I was there at the houston game. Honestly the concern is over blown for Caleb. Waldron needs to do less predictable plays. He had a few good one but needs to trust the offense instead of holding the leash close
I WAS THERE AS WELL AND ABSOLUTELY AGREE BRO……… WHATS MORE TERRIFYINGLY CONCERNING IS HOW OUR O-LINEMAN LET AZEEZ AL-SHAAIR LITERALLY PUNCH ROSHON IN THE FACE,PUSH AND THENNNNNN HEADBUTT ANOTHER PLAYER ON THEIR OWN SIDELINE!!!!!! I HAD A CLEAR VIEW AND IT WAS SOOOOOOOO PATHETIC THEY DID NOTHING AT ALL BACK!!!!!!!
i am not worried about williams whatsoever. i am worried about a team that can’t run the ball, asks their rookie to pass 45 times in low scoring game, who want swift to be a featured back and traded for allen and let mooney walk. we’ll be ok this year but we need a young slot receiver, a true 3 down back and more oline help. and everette is washed as well.
It's only been 2 games! I agree. I said before the season that it would take the bears offense a month before it gets going. They have a rookie qb and an offense still getting use to a new playbook.
I love that we are talking about him identifying the blitz and being active at the line. I saw too many dummies on tik tok saying that he can’t do that 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
this falls at the feet of the media for setting people up with unrealistic expectations. if everyone was saying hey, the Bears won't win more than 8 games; temper expectations in year 1, people probably wouldn't be so frustrated right now.
People can be adults and think for themselves. No one is making anyone believe what the media says. If you're feeling disappointment about the Bears so far, look inward. Stop blaming other people lol
A missing piece on the OL from last year, specifically the interior, is Cody Whitehair. Now to be clear, cutting Whitehair in the offseason was the right decision. The money saved on the salary cap versus the production etc, it was a no brainer. You could get Whitehair's production for cheaper. The problem though....is that they didn't. Not only did Poles not improve the line by replacing Whitehair, but he didn't even get a guy that could mirror his production at this stage of Cody's career. Brutal man.
The problem with the game wasn't management, the problem is the run game was getting blown up. Calling more run plays doesn't work when the team isn't executing them, it's not a magic wand.
Yeah, some people are like “pound the ball” well when the other team is stuffing the run you got to find another way. Now that doesn’t mean throw 3 screens in a row but some quick throws eap against blitzing downs would help
The Fishman is the BEST! Really would like to see this pairing permanent! Reality is Hoge has stretched himself so thin you can’t change the podcast without seeing him. The Fishman adds so much to the show too
@@Hiphiphooray490 unfortunately Carm was one of Hoges first bosses and I guess there’s a certain loyalty factor. To be totally fair, Carm the idiot on CHGO is not the same Carm on NBC Sports. On NBC he appears more adult like. Which is the true Carm ? Only his mom knows.
This dude Mike literally brings up Fields in Pittsburgh as an example of “managing the game” and having “success” does he not realize the Steelers offense is worse then the Bears and they both have the same amount of offensive TD’s as the Bears as well? Come on do better and let’s not ignore the Bears have faced easily 2 top 10 defenses with incredible DL’s compared to the Steelers who have faced the Broncos and the Falcons which neither are anywhere close to the level of DL’s as the Titans or Texans. Let’s see how “successful” he looks against the Chargers this week with Mack and Bosa coming at him and there defense and they force him to be a QB.
Do you know anything about Bears RBs? We have never had great OLs. But Jordan Howard and David Montgomery could always get yards after contact. Swift goes down if you barely touch him. You can't have a back like that with an OL that's having problems. The Bears drafted Jeremy Langford in 2016. He had speed, but would go down after initial contact. The GM had to draft another RB Jordan Howard the following year to replace Langford. Swift is Langford.
The guards let the DL go on the weak side of the play so they can get to the 2nd level. As the play unfolds usually the weak side guys can’t get to the runner. The problem was once those guys got to the 2nd level they were missing the block all together or getting blown back into the play. There’s no cut back lane to avoid that pressure because the backside guys are free runners.
The difference is the Bears offense hasn't looked good for the past 4 decades and it isn't going to get any better with a schmuck HC like Matt Eberflus.
Flus better be pounding it in Waldrons head that we are running the ball this weekend none of this drop back 50+ times bullshit. If we can’t get a run game going this weekend then I will be seriously concerned about what the outcome of this season is gonna be.
Serious question how much input does Flus have on the offense? Because idk if everyone forgot but Flus is a defensive minded coach and calls the defense which has looked fucking excellent. Why’re we screaming fire Flus when he has little to nothing to do with the offense I’d assume and the side of the ball he controls is literally either winning or keeping us in games 🤣 PS, this is about the voicemails not what you guys said during the show lol
Swift signing was a waste of resources,could have been used on a real able center. Poles just started his off season signings off on a questionable note. Center position was the"elephant" in the room and it still their current downfall whatever Poles plan for center was it turn out like xhit
but before the season started Williams was plugged in to the offense and take off. Now he needs time? Bears writers need to stop setting up their fans for disappointment
The doofus said stuff he pulled off at USC doesn't work in the NFL. Unfortunately, that means the episode gets a dislike and I'm out of here. I'll be back for next episode. And that actually sucks, because I was enjoying the episode up till that point. We literally drafted him because of the stuff he pulled off at USC.
people need to understand that bad offenses goes to the core of bears football. no one player or coach or Gm will fix it. The niners started great offense with Walsh almost 50 years ago. they had shanny the elder and now have his won. Who do the bears have in halas hall? they hired polian as a consultant and he's known for losing 4 SB in a row and only winning 1 with manning. Our offense will need years of consistent attention Allen, everette & swift fialed. no problem. try again. davis didnt work out? ok. draft more. The good new is that our defense is built and we arent losing anyone for 3-7 years. they are all young. We can now concentrate on this offense for a few years.
Caleb is a rookie. He was noticeably better in Houston. The Bears had the ball at the end with enough time to win the game. The Bears are 1-1, exactly where 95% of the so-called experts (like these 3 writers) thought they would be. To quote Jahns, breathe MFers!
We had an awesome run game last year. we thought we'd add swift to compliment it. We thought by adding Willaims, Odunze and Allen we'd upgrade our passing game. Its all been a disaster. The oline can no longer run block. Allen is injured. Rome looks like the worst rookie 1st round WR. Gerald Everette is old and can barely move. they never use Kmet and have benched herbert who was great last year when healthy. Waldron has been a complete and utter disaster thus far.
Notice how quiet the Caleb Glazer's have been these last two weeks. That's exactly how they painted. An upgrade day one? What a joke. Now they're backpedaling saying give him time 😂😂😂
@@randomyoutuber7898 the sports media figures in general bought into the Williams hype mirage. They spent months insisting he'd be mR gEnErAtiOnAL and anyone who didn't think so or was critical was an idiot. Now they're all pretending they didn't do that. It's pathetic.
@@keatoncain6481 no comparison. Young had amazing talent all around him. Oline, WR, etc… relax and give it more than 2 weeks. Joe Burrow threw a whole 13 TDs his rookie year.
Flus better be pounding it in Waldrons head that we are running the ball this weekend none of this drop back 50+ times bullshit. If we can’t get a run game going this weekend then I will be seriously concerned about what the outcome of this season is gonna be.
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I was there at the houston game. Honestly the concern is over blown for Caleb. Waldron needs to do less predictable plays. He had a few good one but needs to trust the offense instead of holding the leash close
I WAS THERE AS WELL AND ABSOLUTELY AGREE BRO……… WHATS MORE TERRIFYINGLY CONCERNING IS HOW OUR O-LINEMAN LET AZEEZ AL-SHAAIR LITERALLY PUNCH ROSHON IN THE FACE,PUSH AND THENNNNNN HEADBUTT ANOTHER PLAYER ON THEIR OWN SIDELINE!!!!!! I HAD A CLEAR VIEW AND IT WAS SOOOOOOOO PATHETIC THEY DID NOTHING AT ALL BACK!!!!!!!
@@newnewjohnson4776 I was wondering why no penalty or anything smh
i am not worried about williams whatsoever. i am worried about a team that can’t run the ball, asks their rookie to pass 45 times in low scoring game, who want swift to be a featured back and traded for allen and let mooney walk.
we’ll be ok this year but we need a young slot receiver, a true 3 down back and more oline help. and everette is washed as well.
It's only been 2 games! I agree. I said before the season that it would take the bears offense a month before it gets going. They have a rookie qb and an offense still getting use to a new playbook.
You didn’t have to be there to see that, was he really shaking on the sideline…
I love that we are talking about him identifying the blitz and being active at the line. I saw too many dummies on tik tok saying that he can’t do that 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
this falls at the feet of the media for setting people up with unrealistic expectations. if everyone was saying hey, the Bears won't win more than 8 games; temper expectations in year 1, people probably wouldn't be so frustrated right now.
People can be adults and think for themselves. No one is making anyone believe what the media says. If you're feeling disappointment about the Bears so far, look inward. Stop blaming other people lol
A missing piece on the OL from last year, specifically the interior, is Cody Whitehair. Now to be clear, cutting Whitehair in the offseason was the right decision. The money saved on the salary cap versus the production etc, it was a no brainer. You could get Whitehair's production for cheaper. The problem though....is that they didn't. Not only did Poles not improve the line by replacing Whitehair, but he didn't even get a guy that could mirror his production at this stage of Cody's career. Brutal man.
Poles did get a guy who is better than Whitehair. However, Nate Davis turned out to be a THIEF who has no pride whatsoever.
The problem with the game wasn't management, the problem is the run game was getting blown up. Calling more run plays doesn't work when the team isn't executing them, it's not a magic wand.
Yeah, some people are like “pound the ball” well when the other team is stuffing the run you got to find another way. Now that doesn’t mean throw 3 screens in a row but some quick throws eap against blitzing downs would help
We had no run game because that comes down to our OL blocking….
They should've spent that 8 mil on an O lineman.
Hard to disagree. Only thing I can say other than that is should've signed saquon.
Great conversation and Mike Jones makes me feel not as crazy when I ask why aren’t they running the ball to help the rookie QB.
The callers are fabulous.
The Fishman is the BEST! Really would like to see this pairing permanent! Reality is Hoge has stretched himself so thin you can’t change the podcast without seeing him. The Fishman adds so much to the show too
If Hoge was smart, he’d dump CHGO, and be free of Carm.
@@Hiphiphooray490 unfortunately Carm was one of Hoges first bosses and I guess there’s a certain loyalty factor. To be totally fair, Carm the idiot on CHGO is not the same Carm on NBC Sports. On NBC he appears more adult like. Which is the true Carm ? Only his mom knows.
I was expecting for Jahns to be tippin' on fo'-fo's, wrapped in fo'-vouges with Mike Jones but i guess they got the wrong guy
That was so funny the last time I heard that I fell off my dinosaur
Mike jonessss… still tippin
This dude Mike literally brings up Fields in Pittsburgh as an example of “managing the game” and having “success” does he not realize the Steelers offense is worse then the Bears and they both have the same amount of offensive TD’s as the Bears as well? Come on do better and let’s not ignore the Bears have faced easily 2 top 10 defenses with incredible DL’s compared to the Steelers who have faced the Broncos and the Falcons which neither are anywhere close to the level of DL’s as the Titans or Texans. Let’s see how “successful” he looks against the Chargers this week with Mack and Bosa coming at him and there defense and they force him to be a QB.
I love your show but the ads make it impossible to listen here on RUclips. Every few minutes in the middle of sentences I'm getting multiple ads.
Sounds like you're too cheap to pay $12.99 a month for You Tube Premium. I never see ads.
Do you know anything about Bears RBs? We have never had great OLs. But Jordan Howard and David Montgomery could always get yards after contact. Swift goes down if you barely touch him. You can't have a back like that with an OL that's having problems.
The Bears drafted Jeremy Langford in 2016. He had speed, but would go down after initial contact. The GM had to draft another RB Jordan Howard the following year to replace Langford. Swift is Langford.
It's worth noting the Josh Allen was not good for quite awhile before he got his shit together and became a star.
And Nathan Peterman was the starter. I believe for the first two games. LOL
The fishman's stats are always top shelf! I love it!
Fishman is the king of bears reporters imho
@@DJKaBz1he's definitely top shelf
The guards let the DL go on the weak side of the play so they can get to the 2nd level. As the play unfolds usually the weak side guys can’t get to the runner. The problem was once those guys got to the 2nd level they were missing the block all together or getting blown back into the play. There’s no cut back lane to avoid that pressure because the backside guys are free runners.
Let’s go Fishbain!!!!
i honestly think bears fans need to stfu about literally everything until the week after the bye
Agreed -
No
Including YOU?
Can we always note that alot of offenses these first 2 weeks did not look good this season? Its some serious over reaction
The difference is the Bears offense hasn't looked good for the past 4 decades and it isn't going to get any better with a schmuck HC like Matt Eberflus.
Flus better be pounding it in Waldrons head that we are running the ball this weekend none of this drop back 50+ times bullshit. If we can’t get a run game going this weekend then I will be seriously concerned about what the outcome of this season is gonna be.
Serious question how much input does Flus have on the offense? Because idk if everyone forgot but Flus is a defensive minded coach and calls the defense which has looked fucking excellent. Why’re we screaming fire Flus when he has little to nothing to do with the offense I’d assume and the side of the ball he controls is literally either winning or keeping us in games 🤣 PS, this is about the voicemails not what you guys said during the show lol
Swift signing was a waste of resources,could have been used on a real able center. Poles just started his off season signings off on a questionable note. Center position was the"elephant" in the room and it still their current downfall whatever Poles plan for center was it turn out like xhit
So they have the worst rushing d and we have the worst running game…what makes you think the Bears should be able to run.
You can't just give up my man.
the run game was supported by teams needing to contain Justin and Monty breaking tackles.
but before the season started Williams was plugged in to the offense and take off. Now he needs time? Bears writers need to stop setting up their fans for disappointment
Need to be running the ball.
The bears are 1-1, which is exactly what everyone predicted after 2 games yet the fan base has the “sky is falling” mentality rn. Makes no sense
The doofus said stuff he pulled off at USC doesn't work in the NFL. Unfortunately, that means the episode gets a dislike and I'm out of here. I'll be back for next episode. And that actually sucks, because I was enjoying the episode up till that point.
We literally drafted him because of the stuff he pulled off at USC.
people need to understand that bad offenses goes to the core of bears football.
no one player or coach or Gm will fix it.
The niners started great offense with Walsh almost 50 years ago. they had shanny the elder and now have his won.
Who do the bears have in halas hall? they hired polian as a consultant and he's known for losing 4 SB in a row and only winning 1 with manning.
Our offense will need years of consistent attention
Allen, everette & swift fialed. no problem. try again. davis didnt work out? ok. draft more.
The good new is that our defense is built and we arent losing anyone for 3-7 years. they are all young.
We can now concentrate on this offense for a few years.
Caleb is a rookie. He was noticeably better in Houston. The Bears had the ball at the end with enough time to win the game. The Bears are 1-1, exactly where 95% of the so-called experts (like these 3 writers) thought they would be. To quote Jahns, breathe MFers!
Mike Jones’ solitons were some of the the most obvious stuff I’ve ever heard. And he praised Malik Willis & the Packers?! What was that about?!
It's been two games. Two. Chill.
What will you say after they lose to the Colts? Will you say "it's only three games"?
They need to start hitting harder play smash mouth like the Texans . Maybe then they’ll get some R.E.S.P.E.C.T. And BearDown Chicago Bears
WAAAAAAAYYYYY TOO EARLY.
Had no idea who the Mike Jones dude was, and now I know why that was the case. Delusional.
Also, buy a damn microphone, jesus.
All the people calling in don't sound like real Bears fans expect for B-man! BTW they're only 1-1
Yikes. Come on man. BearDown
with WHO?!?
Waldron is getsy again
Hey, how about a special addition Fishbaine and Johns Merch selection?
Same old Same old what you see is what you get!
The only thing that really concerns me about Caleb is his accuracy.
Who?
I love being a Bears fan. I can give up on the same old awful Bears every year after Week 2 and enjoy my fall Sundays 😂
Your obviously what we call a bandwagon fan.😂
We had an awesome run game last year. we thought we'd add swift to compliment it.
We thought by adding Willaims, Odunze and Allen we'd upgrade our passing game.
Its all been a disaster. The oline can no longer run block. Allen is injured. Rome looks like the worst rookie 1st round WR. Gerald Everette is old and can barely move. they never use Kmet and have benched herbert who was great last year when healthy.
Waldron has been a complete and utter disaster thus far.
1-1 with 15 games left and everybody's jumping off a bridge! I can't stand Bears fans these days!
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Bear down
There are TOO MANY COMMERCIAL INTERUPTIONS. I am not watching this anymore.
Aww poor baby is too cheap to pay a small fee for YT Premium!
Bunch or cry babies on the voice mails
Fishman needs to stop 🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑🛑
Play Sherbet swift stinks
A bunch of cry babies. On the voicemail that is. BearDown
No.
We were assured Williams would be a day one upgrade over Fields.
He hasn't been.
Derp
Notice how quiet the Caleb Glazer's have been these last two weeks. That's exactly how they painted. An upgrade day one? What a joke. Now they're backpedaling saying give him time 😂😂😂
@@randomyoutuber7898fields is still trash, get over it
@@MrMuhffins Caleb glazer spotted 😂😂😂
@@randomyoutuber7898 the sports media figures in general bought into the Williams hype mirage. They spent months insisting he'd be mR gEnErAtiOnAL and anyone who didn't think so or was critical was an idiot. Now they're all pretending they didn't do that. It's pathetic.
💭 Generational Haul 😢
Wait what the guy who played terrible against every good college defense is struggling against nfl defenses???
Come on, go watch his sophomore years games. Especially the one against ND. He was amazing. Nobody ever talks about his that ND game just last years.
@@MS-gp8zd yessir Bryce young was amazing too in college!
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@@keatoncain6481 no comparison. Young had amazing talent all around him. Oline, WR, etc… relax and give it more than 2 weeks. Joe Burrow threw a whole 13 TDs his rookie year.
Flus better be pounding it in Waldrons head that we are running the ball this weekend none of this drop back 50+ times bullshit. If we can’t get a run game going this weekend then I will be seriously concerned about what the outcome of this season is gonna be.