FINALLY A HONEST VIDEO FROM A HIGH MMR PLAYER! Every other person tells you that you can climb by just doing the "work" which is patently false. More often than not you will have idiots who pick heroes that don´t sync well or that don´t do shit like push well. Also there is the fact that they will join games and buy garbage items in terms of their role (pos5 lion that doesn´t buy wards to rush aghs). Basically you have to pick heroes that can make up for at least 2 idiots on your team. Well done Jenkins.
@@soulsfang is abba good according to this video? lategame, he scales well (i think) where he could build aghs to literally save everyone, heals is not easy to counter, he is good at pushing with his passive, thoughts?
I always get fuckin Chen. Whenever there is a random draft, I always get the stupid fuckin shit creep of a hero Chen. The most useless worthless crap of shit with an "ultimate" that heals fuckin creeps. HEAL CREEPS for an amount that is taken by one fucking late game right click. Even that fuckin rat that he rides looks like he's done with that shit and just doesn't care anymore.
The blind picking portion has some good points. I typically will pick axe if my teammate is picking a dazzle for this kind of thought process. Stacking a potm with a weaver is bad. A HP regen hero like alch and husk is bad. Try not to stack things that are countered by the same one item / ability
i went to legend 1 to legend 5 with shaman, shaman can create space too if youre lossing, pushing lane with Q and ulti on enemy tower, someone will tp to def it or gank pos5 creating space for carry.
I've had a lot of success spamming Necrophos and playing him like a pseudo tinker. I get nulls and wand for early stats, then go into travels, blink, and shard. Hood->Eternal Shroud or BKB as needed. Later extensions are red blink, shivas, octarine, SnK. Go offlane, out sustain every carry, and then live in the side lanes split pushing showing up to fights as convenient. I've been pushing 10x cs and consistently been having the highest impact on the map. I think the Eul's, Pipe, Greaves route feels really bad right now. Build damage, build to place your damage where it's needed, and then build to survive so you can actually use your damage.
also spam necrophos when i role queue farm (i play carry main)...offlane position, 5k~5.5k bracket.....i buy 2x tango, 3x branch, stick, faerie fire lvl1, rush arcane boots for me and my pos4, then buy 2pcs fluffy hat and cloak windlace....then i buy hood and disassemble arcane boots for holy locket, then i go force staff....those are my core items, the following items after that depend so it's your typical lotus/travel/shivas/sange kaya/ radiance/aghs/bkb/euls/pipe/mek/greaves...early radiance after hood if you have free farm is also great route, only lane matchups where i lose as necro is jugg/AM, necro usually beats any carry and forces them to jungle... skill build is Q-E-Q-E-Q-R-Q-W, i rarely get early W unless i really have to like if i'm against an ursa cause lvl2 E scales really well from lvl1 E do note that SnK has HP regen and Mana regen AMP which works stupid strong with your E.....holy locket is stupid for Q and if you have a mek and the +32hp talent nobody in your team should get burst down if you use Q+locket+mek on them
@@DellaVas ~5.6k. The most team utility item I build is lotus, and most often I used it as a way to purge a silence or root off myself without having to pop my bkb. I don't like the positioning Eul's leaves you in. I strongly believe Greaves is bad value, and pipe is better off as Eternal Shroud. Going items like travels and blink ensures you can safely keep side lanes shoved hard, and that you continue to scale. It also means you have a lot more freedom to pick your engagements based on cooldowns and relative power spikes. I start with tango, x2 faerie fire, quelling, branch, mantle/circlet. I skip the early Hood unless I know I'm going to be building Eternal Shroud. I prefer to get my mobility options online ASAP, since x2 Null and wand provide a good buffer of stats to survive with, you just need to know your limits with the hero. Live in the sidelanes and shove away, keeping your eye on the minimap for the key heroes that threaten you. Get Shard as close to 20 mins as you can, it greatly amps your farm and provides you with a really useful tool in fights. I had a game recently where I finished with higher GPM than a top 200 immortal who had a similar start and rushed midas, all because travels and blink give you access to so much farm you otherwise couldn't get to without never playing near your team. Also one final note, I think Agh's Sceptre is REALLY niche right now, as in you can only build it against heroes who literally will never build nullifier. BKB is also a really underrated Necro item, as it let's you play through opposing BKB without having to kite entirely out of the fight. EDIT: I also think Radiance is a bit of a trap, and too greedy, especially when paired with travels. The last game I built radiance was actually my lowest game GPM wise in my recent history. Travels, Blink, Shard into Red Blink or Shiva's gives you so much farming capability and presence in fights that it's not funny.
are you trying to rank after years? if so recommend against it. just play normals to rebuild your mechanics and follow the meta, watch replays, relearn the game as if it’s your first time because every time the meta shifts dota is basically a new game.
Zeus is actually a decent hero in pubs. Even with Pipe on the enemy team you have so much magical damage - it's insane. With BoT you can push waves really well and safely. Zues naturally builds CDR so they become even better. Teamfight is good for Zeus because the enemies are less coordinated, and you have Sniper range with abilities. He's also a lane dominator, especially vs melee heroes. With Q build, the enemy simply can't be near their creeps at all, you just get hit for 100hp every time. You have poke, you have burst. You gank really well, even across the map with R and Nimbus. Would definitely recommend Zeus.
I miss the old days with the active tranq boots. I swear i was the only PA that used that boots plus basilus and i get a basher by 7minutes and snowball from there.
my faviroute hero is treant and I preety much spam the hero because I enjoy him so much but he really falls of hard and I've played a few games inparticular where I have felt I have played to the best of my ability and been hugely impactful and still lost the game. I really am starting to understand if I am playing in a pub I need to play a support that scales better at least as I dont enjoy playing carry that much. Ive found even a hero like winter wyvern can scale better as I can play bad all game then an hour into the game land one good ult and win a big team fight and win the game
You said it Jenkins.... Pros should be blamed for this . Most of my teammates think they are yapzor taking ridoculous picks for a pub. Note: I'm a Big time shaman and jakiro spammer. Ez carrying like ' a chicken with My head cut off ' lol
This is exactly what I learned the hard way as a pos 5, loved dazzle, omniknight and Io but I often found myself just sitting with a couple of saves and nothing else, then my roster switched quickly to witch doctor, warlock, crystal maiden, jackiro and Venomancer. Be a nuisance early, then control team fights in late. Amazing video!
I just play mid. I have way more control than pos1. if my other lanes fail or my pos5 is trash i lose very fast and dont have time to farm. if i am mid and can gank and win everyone's lane for them, it's likely gg. that's why most smurfs play mid - it's the most impactful position for the first 15 minutes of the game
What can u do as a pos 1 player when the other 4 players pick greedy heroes who afk farm all game? For example, most of the time my mid and offlane teammate consists of heroes such as weaver, ck, Sven, riki, WK, jugg.. basically hard carries heroes that don't rotate early and just hit jungle creeps while the enemy team takes all our outer towers by 20-25mn. How do u win games like that? Sometimes, I think even Miracle or RTZ cannot win in games like that. My bracket is Ancient btw.
Pick fighting cores or play your farming core like a fighting core. Mostly, pick fighting cores. Don’t pick Medusa for example. Instead pick weaver. Or, pick a farming core with early timings. Drow is a good one, as she comes online and incredibly strong with just manta and pike.
i calibrated from 3900 MMR who grinded to 5500 MMR as a carry main.... the key is don't play carry until you get out of ancient, play pos5 and you will get out of divine1 so easily (probably go lich/jakiro this patch)..if you insist on playing carry, pick an offlane hero in the safelane who scale well with farm like bristleback/night stalker/chaos knight
@@vanguardas9927 but I mean u did grind from 3k to 5k playing carry heroes. Did ur team mostly play their role correctly or ure just that good no matter what ur team's draft is ?
as a io player i have to agree with this vid so much ^^ not rly the best pub heroes you never know if ur main tether target just decide to babyrage and afk. yet here i am 2022 grandmaster io and still playing it cuz its hella fun
Here's shadow shaman in groups with idiots. Hey listen! My ults up can we try and push a tower? Everyone continues to jungle, then you afk drinking your mtn dew and cheetos.
I have a question, if i que with a friend, position 1 and 5, is it worth focusing more on his game than me being greedier if i have faith he can carry most of my games?
depends on how good a 1 he is, and what heroes he is playing. If he plays heavy late game heroes like medusa, just let him solo lane if its safe, from early and stack camps. If its a kill carry, follow him around as a stunner support and gank people or let him farm greedy while you do stuff close by,and help him if he gets ganked
You really don't understand the concept of positions. If you are position 5, It means that no matter what you do, you should be bottom networth. What you need to do as a pos 5 is just make him able to jungle then you do your thing, either ganking or warding and stacking.
Couple days ago in my 3k ranked my pos 4 was joited AF, he was talking like a turnament at his school or something, all game talking, actually really funny. And the sad part he wasnt playing that bad i mean he was REALLY out there. My Marcy offlane was the one going in too deep and blaming us cause we didnt initiate with her.
If you want to reach your target bracket quickly, pick these 5 heroes: Legion Commander, Wraith King, Phantom Assasin, Faceless Void, Troll Warlord. No matter what your opponent or team members pick, you can carry them. Thank me later.
After like minute 15 i feel like you just edited an old footage in. Because i have heard you say these exact words before. I am not sure where and not sure how. But i am absolutely sure i have heard all you said about roles job and blind pick counters prevention.
This video is great. There should be way more contect about this. Also way more content about supporting. Because the state of the supports in lower brackets is terrible. They are clueless. Please educate them more because I don't know how much longer i can take this punishment ;(
Walk up to a T1 tower and ult every time it’s off cool down. In 3.5k and below you can get all the T1 towers within 20 minutes and that alone opens up the map for victory. Too often SS is holding his ult until he’s at 20% life, throws it and wasted it. Or he keeps it for so long, he could have literally back door’d a T1 and it would have been off cool down again. Think about your opponents and choose between sheep and shackles. There are plenty of games with a double stun lane and my SS is leveling shackle which is useless for the lane.
In sea server best to flag for offlane and pick offlane heroes that can scale in any stage of the game with low budget build. Always expect that your mid will fail and blame.. your carry will go to lol or ml .. your support will hog all the tomes and wards and will make a mini garden somewhere for his BUTTERFLY. your pos 4 Robin hood will steal lane creeps from you and donate the gold for the enemy carry or mid.
My pos 5 job : wants to get midas and be greedy. Wants to sit behind the carry, leech the xp and watch him getting beaten by enemies. Forget to stacks. Rush aghs, no glimmer or force. And feed. My pos 4 job : lazy to follow the enemy's pos 5. Forget to roam. No TP when the team needs him most. Forget about runes. Leech XP. No stacking. Rush aghs. And blame. My pos 3 job : eats the stacks, eats triangle, eats your farm. Let the enemy's pos 1 free farm. Lose the tower. No aura items, go full damage without BKB. Not sticking with the other cores. Win the fight, back to farm. Basically, can't create space for you. My pos 2 job : Last pick with a funny hero. Tunnel vision. Wants to eat the triangle and small camps. Forget to do a rotation. Farm, farm and farm. "What the fuck is space creation, i am the midlaner!" You, as a pos 1 : watch all videos from GamerzClass YT. How to solo carry the game even your teammates are "Chickens with the heads cut off".
I spam pos1 tiny. Having a blast. This hero got cleave (farm) Nuke Disable Tankiness Tower damage!!!! Insane dmg! And doesnt give a shit about counters. Like what you gonna do? Pick tide? Aight. Banned
hi 7k player, i think all of this is for low ranked medals, why do i say this, cuz all of this jobs can be done by every single role depending on who is ahead in terms of FARM, and this is very important, for example, the midlaner can become the pos 3 in case his offlaner is an physical damage scaling type of hero and is having a good time, the midlaner can also become the pos 1 if his carry is an active kind of hero, such as riki slark monkey king razor ck etc etc, pos 4 can become a pos 3 and a pos 5 depending on all of these things, as u keep grinding and getting more mmr, u will realize of all of this, and u will realize that farm priority and whos ahead is probably what decides who is carrying the game, and is not always the carry ;)
Last pick meepo spammer here, pusher, fighter, farmer, escaper, carrier, literally he can do everything. Had 9 rampages in 25days with meepo. 4k bracket
I usually wait for last pick (I only play turbo) and then try and pick something to complete the draft. The overwhelming majority of the time we need some sort of frontliner and I end up picking dusa mid or safelane.
If i provide better support as a pos 5 than the pos 5's on the opposite team, my rank will increase. Regardless of how you do it. This whole analysis is too short sighted imo.
not really. it is harder to gain mmr on lower brackets as pos 5 but 2-5k is extremely good. I used to play herald at around 900mmr as pos 5 and even if you get unlucky with teammates you can get more than 50% chance of winning by taking advantage of the gold on the map. although map awareness and winning lanes are a must. heralds have a harder time usually on coming back from losing laning since a lot pick hard carries that needs farm. plus you can scale using pos5 heroes like shaman, wyvern and Sometimes CM. Although Mid or offlane did help me more get consistent 60-80% winning games on herald and guardian.
IMO scaling on pos 3-5 heroes is overrated in pubs. In modern dota with shards, talents, and more gold, every hero can bring something to the table in lategame. For ranks below 5k there's always been one clear common factor in the heroes that spend a lot of time in the top 20 for winrate: they're mechanically simple. Ogre, Wraith, Zeus, Underlord, etc. The stuff that ACTUALLY wins or loses games is your fundamentals: positioning, map awareness, showing up to the right fights, communication, etc. With good enough fundamentals, you don't need to style on people, you just need to not fuck up your hero control. And that's why the complicated heroes like Puck, Oracle and Invoker suck - you don't want to have to focus on pressing 500 buttons in the right order. You want to be operating your hero on muscle memory while your conscious brain busy winning the game by playing the right place on the map. If I look at the supports that I win with in pubs, it's not the ones trying to scale by building Aghs Refresher on Warlock or Midas on Ogre, that shit is not important. It's the ones who understand who on the team wants to fight and positioning themselves on the map to make things happen. A brown boots Bane who shows up in the right place at the right time to Grip their carry is worth a hundred Aghs Lions who I have to beg for 5 minutes to stop following the carry around the jungle or standing around under t2 towers for no reason and come kill people with me after I win lane on QoP.
Oracle does so much damage thoguh I literally went 12-0 one game as pos 5 oracle and won and I was one level higher than my carry Ed of the game who was pl 1-4. Oracle is not just a save if you play him the way I do where I just focus on damage.
I've been spamming necrophos 5 in unranked (around 4k) mmr and it works. I always find space to farm guardian greaves + pipe + holy locket so that when we go high ground, nobody on my team can die. Run in first and bait fights, pop ghost shroud + mek + death pulse + wand and heal, ult the enemy carry, GG.
That about roles is more liqid i think sometime your mid must play like 3 and 4 must start farm and be used like 1 or 2, there was game on ti when invoker stoped farming and let sups take gold in sake of winning game, in pub is more offten. But there is a MASSIVE PROBLEM players try to do this without talking with cores and forcing them to strugle (4pos furions playing like that) that players sometime play good but do not team to end game with timings one + in this is that you got 4th core in that 60min game, but mostly you lose coz oponents just outpushed you. In dota now there is no op heroes these just good chars in cartain way, if you want play 5 than play with disables or slows to win tf (rhasta lion snap), 4 need to be someone who can stop core from doing what they want or buff your cores to do what they need to do with more specialisation than 5 (ww, pango, oracle, es, techie), 3 must give time to cores early to farm and late to make dmg, 2 must do same job as 3 but must be a backup for ending the game, 1 is 1 just dont feed ;d. My conclusion : take hero what you play good and make that hero shine beyond imagine with all that hero can give to team, if you lose a lot matches with it change hero or playstyle. In fighting games mario are shoto, from shotokan classical karate style used by ryu ken sakura akuma and some other.
In my matches, after the first 4 picks, my team needs another 3 picks just to get close to a normal roster. If I had a penny for everytime when my team mates picked 4 supports first 4 picks, I would be rich. If I see 4 carry, we have a chance, if I see 4 supports I need to win that match under 30 minutes and that never happends in pubs, I just know I lost. This is my main problem with Dota, the game forces to play 60 minutes matches that are lost from pick phase. A dog can see that that match is lost but my team mates can't. Almost every match I get a techies or a pudge, many matches I get both. And don't think that they are good players, it's just like you would play 3vs5 after a while. Some heroes should not be allowed in low brakets, imbecile people pick them and they just ruin games.
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SEA logic: I pick jugg pos5 so I can be carry if my carry sucks.
HAHAHAHA it's true...
FINALLY A HONEST VIDEO FROM A HIGH MMR PLAYER!
Every other person tells you that you can climb by just doing the "work" which is patently false.
More often than not you will have idiots who pick heroes that don´t sync well or that don´t do shit like push well. Also there is the fact that they will join games and buy garbage items in terms of their role (pos5 lion that doesn´t buy wards to rush aghs). Basically you have to pick heroes that can make up for at least 2 idiots on your team.
Well done Jenkins.
I instantly started crying in tears on 1100 Oracle games!
PepeLaugh
"This time it will work" xd
How many abba games u got? got gm teir on him yet? XD how did i know i'd find you here mate
@@soulsfang is abba good according to this video? lategame, he scales well (i think) where he could build aghs to literally save everyone, heals is not easy to counter, he is good at pushing with his passive, thoughts?
I will save you 23mins, wait to get last pick, then random
I believe you can only random in the first phase so this doesn't even work.
@@dm9910 You can just manually random by putting marbles with every single heroes face in a bag then pulling one out when it's your last pick
I always get fuckin Chen. Whenever there is a random draft, I always get the stupid fuckin shit creep of a hero Chen. The most useless worthless crap of shit with an "ultimate" that heals fuckin creeps. HEAL CREEPS for an amount that is taken by one fucking late game right click.
Even that fuckin rat that he rides looks like he's done with that shit and just doesn't care anymore.
U cant random after the first stage
Every DotA player (and League player) in solo Q should watch this. much appreciated, Jenkins!
If the heralds see this, they would be offended.
The blind picking portion has some good points. I typically will pick axe if my teammate is picking a dazzle for this kind of thought process. Stacking a potm with a weaver is bad. A HP regen hero like alch and husk is bad. Try not to stack things that are countered by the same one item / ability
Whats potm sir?
@@andreb.sembiring5086 princess of the moon (mirana)
@@jackr.5200 Priestess.
tl;dr - Pos 5: Shadow Shaman or Jakiro, Pos 4: Earthshaker, Pos 3: Axe, Pos 2: Ember Spirit, Pos 1: Wraith King. If they are banned, pick 'Mario' heroes with stuns (ordinary heroes, like Sven, Tiny, Lina, Mirana)
i went to legend 1 to legend 5 with shaman, shaman can create space too if youre lossing, pushing lane with Q and ulti on enemy tower, someone will tp to def it or gank pos5 creating space for carry.
Meanwhile my pos 4 and 5 pick wk and lc and both go jungle...
I've had a lot of success spamming Necrophos and playing him like a pseudo tinker. I get nulls and wand for early stats, then go into travels, blink, and shard. Hood->Eternal Shroud or BKB as needed. Later extensions are red blink, shivas, octarine, SnK. Go offlane, out sustain every carry, and then live in the side lanes split pushing showing up to fights as convenient. I've been pushing 10x cs and consistently been having the highest impact on the map. I think the Eul's, Pipe, Greaves route feels really bad right now. Build damage, build to place your damage where it's needed, and then build to survive so you can actually use your damage.
*taking notes*
Which bracket?
also spam necrophos when i role queue farm (i play carry main)...offlane position, 5k~5.5k bracket.....i buy 2x tango, 3x branch, stick, faerie fire lvl1, rush arcane boots for me and my pos4, then buy 2pcs fluffy hat and cloak windlace....then i buy hood and disassemble arcane boots for holy locket, then i go force staff....those are my core items, the following items after that depend so it's your typical lotus/travel/shivas/sange kaya/ radiance/aghs/bkb/euls/pipe/mek/greaves...early radiance after hood if you have free farm is also great route, only lane matchups where i lose as necro is jugg/AM, necro usually beats any carry and forces them to jungle... skill build is Q-E-Q-E-Q-R-Q-W, i rarely get early W unless i really have to like if i'm against an ursa cause lvl2 E scales really well from lvl1 E
do note that SnK has HP regen and Mana regen AMP which works stupid strong with your E.....holy locket is stupid for Q and if you have a mek and the +32hp talent nobody in your team should get burst down if you use Q+locket+mek on them
@@DellaVas ~5.6k. The most team utility item I build is lotus, and most often I used it as a way to purge a silence or root off myself without having to pop my bkb. I don't like the positioning Eul's leaves you in. I strongly believe Greaves is bad value, and pipe is better off as Eternal Shroud. Going items like travels and blink ensures you can safely keep side lanes shoved hard, and that you continue to scale. It also means you have a lot more freedom to pick your engagements based on cooldowns and relative power spikes. I start with tango, x2 faerie fire, quelling, branch, mantle/circlet. I skip the early Hood unless I know I'm going to be building Eternal Shroud. I prefer to get my mobility options online ASAP, since x2 Null and wand provide a good buffer of stats to survive with, you just need to know your limits with the hero.
Live in the sidelanes and shove away, keeping your eye on the minimap for the key heroes that threaten you. Get Shard as close to 20 mins as you can, it greatly amps your farm and provides you with a really useful tool in fights. I had a game recently where I finished with higher GPM than a top 200 immortal who had a similar start and rushed midas, all because travels and blink give you access to so much farm you otherwise couldn't get to without never playing near your team.
Also one final note, I think Agh's Sceptre is REALLY niche right now, as in you can only build it against heroes who literally will never build nullifier. BKB is also a really underrated Necro item, as it let's you play through opposing BKB without having to kite entirely out of the fight.
EDIT: I also think Radiance is a bit of a trap, and too greedy, especially when paired with travels. The last game I built radiance was actually my lowest game GPM wise in my recent history. Travels, Blink, Shard into Red Blink or Shiva's gives you so much farming capability and presence in fights that it's not funny.
@@777gluegod Check my follow up post
Great video. Can you make a video for returning dota2 players who have not played in like, years?
Man! This might be a sad content 😔
Quit Dota.
I like this comment. I stopped playing due to work, and also pubs going hard with new metas when its mainly based on teamwork.
are you trying to rank after years? if so recommend against it. just play normals to rebuild your mechanics and follow the meta, watch replays, relearn the game as if it’s your first time because every time the meta shifts dota is basically a new game.
Yeah, I was thinking of coming back to dota after a year
Would be nice to list the top 5 or 10 for each pos that meets this criteria.
1. Faceless void, spectre, troll, monkey, luna, nature prophet 2. Zeus, Mars, Nature prophet,Leshrac, kunkka, death prophet, monkey, invoker, dragon Knight, tiny 3. Mars,tiny, dragon Knight, nature prophet,kunkka, leshrac, death prophet, venomnancer, snap fire, beastmaster 4. Ogre magi, witch doctor, Phoneix, elder titan, Shaman, jakiro, venomaner,snapfire,earthshaker, nature prophet, 5. Shaman, jakiro, nature prophet, snapfire, earthshaker, phoneix, eldertitan,ogre magi, witch doctor, treant protector
How to become immortal player: pick shadow shaman
Jenkin: Pick Mario hero.
Me: I choose you Zeus!
Zeus is actually a decent hero in pubs. Even with Pipe on the enemy team you have so much magical damage - it's insane.
With BoT you can push waves really well and safely. Zues naturally builds CDR so they become even better. Teamfight is good for Zeus because the enemies are less coordinated, and you have Sniper range with abilities.
He's also a lane dominator, especially vs melee heroes. With Q build, the enemy simply can't be near their creeps at all, you just get hit for 100hp every time. You have poke, you have burst. You gank really well, even across the map with R and Nimbus.
Would definitely recommend Zeus.
I miss the old days with the active tranq boots. I swear i was the only PA that used that boots plus basilus and i get a basher by 7minutes and snowball from there.
what you have been smoking?
my faviroute hero is treant and I preety much spam the hero because I enjoy him so much but he really falls of hard and I've played a few games inparticular where I have felt I have played to the best of my ability and been hugely impactful and still lost the game.
I really am starting to understand if I am playing in a pub I need to play a support that scales better at least as I dont enjoy playing carry that much.
Ive found even a hero like winter wyvern can scale better as I can play bad all game then an hour into the game land one good ult and win a big team fight and win the game
You said it Jenkins.... Pros should be blamed for this . Most of my teammates think they are yapzor taking ridoculous picks for a pub. Note: I'm a Big time shaman and jakiro spammer. Ez carrying like ' a chicken with My head cut off ' lol
Pros should be blamed for this?
Thanks was waiting for a video for dis topic
Most welcome 😊
13:05 "What actually are the jobs of a troll?" I'm glad Jenkins was able to tackle that
It is true, Im lv30 shadow shaman, playing him from 2800 mmr in 2017 to 6k mmr in 2021.
I am in Archon 2, I do not have any space for farm. players in my bracket always smokes when it is available. maybe the players are now improving.
when you see your offlane picking sf against an AM, what can you do except dying inside ?
This is exactly what I learned the hard way as a pos 5, loved dazzle, omniknight and Io but I often found myself just sitting with a couple of saves and nothing else, then my roster switched quickly to witch doctor, warlock, crystal maiden, jackiro and Venomancer. Be a nuisance early, then control team fights in late. Amazing video!
Alternate title "i heckin love shaman"
In pubs your team mates are “Idiots, greedy, or running around like chickens with their heads off.” Sounds about right.
I just play mid. I have way more control than pos1. if my other lanes fail or my pos5 is trash i lose very fast and dont have time to farm. if i am mid and can gank and win everyone's lane for them, it's likely gg. that's why most smurfs play mid - it's the most impactful position for the first 15 minutes of the game
This mind set is why we get 4-5 mid heroes in one game
offlane supermacy
@@masteraqua2408 you must be playing in 500 mmr
thats why IO & chen & Earth spirit in comp But usually suxk at pubs. And Zeus, Pudge & Axe in pubs but suck in Comp
when i used to play i went from mid/carry to pos5 because i hate losing
^^ this
Thanks for the video man...really open up my mind
What can u do as a pos 1 player when the other 4 players pick greedy heroes who afk farm all game?
For example, most of the time my mid and offlane teammate consists of heroes such as weaver, ck, Sven, riki, WK, jugg.. basically hard carries heroes that don't rotate early and just hit jungle creeps while the enemy team takes all our outer towers by 20-25mn.
How do u win games like that? Sometimes, I think even Miracle or RTZ cannot win in games like that.
My bracket is Ancient btw.
Pick fighting cores or play your farming core like a fighting core. Mostly, pick fighting cores. Don’t pick Medusa for example. Instead pick weaver. Or, pick a farming core with early timings. Drow is a good one, as she comes online and incredibly strong with just manta and pike.
your team and the enemy team will on average be the same
so pick a “do shit” hero that can control the game, and play that way. Lifestealer is a good example
i calibrated from 3900 MMR who grinded to 5500 MMR as a carry main.... the key is don't play carry until you get out of ancient, play pos5 and you will get out of divine1 so easily (probably go lich/jakiro this patch)..if you insist on playing carry, pick an offlane hero in the safelane who scale well with farm like bristleback/night stalker/chaos knight
@@vanguardas9927 but I mean u did grind from 3k to 5k playing carry heroes. Did ur team mostly play their role correctly or ure just that good no matter what ur team's draft is ?
Do you have like videos Abt list of heroes per position that does what your explaining here...
So.. auras hm? I'll start playing chen in that case.
Most importantly *hex now applies break* so good against BB, spectre
I get it, but why don't you ever mention shadow shaman?...
really good video, liked and subbed
as a io player i have to agree with this vid so much ^^ not rly the best pub heroes you never know if ur main tether target just decide to babyrage and afk.
yet here i am 2022 grandmaster io and still playing it cuz its hella fun
Is this a reupload?
this exactly video I need
You say this but then the pos 3 and 4 steal all the farm and your pos 1 can't do anything as a result
Here's shadow shaman in groups with idiots. Hey listen! My ults up can we try and push a tower? Everyone continues to jungle, then you afk drinking your mtn dew and cheetos.
As I advise my friend pick offlaner if you want to climb from guardian to legend.
Can u explain y
A nice Shadow Shaman ad 👍
I have a question, if i que with a friend, position 1 and 5, is it worth focusing more on his game than me being greedier if i have faith he can carry most of my games?
depends on how good a 1 he is, and what heroes he is playing. If he plays heavy late game heroes like medusa, just let him solo lane if its safe, from early and stack camps. If its a kill carry, follow him around as a stunner support and gank people or let him farm greedy while you do stuff close by,and help him if he gets ganked
You really don't understand the concept of positions. If you are position 5, It means that no matter what you do, you should be bottom networth. What you need to do as a pos 5 is just make him able to jungle then you do your thing, either ganking or warding and stacking.
Man, that's a lot of words for "play carry".
Tldr; pick shadow shaman
Nice video! Ty
The memes at the start made this feel like a Jenkins video
This is very helpful, thanks!
Howe the fuck did he know there was a bsj vid there? thats crazy.
Couple days ago in my 3k ranked my pos 4 was joited AF, he was talking like a turnament at his school or something, all game talking, actually really funny. And the sad part he wasnt playing that bad i mean he was REALLY out there. My Marcy offlane was the one going in too deep and blaming us cause we didnt initiate with her.
Very cool thought process class, thanks!
If you want to reach your target bracket quickly, pick these 5 heroes: Legion Commander, Wraith King, Phantom Assasin, Faceless Void, Troll Warlord. No matter what your opponent or team members pick, you can carry them. Thank me later.
If your target bracket is guardian
having more people like you makes dota easier for me .... i just see if jug or lifestealer banned then pick techies....
yeah i will agree more than 100% on that
After like minute 15 i feel like you just edited an old footage in. Because i have heard you say these exact words before. I am not sure where and not sure how. But i am absolutely sure i have heard all you said about roles job and blind pick counters prevention.
Looks like it's time to buy meme hmmer for all heroes in all games
This video is great. There should be way more contect about this. Also way more content about supporting. Because the state of the supports in lower brackets is terrible. They are clueless. Please educate them more because I don't know how much longer i can take this punishment ;(
i hate shadow shaman. Everytime i pick this hero i just feed xD dont know what to do with this hero.
Walk up to a T1 tower and ult every time it’s off cool down. In 3.5k and below you can get all the T1 towers within 20 minutes and that alone opens up the map for victory. Too often SS is holding his ult until he’s at 20% life, throws it and wasted it. Or he keeps it for so long, he could have literally back door’d a T1 and it would have been off cool down again.
Think about your opponents and choose between sheep and shackles. There are plenty of games with a double stun lane and my SS is leveling shackle which is useless for the lane.
skill ur Q at lvl 1
In sea server best to flag for offlane and pick offlane heroes that can scale in any stage of the game with low budget build.
Always expect that your mid will fail and blame..
your carry will go to lol or ml ..
your support will hog all the tomes and wards and will make a mini garden somewhere for his BUTTERFLY.
your pos 4 Robin hood will steal lane creeps from you and donate the gold for the enemy carry or mid.
My pos 5 job : wants to get midas and be greedy. Wants to sit behind the carry, leech the xp and watch him getting beaten by enemies. Forget to stacks. Rush aghs, no glimmer or force. And feed.
My pos 4 job : lazy to follow the enemy's pos 5. Forget to roam. No TP when the team needs him most. Forget about runes. Leech XP. No stacking. Rush aghs. And blame.
My pos 3 job : eats the stacks, eats triangle, eats your farm. Let the enemy's pos 1 free farm. Lose the tower. No aura items, go full damage without BKB. Not sticking with the other cores. Win the fight, back to farm. Basically, can't create space for you.
My pos 2 job : Last pick with a funny hero. Tunnel vision. Wants to eat the triangle and small camps. Forget to do a rotation. Farm, farm and farm. "What the fuck is space creation, i am the midlaner!"
You, as a pos 1 : watch all videos from GamerzClass YT. How to solo carry the game even your teammates are "Chickens with the heads cut off".
I spam pos1 tiny. Having a blast.
This hero got cleave (farm)
Nuke
Disable
Tankiness
Tower damage!!!! Insane dmg!
And doesnt give a shit about counters.
Like what you gonna do? Pick tide?
Aight. Banned
Tinker spam up to 100 hrs then spam support in rank, Dota2 in a nutshell
hi 7k player, i think all of this is for low ranked medals, why do i say this, cuz all of this jobs can be done by every single role depending on who is ahead in terms of FARM, and this is very important, for example, the midlaner can become the pos 3 in case his offlaner is an physical damage scaling type of hero and is having a good time, the midlaner can also become the pos 1 if his carry is an active kind of hero, such as riki slark monkey king razor ck etc etc, pos 4 can become a pos 3 and a pos 5 depending on all of these things, as u keep grinding and getting more mmr, u will realize of all of this, and u will realize that farm priority and whos ahead is probably what decides who is carrying the game, and is not always the carry ;)
Last pick meepo spammer here, pusher, fighter, farmer, escaper, carrier, literally he can do everything. Had 9 rampages in 25days with meepo. 4k bracket
Do you follow anyones gameplay? I am 5.3k pos 2 and still can't play meepo xd
9:13 "think Dota player!! Think!!!!!"
I usually wait for last pick (I only play turbo) and then try and pick something to complete the draft. The overwhelming majority of the time we need some sort of frontliner and I end up picking dusa mid or safelane.
You play only turbo?💀💀
@@broker4075 ya
How jenkin become popular in dota
Just seeing this, still relevant
13:57 team spirit disagree
Cheers for the video
Pick Bounty Hunter. Nothing like dangling the promise of extra gold in front of your teammates' faces to get them to do what you want.
I came for Jenkins.
this Jenkins content is 10/10!
a tip that's missing: pick a hero you're good at, not a hero that's meta/counterpicking
or better get good at a hero that's currently meta :D
@@Kfimenenpah that be true mate
Here I am looking for Mario in DOTA. Where is he??? 😴😴😴
If i provide better support as a pos 5 than the pos 5's on the opposite team, my rank will increase. Regardless of how you do it. This whole analysis is too short sighted imo.
not really. it is harder to gain mmr on lower brackets as pos 5 but 2-5k is extremely good. I used to play herald at around 900mmr as pos 5 and even if you get unlucky with teammates you can get more than 50% chance of winning by taking advantage of the gold on the map. although map awareness and winning lanes are a must. heralds have a harder time usually on coming back from losing laning since a lot pick hard carries that needs farm. plus you can scale using pos5 heroes like shaman, wyvern and Sometimes CM. Although Mid or offlane did help me more get consistent 60-80% winning games on herald and guardian.
My mario hero is a damn underlord LOL
im own that shjt man
I tried oracle coz i watched ur vid and guides it fuckin help.im on 8 winning streak now
This is a verbatim repost from an older video. ruclips.net/video/srZCYBphnA8/видео.html
shaman pickrate after this video +60000%
Wait… This is a repost or what?
1 Dislike from BSJ lol
they way to control the game is to play troll
I mean if you can play NP you can carry hard
IMO scaling on pos 3-5 heroes is overrated in pubs. In modern dota with shards, talents, and more gold, every hero can bring something to the table in lategame.
For ranks below 5k there's always been one clear common factor in the heroes that spend a lot of time in the top 20 for winrate: they're mechanically simple. Ogre, Wraith, Zeus, Underlord, etc. The stuff that ACTUALLY wins or loses games is your fundamentals: positioning, map awareness, showing up to the right fights, communication, etc. With good enough fundamentals, you don't need to style on people, you just need to not fuck up your hero control. And that's why the complicated heroes like Puck, Oracle and Invoker suck - you don't want to have to focus on pressing 500 buttons in the right order. You want to be operating your hero on muscle memory while your conscious brain busy winning the game by playing the right place on the map.
If I look at the supports that I win with in pubs, it's not the ones trying to scale by building Aghs Refresher on Warlock or Midas on Ogre, that shit is not important. It's the ones who understand who on the team wants to fight and positioning themselves on the map to make things happen. A brown boots Bane who shows up in the right place at the right time to Grip their carry is worth a hundred Aghs Lions who I have to beg for 5 minutes to stop following the carry around the jungle or standing around under t2 towers for no reason and come kill people with me after I win lane on QoP.
Great video
Oracle does so much damage thoguh I literally went 12-0 one game as pos 5 oracle and won and I was one level higher than my carry Ed of the game who was pl 1-4. Oracle is not just a save if you play him the way I do where I just focus on damage.
Can someone summarize this one for me xD
To sum it up , dont pick the things u see in pro dota . U are not a pro and u dont know how to play those picks at that lvl.
Axe is super good as a pos5 in lower brackets,if you know how to play offlane and support.
I've been spamming necrophos 5 in unranked (around 4k) mmr and it works. I always find space to farm guardian greaves + pipe + holy locket so that when we go high ground, nobody on my team can die. Run in first and bait fights, pop ghost shroud + mek + death pulse + wand and heal, ult the enemy carry, GG.
More Jenkins!!!
Im so proud of you DADDY😘😘😘
proud of you too son
That about roles is more liqid i think sometime your mid must play like 3 and 4 must start farm and be used like 1 or 2, there was game on ti when invoker stoped farming and let sups take gold in sake of winning game, in pub is more offten. But there is a MASSIVE PROBLEM players try to do this without talking with cores and forcing them to strugle (4pos furions playing like that) that players sometime play good but do not team to end game with timings one + in this is that you got 4th core in that 60min game, but mostly you lose coz oponents just outpushed you. In dota now there is no op heroes these just good chars in cartain way, if you want play 5 than play with disables or slows to win tf (rhasta lion snap), 4 need to be someone who can stop core from doing what they want or buff your cores to do what they need to do with more specialisation than 5 (ww, pango, oracle, es, techie), 3 must give time to cores early to farm and late to make dmg, 2 must do same job as 3 but must be a backup for ending the game, 1 is 1 just dont feed ;d. My conclusion : take hero what you play good and make that hero shine beyond imagine with all that hero can give to team, if you lose a lot matches with it change hero or playstyle.
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In my matches, after the first 4 picks, my team needs another 3 picks just to get close to a normal roster. If I had a penny for everytime when my team mates picked 4 supports first 4 picks, I would be rich. If I see 4 carry, we have a chance, if I see 4 supports I need to win that match under 30 minutes and that never happends in pubs, I just know I lost. This is my main problem with Dota, the game forces to play 60 minutes matches that are lost from pick phase. A dog can see that that match is lost but my team mates can't. Almost every match I get a techies or a pudge, many matches I get both. And don't think that they are good players, it's just like you would play 3vs5 after a while. Some heroes should not be allowed in low brakets, imbecile people pick them and they just ruin games.
whats your rank? sounds quite low mmr. Im dropping and the drafts seem to be getting worse and worse
Meanwhile me picking Chen with 1400 games 59% win rate
If those were all ranked you'd be up 7k MMR from chen
Who is this guys?
lol new channel ?
People should be forced to watch these videos
23 minuts video that could be sumarized in2-3