US student protests: Analysis and historical comparison | DW News
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- Tension on US university campuses is rising after police arrested hundreds of pro-Palestinian student demonstrators. Students at dozens of colleges in the US have been demonstrating against the war in Gaza. They've been calling on administrators to divest from companies that allegedly profit from Israel's war against Hamas.
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0:00 Background on the arrests on campuses
1:45 Benjamin Alvarez Gruber, DW Correspondent
4:01 Robert Cohen, Professor of Social Studies Education, NYU
9:13 David Farber, Professor of modern US history, University of Kansas
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If this was Turkish students protesting against Erdogan , DW headline would be : Brutal clampdown on Students continues all over the country .
Türkiye free than US
it would be the truth, but still this has nothing to do with this video. freaking turks want to make everything about them.
'Cause it would be a brutal clampdown. Turkiye is no democracy.
My post on the most important and urgent matter (the G thing) was swiftly censored by UT. The truth hurts.
Türkiye Demokrasi,
,Germany Demoszion!
Funny how violence always breaks out when the cops show up.
??? You the short bus kid? Logic could debunk your hate
The stupidist thing I heard all day.
Ooh please DW! why is it so difficult to call it "protests against Israel genocidal campaign continues in America?"
Well... people tend to be violent against the police.
@@heartofsteel7821 Because that would be taking a side. It may have escaped your notice, but some media outlets *try* to stay objective instead of pandering to the most popular opinion.
Condemning Israeli war crimes is not a crime.
@InvaderZimWorseOrBetter that antisemitism bill was total BS 😢
Agreed. The condemnation in and of itself is not a crime. It’s what’s done *in the name of* that condemnation that could be criminal. Of course, the same goes for condemnation of the condemnation.
😂😂😂😂 but it is not just condemning
invading a private property its, collaborating with a terror organization may be a crime too.
When protest becomes chaotic and the freedom of speech and fundamental human rights are going beyond their scope. Then, no responsible authority will fold uts hand. They are all adults and should be treated as such.
It is not anti-Semitic to call for a ceasefire. The media seems to place a lot of emphasis on the agitators when most protests have been peaceful.
But they don't want people to think that way since it's against their interests and the interest of their sponsors.
It's not leftist to support the religious far-right of the Hamas.
Cease fire for what
That's not the only thing they're calling for. That's the issue. You haven't listened to the hate they're spewing?
@@ItzCoopzFtwTell us about the "hate they are spewing". What exactly do you mean? Examples? Sources?
Why can't Americans protest that Wallstreet again?
Because the wall has moved to Palestine now
Including Roger Waters
Because everyone decided neoliberalism won. It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.
then you would cheer at them being attacked for that too; but also if anyone even dared to mention walstreet in this context you would call it 'anti-semitic trope'
I always like to watch DW coverage when I'm missing that hypocrisy in my life. This is Germany's RT.
I’ve notice the same thing, that this movement is growing at lightening speed compared to the Viet Nam War protests. Generation Z were born into the digital, social media space. At this rate, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Mid-West campuses join in big time, also, I could easily imagine high schools, nationwide, getting active. We don’t know what this Z generation is capable of. I’m 72, but I say, Go Gen Z!
These young adults are determined to change the world. ❤
Every generation prior to them has failed to address climate disaster, and has only handed more wealth and power to the top 5% - Gen Z has no choice
Surely some 20-year olds who have no idea about a generational conflict in a part of the world they've never even been near will solve everything 'at lightning speed'. 🥴
I’m Arab and I know these protests have been funded by Qatar
They are getting paid
So much is the freedom of expression and peaceful protest.. USA should be ashamed....
What dou you mean? They're allowed to protest, just not on campus. Why stop other people from going to the classes they payed for?
They stop other people to go to the classes, they break stuff in the university, they threaten verbally to kill, all these are crimes and violence , for sure there is nothing peaceful here
@@vulturu.x4329 'Cause it's effective. Like back in the Vietnam-era.
@@vulturu.x4329 If US can commit genocide again and again then rules of law is meaningless.
@@univeropa3363 University tuition has increased exponentially since the Vietnam War. There are going to countless students all across America who grew up in poverty who will have their lives significantly impacted by this. Many may never be able to enroll in university again because of the destabilization caused by these protests interrupting their lives. These will be the people least able to alter policy, but they will be the ones most affected. The targeting is wrong. All these protests are going to do is cause even more harm. They aren't going to fix anything.
Innocent and poor lives doesn't matter...only powerfuls
I learned the hardcore truth of today's world
Its always been like this big fish eat small one to survive
Oh cool....did you get yourself a Che Guevara t-shirt too?
do you still remember, when hong kong students protested, what did you say?
Protest for you but not for me
those who died for "FREEDOMS" all those years in america have made the ultimate sacrifice for......?
They were pawns.
@topicalstormofficial agreed. Also, our tax dollars are literally funding deaths overseas right now. Lots of people very angry that our government doesn't listen to us anymore. The people have lost their voice and are willing to get violent to get it back.
Freedom is for lecturing other countries. 😅
??? Um..the best country and civilization the world as ever seen. How did this confuse you?
@@jasonfuchs4304
The "greatest civilization" is attacking its future generations is against the majority of American opinion in regards to Ukraine and Israel.
I and the dead soldiers must have been confused when we heard america is for freedoms, but I'm glad these protesters are clearing up that confusion
Police rioting in USA just like here in Africa, why don't they allow peaceful demonstration to go on as they always advise other nations
They want civil wars in Africa but no no you can't do that in the US
Why not report how Brown or Northwestern handled the situation?
too peaceful thus too boring to mass report ......
The night-time mob attack on the ceasefire and divest protester camp in LA eerily looks like settler violence in the West Bank, with the police for a very long time dispassionately looking on
And the mob in Hong Kong that attacked students with no reaction from the police
There are other similarities with everything going on in Gaza and the west bank. The media rhetoric. Weeks of demonization of the protesters. Unsubstantiated garbage. Outright lies. Constant accusations of antisemitism. Calling them terrorists. Building fear. Trying to make mundane objects look like sinister terrorist tools. Constant claims of "outside agitators" while providing no evidence and it's clear the attacking mob were all from outside the campus.
The media has been hammering on these protesters for weeks. Some major networks didn't even give this attack a segment. Like it didn't happen. Others acted as if it was unclear of who instigated when it was entirely obvious and the whole thing is on video, including from a news helicopter and crews on the ground. One of the early victims was a news crew getting maced.
The mob drew back at one point to dance, chant "USA USA" while waving Israeli flags, proud of the brutality they had just inflicted. They had people posing as bystanders trying to get interviews with the news. One was asked if he was with the mob, he denied it right after he went on an "us vs them" rant deflecting everything onto the protesters.
Everything these protesters have been accused of just manifested in an attack from a violent pro-Israeli mob. The media and some of our politicians share some blame in this. Of course, no one will admit their rhetoric is contributing to the hatred and making people unsafe. The whole thing is absurd.
Exactly…those are outside agitators,probably Mosad or just israeli agents
@@davidwashington4282 In that part of the world, the police are the mob.
"We dissolved the protest because of outside agitators." - isn't that exactly the pretext Georgia, Russia and Iran use to suppress their citizens opposition?
It's part of the classic authoritarian suppression handbook.
The same old method of trying to delegitimize and demonize the protesters using false flags, in order to get the public opinion favorably to police aggression, until the protests are suppressed.
Bingo.
Democracy bro 🎉🎉
Lol. But notice the violence isn't from the demonstrators , but those trying to stop them
No it's by those tired of not being able to study
I noticed protest following Hamas killers destroying my property and attacking cops. You literally can just Google this. How were you confused?
@@jasonfuchs4304From which sources do you get your information?
This show 111srex11 violence against peaceful protestor . Taking away Americans rights to peaceful protest.
@@ansgarm.cordie9659Good question. He’s just spreading lies and hoping it’ll work. Ignore him.
Police violence continues on US campuses. Get it straight DW
shame on DW to label students as violence protest.
what a way to spin it, get a grip
@@davidcvetkowhere have you been the last 100 year ?
America criminalizes protests? What kind of freedom is this?
bro thinks protests should last several decades before being heard or switch to violent options
DW - Headlines should have read ' Brutal US crackdown on university students- democracy backsliding? '
Remember India ??
Itni aukad Nahi he inki.
You want him to lose his job? Journalists are getting fired left and right for criticizing Israel’s treatment of innocent people. Their tongues are tied to the apartheid regime.
"illegal occupation of private property and removal of squatters" should be the title. Most people don't understand that universities are own privately and funded partially by the US government. Its like going to walmart, its open to the public but if you start squatting and disrupting the peace, they can have you removed. Same thing with students here.
@@oldsenpai4337 If Israel hadn’t been practicing illegal occupation in the first place, none of this would have happened.
@@oldsenpai4337 has no idea how peaceful protest works.
Violent police force vs peaceful protesters. Way to go freedom of expression. What a joke of a country 😂
they aren't peaceful protesters. they're paid agitators. paid by enemies of America.
@@user-ks2uo3qh7itell us how democratic you are again 😂
This coverage missed the obvious comparison to the campus based campaign for divestment from apartheid south africa.
I'm shocked that the NYC mayor admitted that it was police that escalated things... and disappointed that he doesn't condemn them.
Nancy pelosi, this is a beautiful sight to behold.
Only if you're willfully blind. 🙈🙉🙊
that is what she said exactly, you dont know?
@@songnianzhang366I remember how hypocrites in congress support Hong Kong protest 5 years ago.
AMERICA wake up, these demonstrations make Putin ver happy!
Israeli lobby groups have huge power in the US
And Water is Wet. 😏
Literally america is under the control of israel
So do the people. The US would not be anything without its people. If you get enough to stand up, things will change
And thank God, Israel has the power that it does
Because of that, the huge power extends to America's "allies"
NYPD writing fiction, they can get work with the NYT.
Peaceful agitation is bad but genocides in gaza is good?
The university is citadel of freedom , in Iran the police are not allowed to enter the campus under any circumstances.
"pressure from Congress and donors", this professor is on point
This anchor has the most balanced international news segments both on DW and BBC. Don't know his name but I'm impressed everytime I see his segments
Easily one of the best anchors in DW
Mouth piece of disinfo 😂😂. Presstitudes pretending to be an independent news source.👀👀🪞🪞🪞🙃🙃⁉️⁉️🥺🤔🤔🤔🤐🤐🤐
Thanks God this is not happening in Germany. Good students.
En Argentina no estan pasando ninguna noticia de lo que esta pasando en la UCLA, es raro, siempre pasan las noticias de EEUU pero esta no. Me entere por redes de este gran acontecimiento.
Milei le lame las pelotas al gobierno de EEUU, por lo que no sorprende que los medios que lo apoyan estén ocultando información.
In India
Same thing happened but usa give moral lectures hope they get there own medicine
Soon these protests will become violent
I am sensing a wild scale protests and can escalate current situation
These is not the way to diffuse them
Well if the administrator don't stop the protests, then they themselves will get fired. So either way it's kind of authoritarian.
So scare of the Jhews in power.
So what are the students using to lock up their bikes if they’re on the building?
😂
Some people are smart enough to buy a second lock. I guess you're not among them, so here's the TLDR:
There are these things called stores. If you go into them, you will find that they have an assortment of goods, There is also a thing called money; if you give the store enough of it they will give you the goods of your choice in exchange. This is what we call "commerce"
@@disorganizedorgthe joke flew MILES HIGH above your head
@@davidcvetko ...as did the fact that I was ridiculing it as a poor joke.
@@disorganizedorg no, that would be buying a bicycle lock for another purpose…
What scares me is how gullible these young people are. Any of you remember Jim Jones who got over 900 gullible people to drink poisoned cool aid?
Time is a flat circle
On point! 👌🏾
Violence or protest?
It's a protest till cops and "counter-protestors" pull up
Germany should consider increasing support to the US government
Most Americans do not support Israel anymore; it switched a few months ago.
😂😂😂😂 but the fact is Huge Majority is with Isreal...
International far-right groups attached to the GOP are fueling this. Why aren’t Americans protesting against the conservative Supreme Court judges supporting the Russian/China puppet running for office, Trump? There is so much to protest about that is urgent and they decided to protest this? I don’t buy it.
@@yte549 mmm is it tho? where do you get that idea from? The government is supporting and enabling Israel's course of action (which likely will be remembered as a genocide), the population is not.
Guess what most people are not posting on social media that’s the people with the real power who support Israel
Nah 🥱 ✡️🕎🔯👏💪👍😎
When vast majority of them don’t know difference between supporting Hamas or Palestine, you can’t call them peaceful protests. And those who chant the river line should be expelled.
U mean the line in Likud party's propoganda leaflets
U mean in Likud party saying only Israel between the river and sea
majority calling for end of committing war crime in the name of Zionism.
"you can’t call them peaceful protests" - it is peaceful if you treat it as so. The more violence employed against them, the more non-peaceful they will become.
"those who chant the river line should be expelled" - why? Chanting Zionism to take over of the entire region should not be expelled either.
Nothing to worry here, folks. Just some lone student wanted to skip classes and that's how it all spread on social media.
You don't have to be "anti-semitic" to be sickened and appalled by the slaughter of 15,000 children in Gaza. You just have to be a decent human being.
I don’t think Isreal is killing civilians on purpose. Doesn’t hamas use civilians as human shields ?
@@braddavid902 makes sense
Those children were alive on 6 October. Don’t forget that.
@@braddavid902 you are poorly informed on that, when they bomb areas that Israel themselves had designated as "safe zones" for the population then there is no more doubt.
@@lancecahill5486
There is no justification for this, remember that.
The problem with these professors is that they’re too busy in teaching theory in their classrooms and not understanding what the real world is outside of academia.
That 2nd professor is proved to us that he has buried himself in those books 📚 behind him.
I like to read to but come out and join us in the sunshine 🌞
You should try reading some books. I recommend history.
@@aaronrocs , I’ve already read 5 books for my job. I have enough to do already.
@@8StringKeithMy children had already read five books when they were six years old. Five books on Israel Palestine is the bare minimum in order to understand the basics.
Who attacked each othr,its pro Israel tht attacked the pro-palastine...stop the biased broadcast
lies
Do some research instead of accepting possession by an ideology.
The realization that there isn’t a clear good guy and bad guy will ease the tErRiBLe pain you feel from your privileged place in a peaceful society.
@@David-oy6ckIt's clear to see that the dangerous attack on the UCLA campus came from the pro Israel side.
Not pro Israeli but nationalistic Americans, they didn't had any slogans of Israeli nor any flag it's proof
biased broadcast?? you must live under 2km of hard rock since if you have seen at least one dw broadcast you would say they are 10x more pro palestinian than pro israel, but go in continue spreading misinformation spawned by your lack of research and intelligence
The naivety of this type of take by Americans is terrifying - when will these academics and guileless kids trouble to inform themselves properly?
Ever listen to the Oxford school debate 😂
What information they need Israel good those killed are animals?
Fantastic anchorman for terrible news, he makes them sound not as bad.
Who is this professor has zero experience in protest?! Tell students to act like politician!?? Get me a real activist on the show.
Civilians don’t die in other wars?
U.s blame other country who cause civilian deaths before, Russia, Thailand, south africa, even their own army been condemned during Iraq war. But why they keep silence this time? There are thousands of unarmed people there.
You need to find Jesus or something what i mean you really need help
Freedom of expression and rioting are two different things.
You say when the students weren't rioting in any way until their freedom of expression was trampled on.
When looking at how quick these protests escalated was cops were tearing down encampments when they were two tents and 5 signs, there was no chance to start slow if they wouldn’t let them start.
Hands off our students!
Shame on police
Los Angeles I expect but Dallas?
Many former politicians and businessmen were also students and are currently participating in politics. Students should also become famous politicians and businessmen and participate in politics to express their opinions. Protesting according to movements and making unreasonable demands only proves that the student protests are spontaneous and disorganized.
Those cops should be the ones in jail
I thought America was a democracy. Where did freedom of speech go
freedom has limits
Thats not absolute. That is actually the result of allowing pro hamas to get inside US spreading a lot of misinformation.
supplanted by election money donors, universities funding donors, wall street businesses, media control
The protesters don’t believe in free speech
The only speech they allow is their speech
Freedom of speech goes out the window when you start assaulting people or rioting. Have common sense.
Very balanced account from Prof. Cohen.
The violence inflicted by the government
I’m a proud NYU graduate. Thank you to that prof for speaking up.
I agree with the protests in spirit, but I also think it is counterproductive to interrupt their studies (and the studies of other students) on campus.
On campuses where the protesters weren't attacked by the police or a fascist mob (UCLA), no studies were interrupted.
There is a difference between peaceful protests and trespassing, breaking and entering, and vandalism.
How did you call the color revolution in HK back in 2019?
no, no there isnt. these are all peaceful means of protest
Whats your take on jan 6?
It's the police that's indulging in vandalism and brutality.
Ooh please DW! why is it so difficult to call it "protests against Israel genocidal campaign continues in America?"
Why not call it anti semetic or pro terrorist protests?
@@MChagall "We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians." - Nelson Mandela
@@MChagall Because the are not supporting Israel thats why.
… while being eyeballs deep in student loans
This student protest is American Spring....
When they want to Silence YOU There's Truth in your Claims 🤣
Those kids are the future. And just like in the past the institutions will fight change with all their might
Yep, instead of studying for finals and building their own country for a better future, they fight for a non existing country that would not grant them the same right if it ever be. Good luck with a new generation like that. Soft men create hard times and seem befitting
Enough with that trope. Soft men blah blah blah. 😑
@@franimal86 Whats the matter did the comment cut a little to close?
@@user_xsr
You have no moral conscious, and you’re ok with your tax dollars being used to subsidize war crimes and revenge killings in a far away conflict.
@@franimal86👈🏾 Looks like another soft man got triggered by the truth.
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Why does the Midwest not respond like the rest of the country? Conservatives tend to trust the US government when it comes to military action in the world. The rest of us are tired of endless wars that benefit the weapons manufacturers and their investors. I say that as a tax payer indirectly “investing” my taxes into war after war after war. I don’t see the benefit.
All I see is unlimited spending when it comes to the military, while the cost of living for the average American goes higher and higher.
It’s not just a Midwest vs coastal issue though. What I find fascinating is the distrust conservatives tend to have toward big government, but when it comes to the military, it’s the opposite.
cause many people in the Midwest serve in the military(or have family that serves) and it helps support their way of life. I think more people trust the military cause its done good by many people and help many people get out of poverty, get an education, and get future jobs outside the military. you can have distrust of big government but support the military, which protects you from outside threats.
That’s what I’m talking about. Why not directly invest in education, housing etc. to get out of poverty. Why the unending love for the military industrial complex?
How did any of this confuse you? Are you kid age?
@@franimal86that would be a conversation for you to talk about and research irl. The answer is there
@jasonfuchs4304 not sure what your point even is. Maybe you should look up how to be nice and contribute to a conversation
I appreciate the all students on not violence protest and I condemn the police actions also very disappointment from the nyc mayor and police commissioner for their statements and Columbia university President should resign
Support for the students!
NYC you are nuts....Chicago here....we got issues too
0:07 in the past, students were looking for justice built on truth. Today, students follow ideology and do not want to verify the given information.
Really? So, you are saying they are now not following truth, and what ideology they are following again?
@@mohammedshafi9124 yes, I am. The long standing manipulations by the so called Palestinians should not work any longer in time of easy access of valid information. What I have seen is that these - interviewed - students do have a clue - the trust something someone says - without verifying for themselves. IMO that alone disqualifies these students to be at any University.
@@mohammedshafi9124 shortly spoken - the ideology of being a victim - politically and socially.
movements throughout history were always driven by ideology. it's just that when the ideology aligns with your own, you perceive it as 'obvious truth' or 'natural order' but when it clashes with your ideology, you perceive it as 'ideology'.
In Mauritius , women are on leave for menstruation inconveniencies .
US should focus on this situation fully.Should deal with iron hand.This could be very devastating otherwise.
When Hamas dug tunnels underneath civilian buildings, hospitals, schools etc. and use civilians as human shields, what do people expect? The IDF warns civilians and asks them to evacuate from the battle zones and goes as far as calling civilians on their cell phones to let them know of the pending military operation. How many other armies in the world do that?
The tunnels were dug by Israel, not Hamas. You're being delusional
Lol even the Israeli prime minister admitted that his father built those tunnels when they occupied the place.
Evacuate to where. Israel has a blockade on Gaza, not letting any of the civilians out. Egypt closed their border too. Where do 2 million people in one of the world's most densely populated areas evacuate to when there is no where they can go?
Why did they strike the World Kitchen convoy?
It was all misunderstanding
Those you can not criticize rules the government.
The guest is completely incorrect. If the protesters were motivated by civilian deaths, they would have been out for many other conflicts and even now would be focused on conflict with more violent conflicts.
OK, lets look at another conflict. The USA is supporting Ukraine and not Russia. OK so why would you protest about that? There are protests about that as well, but much smaller, because few people disagree with how the USA handles it and few people feel the need to kick in open doors. Many people protested against the war in Iraq, not many the war in Afghanistan. The circumstances do matter, you are trying to deny it to spin some twisted narrative.
@@kurtilein3 Russia’s justification for war in Ukraine is functionally identical to Hamas’ justification for war in Israel. If these protesters gave a damn about just war theory, they would be supporting Israel.
They are protesting in the middle, while others indulge in whataboutery from the sidelines.
@@adamredwine774 Now you are trying to deny the civilian body count, but it matters.
The protests are about an American ally committing war crimes with American weapons, money and diplomatic support.
Protesters may not be pro-Palestine; Some just hate wars. We need to decide that we will not go to war, whatever reason is conjured up by the politicians or the media, because war in our time is always indiscriminate, a war against innocents, a war against children, as Howard Zinn said.
The US government needs to quickly and resolutely return international students to their home country if they protest do not comply with US law.
Why DW keep silencing my legitimate comments?
There was nothing offensive or against the rules for them to be deleted.
Where's the supposed democratic values of this channel that doesn't allow me to express my opinions on the subject?
FREEDOM TO ASSEMBLE PEACEFULLY IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT
on public property, not private property. nice try tho!
Unprecedented ....scuflle and clampdown
TikTok created this fiasco.
Vietnam had no October 7
Aaron Bushell - don't forget his name he was also a trigger hete professor. Also mention the difference of this specific generation - you are missing critical points first PROFESSOR. Second Professor 👍🏾
Thank you Professor Robert Cohen
Wow so many Hamas supporters :o
Administrators of schools need to be able to administrate and educate the students without invasions inside the campus. There is were the abuse begins; the school has to be impartial about the conflict and not to be forced to support any cause but to educate. Is not about the conflict or the right to protest, is about the abuse, dirtying, pooping, etc. inside private property and disturbing other students, the programs and normal activities INSIDE the school. So, whatever protests or demonstrations should be made in public areas and not private property.
so who are these donors and others who are pressuring administrators to crack down on the protests?
they who shall not be criticized
Children aren’t allowed to build cubby houses on private property
Did you have the same energy when it was china or any other country?
Imagine what would media say if it was in China.
This is not a spontaneous incident. There has been a lot of (semi)professional content production in social media for years, pushing a certain escalatory narrative on the Palestinian issue.
I still remember following the news on Hong Kong protests, going on for months and months, from protests to coordinated riots. Molotov cocktails, knives, bow and arrows.
I was asking why hadn't the cops done something yet?
Now I see the protests in the USA, the cops didn't wait.
Such a big difference, not just in the responses form the authority, but more so the responses from the media.
Really awakening when you can see direct comparisons. Thanks for making the difference apparent!
Lol. Mayor Adams proof of training were the stacked chairs to barricade doors. I wonder were us-pupils learn to barricade themselves into classrooms?
Who is controlling american media?
So USA goes around preaching others to allow protests but no protests are allowed in USA. Is Victoria Nuland not disturbing food 😂😂😂
Excuses, Excuses, what different that does make if they were not students joined students. this is police state.
Ukraine, Myanmar, and several conflicts in Africa are more or just as serious. This is escalated because it is in China and Russia’s best interest to promote on US media platforms.
USSR: One party proletarian dictatorship
USA: 2 parties plutocratic dictatorship.
Regrettably, this. The US had all the ressources, land and immigrative manpower... and what did it do with it? Create a republic that is as undemocratic as it is all-powerful (read as: not absolute, but pretty high on the respective scales).
USSR hasn't existed 35yrs.. what are you talking about?
RUclips won't give me videos recorded by regular people. Only news videos.
RUclips owns what you are allowed to see!!!!
We are all screwed. Welcome to the machine.