Overall strongest: Brutii, that much is beyond dispute, nothing in this game can defeat urban cohorts, its simply not doable unless you play against the dumb ai that runs full frontal into elite phalanx and keeps still for the massive cav charge required to even dent these guys. Best allrounders: Seleucids, they combine basically everything and only lack elite archers for the complete package. Best ambushes: Gauls, their forest hunters are freaking deadly in forest ambushes, more so than any other unit. Best shock tactics: Germans. They combine far more shock units into one army than any other faction, only absolute elite units can dream of standing their ground against an army that uses all at once. Best underdogs: Numidia, a faction so ridiculously bad you just gotta root for them a little bit.
Yeah that's just not true. The Seleucids have one of the best unit rosters, and one of the best expansion opportunities of any factions, but they require a lot of skill and luck to survive in the early game. If you don't play them, the Seleucids are always one of the first factions to go, because all their neighbors hate them. I can imagine your argument, but I do disagree. The Brutii have an overpowered unit roster, can and will expand to the rich Greek lands and even a newbie can achieve total victory with them. The Brutii are never ever in the danger of being wiped out, whereas the Seleucids are in serious danger of being wiped out.
@@LordGadwin What exactly do you mean by this if I may ask? Because if your argument is that you are owning the AI Brutii, I'm sad to say that doesn't matter at all, in my opinion. You should always make quick work of the Roman factions, especially the Brutii, if you're playing a Greek faction. We should try to base this 'best faction' judgement on neutral circumstances, and leave all human player involvement out of it.
Indeed, I once did a Seleucid empire campaign and got dogpilled by Egypt, Pontus, Armenia ,Parthya early and later on the greeks and Scythia while I was still dealing with Egypt and Pontus, To this day I don't know how were Pontus able to field so many armies one after another but the fact that Egypt, Pontus, Parthya and Armenia were allies and only had me as an enemy might have had something to do with it. At the end of my stomp on all Egyptians and the Smashing of Armenia in 3 Turns I was overextended as fuck, the Parthians still had one city that was too far from my reach and the Schytians and greeks decided to join in the fun... Yes the Seleucids are savage to play, you're constantly attacked by ALL your neighbours and they're strong ones too. Now Macedon, that was a fun playthrough, Managed to conquer Rome and kill off SPQR ,The Julli and the Brutii before the first set of reforms and the only reason the Scitii survived for longer was because they managed to hole up in their african territories and that the Egyptians were again proving a nuisance. They also thought me that the Greek cities are cunts, I even became their protectorate once during that session and the damn backstabbing bastards tried to Conquer me again.
You can prevent early attacks on Seleucids by draining all the money from your neighbours with a diplomacy and recruit your own army on the same money to attack Egypt, pillaging their cities to recruit next army, attacking Pontus and so on. Just don't waste your money to defend and develop tiny settlements - let AI do that if they capture it.
I was able to keep everything together in my very hard Seleucid campaign, i didint lode a single settlement however it was a sluggish process because of the countless enemies
@@maddengawd5773 Really? I was in your situation, but with the help of the cavallery i didn't find too difficoult deal with the Romans... shuerely wasn't easy, but they didn't kick my quit often
This, in multiplayer campaign people rush pick selucids and lose first because their units are bad in the early stages of the game. Egypt (and parthia etc.) can use those cheap bowmen/archers to shoot shit out of pikemen.
That’s right,but if you rush Alexandria or Memphis,you can easily overpower the Egyptians,make sure they are who you attack first,then the parthians,then whoever is next.
Seleucids are very strong. All units have good use. Keep a strong and low cost army of archers, pikemen, cavalry and chariots in towns to fight against rebels. For fast conquest; 1. use an army of 5 armored elephants [charge first & break enemy formation] 10 cataphract [charge second and make remaining armies rout] and 5 companion cavalry [charge last and kill fleeing troops. They end huge battles very quickly even when greatly outnumbered. This army takes out anything in the field. 2. use army of 10 silvershield legionaries to take walls, 9 silvershield pikemen to take tight streets in phalanx formation, 1 general to keep morale. This is one of the strongest builds to take towns. #1 army is all cavalry so they move across map quickly and take out anything big out of the walls. #2 makes its way through slowly but takes towns efficiently
Recently, I was playing as the Seleucids on very hard difficulty just for the hell of it. Mind you, this was my first time playing on very hard difficulty and let me tell you, it's unbelievable. Usually I'd play on medium but then I stepped up my game so I could improve. I must say, it is as the difficulty says, HARD. The Egyptians want a piece of me, my Pontic and Parthian allies betrayed me, the Armenians went on the action too, then my former friends the Greek City-States attacked as well. I managed to beat up and absolutely destroy the Egyptians, the Pontics, almost all of the Parthians, soon the Armenians, and the City-States, all WITHOUT ANY OF THEM TAKING AWAY MY TERRITORIES. (I wish I was joking, but I managed to keep all my cities intact and take new lands for the empire.) And guess what? The Romans arrived. By boat. The Brutii landed near Halicarnassus and lay siege on the settlement, pinning down my forces there. And for some reason, they didn't even take the entirety of the Greek Peninsula! They just went straight towards me! ME! What the hell!? They didn't take Sparta or any of the Macedonian lands, they just went to me for some reason! How the fu-!?
Here’s some tips, the first faction you attack will be Egypt,rush Alexandria or Memphis first thing,that will help a lot since Alexandria has their faction leader and Memphis has the pyramids to help with loyalty,then blitz the rest of Egypt.BTW never ally with Parthia,they’ll always betray you. ally with Armenia,go after Parthia if they pose a threat,then after that go after Armenia,and then do whatever you want from there.
Brutii got in fact a way stronger roaster with inflated units stats, and are paid to conquers the best region in the game. They ARE the best faction in the game by a large margin. Egyptians are 2nd because you can just stomps all their competition since they only have one neighburg that is seleucid, who have like 5 main factions as ennemy with every body hating them, a very weak early roaster that need times to upgrade and a bad starting economy Im talking full autobattle curbstomp winning here even at max difficulty Seleucid is actually one of the hardest faction in the game and the 2nd worst normal playable faction behind Partia. (Not all faction are playable if you dont mess with the game folder)
The Seleucid start is not too bad. Levy pikemen smash Egypt's nile spearmen and nubian infantry. Plus you get the powerful scythed chariots early if you build a blacksmith. I usually play it defensively in Seleucia and offensively with Egypt until I can recruit phalanx pikemen and cataphracts. Money stockpiles quickly once you take Halicarnassus and Salamis
Parthia is actually pretty easy to defeat if you get a ton of spearmen,archers and heavy cavalry. Of which that’s what the Seleucids,Greece and Macedon have.
@@exiledzeta AI Parthia is easy to defeat but what can spearmen and archers do against persian cavalry?! Heavy cavalry? Parthia got heavy catafracts which will mace it down in no time.
I agree. Build barracks, blacksmith, temple of Hephaestus and their upgrades first of all. Keep your phallanxes together in double line. Use the cataphracts
My strategy at very hard level: Seleucids, phalanx in the centre, archers in front with catapults. you decimate roman legions with range units. Then, phalanxes vs legions. Protect phalanxes sides with silver shields, and use cavalry to flank roman legions.
The seleucids may have the best roster for the late game... but at the start of the campaign you get trash units and you are surrounded by enemies..... I think the best faction is the Brutii because you get to take Greece wich is the richest place in the game
Ya I pretty much agree with you. I've been thinking about remaking this video for a while now because of that. If you can survive the early game though, the Seleucids are a powerhouse
Hay man. Just seen ya videos and really liked them. Ive been playing the game for a long time and yet not knowing how to keep ppl happy etc and ive always used the greeks.
Try building some more buildings so they are happy about new stuff,try the romans since they are easier than the Greeks as Greece can get blitzed by Brutii early game.
Playing it in very hard.i got stuck with roman empire now, but due to some of your tips from other vids i am crushing them. Early game was a party, tried to be in good terms with my neighbors, but one after another they tried to finish me real quick. Hahahah
I agree with the Seleucids. They are the best faction because of their wide variety of units. they have every kind of cavalry, a wide selection of phalanx, armored swordsmen (legionaries), scythed chariots, onagers, and every kind of elephant. The only thing they don’t have is the upgraded archers. Now, I would have to disagree about the Romans. In my book, Germania beats them out and just misses the top spot to the Seleucids. Why? The germanians have a good selection of units. They have phalanx, great axe men, upgraded archers, great cavalry. And they have the berserkers, the most OP thing I have ever seen in a video game. Even the armored Elephants will lose to the berserkers. So why do the Seleucids win? Variety and armor. Germania units just don’t wear armor. As such, they are vulnerable. Also, Germania doesn’t have the chariots or Elephants. True, berserkers will destroy both, they are not armored and are quite vulnerable to archers.
I don't know about the Seleucid but both the Scipii (who can rush Greece away from Brutii) AND the Greek States (early Armored Hoplites) are a better play AND with better temples
I think he was talking in a neutral comparasion based on the economy of the regions and how much territory the nations begin with and how good are the troops. So if we look in this way Seleucid are shurely one of the bests factions... if we talk in more specific way, the selucids are one of the bests in the late game, but one of the worst in the early game, not for the army, but because they are sourranded by a lot of hostile factions like Egypt, Greeks, Armenia and Ponti... If we look only the army then is one of the bests... It's true greeks can do fastly the oplites one of the bests starting unit of the whole game, but in a short time if you have done well amministration you can do phalanks pikeman in lot of your territory and it is even better then the opplites... the problems of the greeks army it is the cavallery, the Seleucids in the other side have one of the bests with cataphrat and companion cavallery... I think if we look only the army Seleucids are equal to Romans, with a little bit more versatily on the cavallery side and little bit less on the infantry side.
@@senzanome6702 The most overpowered unit in the game in relation to its campaign value is the standard legion (not the early, neither the urban or pretorian). However, the armored hoplites are available within 5 turns from Sparta, also take 1 turn to recruit, and are perhaps 75% of the value of a legion unit. I played a game where I took Rome within 25 turns using a full roster of armored hoplites (obviously recruited from a couple of cities) and of course I quit after that as I had basically had no difficulties left - I had much of the best regions on the map and an unstoppable army ready to get replenished from multiple cities and conquer the world. Meanwhile, it takes some 25-30 turns to even reach legionaries in the remastered game since you can no longer channel where the slaves go.
@@Dan-uf2vh If you want a fast campain then yes, Greeks, Rome, but also Cartaghe are ones of the bests choices, this because with this factions you can rush, but in hard mode it is not impossible, but rushing is harder. With Seleucids it's true it is hard to grow quickly, but you can easly deal with armored oplites, their not a particoulary graet threat, shurely are really strong in the early game, but nothing to be so afraid... then obviously if the selucids have the leavy pikeman it is an easy win for a greeks with the armored oplite, but in three turn in Antioch you can have Phalanks Pikeman (also 1 turn for the recruitmen) and you can deal with the armored oplites. In more or less 25 turns you can have this troupes in a lot of seleucids cities. Romans hardly will arrive in Turkey in the early game amd if they did they have Hastati or principes and so you can deal with phalanks pikeman and yes triari are a good trupes but not against a phalanks. And if they come to fight seleucids with legionaries and similar, if you have made everything fine you will have preatty much everything, cataphrat, armored elephant, silver shield pikeman, silver shield legionaries and so you can easly deal with roman also in late game. Greeks instead they will deal with romans, but it will be more hard because they don't have good cavallery, only the late general bodyguard is good, but the late roman army have not particoulary issue against the phalanks. Of course spartan opplite will do massive damage, but armored opplite even if they will continue to be good, they won't be good as before. So what are you saiyng isn't wrong, but depends also wich is your style, wich difficoulty you play and when you fight a faction.
Scythia is definitely the best. The horse archers are crazy overpowered and can just stomp through Greece and macedon from the start and build a huge economy pretty quick.
Ethan FENTON i use cavalries too. but only roman general cavalries or parthian general cavalries. and i use spies on sieges. easy win. even against phalanxes attack from rears and behind. you will win every battle without losing men. game is not funny anymore.
Is this a guide for late game only? It also seems like you forgot about the enemies around them. Most games I play as them I'm at war with every one of my neighbors within 5 turns. After that 1 of 2 things happen first being that I move all my troops to the eastern Anatolia or secondly get wiped out. Honestly the Brutii are better and even the Egyptians are 2 legs up.
Those are a ok Empire to be with. But I like the Greek city states more. They have a fight on almost four fronts to fight on.i have taken on all fronts and won
scipii are best roman faction better warships and they have weapon n' armour upgrades through temples...brutii best for ££££ ow and scipii have the best gladiatorial infantry
At the end Seleucid are the strongest faction. Have good pikemen for dealing with cavalry or hoplites. Cataphract owns archers better than anything. Their only weakness is weak archers but at least they have archers. Rome has no answer against armored elephant/cataphract/companion cavalry formation.
ok but the upkeep is through the roof by the end you have what silver shields over 300 upkeep so instead you get levy pikeman...also no dogs does nobody use dogs correctly im the germans n all you need is 6/7 dog units n chosen archers let loose the dogs and they hold enemy in place or break the enemy....germans have gothic cav, better than companion...berserkers, long distance archers, n dogs dawg...theres a reason why the seleucids always get curb stomped by the ai in every campaign
you can do this with the sulucids aswell i took a boat from antioch on turn 2, you take all your jav cav you start out with and take a boat and recruit cretans ect from kydonia. then storm the brutii and remove them as a faction same thing with the scipii then leave julii to get the marian reforms so you can upgrade your generals.
but if you do this too late it'll be a lot harder, no ships will attack you if you do it from turn 2 the rebels dont get ships till around turn 7 or 8 dont quote me.
If you know how to be an asshole, you can easily defend cities with a small stack of militia hoplites. I will say, however, it makes the opening stages of the game very boring. Regardless, making your nation with a strong economy rely on the cheapest thing in town, you can really rake in the cash and get to those wonderfully diverse units quicker than you think
@@willnash7907 I don't think you know how to play like an asshole then. make a V shape with 2 units where they break the wall or gate and they walk right in and die. I only ever play on very hard, so I'm certain it works
@@TheLiam14141 Tier 1 and probably also Tier 2 pikes are too short and too low damage to kill light infantry at pace in v.hard so they mass and break through the phalanx. Keep in mind that v.hard bonuses make their peasansts into principes statwise. Also the ai spams javelin units and they will chew through militia hoplites.
@@willnash7907 This is how I played through the early stages of my Seleucid campaign and I implore you to give it a go if you truly feel it's impossible. I'm not looking to argue, this is simply my experience.
@@exiledzeta Only if greece is controled by AI and building stacks of peltasts and militia hoplites. Armoured and Spartan Hoplites tears apart any roman infantry.
Probably Numidia, Spain, Armenia and Parthia. They start with the most shittiest settlements and worst units early game. Armenia has some good Heavy Spearman though.
Germans since the berserkers o god o god o man Spartans well not even kill them my god just missile units can defeat them or cab but inf to inf berserker take the cake ( they just cost to much
You do realize that elephants can charge into them,killing a majority then cataphracts could kill the rest,or the berserkers charge into silver shield pikemen,then get surrounded by more phalanxes or Calvary.
seleucids units are terrible against projectiles, almost every heavy infantry, or even ctaphracts ... That's a definitive nope for these guys. Just no chance to beat romans.
Your wrong,the cataphracts have high defense,which means they can just rush the archers while they try to damage the cataphracts,the phalanxes can defeat any charging Calvary,the cataphracts can charge into the Roman legions and destroy them,the copycat legions can bring the real Roman legions into a trap of either phalanx pikes or a cataphracts charge and the elephants can break any sort of formation.
Incorrect, Rome total war isn’t very balanced,you see late game units for The romans,Greece,Macedon, and Seleucid Empire are all very incredibly powerful,as the other factions get dominated by them if they manage to get late game.
Your right,when Alexander took over Greece and Asia Minor and died, (he lead Macedon) His empire split into many factions,Greece went back to their old Spears which they probably regretted,and seleucids kept using their Macedonian spears,so actually seleucids are better because of the fact that they have the copycat legions of Rome,the Phalanxes of Macedon,the cataphracts of Parthia and some of the best ports if you take over Egypt and Greece.
Overall strongest: Brutii, that much is beyond dispute, nothing in this game can defeat urban cohorts, its simply not doable unless you play against the dumb ai that runs full frontal into elite phalanx and keeps still for the massive cav charge required to even dent these guys.
Best allrounders: Seleucids, they combine basically everything and only lack elite archers for the complete package.
Best ambushes: Gauls, their forest hunters are freaking deadly in forest ambushes, more so than any other unit.
Best shock tactics: Germans. They combine far more shock units into one army than any other faction, only absolute elite units can dream of standing their ground against an army that uses all at once.
Best underdogs: Numidia, a faction so ridiculously bad you just gotta root for them a little bit.
Yeah that's just not true. The Seleucids have one of the best unit rosters, and one of the best expansion opportunities of any factions, but they require a lot of skill and luck to survive in the early game. If you don't play them, the Seleucids are always one of the first factions to go, because all their neighbors hate them.
I can imagine your argument, but I do disagree. The Brutii have an overpowered unit roster, can and will expand to the rich Greek lands and even a newbie can achieve total victory with them. The Brutii are never ever in the danger of being wiped out, whereas the Seleucids are in serious danger of being wiped out.
I move all my troops to Asia minor and it works everytime.
Also urbans/pratoreoans crush anything the selucids can field
the Brutii are at rick right now in my Greek play though I'm doing right now.
have them down to one city.
@@LordGadwin What exactly do you mean by this if I may ask?
Because if your argument is that you are owning the AI Brutii, I'm sad to say that doesn't matter at all, in my opinion.
You should always make quick work of the Roman factions, especially the Brutii, if you're playing a Greek faction.
We should try to base this 'best faction' judgement on neutral circumstances, and leave all human player involvement out of it.
Ive also took a boat from turn 2 from Antioch and took out the brutii from the game.
yea but you get completely Dog Piled by every other faction around you and lose Selucia and Sardis really quickly if you are not carful
Indeed, I once did a Seleucid empire campaign and got dogpilled by Egypt, Pontus, Armenia ,Parthya early and later on the greeks and Scythia while I was still dealing with Egypt and Pontus, To this day I don't know how were Pontus able to field so many armies one after another but the fact that Egypt, Pontus, Parthya and Armenia were allies and only had me as an enemy might have had something to do with it. At the end of my stomp on all Egyptians and the Smashing of Armenia in 3 Turns I was overextended as fuck, the Parthians still had one city that was too far from my reach and the Schytians and greeks decided to join in the fun... Yes the Seleucids are savage to play, you're constantly attacked by ALL your neighbours and they're strong ones too.
Now Macedon, that was a fun playthrough, Managed to conquer Rome and kill off SPQR ,The Julli and the Brutii before the first set of reforms and the only reason the Scitii survived for longer was because they managed to hole up in their african territories and that the Egyptians were again proving a nuisance. They also thought me that the Greek cities are cunts, I even became their protectorate once during that session and the damn backstabbing bastards tried to Conquer me again.
You can prevent early attacks on Seleucids by draining all the money from your neighbours with a diplomacy and recruit your own army on the same money to attack Egypt, pillaging their cities to recruit next army, attacking Pontus and so on. Just don't waste your money to defend and develop tiny settlements - let AI do that if they capture it.
I was able to keep everything together in my very hard Seleucid campaign, i didint lode a single settlement however it was a sluggish process because of the countless enemies
I just finished a campaign where I conquered more than 2/3 of the map but the two Roman Factions left kicked my ass
@@maddengawd5773 Really? I was in your situation, but with the help of the cavallery i didn't find too difficoult deal with the Romans... shuerely wasn't easy, but they didn't kick my quit often
I would say that the Seleucid are very powerful but only in late stage
This, in multiplayer campaign people rush pick selucids and lose first because their units are bad in the early stages of the game. Egypt (and parthia etc.) can use those cheap bowmen/archers to shoot shit out of pikemen.
That’s right,but if you rush Alexandria or Memphis,you can easily overpower the Egyptians,make sure they are who you attack first,then the parthians,then whoever is next.
Seleucids are very strong. All units have good use.
Keep a strong and low cost army of archers, pikemen, cavalry and chariots in towns to fight against rebels.
For fast conquest;
1. use an army of 5 armored elephants [charge first & break enemy formation] 10 cataphract [charge second and make remaining armies rout] and 5 companion cavalry [charge last and kill fleeing troops. They end huge battles very quickly even when greatly outnumbered. This army takes out anything in the field.
2. use army of 10 silvershield legionaries to take walls, 9 silvershield pikemen to take tight streets in phalanx formation, 1 general to keep morale. This is one of the strongest builds to take towns.
#1 army is all cavalry so they move across map quickly and take out anything big out of the walls. #2 makes its way through slowly but takes towns efficiently
Recently, I was playing as the Seleucids on very hard difficulty just for the hell of it. Mind you, this was my first time playing on very hard difficulty and let me tell you, it's unbelievable. Usually I'd play on medium but then I stepped up my game so I could improve. I must say, it is as the difficulty says, HARD. The Egyptians want a piece of me, my Pontic and Parthian allies betrayed me, the Armenians went on the action too, then my former friends the Greek City-States attacked as well. I managed to beat up and absolutely destroy the Egyptians, the Pontics, almost all of the Parthians, soon the Armenians, and the City-States, all WITHOUT ANY OF THEM TAKING AWAY MY TERRITORIES. (I wish I was joking, but I managed to keep all my cities intact and take new lands for the empire.) And guess what? The Romans arrived. By boat.
The Brutii landed near Halicarnassus and lay siege on the settlement, pinning down my forces there. And for some reason, they didn't even take the entirety of the Greek Peninsula! They just went straight towards me! ME! What the hell!? They didn't take Sparta or any of the Macedonian lands, they just went to me for some reason! How the fu-!?
Here’s some tips, the first faction you attack will be Egypt,rush Alexandria or Memphis first thing,that will help a lot since Alexandria has their faction leader and Memphis has the pyramids to help with loyalty,then blitz the rest of Egypt.BTW never ally with Parthia,they’ll always betray you. ally with Armenia,go after Parthia if they pose a threat,then after that go after Armenia,and then do whatever you want from there.
@Major Gear yeah, any roman faction is a good choice for the first campaign
I like how short and straight to the point this video is. Thank you.
Brutii got in fact a way stronger roaster with inflated units stats, and are paid to conquers the best region in the game. They ARE the best faction in the game by a large margin.
Egyptians are 2nd because you can just stomps all their competition since they only have one neighburg that is seleucid, who have like 5 main factions as ennemy with every body hating them, a very weak early roaster that need times to upgrade and a bad starting economy
Im talking full autobattle curbstomp winning here even at max difficulty
Seleucid is actually one of the hardest faction in the game and the 2nd worst normal playable faction behind Partia. (Not all faction are playable if you dont mess with the game folder)
The Seleucid start is not too bad. Levy pikemen smash Egypt's nile spearmen and nubian infantry. Plus you get the powerful scythed chariots early if you build a blacksmith. I usually play it defensively in Seleucia and offensively with Egypt until I can recruit phalanx pikemen and cataphracts. Money stockpiles quickly once you take Halicarnassus and Salamis
Parthia, missile cavalry, armoured cavalry and elephants. Completely created to defeat romans xd
Parthia is actually pretty easy to defeat if you get a ton of spearmen,archers and heavy cavalry. Of which that’s what the Seleucids,Greece and Macedon have.
@@exiledzeta AI Parthia is easy to defeat but what can spearmen and archers do against persian cavalry?! Heavy cavalry? Parthia got heavy catafracts which will mace it down in no time.
Armenia have good spears, missle light, missle heavy, heavy cav, Armenian legions, archers, hillmen for good flanking. What else you can need?
Play them on vh/vh that campaign is a nightmare if your not careful.
Dreamer very hard campaign is cool(without sea battles) but very hard battle is very stupid. enemy peasants can beat my general cavalry.
@@Djawadi90 hahahahah! Their moral is off the charts. Peasants have the moral of pretorian guard. Hahahahahaha
@@Djawadi90 You can defeat 5+ units of low level spearmen with a 40-50 bodyguard unit even on V.Hard. You just have to exhaust them.
I agree. Build barracks, blacksmith, temple of Hephaestus and their upgrades first of all. Keep your phallanxes together in double line. Use the cataphracts
My strategy at very hard level: Seleucids, phalanx in the centre, archers in front with catapults. you decimate roman legions with range units. Then, phalanxes vs legions. Protect phalanxes sides with silver shields, and use cavalry to flank roman legions.
Saphyrion how I do with Pontus, and when artillery runs out of ammo I spread the operators infront of my pikes to absorb pila
The seleucids may have the best roster for the late game... but at the start of the campaign you get trash units and you are surrounded by enemies.....
I think the best faction is the Brutii because you get to take Greece wich is the richest place in the game
Ya I pretty much agree with you. I've been thinking about remaking this video for a while now because of that. If you can survive the early game though, the Seleucids are a powerhouse
Hay man. Just seen ya videos and really liked them. Ive been playing the game for a long time and yet not knowing how to keep ppl happy etc and ive always used the greeks.
Try building some more buildings so they are happy about new stuff,try the romans since they are easier than the Greeks as Greece can get blitzed by Brutii early game.
Playing it in very hard.i got stuck with roman empire now, but due to some of your tips from other vids i am crushing them. Early game was a party, tried to be in good terms with my neighbors, but one after another they tried to finish me real quick. Hahahah
I agree with the Seleucids. They are the best faction because of their wide variety of units. they have every kind of cavalry, a wide selection of phalanx, armored swordsmen (legionaries), scythed chariots, onagers, and every kind of elephant. The only thing they don’t have is the upgraded archers.
Now, I would have to disagree about the Romans. In my book, Germania beats them out and just misses the top spot to the Seleucids. Why? The germanians have a good selection of units. They have phalanx, great axe men, upgraded archers, great cavalry. And they have the berserkers, the most OP thing I have ever seen in a video game. Even the armored Elephants will lose to the berserkers. So why do the Seleucids win? Variety and armor. Germania units just don’t wear armor. As such, they are vulnerable. Also, Germania doesn’t have the chariots or Elephants. True, berserkers will destroy both, they are not armored and are quite vulnerable to archers.
I don't know about the Seleucid but both the Scipii (who can rush Greece away from Brutii) AND the Greek States (early Armored Hoplites) are a better play AND with better temples
I think he was talking in a neutral comparasion based on the economy of the regions and how much territory the nations begin with and how good are the troops. So if we look in this way Seleucid are shurely one of the bests factions... if we talk in more specific way, the selucids are one of the bests in the late game, but one of the worst in the early game, not for the army, but because they are sourranded by a lot of hostile factions like Egypt, Greeks, Armenia and Ponti...
If we look only the army then is one of the bests... It's true greeks can do fastly the oplites one of the bests starting unit of the whole game, but in a short time if you have done well amministration you can do phalanks pikeman in lot of your territory and it is even better then the opplites... the problems of the greeks army it is the cavallery, the Seleucids in the other side have one of the bests with cataphrat and companion cavallery... I think if we look only the army Seleucids are equal to Romans, with a little bit more versatily on the cavallery side and little bit less on the infantry side.
@@senzanome6702 The most overpowered unit in the game in relation to its campaign value is the standard legion (not the early, neither the urban or pretorian). However, the armored hoplites are available within 5 turns from Sparta, also take 1 turn to recruit, and are perhaps 75% of the value of a legion unit. I played a game where I took Rome within 25 turns using a full roster of armored hoplites (obviously recruited from a couple of cities) and of course I quit after that as I had basically had no difficulties left - I had much of the best regions on the map and an unstoppable army ready to get replenished from multiple cities and conquer the world. Meanwhile, it takes some 25-30 turns to even reach legionaries in the remastered game since you can no longer channel where the slaves go.
@@Dan-uf2vh If you want a fast campain then yes, Greeks, Rome, but also Cartaghe are ones of the bests choices, this because with this factions you can rush, but in hard mode it is not impossible, but rushing is harder. With Seleucids it's true it is hard to grow quickly, but you can easly deal with armored oplites, their not a particoulary graet threat, shurely are really strong in the early game, but nothing to be so afraid... then obviously if the selucids have the leavy pikeman it is an easy win for a greeks with the armored oplite, but in three turn in Antioch you can have Phalanks Pikeman (also 1 turn for the recruitmen) and you can deal with the armored oplites. In more or less 25 turns you can have this troupes in a lot of seleucids cities. Romans hardly will arrive in Turkey in the early game amd if they did they have Hastati or principes and so you can deal with phalanks pikeman and yes triari are a good trupes but not against a phalanks. And if they come to fight seleucids with legionaries and similar, if you have made everything fine you will have preatty much everything, cataphrat, armored elephant, silver shield pikeman, silver shield legionaries and so you can easly deal with roman also in late game.
Greeks instead they will deal with romans, but it will be more hard because they don't have good cavallery, only the late general bodyguard is good, but the late roman army have not particoulary issue against the phalanks. Of course spartan opplite will do massive damage, but armored opplite even if they will continue to be good, they won't be good as before. So what are you saiyng isn't wrong, but depends also wich is your style, wich difficoulty you play and when you fight a faction.
If you chose almost any other faction and I wouldn’t bat an eye but the Seleucids. Yikes
Scythia is definitely the best. The horse archers are crazy overpowered and can just stomp through Greece and macedon from the start and build a huge economy pretty quick.
So were they in real life. Archers are always powerful.
germania ...light cav 90 upkeep, cav stacks...u can't lose
Ethan FENTON i use cavalries too. but only roman general cavalries or parthian general cavalries. and i use spies on sieges. easy win. even against phalanxes attack from rears and behind. you will win every battle without losing men. game is not funny anymore.
Ethan FENTON and you can buy generals.
Really? You can?
@@Djawadi90 Only in Barbarian Invasion
@@lucfxgambitgaming7494 nope.
The rebels are the strongest one. You can play as a rebel if you amend the document. Rebels spawn continuously in the game lol.
No,though they have lots of settlements,their armies are weak af and can be easily blitzed by any faction,especially The Romans and seleucids.
You get trash units as rebels and most of your settlements get invaded from the start, it' probably the hardest campaign
I conquered Italy, Gaul, some of Hispania, Armenia, Parthia, Egypt, Pontus, all of Greece and Macedonia, Bylazora and a load of islands
Great Jamie and i conquered world but who cares
Can you do a video about how to manage your generals in rome total war.
Check it out! I hope this answers your questions
ruclips.net/video/f2LRbqIq45s/видео.html
Is this a guide for late game only? It also seems like you forgot about the enemies around them. Most games I play as them I'm at war with every one of my neighbors within 5 turns. After that 1 of 2 things happen first being that I move all my troops to the eastern Anatolia or secondly get wiped out. Honestly the Brutii are better and even the Egyptians are 2 legs up.
Love the intro!!! ♥️♥️♥️
before watching the vid im already sure its the brutii... best religion, roman, best start position etc
Yeah,but early game seleucids May be weak,but once you get to late game you will murder everyone and everything.
I still think romans are better, urban cohorts and pretorian cavalry plus archers will crush anything
@@Robbi_ One stack of Cataphracts will destroy any Roman faction.
Those are a ok Empire to be with. But I like the Greek city states more. They have a fight on almost four fronts to fight on.i have taken on all fronts and won
If it's a fight on all fronts you want then Seleucids are pretty much it.
The seleucids have legionaris and elephants, elephants and chariots then, on the paper, they are the bests
The Brutii are the strongest faction.
Karamjan Triangle more like the richest
Greeks have a weak answer against elephants and a weak answer against a lot of pikemen or hoplites
scipii are best roman faction better warships and they have weapon n' armour upgrades through temples...brutii best for ££££ ow and scipii have the best gladiatorial infantry
At the end Seleucid are the strongest faction. Have good pikemen for dealing with cavalry or hoplites. Cataphract owns archers better than anything. Their only weakness is weak archers but at least they have archers.
Rome has no answer against armored elephant/cataphract/companion cavalry formation.
ok but the upkeep is through the roof by the end you have what silver shields over 300 upkeep so instead you get levy pikeman...also no dogs does nobody use dogs correctly im the germans n all you need is 6/7 dog units n chosen archers let loose the dogs and they hold enemy in place or break the enemy....germans have gothic cav, better than companion...berserkers, long distance archers, n dogs dawg...theres a reason why the seleucids always get curb stomped by the ai in every campaign
I also have play as almost every empire. I fine it better to fight on both Italy and Turkey and Greece . all at once.
You are correct!
Greek they can take Rome in minutes
and the other strong Italian people
you can do this with the sulucids aswell i took a boat from antioch on turn 2, you take all your jav cav you start out with and take a boat and recruit cretans ect from kydonia. then storm the brutii and remove them as a faction same thing with the scipii then leave julii to get the marian reforms so you can upgrade your generals.
but if you do this too late it'll be a lot harder, no ships will attack you if you do it from turn 2 the rebels dont get ships till around turn 7 or 8 dont quote me.
The british auto industry says otherwise
Prepare yourself for constant sieges you will win because you blob phalanxes around the gate etc.
How do you get chariots?
That Asshole blacksmith and armourer
And then auto resolve, guaranteed to win due to the broken AI.
tyvm
Pontus is the best for me
Whatever’s best for you mate.
they are cool as well, they gave me a lot of problems, with phalanxes and heavy cavalry.
Tips barbarian invasion plis.
Thank you
Carthage are the best.
It is definetly fun faction to play. Shattered cities over the map make it hard but rewarding to defend in multiplayer campaigns.
If you know how to be an asshole, you can easily defend cities with a small stack of militia hoplites. I will say, however, it makes the opening stages of the game very boring. Regardless, making your nation with a strong economy rely on the cheapest thing in town, you can really rake in the cash and get to those wonderfully diverse units quicker than you think
Not if you play in V.Hard and trash troops don't die to phalanxes.
@@willnash7907 I don't think you know how to play like an asshole then. make a V shape with 2 units where they break the wall or gate and they walk right in and die. I only ever play on very hard, so I'm certain it works
@@TheLiam14141 Tier 1 and probably also Tier 2 pikes are too short and too low damage to kill light infantry at pace in v.hard so they mass and break through the phalanx.
Keep in mind that v.hard bonuses make their peasansts into principes statwise. Also the ai spams javelin units and they will chew through militia hoplites.
@@willnash7907 This is how I played through the early stages of my Seleucid campaign and I implore you to give it a go if you truly feel it's impossible. I'm not looking to argue, this is simply my experience.
The best faction is Greek then the House of Brutii
No it isn’t,Greece gets absolutely blitzed by the Brutii
@@exiledzeta Only if greece is controled by AI and building stacks of peltasts and militia hoplites. Armoured and Spartan Hoplites tears apart any roman infantry.
My man!
@@exiledzeta you can storm italy from round 5 and wipe out brutii.
What is the hardest campaign
Probably Numidia, Spain, Armenia and Parthia. They start with the most shittiest settlements and worst units early game. Armenia has some good Heavy Spearman though.
Bruh Greeks are the best... you can set phalanx formation and nothing will penitrate them
Germans since the berserkers o god o god o man Spartans well not even kill them my god just missile units can defeat them or cab but inf to inf berserker take the cake ( they just cost to much
To Pasa but the cheapest Cavalry can defeat them in no time
You do realize that elephants can charge into them,killing a majority then cataphracts could kill the rest,or the berserkers charge into silver shield pikemen,then get surrounded by more phalanxes or Calvary.
Berserkers? I don't see any! Maybe they got charged by British Heavy Chariots? :)
Germans or any barbarian faction are great early but cant get past rank 3 towns
I believe it's pronounced "Sel oi kid."
Believe whatever you want.
It is pronounced "Greek", just watch their entrance video ;)
try play wh/wh
seleucids units are terrible against projectiles, almost every heavy infantry, or even ctaphracts ... That's a definitive nope for these guys. Just no chance to beat romans.
Your wrong,the cataphracts have high defense,which means they can just rush the archers while they try to damage the cataphracts,the phalanxes can defeat any charging Calvary,the cataphracts can charge into the Roman legions and destroy them,the copycat legions can bring the real Roman legions into a trap of either phalanx pikes or a cataphracts charge and the elephants can break any sort of formation.
You have no chance of beating Romans using the best military units in the game? Maybe it's not Seleucids that are terrible..
All factions are strong.
Incorrect, Rome total war isn’t very balanced,you see late game units for The romans,Greece,Macedon, and Seleucid Empire are all very incredibly powerful,as the other factions get dominated by them if they manage to get late game.
@@exiledzeta Don't look at the stats of the units. If you don't know how to specifically use them in a battle it will be no good to you.
Uhhhhh no tge selucids will get dogpiled on, unless youre me playing the Armenians
Aggre
The macedonians are the best
Finally someone who understands the phalanx spearman in Macedonia have the highest reach
Seleucids basicly have the same spearmen as Macedonia.
Your right,when Alexander took over Greece and Asia Minor and died, (he lead Macedon) His empire split into many factions,Greece went back to their old Spears which they probably regretted,and seleucids kept using their Macedonian spears,so actually seleucids are better because of the fact that they have the copycat legions of Rome,the Phalanxes of Macedon,the cataphracts of Parthia and some of the best ports if you take over Egypt and Greece.
@@Overlord734 not much, Seleucids Silvershields are weaker than Royal Pikemen of Macedonia due to shield bonus (2 vs 5).
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