DO NOT BUY THE LIMITED EDITION BENCHMADE BAILOUT!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2023
- I don't care if this ruffles some feathers - this is the most anti-consumer move I've ever seen in the knife industry and somebody needs to call this out.
Definitively a brain fart to say it was 9 thousandths and not 9 hundredths lol. I get so used to saying thousandths because I'm measuring behind the edge thickness that my brain went on autopilot for wording there.
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Benchmade has been doing this for years and years
I'm glad to see people finally starting to notice
Beautifully said Sherif, Benchmade is 💯 taking advantage of their loyal customers and fans!
Benchmade may be the worst, but other companies (some of them) play the same game.
As far as ridiculous markups are concerned, Shirogorov must be the craziest! I have purched 5 clones of Shirogorov knives, made by Green Thorn, for about $50 each. They are not marked Shirogorov, so I don’t consider them to be fakes. Guess what? The clones are IDENTICAL to the originals, in terms of quality, action, and is most other ways, FOR 1/20 (5%) OF THE COST OF THE ORIGINAL… Talk about ridiculous markups! That said, no doubt costs are higher in Russia than in China, but it’s hard to pay $1000, for what is readily available for $50! That said, I did buy an original Shirogorov knife recently (a Quantum Ursus), brand new, and guess what? I don’t like it all that much…
@@yankee2yankee216 ya that’s wild and I hope can sell it and get something you like
I've had Benchmade fans (I love Benchmade too BTW), INSULT me in the comments for complaining about their prices. It's a cult now
It’s called capitalism. They can charge whatever they want. Nobody is forcing us too buy it.
Absolutely right man! What they're doing with their prices is insane. They produce good and beautiful knives (mostly) but their actual pricing policy is out of control!
Bad qc. And service...so no
Idk about good 😂 they’re notorious for piss poor QC
$600 for the Titanium Bailout. WTF!
I purchased a Hogue Deka in Magnacut online for $120. They've gone up since but still below the Bugout. And with Magnacut. I have several Benchmade knives. I have no plans to buy anymore.
This needed to be said and thank you for doing so! I already see videos of people that know better that still purchased this overpriced product which is not helping in anyway to get Benchmade to realize that this is not okay
I could boil a stew in Sherifs justified anger.
I appreciate you sherif! It is truly insane that people In general make it ok to have these price hikes. Nothing new, that's why I don't have a benchmade . There are soo many other brands that give you way more for the money!
Wow. I guess titanium is a real challenge for benchmade? Lol.
Been saying this for a while now. Glad someone with more reach is echoing the sentiment. Thank you.
This trend of making things titanium to over priced them has also hit the flashlight industry and boxcutters paying 200 for a titanium box cutter is ridiculous too.
Not to mention, there’s TRM that make infinitely better knives than Benchmade, all USA made, are a small, family owned company with THE BEST people in the industry and even their full titanium knives (the machining on which is miles ahead of some plain bead blasted scales like the bailout) don’t reach a $600 price tag. This is shameful on Benchmade’s part.
This 100%! So many other companies we should be supporting that have significantly better value.
Abw as well! The model 2 is so amazing. USA, titanium, magnacut!! For 320$. Benchmade are a bunch of crooks and scammers.
Three Rivers Manufacturing are wonderful but their waiting list means you will die of old age before you can get one.
Waiting list? They post on their website when they are going to do a drop. You log in for the drop and hope you beat everyone else to the punch. In two months I managed to buy four different knives. There is no waiting list. @@sputumtube
Haven't bought a Benchmade in like 15 years. They have totally lost me as a customer. There are so many other companies that give you so much more for your money.
Don’t forget how much of a fiasco it was when everyone discovered how soft the first bailout was too with the heat treat!
$200 is about as high as I go .. I really don’t believe any knife is worth more that that. K there’s a point where is becomes about max profit and it makes me 🤢
Don’t you dare tell me what to do 😂 but seriously, thanks for breaking it down.
Happy to help!
I bought a Griptilian from my local hardware store for 100 bucks on sale. I thought that was fine. I would never pay Benchmades full price for any of their stuff.
and their customer service is not nearly as good as people say, especially if you live outside of the usa they absolutely don't give a sh*t about you and don't even answer your emails.
Most knifes are overpriced, but this is crazy.
Im in Australia so the price of Benchmade products has always been inflated here, but I purchased a bugout and freek in 2019 that are both good knives, but for the price ($275 & $400 AUD at the time) if I lost them I dont think I would replace them. I bought a Kubey tityus with anodized micromilled titanium handles and hardware and 14c last week for $92 USD ($150 AUD). I understand some wouldnt buy their products for reasons, but that's the contrast we're faced with as consumers.
Yeah it's fucking outrageous. There's no polite way to say it. They've lost their minds. But I'll save everyone the headache by not getting into how Chinese manufacturers are surpassing companies like Benchmade because of their pricing. I'll stick with companies like WE, Demko, Kunwu, Reate, ect. Lol, this is embarrassing for them.
Really digging the righteous anger on this one! It is indeed absurd. They didn't even do any cool milling on the titanium scales, they're just smooth! Those guys in Oregon are smoking a bit too much of the devil's lettuce lol
When you mentioned Apple, I had a thought: maybe they saw that the new iPhone is coming out and all the commercials are hyping up muh titanium, and they thought, "hey, dumb consumers are gonna be going crazy for anything tITaNiUm now, so let's get in on that and slap some scales on one of our knives and more than double the price for it! These idiot consumers will totally buy it rofllmao!!!!1!!!11!!!"
That's the theory I'm going with, because they are clearly so disconnected from their customer base that it's probably true.
Righteous anger? Guys, just don't buy it. You don't need this thing to survive, what is there to get angry about?
@@Ash__7 because if a company like this can get away with these insane price hikes, then other companies will eventually decide to jack their prices up even more, too. And even though I have no interest in buying this knife, I still find it ridiculous and insulting for Benchmade to act like this is reasonable. I want so badly to support American made stuff but if their answer to the foreign competition is gonna be this, then they’re digging their own graves and that is bad for the country.
There’s a dealer on Facebook that said he had 6 of these Bailouts and claims to have already sold them all. A commenter on another video said he heard that Benchmade hired a consultant. And that consultant recommended that they raise the prices of their knives so that they would be perceived as a more premium product. I also wonder how much of this is due to Jon deAsis taking over as CEO after the passing of his father. I think he is trying to put his own stamp on the company.
Sad thing is that they don't sell many "premium" knives. They make pretty good work knives. That's all.
I saw that post
Well..that explains alot
Needless to say, I completely agree with everything you said. Benchmade’s reputation has been tarnished in my view, which is not only disrespectful to its customers but also embarrassing for the ‘made in the US’ community.
I’d also like to mention HOGUE. Their Doug Ritter and Deka are much superior knives than Griptilian and Bugout they resemble, for more reasonable price and featuring top steels like Magna-Cut and 20cv for all models not only for “special editions“.
I was shocked when I saw it on knife center. I honestly thought it was a mistake on their part
I remember growing up in the 90s flipping through knife catalogs, dreaming of getting a Benchmade one day. Last year my interest in knives reawakened and I finally got one, the Freek. I picked up a couple more but since the Narrows came out, most people would say you are a fool to support them. It’s sad to me. It’s sad what they have done. They won’t answer the mob; all of those comments on IG get no response. Soon they will resort to turning comments off because the defenders have given up.
I was not even aware of this version until your video. Found one $100 off, no tax, free shipping. Got it last month and it's just awesome. Thanks!
Since the death of Les de Asis Benchmade has lost it’s way.
Yes indeed, Benchmade have lost their mind! And haven't I heard they have quality control problems?
I own a handful of Benchmades, but I'll be hard pressed to continue supporting them, with the OUTRAGEOUS pricing they have these days.
I have the 940, 940-2, full immunity, and the mini crooked river... the mini killed it for me. no way it's a 300 knife
Well done, Sherif, that was beautifully said and very articulate. Great job making it easy for non knife folks to understand!
It's hilarious that with that insane price hike they couldn't even be bothered to mill the scales like the aluminum one. Somehow Benchmade seems to have gotten it into their head that they're competing with CRK and Hinderer 😆
"A fool and his money will soon be separated." 👐
A quote has never summed me up as a person so accurately! That being said, Benchmade goes too far!!!!!!! 😂
there is zero disagreement. ill never by a bench made
Mad respect for you and tristate for sticking with the youtube shindig.
I saw this knife on BladeHQ and all I could do was laugh that they wanted $600 for it.
I would buy a Sebenza for that.
Thing is, they all sold out really quick. So like it or not there’s people who will but a $150 knife for $600 and not think twice.
"Yes, He's shitting on Benchmade!" Best Tristate quote ever.🤣😂
It is a damn disgusting piece of behaviour from an American company to be actually taking advantage of its own citizens and their love of their country in such a disgraceful way! Be proud of yourselves and show them exactly how much your country really means to you all as one on this disgusting disgrace from a so called proud company. My thoughts and Benchmade boycott is with you all on this matter my fellow knife family members much love from the UK. Stand strong and stand together the people will be proven right 🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻
Yep, just saw it at KSF yesterday and thought the same thing. Axis patent gone so everyone has been improving on it and BM is in a mad scramble trying to cash in. Their heat treat has never been optimal, patchy QC, gold class QC blunders with more ridiculous prices, the warranty doesn't mean much if your knife comes back looking like it was bring your kid to work day and they let literal children grind your blade. Immunity and narrows, way overpriced and now this.
It's a titanium bailout with a CRK price tag.... what will they think of next?
It literally costs less to move up to a titanium iPhone 15 pro from the aluminum iPhone 15 than it costs to move up to a titanium bailout from the aluminum bailout..
You could get anything for that price.... chris reeve sebenza..inkosi... and still have some left over...
Or get two or three Spyderco knives..
Bench made doesn’t make knives , they make fancy letter openers for office workers
What your saying ain't wrong. They were my favorite brand but they PRICED me out. It's just crazy.
Me with my buttery smooth WE Knife with titanium everything and 20cv blade. For just over $200.
Man I love my bugout and like benchmades designs but your completely right we have yo drive are point home by not buying they're products
Love Benchmades. Great knives, and I get them at a discount for being in the military. But I wouldnt buy it at that price, regardless of manufacturer.
AAFES inventory is limited and I suspect over time they will go away from carrying them altogether.
I dont know. They have a big sale now. Ordered another 940 foe $140. Was about to get the Bushcrafter for the same price but sold out. The Bailout $188.@@Scooby3150
These days you can get a Hinderer or Chris Reeves on the aftermarket for under $500. Only reason to buy a benchmade at that level is if you have some extra money and dont mind throwing it away.
I stop collecting benchmade long ago. Fit and finish is hit or miss and with these price hikes is a no go for me. Definitely getting out of hand. You can find a Koenig Arius on the secondary now for 600. Ten times better then benchmade will ever be. Great content completely agree.
These prices are insane now, I can’t believe it’s gotten so bad. I got my bailout in an eBay auction with a couple other knives for 350. It’s insane that Benchmade is using their name to extort consumers.
Couldn’t agree more, you can buy a regular m4 bailout buy sweeeeet after market Ti scales and still come out well under $600 not to mention the competition at that price point it’s absolutely insane
They have gotten greedy, especially since the Narrows came out. For me it was Sog knives ,I thought that they were over priced so now I don't even look at anything that they make. Benchmade is very close to that point .
I buy only 🇺🇸made knives and I’m glad you made this video. Actually every RUclips knife channel should make a dedicated video about this issue with Benchmade. You earned my Subscription. Thx 👍🏼
This time next year an off the shelf basic bugout with plastic handles and s30v will be over $200….that is just sad. But it’s not just benchmade. Spyderco and benchmade seem to be in a race who can be the first to raise their prices every year.
Nice job wording this in a way that caters to folks who are brand new in the knife world. Those are exactly the type of consumers Benchmade is preying on with these criminal prices
It's sad because when I started in this hobby BM was a really good place to start for quality, affordable knives. Pretty much all the BMs I bought are now double what I originally bought them for and nothing about them has changed except the price. It's a joke.
💯agree! Benchmade can keep their knives as far as I’m concerned. The only way a big company will pay any attention is for the consumer to stop getting caught up in the hype and stop buying their product at these ridiculous prices!
Well said and very informative! 👍
Yeah for that price I would go with a CRK or strider. Maybe a little more depending on the model, but a much better knife.
congrats on 10k TRISTATE !
Thank you for being honest about Benchmade. I no longer watch channels like Metal Complex who are dishonest about Benchmade.
Metal Complex literally said don’t buy this knife as well lol. What did he say that was “dishonest”?
@@zachmcmahan8481 he recently basically said that all people who have Benchmade service issues are lying. He said that Benchmade doesn’t have service issues. They have massive service issues, I have a 940-2 that I need to send in right now. I’m glad he was honest about this one but I’d rather watch channels where I actually learn things where the person isn’t a tool.
It will definitely be interesting to see if all these ultra high prices bite them in the ass or not. I haven’t bought a BM in over three years now. No interest anymore.
I've stopped with their last increase. Got about a dozen and a half. Oh well.
I used to like benchmades knives. I have 4 of them. I just stopped because I didn’t see them even try to evolve. Same weak springs. Same wonky heat treats on steel. Sure the warranty is good but the competition is doing better for less. American made with better materials, better fit/finish, better action, & better pricing.
Howdy, Sherif M ... thanks for the notice and here's some luv and nudge to 2K from your boi Tristate EDC.
I have a DLC coated M4 delica, it cost me $90. The M4 manix lW was $119. I tend to think that benchmade models, including the bailout are overpriced generally. I think it would be difficult to justify buying a benchmade that costs as much as a sebenza.
Love yah Sherif ... the get home bag was a great watch ..... I'm commenting because of big daddy Tristate but the comments are genuine dig your knives and content..... TRISTATE
When I hear the letters BM, two things come to mind 🦋 💩 in with the Tristate crew
Tristate sends his love, and a crusty sock. Keep it up brother
Brother Tristate is sending you some love.
If we don’t buy it, they’ll get the message(maybe)•but That’s all we can do is speak with our wallets•actions are louder than words•
Well said.. thank you!! 😊
Hey Sherif, you've got some nice designs. Tristate gave you a shout out.
I agree with tristate, your site is amazing. Benchmade mini bugout in stormtrooper black/white is fun.
Tristate thanks for the honesty
Yeah I completely agree, can get the shot show version and flytanium scales for a fraction of that.
That settles it, I’m getting one.
Visiting from TriState. Nice stuff, Sharif!
Benchmade...🤮
nice analysis of the market
Benchmade is anti consumer. Only thing I’d buy from the butterfly anymore is maybe a grip or a presidio. The margins for those as coherent pricing is quickly slipping away.
Tristate flood sent me here. Glad he did. Looking forward to seeing your content.
I understand inflation, but the price hikes for older models and the pricing of current models is fucking outrageous imo 🤔
What up Sherif, I'm back to win that big prize from Tristate
What other American companies are making titanium knives all machined in America that are the same blade thickness more competitive? I like M4 a lot. I bought the 180 dollar version. You can get Flytanium scales for any version. Limited editions have been going for ridiculous markup in the secondary market. Para 3 M4 etc. I have the M4 Freak, bought on release day for 180 it is still worth 300 in the secondary. I only buy American Made, I’m from Oregon, and I do buy expensive knives, but probably not this titanium benchmade.
Well said, bought used Bailout M4 on Knafsale and Rockscale Designs ti scales all for about $325
tristate sent me. Love your stuff brother
The last thing I bought from Benchmade was a Bugout with a combo edge that was on sale for under $100.
I bought the OG bugout in 2018 for 114$. They now want 180$ and that before tax and shipping. I bought my 3v bailout new on Knife Swap for 125$. I would buy the nicest Ti scales from rock island for 200$ and be way happier.
Tristate wanted us to whisper sweet nothings in your comments.
"sausage grease..."
Great video brother 👍 👌
Nice Video! Agreed 100%!
Benchmade has went absolutely crazy with their prices. Tbh prices for USA are a bit ridiculous in general but Benchmade have went much much too far.
I was just listening to Tristate and he agrees with you. Benchmade is stuck in the PAST, but expect prices from the future.
So glad someone else is saying this out loud. #Benchmade #Blasted A massive WorkTuff knife is a fraction of the price of this Benchmade. As is a custom TJ Schwartz Overland fixed blade or production variety Bradford Guardian.
Benchmade has a monthly contest where someone wins a knife. I wonder if anyone actually wins a knife, or if it's just a scam. Has there been any winners?
Give me a Spyderco any day
Tristate wants to give you a mustache lovin
Thank you for your insight....you are correct... :-"
Whaaaaat? I thought sheriff was an American thing, ya know the police man.
ZT 0408BLKTS. Titanium handles, beast of a knife. Love it.
Tristate sent us here, I was already subscribed though, so hello
Good morning, brother!
Benchmade have lost me completely. The Bugout family of knives had already been more expensive over here in Germany, so the increase NOW is even more severe. The Narrows starts around 570€ (600$ Plus x) and I'm a bit hesitant to search for the Ti Bailout.
Only a week ago my latest knife hit the shelves (Titanium Slipjoint with Böhler's M390) for 220€. Less than just the up charged price from BM without the scales... It's completely nuts!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Greetings from Germany!
Andi
Instead of the Bugout, check out the Hogue Deka 2. It's extremely similar to the Bugout, made in the US, has Magnacut steel and a crossbar lock. You can usually get them for about $140 USD. They have a weird Wharncliffe style and a standard drop point style.
I've used mine for everything for a year and a half, and it's like new. Thin, light, well built, with better steel for significantly lower cost.
@@adx442 thank you so much for the recommendation! I really like the looks of the Deka and it seems to be a great choice, but it's not so easy to find tor a decent price here in Germany. But I'm going to keep my eyes open. 👌🏻
@@Andi1878
May I ask what slipjoint that is?
@@benm4290 oh, of course... It's the TuyaKnife BLACKBEARD V2.0. Mr. Dave Warren from TuyaKnife US would be your contact.
I just bought the new crater blue and fde bailout, the new carbon fiber mini adamas and a new grip6 wallet (all new in box) from a dealer for less than the cost of a 600 bailout
that spartan is gorgeous.