An Honest Review of the Keychron Lemokey P1 Pro
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- Over half a year after reviewing the Lofree Flow, I decided to accept another keyboard review - this time of the Lemokey P1 Pro.
Patreon follow-up post: / 103404910
Link to the kb: www.keychron.com/products/lem...
Note: this is NOT an affiliate link, and I won't earn anything off the sales.
Link to the video where I talk more about my hand wired keyboard: • How I Lost Interest To...
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro for context
1:30 How about you don't buy any new keyboard
2:15 Unboxing
3:23 Included extra gaskets
3:48 Unboxing continued
4:40 First impressions
5:15 Small dents on the bottom
5:25 Keycaps
6:11 Knob first impressions
6:30 Knob is wobbly
6:56 Typing 1
7:15 Thoughts after typing
7:50 Opening the kb + gasket swap
8:55 Typing 2 (after gasket swap)
9:24 Thoughts on the gasket swap
10:00 Scratchy switches
10:50 Force curve and weight, hotswap
11:15 Thoughts on the overall feel
11:37 Layout
12:23 Programmability
13:19 RGB
13:40 Wireless modes + battery
14:15 This kb is a bit harder to use for me
15:30 Conclusion
16:00 Is it worth it?
16:40 Kinda made me curious about other kbs
17:22 Sound comparison
19:05 ぺりぺり
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Video so good we got it twice
1:28 "If you already have a keyboard that you like, how about you don't buy any new keyboard at all, and instead make use of the one that you currently have"
Thank you for saying this! I have been trying to convince friends that are not rich not to throw money away for no reason on products they already have for a long time, and they look at me like I am crazy.
Yes people nowadays are like these despite knowing they are impacting environment with this type of behaviour.
@@only-anime8241 It's the disease of consumerism.
Hell it doesn't matter if you're rich or not, if something is still perfectly functional NEVER and I mean NEVER throw it away.
I'd half-defend this a little by saying that this is a normal thing in any hobby. Some people just like to keep combining new parts simply because they're interested, which is not inherently a harmful thing if you don't resort to stealing. Hobbies are never about what you need, but what you want. Mechanical keyboards encompass a few disciplines like embedded systems, mechanics, product design, etc. so there are a lot of room for experimentation.
@@paulsitt I understand, but I am talking about the behavior of having some money and wanting to spend that money on something to get the thrill out of it. Watching reviews nonstop to get your first device, but then watching more, and more, and wanting to get a bunch of stuff that doesn't even bring you happiness, but the purchase itself would, for a few minutes.
The keycaps are made with an old cherry clone mold- you can tell because the kerning on the shift keys is weird ("shif t"). It's a minor thing, but most reputable keyboards in this price range have solved this already. The other keyboard you showed with the same legends has the correct kerning.
That's interesting to know!
Hey! I bought a lowfree flow one month ago after watching your video (and some others) and it just came in yesterday. It's cool to see that some of the things you criticized, like that bump in the back, are now fixed. I'm really enjoying the keyboard.
Love your videos! Keep it up.
Nice. I recently got V1 Max and installed my preferred Gateron G Pro 3.0 Yellow switches from my older K2 V2. Originally I ordered with Gateron Jupiter Banana switches which I didn't like, think I am more in to linear. Now I have ordered TTC Frozen Silent V2 switches, which should arrive in a weeks time, and am hoping it will make my keyboard much more silent and enjoyable, not just for typing but also for gaming.
As per mods I did the following:
1. Removed the original foam from the board and instead used 4mm Practik Base for vibration/sound dampening (orange) and 5mm STP Biplast sound insulator (black). Both are used in automotive and sound industries.
2. Added Poron switch pads 0.5mm on top of PET sheet
3. Tape mod with 2 layers
4. Added Poron 0.5mm pads under stabs and the stems, and re-lubricated the stabs as well (was thinking of changing them to Durock V2, like I did on my K2 V2, but these stocks look good)
5. Added O-rings between the bottom and the top case where screws go in.
6. Changed to Cherry PBT Double-Shot Dark Blue/Black keycaps set (usually comed with Xinmeng A66 keyboards)
I'll have a Reddit post later on the mod, but for now you can see what I did with my K2 v2 here (www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1com73o/comment/l3gz8f2/?context=3). I am very much satisfied.
Oh Hell yeah, Liva upload. New camera looks good. I genuinely appreciate that you are selective and thorough as you are with your keyboard reviews. It really is a breath of fresh air in this community, even though keyboard content isn't your primary topic of interest.
I'm addicted to watching your keyboard videos, very nice.
Thanks for the upload, Liva, ur videos always make my day
The browser-based mapping software blew me away. I use dual boot (Windows+Linux) and I've been frustrated by HID software countless times.
Any day with an upload from you is a good day!
I really find your videos relaxing. I discovered you through wanting to learn JP and now I've watched all your vids (really liked the renovation series)
I love these thumbnails man
So true
Great video as usual
I love my Keychron Q3 and don’t see myself switching but always fun to hear about what else is out there
seeing a sponsorship from an english company entirely in japanese would be honestly pretty cool to see
keychron is also known for making pretty decent products (esp. for beginners) in the enthusiast scene so it's not surprising that the box was heavy LOL
also, i feel like you'd definitely love switches that are super tactile, idk specifics tho
Nice vid mate
The hhkb will never be beaten
Nice video! Have you thought about trying split keyboard like Keebio Iris?
Love to see the Pro 1 ❤
If you want smooth linear (for now) switches at an affordable price I’d recommend you try out something from HMX as they are regarded to be among the best when it comes to factory lubing. They also have very tight manufacturing tolerances which results in them having very little stem wobble. Most HMX switches lean toward a brighter or more “clacky” sound profile, so if you care about that and are after something deeper or more “thocky” sounding then they might not be for you. Though I’d still say they’re worth giving a try given that they’re relatively inexpensive.
im not even really into keyboards i just love your video style
Also from Keychron there is the Q60 MAX which might be interesting. It has the HHKB layout, some of their new gateron switches and also comes with the same 2.4 GHz capabilities as this, although it is still quite heavy at 1.5 kg.
I love your style.
16:59 can't wait to see the improvement 🧐
I... did not know what a ferrite bead was, damn
With sound edition!!
Great video! 16:46 I think you should try the logitech mx mechanical mini! It's a 75% keyboard, amazing wireless performance and 10 month battery life with backlight turned off!
lmao the sticky keys sound when u press shift 5 times showing the scratchyness
I wonder if you'd enjoy a split ergonomic keyboard like corne or lily58
weve been getting spoiled with the liva content recently 😭
Seems like you already found as close to your perfect as you can get with your hhkb. It's one of those boards that if it works for you then it really works. I've known a few people who have custom keyboards but when it comes down to it always choose their hhkb.
But it's also great that companies like keychron are taking notes from the enthusiast circles and giving people more value for their money. Even if the custom keyboards hobby shrinks back down to its niche pre-covid status companies like keychron have already shown that people want more for their money than plastic cases with rattly stabilizers. At the end of the day having more options is usually a good thing.
If you want a compact and smooth keyboard then try looking at the yunzii al66 or the rainy 75
first upload i had to restart my pc because i thought my audio wasn't working lmao, now i realised it was just the video
i recently bought my first mechanical keyboard not too long ago and ive had it for about 2 or three weeks now. Its called the Epomaker x Aula F75 keyboard, and it basically has the same layout that you edited onto the keychron.
I got curious after watching your keyboard video a year ago, and its been in the back of my mind ssince. though, I probably wont really get into keyboards that much cause honestly, i dont really see a reason to get more than one. i might look into fun custom keycaps, the ones peopl turn into cats and such. it just seems really fun :)
anyways, good video as always!
oh also! im glad you are still drawing :)
I think you would really like Nuphy Air keyboards. They're similar to Lofree Flow in form factor, but have better build quality and switches and they're somehow cheaper as well. Nuphy Air V2 also finally supports QMK/VIA, so it's extremely programmable on all platforms
Never stop with the Doge thumbnails
I bought the barebone kit, the non pro version, cause I don't really care about wireless and I'm definitely not planning to move around with a keeb this heavy xD
Can't wait for it to arrive
Sounds like you might like the HHKB Hybrid (topre). Or, maybe worth checking out the new HHKB Studio (MX).
I also kee going back to Topre. My favoritr MX is Gateron Oil Kings.
12:09 In terms of practicality.. which one do you mean?
Carrying around? Yeah.
Typing? The more keys on a board, the easier it is for hands to find positions with exploded design.
From my perspective, more keys doesn't always mean its easier or more practical. For example, the HHKB doesn't even have arrow keys, yet most of the time, when navigating through letters or words in text, its much easier to use the FN + [;'/ arrow key cluster on the HHKB than to move your hand off the home row to the arrow key cluster, and then back to the home row just to press an arrow key once.
The same goes for Fn + Number keys being F keys etc, because its all within reach without having to excessively move your hand, once you get used to it.
Maybe you should try the Keychron Q60 Max. It has the EXACT HHKB layout, AND a METAL CASE.
R.I.P kabochan
Salute 🫡 to you for not encouraging consumerism.
If you want smooth MX switches you're probably gonna have to hand lube them which takes a lot of time and is pretty delicate, factory lubed switches stop being as smooth after around a week of daily use in my experience, though I've noticed tactile switches tend to not really be as bad as linears when it comes to scratchiness
How did you even get more ad offers after the honest review?
7:04 I've never seen that many veins on someones hands. its weirdly scary lol
Do you think the modern Realforce keyboards are as good as your HHKB? I am interested in Topre but cannot live without real arrow keys or a Function row
Its hard to tell, I briefly tried a few Topre Realforces in a store and the domes didn't feel as tactile as my HHKB. Not sure if its because the domes of my old HHKB might have stiffened and therefore gotten more tactile, or if all HHKBs are like that.
I'm not sure if they were the 45g ones or the variable ones in the Realforce as I forgot to check, but the 55g dome version might be even more tactile, and you can always get BKE domes that can be used even on "fake" topre keyboards to make them feel more tactile.
The HHKB uses plate mounting though, making the overall feel still slightly different, but it depends from person to person at the end of the day.
17:00 where can i get that notebook? or what's its name?
"Sakura Black sketchbook 21x29,7cm"
@@VeeZzz123 actually goated for finding it yourself and coming back to let everyone else know who might also be curious
Try Nuphy Air60 v2 (it comes with 2,4ghz dongle) very low latency
What kind of accent ads extra vowels?
I am glad the market is being inflated with loads of new products because it is driving prices down to the point people can afford the hobby. also it means that companies need to work harder to get your dollars. scratch is something that is weirdly sought after in cherry switches(the brand not the switch style). that I'm sure keychron is trying to emulate. to say it is a contentious issue would be putting it mildly. it does indeed get much smoother though and that's the way the industry is headed even if the fan boys covet their vintage cherry blacks.
I've never heard anyone say that the scratchiness of the original Cherry MX switches is sought after lol, I remember that being the main reason everyone was abandoning genuine Cherry switches for the clones that started appearing once their patent expired.
If people search for scratchiness then some old Black Alps switches would be a goldmine.
Vintage blacks are a special case in the sense that they supposedly were made out of a different, more expensive material that made them smoother, though others argue that perhaps its just wear and tear over the years.
I saw that.
First reaction: 重っ 😂
I guess this one is with audio
do you plan on fixing up the basement of the soviet store?
Eventually if there's some good reason for it, yeah
bruh, they stole the color pallet from the Machenike K500-94B :/
That colorway is "Hyperfuse." GMK came out with it in like 2015
review a split keyboard.
Where’s Linux part 2?
Its a video that's going to take a really long time to make, meaning I'd have to delay other videos or sacrifice a few ones during my limited stay in Japan, so its a bit of a tricky one, but I'd still like to get it done this year.
where is linux video 🤔love ya
Coming this year hopefully!
@@Livakivi pls try fedora 40 or bazzite at least? it'd be solving a lot of ur issues
Do you plan to learn any other language and maybe making some content about it?
Reupload?
First one didn't have audio. It was up for only a minute
@@ramielthe5thangel532 Ahh ok I only saw the notif
Hi liva
Hi
I was first the first time around...
Wdym Keychron clone
This keyboard is very weird. It’s like they made the q1 Less worth it and trying to cover it up with gaming. This keyboard is very weird. 🙃🙂
Title is grammatically inaccurate 😡😡😡