A better use for wings of light is to further pressure an approach rather than damage, like forcing someone to take a risky air approach or risk wings of light popping.
Yeah seems like the best use is to lock a low hp opponent into a check situation. You force more pressure onto them to act before the wings raise up. And, If they attack you, you can block it and it still charges as long as you block, right?
@ I still think that’s its best use, but thank you for the clarification it’ll still spook them since it would leave them at east chip damage death. Do you have a better idea for wings of light’s best use? Obviously it’s not the only use. Honestly I wish jt was replaced with a more fun special.
@@Ferrari255GTO I think of it as a time limit in a boss fight. You can take it slow but when you have opportunities you need to take them or you get punished
@@novainfinite787because literally 96% of strive fans have never played the older games and they just parrot everything everyone else says just like the rest of the fgc. (I haven’t played the old games either btw I was just making a point bc these parrots irritate me everywhere)
i agree on the wings of light, its not going to be your game plan every time but its a way of rewarding a slow and methodical playstyle without just making the win condition "stall to timeout". and the threat of it is scary enough it means you will feel the need to do more than just FD blocking it
@@keithlee1007 If you rensen into delayed cherry (assuming you hit with rensen) it’ll pop the opponent high enough to immediately do another rensen into cherry. It does quite a bit of health, and you can either do this or cancel into one vision for a big combo.
The real terror isn't Dizzy as a zoner-it's when she's played like the setplay character she _truly_ is. I love that they really emphasized that aspect of her this time. :D Spam the screen with projectiles, then run in and destroy
Things to note: imperial ray has a large initial hitbox so she can use it to wall break early from deceptive range Additionally, if imperial ray is blocked or she whiffs it, the rest of the move doesnt happen
@ not my point; Dizzy has always been a Queen (of Oki). Calling her a zoner is in a way, incorrect, because her gameplan has never been to play keepout. Her zoning, which was even stronger in other games, is weaker than dedicated zoners because she wasn’t built for that. She was made to outspeed the opponent, get a knockdown, then abuse them with Oki.
Im gonna be honest i had finally uninstalled strive after a long time of not being able find a character that i genuinely enjoy, But Dizzy is different than everyone ive tried, I actually have the drive to get good now.
A funny thing someone found with slayer is that you can block H Ice, dash and then loop 5p into 5p into 5p 5p into 5p into 5p 5p into 5p into 5p 5p into 5p into 5p 5p into 5p into 5p 5p into 5p into 5p I am hapi :)
Talking about the S4 changes, specifically for Pot, my gut reaction is that the changes are actually pretty good, even if losing Kara sucks. Pot Buster’s range is HUGE and Blue WA lowkey lets you combo into it
fun fact: dizzy's 100% overdrive, only had invincibility on start-up, so after the cutscene, she can still be hit by things and have her attack get cancelled my friend is a dizzy main she was not happy about my stray projectiles
As a ghost main, she isn’t a problem. All I gotta do is rely on my ghost jab, feint when she tries to PD Fish and land ults by chipping away at her shield health.
@@Leffreywhat character isn't stupid with 2 bars of meter, though? Besides, ice at 2 meter is probably not going to happen much with how strong meter is
"She is THE most zoner type character since Axl. It can be argued that several members of the cast, prefer to stay away from you - however, this character, ABSOLUTELY... THRIVES... AT IT! She wants to keep you at the other end of the screen... and pelt you with random shit, in order to get a win!" PERFECT! I LOVE HER ALREADY 😍😂
Okay, but you didn't mention jump D, which is like, one of her best fireballs imo. It's a jump-cancelable fireball, controls lots of space. Stays up for a bit, and makes jump ins/air approaches impossible. If you use it next to the ground, you can block grounded approaches too and still avoid the longer recovery of some of her other fireballs
i dont know if it is just me but i wish someoone could help me. Wings of light got patched or something because when i use them they dont deal damage on their own and only when i have to attack them
Its crazy how daisuke is like a diety, when we ask for something we get it, and when we get angry about something in the game, instead of returning that anger back, he just returns it with more humbleness, it makes us feel bad about our own anger, makes us better ourselves, it could be much worse, daisuke, arc system works and NAOKI are my guardian angels, my enchanted golden apple, my dragon install, my get out of jail free card, my totsugeki, yes, perfection encapsulated in a game and its creators.
I am a rushdown player, but i really like axl and dizzy, so, what do i do? Just ignore their gameplan and disadvantages and pretend they are a rushdown, i will not play a zoner even if the character is a dedicated zoner
I just don't see it with wings of light. Every character can mess you up with full tension, and you usually don't have to wait 10 seconds to do it. I think Dizzy is pretty much always better off doing.... Literally anything else with her meter
This version of Dizzy is probably the weakest and most gutted version of her. As someone who played her in both +R and Xrd, she feels really bad in this game. It's like a highly oversimplified version of her with extremely nerfed damage, combo potential, and creativity.
I might be the only person who thinks this, but I am kind of underwhelmed by her. Her zoning is decent at best, and she feels really clunky, and if you get in she kind of just dies. All of this could just be due to Bedman? (who I play) having far better zoning than her, and having really wierd air movement that can get around her quite well. (I am fully expecting a crazy technique within the week to make her absurdly powerful, therefore retracting my former statement)
That's because she's not a zoner. 😂 She's setplay. The fish are there to give you cover while you rush in (which is why they have that weird attack pattern), and her ice spikes are best when cancelled into.
the opening narration is just how people talked about dizzy in universe in x and shes just over there picking flowers
Right?!?
Sorry guys it’s me I’m the beast please just let me in I’m really cold out here
Okay fine, I have a warm turkey on the table if you want some!
I would let you in but you aren't "hot" enough hahahaha
Nuh uh, you’re being blamed
nah, i think im just gonna blame you instead
I'm society and I'm blaming you
A better use for wings of light is to further pressure an approach rather than damage, like forcing someone to take a risky air approach or risk wings of light popping.
Aka you can now stand there menacingly!
Shout out to psychological terror tactics, absolutely one of my favorite genres of fighting game move.
you can also deactivate WoL at anytime by inputting the WoL command again
I think Wings of Light is designed to open up opponents who are playing overly passive.
Yeah seems like the best use is to lock a low hp opponent into a check situation. You force more pressure onto them to act before the wings raise up. And, If they attack you, you can block it and it still charges as long as you block, right?
@@TheSweetSpiritI wouldn't say low HP oponetns since wings of light can't kill . It will just leave you with 1 HP like bloodrage
@ I still think that’s its best use, but thank you for the clarification it’ll still spook them since it would leave them at east chip damage death. Do you have a better idea for wings of light’s best use? Obviously it’s not the only use.
Honestly I wish jt was replaced with a more fun special.
Wich is unfair when the character both zones and pressures CONSTANTLY.
@@Ferrari255GTO I think of it as a time limit in a boss fight. You can take it slow but when you have opportunities you need to take them or you get punished
my 2 3 6 K is for roasting chestnuts that's great to know but what's the move called??
Its for roasting chestnuts
It started as a light
It’s for roasting chestnuts
After all this time of asking for dizzy, I humbly apologize and wish for forgiveness.
You've brought this upon yourself
i swear this happens with every new character
You were correct
@@novainfinite787because literally 96% of strive fans have never played the older games and they just parrot everything everyone else says just like the rest of the fgc. (I haven’t played the old games either btw I was just making a point bc these parrots irritate me everywhere)
Your sins must be cleansed
i agree on the wings of light, its not going to be your game plan every time but its a way of rewarding a slow and methodical playstyle without just making the win condition "stall to timeout". and the threat of it is scary enough it means you will feel the need to do more than just FD blocking it
After having my dear son axl assassinated, i run to find solace in our queen
What do you mean he’s assinanted? He can now combo rensen into itself 💀
@Nemesis85040 wdym? Like rensen cherry rensen? Not even very useful anyways
@@keithlee1007Does a lot of damage. He’s mostly the same anyway, save for some situations with Rainwater.
@@moraviancrusader3741 could u give an example of that kinda combo route?
@@keithlee1007 If you rensen into delayed cherry (assuming you hit with rensen) it’ll pop the opponent high enough to immediately do another rensen into cherry. It does quite a bit of health, and you can either do this or cancel into one vision for a big combo.
Good sir, with that intro, i can tell youre in a bloodborne mood, remember, a hunter must hunt
The real terror isn't Dizzy as a zoner-it's when she's played like the setplay character she _truly_ is. I love that they really emphasized that aspect of her this time. :D
Spam the screen with projectiles, then run in and destroy
Things to note: imperial ray has a large initial hitbox so she can use it to wall break early from deceptive range
Additionally, if imperial ray is blocked or she whiffs it, the rest of the move doesnt happen
Dizzy is so cool i dont even mind getting slapped around by her cool ass animations
I just wanna say that Dizzy might just have the coolest reversal super i've seen.
"...or are you just hesitating because YOUR GIRL'S A MONSTER, TOO?!"
"Yes."
(As a Ky main, I am afraid for my life.)
I like your fish... Anyway MAPPAHUNCH
Slayers stay winning 🔥
Instead of reflecting on this, i will blame the beast.
I feel like calling Dizzy a zoner should be illegal because of how oppressive her oki is
She's a DLC character at launch in an arcsys game, did you expect her to be balanced?
@ not my point; Dizzy has always been a Queen (of Oki). Calling her a zoner is in a way, incorrect, because her gameplan has never been to play keepout. Her zoning, which was even stronger in other games, is weaker than dedicated zoners because she wasn’t built for that. She was made to outspeed the opponent, get a knockdown, then abuse them with Oki.
They really said should we play test season 4 before release and Arcsys said nah.
Im gonna be honest i had finally uninstalled strive after a long time of not being able find a character that i genuinely enjoy, But Dizzy is different than everyone ive tried, I actually have the drive to get good now.
funny thing about the ice floor, if you do ice pillar and just hold forward + S/H it will still preform the action.
A funny thing someone found with slayer is that you can block H Ice, dash and then loop 5p into 5p into 5p 5p into 5p into 5p 5p into 5p into 5p 5p into 5p into 5p 5p into 5p into 5p 5p into 5p into 5p
I am hapi :)
optimal punish game right here
Reminds me of mashing Pot's 2P when tethered to Baiken
You can dandy step on it and get a fullscreen pilebunker loop lmao
Talking about the S4 changes, specifically for Pot, my gut reaction is that the changes are actually pretty good, even if losing Kara sucks. Pot Buster’s range is HUGE and Blue WA lowkey lets you combo into it
He's Gekking Out!
Love the bloodborne intro music
fun fact: dizzy's 100% overdrive, only had invincibility on start-up, so after the cutscene, she can still be hit by things and have her attack get cancelled
my friend is a dizzy main
she was not happy about my stray projectiles
Bro, I haven't even been able to download the patch yet!
I am having very funny times in ggst with leo rn especially after the stance buffs
The russianbadger flavor gs goes hard
Already?!?! It's been hours!!!
4:09 me after a new character gets revealed:
Finally a character that takes more than 2 brain cells to play
this character is beyond terrifying
and i love it
Well I let the beast inside and now I'm in celestial, seems like a decent deal to me.
Me after this balance patch "you must prepare yourself for the worst" "a hunter must hunt afterall"
2:31 Thats not a simple Ice pilar, thats a completly Iceberg xD
Dizzy is like a control deck on card games, just stall and put the opponent on a countdown.
Love you gekko! I play milliaa
As a ghost main, she isn’t a problem. All I gotta do is rely on my ghost jab, feint when she tries to PD Fish and land ults by chipping away at her shield health.
high fish low fish chestnuts ice pillar from fullscreen 🔥
She doesn’t seem too overpowered from what i’ve seen
Idk, fullscreen freeze into Gamma Ray is a little stupid, but aside from that it is just learning the matchup against an oppressive zoner
Its day 1 of her being in the game, she's not going to have her best showings unless she's disgustingly op at the mid level.
@@Leffreywhat character isn't stupid with 2 bars of meter, though? Besides, ice at 2 meter is probably not going to happen much with how strong meter is
Ice physics in a fighting game? That's wild
Freeze spam. And it'll never change. We will always strive futilely
2 words, Light Wings xD
Hahaha that funny sword move is so funny
at this point, who DON'T we need to talk about, GEKKOSQUIRREL? ANSWER ME!!!
I can't believe I got an ad during the intro... 💀
Dude, your intro is amazing. 😂😂😂❤❤❤
Also we need to talk about goldlewis because I’m currently enjoying 4 tapping chip with behemoth typhoon
No need to survive the night. I AM the night.
I love how Dizzy released on Halloween and not Jack-o
jokes one you bup, EVERYONE is rushdown in Guilty Gear!
Opening segment took waaay too long
actually only the last hit from the freeze needs to hit in order to freeze
I got guilty gear today and have already fought dizzy more than every other character and good lord she is untouchable
Dizzy players after instinctually setting up ice floor against a Potemkin:
I'm hearing Ape Escape but did I hear FF7 in the beginning?
As a former justice main, i just failed NNN
That's cool she learned to use her mom's sword.
"She is THE most zoner type character since Axl. It can be argued that several members of the cast, prefer to stay away from you - however, this character, ABSOLUTELY... THRIVES... AT IT!
She wants to keep you at the other end of the screen... and pelt you with random shit, in order to get a win!"
PERFECT! I LOVE HER ALREADY 😍😂
It's cool that she uses this to catch fish and that for roasting chestnuts but like what are there names tho?
Unfortunately not fully my own joke
I love the fact that they nerf powerful characters just to add another broken character.
Okay, but you didn't mention jump D, which is like, one of her best fireballs imo.
It's a jump-cancelable fireball, controls lots of space. Stays up for a bit, and makes jump ins/air approaches impossible. If you use it next to the ground, you can block grounded approaches too and still avoid the longer recovery of some of her other fireballs
W intro
RIP transformed nago. I avoided it anyways but still...
Lore-accurate Dizzy
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING
Zoning is awesome and Dizzy is awesome, I won’t be hearing otherwise
Yes, Dizzy is the best gg girl ever!
4:09 me when I saw dizzy for the first time
wait she's WHAT years old?!
If this is okay then people wont complain about Raven when he gets into strive🎉
How did ky bag such a demon
I miss her double dash.
I'm not gonna avoid my opponent, I'm gonna play her the same way I play Axl and play agressive and in your face.
Love Dizz
The only thing I dislike about this iteration of Dizzy is that he air mobility is... normal. Despite the fact that she has wings. It makes no sense.
Pot feels like crap to play now :(
Wait she’s a zoner? I was using her as a rush down.
She works as both to be honest
She's a setplay, her projectiles are for protection and the freeze state is intended to help close the distance
She's okay at zoning
Me still praying for raven-
I love how this video started with a minute and a half of light hearted anti gear racism
Gamma Ray used to give her a "buff". I consider this a massive downgrade.
Jokes aside, her model and animation is amazing.
Never played GG. Dizzy is and always will be a queen
Based Firefly pfp
It's a good time to start playing
@@Polengue"But sir, i have 0 knowledge of fighting games but Smash Bros!"
@@rodrick117Based Silverwolf pfp
Also she has crazy jD RC setups
You can tell he played a bunch of Bloodborne
Honestly fighting dizzy with your head turned off is not the play ive confirmed that
Tell me ur a badger fan without saying anything:
Guacamole gamer fart 9000
I play jacko and 6H destroys udine and necro that hitbox crazy
i dont know if it is just me but i wish someoone could help me. Wings of light got patched or something because when i use them they dont deal damage on their own and only when i have to attack them
Don't accept matches againts Dizzy. Got it.
So patience then unga bunga got it
Strive player tears, yum
I think they are going to patch again soon
Alot of her moves dont require mana either it seems. Her meter isnt moving.
Yay a new gekko squirrel vid. Why do I have 20 likes
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Its crazy how daisuke is like a diety, when we ask for something we get it, and when we get angry about something in the game, instead of returning that anger back, he just returns it with more humbleness, it makes us feel bad about our own anger, makes us better ourselves, it could be much worse, daisuke, arc system works and NAOKI are my guardian angels, my enchanted golden apple, my dragon install, my get out of jail free card, my totsugeki, yes, perfection encapsulated in a game and its creators.
You have Stockholm syndrome this patch wack as shit
@Anticssc Crazy how i didnt ask
@@Anticssc yeah and 90% of the game is better for it (sorry potemkin)
@@ArcDemon74096while the damage tone down is good some overall character reworks weren’t necessary
@@nigelblacknall888 i would agree it depends on the character but i would say 90% of the reworks were good
Fish!
Dizzy can do no wrong she is perfectly balanced
Unfortunately for Dizzy zoning isn't very good in Strive.
I am a rushdown player, but i really like axl and dizzy, so, what do i do? Just ignore their gameplan and disadvantages and pretend they are a rushdown, i will not play a zoner even if the character is a dedicated zoner
I just don't see it with wings of light. Every character can mess you up with full tension, and you usually don't have to wait 10 seconds to do it. I think Dizzy is pretty much always better off doing.... Literally anything else with her meter
Also landing freeze with full tension means immediate Gamma Ray, which will do comparable damage and can kill/wallbreak.
This version of Dizzy is probably the weakest and most gutted version of her. As someone who played her in both +R and Xrd, she feels really bad in this game. It's like a highly oversimplified version of her with extremely nerfed damage, combo potential, and creativity.
I might be the only person who thinks this, but I am kind of underwhelmed by her. Her zoning is decent at best, and she feels really clunky, and if you get in she kind of just dies. All of this could just be due to Bedman? (who I play) having far better zoning than her, and having really wierd air movement that can get around her quite well.
(I am fully expecting a crazy technique within the week to make her absurdly powerful, therefore retracting my former statement)
That's because she's not a zoner. 😂 She's setplay. The fish are there to give you cover while you rush in (which is why they have that weird attack pattern), and her ice spikes are best when cancelled into.