Heres the full meme stream: ruclips.net/video/w2fJFbGHv5M/видео.html Nogla and Terroriser react to being mentioned on a TommyInnit video: ruclips.net/video/ADXd2Z8YP6w/видео.html
aint no way theyre ever accepting him back, if mini messaged anyone else he probably would have been chewed out so badly he just deletes all social media
I wouldnt worry about that. Even without the pedophile shit, Craig and Brian are still on bad terms so theres no way he could come back to the group. Same goes for Ohm.
You can tell nogla is a little hurt inside it’s sad that their entire friendship ended because mini ladd committed a horrible crime like it’s honestly sad knowing your friend who you have known for a period of years would do something this stupid
To be fair, Mini's friendship with Nogla had long been strained, even before the allegations, since Terroriser, Nogla and Vanoss tended to be the most tight knit of the whole group, and when Mini ended up just dropping the three to go off on his own while badmouthing them, well, that's that. Everyone's so focused on the allegations they immediately think that's why when in truth, the issue was a more insidious one. Nogla may say some of the deets of that story was fabricated, but eh, if Mini was willing to actually send a nice text to at least end things on a cordial note, who am I to judge or try to act haughty and say he doesn't deserve it? Man fucked up, he's getting flak for it, that's natural. There's no such thing as *"being unable to move on"* or *"the only way he'll move on is by doing x thing or y thing"* If you're someone who says that... Try to get off RUclips and enjoy your life, man. It's not worth wasting it with hate messages or going into an echo chamber just to feel validated
@@Charle4217 Thank you for the last 2 paragraphs! Someone finally said it and I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that! It's really annoying how self righteous people can be cuz of one's mistakes/choices. We cannot be fixated on shit like this just because "justice wasn't served" according to what we want. Just move on. It's no use focusing on this anymore. What happened happened. We personally cant do anything about it. Move. On.
@@Charle4217 On top of that, Mini literally said the drama was "good" for him. That's not just a matter of completely lacking remorse or guilt, he's actually somehow twisting it into something positive for himself...
@@Gibby34340 The way I see it, Mini calling the drama "good" for him can easily be him acknowledging that it was the rude awakening he needed because he wasn't doing things right at all, and was too high off his horse to even notice. If I were in his shoes, I would say the same thing. Sure, there'd be the loss of credibility, but afterwards it'd just be a matter of living my life and doing things right.
He 100% is. Ive no doubt he probably would probably respond kindly to Craig saying, i hope the family is doing well etc. Despite everything they were once close friends. However i know Nogla would never defend Mini either. Personally i think Craig should have been deplatformed and erased from youtube never to return, but on a more personal side Nogla and Craig were once friends
really? he strikes me as a school yard bully who never grew up, and don't take me for a mini-nonce lover because I'm saying that on this particular video. in the old days, I thought of how wrong it was that the others clowned on him SO hard and it stopped me from watching, but now I realize it was because he just deserves it and ig respect for being able to take what you dish out. not a massive fan, at all, just genuine opinions on the dude as an outsider looking in. used to watch Vanoss as a kid in the old g'mod glory days. was reintroduced to him (and the rest) and only really know him from collabs in among us, and he seems to me to just be a pure duchebag, sucking the fun out from everyone else (cheating, being meta, attitude, ect ect). maybe I just don't get the inside "joke" of being a straight up asshole, idk... sure it pulls views but holy shit does he come off as needing to be knocked down a couple dozen pegs. I'm genuinely interested in your response and want to hear your side as a fan who's watched more of him because my very first (re?) impression of him was just of him cheating.
Nogla is a very nice person. He's a lot like Moo. You only see the rage and stupidity because that's what makes content lol. The whole crew are awesome people in real life.
@@grimerime23 He's DEFINITELY very competitive when playing games, but it's fun because he gets dubs and dunks in equal measure. When people are just hanging out with him he's a very sweet and genuine person it seems. That's all there is to it I feel.
Nogla always is the nicest person in the group, even after what happened to Craig (which I mean how does he still have a damn channel) he still wishes him luck
@@birdgod5584 He still posts videos and gets sponsored. And has 4 m subscribers as of me last seeing him. (Somewhere in September. ) so unfortunately, he's back to what he normally did.
Craig went from being my absolute favorite to just... I dont even wanna fucking talk about the good memories i have of him anymore because they all feel like a lie
Seriously though. I remember watching those Emily videos and laughing my ass off at him getting jump-scared after a long day at work. Like, his videos were among my most favorite that would help me unwind for the evening. Now, thinking back on that, I just feel gross (I'm not sure what other word to use here) that I actually supported a pr*dator. The same kind of person that preyed on me as a young kid and molested me for years, leaving some emotional damage I'm thankful I've accepted and gotten over. They don't change. There's a reason registered offenders have such a high re-offense rate, even with therapy. I just hope he's never trusted around kids or as a creator as a whole. Would be nice if his entire platform was taken down to prevent this from happening again, but it's good to know he's been exposed, even if there wasn't any actual justice done for the teens (one of them that recently came out was like 14 and he was around 20, that's hella illegal).
His Mario Kart rages were a highlight for me. It sucks knowing that my enjoyment of watching those videos felt like a huge waste of time looking back at it
Couldn’t have said it better. Before all of this, Mini was my favorite. His videos always cheered me up, and I was always laughing my ass off at them. I still hate knowing I supported a predator. Do I actually believe he has a second chance? Highly unlikely. It’s natural feelings to still miss it, even if it feels wrong.
Its somewhat strange for me, cause i loved craig, and to see this is just wrong. Its even weirder then that, despite knowing he deserved what he got, i wish to not see parodies mocking him for it. I just cant.
It's interesting to see how brian took what mini did as more of a betrayal and is much more angry at him, while nogla is just sad that his friend did something vile and fights to not be too accepting of forgiving
Yeah, it was respectful of Nogla to wait until Brian went AFK. Brian doesn't want to re-live any memories of that waste of a human being. Fuck Craig, man. Not literally though
@@sophiecory2703 Right, especially since Brian was at the front lines of it all (not on the bad side nor defending him, he was the one to call Craig out on manipulating people)
I don't think I'll ever watch Mini again despite his and Brian's past friendship being my favourite of the whole group, it's just... I can never ever look at him the same way again. No matter how much rehab he goes through, no matter how much he changes, no matter how much he apologizes, he still did it... And that's not something I can look past.
Mini used his power as a popular online content creator to get sexually explicit images and messages from fans that are still not fully matured. He should not have a platform and should not be on good terms with the crew after he threw them under the bus and did those things with his fans that were/are probably fans of the crew. Anyone wishing for him to come back really need to take a look at themselves
the thing with the crew doesnt mean anything. they would have made up eventually, its the fact he did what he did but not only that, never truly apologized and tried to continue like nothing happened. he blamed it on mental health. he acted like his life was so good after leaving his friends behind despite doing this. the fact he not only had inappropriate relations but was very exploitative and abusive even if the relationship wasnt wrong for simply existing and was above 18. the fact he did it with multiple people and likely has many unknown cases. the fact he used his fame/influence to create these inappropriate and abusive relationships. finally he wont even acknowledge what hes done and acts like his recent decisions like rebranding have nothing to do with this situation. i dont even think you can say he never meant to hurt anyone and it was genuienly because of mental health (which isnt an excuse anyway). he abused his infuence and trust and he should never have either again at the least.
@@Flog1077 They dont have to use their platform for anything. Its just that he went out of his way to do something bad. Also SJWs? Are you still stuck in 2016? Did you never stop being a woman hating 12 year old or something? We all had that phase, grow up.
I'm gonna say it now but *I genuinely do still miss the Miniladd of the bygone past,* moreso the one tbat enjoyed himself playing games with everyone else and just vibin on that good slice of Life. However, Craig as he is now is unfortunately someone I will never ever truly forgive, simply because he committed a crime so foul & soul-destroying alongside viciously destroying his llifelong friendships with Nogla & Terroriser that also culminated in everyone in the Vanoss Crew also cutting ties with him. So, to see my beloved Nogla responding to Craig with messages of good fortune to him & his family, *before brutally adding that he's taking their meme stream,* is the kind of energy I hope to aspire to have in life.
I can honestly agree here. MiniLadd before he did all of this shit was actually a role model of mine. He WAS my favorite and I basically watched literally every video and live stream of his for years. Once he did the unforgivable act, it was like a stab to the chest. If he just didn’t do that stupid thing he would be doing damn well but he fucked up and it’s a mistake there is no coming back from.
@@blitzrigen exactly bro. Even when he stopped playing with Vanoss & the guys for good or there was the controversy over how they split up in the first place, *I still somewhat loved Miniladd tbh.* No one is tethered for life to one group only and although I felt sad that Craig practically left the Vanoss Crew, I still felt he could make it on hid own...... *until Miniladd got too cozy with a mini ladd.* In the end, all foul things cone crawling out the dark Abyss of a person's inner thoughts and there's no retribution for such crimes too.
It reminds me of something a therapist told me when I was still remembering friends who were awful to me: "Do you really miss them, or do you miss the illusion? Once that evaporated, you didn't want to believe they did what they did."
I… One Nogla has fuckin balls of whatever they made the titanic out of, because the amount of times they’ve mentioned Craig just proves he leaves them swinging. But I genuinely can see the somewhat pained look in his face as he was talking about it. Him and Craig were close, both in terms of living areas as well as friendship, and for things to have ended the way they did most definitely affected Nogla more than anything. Him, Vanoss, and even Brock have to watch as their friend group diminished into what it is today, from the shit that Mini pulled, the allegations against Lui, and whatever the fuck is going on between Tyler and what’s his name. The group that started out big, slowly diminishing over time.
Even if we don't look at the crime he committed, the way he treated the group and tried to "move on" from them was just disrespectful. Wanting to break away from the group you've worked with for years to do your own thing is completely understandable. Trash talking them and not wanting to be associated with them anymore is another thing entirely.
@@mookmonstrr he left the US because “he missed home and wanted to see his family” in reality he began traveling around the US for a place to stay and many kept ousting him and he was close to going to court
If he returned which he did he still would have gone to court. I feel this accusation and him apologizing about it was a bit suspicious. She came out 2-3 years later when he won the e sports award? Sounds very suspicious.
The guy ran away to a different country to avoid the consequences of his actions. It's not like he accidentally did what he did, it was deliberate. His apologies were half assed and half hearted, why he still has a platform is beyond me. But good on Nogla for taking the high road, even if someone's a piece of shit doesn't mean you have to kick them for it.
@@buffalo_pig4011 It wasnt just talking to an underaged girl though, it wouldnt have stopped there. He used his position to get access to young girls. He was with someone like you said, an adult wasnt enough he had to follow his urges to go after young girls, its unforgivable and shouldnt be tolerated.
@@buffalo_pig4011 what does Carson have to do with anything lmao. This is the equivalent of a child getting in trouble then pointing to a kid and saying “but he did it”
@@dxov1597 and what Carson did wasn't illegal and he didn't run from it , he was 19 she was 17 that's completely legal in 43 states including where he currently resided I will be dead in the ground before I defend a pedophile but there is nothing wrong with what Carson did outside of perhaps abusing his power dynamic with fans which is an understandable mistake
I actually had a dream that Mini appeared in one of Evan's new videos. It was strange and I was so happy when I awoke and realized it was all a dream. But I couldn't help but check out the classic videos again and reminisce a bit.
Deadass had basically the same dream once about a few months back. It’s natural to miss the past; I miss him just as much, but he made a mistake in which it’s highly unlikely he can come back from. It hurts knowing he did something so stupid, considering how much I used to look up to him.
They were friends for a long time, so I understand why the guys wouldn't just cut him off full tilt. That being said, I'm glad they ain't trying to help him return
it frankly saddens me that he still has a channel at all. he used his channel as a way to commit a vile crime, showed minimal remorse for it, and yet still has the channel. it's disgusting in my opinion. not to mention how he deleted his apology videos, meaning any newer viewers could very well have zero idea what kind of person he is, leaving them open as more possible victims. it's genuinely gross in my opinion that he's just being permitted to use the same exact medium that he previously abused while he has shown that he's completely willing to hide his old actions. he's completely capable and willing to hide his past and try to avoid consequences as much as physically possible rather than ever take responsibility like a *good person*, and it's absolutely revolting.
I know that feeling. Like after a huge split you look back and wave at the other guy. There's no undoing whats been done, but you're still holding out hope that something good may come. That type of thing.
mini makes me laugh and his vr videos make me laugh the most. When I got my wisdom teeth removed in 2019, I watched the Mosh Pit Simulator game and I thought a tooth fell out (none did) when I wheezed from laughing so hard. 😂. Nogla is a nice guy and I'm genuinely proud of him for showing Mini some respect.
I'd have loved it if he just texted back "shut up pedo" and blocked him, but he was the bigger man and responded nicely, with the little "by the way, fuck you" of taking meme stream. I gotta respect the dedication to being 'nice' with a tinge of mad disrespect.
After all Mini has done, Nogla still be nice to him. I do miss the old days, old mini ladd. Wish everything could go back to the way it was. Good to see Nogla continuing his legacy by doing meme stream
I'll admit. I do miss the old days with miniladd before all the events happened. He was someone I genuinely looked up to. Whenever I had a rough day, watching his videos really cheered me up. I even was surprised on how successful he was (I mean, I don't think many youtubers could boast about having there name in a stadium). But after everything he did. Its hard to look back. He lost alot of things. What he accomplished, what he had. And most importantly. His respect from his fans. I wish i could go to a different mutiverse where this was never a outcome and he never committed the act. A world were the og crew is still together. But unfortunately. This is the world we live in. I can never look at miniladd's channel ever again. There is no amount of change that can remove his title of a pedophile.
@@N0N4ME06 He literally said he was. Hitting on girls underage and using his fame to get what he wanted. Then blame it on his mental health. He is one. And will forever be branded as one.
@@mystical6367 doesnt really matter if he starts working out, donating millions for cancer research, stop world hunger. He's still a fucking pedo honestly couldnt care less about his mental state after he did what he did. He's trash and trying to get pitty for what he did when he's the ONLY person wrong here, then goes on to blame it on stuff like his mental state, depression etc, pathetic
@@dud13 jeez you nogla Stan’s are so unforgiving and insensitive . How about instead of absolutely hating someone for something that was 6 years ago why don’t you focus on someone who actually hurt the group like Ohmwrecker. You nogla Stan’s never talk about ohm
There’s a reason why even if he gets his friends aggravated they still love playing games with him. He’s a great guy that takes a lot of heart to be able to do that
It nice to see there is still some form of respect between mini and the group, and seems that he’s okay with the group taking shots at him since he deserves them, but at the end of the day, it’s best he stays off RUclips, I do believe in second chances but the whole thing he did is something not worth having another chance
Nice, well kinda. That “I’m taking the meme stream” was Basically a fuck you to mini lol. Basically just being like “yeah, good luck in life. Also I’m taking this from you cuz fuck it, why not”
I have no sympathy for Craig. Like he literally made all his friends look bad just so he can be seen as the victim, apologized for pretty much being exposed, blamed it on "mental health," censored what he has said to not make him look already bad enough, and now has deleted the videos of him "apologizing" for being exposed. Ego centric manipulator is what I can say. I mean I liked mini before and kinda hated Brian at first, but then watched Brian's videos to understand him more and he explained why he does the things he does. Literally to make it funny. XD. And Craig tried to ruin his reputation even though Brian is a good guy who literally helped him along with everyone else. Can't forgive him man. Says he's changed. I highly doubt it after what he's been doing recently. And sadly kids don't see his full colors.
It's strange. Despite everything that has happened, the thought of Mini and Nogla being in contact makes me a bit happy. Perhaps it's just the old me who loved watching them play together.
Craig has a lot of growing up to do, emotionally and mentally, before he should be given that chance. He was a vindictive prick, the way he was trashing people he was supposedly friends with.
@@ozaru90 and he used his platform toget explicit with minors, he should be locked up, but I do miss the guy, can’t see myself watching him again, but I would like to watch older videos with him In it without feeling sick.
I’m glad Nogla is taking the nice approach. It’s understandable if people don’t ever want to talk to him again but it’s gotten kind of weird seeing people get really sadistic about this, like the fact so many people wanted Mini to go on the next stream when, if we could take a few seconds to think, we all know how awkward it would be if we had all three. Their best bits would be found in a sea of tension. Just seems so weird to see people fixated on him coming back but only to goof on him. I’d rather not even see him again.
It seriously sucks because I keep thinking about the Irish Roadtrip that he and Brian took and how much I loved that mini series. I will never watch his videos and it just sucks how much he left behind when he did what he did.
I was never pissed. Age of consent over here in England is 16. Is he an idiot? Sure, but do I still want him to start doing meme streams again? Hell yes. Also, I'm fully aware that he did do what he was accused of, seeing as he admitted it, but if it was really as bad as people are making it out to be, why hasn't he been arrested? Imprisoned? He's not exactly in hiding, it wouldn't be too dificult for the police to arrest him.
@@otamanvasyl9949 Або заарештували за це. Хіба для вас в Україні вік згоди теж не 16 років? І якщо ви не можете сказати, це робота Переклада Google. Я не сподіваюся, що він буде ідеальним, але, сподіваюся, він достатньо хороший, щоб ви його зрозуміли.
Despite all the events that happened with Mini Ladd I'm glad Nogla was nice to him and gave him good advice,I personally don't have a grudge on him despite the events but I can always be happy and glad that we still have good past memories when everyone was having fun and being cool,etc
I mean, he did a terrible thing, to put it mildly. But. If there's one thing I've learned in my life, it's that people can change. You can't share the skin of an unkilled bear, but if Craig wants to come back as a different person, then maybe I won't mind. All this drama shit doesn't lead to anything good
As much as I love the jokes at his expense, I’d absolutely DESPISE it if for whatever reason he slipped his way back in the group, and I already don’t really like the idea of having him on a memestream it’s just giving him a platform when he shouldn’t have one
There is a middle ground people tend to forget exists. "We can never be friends again, and I do not like you, but you will continue living and I hope thst goes okay for ya"
“It is what it is” feels like a very apt summary of things. Not saying that to throw any defense his way, of course. Just an apt wording. The mistake’s happened and it’s unredeemable, still, but it really is what it is now.
Look do i find if mini joining a meme stream vote funny: Yes Will he be accepted back: Not a chance mans a creep and should not be forgiven Im just glad to see nogla, terroriser, and everyone else move on to the point making jokes about it
Miniladd was lucky enough to not go to prison. As far as I'm concerned, he should've just been grateful for that. But then he comes back and pretends to be this changed person even though his content is the exact same and he tries to move forward instead of actually acknowledging his wrongdoings and trying to be better. He's not sorry. He is sorry he got caught.
From our perspective he’s one of the worst people on this site. But from Nogla and his other friends it’s different because of how close they used to be, makes sense he didn’t just hurl insults at him cause he used to be (and might still be) a friend
I genuinely hope the group, especially Brian and Panda, are able to heal and move forward. I know Brian and Nogla joke about it quite a bit now, and I'm glad they're able to do so, but it must have been pretty emotionally devastating for all of the crew, especially the people closer to Mini than others. Mini used to be my favorite and it's pretty hard now knowing everything he has done. I just hope the guys are doing alright. I feel so bad for them between Mini, Ohm, and all the drama and actual crimes that now surround the "Vanoss Crew" name. The rest of them deserve the best. It's still so hard to believe that Mini is back too :(
If Craig really wanted forgiveness, he would reupload all the videos he made in 2020 after he got exposed and admit that he is not the victim and that he hurt others. Maybe, just MAYBE I might consider forgiving him.
I hope Mini has changed, I wish him and his family well but at the same time I wish the victims well too. I wish Mini is sincere, I don’t think anyone is born evil, I think the devil tempted him and he took the bait. Nogla said it how it was, theirs nothing they can do now. Time heals all wounds but some wounds leave a scar. This one leaves a huge scar on top of more wounds that Mini dished out to his old friends. I hope everyone recovers, but thoughts and prayers especially out to all the ppl affected. 🙏🏻
Power is what caused it. Once a man holds onto power after being powerless for so long if can corrupt the mind. You start feeling like a king, a God among the people who praise you and look up to you. He had buildings named after him, he started the meme stream trend and he hosted live events where he got rewards and more. All of that can go to a persons head and the worst part is when that pride gets challenged. He left the group because he thought he could do better and was better on his own, he didn't want to be known as the side character or the Vanoss group. Once be broke them off he felt more pride and more power. Building his career and meeting fans that same pride can do a lot of things and once his girlfriends started breaking up that's the straw that broke him and when his fans were there for him? That's when he became who he was. The devil didn't trick him, he only corrupted himself and got a sin that is dangerous, pride. It is fixable and he can change as a person but with the internet? Once you fucked up, you fucked up. No matter how he changes he just won't be trusted anymore and his pride is forever ruined as everything crumbles around him and he is once again, back to his old self where he wasn't popular or famous and just a random person. If he doesn't get his channel up and change and try to keep on it, the world will just forget he once existed
It's very common for abusers to originate from being strained or lacking in some way. He simply let the fame get to his head and abused the power he was given. In all honesty he should be in prison. But since he dodged the case by moving state to state, he is actively RUNNING from his consequences. Not only that, him still making content for children also shows us that he doesn't understand exactly what he did was wrong. All he understands is that he was caught, therefore wrong. This is more akin to what you'd call a Monster. The way I see it, ppl keep saying to give him another chance, but he's already received another chance. up to 16 chances in counting. Each increasing number for the amount of time he denied the truth, the amount of time he tried to silence the victims, the amount of times he's groomed children, the amount of times he drops a fake apology, the amount of times he tries to revert to kid-friendly content knowing damn-well that he shouldn't even be online anymore, the amount of hardship he's probably faced the victim's families with including his own, etc. How many chances u wanna give someone until they've caused TOO much damage?
Honestly I was a fan of Craig and it honestly hurt to hear what he did And even tho he deserves it, it hurt to hear the crew make fun of him, I hope Craig gets better but I also hope he never joins the crew again
Feel the same way, he gets help and becomes a better person, but do not continue to make content ever again delete all socials and dissapear basically.
Tbf to Craig he deserved it. Not only with the “Pablo thing” but he mental abusing his ex and lying and trying to destroy his ex friends careers is not a good look at all.
Think about what he did though. He was not only an abuser to his girlfriend, but the dude was a pedo. And after he got caught he has the audacity to talk shit about the people that gave him his fame. He's a scumbag and he deserves everything coming his way.
I was a die hard Mini Ladd fan for YEARS. He was by far my favorite of that friend group. Felt like such a betrayal when he did what he did. Like... I actually burned my Mini Ladd merch. Nogla being the most wholesome and nice person of the group makes sense. Mini would have honestly not had anywhere near as good of a reaction from any of the others. Terrorizer hates the guy, Panda I'm sure feels the most betrayed, Vanoss will likely never acknowledge him publicly ever again, Marcel likely won't be seen with Craig again ever especially knowing what he does now and knowing he helped Craig set up and run Camp 17, Tyler... He'd likely just flame the fuck outta Craig cuz Tyler does not give a single shit, and Delirious just got over his bullshit with Ohm so there's no way he'd want to associate with Craig again. I'm honestly surprised Craig still has a channel or any internet presence. I mean... If Tobuscus could get essentially nuked for being an asshole and drug addict, Craig should have been worse.
Personally I can never forgive him. Maybe if he actually took some time off and actually tried to make an effort to better himself I'd forgive him, but he just pretended it never happened and didn't try to make the situation better. He should've done what the smash player zero did. He had some allegations against him so he went completely AWOL and actually SHOWED he was bettering himself. Im so glad to see zero back but miniladd can't be redeemed in my eyes now its far too late.
I feel like not many people on here have experienced an ego death. You would be surprised the amount of change a person can go through when you finally look at yourself and see the monster the world sees. Regardless of how terrible the mistake is, it is still possible to change.
People still spam his content with the same things, even threatening to kill him. Has anyone actually bothered to look up in detail what he did? Because in my opinion yeah he messed up but trying to kill him is a bit too far.
I absolutely hate Mini, but killing him or saying he should die ain’t the right move. What he needs to do is either turn himself in or actually leave the Internet, and he will be begging for forgiveness his whole life and I believe living with the fact that now your image is destroyed and that you’ll no longer have anyone is a fate worse than death.
I can never forgive him, I was the age of the girls he was doing things with at the time. He was one of my most favorite content creators and he went and did that. He ruined that year.
The fact that most of the memories i have watching Vanoss content for 4 year's now always have Craig in it, somehow hurts me in a personal level when he decides to turn into Pablo, i personally can't forgive him after the horrendous stuff he does.
In all honesty I hope Craig is doing better, I know he did shit that is unforgivable and down right disturbing. But I truly hope the man is doing better and getting the help he needs.
He tried to create a new channel but left as soon as he saw the negative response and lack of revenue. I doubt he’ll get better if he’s constantly wishing to have a platform again instead of accepting the consequences and leaving forever.
He is doing better, he took a time to work on himself and get therapy, he’s now continuing RUclips by himself and from what I can tell he just wants to put everything in the past, which I can honestly respect
That whole "I'm taking the meme stream" bit was hilarious. I hope Craig is well to, but I don't see him making a comeback anytime soon. Still, nice to hear Nogla talk nice about him for once.
Aye I love the edgy jokes they make and was glad they were joking about him more lately it’s funny, he fucked up, did some gross shit and is not separated, hopefully it stays that way
Thing is, there was a legitimate path to redemption for Craig. All he had to do was be honest, show some actual regret, and prove he was working to improve himself. Also, not stabbing your friends in the back so they can have yours when you’re down is helpful as well.
maybe he could have came back from the terroriser situation a few years back if he tried, but i dont think there is any path to redemption for him being outed as a pedo.
The community may never forgive Mini for his actions, I myself don't think hes in the clear, but I do hope he's doing well and getting the help he needs. He does seem to be doing better, so I hope he comes out of this a better man.
My gut says he is genuinely remorseful for the events that took place, and his actions, and that the rest of the gang do too, and they’re happy for him, but they acknowledge that they can never play with him or be associated with him publicly again, because 1. If they did they’d get cancelled for being friends openly with a groomer and 2. He’ll never be welcomed on the internet ever again.
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Heres the full meme stream:
ruclips.net/video/w2fJFbGHv5M/видео.html
Nogla and Terroriser react to being mentioned on a TommyInnit video:
ruclips.net/video/ADXd2Z8YP6w/видео.html
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I was scared when they first started making jokes about mini more frequently that mini would be more confident to slide into the group
I was scared when people were voting yes, for him to join a meme stream.
@@smokedaddy3d_ Terroriser said it best. They're a bunch of memers that just want to watch everything burn.
bro if you want mini back you're actually a fucking retard and probably a pedo yourself, what he did is absolutely unforgiveable on all levels
aint no way theyre ever accepting him back, if mini messaged anyone else he probably would have been chewed out so badly he just deletes all social media
I wouldnt worry about that. Even without the pedophile shit, Craig and Brian are still on bad terms so theres no way he could come back to the group. Same goes for Ohm.
“The man, the myth, the LADD” 😂😂
The guy who used to play with the Banana Bus squad
Or the Man, the Mental, the Ladd
"THE MUFFIN MAN!!!!!"...🤣
Better than saying "the legend"
*The PEDO*
You can tell nogla is a little hurt inside it’s sad that their entire friendship ended because mini ladd committed a horrible crime like it’s honestly sad knowing your friend who you have known for a period of years would do something this stupid
To be fair, Mini's friendship with Nogla had long been strained, even before the allegations, since Terroriser, Nogla and Vanoss tended to be the most tight knit of the whole group, and when Mini ended up just dropping the three to go off on his own while badmouthing them, well, that's that.
Everyone's so focused on the allegations they immediately think that's why when in truth, the issue was a more insidious one.
Nogla may say some of the deets of that story was fabricated, but eh, if Mini was willing to actually send a nice text to at least end things on a cordial note, who am I to judge or try to act haughty and say he doesn't deserve it?
Man fucked up, he's getting flak for it, that's natural. There's no such thing as *"being unable to move on"* or *"the only way he'll move on is by doing x thing or y thing"*
If you're someone who says that... Try to get off RUclips and enjoy your life, man. It's not worth wasting it with hate messages or going into an echo chamber just to feel validated
@@Charle4217 Thank you for the last 2 paragraphs! Someone finally said it and I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that!
It's really annoying how self righteous people can be cuz of one's mistakes/choices. We cannot be fixated on shit like this just because "justice wasn't served" according to what we want. Just move on.
It's no use focusing on this anymore. What happened happened. We personally cant do anything about it. Move. On.
@@Charle4217 On top of that, Mini literally said the drama was "good" for him. That's not just a matter of completely lacking remorse or guilt, he's actually somehow twisting it into something positive for himself...
@@Gibby34340 The way I see it, Mini calling the drama "good" for him can easily be him acknowledging that it was the rude awakening he needed because he wasn't doing things right at all, and was too high off his horse to even notice.
If I were in his shoes, I would say the same thing. Sure, there'd be the loss of credibility, but afterwards it'd just be a matter of living my life and doing things right.
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Can't wait for the 20 minute TJV video on this.
I hate TJV so much, dude milks the “drama” into pointless long videos
@@johnsoapmactavish9921 Yeah, the guy can be annoying sometimes.
Amazing comment
Oh yeah, can't wait till he milks this
You mean a 2-3 hour stream
Honestly, I feel like outside of his dumbassery in Among Us and Mario Party Nogla is just a genuinely really kind person.
He 100% is. Ive no doubt he probably would probably respond kindly to Craig saying, i hope the family is doing well etc. Despite everything they were once close friends. However i know Nogla would never defend Mini either. Personally i think Craig should have been deplatformed and erased from youtube never to return, but on a more personal side Nogla and Craig were once friends
really? he strikes me as a school yard bully who never grew up, and don't take me for a mini-nonce lover because I'm saying that on this particular video.
in the old days, I thought of how wrong it was that the others clowned on him SO hard and it stopped me from watching, but now I realize it was because he just deserves it and ig respect for being able to take what you dish out.
not a massive fan, at all, just genuine opinions on the dude as an outsider looking in. used to watch Vanoss as a kid in the old g'mod glory days. was reintroduced to him (and the rest) and only really know him from collabs in among us, and he seems to me to just be a pure duchebag, sucking the fun out from everyone else (cheating, being meta, attitude, ect ect).
maybe I just don't get the inside "joke" of being a straight up asshole, idk... sure it pulls views but holy shit does he come off as needing to be knocked down a couple dozen pegs.
I'm genuinely interested in your response and want to hear your side as a fan who's watched more of him because my very first (re?) impression of him was just of him cheating.
Nogla is a very nice person. He's a lot like Moo. You only see the rage and stupidity because that's what makes content lol. The whole crew are awesome people in real life.
@@grimerime23 He's DEFINITELY very competitive when playing games, but it's fun because he gets dubs and dunks in equal measure. When people are just hanging out with him he's a very sweet and genuine person it seems. That's all there is to it I feel.
@@RegalRoyalWasTaken fair enough, not the first time and definitely not gunna be the last time I just don't get something...
a little secret from me too, he also messaged me lmao
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I'm assuming it was an apology for what he did
@@scarletpumpernickel8260 nah, he’s probably playing the victim again
Probably just abusing his “mental health” issues and trying to flirt with ya. Be careful.
Was he trying to get back together?
Nogla always is the nicest person in the group, even after what happened to Craig (which I mean how does he still have a damn channel) he still wishes him luck
It’s the least he can say, but also that “p.s. I’m taking the meme stream” was also a fuck you to mini haha!
In okay with them keeping the channel, just as long as he isnt getting money or still uploading, I don't see the problem.
No he ain’t? Vanoss is the nicest
@@birdgod5584
He still posts videos and gets sponsored. And has 4 m subscribers as of me last seeing him. (Somewhere in September. ) so unfortunately, he's back to what he normally did.
Age of consent where he lives is 16
Craig went from being my absolute favorite to just... I dont even wanna fucking talk about the good memories i have of him anymore because they all feel like a lie
Seriously though. I remember watching those Emily videos and laughing my ass off at him getting jump-scared after a long day at work. Like, his videos were among my most favorite that would help me unwind for the evening. Now, thinking back on that, I just feel gross (I'm not sure what other word to use here) that I actually supported a pr*dator. The same kind of person that preyed on me as a young kid and molested me for years, leaving some emotional damage I'm thankful I've accepted and gotten over. They don't change. There's a reason registered offenders have such a high re-offense rate, even with therapy. I just hope he's never trusted around kids or as a creator as a whole. Would be nice if his entire platform was taken down to prevent this from happening again, but it's good to know he's been exposed, even if there wasn't any actual justice done for the teens (one of them that recently came out was like 14 and he was around 20, that's hella illegal).
His Mario Kart rages were a highlight for me. It sucks knowing that my enjoyment of watching those videos felt like a huge waste of time looking back at it
Couldn’t have said it better. Before all of this, Mini was my favorite. His videos always cheered me up, and I was always laughing my ass off at them. I still hate knowing I supported a predator. Do I actually believe he has a second chance? Highly unlikely. It’s natural feelings to still miss it, even if it feels wrong.
For real, I used to make time in my day for me and my boyfriend to watch after school
Its somewhat strange for me, cause i loved craig, and to see this is just wrong. Its even weirder then that, despite knowing he deserved what he got, i wish to not see parodies mocking him for it. I just cant.
It's interesting to see how brian took what mini did as more of a betrayal and is much more angry at him, while nogla is just sad that his friend did something vile and fights to not be too accepting of forgiving
I mean… mini Ladd tried to ruin terrorizers career by bad mouthing him and making up messed allegations. Search them up for information
@@paulallen2680 oh yeah i forgot that he also did that shit, goddamn mini really speedran the irredeemable human route any%, huh?
Two sides of the same true coin.
I think it was really nice for Nogla to wait until Brian went AFK to talk about Mini.
Yeah, it was respectful of Nogla to wait until Brian went AFK. Brian doesn't want to re-live any memories of that waste of a human being. Fuck Craig, man. Not literally though
@@sophiecory2703 Right, especially since Brian was at the front lines of it all (not on the bad side nor defending him, he was the one to call Craig out on manipulating people)
I don't think I'll ever watch Mini again despite his and Brian's past friendship being my favourite of the whole group, it's just... I can never ever look at him the same way again.
No matter how much rehab he goes through, no matter how much he changes, no matter how much he apologizes, he still did it... And that's not something I can look past.
Rehab? You mean therapy. He's a monster not a drug addict.
@@jazzy4039 rehab is for the mentally ill too you know?
Like he will ever apologize. Dude even said how the drama was “good for him” 💀
People like that don't change, never really, in their twisted ass heads they'll still be that monster they were when they did what they did.
@@grellsutcliffe8265 using a default name with a anime pfp?
thickening with a hint of twitter
Mini used his power as a popular online content creator to get sexually explicit images and messages from fans that are still not fully matured.
He should not have a platform and should not be on good terms with the crew after he threw them under the bus and did those things with his fans that were/are probably fans of the crew. Anyone wishing for him to come back really need to take a look at themselves
the thing with the crew doesnt mean anything. they would have made up eventually, its the fact he did what he did but not only that, never truly apologized and tried to continue like nothing happened. he blamed it on mental health. he acted like his life was so good after leaving his friends behind despite doing this. the fact he not only had inappropriate relations but was very exploitative and abusive even if the relationship wasnt wrong for simply existing and was above 18. the fact he did it with multiple people and likely has many unknown cases. the fact he used his fame/influence to create these inappropriate and abusive relationships. finally he wont even acknowledge what hes done and acts like his recent decisions like rebranding have nothing to do with this situation.
i dont even think you can say he never meant to hurt anyone and it was genuienly because of mental health (which isnt an excuse anyway). he abused his infuence and trust and he should never have either again at the least.
Everyone(SJW’s) thinks influencers should be using their power and influence for their political agenda.
@@Flog1077 They dont have to use their platform for anything. Its just that he went out of his way to do something bad. Also SJWs? Are you still stuck in 2016? Did you never stop being a woman hating 12 year old or something? We all had that phase, grow up.
I agree but that's why he's still never gonna play with them again
I just miss the old mini Ladd
I'm gonna say it now but *I genuinely do still miss the Miniladd of the bygone past,* moreso the one tbat enjoyed himself playing games with everyone else and just vibin on that good slice of Life.
However, Craig as he is now is unfortunately someone I will never ever truly forgive, simply because he committed a crime so foul & soul-destroying alongside viciously destroying his llifelong friendships with Nogla & Terroriser that also culminated in everyone in the Vanoss Crew also cutting ties with him.
So, to see my beloved Nogla responding to Craig with messages of good fortune to him & his family, *before brutally adding that he's taking their meme stream,* is the kind of energy I hope to aspire to have in life.
Nogla just gives off chad energy when it comes to Mini lmaoo
@@whimsy5340 Nogla of all things, too
I can honestly agree here. MiniLadd before he did all of this shit was actually a role model of mine. He WAS my favorite and I basically watched literally every video and live stream of his for years. Once he did the unforgivable act, it was like a stab to the chest. If he just didn’t do that stupid thing he would be doing damn well but he fucked up and it’s a mistake there is no coming back from.
@@blitzrigen exactly bro. Even when he stopped playing with Vanoss & the guys for good or there was the controversy over how they split up in the first place, *I still somewhat loved Miniladd tbh.*
No one is tethered for life to one group only and although I felt sad that Craig practically left the Vanoss Crew, I still felt he could make it on hid own...... *until Miniladd got too cozy with a mini ladd.*
In the end, all foul things cone crawling out the dark Abyss of a person's inner thoughts and there's no retribution for such crimes too.
It reminds me of something a therapist told me when I was still remembering friends who were awful to me: "Do you really miss them, or do you miss the illusion? Once that evaporated, you didn't want to believe they did what they did."
Nogla being a savage
Mini messaging Nogla after finding out he has a daughter
Oh my god
FUCKING CHRIST
I… One Nogla has fuckin balls of whatever they made the titanic out of, because the amount of times they’ve mentioned Craig just proves he leaves them swinging. But I genuinely can see the somewhat pained look in his face as he was talking about it. Him and Craig were close, both in terms of living areas as well as friendship, and for things to have ended the way they did most definitely affected Nogla more than anything. Him, Vanoss, and even Brock have to watch as their friend group diminished into what it is today, from the shit that Mini pulled, the allegations against Lui, and whatever the fuck is going on between Tyler and what’s his name. The group that started out big, slowly diminishing over time.
I love how terroriser avoids the minilad situation and everything that went on like thats the one area of things he tries to avoid
He got hurt by a lot of Craig’s shenanigans before allegations came to light; honestly Terroriser got hurt the most. Y’know, outside of the victim’s
Man the amount of people making excuses for minis behavior really showing how ass backwards this world is
It’s at least somewhat good to know that the guy is messaging some people who are above the age of consent
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"PS: I'm taking the meme stream" that goes hard... coldblooded.
I don't understand the meme stream part. What does that mean?
@@piscessoedroen mini Ladd did it first
This type of content was something Mini Ladd did first @@piscessoedroen
0:28 Hey thats me!
Congrats on making it into the vid
Even if we don't look at the crime he committed, the way he treated the group and tried to "move on" from them was just disrespectful.
Wanting to break away from the group you've worked with for years to do your own thing is completely understandable.
Trash talking them and not wanting to be associated with them anymore is another thing entirely.
It’s a miracle Craig escaped the country before going to jail
He left the US?
@@mookmonstrr yeah if he didn’t he would have to go to court
@@mookmonstrr he left the US because “he missed home and wanted to see his family” in reality he began traveling around the US for a place to stay and many kept ousting him and he was close to going to court
If he returned which he did he still would have gone to court. I feel this accusation and him apologizing about it was a bit suspicious. She came out 2-3 years later when he won the e sports award? Sounds very suspicious.
@@hardym9532 I thought he was still in Texas.
This is definitely one of those things you just can’t forgive somebody for.
respect to nogls for still bein nice, even after mini tried to trash the weenie boy name
The guy ran away to a different country to avoid the consequences of his actions. It's not like he accidentally did what he did, it was deliberate. His apologies were half assed and half hearted, why he still has a platform is beyond me.
But good on Nogla for taking the high road, even if someone's a piece of shit doesn't mean you have to kick them for it.
i’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have faced anything if he had stayed in the country, plus he returned shortly after.
@@buffalo_pig4011 It wasnt just talking to an underaged girl though, it wouldnt have stopped there. He used his position to get access to young girls. He was with someone like you said, an adult wasnt enough he had to follow his urges to go after young girls, its unforgivable and shouldnt be tolerated.
@@buffalo_pig4011 what does Carson have to do with anything lmao. This is the equivalent of a child getting in trouble then pointing to a kid and saying “but he did it”
@@dxov1597 and what Carson did wasn't illegal and he didn't run from it , he was 19 she was 17 that's completely legal in 43 states including where he currently resided
I will be dead in the ground before I defend a pedophile but there is nothing wrong with what Carson did outside of perhaps abusing his power dynamic with fans which is an understandable mistake
@@codylucynki1279 you may be right about that. Carson is definitely no where near as bad as people like edp or mini Ladd
I actually had a dream that Mini appeared in one of Evan's new videos. It was strange and I was so happy when I awoke and realized it was all a dream. But I couldn't help but check out the classic videos again and reminisce a bit.
Same
Deadass had basically the same dream once about a few months back. It’s natural to miss the past; I miss him just as much, but he made a mistake in which it’s highly unlikely he can come back from. It hurts knowing he did something so stupid, considering how much I used to look up to him.
They were friends for a long time, so I understand why the guys wouldn't just cut him off full tilt. That being said, I'm glad they ain't trying to help him return
This is the perfect way to handle that situation. Nogla is a geniune guy.
I can't believe Mini had the balls to continue YT honestly
At this point, he hasn't posted in two months.
I mean, he's been gone for almost 3 months
It’s because his fanbase is too young to understand fully about who he is.
it frankly saddens me that he still has a channel at all.
he used his channel as a way to commit a vile crime, showed minimal remorse for it, and yet still has the channel. it's disgusting in my opinion.
not to mention how he deleted his apology videos, meaning any newer viewers could very well have zero idea what kind of person he is, leaving them open as more possible victims. it's genuinely gross in my opinion that he's just being permitted to use the same exact medium that he previously abused while he has shown that he's completely willing to hide his old actions.
he's completely capable and willing to hide his past and try to avoid consequences as much as physically possible rather than ever take responsibility like a *good person*, and it's absolutely revolting.
Check still gotta pay bills
Mini Ladd told Nogla “I will never remain a memory”
Nogla: _“So that’s why I’m turning you into a meme instead.”_
*Estuans interius*
*Ira vehementi*
*Estuans interius*
*Ira vehementi*
*MINILADD*
_dun dun dunn_
*MINILADD*
_dun dun dunn_
I know that feeling. Like after a huge split you look back and wave at the other guy. There's no undoing whats been done, but you're still holding out hope that something good may come. That type of thing.
After all these years without knowing what Nogla looked like, this is exactly what I pictured
nogla's had his face public for YEARSSS bru
I have a lot of respect for Nogla to message Mini Ladd back. A lot of us wouldn’t after what Craig did, so Nogla deserves hella respect for that.
mini makes me laugh and his vr videos make me laugh the most.
When I got my wisdom teeth removed in 2019, I watched the Mosh Pit Simulator game and I thought a tooth fell out (none did) when I wheezed from laughing so hard. 😂.
Nogla is a nice guy and I'm genuinely proud of him for showing Mini some respect.
I'd have loved it if he just texted back "shut up pedo" and blocked him, but he was the bigger man and responded nicely, with the little "by the way, fuck you" of taking meme stream. I gotta respect the dedication to being 'nice' with a tinge of mad disrespect.
mini be like "cant have shit in detroit"
After all Mini has done, Nogla still be nice to him. I do miss the old days, old mini ladd. Wish everything could go back to the way it was. Good to see Nogla continuing his legacy by doing meme stream
I'll admit.
I do miss the old days with miniladd before all the events happened.
He was someone I genuinely looked up to. Whenever I had a rough day, watching his videos really cheered me up.
I even was surprised on how successful he was (I mean, I don't think many youtubers could boast about having there name in a stadium). But after everything he did.
Its hard to look back. He lost alot of things. What he accomplished, what he had. And most importantly. His respect from his fans.
I wish i could go to a different mutiverse where this was never a outcome and he never committed the act.
A world were the og crew is still together.
But unfortunately. This is the world we live in.
I can never look at miniladd's channel ever again.
There is no amount of change that can remove his title of a pedophile.
He's not uploaded anything in 2 months and he's basically turned into a reaction channel
As far as i know he is not a pedophile.
@@N0N4ME06
He literally said he was. Hitting on girls underage and using his fame to get what he wanted. Then blame it on his mental health.
He is one. And will forever be branded as one.
Sad 😢
I personally can’t take Craig seriously, I use to love watching him, but I honestly hope he has a healthy life and gets the help he needs.
Oh he did you should check up on him man looks physically and mentally great then he did before
@@mystical6367 and he's still a pedo
@@dud13 ok? He is physically and mentally better then he was in 2020
@@mystical6367 doesnt really matter if he starts working out, donating millions for cancer research, stop world hunger. He's still a fucking pedo honestly couldnt care less about his mental state after he did what he did. He's trash and trying to get pitty for what he did when he's the ONLY person wrong here, then goes on to blame it on stuff like his mental state, depression etc, pathetic
@@dud13 jeez you nogla Stan’s are so unforgiving and insensitive . How about instead of absolutely hating someone for something that was 6 years ago why don’t you focus on someone who actually hurt the group like Ohmwrecker. You nogla Stan’s never talk about ohm
then straight to watching ducks... love it
Nogla's like the opposite of Ohm, instead of burning bridges he just wants to avoid needless drama and go separate ways.
There’s a reason why even if he gets his friends aggravated they still love playing games with him. He’s a great guy that takes a lot of heart to be able to do that
Hit ‘em with the “hey big head”
It nice to see there is still some form of respect between mini and the group, and seems that he’s okay with the group taking shots at him since he deserves them, but at the end of the day, it’s best he stays off RUclips, I do believe in second chances but the whole thing he did is something not worth having another chance
Um.....well, he NEEDS to stay off RUclips, but with two alive channels, he's not gone........
Nice, well kinda. That “I’m taking the meme stream” was Basically a fuck you to mini lol. Basically just being like “yeah, good luck in life. Also I’m taking this from you cuz fuck it, why not”
@@JeezAlax three channels, and I think he might have a few more inactive channels?
Respect? Sounds more like pity.
I don't think there's any respect to him after what he did. Especially with Nogla being a father now.
Backhanded empathy
The way he strokes his beard is mesmerizing.
I have no sympathy for Craig. Like he literally made all his friends look bad just so he can be seen as the victim, apologized for pretty much being exposed, blamed it on "mental health," censored what he has said to not make him look already bad enough, and now has deleted the videos of him "apologizing" for being exposed.
Ego centric manipulator is what I can say. I mean I liked mini before and kinda hated Brian at first, but then watched Brian's videos to understand him more and he explained why he does the things he does. Literally to make it funny. XD. And Craig tried to ruin his reputation even though Brian is a good guy who literally helped him along with everyone else.
Can't forgive him man. Says he's changed. I highly doubt it after what he's been doing recently. And sadly kids don't see his full colors.
What did he do recently?
@@birdgod5584 pretty much came back to youtube and acted like nothing happened. Deleted his old videos about apologizing for what he did.
It's strange. Despite everything that has happened, the thought of Mini and Nogla being in contact makes me a bit happy. Perhaps it's just the old me who loved watching them play together.
Same bro, watching this makes me somewhat happy inside
It's bittersweet isn't it?
Craig has a lot of growing up to do, emotionally and mentally, before he should be given that chance. He was a vindictive prick, the way he was trashing people he was supposedly friends with.
@@ozaru90 and he used his platform toget explicit with minors, he should be locked up, but I do miss the guy, can’t see myself watching him again, but I would like to watch older videos with him In it without feeling sick.
Still think Craig got off way too easy.
I did not listen to a single word said, I was too busy watching the beard stroking
I’m glad Nogla is taking the nice approach. It’s understandable if people don’t ever want to talk to him again but it’s gotten kind of weird seeing people get really sadistic about this, like the fact so many people wanted Mini to go on the next stream when, if we could take a few seconds to think, we all know how awkward it would be if we had all three. Their best bits would be found in a sea of tension. Just seems so weird to see people fixated on him coming back but only to goof on him. I’d rather not even see him again.
Nogla still being nice despite Craig's infamous act
Like a good Christian Irish boy
He's even nice to Ohm after everything, he's definitely the nicest one out of all of them
@@matthewking6633 oh yeah, not even a competition. Plus, Nogla has never been one to put someone down, no matter the circumstances.
Same vibes as an ex trying to message you after you broke up for 2years
It seriously sucks because I keep thinking about the Irish Roadtrip that he and Brian took and how much I loved that mini series. I will never watch his videos and it just sucks how much he left behind when he did what he did.
Its sickening the amount of people that just forgave craig. His channel should be deleted.
I was never pissed. Age of consent over here in England is 16. Is he an idiot? Sure, but do I still want him to start doing meme streams again? Hell yes. Also, I'm fully aware that he did do what he was accused of, seeing as he admitted it, but if it was really as bad as people are making it out to be, why hasn't he been arrested? Imprisoned? He's not exactly in hiding, it wouldn't be too dificult for the police to arrest him.
Я вважаю, що це не було настільки жахливим, щоб його погнали з Ютубу.
@@otamanvasyl9949 Або заарештували за це. Хіба для вас в Україні вік згоди теж не 16 років? І якщо ви не можете сказати, це робота Переклада Google. Я не сподіваюся, що він буде ідеальним, але, сподіваюся, він достатньо хороший, щоб ви його зрозуміли.
@@otamanvasyl9949 im sorry?
@@Klekowksii you're part of the problem. He is a manipulative pedophile piece of trash.
I'm just hoping the top 3 irish youtubers remains as sweet and awesome as they appear to be, is all.
For anyone wondering, yea. The duck does get hit with the pan. It makes a funny noise
The fact that Mini Ladd still has a platform after what he did is the saddest thing of all
It’s cause he gets away with things all the time which seems so UNNATURAL(some people will get that).
Despite all the events that happened with Mini Ladd I'm glad Nogla was nice to him and gave him good advice,I personally don't have a grudge on him despite the events but I can always be happy and glad that we still have good past memories when everyone was having fun and being cool,etc
I mean, he did a terrible thing, to put it mildly. But. If there's one thing I've learned in my life, it's that people can change. You can't share the skin of an unkilled bear, but if Craig wants to come back as a different person, then maybe I won't mind. All this drama shit doesn't lead to anything good
Nah craig was talking shit about the group long aftet that. He's a scum at heart
I've seen worse cases
@@user-qx8kf3st8t obviously but this is a dude who had millions of kids looking up to him and he took advantage of them. He's an acually pedophile
Maybe he can change, but that will not invalidate anyone who judges him for his past actions.
@@FoTwentyVlogs I have seen seriel killers get redeemed so people can change if you put the effort into it
As much as I love the jokes at his expense, I’d absolutely DESPISE it if for whatever reason he slipped his way back in the group, and I already don’t really like the idea of having him on a memestream it’s just giving him a platform when he shouldn’t have one
I love how he keeps stroking his beard lmao.
Ive been a fan of Nogla for a long time - more than 4 years and this is the first time im seeing what he looks like lmao
This do be a bruh moment
Came back here after watching TJV's video
There is a middle ground people tend to forget exists.
"We can never be friends again, and I do not like you, but you will continue living and I hope thst goes okay for ya"
“It is what it is” feels like a very apt summary of things. Not saying that to throw any defense his way, of course. Just an apt wording.
The mistake’s happened and it’s unredeemable, still, but it really is what it is now.
Look do i find if mini joining a meme stream vote funny: Yes
Will he be accepted back: Not a chance mans a creep and should not be forgiven
Im just glad to see nogla, terroriser, and everyone else move on to the point making jokes about it
Just wish the fans would move on now.
@@crazyadam9281 kids don't understand, you could kill their parents and make an apology video and they'd accept it
@@crazyadam9281 they won't, people want to keep milking the situation for Internet points.
Honestly at this point they should just stop talking about him and let him wither away after what he did.
Maybe eventually but i still find the kiddy diddlin jokes at his expense pretty fuckin funny
no. more slander
nah, not talking about him is letting him get away with it scot free.
@@ShiftyWolf117 no it’s actually giving him a constant platform while being a fucking sexual predator.
@@ShiftyWolf117 i mean one google search is enough to know who he was
keemstar: also in the news, mineladder texted a vaniss crew member, nawgla!
Noticing all the signs where there later on is kinda crazy.
Miniladd was lucky enough to not go to prison. As far as I'm concerned, he should've just been grateful for that. But then he comes back and pretends to be this changed person even though his content is the exact same and he tries to move forward instead of actually acknowledging his wrongdoings and trying to be better. He's not sorry. He is sorry he got caught.
From our perspective he’s one of the worst people on this site. But from Nogla and his other friends it’s different because of how close they used to be, makes sense he didn’t just hurl insults at him cause he used to be (and might still be) a friend
I genuinely hope the group, especially Brian and Panda, are able to heal and move forward. I know Brian and Nogla joke about it quite a bit now, and I'm glad they're able to do so, but it must have been pretty emotionally devastating for all of the crew, especially the people closer to Mini than others. Mini used to be my favorite and it's pretty hard now knowing everything he has done. I just hope the guys are doing alright. I feel so bad for them between Mini, Ohm, and all the drama and actual crimes that now surround the "Vanoss Crew" name. The rest of them deserve the best. It's still so hard to believe that Mini is back too :(
If Craig really wanted forgiveness, he would reupload all the videos he made in 2020 after he got exposed and admit that he is not the victim and that he hurt others. Maybe, just MAYBE I might consider forgiving him.
Nogla is the nicest man I’ve ever seen, especially after what Mini has done
Sucks that he’ll probably never get back with the group. Hopefully he has improved
I hope Mini has changed, I wish him and his family well but at the same time I wish the victims well too. I wish Mini is sincere, I don’t think anyone is born evil, I think the devil tempted him and he took the bait. Nogla said it how it was, theirs nothing they can do now. Time heals all wounds but some wounds leave a scar. This one leaves a huge scar on top of more wounds that Mini dished out to his old friends. I hope everyone recovers, but thoughts and prayers especially out to all the ppl affected. 🙏🏻
Power is what caused it. Once a man holds onto power after being powerless for so long if can corrupt the mind. You start feeling like a king, a God among the people who praise you and look up to you. He had buildings named after him, he started the meme stream trend and he hosted live events where he got rewards and more. All of that can go to a persons head and the worst part is when that pride gets challenged. He left the group because he thought he could do better and was better on his own, he didn't want to be known as the side character or the Vanoss group. Once be broke them off he felt more pride and more power. Building his career and meeting fans that same pride can do a lot of things and once his girlfriends started breaking up that's the straw that broke him and when his fans were there for him? That's when he became who he was. The devil didn't trick him, he only corrupted himself and got a sin that is dangerous, pride. It is fixable and he can change as a person but with the internet? Once you fucked up, you fucked up. No matter how he changes he just won't be trusted anymore and his pride is forever ruined as everything crumbles around him and he is once again, back to his old self where he wasn't popular or famous and just a random person. If he doesn't get his channel up and change and try to keep on it, the world will just forget he once existed
@@LushMint interesting perspective, I don’t necessarily disagree, but I have a different take on it.
@@RadicalCT to each their own
No one tempted him. He just decided age didn’t matter. Idiot
It's very common for abusers to originate from being strained or lacking in some way. He simply let the fame get to his head and abused the power he was given. In all honesty he should be in prison. But since he dodged the case by moving state to state, he is actively RUNNING from his consequences. Not only that, him still making content for children also shows us that he doesn't understand exactly what he did was wrong. All he understands is that he was caught, therefore wrong. This is more akin to what you'd call a Monster. The way I see it, ppl keep saying to give him another chance, but he's already received another chance. up to 16 chances in counting. Each increasing number for the amount of time he denied the truth, the amount of time he tried to silence the victims, the amount of times he's groomed children, the amount of times he drops a fake apology, the amount of times he tries to revert to kid-friendly content knowing damn-well that he shouldn't even be online anymore, the amount of hardship he's probably faced the victim's families with including his own, etc. How many chances u wanna give someone until they've caused TOO much damage?
0:11 I’m sure those minors though the same thing 😭😂
The really funny thing is that I left as soon as Brian, so I came back as soon as he did and I was like wait what happened when I saw the chat😂
bit wholesome but still it is what it is
Honestly I was a fan of Craig and it honestly hurt to hear what he did
And even tho he deserves it, it hurt to hear the crew make fun of him, I hope Craig gets better but I also hope he never joins the crew again
Feel the same way, he gets help and becomes a better person, but do not continue to make content ever again delete all socials and dissapear basically.
If he does this he most definitely would go on the internet again under a different name but I hope he doesn't make content just browse
Tbf to Craig he deserved it. Not only with the “Pablo thing” but he mental abusing his ex and lying and trying to destroy his ex friends careers is not a good look at all.
Think about what he did though. He was not only an abuser to his girlfriend, but the dude was a pedo. And after he got caught he has the audacity to talk shit about the people that gave him his fame. He's a scumbag and he deserves everything coming his way.
noglas honestly a real one
I was a die hard Mini Ladd fan for YEARS. He was by far my favorite of that friend group. Felt like such a betrayal when he did what he did. Like... I actually burned my Mini Ladd merch.
Nogla being the most wholesome and nice person of the group makes sense. Mini would have honestly not had anywhere near as good of a reaction from any of the others. Terrorizer hates the guy, Panda I'm sure feels the most betrayed, Vanoss will likely never acknowledge him publicly ever again, Marcel likely won't be seen with Craig again ever especially knowing what he does now and knowing he helped Craig set up and run Camp 17, Tyler... He'd likely just flame the fuck outta Craig cuz Tyler does not give a single shit, and Delirious just got over his bullshit with Ohm so there's no way he'd want to associate with Craig again.
I'm honestly surprised Craig still has a channel or any internet presence. I mean... If Tobuscus could get essentially nuked for being an asshole and drug addict, Craig should have been worse.
What's the summary of Delirious and Ohm? I haven't seen much of D since the Among Us/Baby D days last year or so, so I'm not caught up on anything
Vanoss throws a good amount of shade at him, to be fair.
Personally I can never forgive him. Maybe if he actually took some time off and actually tried to make an effort to better himself I'd forgive him, but he just pretended it never happened and didn't try to make the situation better.
He should've done what the smash player zero did. He had some allegations against him so he went completely AWOL and actually SHOWED he was bettering himself. Im so glad to see zero back but miniladd can't be redeemed in my eyes now its far too late.
I feel like not many people on here have experienced an ego death. You would be surprised the amount of change a person can go through when you finally look at yourself and see the monster the world sees. Regardless of how terrible the mistake is, it is still possible to change.
"The Ladd" took me out 😭
People still spam his content with the same things, even threatening to kill him.
Has anyone actually bothered to look up in detail what he did? Because in my opinion yeah he messed up but trying to kill him is a bit too far.
It’s the internet. You can make a small harmless joke and you’ll end up with death threats
Nah bro. Everyone who comments those kind of things knows exactly what he did. If I hated him enough I might do the same.
@CapnKeyes not sure if I made it clear but I was just talking about comments. I don't think anyone would actually attempt those things irl.
I absolutely hate Mini, but killing him or saying he should die ain’t the right move. What he needs to do is either turn himself in or actually leave the Internet, and he will be begging for forgiveness his whole life and I believe living with the fact that now your image is destroyed and that you’ll no longer have anyone is a fate worse than death.
I can never forgive him, I was the age of the girls he was doing things with at the time. He was one of my most favorite content creators and he went and did that. He ruined that year.
The fact that most of the memories i have watching Vanoss content for 4 year's now always have Craig in it, somehow hurts me in a personal level when he decides to turn into Pablo, i personally can't forgive him after the horrendous stuff he does.
I have a feeling they will play with Mini somewhere 2023. I bet you my channel he will. My senses are never wrong.
God I hope not
Never speak to predators.
In all honesty I hope Craig is doing better, I know he did shit that is unforgivable and down right disturbing. But I truly hope the man is doing better and getting the help he needs.
He tried to create a new channel but left as soon as he saw the negative response and lack of revenue. I doubt he’ll get better if he’s constantly wishing to have a platform again instead of accepting the consequences and leaving forever.
@@scourge8143 took the words right out of my mouth
He is doing better, he took a time to work on himself and get therapy, he’s now continuing RUclips by himself and from what I can tell he just wants to put everything in the past, which I can honestly respect
I really hope that he wasn't joking when he said PS I'm taking the memestream cuz that would be just so f****** hilarious
That whole "I'm taking the meme stream" bit was hilarious. I hope Craig is well to, but I don't see him making a comeback anytime soon. Still, nice to hear Nogla talk nice about him for once.
I hope he's well, too, and by that I mean I hope he's at least 50 meters from the nearest child at all times.
Pablo out here trying to get on everyone's good side
Aye I love the edgy jokes they make and was glad they were joking about him more lately it’s funny, he fucked up, did some gross shit and is not separated, hopefully it stays that way
Not Nice Person He’s A Bad Guy
Thing is, there was a legitimate path to redemption for Craig. All he had to do was be honest, show some actual regret, and prove he was working to improve himself.
Also, not stabbing your friends in the back so they can have yours when you’re down is helpful as well.
maybe he could have came back from the terroriser situation a few years back if he tried, but i dont think there is any path to redemption for him being outed as a pedo.
Nogla seems really nice
The community may never forgive Mini for his actions, I myself don't think hes in the clear, but I do hope he's doing well and getting the help he needs.
He does seem to be doing better, so I hope he comes out of this a better man.
My gut says he is genuinely remorseful for the events that took place, and his actions, and that the rest of the gang do too, and they’re happy for him, but they acknowledge that they can never play with him or be associated with him publicly again, because 1. If they did they’d get cancelled for being friends openly with a groomer and 2. He’ll never be welcomed on the internet ever again.