His Wife Vanished On A Moving Train - Everybody On Train Is A Suspect
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Imagine your train destroys a person's body and all they ask is compensation and you say it's unreasonable. That's disgusting
Trust me....karma will get all of them, karma might take her time but she be coming
And the court agrees 🫠
@@raymortamour4086sorry to break it to you bud but there's no such thing as karma. Sometimes bad people just get away with bad things. Trying to convince yourself otherwise is cope.
@@a_kmza sorry to break it to you bud. But nobody cares what you think or what uour opinion is
@@raymortamour4086 you're free to do so pal, but it'll remain true. "Acknowledge God and Buddha but never rely on them". Karma won't dish out justice and even our "justice system" won't honestly judge those most worthy of its punishment. Sad don't you think?
I cried when she said her husband's custom ringtone was helping her hold on. She could feel her husband's support.
Same here. That part got me the most.
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But that’s still not the point tho I just feel bad for her
it angers me how the courtroom people and the train company staff can sleep well at night knowing that they literally robbed a woman of her normal life. the courtroom people COULD'VE made her life at least a little better by awarding her and obligating the train company to pay her the compensation she wants but they didn't.
and i guarantee that amount of money would barely put a dent in their earnings. pure greed and evil
WAIT A MOMENT! Not only she didn't get the 1 million USD as nobody was jailed for that? People should be in jail for that now. Why aren't you guys talking about that? Is hat common in China and the US for people to not get jailed for that? "It's just an unhappy accident". Just that?
Welcome to China buddy. This isn't even the worst they've done
@@JohnnyLynnLee nope. She didn't mention on the video that someone was jailed. Nobody got jailed and the company just recieved a little slap on the wrist considering the amount the court obligated them to pay for compensation. 200k dollars is nothing to this company. I guarantee you they can earn that back in a matter of months
She should have asked for more...she would have gotten it anywhere else. I like to think that wouldn't happen here but who knows
It is INSANE how 2 seconds can change a person's life
How could you even process walking one minute and then being underneath the train limbless. This is blowing my mind.
$1.5M wasn't even that big of an ask for someone who had a permanent life altering and life threatening experience, (you know, lost 3 LIMBS) due to negligence which is undeniably the train company's fault, and they gave her basically nothing! She almost fucking DIED and they gave her $190,000?! I am utterly appalled by the flop of a courtroom that must've been to look at this poor woman with half a leg and one arm in the face, and tell her all she's getting is $190,000 for almost dying from something that should never even have been a risk in the first place. I feel like here (in Australia), or even in the US, that would have been an EASY $10M lawsuit. Probably more.
I wonder if they even looked at her.
Stephanie mentioned a few times that people wouldn't look at her
I was ready to say 1.5 billion "which is justified " but no
“i thought about self exiting, but i couldn’t even physically do it” that really hit, there was really nothing she could do.
literally. that broke my heart!☹️☹️
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The most terrifying thing is not unaliving, it's this kind of injuries... legit my biggest fear
"I thought about *SUICIDE"
@@bellarina *NOT DYING
It’s insane that she only got $190,000! She will have lifelong health needs and care needs. Her entire life has been changed.
Right? What I want to know is who the heck did they pick for that jury duty? Blind civilians and ex railroad workers?
@@syzygy4365No jury trials in China, just judges. “In particular cases, people's assessors and judges will form a collegial panel to hear cases together” (to be more precise, according to a quick google search)
It’s probably a huge sum of money from where they live. Not every place is as expensive as the USA.
Look at pictures of the train. It's pretty old. Do Chinese trains look like that today?
The accident happened in 2005. The husband is Li Pengcheng, but the victim is Hu Jiajin. It's very odd that Stephanie is calling her Jia instead of Hu. Anyway, in case anybody wants to google it, it happened in Sanjiang County, Guangxi. The rail company was the Liuzhou Railway Bureau, later renamed to Nanning Railway Bureau, and then China Railway Nanning Group.
Between then and now (2024), due to rapid economic growth, the average salary in China has increased about 6 - 7x, and average salary today in the US is about 4x higher than in China. Therefore, to make a realistic comparison, we should multiply that US$190,000 by about 24x, which comes out to US$4.5 million.
(1) for the amount of injury she suffered, still quite a low amount. But it isn't $190,000.
(2) Chinese courts (and in fact most courts around the world) tend not to award as much damages as American courts
(3) it was still a government agency at the time. In the US, they'd probably scream _qualified immunity_ and claim you can't sue.
You guys don’t understand ccp china huh ?
This is such a devastating case, but her determination to drag herself out of those train tracks and her phone ringtone helping her it was like her husband was there bought me to tears pls
broooo spoiler please.
Yeah pls spoiler 😢
Please take a moment to realise that this is a case where someone was heavily injured and had their life impacted. This happened to a real person, so stop treating it as a fictional story and stop commenting such shit like 'nO moRe sPoiLeRs gUyS!'
Have some empathy.
Spoiler? Why are you reading the comments before watching the video? That's simply retarded.
@@housemana @WonderfulParody You know this is a *real case,* right? Where a real person was severely hurt? Get over your "spoilers," it's not a fun fictional story, have some empathy,
In the court they couldn’t look at her because they would see how heartless their decision is and they dont wanna face the reality of their cruelty
A comma is a good idea here.
@@Flamsterettewhy
@@himaririku5289 It's necessary.
@Flamsterette I’m sorry, I didn’t realize we were being graded for our spelling and punctuation 🙄
@@Flamsterette huh where
That train company should be financially responsible for her for the rest of her life. They destroyed any sense of normality for herself and I hope she finds a happy new normal in the future but it should be funded by that company.
A FUCKING TRAP DOOR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ISLE OF A PASSENGER TRAIN. Company says "There is NOTING wrong.". I am SO happy for this lady for having the strength to insist to police to preserve the crime scene and to go and file a lawsuit. The only purpose of it's existence is sheer laziness on behalf of the company employees, it is the company's fault.
*AISLE *NOTHING *ITS
Bad spelling!
@@Flamsterettethanks for this super important comment 🙄
right??? i just cant even understand how it opened. this is seriously so insane i cannot believe it.
If it wasn't Gia it would have been someone else. And that someone else would likely not have been as strong as she was.
@@sapphirerose4494 they're being a child about spelling and punctuation on every comment they can, it's ridiculous
Not even $200,000 for losing THREE limbs is just inconceivably cruel. I bet her hospital stay alone was that much. I know not every healthcare system is like the US's but theres no way that was cheap. I hope she and her family continue to heal from this truly traumatic experience.
Let's hope that they paid for her medical care. You know, it was 2005. The railway company ... government owned. The hospital ... government owned.
US health system!
Yep. If you can afford private insurance.
In Europe we have public health care for all.
Chinese hospitals are very cheap.
@@MalenassauraBut most people don’t earn very much there either.
@@katerinagiannioudi401public healthcare is crap-
USA has the BEST healthcare on the planet.
FACT
Just because yer born doesn’t give you the right to free services from a doctor
Is there a GoFundMe for this woman? She needs WAY more money than that. It’s pathetic pocket change. She’ll fly through that money with those disabilities. Such an injustice.
It’s a case from 2005 and I imagine that $190 000 dollars is a lot of money in Yuan especially in 2005
@@ashleylinton7293its not nearly enough to cover her medical bills & the cost of living for the rest of her life with nurses & stuff
@@ashleylinton7293 I mean the physical damage alone will require extreme professional help paired with the emotional damage, that money is nowhere near enough
@@ashleylinton7293 This incident took place in China, not Japan.
@BenjaminsWorldRoblox from what I've googled Jishou is very rural and inexpensive. The cost of compfrotable living is ~ 2000 yuan for a single person (including rent) per month. That's $275 usd per month. So yes, she absolutely got screwed. She was awarded enough money to technically cover her basic needs for ten years, but not not considering her medical expenses or quality of life. That's the American equivalent of losing 3 limbs and being handed 500k. Sure you can buy a house and not work for a few years, but not even close to justified.
i just have to say. stephanies way of explaining the phantom limb is so perfect that shes even better than most of my professors. she has a way of perfectly conveying an idea without being too simple or too complicated anddd while maintaining 100% accuracy. love her!!
New fear unlocked😭
Poor woman, I can only imagine what she went through...
To the people commenting and complaining about others 'spoiling' the video, please take a moment to realise that this happened to someone real and impacted their life heavily. It feels as though you guys don't have any sort of empathy and continue to treat such cases as fictional stories.
Not only is it insensitive, it is also disheartening.
This comment deserves to be pinned and more likes.
People are so desensitized by tv that they don't see a difference between real life and made up stories anymore 😐
This comment needs to be pinned !! Well said
Say it louder for the people in the back 👏👏👏
Okay yeah see I thought I was possibly dramatic for finding it off-putting..it’s almost as if ppl see this as some exciting bedtime story and not a tragic event in someones life idk 😬
People are complaining about spoiling..😢...spoil what? Are they dense
“No one goes missing in a train.”
Someone hasnt read enough Agatha Christie..
i was literally about to say "well, someone hasn't read Murder on the Orient Express"
My first thought reading the title
Same here
I freak whenever people mention her bc she was found in the town i live in, in a hotel literally 5 mins from my house😭 fun bit of lore (btw, its harruh gut not harrow gate since too many true crime ppl get it wrong💀) knowing she walked on the same streets i have is pretty mind boggling. (and maybe even the yorkshire ripper who knows)
my exact thoughts. the moment i read the title i thought it was one of her baking the mystery series
The ringtone part brought me to tears. If her husband hadn't kept calling her, and she hadn't heard their song, I have a feeling she wouldn't have made it
I had the same thoughts. Her husband constantly calling her not knowing the impact he's making, saved his love's life. It's always the little and most unexpected things that go a long way
Jesus
There is another disastrous story with a train crash in Greece at Tempi last year where dozens of young people were killed and the government tried to cover it and put the blame on the train driver. And of course the victims’ families got little to no compensations! It would be interesting to make a video on that too so that their story is heard.
My God the way braodcasters handle the situation and blamed it on one man is utterly ridiculous. Literally my jaw dropped when I watched.
Don't let me get started on the fact that workers called that shit out, and European government gave money to fix the trains, but the Greek Government didn't do anything!
I was appalled she asked for so little, and horrified with what she received. Its atrocious places can make so much money and be so greedy when they ruin a life.
New fear unlocked, what do you mean a trap door on a fucking train??? This fall was likely 1 or 2 sec and she lost everything in those 2 seconds 💔💔
And in the middle of the hallway 😭😭😭😭 like, why isn't that shit on the wall!!!
@@rooksdb1frrrr like why on the fucking floor
@@rooksdb1 the train company also had the gall to say they did a top to bottom, front to back inspection of the train like the fucking trap door has been there ever since, they just didn't bother to get rid of it
Wait don’t spoil it yet I didn’t get there yet 😭 lemme stop reading the comments
@@RayhannahNajet bro this is a real case don't treat like some story with spoilers dawg yall mad disrespectful 😭
that’s so unfair , she deserves everything and more for what she went through i hope she lives a good life and finds some comfort knowing she is so loved .
Not only she didn't get the 1 million USD as nobody was jailed for that? People should be in jail for that now.
@@JohnnyLynnLee who do you think should be jailed for it? It's a train. Not a plane. Train yards do not typically keep detailed logs of who worked on what. Nobody knows who left that door on the floor improperly secured. Because it felt to me like the locking mechanism worked itself lose over months or years, maybe because a securing bolt was missing or not tight enough. Listen to what Stephanie said.
Like the missing bolts on that plane door. The bolts on the plane didn't keep the door close. The bolts kept it secure, so that it didn't vibrated out of the actual mechanism that kept it closed. That plane made a lot of flights before the door popped out. A similar thing may have occurred here, where it was months or years since anybody touched that door. And because train yard logs do not detail which tech worked on what, we don't know who was responsible.
You don't just grab someone at random and make them the scapegoat.
@@danielch6662 The ones responsible for putting that on the FLOOR. That's clearly an STUPID idea. In Brazil we have "homicidio doloso", meaning murder where you had the intention of ending up killing someone and "homicidio culposo" murders where you had no intention of killing someone but someone died as direct result of your actions anyway. That's clearly the last. When you are dealing with people's lives you DO NOT get the right to make some mistakes. Simple as that. Anyone that greenlighted the idea of having that on the floor, IT DOESN'T MATTER if they realized that could happen or not, are responsible for what happened to her. For instance, if you drink and drive and kill someone it's simply MURDER. It doesn't matter whether you WANTED to kill. If you were driving drunk you ASSUMED the risk someone could die as a result of you actions. Jail, of course.
She ended up like that because of a stupid decision. ANYONE involved in that decision (on let that thing on the floor)is DIRECTLY responsible for her state now. Being STUPID is NOT an excuse for killing or hurting someone. And it`s like that i ANY civilized legislation. You cannot come up with the excuse it was a mistake`. There ar mistakes you DON`T have the right to commit. I`s really that simple.
@@danielch6662 And BY THE WAY, the company, as a juridic entity is responsible for what happens in their products and services. So the owners COULD be implicated, o course. In Brazil they CERTAINLY would go to jail AS WELL. Of course .It doesn`t matter if you "didn`t know". As the owner you SHULD took measures to know abut important details like that. simple as that.
Again, there are mistakes that you DO NOT have the right to take part it. If people die, or are injured, as a direct result of your actions or INACTION, for that matter, you PAY.
@@danielch6662 For instance, in Brazil we had the Brumadinho dam disaster. It was a series of mistakes. No one WANTED to flood the whole dam city. But a lot of people ended up in jail OF COURSER. There are mistakes that cannot be allowed, no matter your intentions. You can't just get away claimig being stupid. Ain't gonna fly.
"That amount is ridiculous, it's never been done before"... Well I'd guess falling through a trap door in a moving train, losing 2 full limbs and half of a 3rd, dragging yourself off the tracks using your remaining mangled limb, then lifting yourself up enough to get attention from another train speeding by, doing all of this while you've lost enough blood that you probably should have bled to death, and somehow managing to survive and appear in front of a court had never been done before either...
It's absolutely sickening that this family is left to handle this immense financial responsibility on their own. Hell, the amount she asked for likely wouldn't have even been enough to cover all of her immediate and future needs, and they give her such a tiny fraction of that... Beyond outrageous.
This video made me cry so hard my head hurts. This poor, brave, innocent woman went through so much. It hurts so so much to know she had to deal with all this.
There’s no amount of money enough for her, they should be kissing the floor she is in, and give her money for life for her and her entire family. This is so unfair. My love for her.
as a disabled person, i appreciate that this story didn't have a traditional "happy ending." what jia went through was a level of trauma so few will understand - the fairest way to share her story is to do so honestly, without sugarcoating her pain to assuage our discomfort.
i extend my compassion to her and her family as they navigate the many new normals ahead of them. 💙
thank you as always stephanie and rm team for bringing important stories to our feeds. your hard work is so appreciated!
Ik I'm so horrified by the treatment of her. All she asked for was compensation and that was too much
@@zoe_dawg Also the staff at the hospital and people at the court avoiding looking at her - that’s just terribly sad. : (
@@Ohdakkeinen yeah. I've only experienced a small taste of that. People have slowed down their cars to stare at me while I'm ticking (I have tourettes) and that really hurts. I can't imagine how horrible she must've felt everyday having everyone treat her like a monster
@@zoe_dawg I hope I'm not making other people feel uncomfortable, as I slow down or stop quite often to (quickly and hopefully politely) assess if someone needs help or is in distress when I see something unusual. I'm not a medical professional but I have received several first aid trainings and I try to be aware if other people are okay. Luckily, I was already able to help strangers in emergency situations several times. However, I wouldn't want to make others feel stared at, and normally you can sense very quickly if something is wrong or someone moves or behaves just different. I will still keep your comment in mind.
bless your soul ❤
I cried at the part when she tried to stay alive for those whom she loves and love her. So sad...
Ikr
Too sad
Damn. I don't think I can watch it anymore, had half a day of crying already 😢
Rotten Mango Team:
Let’s start a GOFUNDME for Gia?!
I was thinking about that too❤
YESSSSSSS
YES!!!
Yes!
I think this is my first comment ever on YT - but after hearing that story, I have to reply in hopes this main comment gets more attention. Aside from sharing her story, hope something more direct can be done to help her as well
I am crying for Gia right now... I've travelled dozens of times in China using these trains, the standing ticket, the hard seat ticket, all of them. I've been a foreign girl travelling solo all the time in those trains. The thought of something so normal to me and everyone in China, becoming so dangerous and deadly to one person is truly heartbreaking and terrifying. I can't even imagine what she went through, but I really admire her will power to survive and get justice. I have no words... I just wish her and her family more strength, and I hope that somehow, her life will be as painless and happy as possible... I wish there was a donation link, bringing awareness to this situation is important, but I wish we could help her more.
Humans are truly incredible. The determination of that woman
I have never seen a woman with so much resilience and the ability to survive. As a nursing student is is insane how she lived after all of this
The only other case I've heard of insane resilience to live is the case of the girl in south Africa I think. She was brutally attacked and saed by two men and they stabbed her and literally 75 to 80 percent cut her throat and head basically off left her in a ditch and she passed out then woke up some time later and literally was basically holding her head in place with her hands while she walked to some safety. Trust me if you watch that case my descriptions don't do it any justice. It is amazing how this girl survived. 99.9 percent of people die after you heat what happened to her. Can't remember her name though, it was crazy
These are the people who survived because the simply refused to die. I merely had dengue twice, and the first time, I was thinking _just kill me already._ The second time around, was a bit easier, simply because I knew what was coming. It was only later that I was made aware of the increased risks.
^^ same the 29 HR was so chilling idk what her bp would’ve been it’s a miracle she was still alive n managed to move
@@chrislong8559whats the name of the case
Whats you in nursing gotta do with this
What a horrific accident. She should have been compensated more than 1.5M. The mental and physical anguish...I can't imagine.
Adjusted for the increase in China's average salaries since 2005, and adjusting for the difference in average American and Chinese salaries, the $190k she received is actually equivalent to about $4.5m today.
Unfortunately, Stephanie never mentioned that this happened in 2005, and the final court judgement was in 2007. And people do not make allowances for the differences in income level between the US and China. The appropriate factor to multiply by is 24x. Salaries in the US is about 4x that in China today. And salaries in China in 2024 is about 6 - 7x that of China in 2005.
@@danielch6662 good point never even thought of a lot of the things you brought up, that makes it seem less like the court spat in her face. rotten mango really should mention the settlements adjusted for inflation and exchange rates etc.
She did mention it was in 2005. Secondly, the figure was worked out by calculating the amount of money she would need for all her care at the time n in the future. Did you not listen to the video? Only a portion was for moral distress. How can any normal decent person think that what she received was fair or just?! What that woman went through n is still going through is unimaginable n it was a clear fault of the train company.
@@bengibbs1318 nobody said what the company did or paid was fair or just, it would just be nice to have these international cases more transparent by including typical salery of said country and what setlements would be inflation adjusted. it is relevant and not doing so is almost sensationalizing the story so it seems even worse than it already is.
This is the realest story I’ve heard of survivors like this. It is raw, it is graphic and it is as horrible as you imagine it would be. I am horrified and heartbroken and am more aware of what they actually go through. No illusion of “everything will be okay in the end.” Thank you Stephanie. Life isn’t all sunshine and rainbows but I do hope and pray for Gia and her loved ones to find happiness in her new life. I cannot even begin to fathom the pain and the level of helplessness they’re going through.
im never complaining again
Yeah, I _was_ pretty upset about the headache Ive got right now, but its really not feeling like that big of a deal anymore
Thank you for not sugarcoating the outcome.
I fully understand Gia (Xia? Not sure how to spell her name)
I've been bedridden for over 20 years,
in unimaginable pain that makes me dream of unaliveing myself
And no sleeping pill helps to sleep.
Even fentanyl can't cut the pain.
It's pure misery and agony 24/7
It's not just people breathing on you that causes pain,
or them touching your bed and not you.
But just having someone infront of your door and
entering the room causes more pain.
Healthy people can't comprehend the amount of suffering.
Even most very sick and terminally ill will never Experience such agony.
Euthanasia should be a human right for people like us,
of course only if it's with consent.
It probably would be kinder for Gia to leave this earth .
My greatest empathy and understanding is with her
Thank you Mrs. Mango
Most people don't even understand how expensive it is to be disabled,
the more disabled, the more expensive and usually the most medical neglect
I’ve listened to so many of Stephanie’s stories, but this one truly scared me to my core. The feeling of hopelessness and imminent danger every second is pure torture.
Man, I don't know which is worse, kidnapped by some organ trafficking gang or just a freak accident by the worst possible train design ever.
Both since you have a chance to live or die with a bad ending of having severe trauma
Please,now's not the time for that.
My husband became a paraplegic at age 43 when the board he was walking on while building a pole barn split apart & he fell 16 feet, landing in a sitting position, causing his vertebrae to essentially pancake or compress. He had 3 vertebral compression fractures at T4, T8 & T10 & 1 burst fracture at L1 that send bone shards into his spinal cord, not completely severing it, but causing enough damage (turned the sounal cord into hamburger basically) tgat it was functionally a complete SCI. We decided, after almost 2 years & beginning to see the financial devastation & future medical costs we were facing, to sue the lumber company that nanufactured the board & the business that sold the lumber. 1st, we had to figure out WHO had manufactured the board bc there were boards from several lumber companies. Well, WE didn't figure it out. It was investigators & lawyers who did based on the stamps on the boards & where they were in the constructed building. Turns out it was a MAJOR lumber company. Arguably the largest in the U.S. ( maybe, not sure) & their grading practices were abysmal, leading the board in question being misgraded. The company refused to settle prior to the trial, calling it a nuisance suit even though the mitigation attorney advised them to. The business that sold the lumber, however, DID come to an agreement with us that would guarantee that even if we lost, we would get some $, which frankly any amount would've been a blessing & if we won, we would settle for policy limits, even if we were awarded more. Well, it turns out the big lumber corporation was kind of shady & we won. We got the smaller settlement from the lumber yard that sold the pallet. The big company appealed, lost, tried to con us into settling in a way that would mean that we would owe them $1 million (yeah, seriously), appealed, lost, appealed, lost & then 8 yesrs after we won the lawsuit, finally settled for far more than tge initial award nc of 8 years of interest. Sadly, by this time, my husband was in End-Stage renal failure & on dialysis. He would live only about another 1 1/2 years after we settled with the ahole lumber company. We had divided the award in half, with half going to our kids when he died, so that was a comfort to us both that they would also be compensated for the devastation that this had caused our family. He's been gone over 4 years now & I try not to think of the lawyer for the corporation who dragged it out for years & then was replaced when the company was sold bc I feel so much anger at what a POS he is/was. One thing that came out of our lawsuit that made it all worth suing is that the company stopped the terrible grading process that had been producing over 2 million bad & misgraded boards per year, meaning potentially 2 million construction workers being killed or horrubly injured, & switched to computerized lazer grading. I'm an RN, so I was uniquely qualified to take care of my husband & this helped tremendously, but I was also working 12 hour shifts at the hospital & raising 4 kids, & no amount of $ is worth what our family, & especially my husband went thru & endured on a daily basis. Gia not receiving even a quarter of the compensation she needed & deserved makes me so angry on her behalf. That RR company was negligent & it's a miracle more people weren't injured or killed. I can tell you from our experience that it's a neverending, daily grind. Things that we all take for granted, Gia can no longer do. Her life is devastatingly forever altered & each day is a struggle for her & her family.
I'm so sorry that your family has had to go through that, and I hope that your husband can R.I.P. I'm glad you were able to fight those companies and see something from it, it's not easy to do.
It's so sad to hear what happened to your husband. I had a similar fall, but it was due to my own idiocy. And it was considerably lower (about 12 ft), and I wasn't injured.
Anyway, her name is not Gia. I don't know why Stephanie called her that, because Chinese names are not typically shortened in this way. Anyway her name is Hu Jiajin, but you wouldn't find anything under that name in google, because she's Chinese, and her real name is therefore in Chinese, which is 胡家津. Copy/paste that into google and you'd find it, but you'd probably have to use google translate like I had to, unless you read Chinese. The case is not widely mentioned on the English Internet, because it happened back in 2005, and nobody cared about what happened in China back then.
There are all sort of weird things that happened in China, if you read the Chinese websites. I'm Overseas Chinese and I don't read a word of Chinese, but I have friends who do, and they'll tell me about them. The craziest is a 24-year old intern nurse in Shenzhen who got decapitated in 2013 when the lift door closed on her and then rapidly descended just as she was walking out. There were several videos on YT back then. As her headless body fell back bleeding out on to the middle of the floor, everybody else inside tried to climb the walls trying to get away from her. Then the door opened on another level and everybody rushed out.
@@danielch6662 Thank you for the information, I am very interested in learning more about Jiajin & how she & her family are doing. One thing we learned after the accident, is that when a person suffers a life-altering tragedy, the people in their immediate family suffer collateral damage with their lives also being forever damaged/changed even tho they are not the injured party. I don't think most people realize that. Or that dealing with the fallout is a neverending marathon. Another thing people did that we turned into a joke, was that people treat physically disabled people as if they're invisible &/or mentally handicapped. When people would do that I would tell them that my husband wasn't any more mentally handicapped than he was b4 the accident. One time when we were at Disneyland, I was pushing him in his wheelchair, & some woman cut right in front of him diagonally as if he wasn't even there. Naturally, she got clipped by the wheelchair bc thos things don't stop on a dime, especially on a slight decline. She gave me a nasty look & I told her straight out that she needed to be more aware of her surroundings & that wheelchairs can't stop on a dime or abruptly bc centrifugal force & if I stopped too abruptly, I would have dumped my husband out of the chair. My kids tell me that I give out a "don't eff with me" vibe in general, & the look I gave this Karen was, accirding to them, my "Mom look on steroids", lol. So, she apologized & quickly git as far away from us as possible. I'm a retired ED RN & have taken care of people who have fallen 25 ft or more without SCI & sometimes without any injuries at all. It's not always how far you fall, it how you land, for example, landing on your feet or in a sitting position, which is how my husband landed. Essentially, he landed on his coccyx (tailbone), which is the lowest part of the vertebrae, & this caused the impact of or the energy created by his fall to be solely absorbed by his spinal column resulting in catastrophic damage to his vertebrae & spinal cord.
Those in the court and the train company members who fought proper compensation should be shamed by the public.
This is so horrific, and the “compensation” is disgraceful and disrespectful!!! They spit in her face on top of everything, they need to be SHUT DOWN!!! Pay her what she is owed and shut them down!!!
Is there some way to donate to help?!
Disgusting that they would give her so little money. I hope this case picks up more attention and people boycott this horrible train company. It's never too late to cancel bad corporations. She deserves proper compensation and the people in that area NEED to get mad over this.
The company doesn't exist anymore. It was absorbed into China Railway when China decided to merge most of the regional railway companies back in 2013. And the accident happened in 2005.
This hit hard,my husband was in a airboat in the swap of south Louisiana and the boat hit something and over turned cut completely his lower right leg off by the prop with was a 4feet 4 blade prop.he thank God survived.i was 7months pregnant with our daughter so we named her faith bc we knew God would take care of us and He has.thank you for sharing this story.blessings to the family,prayers for her and all to heal physically and emotionally ❤
God bless you guys ❤️
Aww hun ❤
Sending you warmest hug ❤
So how is life for you and your family? Are you guys fine? Or it was hard till this day?
OMG, this made me cry. I wish you and your family a life as normal and happy as possible.
The fact that they wouldn't meet her eyes and STILL said that she was asking for too much ?!? Insane, have them fall there too, all of them, jfc how can so many people be responsable for it and responsable for giving her justice and just fail her so much and so- I don't have the words, I'm just glad she has support and can be with her family and is getting better
The people that couldn't look at her were the hospital staff who couldn't bear it because the knew exactly how much she was suffering every time they had to care for her. But it still needed to be done. And THEY were obviously not responsible for her falling through the floor of the train.
@@danielch6662 ofc but she also said that in the courtroom noone would meet her in the eyes, those are who I'm talking about obvs, I'm just the doctors and nurses where great
It's good that Stephanie ended this on a gloomy note because fok them. No one can gloss over how painful, devastating, and inhumane Jia went over and over and over to use it as some inspirational story except herself.
This case is disgusting, I don't know how people can sleep sound at night knowing that nobody paid the price for their incompetence and ruining a woman's life
Wow. $190k is A spit in the face. That's absolutely Awful. That surely didn't cover medical cost.
Either you're in a third world country or in the US of A. No other place on earth would charge these obscene amounts of money for necessary procedures. Yeah, taxes, you might say. what would you prefer if given the misfortune?
@XmarkedSpot medical expenses are more than just hospital bills, doctors, and medicine. What about at home care? Disability aids? Things that may not be considered necessary by the medical coverage peeps but they would be to her
@@walter-vq1fw I may have worded it poorly; so let me rephrase: a considerable amount of taxes is used to provide for anyone who can't do it for themselves. This includes _everything_ from food to shelter to medication to rehabilitation to well, you name it.
I think I somewhat understand the US mindset a.k.a. each for his own and it is a legitimate (albeit arguably asocial) way of life, I just happen to prefer when everyone looks out for each other. It is often inefficient but there's a distinct lack of what I perceive as the cruel cynicism of the lucky.
@@XmarkedSpot can't comment on the exact amount for specific needs but i think what makes the amount ridiculous is not whether it's enough compensation or not, but the fact that someone lose her limbs over their irresponsible choices, but they're trying to make is sound like she was begging for money saying "it's too much". i would not take ANY amount of money in exchange for ANY parts of my body. i get papercuts on fingers on my non dominant hand and it will be an inconvenience in some way. so her losing half of her body and pretty much taking her whole life just to recover/live differently all over again, asking for 1.5M is not a lot. i doubt she was gonna use the money to go buy designer's bags or clothes.
@@fascienneskytten5497 Since OP mentioned monetary compensation in the context of medical costs I focused on that part only, my bad. You're quite right, I have nothing to add.
The court ruling in her case is such an injustice!! The suffering that woman has faced is unimaginable!
My husband lost his entire leg (including hip) nearly 40 years ago in a workplace accident in Texas. He was between two semi trucks piggy backing each other, making adjustments, when a fellow employee unknowingly dropped the truck on him. He shouldn't have survived, as it nearly sheared off his lower body. They were able to save one leg by pinning it back together. He spent a year in the hospital and rehab, turning 21 in the hospital.
I've heard Texas is the worst state in the US for workers compensation. The court ruling offered him ONLY $10,000 OR lifetime medical. Thankfully he chose the medical, which has been a lifesaver as he ages.
He still deals with phantom pains to this day, though they thankfully occur less often. Sometimes he'll "feel" his phantom leg twisted and bent up over his head, or in other odd angles. It may last for hours or even days.
He's a remarkable man with amazing willpower to function as best he can.
My heart just aches for this woman given the extreme loss she's suffered! My prayers are with her that she's able to carve out a life of contentment, despite the challenges she faces, and that her family can remain strong in the supportive care she'll always need.
ONLY $10,000 ??? That's absolutely outrageous of them.
49:54 that's so dumb. Why would they do that? Create a false floor in the middle of the aisle?? I'm surprised this hasn't happened to more people.
right?? what would even be the use of that?
EXACTLY. Like somehow no one's ever stepped on it before this? That should be a huge concern and everyone who works on the train should at least know about it. The most suspicious part to me is how did it close back after she fell through? It had to have, if they couldn't find the hole right? Unless someone knowingly closed it before the husband started looking? Idk there's no motive to intentionally lay this trap but still.. doesn't it seem almost intentional?
@@HopAndLockDropSoppityPopI agree. Either this HAS happened before and the train company keeps everything hidden, it’s a major cover up OR it was intententional by someone who didn’t want her to survive.
Edit: ok so I did just get to the end of the video and it seems like just extreme negligence on the company’s part. Again it’s hard to imagine that this has NEVER happened before. But sounds like the train company just wanted to save a few bucks fixing the old train car. Such an infuriating case. My heart breaks for jia… like even $1million may not cover her medical bills. It’s not like she would’ve walked away rich. WHICH she deserves. I cannot even begin to imagine the mental and physical pain she goes through everyday
@@rachel_ellingson exactly! Cause those mfs be acting like this is rare to dismiss her case as not their fault. How is it that they have a false hall in the middle of a walking aisle, they're acting like no one has stepped on it and suffered the same thing
Stephanie explained it. Weren't any of you listening to what she said? There's no trap door in the middle of every train car in China. There was a mechanism that was supposed to secure the opening in a fool-proof way, but was apparently and very unfortunately not fool-proof enough. Obviously. Because she fell through it.
The way Stephanie described it, I don't think it was just a plate secured by a single bolt. It was a bit more secure than that, but still not safe enough. And they had it only on a couple of train cars because they were calibrating the a/c. I assume the day after it happened, they pulled those cars so that it doesn't happen again.
Because very few people are as stupid as Boeing. Brushing off the first accident and blaming it on _third world pilots are not as well trained and not as good as western pilots_ , only to have it happen the second time was the start of all their problems.
This gave me a new fear of trains
This is the most heartbreaking story I’ve heard on this channel. Her strength and resilience are astounding, and the injustice that’s been done to her is unfathomable.
We need to start a go fund me for her. It won't do anything, ANYTHING, to replace what she's lost, but hopefully it can help to some degree.
First, you need to know her name. It's Hu Jiajin. Her husband is Li Pengcheng. In 2005, they were living in Liuzhou in Guangxi. They were returning from Jishou in Hunan. The train was from Zhangjiajie (Hunan) to Nanning (Guangxi). The accident happened near Sanjiang County (Guangxi). Guangxi is adjacent to Hunan, and south-south-west of Hunan, between Hunan and Vietnam. It is also just west of Guangdong (previously spelled Canton).
Agreed
@@danielch6662 get this to the top along with the og comment she NEEDS a gofundme
Yes!
@@danielch6662hi, do you know what’s the name of the train company?
$190K?!?!?!? Wtf?! What a 🤬 slap in the face. What a horrific story. This is devastating.
It was about 22x the average salary in China in 2005. Courts outside of the US tend not to award a lot of money.
She will never recover from this. Her mental state, her care, she needs round the clock care. The Train Co. should pay her millions. Don’t they have insurance to cover accidents ? 😢
If you want to know, you can go bug her and find out. It's been 19 years already. Her accident was in 2005. I wouldn't though. Not unless I've collected a large amount of donations, and the only reason to bother them is to find out how to pass it to them.
@@danielch6662 Did someone bug you? Get a grip!
I'm so disgusted at the compensation awarded, nevermind their attitude towards it. How do the people involved here even sleep at night. The 1.5 million was a very conservative request considering the extent of the life changing injuries. Makes me sick that someone could be treated like this.
the justice system was awful. how could they not look at her, even all that? the hypocrisy + audacity from that company, it's atrocious.
And those POS that run that damn company, need to be in PRISON? We gotta spread her story more. This is the first I'm hearing of it.
You're like 20 years too late. The accident happened in 2005. If you want to google it, her name is Hu Jiajin. But other than Stephanie, nobody's talking about it in the English world. You have to put in her actual name (in Chinese) into the search engine to get anything: 胡家津, and then use google translate. That's what I did. I don't read Chinese either.
PS: and the only reason I found anything at all is because Stephanie and her husband have a website for this podcast, and there are links/references there.
WAIT A MOMENT! Not only she didn't get the 1 million USD as nobody was jailed for that? People should be in jail for that now.
Who do you think should be in jail?
Or do you not care who, and just want somebody to be blamed and scapegoated?
@@danielch6662 Did you stop watching the video halfway? How about the engineers who put a hole in the floor because they were too lazy to do repairs safely. You see it as blame and scapegoating because you have no empathy for victims, only for corporations.
@@danielch6662it's the company that doesn't care. if they did, a very preventable accident would not have occurred. what kind nonsense company allows their train to have a trap door in a hallway? a hallway where people up and down in? a neglectful avoiding cost stupid company is what allows that.
@@danielch6662Either you’re someone who is Unloved and can’t fathom even the smallest of idea what it’s like to be loved Or you Quit watching the video midway because your have the Attention span of a peanut
@@danielch6662 The ones responsible for putting that on the FLOOR. That's clearly an STUPID idea. In Brazil we have "homicidio doloso", meaning murder where you had the intention of ending up killing someone and "homicidio culposo" murders where you had no intention of killing someone but someone died as direct result of your actions anyway. That's clearly the last. When you are dealing with people's lives you DO NOT get the right to make some mistakes. Simple as that. Anyone that greenlighted the idea of having that on the floor, IT DOESN'T MATTER if they realized that could happen or not, are responsible for what happened to her. For instance, if you drink and drive and kill someone it's simply MURDER. It doesn't matter whether you WANTED to kill. If you were driving drunk you ASSUMED the risk someone could die as a result of you actions. Jail, of course.
What the courts gave her is criminal. They should be MADE to look her in the eye and tell her that $190,000 is all she's worth. Corporations are criminals.
The part with her sister made me sick with horror. I'm so glad she was unsuccessful.
I don't think her intention was to exit her life.
She wanted to imagine what it would be like by lying there when train runs over you.
Which is..... 😖😖
I don't personally have to lie there tbh. I can imagine it just like that and it makes me feel so.....
I can't even find the words what that woman went through. Truly speechless.
Only a retired train conductor would put a winter coat on a deer and leave it on the tracks. An angry retired train conductor.
That sounds suspicious and weird af. Illogical.
But couldn’t anyone want to fuck with someone driving a train by the deer & coat thing? Idk, I can just see some idiots thinking that’s funny.
Little punk ass kids from a town I lived close to parked a shitty car on the railway just to watch the train hit it. With no regard to the lives of those driving the train, anyone else that could possibly be on the train, and what could happen if the train derailed, etc.
Oh yeah, that never came up again. Is this really something train conductors do cos it sounded so random.
I ready your comment as she talked about that part 😅
This is absolutely horrific! That poor woman is stuck in a living hell and to deprive her of any sort of proper compensation should be illegal. I remember years ago there was a rollercoaster crash over here in the uk and a young woman lost her leg and she was awarded a multimillion pound compensation.
I'm devastated and gutted for this poor woman and her family 😭
190.000 dollars isnt even enough to buy a house....but to heal a person who lost literally all of their limbs and their happiness??? we're all fucked
I’m so angry that she wasn’t compensated for her pain, suffering, emotional distress, loss of wages and the sheer incompetence of the railway company for repurposing a train car and building a trap door in the floor that anyone could fall through. Whether it was on purpose or not, they were responsible for her injuries because they didn’t properly cover it.
My mother was an amputee. She was type 1 diabetic. Watching her deal with the phantom pain was hard.
It was a bodge job. These things are quite common in the third world. China is still a third world country today. It very much was so back in 2005 when this thing happened. Though today, their railway isn't third world anymore, though other things could be. It's the result of extremely rapid economic growth, which is then somewhat uneven. I see it in my own country, though probably not to anywhere close to what China went through the last 20 years.
I'm no lawsuit expert but something tells me if this happened in the states she would have gotten 1 million dollars at the VERY least. Why didn't the courts grant her that? It's crazy to me.
Definitely, in the U.S. she would get millions in a settlement. 😮
Or the UK. Seems like it'd be that way in any western country.
100%! she would’ve won the case & got millions in compensation, just like that lady that got burned by coffee from mcdonald’s.
I would assume any country would award millions to a victim of this sort. I really can't understand this.
The company shouldn't even exist anymore. This wasn't a little "whoopsie" where someone tripped on it and broke their ankle. It was, at the very least, an extremely negligent oversight that resulted in a woman's mutilation and near-death. The company should have taken full responsibility and been shut down. This whole thing is insane, I can't believe it's real.
I'm just frozen, how can pain of this magnitude exist? I'm so sorry. I hope that she finds peace and her family too. I'll keep her in my prayers. One day all pain will end.
Name the train company
Only 190k?! And she even have to beg for it? I really hate those money hungry companies, I couldn't even imagine the hell she has to went through just to be degraded like that. Really infuriating.
If there is a HOLE on a fucking train any sensible person will warn their passengers and put some signs, caution tape or even not decommission the train.
There's no visible hole on the floor. That is exactly the point. It operated like a trap door though it was not intended to be one. There is a mechanism that's supposed to keep it closed and safe to step on. But over time, vibrations made the mechanism unsafe, and then, only if you step at exactly the correct spot, does it flip open and you fall through.
Think of the door on the 737 that made several flights despite no bolt ever being installed. After bouncing around through multiple takeoffs and landings, it finally did bounced out of the mechanism that was keeping it attached to the plane.
Only in a country with robust health and safety legislation. That is prosecuted severely when companies fail to abide by the laws. Our expectations of 'common sense' are built on legislation MAKING companies do basic stuff, every law was written because someone or many people, got killed because companies generally will do NOTHING that costs them money UNLESS they will be prosecuted for it. The People's Republic of China has bugger all in the way of a health and safety culture and their workplace and social accidents are horrific and common and very reminiscent of stuff that happened a lot in the west before wer started writing proper laws regarding how public and workers should be protected.
I was just scrolling her page to find a video to listen to and clean. what a coincidence!
Same 😂
SAME
right😭
Same, I needed something before sleeping 🤣
Perfect timing😊God bless you in the name of Jesus Christ, who is the name above all names & the only way to Heaven❤
I don't know how you managed to retell a story as if you were there. Your memory and the similes captivate me. So very sad for this brave survivor.
Thank you Stephanie for shining light on the gross negligence of that train company. Now known because of you.
I’m a double amputee and phantom pain is horrible
A sister so affected by what happened to her sister, to the point of laying on a railroad track to feel her sister’s , wow !!! Her husband’s commitment to her. I hope she is always surrounded by love.
Can’t help but think of the children with amputated limbs and how much suffering they must be in on top of loosing their homes. This case helped me gain newfound empathy and understanding for those living with phantom limb syndrome. So well told, thanks Stephanie!
oh my god this case is so terrifying. a random hole in the floor of a train?????
I have not finish the video yet, but this is an bittersweet rimender of a woman from my country named Daniela García. In 2002 she also fell from a moving train, when she was moving from one wagon to another. She lost her four limbs. But she did not lose consciouness, someone that was walking by found her and called the emergency servieces, she was rushed to the nearest health center in Rancagua iirc. At the time she was studying medicine, she was so young. The bittersweett comes after, she pulled through it all, got prothesis, got her degree, wrote the book "eligí vivir" (I chosed to live) and the last thing I heard she was studying at Harvard. Apunto a su perseverancia, su fuerzas y ganas de luchar contra la adversidad y ganar 💜 es una mujer muy seca.
Wow! What a story! I shall look that up! God bless her!
You made it sound like someone was involved with her disappearance so I did not expect the end at all. Poor woman ,what a terrifying experience
That woman is insanely strong. I dont think anyone in my life including myself could withstand such mental and physical conditions. I hate how unfairly gia was treated💔
Me too
How the hell does a tile in the floor just open and close!?!?!
I can only assume that court was completely corrupt because how do you award such a small amount to someone whose life was so greatly altered by CLEAR actions taken by the train company! They cut corners! It wasn’t like it was a perfectly fine train and it was a freak accident, they made modifications that were not standard. They have to take responsibility! 100k is nothing to a corporation like that! They bought that judge… that is the only conclusion i can come up with without knowing more… there really is no justice in this world…
But there is, in the next!☝🏼👑
I almost started to tear up hearing what she had to go through omg I pray for her peace and happiness
Thank you for existing and letting me have these videos I appreciate this much more than social media
IDK why, I just got the "Murder on the Orient Express" flashbacks, when I read the title for the first time.
Omg saaame
EXACTLY
You should know why. You got flashbacks bc that's what this is related to. It's about a missing person on a train.
@@katelynbrown98 thank you
I find it crazy she wasn’t granted the money she requested because that was nothing compared to what she will have to forever deal with. What she got wouldn’t even cover the hospital bill if she was in America. But imagine all the financial burden they brought to her all because they put a trap door on a train wear hundreds of people walk through
For me, this case was harder to listen to than a lot of the other depraved murders and horrific crimes caused by humans, because this just proves how quickly things can change in an instant and by accident
Holy shit. Thats horrifying. I cannot imagine the trauma the woman must now live with.
Hearing Stephanie discribe the feeling of phantom limbs is so horrifying when you remember that so many chindren in Gaza might be going through the same thing but without medical care or compensation.
Accountability is the hardest thing for companies to do! It’s most unfortunate that we have no real way to actually counteract this!
Already listened to the podcast episode ♥️Thank you Stephanie and the RM team for shedding light and spreading awareness on so many cases.
Im devastated by this. We need to do something for her!!
I was thinking the same, maybe some sort of donation website similar to go fund me is out there for her? 😭 Can someone find it?
Convinced those in the courtroom were bribed, I truly hope this lady has as much of a wonderful life as she can. This is heartbreaking.
I feel so sorry for her but at the same time she's so strong for going through all of this:(
that train company should not be in business, i hope Gia can find happiness some day
The train company no longer exists. It got merged with other regional railways back in 2013 to form what is now called China Railways (CR). And let's hope Hu already has, since the accident was in 2005.
PS: her name is Hu Jiajin 胡家津
@@danielch6662 thank you for letting me know and i apologise for getting her name mixed up : )
This case broke my heart. I started crying near the part where she had to lift herself off the tracks, listening to her husband calling her over and over 💔
Sameeeee 😢😢😢😢😢
Ohhh the level of misogyny, ableism, and pure evil is unbelievable
It is crazy how she managed to stay alive.... I cannot imagine the pain, even a second.....
I cannot believe her resilience and strength. What an incredible, heroic woman. I’m so sad for her that she has gone through this and that the awful train company got away with shirking their responsibility after they butchered her!
Sending love to Gia and her family. I can’t believe the court rejected the amount she requested for compensation ! Appalling!!!!!
Excellent work to Rotten Mango’s Team.
1.5 million isn’t even good enough. And they didn’t even give it to her? I feel so bad and guilty. The entire time when you were talking about her injuries I could even look at myself, I could feel every part of my body and to think someone can not do that? I feel so bad for her. She had her entire life shattered in a few seconds and they couldn’t even give her less than a quarter of what she deserved.
It sounds like a nightmare. It's so terrifying that I almost cried listening to it