Things That Don't Make Sense About The Disaster Of Pompeii

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @GrungeHQ
    @GrungeHQ  Месяц назад +5

    What do you find most interesting about the disaster of Pompeii?

    • @stevehammel2939
      @stevehammel2939 Месяц назад

      The tragedy that was Pompeii, Herculaneum, Oplontis and Strabiae gave us a better understanding of everyday life.

    • @That.Guy.
      @That.Guy. Месяц назад

      I was there earlier this year and they told us that most of the city was abandoned by the time the volcano went off. Plus if you were to write it down and send it to someone what are the odds of it still being around 2000 years later? If you wrote a letter on paper and sent it to someone what are they gonna do it for a day or two?

    • @Flyingdutchy33
      @Flyingdutchy33 Месяц назад

      The fact that its murals have depth, same as in the renaiscance era. This would be a site that predated that style of painting by more than 1000 years.

    • @That.Guy.
      @That.Guy. Месяц назад

      @@Flyingdutchy33 I was in Pompeii in June. there is only one single mural in the entire city that has depth perspective. It is located and what they believe to be a gym due to the murals of people exercising. everything else in pompeii is 2-D.

    • @Flyingdutchy33
      @Flyingdutchy33 Месяц назад

      @@That.Guy. You missed quite a few then.

  • @The_Dudester
    @The_Dudester Месяц назад +33

    0:25 Why didn't the Romans understand the warning signs? Because they had no frame of reference. There wasn't a book "How to understand volcanoes" because no Roman scientists of that era had observed and documented a volcanic eruption. There is a modern day equivalency. There were two actual USGS scientists on Mt. Saint Helens when it blew (they had about 5 to 10 seconds to live because they were actually standing on the bulge that blew out). The only frame of reference for American scientists was seeing Mauna Loa (which is a gentle volcano-not that explosive) and a South American volcano with small pyroclastic flows. The USGS didn't begin to understand a massive pyroclastic flow, like the one Mt. Saint Helens had.
    8:40 First hand accounts? The writings of Pliny the Younger were considered the musings of a teenage boy until Mt. Saint Helens blew. Pliny described the pyroclastic flows as a large black cloud that fell from the air and raced down the side of the volcano. Once Mt. Saint Helens blew, the USGS now understood what he was talking about. As for others not documenting the volcano, consider, that nightly, things happen where you live and you have no clue because reporters are safely tucked in their beds at night. Talk to cops that work the night shift and they will tell you things that will scare you so bad you will never have need of ex-lax.

    • @arelendil7
      @arelendil7 Месяц назад +2

      And they didn't know Vesuvius or Mount Somma was a volcano, the previous eruption had happened one thousand years before. It was eroded and full of vegetation, it didn't look like a volcano. Greek and Roman Mythology tell that the Titans were trapped below the volcanos by Athena and Zeus. This is the reason of the earthquakes and the reason of being a mountain. However, the gentle volcanos from the Campi Flegrei were the doors to Hades (Underworld). Saying that there were giants on top of Vesuvius (smoke) implied (also culturally) that it could well be a volcano.

  • @laurastrobel718
    @laurastrobel718 Месяц назад +11

    I've always been fascinated by this event. Interesting details I hadn't heard about before like fluoride in the environment. Thanks for the video.

  • @daphneloose5880
    @daphneloose5880 Месяц назад +7

    I love history. I am always fascinated by the history of our past.
    great video!!

  • @JennFaeAge
    @JennFaeAge Месяц назад +18

    Let's be honest, I think people are overestimating how much reaction time people would've had. The pyroclastic flow especially would've given very little time to react (go look up how fast those things move if you don't believe me)

    • @gabrieldee345don5
      @gabrieldee345don5 Месяц назад

      They had to leave long before the pyroclastic flow, at the first sign of activity, which they did not recognise as a risk. (to read The_Dudester comment)

  • @paulgdlmx
    @paulgdlmx Месяц назад +28

    Why doesn't everyone leave Los Angeles knowing fully well that an earthquake is immanent?

    • @track1949
      @track1949 Месяц назад +2

      Good point. 😅

    • @fedupamerican296
      @fedupamerican296 Месяц назад

      There is no escaping deadly weather. Every place on earth...and beyond, has ways to kill you. Floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunamis, fire, no place is 100% safe. May ad wrll be where you are most comfortable and happy.

    • @JimboShogun0686
      @JimboShogun0686 Месяц назад +5

      Why doesn't everyone leave Florida knowing a hurricane is coming?

    • @lp-he3gl
      @lp-he3gl Месяц назад +1

      Where do you think they would go? It's hardly that simple.

    • @fedupamerican296
      @fedupamerican296 Месяц назад

      @@lp-he3gl ty.

  • @UraTrowelie
    @UraTrowelie Месяц назад +7

    I agree, fluoridated water isn't a better option for human consuption than lava.

  • @rolfsinkgraven
    @rolfsinkgraven Месяц назад +4

    Been there and they are still digging and discovering more facts and stuff.

  • @melaniemcclendon6261
    @melaniemcclendon6261 Месяц назад +10

    My birthday is August 24th. I have always been fascinated by Pompeii. Thanks for the video.

    • @MissBarker93
      @MissBarker93 Месяц назад

      Happy belated birthday!

    • @melaniemcclendon6261
      @melaniemcclendon6261 Месяц назад

      @@MissBarker93 Thank you so much!!😁

    • @DvLnDsGyZ
      @DvLnDsGyZ Месяц назад

      Happy Birthday young lady 😊

    • @melaniemcclendon6261
      @melaniemcclendon6261 Месяц назад

      @@DvLnDsGyZ Thanks so much!😁

    • @UraTrowelie
      @UraTrowelie Месяц назад +1

      Happy birthday, Herculaneum is a very cool place to look into as well

  • @RalphtheDog1
    @RalphtheDog1 Месяц назад +13

    We watched Mt. St. Helens bulge in the Pacific Northwest just going about normal life. It's not a crisis until the reaction of the occurrence. I'd bet the house the people of Pompeii felt about the same no matter the date of eruption. Hawaii is a prime example of human resistance to the expected unknown.

    • @helixator3975
      @helixator3975 Месяц назад +2

      Much like we’re all going about our business as global temperatures rise and the hands of nuclear clock inch ever closer to midnight.

    • @Nylon_riot
      @Nylon_riot Месяц назад

      ​@helixator3975 that clock is nothing but propaganda. How do you measure risk, precisely? There is nothing stopping anyone from using these weapons at any point of time other than contrived civility. I wonder what else is propaganda?

  • @samuelmeasa9283
    @samuelmeasa9283 Месяц назад +8

    The stories about giants are easy to explain. Volcano's are known for hurling large rocks into the air when they are active. Someone seeing bolder the size of a small goat land near them would likely pass if off as being hurled by a giant. Also the sounds a volcano can make during its active phase might at a distance sound like a large creature bellowing. Unknowing locals would then pass those sounds off as Giants doing Giant things". Finally if there where any Dinosaur bones in the area, they may have been attributed to having been from a giant. I wish I was making that last one up but one dig was credited to a historical document listing the area as being the grave of "A CYCLOPS", only it wasn't a Cyclops, rather the grave of a Mastodon.

    • @AncientWildTV
      @AncientWildTV Месяц назад +1

      do you think these interpretations of natural phenomena shape our understanding of history and mythology today?

    • @samuelmeasa9283
      @samuelmeasa9283 Месяц назад +1

      @@AncientWildTV Yes and at the same time No. That would be better left to Philosophers and Scientist to answer. I am simply a student of history who would rather not over think things.
      Actually I did start to list reasons why, but it turned into more fact checking then I can do in five minutes for a Wall of Text. Also If I can I prefer to leave the Walls of Text over on Reddit.

    • @AncientWildTV
      @AncientWildTV Месяц назад +1

      @@samuelmeasa9283 thanks. I also like history, and it can actually provide so many fascinating perspectives without getting too bogged down in complex theories.

  • @morenofranco9235
    @morenofranco9235 Месяц назад +8

    Why only one account? From one person who was across the bay of Naples, who was a writer and historian. Which is different fronm the average person - as were the people of Pompeii. Survivors may have TOLD others. Over time the story would die along with every one who ever heard of it. With nothing written down we would never know. Todays world is JUST like this EVERY DAY.

  • @JetLagRecords
    @JetLagRecords Месяц назад +2

    Grunge, nice video keep it up dude

  • @GeoffV-k1h
    @GeoffV-k1h Месяц назад +15

    One of the arguments critics of Jesus' reality put forward is the lack of 'independent' eye witness accounts of his crucifixion/ resurrection. Here, one of the most massive events in Italy hardly contains any accounts at all.

    • @colorbugoriginals4457
      @colorbugoriginals4457 Месяц назад +2

      and bigfoot too.

    • @lisaborsella5412
      @lisaborsella5412 Месяц назад

    • @jjm2233
      @jjm2233 Месяц назад +4

      f jesus 😂😂😂

    • @bigreddog502
      @bigreddog502 Месяц назад +1

      May God soften all y'all's hearts. I wish I could give all non believers a walk through my life, hard to deny at that point. But I digress

    • @jjm2233
      @jjm2233 Месяц назад

      @@bigreddog502 lame af ! F ur jesus 🤣🤣🤣

  • @michaelccopelandsr7120
    @michaelccopelandsr7120 Месяц назад +10

    It wasn't the volcano. It was giants causing the smoke and earthquakes. And Medusa wiped out Pompeii. They did her dirty and she got her revenge. With the giants help. They distracted the townsfolk while she slithered through the town. Turning them all to stone.
    ;-P

    • @why67152
      @why67152 Месяц назад +1

      How in the hell can you know this!?!

    • @michaelccopelandsr7120
      @michaelccopelandsr7120 Месяц назад

      @@why67152 Mayhaps, in a previous life, I was there. ;-P

  • @MsBackstager
    @MsBackstager Месяц назад +2

    An interesting area and tour. I loved the "bawdy house" most of all. Curious: it seems that many body fossils were found by the piers of the seashore. Perhaps they were waiting for ships to take them away -- but maybe there weren't enough of them.

  • @carastone3473
    @carastone3473 Месяц назад +2

    I read a story in elementary school called, ‘The Dog of Pompeii;’ that’s how I first learned about it.

  • @debbralehrman5957
    @debbralehrman5957 Месяц назад +2

    Thanks I had not heard of the stories of giants.

  • @track1949
    @track1949 Месяц назад +4

    Re: their teeth. Processed, too sweet food, was unknown to them.

  • @christianhubert2785
    @christianhubert2785 Месяц назад +2

    I love the closing sentences:
    Was it anyones fault?
    No!!!!!
    It was a VOLCANO!!!!
    🤣

  • @thefamouspeopleus
    @thefamouspeopleus Месяц назад +1

    The idea that the locals may have seen 'giants' as plumes of gas from the volcano is fascinating.

  • @retiredboss4831
    @retiredboss4831 Месяц назад +1

    While all we can do is speculate, there seems that Pliny the Elder came to the rescue bysea because, it seemed to have been working. However, with floating pumice, burning ash, fiery lava mortars. falling on overloaded wooden boats, I think it was also unsuccessful. Tremors could trigger killer waves that also could have destroyed these fragile boats and ships.

  • @why67152
    @why67152 Месяц назад +1

    The problem is Pompeii is the only place where a pyroclastic flow turned people into stone... Nowhere else has this been found!!

  • @kaywalters3709
    @kaywalters3709 Месяц назад

    A really interesting video.

  • @sotony7483
    @sotony7483 Месяц назад +2

    Tacitus was an historian but not a Roman Emperor.

  • @misakistalker
    @misakistalker Месяц назад +9

    "pregnant person" it's not like men get pregnant

  • @charlesosbun9381
    @charlesosbun9381 Месяц назад +1

    My mother, R.I.P.,walked in the cauldron at age 12. Her mother lied about mom’s age!

  • @haileybalmer9722
    @haileybalmer9722 Месяц назад +3

    I'm happy to hear you use the proper Greek "Heracles" instead of the Roman "Hercules".

    • @bwtv147
      @bwtv147 Месяц назад

      Why would the Greek hero be in a Roman myth? Yes, I know modern movie & TV producers put Hercules in Greece and make him the son of Zeus instead of Jupiter.

  • @vapormissile
    @vapormissile Месяц назад +1

    Maybe the historical record has been hopelessly compromised.

  • @jamesswan882
    @jamesswan882 Месяц назад

    People still live near volcanoes and other areas prone to natural disasters. Humanity never learns.

  • @bobbiemcgees
    @bobbiemcgees Месяц назад +18

    @ 10:13 a heavily pregnant person? WTF. Was it a pregnant woman or pregnant man?

    • @pjesf
      @pjesf Месяц назад +2

      Probably advanced state of pregnancy aka 3rd trimester

    • @paulyiustravelogue
      @paulyiustravelogue Месяц назад +1

      The next line simply reads “…hinting a heavy pregnant woman…” I guess it was a woman then ,lol.

    • @marianparoo1544
      @marianparoo1544 Месяц назад +5

      I hate that expression. One of the stupidest.

    • @williamharris8367
      @williamharris8367 Месяц назад

      The narrator is stressing that the victim's gender is irrelevant.

    • @SamSung-xz7jt
      @SamSung-xz7jt Месяц назад

      Found the common core learner.

  • @lynnwood7205
    @lynnwood7205 Месяц назад +2

    Perhaps the latin word for giants had a nuance which is not now known.

  • @dbruin85
    @dbruin85 Месяц назад

    Tacitus was an historian, not a Roman emperor. I think you meant Titus, who was Roman emperor in 79 AD.

  • @marcmalfara1250
    @marcmalfara1250 Месяц назад

    Why was the word “poor,” when he said “poor choice, “ censored?

  • @katherineknapp4370
    @katherineknapp4370 Месяц назад +1

    😢

  • @boredpeanutbutter75
    @boredpeanutbutter75 Месяц назад

    Although I have always had an interest in the tragedy of Pompeii, right now, I'm far more interested in whose femur bone is sitting on your shelf???😊

  • @davidchurch3472
    @davidchurch3472 18 дней назад

    You ask why the Pompeiians did not learn the lessons of previous history or make sensible decision to leave a dangerous area. For the same reasons as ever since even to today, when we are just as stupid, presumably ?

  • @hanone-fs4yb
    @hanone-fs4yb Месяц назад

    So with all the free time they had, you don't think they learned to swim like most kids do?

  • @ricagambeda
    @ricagambeda Месяц назад +1

    Um, Tacitus was a historian but NOT a Roman emperor! Duh. Bailed at that point. Cannot take you seriously.

  • @thomasturner6827
    @thomasturner6827 Месяц назад +1

    Not sure how to take this. Your questions can be easily answered with common sense. I go to Vesuvius every year. I hike up the side and walk the rim. We go to Pompeii and study the ruins. So, while it's great you are attempting to shock your viewers. But these are not mysteries sorry bub.

  • @helixator3975
    @helixator3975 Месяц назад

    This type of radio announcer voice automatically makes me doubt whatever they’re saying.

  • @OxAO
    @OxAO Месяц назад

    low levels of fluoride also lowers IQ in children (high levels in everyone)
    Draft State of the Science Monograph and the Draft Meta-Analysis Manuscript on Fluoride
    May 2023

  • @WashYourWorld
    @WashYourWorld Месяц назад

    Pompei was still on maps until 1632 AD, then there was the eruption of 1633 when Pompei was buried. There is a stone stella in a nearby city showing this. It explains how you have pineapples on the ceramics, why everything is in such a pristine condition. History is a lie

  • @kobolds638
    @kobolds638 Месяц назад

    why no one come back to rebuild ?

    • @M.Campbell-Sherwood
      @M.Campbell-Sherwood Месяц назад

      Because the heat and destruction would have made it unlivable for a good while.

  • @PayterX
    @PayterX Месяц назад

    So, are you suggesting that Rome never existed?

  • @BoundyMan
    @BoundyMan Месяц назад +1

    Those who blame the Pompeiians for not leaving need to Remember Harry Truman, not the President of the U.S., who chose not to leave before Mount Saint Hellen erupted.

  • @James-pq7nf
    @James-pq7nf Месяц назад +1

    the only thing that doesn't make sense is WHY those silly people lived near San ACTIVE VILCANO to begin with

    • @marcussinclaire4890
      @marcussinclaire4890 Месяц назад +1

      The areas around volcanoes are very fertile for growing food because of all the minerals that get spewed out of them.

    • @OxAO
      @OxAO Месяц назад

      Popocatépetl volcano. Mexico City? 11 miles away
      Pompeii was 6 miles

  • @philkuhn4073
    @philkuhn4073 Месяц назад

    They were told to fallow the science and didn't want to look stupid

  • @stevensmith8285
    @stevensmith8285 Месяц назад

    More AI garbage

  • @lindakay9552
    @lindakay9552 Месяц назад

    5:24 Mt Mazama eruption in Oregon which created Crater Lake was way more massive than Mt. St. Helen's.

    • @flemwad
      @flemwad Месяц назад

      It wasn't during the US history though..he said during US history

    • @kurules3072
      @kurules3072 Месяц назад

      Ok Mr expert. You should have been in the Tomorrow War as the volcano expert. 🤡

    • @lindakay9552
      @lindakay9552 Месяц назад

      @@flemwad oh right because this continent didn't exist before 1776. 🙄

    • @flemwad
      @flemwad Месяц назад

      @@lindakay9552 The United States didn't. He said in the United States history

    • @lindakay9552
      @lindakay9552 Месяц назад

      @@flemwad over your head, under your feet, and all around

  • @williamharris8367
    @williamharris8367 Месяц назад +1

    10:17 -- "Heavily pregnant person" 😂
    This is an excellent demonstration of gender-neutral language.

    • @buzz5969
      @buzz5969 Месяц назад +1

      Yap unbelievably and sadly idiots think men can get pregnant nowDays…

    • @hsmd4533
      @hsmd4533 Месяц назад

      It’s an excellent demonstration of lack of education