with 203 in a 10-15 man unit cost the most and just be op!
I can actually see troop carriers very strong in the future. Just the versatility of weapon modification can give you countless strats.
They are very powerful in this game. also, you can deploy them without infantry
so no infantry tax
From my experience in the closed beta, it was usually worth it to upgrade IFVs to have stronger armor and weapons; the ability to shoot back at tanks is actually kind of a big f**king deal.
@@madeconomist458 IDK if its true or not, is there an IFV modification with AA missile?
@@chocolat-kun8689 LAVAD?
For real, with how big the maps are its better for the most part to have them stay and fight with there troops.
09:10 lmao using the Bradleys and their APS as screen destroyers for your tanks is a clever idea.
13:30 This TUSK 2 ERA armor is M32 ARAT 2 and it was specifically designed to protect from shaped charges tandem warheads because older M19 ARAT couldn't do that so in real world it can give significant protection from russian tandem shaped charge weapons.
Yeah. In this game its situational and based on how you use your tanks to determine if its worth it.
Big thanks to the latest patrons! These days have been crazy so the shoutouts are in shambles. I hope I deliver on my promises to earn that support. THAT SAID!
Which unit do you want to test first? I want to give the bradley horde a shot!
IF I can copy and paste the battlegroup code here, I will. At THIS moment it is not possible. When possible, you will be able to simply import this battlegroup and play with it instantly.
Dude I have been so hyped for this. I know I won't be great in MP but this is the RTS I've been waiting for.
Thanks for making it :)
Quick clarification the active protection only activates at incoming rockets and missiles not every projectiles if some of you don't know
I know this seems late but here I go.
The most Notable Units
Cavalry Scouts: The only current unit that uses the Javelin and let me tell you they are pretty powerful as their real-life counterpart but sadly their range got nerfed massively but despite this they are still deadly just careful with them due to to their 3 man nature but thanks to that you can fit two of them inside one Bradley keep this mind if you want to save points, always max these guys out.
Scout Snipers: Stupidly stealthy to the point of being annoying that all I have to say.
Marine Raider: Easily one of the best infantry in the game, high survivable to their size, pretty good loadout in both versions although Door kickers are better 9/10 times.
TOW Team: Always pick the Top attack version, because they do a stupidly amount of damage if they successfully hit their target even against T-14s also where is the TOW-2B for the Bradleys?
CAAT Dragon: These guys used to be a meme until they buffed to give them a grenade launcher and 50 cal but they nerf them later on by removing their GL, rip but understandable although the Dragon range is kind piss compare to their Russian counterpart but at least they have 2 which allows them to overwhelm APS.
Mech Rifleman AA: Until the US get another Stringer team that has two, these guy are you only option for infantry AA although they can fight pretty well on their own and can run, only having one Stringer hurts.
LAV-AT: Don't underestimate these guys, sure their armour is awful but their speed and the amount of missiles especially their top attack versions make them deadly...they are like a glass cannon.
M1A1 FEP: It used to be terrible compared to their SEP counterparts due to the lack of APS but then they buffed the penetration which makes it a surprising good cost-effective tank.
M1A2 SEP 2/3: If you want a true MBT get these two.
Patriot PAC-2: Your only long range AA but hot dam it is good although be careful of SEED.
LAV-AD: Your fast short-range AA that can also shred light armour and infantry, solid for the front lines.
M163 PIVADS: I don't know why these guys have radar even though their real-life counterparts shouldn't have it but ok I am not complaining as it does make them solid SEED bait as they can survive getting hit although they suck at trying to shoot down jets.
M6A4 M-SHORAD: Pick the Hellfire, it is easily the best at taking down not only helicopters but also tanks due to their nature of being top attack and yes they can one-shot helicopters besides maybe the Ka-52.
I am not going to talk about artillery...it is mainly up to you guys.
Osprey: Your fastest transport option, make use of the speed to do supply runs or help rapidly deploy squads to the frontlines.
I am not going to bother with the Jets and the rest helicopters as they are mainly up to you.
I would agree with this. I would also add SRAWs due to cheap top attack. Due to price, you could stack 2 or 3 and sneak up on armor and just 1 tap it. Also 120mm mortar carriers are criminally underrated as they're super accurate, do decent damage but most importantly come with smoke. Smoke was extremely underused in the beta.
I can't emphasize enough how helpful this video has been, thanks a lot!
Glad it was helpful!
This video really helps getting startet, do you have by chance a RU version that got some experience behind it looking forward to the vids over the coming days :D
If you click the pin on the top right, you can easily compare two types of the same unit or two completely different units.
I also highly recommend using ospreys instead of all those ground transports.
If youre against good players, offspreys are fresh meat
@saucynetwork9525 i was #7 in the CBT
I used ospreys for 98% of my insertions.
@@Church_of_LDE if you had succes with it, definitely give it a try. This deck is also meant for someone that didnt play it as much as yourself. Mainly to give people a good foundation. Putting an offsprey filled with units into the hands of a new player will probably not end well if he is against a good player. Vehicles are the safer choice and you always have the big heli or hueys as transports if you want quick insertions
@saucynetwork9525 to each their own; but saying ospreys are fresh meat just doesn't make sense.
Choose your landing zone, que RTB. Its pretty easy.
I like these informative videos mixed in with gameplay videos. Keep it up sauce man.
I cant wait to try this game out. Seems like it is a loooot of fun. Finally got time to try the beta out too cuz Im sick at home lmao
Wish that they eventyally add other nations. Germany, Britain and France could be fun nations to play around with. Modern day China would also be extremely fun given the wide range of vehicles they currently field.
I believe that they indicated somewhere that the first dlc they will release post official release would be china iirc
There is still so much stuff missing from Demo Armoury, I know they didn't include all Battle groups, obviously no Apache, Little Bird, Stryker, B1B Lancer, AC 130 etc same for RU. I hope they will add B 52 Stratofortress since TU - 95 is in Russian deck again in Demo.
The Tu-95 was not in the demo, that was the 160
@@erikbruil4907 it was in demo Arsenal ruclips.net/video/x4bM7P3A5Lg/видео.htmlsi=OGun1PgrwuaOKsXB&t=2556
They will obviously add them, they will be the main nuke carriers and right now there are no nukes in the game.
@@cerebelulthey aren't doing naval
@@GapeGang Bombers and nukes aren't naval.
!9:30 Can't help but notice the cluster loadout _also_ has access to laser-guided rounds in those "155mm Copperhead" rounds.
Ohhhhyeah you can laser designate targets
@@SaucyNetworkEntertainment Twice I checked that comment and somehow I didn't notice I'd messed up the timestamp. 19:30 for anyone who missed it.
IFAV is actually a Mercedes G-class
Does “laser designation” require played action? Or is it just assumed everything visible to the unit is laser designated by default? How does it work?
Looking at the preview footage it needs a separate action
You press N to open the laser des
Click on a target
Keep LOS for lase
Shoot a round that can utilize laser dez and the lase will guide the round in
It will be obvious when a lase is activly working.
You need to manually designate units with a capable unit
Can't wait for the Russian Battlegroups. Considering how advance the technology is I feel like this game will be somewhat different from Wargame for example, but no less good.
Laser guide Excalibur?...wtf thats a GPS guided round. The copperhead is laser guided and no longer used
Would you make same guide for Russian battlegroup?
yess
So you cant create a battlegroup with only one specialization?
I just want to ask how long do I have to wait?
Did you get in yet?
dunno why, my marine raiders wont come in the aavp
Personally I dont like the cav scouts in the Bradley and dont care for the BFIST either. Trade the BFIST for the recon SepV2 for the same thing but its much more deadly and its stealth/noise reduction do to it being recon means you can fire and kill things without being spotted. Also if the ATGM is fired at the tank the APS on the Bradley will not intercept the ATGM even if the Bradley is in the way of the missile.
The extra HEAT protection on the side is pretty useful for protection from bombs and arty since they all do HEAT damage. Its not necessary but could be the difference between a bomb killing your tank with a miss or not.
The cluster paladin also has laser guided rounds which are the copperheads. They are good but if you have the target lased then the Excalibur rounds will kill armor basically with the same effectiveness.
Again this was kind of the optimized battlegroup based on playing against experienced people with input from multiple people. Ofcourse adjust it to your liking
Where have the US drones gone?
armor also increases hp
No it doesnt. It reduces incoming damage.
Shame they beta is multiplayer only, nice
At the 35th of jan?
can u make also a Russian deck?
Can you also make a video for Russian deck?
I think thats it is a Tank Divison.
For me it is to much Bradly and to less lav´s. I like more mobility
Reacon Tab: Force Reacon Black Ops in a Humvee at close Range to charging maybe difficult.
Inf Tab: i think less the Number of Troops and make it more different.
Tank Tab: it is ok. Maybe M90 out and LAV in.
Sup Tab: I think lav or Bradly or maybe the 2 but less Vehicle. I want lav-l and lav-m and Himars.
Hel Tab: I think good.
Air Tab: Hornet good so. The Prowler out and KC in for Drop Lav troops. The F35 it is good too but maybe with other Weapon. Can you split the F35 in 2*1 with different weapons?
I have detailed all these points and explained why i went for it. Its not the swiss knife of decks by no means but its a deck that works with the current build against the current opponent units. LAVs get smacked easily, infantry tab is already quite low but these units have to just be used effectively. Airdropping is very risky if against good players so its situational and no you cant have the same unit twice with different loadouts
are they goona add more nation in the future?
most likely yes
Three things from what i see so far.
1. Where is my beloved Apache? Would lovd to be able to do a strict US Army deck if it is feasible.
2 and 3. Playing wargame red dragon and also the ash and shadows mod. I really hope this game does other counties and more advanced naval combat, full on sea battles.
And with this advanced gearing section. Really would hope and love to see a Israel faction. Especially with how advanced and modifiiable the vehicles currently are for them.
Got to wait for the 3 other US specs. Apache will be in the aborne spec most likely. So to make a US army themed deck you would mix those two. They have strikers and larger inf squads as well in that one irc.
There won't be sea battles. Other countries are confirmed.
Any idea of price when it comes released?
No, but everyone is guessing around $40 usd
Tried the open beta. Dunno man, imo Warno and Wargames series are much better.... Maybe this will get good overtime
play some more, give it an actual chance.
hey guys does the busk 3 armor upgrade upgrade the front and the sides as well
I think it does but i’m not sure tho
3:33
It shows here
@@ch-53esuperstallion76 i was being sarcastic because he mentioned it for every single bradley, sorry but you would of been helpful if i wasnt an asshole
I just want to play but I haven't gotten an email yet im so sad man
All you gotta do is request access on steam. It's a instant accept no wait period.
@GeNeTiCxGhost yeah when it launched they stopped accepting people because the servers go hit I got in like a day after this post im loving the game!
I would love to see another video like this butfor russia
Will happen
Will they add more units in the future? like, apache, B52, NATO vehicles....
They are already in other specs
yes. but this is only beta
I already commented on this, demo has more stuff so probably they disabled for Beta some vehicles.
TU 95 is in game with Nuke, but I didn't see B 52 on US side only B1 Lancer.
@@CapybaraConnoisseur89 USMC does not use any of those is why. Got to wait for Airborn spec with the airforce or the SOF spec for the B2.
@@Zacho5 i know USMC doesn't use them, it's just that in demo arsenal there was a lot more of stuff obviously but still not everything yet! Turns out there is C-17 Galaxy, B2 mentioned, B-52 apparently since there is model on artstation.
thiis game will kill warno and im so happy about it
Hahaha true !
played the beta today, it is pretty shit as it is.
performance is terrible, im getting around 20 fps on low, the UI is quite bad, and the controls are not as intuitive as Warno. Also there is no line of sight, how am I supposed to know if my units are in the correct position.
It's gonna be at least another 6 months, and I doubt it will be able to compete with the update schedule and polish of Warno.
Dissapointed.
first :D
second
Too bad the game is riddled with Russian bias.
It's the specializations available that are causing that issue. This is why the US does not have an F-22, this is the limitation of the USMC which does NOT have any Super Hornets. IRL the USMC only has F/A-18C and F/A-18D Hornets along with F-35B JSF's
If the US had the Airborne Specialization available that would come with AH-64E Apache Guardian's, F-22 Raptors, AC-130 Gunships, F-35 A&C JSF's, A-10C Warthogs, ect.. also along with 101st Airborne, 82nd Rangers, and other units like that.
@@Spartan536It’s so weird seeing a Bradley SHORAD and not a Stryker SHORAD. Especially given the near-future premise of the game.
The VDV’s claim to fame can be hard countered at round start by a single PATRIOT unit, then mopped up with your own heli because you can see exactly where they’re dropping.
@@buschacha Again specs, the Strykers are in the Airborn spec.
What kind of russian bias we talking?
US has extremely high performance aviation, insane artillery that fucks buildings in one shot and reloads fast af, great tanks on all price points, good infantry that can actually take some beating and lots of top attack f&f weapon systems that just fuck russian armor as they do irl. US is realistic. (with few exceptions like SHORAD and older shit)
Russia on the other hand, to be competitive, has to either go super expensive and few in numbers with it's rare unicorn vehicles available to "guards" spec or it just doesn't pull up the weight without it. If you get fucked by super long range AA russia has irl, just use SEAD, if you get fucked by interceptors russia has irl... well, in game they don't hit shit and if you just use stealthy planes, they can't even see you... if you get fucked by russian cruise/ballistic missiles, well... cope and seethe, that's realistic. At least you go up against KH and not get spammed by hypersonic shit, that wouldn't be fun.
@Saucy
thats the dumbest deck ive ever played impossible to kill units
you may get some vehicles yes but you lack so much in defense unplayable
Youre using it wrong. Dont play it like you would play in warno or wargame. You get minimal infantry and more vehicles. Vehicle warfarenis the meta atm
I don’t like USMC at all vs Russia…. I want CAG! And long bows And F22’s! If they had to do amphibious landing’s that would make cents… but no! It’s just wrong be cool if there was regular green berets, that could raise indigenous forces…. And SEALS…. Why raders….? After all they’re both the navy….VS Russia this doesn’t make any sense at all…. Rangers and CAG or aka Chuck Norris squad, should be OP! CAG should have stingers and javelins, with M107’s and 240’s with SR25 and M4 with 203 in a 10-15 man unit cost the most and just be op!
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