Great! I am yearning for the rapture. The thing I have learned about God is that he understands where you're actually at. He gives you time; And the rest is between you and Him. Nobody else's business for certain. It's your journey. I took that journey at 19 years old or less. But I have never been the same since. Oh yes, loads of trouble for sure but his presence was with me. An amazing experience. I thought that people would love me but they thought I was odd. I was so sad about that. But as I read the Bible over the years I read that the same thing happened to Jesus, the most precious person in my life, the name of Jesus Christ is the most beautiful name I ever knew. I am no saint. I have sinned. But the difference is this: God convicts you of your sin and when you confess it, he washes you again. But you never lose your father. No! Problems... yes but he doesn't let you get away with it once you belong to him. No different from a parent disciplining their own child. He is certainly the best Father I have ever ever known. So kind and gentle . A God who gently corrects you. But He can be a bit sore! Boy, get a spanking from God and you will know all about it! But He doesn't give up. I didn't even want to talk to Him for two weeks! But then I missed my father so much and I knelt down and apologized. I missed Him and maybe He missed me too! It kina felt like that - a nobody that God loved and cared about. Imagine somebody as beautiful as that? In any event I learned not to offend my father in Heaven again and now I run away from sin. I flee it! And all was subsequently forgiven and forgotten and I was so happy again. Read the last book of the Bible. I bet God put it there on purpose. The book of Revelation , easy to find ..Read chapter 3 verse 20. This is the actual verse I believed and I have never been the same since. I did what it said. Nobody is perfect at all. I am most certainly not, but He is , and I still jump for joy for the God who simply loved and responded to me and cared about me. The biggest change to happen to me is that I stopped cursing. Yes, I used to use the name of Jesus as a curse word. But it all stopped by itself. That very day I asked him in. I didn't even know how to believe. Believe in God! What does it mean? But I was on my knees. And all I prayed was this!. That man told me if I believe in you and invite you in. I want you! And he came. I was a bit spooked but nothing strange happened. I was at peace. And he came I think as I slept and forgave all my sins ....and you know what? He loves you too exactly the same my dear precious friends. Invite him in. He never ever left me. Never!!! And the name of Jesus the Lord is the most precious name to me since I was 19 or thereabouts. He said it in the Bible. I will never, no never leave you nor forsake you. And He kept His promise through lots and lots of trouble. James from Ireland
Study your Bible. This man cannot use scripture to prove or explain this false teaching. He's cherry picking scripture, as pretribbers do, to TRY to explain a false teaching.
Rather than try to participate in this debate, I choose to use a quote from Game of Thrones, from Arya who has traveled across the sea in search of that one person & being turned away at the door she says in desperation, "I have no where else to go." He immediately responds to her, "You have everywhere else to go." & the door is slammed shut in her face. Satanic tactics have every way possible to deceive & distort any way possible away from the ONLY ONE TRUTH THAT COMES ONLY FROM GOD. Jesus personal promise from the Gospel of John 5:24-25 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word & believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, & shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming & now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; & those who hear will live." [ "Most assuredly, I say to you . . . " coming directly from the mouth of Jesus, can be translated: your very life depends upon you believing this truth that can only come from God ] So, you decide if you believe every other possible distortion & distraction to lead you astray OR the only truth that there is from God. THAT is the narrow path, people, 1-on-1 single file personal intimate relationship with the Holy Spirit to communicate with Jesus directly to see the face of God the Father. I believe in the blessed hope, that the entire reason God sent His Son was to save the world from His Wrath against sin & evil, there is nothing else that I need to be saved from, Jesus died so that I might live, Jesus rose from the tomb, death has lost it's sting, He walked the earth for 40 days before ascending up into heaven to claim His Prophet, Priest & King throne to rule at the right hand of His Father God Almighty, He went His Holy Spirit to birth His church on Pentecost & has been building His Church through those who believe His promise . . . He will return with His Church behind Him & reign on earth for 1000 years. AMEN, Lord Jesus, come quickly !!
Re: pastors comment 24:44 Had a dream doing just that many years ago. Was running down a large hall with red carpet checking out all the rooms. It was like a large bed and breakfast with your own backyard. Each place was uniquely made to please a variety of people.
Thank you for the wonderful, powerful message. Me and my husband had disagreements about rapture and second coming of Jesus. And I struggled to explain to him because he did not believe in rapture before. Now we can come to read and share what the Bible says. 🙏🏼♥️
Agreed! Just like Joseph had his gentile bride before the seven year time of trouble, and Israel is then saved. Also, there was a great harvest before that. Moses also had his gentile bride and God called him back to save Israel.
I thank God for this message of truth. As a believer, I should be looking forward to the rapture, which is the blessed hope, the glorious appearing of our Geat God and Saviour, Jesus Christ. God bless you man of God Watching from Zambia.
@@kazziemaccie 2nd Thessalonians 2: 1 through 3. .....then just be honest with yourself. Midtrib rapture at its earliest. Everyone really needs to purchase the book: BE FORE GOD'S WRATH by H.L. NIGRO and/or THE HOPE OF CHRISTS SECOND COMING by Samuel P. TREGELLES.
On Jewish marriage in Israel… I lived with my in -laws for two years. Only by the grace of God did we all get through that period. 😂 I thank the Lord for their generosity.
Good teaching except for the misunderstanding with regards to predestination which is not in reference to being born again but is about those who are born again being predestined to glory.
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 1 THES 5:9-10
1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, I always see this pop up on Pre and Mid Is the Great Tribulation God's Wrath? The Answer is an Emphatic NO!!! You would have to be alive on earth after the 2nd coming if you want to experience that... "But I don't want to go throught the tribulation!"... Don't worry, 33% odds that wormwood will take you out first. 2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. My greatest fear is that many who say they are part of The Elect are going to be fooled by the AC or will lose their faith and won't be leaving if it is Post. What if it is and you and the rest of the congregation is wrong?! There are much worse things to believe, like saying the ten commndments don't apply to you because you are saved by grace. Jesus did NOT say that! Consider this a warning. Acts 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. 1 Thessalonians 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. No, we won't know the day or hour, but we will be able to make a very qualified guess, we are children of the light. We prepare for and are not surprised by a thief in the night. Non-believers won't take this well, they are in darkness and will realize their error when they see He is coming. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. THIS IS WRATH!!! Apophis (1100ft asteroid, near ELE) will fly within 20K miles on 13APR29 and if it hits a certain window during its flyby, it will return on Palm Sunday 13APR36. Note the date seems to be an apocalyptic sign! That is the day that Jesus entered Jerusalem on a donkey as King, you know, the mode of travel his great, great...grandfather King David and all(?) the other Israelite Kings used. Think second coming of the King... I really like Pastor H., but there is no day of the rapture mentioned in the Bible, only the Day of the Lord, and since the 2nd coming is the Day of the Lord and not the 3rd coming, no matter how eloquently he tries to phrase his message and regardless of the passages he refers to, he is wrong. You will NOT escape the tribulation. Your attendance is mandatory. Some will escape, many others will not be so lucky. Revelation says 1/3rd of mankind will be eliminated by wormwood and another 1/3rd by the AC, do you think these are all non-believers & new believers? That idea is obtuse, sorry. This is your warning. Don't worry, it is coming very soon. This will be the second most important event in the history of the humankind after the birth, life, death, and resurection of Jesus. Many won't reach that day! It is not the time to lose faith, you must be stronger, He will not abandon his Elect, his will SHALL be done. Go with God
It's unfortunate how twisted up you are in scriptures. Be ready to go. We are saved by faith alone in Jesus Christ alone. Nothing else. The KJV, NKJV, AMPLIFIED, NLT are good versions of the Bible to read. Ask God to guide you through understanding His word before opening it. You're not there yet, but never give up. Focus on your relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.
I’m relieved to know I’m not alone on when. I’m praying for pre, the suffering feels unbearable, but the bible says “hold tight to you’re crown” for a reason, we have many prophecy’s still to come to pass
Perhaps the Rapture is God calling His Holy Spirit Home. And since the Holy Spirit endwells in those of us who are born again, we go too. Hence The Church Age comes to an end. The Holy Spirit will still be involved in the affairs on earth, but it will be as it was in the Old Testament. Those of us who truly love Him, born again, watching and waiting, longing to be with Him, are truly blessed. This Age of Grace will come to an end.
You're right. The power of the church is the Holy Spirit. Being God, He can not be withdrawn from any spot on the universe but can resume His former estate.
Think of it this way. At a school board meeting, a Christian board member votes "no" to allowing the introduction of graphic sexual content to promote LGBT lifestyles...that member is "restraining evil" because the Holy Spirit is in him/her. At an auto repair shop a Christian mechanic says he will not go along with charging a customer for parts and work that was never done...that Christian mechanic is "restraining evil" because the Holy Spirit is in him. Now look at the passage in Thessalonians that talks about the removal of the restrainer...what is implied is the removal of the Christian who acts in a Godly manner because he /she has been transformed the the presence of the Holy Spirit in them. This is just one more example of how the Bible does teach a pre-trib rapture. The book of Revelation does say that there will be people who accept Jesus Christ and that all of them will pay with their lives...so the Holy Spirit will still be convicting people of sin and unrighteousness...and these people will be those who have never heard the "good news" of Jesus Christ. Anyone who heard the gospel and rejected it will not accept it during the Tribulation.
Hell will be full of narcissistic and power hungry souls who pursued power and sin. They never once repented. It's sad... but Jesus makes His case, and the Devil makes his case. They chose the Devil... See you in the clouds when the Trump of God is blown... maranatha
Hi friend If people understood who the Philadelphia church was For when she appeared on the earth 🌎 Then we would see how they are decieving us one more time with this pretrib rapture See, scripture gives us hard-core evidence when the Philadelphia church would appear, and she was kept from the hour of trial Basically, the Philadelphia church came upon the scene while church and state had no power She was kept from the middle ages of the mid evil church of Rome. The dark days This was a period of tribulation She was also kept from the mark of the beast For even the laodician church is given time from that hour to receive the truth from the Philadelphia church But the laodician church rejects the Philadelphia church message to prepare for the mark of the beast So the laodician church is spewed out of Jesus' mouth Because they prefer the precepts of men who bring paganism into our Christian lives
@Pre-Tribulation Well, the laodician church must have an evil angel over them Because they worship the devil at the end of time Don't you see We are the church that is filled with material wealth, and when the mark comes about, we are not going to give up our riches for nobody Jesus said it would be like this, and it will happen for the majority See the Philadelphia Church brought back the 4th commandment of God to all churches But the laodician church hates the biblical sabbath And they want Sunday, which will bring them wealth upon the earth
@Pre-Tribulation Jesus has his 7th day sabbath in Rev chapter 3 verse 14 The creation of God In the book of Genesis It shares with us what Jesus created at creation The 7th day, he created a day of rest for his creation In verse 18 Jesus counsel us to buy gold from him, for it is tried in a fire 🔥 Many prefer the iron that turns to rust that men have to offer them
Skip has done a wonderful way to explain this. All Long where we end up is up to us. Only through Jesus, following His ways, will lead us home. How this is explained can be understood by all those who love our Lord as everything comes from the Father directly to His Son. In the meantime, Jesus left the Holy Spirit, what more could we ask? 🙏 Pray, and be filled with love and TRUST in the Lord God Almighty and His Son the Lord Jesus Christ.
John 15:18-20 (KJV) If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep your's also.
Thanks brother Skip. I have a question concerning Jn 14:1-6 Are these verses talking about a pre-trib rapture? It appears to me these verses are clearly talking about AFTER the resurrection. When I hear pre-tribers teach. They see a pre-trib rapture in every verse. A good example of this is. We are not appointed to wrath. 1Thes5:9 How in the world do people see a pre-trib rapture in this verse? We are not appointed to wrath is 100% true. However, if people would study Gods word. They would understand the wrath of God comes on the LAST DAY. Rev6:17DAY Rm2:5 DAY. Zeph1:15 DAY. Jesus confirms this in Jn6:39-40,44,54. (Believers) and Jn12:48 (Unbelievers) Both on the LAST DAY. The wrath of God is NOT the tribulation period. There is only ONE way to keep from being deceived. Study the word of God and ask the Holy Spirit for help. Yours in Christ
It's actually a time that the father chooses for the son to go get the bride. (It's partly why it states only the father knows the time and date.) Also the twinkling of an eye Is in reference to the new moon. No one knows the time or hr only the heavenly father does, which is on the feast of trumpets. Very important Hebrew and christians become one. It explains the whole wedding and things that are common to Hebrew knowledge and ancient Hebrew It explains it so Beautifully it'll take your heart and open it like you've never imagined. It is so by far the Greatest love story You won't be able to turn to the right or left The LOVE is beyond phenomenal But important to know the Hebrew background To put it all together to feel His heart ❤️
Dn 9:20-27 speaks of the 70 weeks prophecy of the Jews , this was stopped at the 69 th week, with the killing of Jesus and the resurrection starts the church age, this grace ends with the rapture of the saints/ the gentile church . See 1 Thessalonians 2:8
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No, because the dead in Christ rise first. Followed immediately by living Christians. And, I agree with you there is only one coming. In a prophetic vision I experienced this and saw Jesus and his angels coming in the clouds extending from horizon to horizon. Every eye had to see. And they were singing a new song about New Jerusalem the city of God descending from the sky aka heaven to the Earth. Jesus extends his right hand and a blue light lifts believers up to join him. After this many people who are still on Earth attempt to come against him. He opens his mouth and fire comes out and consumes them in an instant as though they never existed to begin with.
I’m a pretribulationist, and believe in the Rapture. I believe that we will be gone before the tribulation begins. Thessalonians, 5:9 God did not appoint us to wrath, the wrath of Gods judgement. And if you read Revelation 3:10, it says: Because thou hast kept the word of my patients, I will keep the, from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them, who dwell on the earth.
Christians will be there during the tribulation and they will be forced to make a decision on whether to accept the mark or not. It seems quite clear to me that Tribulation is something we will all have to go through and many of us may be killed for keeping our faith and not denying Christ. This is what it means by the hour of temptation. We are all going to be tempted to go along with receiving the mark. The rapture is unorthodox theology, we are not getting beaming up out of there like Scottie. Of course, I could be wrong and you may be right but I am 100 percent certain that I'm not.
REV 6...The seals begin a time of tribulation. Seal 5 shows those under the altar who perished during events of seals 1 thru 4. Seal 6 is a great cosmic event and earthquake that results in worldwide devastation or great tribulation. CH 7 CONFIRMS THIS when another group of ppl from all nations are in front of throne. These are worldwide believers in Christ who did not survive effects of Seal 6. Rev 6:16 says it is the wrath of the Lamb, as He is the one opening the seals. Notice all the events happening thru Rev 13 when the antichrist comes into full power and people cannot buy or sell without the mark, and must worship the image of the beast. Bible is clear that believers are still here as the beast wars against God's people.. Many will be jailed or killed as stated in Rev 13. Then, we see in Rev 14:14-16 , Christ comes on the clouds and reaps the harvest, THAT is the time of a rapture of any faithful believers who did not take the mark or worship the beast image. Immediately after that an angel begins gathering evil men into the wine press of God's wrath. This BEGINS God's wrath. Rev 16 clearly points out the bowls are God's wrath being finished. So yes the faithful believers, who were survived and endured from Rev 6 thru 14, will be taken out before the Father's wrath is poured out!!!!
@@nessa4165 You are correct. It is Biblical what you say. Unfortunately, the pretribulation teachers are false teachers. The Bible calls them wolfs in sheep clothing, leading carnal Christians away from the Biblical truth. They take part of the Bible and twist it to give gullible carnal Christians false teachings. Sad for them. Praying for them. They will be shocked when the antichrist will show soon and they will have to face the choice of following Christ no matter the cost or give in to the antichrists.
@@nessa4165 I believe the Rapture will happen before the 1st seal. Jesus mentioned Days of Noah and Days of Lot about End Times and both had an ESCAPE method and then judgment. We escape judgment.
@@rondagallawa2799 I'm asking, WHERE in the chpt...what verse speaks of us here? The 24 elders represent the CHURCH, & they're in heaven. You simply restated what you initially said, that the chpt still has the bride here & I'm asking what is it you're reading that states that?
@@rondagallawa2799 *Rev 19:7* says, "Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife (THE CHURCH) hath made herself ready." (by means of the Bema). *Verse 8* pictures our "readiness *=====>* And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints." In a traditional Jewish wedding, that ceremony would take place in the home of the bridegroom or his parent's home, & you'll recall in *John 14* Jesus said He will receive us unto himself, that where He is, there will we be also. He didn't say, "Where you are, there will I be also." When Christ descends from heaven, He will lead the way, *=====>* "And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean." We're seen here once again, "clothed in fine linen, white and clean." The wedding festivities & marriage supper to take place AFTER the wedding, will be held here on earth with the tribulation saints & OT saints the special guests.
Only one coming of Jesus not two. Rapture of church is at the end of this evil age. Never does mention two comings, I used to believe in pretrib until I read and studied scripture. studied
Missed the sermon? Normal arguments consist of points which support your point of view. So example: I grew up amillennial and am now pre-trib [my point of view]. I became pre-trib because 1. the Tribulation is 7 years or, the 70th week of Daniel. Where was the Church in the first 69 weeks? The 70th week is an uniquely Jewish event. 2. God poured out His wrath at the flood, on Sodom and in the Tribulation. 1 Thes 5:9 says God will keep us from wrath, so which is it? There's many more reasons, but this is an example of a rational way to bring up a point of contention. Your, "this is what God does because I say it" does not carry weight. I have asked first the people in my first church (Professors at Westminster Seminary) and every post toastie and mid tribber and have never gotten a good answer other than, this is what we believe. Good luck with that!
Isaiah 30:11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us. Acts 22:18 And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me. Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Revelation 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
The tribulation is something we will all have to go through. Mainstream Christianity has sadly misunderstood scripture on this and many Christians will end up being dismayed. Jesus tells us quite clearly that those of us who endure until the end shall be saved. Not the beginning or the middle. "But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved." Matthew 24:13
Mainstream Western Christianity. For many believers in China or Middle East, every day is tribulation. To announce that there are just 3.5 years left to tribulation is actually good news to them.
📜✝️✝️✝️120 years Noah preached......the Gospel of Jesus has been preach for over 2 millimium......the return of Jesus is at the door....even as i type/speak...📜✝️✝️✝️..... Shalom Maranatha ✝️✝️📜 Yahweh/Yeshua saved Noah through the flood.... Yeshua/Jesus will save us from the great tribulation when he returns and takes the Church from the evil that is to take place upon planet earth ....are you ready?...where will you spend Eternity....📜✝️ Heaven or 🔥......read john 3:16 kjv✝️
"He came unto His own, and His own received Him not", but _glory to God,_ they'll one day cry out, "Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord like *Ps 118:26* says which is ALSO noted in *Matt **23:39* in the Olivet discourse which all takes place @ the *END* of the tribulation!
How many people have gone to heaven also how many are in hell if we go to heaven when we die then why the rapture also the unbelievers will be cast into hell after the last judgement
The Bible is a prophetic book. Approximately thirty percent of the Bible was prophetic when the writer wrote it. These prophecies address events that have already happened and things still to come. In Matthew 24, the disciples asked Jesus a question about the signs of his coming and of the end of the age. We have been studying his response for the last two thousand years. It seems every generation points to or considers their generation to be the one where Jesus will return. While it hasn’t happened yet, eventually one of those generations will be right. Because prophecy is such an expansive topic, it is impossible to give you a full-fledged analysis of all Bible prophecy in one article. I can, however, give you a few things that will aid you in understanding end times Scriptures and prophecies in the Bible.
Then they did not know their Scriptures. When Jesus's own disciples asked Him He said nothing of a "rapture". Instead He said this, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days: ‘The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’ At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other."
@@jannaswanson271 Jesus mentioned Days of Noah which is ESCAPE then Judgment Jesus mentioned Days of Lot which is ESCAPE then Judgment Are you making a case for Judgment then escape? Because that's not an escape... that's a rescue. God didn't rescue Noah or Lot. God gave them SPECIFIC instructions on how to escape judgment...
@@jannaswanson271 Jesus did not teach of a pretrib rapture, because He was talking to and sent to Israel. Only Paul speaks of a pretrib rapture, and it is for the Body of Christ Church, not for Israel.
@@bugsocsollie1694 There is only one Spirit, one root. Paul does not speak of the pre-trib rapture because every verse that is used, someone has to say, "this is about the pre-trib rapture" because the text does not say it. It is a myth of men.
@@Kman. yes, i do, the most important Words of our lives ( Christ's Words, the only Words that can and are our faith, Romans 10 : 17, Matthew 4 : 4.) It is all about the finale event , Christ call and teachers us "gather together " Man say " rapture " ...the way the birds did with the seed that fell by the road. Matthew 25 : 1 - 13.
@@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337 Well when you skip & skate thru the chapter, _ALLLL_ the way down to a few verses and just overlook or discard the *CONTEXT* of the chapter, sure...you can make it say w/ever your little heart desires. The "GATHERING" you allude to from *Matt 24* takes place on earth, so it's not even an event that takes place in the air like the rapture. *2ndly,* it is ANGELS who "GATHER" people up, & the Lord _SURE_ won't need the help of angels being dispatched to "GATHER" us up...we simply rise to meet Him. In *Matt 25,* here again...all that unfolds is here on the EARTH, not like the rapture event in the air.
@@Kman. read Matthew 24 form verse 1, same(believers in Christ) of Christ's disciples asked 3 questions privately ,( believers asked Christ about His coming, end of this era) Content is a action performed in steps: Firstly get all the information together. Not in one place is writen down what will it be like. Like only 2 resurrections: 1 Corinthians 15 : 23. Like only 2 comings of Christ .Hebrew 9 : 28. You and i did not wrote the Words, but we want to obey, understand,known God's Will. If we do not look ( especially at Christ's Words for me more ) all the scriptures, the picture we came to will be wrong . The most important is Christ. If you hold on to Christ's Words, who can make you leave those Words? May God keep us in full obedience to Christ. Luke 9 : 35.
@@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337 It appears as if some of my reply does not show up, so I will post the few thoughts below & label them *CONTINUED.* Now, to your most recent comment... The *CONTEXT* can be found in the preceding chapter where we read, "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem..." Christ didn't say, "O church, church..." Keep in mind, the CHURCH had not been established @ this point, and we continue to read thru the entire Olivet Discourse, we'll find nearly *E V E R Y* verse has s/thing to say about the Jews, NOT the church. The *CONTEXT* concerns the coming KINGDOM & what will take place leading up to it, it's NOT about the coming CHURCH, and because we know the context is about the coming kingdom here on earth, Christ viewed the disciples who He spoke with after leaving the TEMPLE, as pillars in the coming KINGDOM... *=====>* _"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."_ **Matt **19:28* We know Christ has _L O N G E D_ to gather the Jews time & time again, but was met with rejection each & every time... *=====>* _"...how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!"_ *Matt **23:27* It's right there in the scripture, & to read the CHURCH into the passage, we would be FORCING the church into the text in an effort to support a narrative is what I'm thinking. The "GATHERING" then that we read of in the last portion of the dialogue will be when they (the Jews) finally come to faith in their Messiah & cry out, "Blessed in he that cometh in the name of the Lord", *Matt **23:39* _"And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."_ *Matt **24:31* will be prophesy getting fulfilled as found in *Isaiah...* _"“And it shall come to pass _*_IN THAT DAY,_*_ that the _GREAT TRUMPET_ shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the Lord in the holy mount at Jerusalem.”_ *Isaiah 27:13* _"“Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the _*_EAST_*_ and gather thee from the _*_WEST;_*_ I will say to the _*_NORTH_*_ give up; and to the _*_SOUTH,_*_ Keep not back: bring my sons from _*_FAR,_*_ and my daughters from the _*_ENDS OF THE EARTH”_* *Isaiah 43:5,6* All the best to you in your search for truth, *MARANATHA!* *CONTINUED from o/comment that maybe didn't show up:* The "GATHERING" you allude to from *Matt 24* takes place on earth, so it's not even an event that takes place in the air like the rapture. *2ndly,* it is ANGELS who "GATHER" people up, & the Lord _SURE_ won't need the help of angels being dispatched to "GATHER" us up...we simply rise to meet Him. In *Matt 25,* here again...all that unfolds is here on the EARTH, not like the rapture event in the air.
I would like to say I differ with Skip regarding no literal mansions in Heaven. Too many people have died & seen the city. Hear Dale Black, pilot, testimony on RUclips, on how he saw the city as big as any major city in the world. Either way, a room or a mansion, or even garden, all our questions about it, & everything else, will be answered in a split second after we take our last breath on earth, & first in eternity & as long as we are welcomed there it really won’t matter. The bliss & peace & beauty will surpass any & all our wildest dreams & expectations. The way things are going on earth, shouldn’t be long now….🙏🏻✝️👑🏆
Thank you. Very good. I still can't see how John 14 is talking about only the rapture. The disciples were not raptured, they died awful deaths: Jesus probably took them on their deaths. Certainly there are similarities with 1st Thessalonians 4:16-17 Even the pastor said ... when I die and go to the place prepared for me. I am a Pre Tribber but not because of John 14:1-4
John 14:1-4 is talking about Jesus coming to receive us to himself and take us to a place He prepared in the Father’s House. When we get a harpazo, we see the Bride in the Father’s House in Heaven, Revelation 22:17. And during the return, Revelation 13:8-15
When Jesus's disciples asked Him about the end of days in Matthew 24 He said, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days: ‘The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’ At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other." There are no clear Pre-Trib verses. The verses used to "support" pre-trib are just verses where someone has to tell you what they mean because they don't actually say there is a rapture.
I find it intriguing that everyone who claims Christianity assumes they are the church going in the rapture. There will be quite a lot of people disappointed when they are still here. The Bible says “pray you are accounted worthy to escape all these things coming on the earth”. Jesus even said narrow is the gate, and FEW there be that find it. That tells me, that people best take stock in themselves and study the Word, and ask the Lord God if they are going. Few literally means a puny amount. Baptist’s think they are, Protestant’s think they are etc etc. somebody is wrong.
People who would pass from this life into the presence of Jesus by way of DEATH & not the rapture, only NOW think it would be a "disappointment", because our finite minds might want to be part of that great & glorious day, the RAPTURE & the "thrill" of it all. But hey, once we see Christ face/face, any "DISAPPOINTMENT" will vanish, for our immortal bodies will be void of any such emotion. Now, in response to you bringing this up, *=====>* _"pray you are accounted worthy to escape all these things"_ Those words are extracted from a passage that has ZERO to do with the church. Our "WORTHINESS" is wrapped up having placed our trust in the finished work of Christ on Calvary. All the best to you in your search for truth, *MARANATHA!*
@@Kman. Sadly you know nothing, nothing of the Word of God. What you know is taught by the precepts of men, and not of the Lord God. Mark 4:12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. This verse describes your condition. Tell me, what were the keys that Jesus gave to Peter?
@@deewilson888 Jesus gave Peter the keys to the Kingdom... But the Jews rejected the Kingdom with the Stoning of Stephen in Acts Chapter 7. We are the Age of Grace.
Respectfully, I don't see the connection between these verses and the rapture of the modern church. Proper rendering of a place is an abode not a mansion. Regarding the "rapture"....why put on the whole armor of God in order to stand in the evil day if your are not even going to be here? Is the church going to be here when the Kingdom of God comes to this very earth in full expression which is a certainly? Why did not God rapture the very early VIRGIN church that was poor in money and goods of this earth but literally turned the whole known world upside down and were subsequently hounded, tortured, imprisoned, boiled in oil (John), burned at the stake, skinned alive, fed to wild animals, and forced to flee and live in seclusion in damp dark caves and catacombs....Fox's Book of Martyrs? Why did not God rapture Middle East Christians who were recently raped, beheaded, burned in cages, and forced to watch as their children were murdered? Questions but never any answers from rapture believers....who have swallowed this myth hook line and sinker and cannot be convinced otherwise. This is a false teaching which is not Biblical on its face and is not in harmony with the record of God's dealings with mankind for untold thousands of years. Never ending dreams, visions, god told me, god showed me, warnings, horrifying and terrifying discoveries, playing with numbers and symbols trying to make them mean what they do not mean, signs on top of signs with everything the least bit out of the ordinary becoming a rapture sign like Chinese balloons, and seeing rapture in just about every book of the Bible. And what exactly has happened after months and years of this....nothing....but then they just move the goal line down the field and keep on spewing their religious propaganda thus compounding their error!! This belief stems from carnal minds of human understanding pouring over the dead letter that kills spiritually and seeing things that are not really there and reading between the lines which is private interpretation and taboo! The modern church has been saturated and brainwashed by this and other beliefs from the same source and thus, is stumbling in the dark of error and confusion with little light, little power, little authority, and very little influence so they cannot even turn the block upside down. GOD IS GOOD AND HIS MERCY ENDURETH FOREVER AND EVER!
@@jellysleeks9428 You think you need to pray for me because you disagree with my belief....at least you did not call me a name or worse. The fact is....that all you have is speculation and conjecture and no Biblical authority.....something that has be predicted for decades and decades and has not happened yet...and I might add, will not happen. Take care and stay safe.
Where does the doctrine of pre-tribulation rapture come from? I'm not at all sure you know.. it comes from the council of Nicaea May of 325 AD. Being a self proclaimed Protestant you should know that, that is a doctrine of the Catholic Church. Folk's the early Church searched the scriptures daily to make sure what was being taught them lined up with God's Word. Why are we not doing the same??? Z28-320.
If you read the teachings of Jesus and also the teachings of the apostles and Daniel, you will see that Jesus is coming back with power and great glory, as lightening shines from the east to the west. Every eye shall see him those also who pierced him. At that time those who have died in Christ will be resurrected. There is no secret "rapture". There is ONE second coming of Christ and ONE resurrection of the dead. Be not deceived! Your teachers have corrupted scripture in favor of vain philosophies of men.
The Rapture isn't a glorious every eye will see event. It's a flash, and we are gone. The Rapture is an escape from the 7 headed, 10 horn Beast system which is fully demonic.
The ones left behind after we are zapped away in the twinkling of an eye, are faced with the Devils Mark for Salvation. The angels, at The Return, where every eye Will SEE, in Matthew 24:31 will scoop up and separate Mark and No Mark takers. The Mark takers are gathered first and burned. The wheat refused the Mark. They are taken to Jerusalem for the wedding fiest of the Lamb. We return with Jesus. We have our glorified bodies.
One resurrection? Then why were we told to hope that we take part in the FIRST resurrection? You're unbiblical in your stance. Look up the pre-trib rapture in the old testament.
If the John 14 passage is indeed the Rapture of the Church, the Body of Christ; then we've just made Paul a liar! 1 Cor 2:7 describes a mystery as something never before revealed but hidden in the mind of God. Also at 1 Cor 15:51 Paul describes the Rapture as a mystery. Therefore from PAUL is the first mention of the Rapture of the Church. The John 14 is certainly describing a catching out of certain folks, but if we apply it to the Rapture of the Church we have shut off any further study of the precise event to which Jesus was describing at John 14.
This is what bible says about Rapture** "1 Corinthians 15-31 KJV " Behold I show you a mystery, we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed in aoment, in the twinkle of an eye, At the Last Trumpet. "
The Last Trump spoken by Paul is the Last Trump from the Fiest of Trumpets. Twinkling of an Eye is am idiom of the Fiest of Trumpets. It's where the trumpeter takes a huge breath and blow as long and loud as they can on one breath. Paul was simply explaining what the SOUND of the Trump of God will sound like.
Dude...forgive me, but in reading thru the comments, I THOUGHT I was done reading your derogatory comments. Pfft...at LEAST you could have compiled them into one comment, 'eh? And get this, *N O N E* of your claims to truth included any SCRIPTURE which leads me to ask you this, "Troll much?" *smh*
Jesus Himself told us that there would not be a pretribulation rapture. Read ALL of the parable of the wheat and the tares and His explanation to His apostles. It can't be clear. Please, if you're going to comment, be nice. I don't mind debating the subject, but treat me like a Christian should
@@Pre-Tribulation I love the debate, & seriously...I would hope the gentleman is honestly putting together a case that shows the CHURCH in the parable of the wheat & tares, and I agree...I've read thru a lot of what Jesus said, but I've never read where He stated, "No pre-tribulation rapture".
The key to when the rapture takes place is this verse. Revelation 10:7 ESV but that in the days of the trumpet call to be sounded by the seventh angel, the mystery of God would be fulfilled, just as he announced to his servants the prophets. A couple of points regarding this scripture. First, God has to make known to a believer the details concerning the mystery of God. Colossians 1:27 KJVS [27] To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: This mystery and glory is realized at the seventh, last trumpet. 1 Corinthians 15:51-55 KJVS Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, [52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. [53] For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. [54] So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. [55] O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? Second point, Re 10:7 states, in the days the trumpet call to be sounded by the seventh angel. The word days is non specific to any given day. In the 12 chapter of the book of Revelation, you have the manchild being caught up to the throne of God, Re 12:5, and the remnant of the woman seed in verse 17. Who have to be murdered by refusing the mark of the beast, Re 20:4. Revelation 12:17 KJVS And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Jesus mentioned Days of Noah and it had an ESCAPE method and then judgment Jesus mentioned Days of Lot which is ESCAPE then Judgment Are you making the case for Judgment then escape? That's not an escape if you go THROUGH IT! Would you abandon your wife and children to human traffickers??? Judgment then escape is ridiculous.
@@Pre-Tribulation He only mentions those days as of the attitude of people, the level of lawlessness that the entire world will be under, the lack of faith in God. Jesus said, When I return will I find faith.
@@Pre-Tribulation Judgment started at the house of God close to 2,000 years ago. 1 Peter 4:17-19 KJVS For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? [18] And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? [19] Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
@@lukewagner8871 That verse is saying that we should police our own... but hey. Not everyone has great reading comprehensive skills. Maybe you should deal with books with colors and illustrations
Really simple- IT has already happened in 70ad. Because Jesus told his disciples that they would no more preach to the cities of Israel, That they would see him Jesus coming with his father's angels and his father's kingdom. The fact is if Jesus didn't come back to take to heaven his own . The Bible is a kids book! If you don't understand it, maybe you are not a child of the kind. IF THE APOSTLES ARE NOT SETTING IN HEAVEN NEXT TO JESUS ON 12 THRONES IN REAL TIME, THEN WE TODAY CAN LIVE BY WHAT WE THINK IS RIGHT IN OUR OWN EYES. SPEW THE DEVILS BREW OUT YOUR MOUTH AND JOIN THE JESUS ARMY THAT IS GOING TO TAKE BACK THE EARTH FROM THE DEVIL AND PRESENT IT BACK TO GOD WHICH IS THE TRUE CHURCH REASONABLE SERVICE. JESUS ISN'T ENLISTING COWARDS. WARRIORS; THAT IS HE IS AFTER. JESUS RUNS TO FIGHTS AND IF YOU ARE TRULY HIS , YOU WILL TOO.
Pretrib is a fib The dead in Christ must be resurected first then those of us who are alive and remain are caught up to meet them....the dead in Christ are not resurrected until Revelations 20.....read your Bibles not your Chuck tracks circular theology....,pretrib is a fib....prepare yo endure tribulation, persecution, and suffering just as the rest of the saints throughout history....,stop thinking you are better than all the christians before you who patiently endured tribulation, persecution, suffering....pickup your cross and stop watching left behind movies and formulating your theology from sci fi cinema....
so according to you, the dead is waiting in their graves but when they where alive some had for example clinical death experiance, they met the Lord , saw Paradise but now they should wait in their graves ?? this is exactly what those pre trib doctrine preachers believe that the death is waiting in graves till they will fly . they have watched too much that movies without annalising.
Jesus mentioned Days of Noah and that event was escape then judgment... Jesus mentioned Days of Lot, which ALSO was escape then judgment... Are you making a case for Judgment then escape? Because judgment then escape isn't an escape, that's a rescue.
@@jannaswanson271 Jesus mentioned Days of Noah which is ESCAPE then Judgment Jesus mentioned Days of Lot which is ESCAPE then Judgment Are you making a case for Judgment then escape? Because that's not an escape... that's a rescue. God didn't rescue Noah or Lot. God gave them SPECIFIC instructions on how to escape judgment...
No rupture different from second coming of Jesus Christ. Matthew chapter 13 teaches the second coming and harvest once for all time. It will happen in the start of seventh millennium. Words 13:39 is that harvest is synonym for second coming. If the harvest started it will not stop for an interval of seven years, but harvest is continuous till everything in the field harvested. That is the summer harvest. So put faith in NO MAN but read and study New testament with holy spirit. Everything will discerned with holy spirit.
Matthew 13: JEZUS own WORDSThen Jesus dismissed the crowds and went into the house. His disciples came to Him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.” 37He replied, “The One who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38The field is the world, and the good seed represents the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. 40As the weeds are collected and burned in the fire, so will it be at the end of the age. 41The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will weed out of His kingdom every cause of sin and all who practice lawlessness. 42And they will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father.f He who has ears, let him hear. THE HARVEST IS THE END OF THE AGE NOT BEFORE THE TRIBULATION MATTHEW 24;So if they tell you, ‘There He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather. 29Immediately after the tribulation of those days: ‘The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.b’ 30At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven,c and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.d 31And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. AFTER !!!! Wat about THE END IS NEAR??? Luke 21:Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?” 8Jesus answered, “See to it that you are not deceived. For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them. 9When you hear of wars and rebellions, do not be alarmed. These things must happen first, but the end is not imminent.”
The wheat and tares grow together during the Tribulation. The wheat refused the Mark, so they are gathered and sent to Jerusalem for the wedding fiest of the Lamb, and to see Jesus set on the Throne of David as KING of Kings and LORD of Lords. The tares took the Mark. They are tossed into the Lake of Fire forever. We return with Jesus from Heaven to the Earth with our glorified bodies fashioned like Jesus's glorious risen body.
The wheat are not "changed". They go into the Millennium Age with their vile bodies to populate the Earth with children and grandchildren. We rule over them as Kings and Priests.
The pre-tribulation rapture doctrine explanations that I have read, use a technique called parenthetical chapters in the book of Revelation. This allows them to move chapters, and verses in chapters around to accommodate their doctrine. The trouble is the original Greek manuscripts have no chapter headings, nor chapters. So realistically how do you go about moving chapters? Nevertheless, they use this literary device erroneously. For example, this verse in the 12th chapter. Revelation 12:5 KJVS And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. Clearly, this is the rapture of some of the members of the body of Christ. And they move the rapture before the beginning of the tribulation, by moving the chapter. But what they fail to take into account is a verse earlier in that book. Revelation 8:13 KJVS And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound! The three woes are associated with the fifth sixth and seventh trumpet. So where the 3 Woes transpire in the narrative,that requires a linear progression of those chapters. The first woe takes place in the ninth chapter. Revelation 9:12 KJVS One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. The second woe takes place in the 11 Chapter. Revelation 11:14 KJVS The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. And the third woe takes place a short time later in the 12 chapter. Revelation 12:12 KJVS Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. So clearly, the manchild being caught up to the throne of God, Re 12:5, takes place in the middle of the tribulation. At the seventh trumpet. Revelation 11:15 KJVS And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Jesus mentioned Days of Noah which is ESCAPE then Judgment Jesus mentioned Days of Lot which is ESCAPE then Judgment Are you making a case for Judgment then escape? Because that's not an escape... that's a rescue. God didn't rescue Noah or Lot. God gave them SPECIFIC instructions on how to escape judgment...
I would like to add that on a heliocentric model of the Earth is a globe, the gates of heaven given as measurements would be miles above the ground. Jesus, God and the angel are specific with this measurement and measurements. This contributes towards my belief, along with other things in the Bible and the measurements we are given of the globe, that the Earth is a terrarium made for us and his flat, not like a pizza, but more like a terrarium and we live on the flat surface of the terrarium
Since the living.....will never precede the fallen asleep [dead] (1Th 4:15), the Rapture of the living can't possibly occur before "The Last Day" Resurrection (Jn 6:39-40,44,54). Accordingly, Skip's "Pre-Tribulation" Rapture interpretation of Jn 14:3 is fundamentally flawed, and another interpretation is needed, preferably one, consistent with the context and the grammar of the original (Greek) text.
None of the resurrections spoken in the Old Testament, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John resurrection, or ones in Revelation 20:4-6 have anything to do with the clouds and the air. None are changed and caught up. Our resurrection happens IN THE CLOUDS and IN THE AIR and some will be alive and remain. We are changed and caught up. This is different.
The dead will receive their glorified bodies first, THEN those of us who are alive will be transformed in the blink of an eye then are snatched into the air to meet our Lord in the clouds. Allen Nolan has wonderful way of teaching the end times with timeliness and explaining them verse by verse.
@@Pre-Tribulation There is only one "Resurrection of the Justified "(Lk 14:14) and it will occur within "The Last Day" (Jn 6:39-40,44,54), and is elsewhere called "The First Resurrection" (Rev 20:5-6), which distinguishes it from the resurrection of the wicked, after the Millennial reign. Different accounts reveal different information. In order to obtain a full detailed account of an event, one must link the unique parts, and merge the details in a way that does not contradict other accounts. For example, the "Harpadzo"-Rapture" passages (1Th 4:14-17) correlates with the "Harvest of the Wheat" (Mt 13:30), but does not mention immortal bodies, nor occurring at "The Last Trumpet" (1Cor 15:50-52), nor occurring "The Last Day (Jn 6:39-40,44,54, yet it does reveal that the tares are removed first and bundled for burning later, while the harvest accounts in John's vision-(Rev 14:14-18), reveal that the grapes of the earth (Rev 14:17-18) are harvested last, and are cast into the winepress of the wrath of God, which will be trodden by Jesus , outside the city (Rev 14:20) in the Valley of Josephat (Joel 3:9-17). Lastly, the Harvest-Gathering occurs at the end of the age (Mt 13:39), during "The Day of the Lord" (2Th 2:1-2), , the same day as the Rapture (1Th 4:17-5:2, when read in full trailing context), as well as the same day that the wicked and ungodly are slain (Is 13:6-15, Jer 46:10, Joel 1:15, 4:15-16) , as well as the day when the present heavens and earth will be burned-up with intense heat (2Pet 3:10-12), making "The Day of the Lord" the day of His "Coming" and "Our Gathering" (2Th 2:1-2), with a "Great Trumpet" (Mt 24:31), as well as "The end of the Days" (Dan 12:13) and The End of the age (Mt 24:3), elsewher described as, "a day like none other" (Jerr 30:7).
It is true God did not appoint us to his Wrath the whole tribulation is not his Wrath it is the Antichrist the devil and so on. Jesus did himself say that we would not Escape tribulation I believe that the Rapture and the second coming are the same event I can appreciate the understanding of people that believe in a pre-trib rapture I just happened to believe in a post-trib rapture. At the end of the day salvation and eternity with our God and our savior is what's important. Don't misunderstand I believe it is important to understand the whole Bible I just cannot accept a pre-trib rapture that being said I believed in a pre-trib rapture for over 30 years, through much consideration and study I have changed my view and when I did change my view it made a lot of the scripture more meaningful to me and answered a lot of questions. I respect my brothers and sisters viewpoint.
_"It is true God did not appoint us to his Wrath the whole tribulation is not his Wrath it is the Antichrist the devil and so on."_ *=====>* That's a claim coming from you in the form of a negation...where's the support for that in the scripture? _"Jesus did himself say that we would not Escape tribulation I believe that the Rapture and the second coming are the same event"_ *=====>* You're melding together, "tribulation/trials/persecution/troubles/etc" with *THEE* 7 year tribulation, but if you think Christ said we'd be here for the tribulation, again...where's the support for that in the scripture?
@@jannaswanson271 ... Won't need to if we are raptured.... "Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.” Luke 21:28 "Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” Luke 21:36 What things? The signs that are beginning to happen, things are beginning to happen. And we are to count ourselves 'Worthy to Escape' .....Before it comes to Pass. "Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth." Rev 3:10 Those who are left in the time of the 7year 'Tribulation' will have to endure to the end.
@@nia5520 These verses are about the Second Coming. There is a First Coming and a Second Coming- not a One and One half Coming. Revelation 3:10 is about the Philadelphia church. do you know what church you are in? This is what the Bible says, The saints will not take the mark of the beast nor suffer God's wrath. II Thessalonians 2 tells us that we will be here when the anti-christ is revealed. Revelation 13 says that the anti-christ will be allowed to overcome the saints for a time. Revelation 14 tells the saints to persevere and that "“Blessed are the dead-those who die in the Lord from this moment on.” because then in Revelation 20 we hear of those who are beheaded for the sake of Christ in the Tribulation will reign with Christ in the millennial kingdom. Then of course we have Jesus's own words. When His disciples asked Him about the end of days He said this in Matthew 24, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days: ‘The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’ At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other."
@@jannaswanson271 Of course....the Philadelphian Church, that's why Jesus said we will 'ESCAPE!'.... That means NOT gonna be in the 7year Tribulation ... 10."Because you have kept My command to persevere, 'I also will keep you from the hour of trial' which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth!" Rev3:10 Post Trib belief has no dispensation or rightly dividing, so that means the blind folds are on and cannot see the that each prophecetic timeline is for timely events that are unfolding in its context, so obvious.
Skip Heitzig, again and again our Lord Jesus Christ, neither the remaining eleven apostles plus Matthias the one chosen or selected to replace Judas iscariot and the prophets of old never taught rapture (caught up, snatching, taking up, either by force etc.) Skip Heitzig read John 3:13 Hebrews 11:1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40. The whole chapter 11 highlighted were never received yet the promised. Skip Heitzig read the Hebrews 11:16 BUT now they desire a better country, that is, heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath "prepared" for them a city. Skip Heitzig check this word prepared in Revelation 21:1,2,3,4, and read the whole chapter Revelation 21. But Skip Heitzig check the word "Prepared " in Revelation chapter 21:1 And I saw a new Heaven and a new earth: for the first Heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. VERSE 2 AND I JOHN SAW THE HOLY CITY, NEW JERUSALEM COMING DOWN FROM GOD "OUT OF HEAVEN, "PREPARED " AS A BRIDE ADORNED FOR HER HUSBAND. READ THE WHOLE NEXT VERSES. TO SUPPORT THAT THE RAPTURE YOU ARE TEACHINGS AND TO PASTORS, PREACHERS, TEACHERS, PRIESTS, BISHOPS, CARDINALS, POPES, ELDERS, DEACONS, EVANGELICALS, SEMINARIES, SEMINARIANS AND ARE ALL ABSOLUTELY AND COMPLETELY FALSE. READ MATTHEW 24:27,28,29,30,31. SKIP HEITZIG CHECK THE WORD S"GATHER TOGETHER " TO READ WHOLE VERSE MATTHEW 24:31 AND HE SHALL SEND HIS ANGELS WITH A GREAT SOUND OF A TRUMPET, AND THEY SHALL GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT (NOT CHURCH) FROM THE FOUR WINDS, (NOT TWINKLING OF AN EYE) FROM ONE END OF HEAVEN TO THE OTHER. THESE ARE WORDS OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST NOT THE WORDS OF FALSE APOSTLE PAUL AKA SAUL OF TARSUS. ANOTHER PARALLEL VERSES TO SUPPORTS MARK 13:24,25,26,27. ANOTHER PASSAGES TO SUPPORT JOHN 17:15 JOHN 5:25 REVELATION 3:10 JOHN 14:1-6 MATTHEW 10:22( THOSE WHO ENDURE TO THE END WILL BE SAVED, NOT RAPTURED) PARALLEL PASSAGE MATTHEW 24:13 BUT HE THAT SHALL ENDURE UNTO THE END, THE SAME SHALL BE SAVED(NOT RAPTURED) PARALLEL PASSAGE IN MATTHEW 5:5 JESUS CHRIST SAID BLESSED ARE MEEK: FOR THEY SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH. TO ALL FALSE PASTORS, FALSE PREACHERS, FALSE TEACHERS, FALSE PRIESTS, FALSE BISHOPS, FALSE CARDINALS, FALSE POPES, FALSE EVANGELICALS, FALSE SEMINARIANS, FALSE DEACONS, FALSE ELDERS, FALSE SEMINARIES AND ALL FALSE PROPHETS FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELTS...THE ANTI CHRIST, THE BEAST WILL BE THE ONES SNATCHING AND THROWN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE. ALSO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE WILL BE THROWN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE.
The Great News is Here! Will you be saved today? Buy the truth and sell it not; also wisdom, and instructions, and understanding. Proverbs 23:23 KJV BE NOT DECEIVED!!! Hell is going to be full of preachers, and false prophets who has denied giving the people, the undivided truth! And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. John 8:32; 10:9-11; 14:6-12; Luke 24:45-47; Acts 2:38-39; Ephesians 4:4-5; Colossians 3:17 KJV Don’t allow anyone to sugar coat your only soul to the lake of fire to burn forever. Who report do you believe? Read, read, read all about it beloved. Psalms 9:17; Isaiah 5:14-16; 66:23-24; Revelations 21:8 KJV Beloved soul, be very sure before leaving this life, to allow the main thing of the main thing to be the main thing in our lives. There is only, if we carefully think about it, two choices in life “Deuteronomy 30:15” to choose from. THE RIGHT CHOICE! THE WRONG CHOICE! Jesus said in Mark 16:16, He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. What I observe from this quote from Jesus is two choices laid out before us. Believe the gospel of Jesus Christ and be saved, believe not the gospel of Jesus Christ and be damned. A saved be and a damned be, and which be we choose will be the be we be when we depart this life. My heart is grieving for the many souls that have not a clue of what the Lord requires of us to do to be saved indeed. I am stressing to each and everyone of us, to let no man deceive you, “John 5:39-40” you and I have one soul, and we are heading back to eternity to give an account of the deeds done in our body’s, if we don’t get saved the only way that’s recorded on record in the Word of God to be saved “Acts 2:38-39” during the church age, so we can indeed be numbered among them “1st Peter 2:9-10” which are sanctified, then forever our souls will be lost. HERE IS THE MAIN THING OF THE MAIN THING WE MUST POSSESS IN OUR LIVES BEFORE DEPARTING THIS LIFE! Be sure we read and follow the instructions concerning the fine print here. Our very souls is truly affected by it. A life insurance policy for our very souls before the death angel shows up is much needed! Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. The believing Jews obeyed and did it. Acts 2:38-39 KJV The believing Samaritans obeyed and did it. Acts 8:16 KJV The believing Ethiopian obeyed and did it. Acts 8:36 KJV The believing Gentiles were commanded to obey and do it. Acts 10:48 KJV The believing disciples of John were re-baptized after being updated to do it. Acts 19:5 KJV Beloved souls, be not deceived! The book of Acts is the ONLY book in the Bible which explains how to get the savior and be born again, and after the book of Acts, we have 22 books called the epistles, teaching us that, denying ungodliness, and worldly lust, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world; Titus 2:12 KJV The gospel of Jesus Christ is the ONLY thing in our world that can subdue and conquer this monstrosity in our lives called SIN! Beloved ones, save yourselves from this wicked, perverse, untoward God generation and them that will hear you. Trust and obey, for there’s no other way, to be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey. We admonish one and all, to search out a place of worship where the Truth is being taught so we can indeed lay hold on eternal life and be free indeed. I would be willing to guide any hungry, and willing soul in search for the undivided Truth, to a place in your area which will feed your very soul’s with manner from on high. Eld Anthony Sanders God’s hand
The rapture of living saints was a mystery until revealed to the Apostle Paul. If that is true, Jesus was speaking of the resurrection of dead saints in John 14. If you look at I Thessalonians 4, it says that the dead in Christ will rise first. Jesus will bring the souls and spirits from heaven of the saints who died in Christ prior to the rapture. The soul and spirit will be incorporated into the resurrected body, and Jesus will receive that body unto Himself. The only thing the Jews knew was the resurrection of dead saints in the last days. There was no prophecy in the OT regarding the rapture of living saints. BUT it is in type and his name is Enoch who was translated. God just took him. Wow!! He was translated hundreds of years before the flood. No one saw Enoch translated except God. BUT they did see Elijah taken to heaven. Why the difference? Because Enoch is a picture of the Church being changed in a moment, in the twinkling of eye, so there no way a person can see that happen. BUT they will watch Elijah and another witness lie dead in Jerusalem for 3.5 days in the middle of the tribulation and watch them be resurrected on live TV. If you disagree with my interpretation of John 14, that is ok, because the dead and living saints will be gathered by Jesus according to I Thess. 14:13-18. It is going to happen. My argument is the rapture of living saints was not revealed until I Cor 15, so Jesus was only talking about receiving the glorified bodies of dead saints until Himself. God gave Paul multiple mysteries. One more mystery. When the full number of Gentiles are saved, the God turns His focus back on Israel. The mystery is the fullness of the Gentiles being saved before the time of Jacob's trouble. God bless.
The only way to teach that the rapture is in the Bible is to use a Latin translation some 400 years later. They don’t argue for a rapture from the Greek because they know the Greek can have multiple meanings so they appeal to the Latin. That’s ludicrous. Just be honest people and stop trying to shield people from other possibility’s. It’s called control and manipulation.
@@pasqm3 that’s not the argument I’m making. I’m not saying you can’t argue for a rapture, what I’m saying is it’s dumb to argue from the Latin translation. Who the heck reads Latin anyway? It’s irrelevant. Argue from the language the thing was written in.
@@kathleeneslinger6978 with all kindness and respect this is a straw man fallacy. I’m not saying that because something isn’t mentioned in the Bible that it’s not true. I’m saying argue from the original text, not an interpretation of the text.
Natural selection is the character flaw in evil that is integrity is more important than life otherwise evolution is tragic circumstances with nothing intelligent happening. Almost everyone survive until they reproduce. Nothing is getting selected except for the character flaw in evil. I found a replacement for the character flaw in evil that I liked but God makes me forget things that will cause me trouble.;)
I am of the belief that Christians are not only the body of Christ, but also the church. Yet you stated we were also the bride which has always been Israel. I don't see how we can be the bride when all prophecy Points towards Israel being the bride if Christ
The Bride is in the Father’s House while Israel is on the Earth... Revelation 19:8, SHE is adorned in fine white clean linen. Then she is following Jesus during the return, Revelation 19:14-15
Israel is the wife of Jehovah *=====>* "For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called." *Isaiah 54:5* On the o/hand, the CHURCH is the bride of Christ *=====>* "For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." *Eph. **5:22**ff*
The Rapture is only for the Body of Christ Church. If it doesn't happen for YOU? Then you need to repent right now!!!! Believe Jesus died for your sins and rose again and you will be saved!
So, for the earnest seeker of truth, if it's not going to HAPPEN, could you maybe take the time to explain just how e/thing will come to pass? I mean, the video was nearly 45 minutes long, & you most likely didn't view it...that's not a problem, we get it that you're ANTI-pretrib, but really...in place of your CRITICISM, how is e/thing going down in your HUMBLE opinion?
2 Thessalonians 2:8 describes the second coming of Christ along with the first resurrection. After a thousand years go by Jesus returns to Earth with the saints for the second resurrection of the wicked, and Satan is loosed from his prison of circumstances for a short season to once again deceive those who were destroyed by the brightness of Jesus' second coming. Folks we are the salt and light of Jesus and it makes no sense to remove the light in the darkest day's of Earth's history. Jesus promises to sustain those who's faith is in Him in these most evil of days.. just like Elijah and others who put their trust, and faith in God. The reason why the pre-tribulation rapture is so appealing, and therefore excepted is because we are creatures by and by most likely to take the path of least resistance.. and who doesn't want to leave planet Earth as what's described in the Bible as the worst time in our planets history. Z28-310.
"The Rapture of the Church - John 14:1-6" I believe this...Kind preacher and...(Sorry for the VERY long "comment". But I believe it NEEDS to be espoused) Most assume the "Church"; are those that go to churches. Now we know Jesus IS going to come back to "Rapture his sheep" Amen!. And take us to the Old Heaven. Praise Jesus. And The bible says in: 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For Jesus himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump (the last of 7 Trumpets) of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with Jesus. Now...who are the dead and the living, of Christ? Hmm? Most assume they are the people who go to churches? Well it's not. For most people who go to churches; are NOT Born Again, sad. But true and very much now. Now, Jesus made clear in John 3:3 ...Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be (Spiritual) born again*, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Also, most believe that Jesus is going to come back to this earth. Well he's NOT. For, He proved that in 1 Thess 4:16-17. Thus, He would meet us (Born Again only) IN the AIR. Not the earth. And, he will never come back to this old, sinful earth*. Even though most believe; that He is coming back to this earth. Sad. He's not. No need! End of Story and I rest me case... ...In any case Brethren, Please Pray OFTEN and Praise Jesus OFTEN; for He is the ONLY true "God Almighty"; there will ever have been. And may Jesus bless you and yours always. AMEN! * Jesus and the Born Again WILL be taken into the New earth; and New Heaven after "Judgment Day". Where and when Jesus casts all the non born again's ("Goats") into hell. And takes us Born Again's ("Sheep"); to the New earth and the new Heaven. Then He destroys the old earth and old Heaven. Praise Jesus. Revelation 21:4 And Jesus shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Matthew 24:29-31 "Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days... will send his angels to gather the elect..." Those that do not believe these words of Jesus will not go in the rapture. If you do not believe Jesus, you are not a Christian. Enough said.
you wrote it... He will SEND HIS ANGELS, to do it... not the rapture 1Thes4... HE HIMSELF does it... Harpazo(rapture) clearly not the same. seems easy to say, you're not a christian but a churchstain. but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt since you show yourself to be a milk drinker. if you want more than just milk im happy to guide.
The pre-tribulation Rapture is a brazen unbiblical utterly false Doctrine. It is a false prophecy. Matthew 24:29 is the signs and the sun in the Moon. The day of the Lord comes after the signs in the sun in the Moon (Joel prophecy)... verses 30 and 31 in chapter 24 of Matthew are clearly the same event as 1st Thessalonians 4:16 and 17. You can also look at 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 1 through 3 and we see that Christ's return and the Gathering of the select occurs AFTER the revelation of antichrist. 1st Corinthians chapter 15 gives the order of the resurrection and the order is very clear Christ first and then as coming he gathers all of his elect from all ages from Adam to the last person saved before Christ appears. At the LAST trump. The church is not appointed to Raph. The wrath of God commences on the day of the Lord which is when Christ appears in flaming fire with his mighty angels and at that moment the dead in Christ rise and those who are alive and remain or caught up together to meet the Lord in the air as he descends to Earth. I have more scriptures but if these don't persuade you, don't tell me that you believe the Word of God...
The day of the Lord is the 7 year tribulation and even the 1000 year reign of Christ upon the earth. The day of Jesus Christ is the catching away. Matthew 24:29 is NOT the catching away. It is another event and I used to not be able to read correctly myself and thought this was the rapture at the end of the tribulation. I was wrong. In the catching away, Jesus Christ gathers us. In the Matthew 24 event, God sends his ANGELS to gather the elect from one end of HEAVEN to another. It does not say in the air like Thessalonians. I don't believe in a bungee jumping catching away where we will be caught up and then flung back down. That is silly. God is not an idiot. He will keep us from (not through) the hour of temptation that is coming upon the whole earth to test them that dwell upon the earth. God will not protect or save you during the great tribulation. He will keep only the 144,000 protected. The tribulation saints have to die because they have to "wash their own robes in the blood of the lamb" The church of Christ does not wash their own robes. Jesus Christ washes and sanctifies us. The great tribulation is Jacobs trouble. It is not the church's trouble.
During The Rapture, Jesus HIMSELF decends from Heaven with a shout and the Trump of God. The dead in Christ are raised, then we are changed, then caught up to meet Jesus in the clouds and in the air. During the RETURN, we follow Jesus from Heaven to the Earth WITH the armies of Heaven. This isn't a "Jesus himself" event
@@Pre-Tribulation hello pre-trib Warrior how are you my name is Roy. Before we begin to understand what the penalty is for being a false prophet and making false prophecies. You speak with absolute Authority. Let's start with that. Do you understand that there is no mercy from God Port false prophets?
@@Rbl7132 Before you start calling me a false prophet, you need to 1st understand that you may be wrong. I can use verses and you can't. That's the problem
@@Rbl7132 Revelation 1:5-6... GO READ IT!!! The Blood of Jesus makes us Kings and Priests!!! Don't believe me... READ IT FOR YOURSELF... ^^^ Then flip over to Revelation 4:4. How are they dressed? Raminent is used for royalty. ^^^ Then read Revelation 5:9-10. The Elders see all seals opened in Heaven, they are redeemed by the blood of Jesus to get into Heaven, and they will rule on the Earth as Kings and Priests. Then go to Revelation 20:4. We are the ones sitting on thrones and power of JUDGMENT is given to us. We outrank the beheaded saints who get a full resurrection on Earth where the grass grows. They are NOT resurrected in the clouds, see 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 about WHERE the dead in Christ are raised!
Great pastor! I watched at least 3 to 4 sermons in consecutive order--no break. He is one pastor that I did not get bored with.
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Great message, Pastor Skip! If all anyone gets out of this is "Jesus is THE WAY!" Mission accomplished! ❤🙏
Those that exhalt themselves will be abased, and those that humble themselves will be exhalted.
Great!
I am yearning for the rapture.
The thing I have learned about God is that he understands where you're actually at. He gives you time; And the rest is between you and Him. Nobody else's business for certain. It's your journey. I took that journey at 19 years old or less. But I have never been the same since. Oh yes, loads of trouble for sure but his presence was with me. An amazing experience. I thought that people would love me but they thought I was odd. I was so sad about that. But as I read the Bible over the years I read that the same thing happened to Jesus, the most precious person in my life, the name of Jesus Christ is the most beautiful name I ever knew. I am no saint. I have sinned. But the difference is this: God convicts you of your sin and when you confess it, he washes you again. But you never lose your father. No! Problems... yes but he doesn't let you get away with it once you belong to him. No different from a parent disciplining their own child. He is certainly the best Father I have ever ever known. So kind and gentle . A God who gently corrects you. But He can be a bit sore! Boy, get a spanking from God and you will know all about it! But He doesn't give up. I didn't even want to talk to Him for two weeks! But then I missed my father so much and I knelt down and apologized. I missed Him and maybe He missed me too! It kina felt like that - a nobody that God loved and cared about. Imagine somebody as beautiful as that? In any event I learned not to offend my father in Heaven again and now I run away from sin. I flee it! And all was subsequently forgiven and forgotten and I was so happy again.
Read the last book of the Bible. I bet God put it there on purpose. The book of Revelation , easy to find ..Read chapter 3 verse 20. This is the actual verse I believed and I have never been the same since. I did what it said. Nobody is perfect at all. I am most certainly not, but He is , and I still jump for joy for the God who simply loved and responded to me and cared about me. The biggest change to happen to me is that I stopped cursing. Yes, I used to use the name of Jesus as a curse word. But it all stopped by itself. That very day I asked him in. I didn't even know how to believe. Believe in God! What does it mean? But I was on my knees. And all I prayed was this!. That man told me if I believe in you and invite you in. I want you! And he came. I was a bit spooked but nothing strange happened. I was at peace. And he came I think as I slept and forgave all my sins ....and you know what? He loves you too exactly the same my dear precious friends. Invite him in. He never ever left me. Never!!! And the name of Jesus the Lord is the most precious name to me since I was 19 or thereabouts. He said it in the Bible. I will never, no never leave you nor forsake you. And He kept His promise through lots and lots of trouble.
James from Ireland
Thank you Pastor Skip for taking your time to explain the rapture and the second coming of Jesus Christ. Amen 🙏
There is no rapture. Skip is either lying or should know better.
Study your Bible. This man cannot use scripture to prove or explain this false teaching. He's cherry picking scripture, as pretribbers do, to TRY to explain a false teaching.
@@jannaswanson271: He is a typical ear tickling crowd pleaser. If he'd preach the truth, they'd all never come back.
Rather than try to participate in this debate, I choose to use a quote from Game of Thrones, from Arya who has traveled across the sea in search of that one person & being turned away at the door she says in desperation, "I have no where else to go." He immediately responds to her, "You have everywhere else to go." & the door is slammed shut in her face.
Satanic tactics have every way possible to deceive & distort any way possible away from the ONLY ONE TRUTH THAT COMES ONLY FROM GOD. Jesus personal promise from the Gospel of John 5:24-25 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word & believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, & shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming & now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; & those who hear will live." [ "Most assuredly, I say to you . . . " coming directly from the mouth of Jesus, can be translated: your very life depends upon you believing this truth that can only come from God ] So, you decide if you believe every other possible distortion & distraction to lead you astray OR the only truth that there is from God. THAT is the narrow path, people, 1-on-1 single file personal intimate relationship with the Holy Spirit to communicate with Jesus directly to see the face of God the Father. I believe in the blessed hope, that the entire reason God sent His Son was to save the world from His Wrath against sin & evil, there is nothing else that I need to be saved from, Jesus died so that I might live, Jesus rose from the tomb, death has lost it's sting, He walked the earth for 40 days before ascending up into heaven to claim His Prophet, Priest & King throne to rule at the right hand of His Father God Almighty, He went His Holy Spirit to birth His church on Pentecost & has been building His Church through those who believe His promise . . . He will return with His Church behind Him & reign on earth for 1000 years. AMEN, Lord Jesus, come quickly !!
Glory to Jesus
Thank you for the clarity in the truth about rapture and second coming of Jesus
Thank you Skip Heitzig - I feel blessed to have stumbled accross your ministry - God Bless you
I sent this to many people. Skip has a gift of explanation second to few.
This is star trek theology. Most rapture-related teachings are false, dangerously false.
Skip has a gift for telling tall tales.
@@jannaswanson271😂
This man has the gift of taking advantage of Bible illiterate lemmings.
@@jannaswanson271: Skip has the gift of taking advantage of Bible illiterate lemmings.
Re: pastors comment 24:44
Had a dream doing just that many years ago. Was running down a large hall with red carpet checking out all the rooms. It was like a large bed and breakfast with your own backyard. Each place was uniquely made to please a variety of people.
that's true. God places the choice of faith in our power!
Just Found You, Praise Lord Jesus. Subscribed and sharing.Truth!!
Thank you for the wonderful, powerful message. Me and my husband had disagreements about rapture and second coming of Jesus. And I struggled to explain to him because he did not believe in rapture before. Now we can come to read and share what the Bible says. 🙏🏼♥️
5/2/2023: Thank you, Pastor Skip 🙏🏾🙏🏾✝️🎺🎺🎺🎺
Beautiful description, thank you Lord, thank you Skip.
Agreed! Just like Joseph had his gentile bride before the seven year time of trouble, and Israel is then saved. Also, there was a great harvest before that.
Moses also had his gentile bride and God called him back to save Israel.
I thank God for this message of truth. As a believer, I should be looking forward to the rapture, which is the blessed hope, the glorious appearing of our Geat God and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
God bless you man of God
Watching from Zambia.
Just read II AND 2: 1 thru 3 and just be honest with yourself. This man is teaching a lie.
@lindseywalker6925 could you please post the scripture to read again?
@@kazziemaccie 2nd Thessalonians 2: 1 through 3. .....then just be honest with yourself. Midtrib rapture at its earliest.
Everyone really needs to purchase the book: BE FORE GOD'S WRATH by H.L. NIGRO and/or THE HOPE OF CHRISTS SECOND COMING by Samuel P. TREGELLES.
Beautiful message, thank you !! AMEN
Skip is the man!
On Jewish marriage in Israel… I lived with my in -laws for two years. Only by the grace of God did we all get through that period. 😂 I thank the Lord for their generosity.
Good teaching except for the misunderstanding with regards to predestination which is not in reference to being born again but is about those who are born again being predestined to glory.
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 1 THES 5:9-10
1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
I always see this pop up on Pre and Mid
Is the Great Tribulation God's Wrath? The Answer is an Emphatic NO!!!
You would have to be alive on earth after the 2nd coming if you want to experience that...
"But I don't want to go throught the tribulation!"... Don't worry, 33% odds that wormwood will take you out first.
2 Peter
3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
My greatest fear is that many who say they are part of The Elect are going to be fooled by the AC or will lose their faith and won't be leaving if it is Post. What if it is and you and the rest of the congregation is wrong?! There are much worse things to believe, like saying the ten commndments don't apply to you because you are saved by grace. Jesus did NOT say that! Consider this a warning.
Acts
2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
1 Thessalonians
5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
No, we won't know the day or hour, but we will be able to make a very qualified guess, we are children of the light. We prepare for and are not surprised by a thief in the night. Non-believers won't take this well, they are in darkness and will realize their error when they see He is coming.
2 Peter
3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
THIS IS WRATH!!!
Apophis (1100ft asteroid, near ELE) will fly within 20K miles on 13APR29 and if it hits a certain window during its flyby, it will return on Palm Sunday 13APR36. Note the date seems to be an apocalyptic sign! That is the day that Jesus entered Jerusalem on a donkey as King, you know, the mode of travel his great, great...grandfather King David and all(?) the other Israelite Kings used. Think second coming of the King...
I really like Pastor H., but there is no day of the rapture mentioned in the Bible, only the Day of the Lord, and since the 2nd coming is the Day of the Lord and not the 3rd coming, no matter how eloquently he tries to phrase his message and regardless of the passages he refers to, he is wrong. You will NOT escape the tribulation. Your attendance is mandatory. Some will escape, many others will not be so lucky. Revelation says 1/3rd of mankind will be eliminated by wormwood and another 1/3rd by the AC, do you think these are all non-believers & new believers? That idea is obtuse, sorry.
This is your warning. Don't worry, it is coming very soon. This will be the second most important event in the history of the humankind after the birth, life, death, and resurection of Jesus. Many won't reach that day! It is not the time to lose faith, you must be stronger, He will not abandon his Elect, his will SHALL be done.
Go with God
We will be here for man’s wrath, the American church is due for judgment
It's unfortunate how twisted up you are in scriptures. Be ready to go. We are saved by faith alone in Jesus Christ alone. Nothing else. The KJV, NKJV, AMPLIFIED, NLT are good versions of the Bible to read. Ask God to guide you through understanding His word before opening it. You're not there yet, but never give up. Focus on your relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.
I’m relieved to know I’m not alone on when. I’m praying for pre, the suffering feels unbearable, but the bible says “hold tight to you’re crown” for a reason, we have many prophecy’s still to come to pass
Thanks Pastor Skip, what an excellent message.............as a Saint I'm somewhat bias. Prayers and Blessings
Perhaps the Rapture is God calling His Holy Spirit Home. And since the Holy Spirit endwells in those of us who are born again, we go too. Hence The Church Age comes to an end. The Holy Spirit will still be involved in the affairs on earth, but it will be as it was in the Old Testament.
Those of us who truly love Him, born again, watching and waiting, longing to be with Him, are truly blessed. This Age of Grace will come to an end.
You're right. The power of the church is the Holy Spirit. Being God, He can not be withdrawn from any spot on the universe but can resume His former estate.
Agreed
Think of it this way. At a school board meeting, a Christian board member votes "no" to allowing the introduction of graphic sexual content to promote LGBT lifestyles...that member is "restraining evil" because the Holy Spirit is in him/her. At an auto repair shop a Christian mechanic says he will not go along with charging a customer for parts and work that was never done...that Christian mechanic is "restraining evil" because the Holy Spirit is in him. Now look at the passage in Thessalonians that talks about the removal of the restrainer...what is implied is the removal of the Christian who acts in a Godly manner because he /she has been transformed the the presence of the Holy Spirit in them. This is just one more example of how the Bible does teach a pre-trib rapture. The book of Revelation does say that there will be people who accept Jesus Christ and that all of them will pay with their lives...so the Holy Spirit will still be convicting people of sin and unrighteousness...and these people will be those who have never heard the "good news" of Jesus Christ. Anyone who heard the gospel and rejected it will not accept it during the Tribulation.
7th day Adventist lives under OT and NT Covenants
Amen! Amen!
Aleluia!!!!!!
Great job! See you in the clouds
Strange that people DON’T want to go to Heaven!
Hell will be full of narcissistic and power hungry souls who pursued power and sin. They never once repented. It's sad... but Jesus makes His case, and the Devil makes his case. They chose the Devil...
See you in the clouds when the Trump of God is blown... maranatha
Hi friend
If people understood who the Philadelphia church was
For when she appeared on the earth 🌎
Then we would see how they are decieving us one more time with this pretrib rapture
See, scripture gives us hard-core evidence when the Philadelphia church would appear, and she was kept from the hour of trial
Basically, the Philadelphia church came upon the scene while church and state had no power
She was kept from the middle ages of the mid evil church of Rome. The dark days
This was a period of tribulation
She was also kept from the mark of the beast
For even the laodician church is given time from that hour to receive the truth from the Philadelphia church
But the laodician church rejects the Philadelphia church message to prepare for the mark of the beast
So the laodician church is spewed out of Jesus' mouth
Because they prefer the precepts of men who bring paganism into our Christian lives
@@echoofthevoiceinthewildern3008 ALL SEVEN CHURCHES IN REVELATION 2&3 HAVE ANGELS OVER THEM!!!!! ANGELS!!!!!!!!
@Pre-Tribulation
Well, the laodician church must have an evil angel over them
Because they worship the devil at the end of time
Don't you see
We are the church that is filled with material wealth, and when the mark comes about, we are not going to give up our riches for nobody
Jesus said it would be like this, and it will happen for the majority
See the Philadelphia
Church brought back the 4th commandment of God to all churches
But the laodician church hates the biblical sabbath
And they want Sunday, which will bring them wealth upon the earth
@Pre-Tribulation
Jesus has his 7th day sabbath in Rev chapter 3 verse 14
The creation of God
In the book of Genesis
It shares with us what Jesus created at creation
The 7th day, he created a day of rest for his creation
In verse 18
Jesus counsel us to buy gold from him, for it is tried in a fire 🔥
Many prefer the iron that turns to rust that men have to offer them
Skip has done a wonderful way to explain this. All Long where we end up is up to us. Only through Jesus, following His ways, will lead us home. How this is explained can be understood by all those who love our Lord as everything comes from the Father directly to His Son. In the meantime, Jesus left the Holy Spirit, what more could we ask? 🙏 Pray, and be filled with love and TRUST in the Lord God Almighty and His Son the Lord Jesus Christ.
I thought so also for over 20 years been there done that😅😢
We are saved by our faith alone in Jesus Christ alone.
John 15:18-20 (KJV) If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep your's also.
All that is speaking about the ISRAELITES.... NO BODY HATES THE CHURCH.... THE BIBLE IS FOR THE ISRAELITES ONLY...
Hey d,ont want suffer at all. Tribulations always for alls son of God.
Thanks brother Skip. I have a question concerning Jn 14:1-6 Are these verses talking about a pre-trib rapture? It appears to me these verses are clearly talking about AFTER the resurrection. When I hear pre-tribers teach. They see a pre-trib rapture in every verse. A good example of this is. We are not appointed to wrath. 1Thes5:9 How in the world do people see a pre-trib rapture in this verse? We are not appointed to wrath is 100% true. However, if people would study Gods word. They would understand the wrath of God comes on the LAST DAY. Rev6:17DAY Rm2:5 DAY. Zeph1:15 DAY. Jesus confirms this in Jn6:39-40,44,54. (Believers) and Jn12:48 (Unbelievers) Both on the LAST DAY. The wrath of God is NOT the tribulation period. There is only ONE way to keep from being deceived. Study the word of God and ask the Holy Spirit for help. Yours in Christ
@@Job-qp9hk I agree with what he said; however I could not find any teaching on his belief on the millennium.
Correction in chapter 1:11, chapter 1:20 it was our Lord Jesus Christ speaking not John...I absolutely admit it was mistake on my part.
It's actually a time that the father chooses for the son to go get the bride. (It's partly why it states only the father knows the time and date.) Also the twinkling of an eye
Is in reference to the new moon. No one knows the time or hr only the heavenly father does, which is on the feast of trumpets. Very important Hebrew and christians become one. It explains the whole wedding and things that are common to Hebrew knowledge and ancient Hebrew
It explains it so
Beautifully it'll take your heart and open it like you've never imagined. It is so by far the Greatest love story
You won't be able to turn to the right or left
The LOVE is beyond phenomenal
But important to know the Hebrew background
To put it all together to feel His heart ❤️
Truthteller.
Ear tickling crowd pleaser for Bible illiterate lemmings.
Dn 9:20-27 speaks of the 70 weeks prophecy of the Jews , this was stopped at the 69 th week, with the killing of Jesus and the resurrection starts the church age, this grace ends with the rapture of the saints/ the gentile church . See 1 Thessalonians 2:8
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JESUS IS LORD AND GOD OF ALL
If there's a two part coming, during your pretrib rapture rescue, do the lost stay in the ground?
No, because the dead in Christ rise first. Followed immediately by living Christians. And, I agree with you there is only one coming. In a prophetic vision I experienced this and saw Jesus and his angels coming in the clouds extending from horizon to horizon. Every eye had to see. And they were singing a new song about New Jerusalem the city of God descending from the sky aka heaven to the Earth. Jesus extends his right hand and a blue light lifts believers up to join him. After this many people who are still on Earth attempt to come against him. He opens his mouth and fire comes out and consumes them in an instant as though they never existed to begin with.
Read it for yourself. You need to study.
I’m a pretribulationist, and believe in the Rapture. I believe that we will be gone before the tribulation begins. Thessalonians, 5:9 God did not appoint us to wrath, the wrath of Gods judgement. And if you read Revelation 3:10, it says: Because thou hast kept the word of my patients, I will keep the, from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them, who dwell on the earth.
Christians will be there during the tribulation and they will be forced to make a decision on whether to accept the mark or not. It seems quite clear to me that Tribulation is something we will all have to go through and many of us may be killed for keeping our faith and not denying Christ. This is what it means by the hour of temptation. We are all going to be tempted to go along with receiving the mark. The rapture is unorthodox theology, we are not getting beaming up out of there like Scottie. Of course, I could be wrong and you may be right but I am 100 percent certain that I'm not.
REV 6...The seals begin a time of tribulation. Seal 5 shows those under the altar who perished during events of seals 1 thru 4. Seal 6 is a great cosmic event and earthquake that results in worldwide devastation or great tribulation. CH 7 CONFIRMS THIS when another group of ppl from all nations are in front of throne. These are worldwide believers in Christ who did not survive effects of Seal 6. Rev 6:16 says it is the wrath of the Lamb, as He is the one opening the seals. Notice all the events happening thru Rev 13 when the antichrist comes into full power and people cannot buy or sell without the mark, and must worship the image of the beast. Bible is clear that believers are still here as the beast wars against God's people.. Many will be jailed or killed as stated in Rev 13. Then, we see in Rev 14:14-16 , Christ comes on the clouds and reaps the harvest, THAT is the time of a rapture of any faithful believers who did not take the mark or worship the beast image. Immediately after that an angel begins gathering evil men into the wine press of God's wrath. This BEGINS God's wrath. Rev 16 clearly points out the bowls are God's wrath being finished.
So yes the faithful believers, who were survived and endured from Rev 6 thru 14, will be taken out before the Father's wrath is poured out!!!!
@@nessa4165 You are correct. It is Biblical what you say. Unfortunately, the pretribulation teachers are false teachers. The Bible calls them wolfs in sheep clothing, leading carnal Christians away from the Biblical truth. They take part of the Bible and twist it to give gullible carnal Christians false teachings. Sad for them. Praying for them. They will be shocked when the antichrist will show soon and they will have to face the choice of following Christ no matter the cost or give in to the antichrists.
@@nessa4165 I believe the Rapture will happen before the 1st seal. Jesus mentioned Days of Noah and Days of Lot about End Times and both had an ESCAPE method and then judgment. We escape judgment.
1 Thess 1:10 and Romans 5:9 also.
Joshua 5:13, Jeremiah 9:23, and Daniel 2…. Any narrative that we tell must cohere.
JEREMIAH 23:1 -25
Pre, Mid, or post perhaps it’s all three, there’s been more than one.
Can you explain Revelation 19?
It looks like the bride is still here at Rev 19.
What do you see as the "CHURCH: in the chpt...I see us in the chpt, but in HEAVEN, & ready to rtn to earth with Christ.
@@Kman. rev 19 refers to the bride still being here. I'm confused.
@@rondagallawa2799 I'm asking, WHERE in the chpt...what verse speaks of us here? The 24 elders represent the CHURCH, & they're in heaven. You simply restated what you initially said, that the chpt still has the bride here & I'm asking what is it you're reading that states that?
@@rondagallawa2799 *Rev 19:7* says, "Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife (THE CHURCH) hath made herself ready." (by means of the Bema).
*Verse 8* pictures our "readiness *=====>* And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints."
In a traditional Jewish wedding, that ceremony would take place in the home of the bridegroom or his parent's home, & you'll recall in *John 14* Jesus said He will receive us unto himself, that where He is, there will we be also. He didn't say, "Where you are, there will I be also."
When Christ descends from heaven, He will lead the way, *=====>* "And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean." We're seen here once again, "clothed in fine linen, white and clean."
The wedding festivities & marriage supper to take place AFTER the wedding, will be held here on earth with the tribulation saints & OT saints the special guests.
I apologize. I'm not trying to be difficult. These scriptures have scared me for a couple of years and I haven't gotten any answers.
Only one coming of Jesus not two. Rapture of church is at the end of this evil age. Never does mention two comings, I used to believe in pretrib until I read and studied scripture. studied
Study up some more...maybe it will all come back to you~~~:)
*_MARANATHA!_*
Jesus doesn't make a grand appearance for all during the Rapture. We are the only ones taken. It's not recorded every eye sees.
Missed the sermon? Normal arguments consist of points which support your point of view. So example: I grew up amillennial and am now pre-trib [my point of view]. I became pre-trib because 1. the Tribulation is 7 years or, the 70th week of Daniel. Where was the Church in the first 69 weeks? The 70th week is an uniquely Jewish event. 2. God poured out His wrath at the flood, on Sodom and in the Tribulation. 1 Thes 5:9 says God will keep us from wrath, so which is it?
There's many more reasons, but this is an example of a rational way to bring up a point of contention.
Your, "this is what God does because I say it" does not carry weight. I have asked first the people in my first church (Professors at Westminster Seminary) and every post toastie and mid tribber and have never gotten a good answer other than, this is what we believe. Good luck with that!
For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence. Romans 14:20
Isaiah 30:11
Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.
Acts 22:18
And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me.
Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Revelation 11:10
And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
The tribulation is something we will all have to go through. Mainstream Christianity has sadly misunderstood scripture on this and many Christians will end up being dismayed. Jesus tells us quite clearly that those of us who endure until the end shall be saved. Not the beginning or the middle.
"But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved." Matthew 24:13
100%
Mainstream Western Christianity. For many believers in China or Middle East, every day is tribulation. To announce that there are just 3.5 years left to tribulation is actually good news to them.
@@goldenspoon87 Really? How long have N Koreans had to wait?
You couldn't be more wrong.
He's talking to the Jews. Olivet discourse is not about the church.
📜✝️✝️✝️120 years Noah preached......the Gospel of Jesus has been preach for over 2 millimium......the return of Jesus is at the door....even as i type/speak...📜✝️✝️✝️..... Shalom Maranatha ✝️✝️📜 Yahweh/Yeshua saved Noah through the flood.... Yeshua/Jesus will save us from the great tribulation when he returns and takes the Church from the evil that is to take place upon planet earth ....are you ready?...where will you spend Eternity....📜✝️ Heaven or 🔥......read john 3:16 kjv✝️
AMEN
I did not come BUT for the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL.
Yes, Jesus presented himself to Israel first. When Israel rejected her Messiah, then God sent Paul into the Gentiles to preach the Gospel of Grace
"He came unto His own, and His own received Him not", but _glory to God,_ they'll one day cry out, "Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord like *Ps 118:26* says which is ALSO noted in *Matt **23:39* in the Olivet discourse which all takes place @ the *END* of the tribulation!
ISRAELITES ARE CRYING OUT NOW !.... APTTMH 💯
And are you physical Israel or spiritual Israel?
How many people have gone to heaven also how many are in hell if we go to heaven when we die then why the rapture also the unbelievers will be cast into hell after the last judgement
The Bible is a prophetic book. Approximately thirty percent of the Bible was prophetic when the writer wrote it. These prophecies address events that have already happened and things still to come. In Matthew 24, the disciples asked Jesus a question about the signs of his coming and of the end of the age. We have been studying his response for the last two thousand years. It seems every generation points to or considers their generation to be the one where Jesus will return. While it hasn’t happened yet, eventually one of those generations will be right.
Because prophecy is such an expansive topic, it is impossible to give you a full-fledged analysis of all Bible prophecy in one article. I can, however, give you a few things that will aid you in understanding end times Scriptures and prophecies in the Bible.
The recently discovered Dead Sea Scrolls show the early church fathers were pre trib.
Then they did not know their Scriptures. When Jesus's own disciples asked Him He said nothing of a "rapture". Instead He said this, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days:
‘The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’
At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other."
@@jannaswanson271 Jesus mentioned Days of Noah which is ESCAPE then Judgment
Jesus mentioned Days of Lot which is ESCAPE then Judgment
Are you making a case for Judgment then escape? Because that's not an escape... that's a rescue. God didn't rescue Noah or Lot. God gave them SPECIFIC instructions on how to escape judgment...
@@Pre-Tribulation The Judgement happens after the Millennium. Revelation 20.
@@jannaswanson271 Jesus did not teach of a pretrib rapture, because He was talking to and sent to Israel. Only Paul speaks of a pretrib rapture, and it is for the Body of Christ Church, not for Israel.
@@bugsocsollie1694 There is only one Spirit, one root. Paul does not speak of the pre-trib rapture because every verse that is used, someone has to say, "this is about the pre-trib rapture" because the text does not say it. It is a myth of men.
No rapture.
Why?
Christ's Words.
Matthew 24 : 29 - 31.
Lemme get this straight...you make a truth claim, & THEN you merely cite a text with 3 verses, and THAT makes the case? *LOL*
@@Kman. yes, i do, the most important Words of our lives ( Christ's Words, the only Words that can and are our faith, Romans 10 : 17, Matthew 4 : 4.)
It is all about the finale event ,
Christ call and teachers us "gather together "
Man say " rapture " ...the way the birds did with the seed that fell by the road.
Matthew 25 : 1 - 13.
@@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337 Well when you skip & skate thru the chapter, _ALLLL_ the way down to a few verses and just overlook or discard the *CONTEXT* of the chapter, sure...you can make it say w/ever your little heart desires.
The "GATHERING" you allude to from *Matt 24* takes place on earth, so it's not even an event that takes place in the air like the rapture. *2ndly,* it is ANGELS who "GATHER" people up, & the Lord _SURE_ won't need the help of angels being dispatched to "GATHER" us up...we simply rise to meet Him.
In *Matt 25,* here again...all that unfolds is here on the EARTH, not like the rapture event in the air.
@@Kman. read Matthew 24 form verse 1, same(believers in Christ) of Christ's disciples asked 3 questions privately ,( believers asked Christ about His coming, end of this era)
Content is a action performed in steps:
Firstly get all the information together.
Not in one place is writen down what will it be like.
Like only 2 resurrections: 1 Corinthians 15 : 23.
Like only 2 comings of Christ .Hebrew 9 : 28.
You and i did not wrote the Words, but we want to obey, understand,known God's Will.
If we do not look ( especially at Christ's Words for me more ) all the scriptures, the picture we came to will be wrong .
The most important is Christ. If you hold on to Christ's Words, who can make you leave those Words? May God keep us in full obedience to Christ. Luke 9 : 35.
@@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337 It appears as if some of my reply does not show up, so I will post the few thoughts below & label them *CONTINUED.* Now, to your most recent comment...
The *CONTEXT* can be found in the preceding chapter where we read, "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem..." Christ didn't say, "O church, church..." Keep in mind, the CHURCH had not been established @ this point, and we continue to read thru the entire Olivet Discourse, we'll find nearly *E V E R Y* verse has s/thing to say about the Jews, NOT the church.
The *CONTEXT* concerns the coming KINGDOM & what will take place leading up to it, it's NOT about the coming CHURCH, and because we know the context is about the coming kingdom here on earth, Christ viewed the disciples who He spoke with after leaving the TEMPLE, as pillars in the coming KINGDOM...
*=====>* _"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."_ **Matt **19:28*
We know Christ has _L O N G E D_ to gather the Jews time & time again, but was met with rejection each & every time...
*=====>* _"...how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!"_ *Matt **23:27*
It's right there in the scripture, & to read the CHURCH into the passage, we would be FORCING the church into the text in an effort to support a narrative is what I'm thinking. The "GATHERING" then that we read of in the last portion of the dialogue will be when they (the Jews) finally come to faith in their Messiah & cry out, "Blessed in he that cometh in the name of the Lord", *Matt **23:39*
_"And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."_ *Matt **24:31* will be prophesy getting fulfilled as found in *Isaiah...*
_"“And it shall come to pass _*_IN THAT DAY,_*_ that the _GREAT TRUMPET_ shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the Lord in the holy mount at Jerusalem.”_ *Isaiah 27:13*
_"“Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the _*_EAST_*_ and gather thee from the _*_WEST;_*_ I will say to the _*_NORTH_*_ give up; and to the _*_SOUTH,_*_ Keep not back: bring my sons from _*_FAR,_*_ and my daughters from the _*_ENDS OF THE EARTH”_* *Isaiah 43:5,6*
All the best to you in your search for truth, *MARANATHA!*
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The "GATHERING" you allude to from *Matt 24* takes place on earth, so it's not even an event that takes place in the air like the rapture. *2ndly,* it is ANGELS who "GATHER" people up, & the Lord _SURE_ won't need the help of angels being dispatched to "GATHER" us up...we simply rise to meet Him.
In *Matt 25,* here again...all that unfolds is here on the EARTH, not like the rapture event in the air.
I would like to say I differ with Skip regarding no literal mansions in Heaven. Too many people have died & seen the city. Hear Dale Black, pilot, testimony on RUclips, on how he saw the city as big as any major city in the world. Either way, a room or a mansion, or even garden, all our questions about it, & everything else, will be answered in a split second after we take our last breath on earth, & first in eternity & as long as we are welcomed there it really won’t matter. The bliss & peace & beauty will surpass any & all our wildest dreams & expectations. The way things are going on earth, shouldn’t be long now….🙏🏻✝️👑🏆
Those "mansions" were built by Jesus himself. Bill gates most glorious mansion will be like a shack filled with mold and sewer...
WOW...I've not listened yet & didn't know that. "Interesting".
Dale Black didn't Heaven and come back to tell us about it.
Read your Bible!
The sun is dire. It makes some people feel dread. They are the fallen ones.8-)
Thank you. Very good.
I still can't see how John 14 is talking about only the rapture.
The disciples were not raptured, they died awful deaths: Jesus probably took them on their deaths.
Certainly there are similarities with 1st Thessalonians 4:16-17
Even the pastor said ... when I die and go to the place prepared for me.
I am a Pre Tribber but not because of John 14:1-4
John 14:1-4 is talking about Jesus coming to receive us to himself and take us to a place He prepared in the Father’s House. When we get a harpazo, we see the Bride in the Father’s House in Heaven, Revelation 22:17. And during the return, Revelation 13:8-15
When Jesus's disciples asked Him about the end of days in Matthew 24 He said,
"Immediately after the tribulation of those days:
‘The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’
At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other."
There are no clear Pre-Trib verses. The verses used to "support" pre-trib are just verses where someone has to tell you what they mean because they don't actually say there is a rapture.
@@jannaswanson271 here is what you need to do... go to your GARBAGE CAN, fish out your Bible, and glue Matthew back into God's Word.
I find it intriguing that everyone who claims Christianity assumes they are the church going in the rapture. There will be quite a lot of people disappointed when they are still here. The Bible says “pray you are accounted worthy to escape all these things coming on the earth”. Jesus even said narrow is the gate, and FEW there be that find it. That tells me, that people best take stock in themselves and study the Word, and ask the Lord God if they are going. Few literally means a puny amount. Baptist’s think they are, Protestant’s think they are etc etc. somebody is wrong.
The only way to make the Rapture is to simply believe Jesus died for your sins and rose again.
People who would pass from this life into the presence of Jesus by way of DEATH & not the rapture, only NOW think it would be a "disappointment", because our finite minds might want to be part of that great & glorious day, the RAPTURE & the "thrill" of it all.
But hey, once we see Christ face/face, any "DISAPPOINTMENT" will vanish, for our immortal bodies will be void of any such emotion. Now, in response to you bringing this up, *=====>* _"pray you are accounted worthy to escape all these things"_
Those words are extracted from a passage that has ZERO to do with the church. Our "WORTHINESS" is wrapped up having placed our trust in the finished work of Christ on Calvary. All the best to you in your search for truth, *MARANATHA!*
@@Kman. Sadly you know nothing, nothing of the Word of God. What you know is taught by the precepts of men, and not of the Lord God. Mark 4:12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. This verse describes your condition.
Tell me, what were the keys that Jesus gave to Peter?
@@deewilson888 Jesus gave Peter the keys to the Kingdom... But the Jews rejected the Kingdom with the Stoning of Stephen in Acts Chapter 7. We are the Age of Grace.
@@Pre-Tribulation That statement literally has nothing to do with the keys given to Peter.
Respectfully, I don't see the connection between these verses and the rapture of the modern church. Proper rendering of a place is an abode not a mansion. Regarding the "rapture"....why put on the whole armor of God in order to stand in the evil day if your are not even going to be here? Is the church going to be here when the Kingdom of God comes to this very earth in full expression which is a certainly? Why did not God rapture the very early VIRGIN church that was poor in money and goods of this earth but literally turned the whole known world upside down and were subsequently hounded, tortured, imprisoned, boiled in oil (John), burned at the stake, skinned alive, fed to wild animals, and forced to flee and live in seclusion in damp dark caves and catacombs....Fox's Book of Martyrs? Why did not God rapture Middle East Christians who were recently raped, beheaded, burned in cages, and forced to watch as their children were murdered? Questions but never any answers from rapture believers....who have swallowed this myth hook line and sinker and cannot be convinced otherwise. This is a false teaching which is not Biblical on its face and is not in harmony with the record of God's dealings with mankind for untold thousands of years. Never ending dreams, visions, god told me, god showed me, warnings, horrifying and terrifying discoveries, playing with numbers and symbols trying to make them mean what they do not mean, signs on top of signs with everything the least bit out of the ordinary becoming a rapture sign like Chinese balloons, and seeing rapture in just about every book of the Bible. And what exactly has happened after months and years of this....nothing....but then they just move the goal line down the field and keep on spewing their religious propaganda thus compounding their error!! This belief stems from carnal minds of human understanding pouring over the dead letter that kills spiritually and seeing things that are not really there and reading between the lines which is private interpretation and taboo! The modern church has been saturated and brainwashed by this and other beliefs from the same source and thus, is stumbling in the dark of error and confusion with little light, little power, little authority, and very little influence so they cannot even turn the block upside down. GOD IS GOOD AND HIS MERCY ENDURETH FOREVER AND EVER!
Praying for you Joe.
@@jellysleeks9428 You think you need to pray for me because you disagree with my belief....at least you did not call me a name or worse. The fact is....that all you have is speculation and conjecture and no Biblical authority.....something that has be predicted for decades and decades and has not happened yet...and I might add, will not happen. Take care and stay safe.
Go learn ancient Biblical Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. Then, look at the oldest transcripts we have. Case closed.
Where does the doctrine of pre-tribulation rapture come from? I'm not at all sure you know.. it comes from the council of Nicaea May of 325 AD.
Being a self proclaimed Protestant you should know that, that is a doctrine of the Catholic Church.
Folk's the early Church searched the scriptures daily to make sure what was being taught them lined up with God's Word. Why are we not doing the same??? Z28-320.
Jesus Christ.
If you read the teachings of Jesus and also the teachings of the apostles and Daniel, you will see that Jesus is coming back with power and great glory, as lightening shines from the east to the west. Every eye shall see him those also who pierced him. At that time those who have died in Christ will be resurrected. There is no secret "rapture". There is ONE second coming of Christ and ONE resurrection of the dead. Be not deceived! Your teachers have corrupted scripture in favor of vain philosophies of men.
The Rapture isn't a glorious every eye will see event. It's a flash, and we are gone. The Rapture is an escape from the 7 headed, 10 horn Beast system which is fully demonic.
The ones left behind after we are zapped away in the twinkling of an eye, are faced with the Devils Mark for Salvation. The angels, at The Return, where every eye Will SEE, in Matthew 24:31 will scoop up and separate Mark and No Mark takers. The Mark takers are gathered first and burned. The wheat refused the Mark. They are taken to Jerusalem for the wedding fiest of the Lamb. We return with Jesus. We have our glorified bodies.
@@Pre-Tribulation zapped away at the "rapture" and scooped up after the tribulation? Another confused result of false teaching and deception
One resurrection? Then why were we told to hope that we take part in the FIRST resurrection? You're unbiblical in your stance. Look up the pre-trib rapture in the old testament.
If the John 14 passage is indeed the Rapture of the Church, the Body of Christ; then we've just made Paul a liar!
1 Cor 2:7 describes a mystery as something never before revealed but hidden in the mind of God.
Also at 1 Cor 15:51 Paul describes the Rapture as a mystery.
Therefore from PAUL is the first mention of the Rapture of the Church.
The John 14 is certainly describing a catching out of certain folks, but if we apply it to the Rapture of the Church we have shut off any further study of the precise event to which Jesus was describing at John 14.
All of the so-called “rapture passages” should be properly applied to the glorious Second Coming of Christ. ✔️
Wow skip stole Emo Phillips joke 🤣
This is what bible says about Rapture** "1 Corinthians 15-31 KJV " Behold I show you a mystery, we shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed in aoment, in the twinkle of an eye, At the Last Trumpet. "
The Last Trump spoken by Paul is the Last Trump from the Fiest of Trumpets. Twinkling of an Eye is am idiom of the Fiest of Trumpets. It's where the trumpeter takes a huge breath and blow as long and loud as they can on one breath. Paul was simply explaining what the SOUND of the Trump of God will sound like.
This man is DELUSIONAL!
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were mainly focused on the Jews... the Body of Christ Church didn't exist until after the Crusifiction.
Dude...forgive me, but in reading thru the comments, I THOUGHT I was done reading your derogatory comments. Pfft...at LEAST you could have compiled them into one comment, 'eh? And get this, *N O N E* of your claims to truth included any SCRIPTURE which leads me to ask you this, "Troll much?" *smh*
@Kman ESAU , GO LEARN YOUR FATE... JUDGEMENT IS COMING...
Jeremiah 23:1 - 25
@@Kman. oh no Kman... someone cursed you
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Jesus taught the gathering happens AFTER the tribulation and all the prophets taught the same thing.
Jesus Himself told us that there would not be a pretribulation rapture. Read ALL of the parable of the wheat and the tares and His explanation to His apostles. It can't be clear. Please, if you're going to comment, be nice. I don't mind debating the subject, but treat me like a Christian should
In short, the parable has ZERO to do with the church. Please...go ahead & make your case how it's the CHURCH in the parable.
Neil, where did Jesus say, "There will be no Pre-Tribulation Rapture"? Chapter and verse. I have popcorn for this one...
@@Kman. I know you are a man who reads God's Word a lot... Do you recall Jesus saying anything about "there will be no Pre-Tribulation Rapture"?
@@Pre-Tribulation I love the debate, & seriously...I would hope the gentleman is honestly putting together a case that shows the CHURCH in the parable of the wheat & tares, and I agree...I've read thru a lot of what Jesus said, but I've never read where He stated, "No pre-tribulation rapture".
@@Pre-Tribulation get your popcorn ready... FYI, when you're dealing with the Word of God, leave the sarcasm at home...
The key to when the rapture takes place is this verse.
Revelation 10:7 ESV
but that in the days of the trumpet call to be sounded by the seventh angel, the mystery of God would be fulfilled, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.
A couple of points regarding this scripture. First, God has to make known to a believer the details concerning the mystery of God.
Colossians 1:27 KJVS
[27] To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
This mystery and glory is realized at the seventh, last trumpet.
1 Corinthians 15:51-55 KJVS
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, [52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. [53] For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. [54] So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. [55] O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
Second point, Re 10:7 states, in the days the trumpet call to be sounded by the seventh angel. The word days is non specific to any given day. In the 12 chapter of the book of Revelation, you have the manchild being caught up to the throne of God, Re 12:5, and the remnant of the woman seed in verse 17. Who have to be murdered by refusing the mark of the beast, Re 20:4.
Revelation 12:17 KJVS
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Jesus mentioned Days of Noah and it had an ESCAPE method and then judgment
Jesus mentioned Days of Lot which is ESCAPE then Judgment
Are you making the case for Judgment then escape? That's not an escape if you go THROUGH IT! Would you abandon your wife and children to human traffickers??? Judgment then escape is ridiculous.
@@Pre-Tribulation He only mentions those days as of the attitude of people, the level of lawlessness that the entire world will be under, the lack of faith in God. Jesus said, When I return will I find faith.
@@bybeta9885 doooooooooont make me roll my eyes... ok?
@@Pre-Tribulation
Judgment started at the house of God close to 2,000 years ago.
1 Peter 4:17-19 KJVS
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? [18] And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? [19] Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
@@lukewagner8871 That verse is saying that we should police our own... but hey. Not everyone has great reading comprehensive skills. Maybe you should deal with books with colors and illustrations
Really simple- IT has already happened in 70ad. Because Jesus told his disciples that they would no more preach to the cities of Israel, That they would see him Jesus coming with his father's angels and his father's kingdom. The fact is if Jesus didn't come back to take to heaven his own .
The Bible is a kids book! If you don't understand it, maybe you are not a child of the kind. IF THE APOSTLES ARE NOT SETTING IN HEAVEN NEXT TO JESUS ON 12 THRONES IN REAL TIME, THEN WE TODAY CAN LIVE BY WHAT WE THINK IS RIGHT IN OUR OWN EYES.
SPEW THE DEVILS BREW OUT YOUR MOUTH AND JOIN THE JESUS ARMY THAT IS GOING TO TAKE BACK THE EARTH FROM THE DEVIL AND PRESENT IT BACK TO GOD WHICH IS THE TRUE CHURCH REASONABLE SERVICE. JESUS ISN'T ENLISTING COWARDS. WARRIORS; THAT IS HE IS AFTER.
JESUS RUNS TO FIGHTS AND IF YOU ARE TRULY HIS , YOU WILL TOO.
WRONG. OFF. Read the Bible. It will happen at the END of this world.
Pretrib is a fib
The dead in Christ must be resurected first then those of us who are alive and remain are caught up to meet them....the dead in Christ are not resurrected until Revelations 20.....read your Bibles not your Chuck tracks circular theology....,pretrib is a fib....prepare yo endure tribulation, persecution, and suffering just as the rest of the saints throughout history....,stop thinking you are better than all the christians before you who patiently endured tribulation, persecution, suffering....pickup your cross and stop watching left behind movies and formulating your theology from sci fi cinema....
so according to you, the dead is waiting in their graves but when they where alive some had for example clinical death experiance, they met the Lord , saw Paradise but now they should wait in their graves ??
this is exactly what those pre trib doctrine preachers believe that the death is waiting in graves till they will fly . they have watched too much that movies without annalising.
Jesus mentioned Days of Noah and that event was escape then judgment...
Jesus mentioned Days of Lot, which ALSO was escape then judgment...
Are you making a case for Judgment then escape? Because judgment then escape isn't an escape, that's a rescue.
@@Pre-Tribulation Once again, the Judgement is in Revelation 20- after the Millennial Kingdom.
@@jannaswanson271 Jesus mentioned Days of Noah which is ESCAPE then Judgment
Jesus mentioned Days of Lot which is ESCAPE then Judgment
Are you making a case for Judgment then escape? Because that's not an escape... that's a rescue. God didn't rescue Noah or Lot. God gave them SPECIFIC instructions on how to escape judgment...
@@jannaswanson271 read Revelation 19 about WHO returns from Heaven to the Earth. It's the Bride of Christ. Or the Body of Christ Church.
REVELATION 13:10. 1611 KING JAMES BIBLE WITH THE APOCRYPHA.
No rupture different from second coming of Jesus Christ. Matthew chapter 13 teaches the second coming and harvest once for all time. It will happen in the start of seventh millennium. Words 13:39 is that harvest is synonym for second coming. If the harvest started it will not stop for an interval of seven years, but harvest is continuous till everything in the field harvested. That is the summer harvest. So put faith in NO MAN but read and study New testament with holy spirit. Everything will discerned with holy spirit.
Matthew 13: JEZUS own WORDSThen Jesus dismissed the crowds and went into the house. His disciples came to Him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”
37He replied, “The One who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38The field is the world, and the good seed represents the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.
40As the weeds are collected and burned in the fire, so will it be at the end of the age. 41The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will weed out of His kingdom every cause of sin and all who practice lawlessness. 42And they will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father.f
He who has ears, let him hear. THE HARVEST IS THE END OF THE AGE NOT BEFORE THE TRIBULATION MATTHEW 24;So if they tell you, ‘There He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days:
‘The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.b’
30At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven,c and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.d 31And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. AFTER !!!! Wat about THE END IS NEAR??? Luke 21:Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?”
8Jesus answered, “See to it that you are not deceived. For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them. 9When you hear of wars and rebellions, do not be alarmed. These things must happen first, but the end is not imminent.”
The wheat and tares grow together during the Tribulation. The wheat refused the Mark, so they are gathered and sent to Jerusalem for the wedding fiest of the Lamb, and to see Jesus set on the Throne of David as KING of Kings and LORD of Lords. The tares took the Mark. They are tossed into the Lake of Fire forever. We return with Jesus from Heaven to the Earth with our glorified bodies fashioned like Jesus's glorious risen body.
The wheat are not "changed". They go into the Millennium Age with their vile bodies to populate the Earth with children and grandchildren. We rule over them as Kings and Priests.
The pre-tribulation rapture doctrine explanations that I have read, use a technique called parenthetical chapters in the book of Revelation. This allows them to move chapters, and verses in chapters around to accommodate their doctrine. The trouble is the original Greek manuscripts have no chapter headings, nor chapters. So realistically how do you go about moving chapters? Nevertheless, they use this literary device erroneously. For example, this verse in the 12th chapter.
Revelation 12:5 KJVS
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Clearly, this is the rapture of some of the members of the body of Christ. And they move the rapture before the beginning of the tribulation, by moving the chapter. But what they fail to take into account is a verse earlier in that book.
Revelation 8:13 KJVS
And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!
The three woes are associated with the fifth sixth and seventh trumpet. So where the 3 Woes transpire in the narrative,that requires a linear progression of those chapters. The first woe takes place in the ninth chapter.
Revelation 9:12 KJVS
One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
The second woe takes place in the 11 Chapter.
Revelation 11:14 KJVS
The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
And the third woe takes place a short time later in the 12 chapter.
Revelation 12:12 KJVS
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
So clearly, the manchild being caught up to the throne of God, Re 12:5, takes place in the middle of the tribulation. At the seventh trumpet.
Revelation 11:15 KJVS
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Jesus mentioned Days of Noah which is ESCAPE then Judgment
Jesus mentioned Days of Lot which is ESCAPE then Judgment
Are you making a case for Judgment then escape? Because that's not an escape... that's a rescue. God didn't rescue Noah or Lot. God gave them SPECIFIC instructions on how to escape judgment...
We escape judgment by simply believing Jesus died for our sins and rose again.
I would like to add that on a heliocentric model of the Earth is a globe, the gates of heaven given as measurements would be miles above the ground. Jesus, God and the angel are specific with this measurement and measurements. This contributes towards my belief, along with other things in the Bible and the measurements we are given of the globe, that the Earth is a terrarium made for us and his flat, not like a pizza, but more like a terrarium and we live on the flat surface of the terrarium
Stop. Focus on the Lord.
Could also be a pyramid.
Since the living.....will never precede the fallen asleep [dead] (1Th 4:15), the Rapture of the living can't possibly occur before "The Last Day" Resurrection (Jn 6:39-40,44,54).
Accordingly, Skip's "Pre-Tribulation" Rapture interpretation of Jn 14:3 is fundamentally flawed, and another interpretation is needed, preferably one, consistent with the context and the grammar of the original (Greek) text.
None of the resurrections spoken in the Old Testament, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John resurrection, or ones in Revelation 20:4-6 have anything to do with the clouds and the air. None are changed and caught up. Our resurrection happens IN THE CLOUDS and IN THE AIR and some will be alive and remain. We are changed and caught up. This is different.
The dead will receive their glorified bodies first, THEN those of us who are alive will be transformed in the blink of an eye then are snatched into the air to meet our Lord in the clouds. Allen Nolan has wonderful way of teaching the end times with timeliness and explaining them verse by verse.
@@Pre-Tribulation There is only one "Resurrection of the Justified "(Lk 14:14) and it will occur within "The Last Day" (Jn 6:39-40,44,54), and is elsewhere called "The First Resurrection" (Rev 20:5-6), which distinguishes it from the resurrection of the wicked, after the Millennial reign.
Different accounts reveal different information. In order to obtain a full detailed account of an event, one must link the unique parts, and merge the details in a way that does not contradict other accounts. For example, the "Harpadzo"-Rapture" passages (1Th 4:14-17) correlates with the "Harvest of the Wheat" (Mt 13:30), but does not mention immortal bodies, nor occurring at "The Last Trumpet" (1Cor 15:50-52), nor occurring "The Last Day (Jn 6:39-40,44,54, yet it does reveal that the tares are removed first and bundled for burning later, while the harvest accounts in John's vision-(Rev 14:14-18), reveal that the grapes of the earth (Rev 14:17-18) are harvested last, and are cast into the winepress of the wrath of God, which will be trodden by Jesus , outside the city (Rev 14:20) in the Valley of Josephat (Joel 3:9-17).
Lastly, the Harvest-Gathering occurs at the end of the age (Mt 13:39), during "The Day of the Lord" (2Th 2:1-2), , the same day as the Rapture (1Th 4:17-5:2, when read in full trailing context), as well as the same day that the wicked and ungodly are slain (Is 13:6-15, Jer 46:10, Joel 1:15, 4:15-16) , as well as the day when the present heavens and earth will be burned-up with intense heat (2Pet 3:10-12), making "The Day of the Lord" the day of His "Coming" and "Our Gathering" (2Th 2:1-2), with a "Great Trumpet" (Mt 24:31), as well as "The end of the Days" (Dan 12:13) and The End of the age (Mt 24:3), elsewher described as, "a day like none other" (Jerr 30:7).
It is true God did not appoint us to his Wrath the whole tribulation is not his Wrath it is the Antichrist the devil and so on. Jesus did himself say that we would not Escape tribulation I believe that the Rapture and the second coming are the same event I can appreciate the understanding of people that believe in a pre-trib rapture I just happened to believe in a post-trib rapture. At the end of the day salvation and eternity with our God and our savior is what's important. Don't misunderstand I believe it is important to understand the whole Bible I just cannot accept a pre-trib rapture that being said I believed in a pre-trib rapture for over 30 years, through much consideration and study I have changed my view and when I did change my view it made a lot of the scripture more meaningful to me and answered a lot of questions. I respect my brothers and sisters viewpoint.
_"It is true God did not appoint us to his Wrath the whole tribulation is not his Wrath it is the Antichrist the devil and so on."_
*=====>* That's a claim coming from you in the form of a negation...where's the support for that in the scripture?
_"Jesus did himself say that we would not Escape tribulation I believe that the Rapture and the second coming are the same event"_
*=====>* You're melding together, "tribulation/trials/persecution/troubles/etc" with *THEE* 7 year tribulation, but if you think Christ said we'd be here for the tribulation, again...where's the support for that in the scripture?
Nope. All God.
Be PreTrib Rapture Ready!
Rapture has a deep meaning.
Be tribulation ready through an enduring faith in the Living God.
@@jannaswanson271 ...
Won't need to if we are raptured....
"Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”
Luke 21:28
"Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
Luke 21:36
What things?
The signs that are beginning to happen, things are beginning to happen.
And we are to count ourselves 'Worthy to Escape' .....Before it comes to Pass.
"Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth."
Rev 3:10
Those who are left in the time of the 7year 'Tribulation' will have to endure to the end.
@@nia5520 These verses are about the Second Coming. There is a First Coming and a Second Coming- not a One and One half Coming.
Revelation 3:10 is about the Philadelphia church. do you know what church you are in?
This is what the Bible says,
The saints will not take the mark of the beast nor suffer God's wrath. II Thessalonians 2 tells us that we will be here when the anti-christ is revealed. Revelation 13 says that the anti-christ will be allowed to overcome the saints for a time. Revelation 14 tells the saints to persevere and that "“Blessed are the dead-those who die in the Lord from this moment on.” because then in Revelation 20 we hear of those who are beheaded for the sake of Christ in the Tribulation will reign with Christ in the millennial kingdom.
Then of course we have Jesus's own words. When His disciples asked Him about the end of days He said this in Matthew 24,
"Immediately after the tribulation of those days: ‘The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’ At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other."
@@jannaswanson271
Of course....the Philadelphian Church, that's why Jesus said we will 'ESCAPE!'....
That means NOT gonna be in the 7year Tribulation ...
10."Because you have kept My command to persevere, 'I also will keep you from the hour of trial' which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth!" Rev3:10
Post Trib belief has no dispensation or rightly dividing, so that means the blind folds are on and cannot see the that each prophecetic timeline is for timely events that are unfolding in its context, so obvious.
Skip Heitzig, again and again our Lord Jesus Christ, neither the remaining eleven apostles plus Matthias the one chosen or selected to replace Judas iscariot and the prophets of old never taught rapture (caught up, snatching, taking up, either by force etc.) Skip Heitzig read John 3:13 Hebrews 11:1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40. The whole chapter 11 highlighted were never received yet the promised. Skip Heitzig read the Hebrews 11:16 BUT now they desire a better country, that is, heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath "prepared" for them
a city. Skip Heitzig check this word prepared in Revelation 21:1,2,3,4, and read the whole chapter Revelation 21. But Skip Heitzig check the word "Prepared " in Revelation chapter 21:1 And I saw a new Heaven and a new earth: for the first Heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. VERSE 2 AND I JOHN SAW THE HOLY CITY, NEW JERUSALEM COMING DOWN FROM GOD "OUT OF HEAVEN, "PREPARED " AS A BRIDE ADORNED FOR HER HUSBAND. READ THE WHOLE NEXT VERSES. TO SUPPORT THAT THE RAPTURE YOU ARE TEACHINGS AND TO PASTORS, PREACHERS, TEACHERS, PRIESTS, BISHOPS, CARDINALS, POPES, ELDERS, DEACONS, EVANGELICALS, SEMINARIES, SEMINARIANS AND ARE ALL ABSOLUTELY AND COMPLETELY FALSE. READ MATTHEW 24:27,28,29,30,31. SKIP HEITZIG CHECK THE WORD S"GATHER TOGETHER " TO READ WHOLE VERSE MATTHEW 24:31 AND HE SHALL SEND HIS ANGELS WITH A GREAT SOUND OF A TRUMPET, AND THEY SHALL GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT (NOT CHURCH) FROM THE FOUR WINDS, (NOT TWINKLING OF AN EYE) FROM ONE END OF HEAVEN TO THE OTHER. THESE ARE WORDS OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST NOT THE WORDS OF FALSE APOSTLE PAUL AKA SAUL OF TARSUS. ANOTHER PARALLEL VERSES TO SUPPORTS MARK 13:24,25,26,27. ANOTHER PASSAGES TO SUPPORT JOHN 17:15 JOHN 5:25 REVELATION 3:10 JOHN 14:1-6 MATTHEW 10:22( THOSE WHO ENDURE TO THE END WILL BE SAVED, NOT RAPTURED) PARALLEL PASSAGE MATTHEW 24:13 BUT HE THAT SHALL ENDURE UNTO THE END, THE SAME SHALL BE SAVED(NOT RAPTURED) PARALLEL PASSAGE IN MATTHEW 5:5 JESUS CHRIST SAID BLESSED ARE MEEK: FOR THEY SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH. TO ALL FALSE PASTORS, FALSE PREACHERS, FALSE TEACHERS, FALSE PRIESTS, FALSE BISHOPS, FALSE CARDINALS, FALSE POPES, FALSE EVANGELICALS, FALSE SEMINARIANS, FALSE DEACONS, FALSE ELDERS, FALSE SEMINARIES AND ALL FALSE PROPHETS FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELTS...THE ANTI CHRIST, THE BEAST WILL BE THE ONES SNATCHING AND THROWN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE. ALSO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE WILL BE THROWN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE.
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Buy the truth and sell it not; also wisdom, and instructions, and understanding. Proverbs 23:23 KJV
BE NOT DECEIVED!!!
Hell is going to be full of preachers, and false prophets who has denied giving the people, the undivided truth!
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. John 8:32; 10:9-11; 14:6-12; Luke 24:45-47; Acts 2:38-39; Ephesians 4:4-5; Colossians 3:17 KJV
Don’t allow anyone to sugar coat your only soul to the lake of fire to burn forever. Who report do you believe? Read, read, read all about it beloved. Psalms 9:17; Isaiah 5:14-16; 66:23-24; Revelations 21:8 KJV
Beloved soul, be very sure before leaving this life, to allow the main thing of the main thing to be the main thing in our lives. There is only, if we carefully think about it, two choices in life “Deuteronomy 30:15” to choose from.
THE RIGHT CHOICE! THE WRONG CHOICE!
Jesus said in Mark 16:16, He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. What I observe from this quote from Jesus is two choices laid out before us.
Believe the gospel of Jesus Christ and be saved, believe not the gospel of Jesus Christ and be damned. A saved be and a damned be, and which be we choose will be the be we be when we depart this life.
My heart is grieving for the many souls that have not a clue of what the Lord requires of us to do to be saved indeed. I am stressing to each and everyone of us, to let no man deceive you, “John 5:39-40” you and I have one soul, and we are heading back to eternity to give an account of the deeds done in our body’s, if we don’t get saved the only way that’s recorded on record in the Word of God to be saved “Acts 2:38-39” during the church age, so we can indeed be numbered among them “1st Peter 2:9-10” which are sanctified, then forever our souls will be lost.
HERE IS THE MAIN THING OF THE MAIN THING WE MUST POSSESS IN OUR LIVES BEFORE DEPARTING THIS LIFE!
Be sure we read and follow the instructions concerning the fine print here. Our very souls is truly affected by it.
A life insurance policy for our very souls before the death angel shows up is much needed!
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
The believing Jews obeyed and did it. Acts 2:38-39 KJV
The believing Samaritans obeyed and did it. Acts 8:16 KJV
The believing Ethiopian obeyed and did it. Acts 8:36 KJV
The believing Gentiles were commanded to obey and do it. Acts 10:48 KJV
The believing disciples of John were re-baptized after being updated to do it. Acts 19:5 KJV
Beloved souls, be not deceived!
The book of Acts is the ONLY book in the Bible which explains how to get the savior and be born again, and after the book of Acts, we have 22 books called the epistles, teaching us that, denying ungodliness, and worldly lust, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world; Titus 2:12 KJV
The gospel of Jesus Christ is the ONLY thing in our world that can subdue and conquer this monstrosity in our lives called SIN!
Beloved ones, save yourselves from this wicked, perverse, untoward God generation and them that will hear you.
Trust and obey, for there’s no other way, to be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey.
We admonish one and all, to search out a place of worship where the Truth is being taught so we can indeed lay hold on eternal life and be free indeed.
I would be willing to guide any hungry, and willing soul in search for the undivided Truth, to a place in your area which will feed your very soul’s with manner from on high.
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If someone makes the Bible your disability you become the most interesting person in the world.:,-)
And makes them rich 💰💰💰
There's no Biblical basis scriptural that shows There's a pretribulation rapture.
The rapture of living saints was a mystery until revealed to the Apostle Paul. If that is true, Jesus was speaking of the resurrection of dead saints in John 14. If you look at I Thessalonians 4, it says that the dead in Christ will rise first. Jesus will bring the souls and spirits from heaven of the saints who died in Christ prior to the rapture. The soul and spirit will be incorporated into the resurrected body, and Jesus will receive that body unto Himself. The only thing the Jews knew was the resurrection of dead saints in the last days.
There was no prophecy in the OT regarding the rapture of living saints. BUT it is in type and his name is Enoch who was translated. God just took him. Wow!! He was translated hundreds of years before the flood. No one saw Enoch translated except God. BUT they did see Elijah taken to heaven. Why the difference? Because Enoch is a picture of the Church being changed in a moment, in the twinkling of eye, so there no way a person can see that happen. BUT they will watch Elijah and another witness lie dead in Jerusalem for 3.5 days in the middle of the tribulation and watch them be resurrected on live TV.
If you disagree with my interpretation of John 14, that is ok, because the dead and living saints will be gathered by Jesus according to I Thess. 14:13-18. It is going to happen. My argument is the rapture of living saints was not revealed until I Cor 15, so Jesus was only talking about receiving the glorified bodies of dead saints until Himself. God gave Paul multiple mysteries. One more mystery. When the full number of Gentiles are saved, the God turns His focus back on Israel. The mystery is the fullness of the Gentiles being saved before the time of Jacob's trouble.
God bless.
but the word "rapture" is not in the Bible :)
The only way to teach that the rapture is in the Bible is to use a Latin translation some 400 years later. They don’t argue for a rapture from the Greek because they know the Greek can have multiple meanings so they appeal to the Latin. That’s ludicrous. Just be honest people and stop trying to shield people from other possibility’s. It’s called control and manipulation.
Neither is the word Trinity 😊 but the concept is there 🤔
Neither is the word " Bible " yet we read it.
@@pasqm3 that’s not the argument I’m making. I’m not saying you can’t argue for a rapture, what I’m saying is it’s dumb to argue from the Latin translation. Who the heck reads Latin anyway? It’s irrelevant. Argue from the language the thing was written in.
@@kathleeneslinger6978 with all kindness and respect this is a straw man fallacy. I’m not saying that because something isn’t mentioned in the Bible that it’s not true. I’m saying argue from the original text, not an interpretation of the text.
Natural selection is the character flaw in evil that is integrity is more important than life otherwise evolution is tragic circumstances with nothing intelligent happening. Almost everyone survive until they reproduce. Nothing is getting selected except for the character flaw in evil. I found a replacement for the character flaw in evil that I liked but God makes me forget things that will cause me trouble.;)
Church state separate and these false churches closed their backs
So research people in Jesus name
I am of the belief that Christians are not only the body of Christ, but also the church. Yet you stated we were also the bride which has always been Israel. I don't see how we can be the bride when all prophecy
Points towards Israel being the bride if Christ
The Bride is in the Father’s House while Israel is on the Earth... Revelation 19:8, SHE is adorned in fine white clean linen. Then she is following Jesus during the return, Revelation 19:14-15
Israel is the wife of Jehovah *=====>* "For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called." *Isaiah 54:5*
On the o/hand, the CHURCH is the bride of Christ *=====>* "For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body." *Eph. **5:22**ff*
Rapture? No, not happening
The Rapture is only for the Body of Christ Church. If it doesn't happen for YOU? Then you need to repent right now!!!! Believe Jesus died for your sins and rose again and you will be saved!
So, for the earnest seeker of truth, if it's not going to HAPPEN, could you maybe take the time to explain just how e/thing will come to pass? I mean, the video was nearly 45 minutes long, & you most likely didn't view it...that's not a problem, we get it that you're ANTI-pretrib, but really...in place of your CRITICISM, how is e/thing going down in your HUMBLE opinion?
2 Thessalonians 2:8 describes the second coming of Christ along with the first resurrection. After a thousand years go by Jesus returns to Earth with the saints for the second resurrection of the wicked, and Satan is loosed from his prison of circumstances for a short season to once again deceive those who were destroyed by the brightness of Jesus' second coming.
Folks we are the salt and light of Jesus and it makes no sense to remove the light in the darkest day's of Earth's history.
Jesus promises to sustain those who's faith is in Him in these most evil of days.. just like Elijah and others who put their trust, and faith in God.
The reason why the pre-tribulation rapture is so appealing, and therefore excepted is because we are creatures by and by most likely to take the path of least resistance.. and who doesn't want to leave planet Earth as what's described in the Bible as the worst time in our planets history.
Z28-310.
"The Rapture of the Church - John 14:1-6"
I believe this...Kind preacher and...(Sorry for the VERY long "comment". But I believe it NEEDS to be espoused)
Most assume the "Church"; are those that go to churches. Now we know Jesus IS going to come back to "Rapture his sheep" Amen!. And take us to the Old Heaven. Praise Jesus. And The bible says in:
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For Jesus himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump (the last of 7 Trumpets) of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with Jesus.
Now...who are the dead and the living, of Christ? Hmm? Most assume they are the people who go to churches? Well it's not. For most people who go to churches; are NOT Born Again, sad. But true and very much now.
Now, Jesus made clear in John 3:3 ...Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be (Spiritual) born again*, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Also, most believe that Jesus is going to come back to this earth. Well he's NOT. For, He proved that in 1 Thess 4:16-17. Thus, He would meet us (Born Again only) IN the AIR. Not the earth. And, he will never come back to this old, sinful earth*. Even though most believe; that He is coming back to this earth. Sad. He's not. No need!
End of Story and I rest me case...
...In any case Brethren, Please Pray OFTEN and Praise Jesus OFTEN; for He is the ONLY true "God Almighty"; there will ever have been. And may Jesus bless you and yours always. AMEN!
* Jesus and the Born Again WILL be taken into the New earth; and New Heaven after "Judgment Day". Where and when Jesus casts all the non born again's ("Goats") into hell. And takes us Born Again's ("Sheep"); to the New earth and the new Heaven. Then He destroys the old earth and old Heaven. Praise Jesus.
Revelation 21:4 And Jesus shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Matthew 24:29-31
"Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days... will send his angels to gather the elect..."
Those that do not believe these words of Jesus will not go in the rapture. If you do not believe Jesus, you are not a Christian.
Enough said.
you wrote it... He will SEND HIS ANGELS, to do it... not the rapture
1Thes4... HE HIMSELF does it... Harpazo(rapture)
clearly not the same.
seems easy to say, you're not a christian but a churchstain. but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt since you show yourself to be a milk drinker. if you want more than just milk im happy to guide.
You're mixed up. That's the second coming, when we will be with the Lord.
Raptured means torn apart. There is no.taken up to heavon in a blink of an eye. Raptured aka torn apart by bombs
Harpazo is where we get Rapture... Harpazo is a violent snatching away from harm.
This is not new. I've heard it!
The pre-tribulation Rapture is a brazen unbiblical utterly false Doctrine. It is a false prophecy.
Matthew 24:29 is the signs and the sun in the Moon. The day of the Lord comes after the signs in the sun in the Moon (Joel prophecy)... verses 30 and 31 in chapter 24 of Matthew are clearly the same event as 1st Thessalonians 4:16 and 17. You can also look at 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 1 through 3 and we see that Christ's return and the Gathering of the select occurs AFTER the revelation of antichrist. 1st Corinthians chapter 15 gives the order of the resurrection and the order is very clear Christ first and then as coming he gathers all of his elect from all ages from Adam to the last person saved before Christ appears. At the LAST trump. The church is not appointed to Raph. The wrath of God commences on the day of the Lord which is when Christ appears in flaming fire with his mighty angels and at that moment the dead in Christ rise and those who are alive and remain or caught up together to meet the Lord in the air as he descends to Earth. I have more scriptures but if these don't persuade you, don't tell me that you believe the Word of God...
The day of the Lord is the 7 year tribulation and even the 1000 year reign of Christ upon the earth. The day of Jesus Christ is the catching away. Matthew 24:29 is NOT the catching away. It is another event and I used to not be able to read correctly myself and thought this was the rapture at the end of the tribulation. I was wrong. In the catching away, Jesus Christ gathers us. In the Matthew 24 event, God sends his ANGELS to gather the elect from one end of HEAVEN to another. It does not say in the air like Thessalonians. I don't believe in a bungee jumping catching away where we will be caught up and then flung back down. That is silly. God is not an idiot. He will keep us from (not through) the hour of temptation that is coming upon the whole earth to test them that dwell upon the earth. God will not protect or save you during the great tribulation. He will keep only the 144,000 protected. The tribulation saints have to die because they have to "wash their own robes in the blood of the lamb" The church of Christ does not wash their own robes. Jesus Christ washes and sanctifies us. The great tribulation is Jacobs trouble. It is not the church's trouble.
During The Rapture, Jesus HIMSELF decends from Heaven with a shout and the Trump of God. The dead in Christ are raised, then we are changed, then caught up to meet Jesus in the clouds and in the air. During the RETURN, we follow Jesus from Heaven to the Earth WITH the armies of Heaven. This isn't a "Jesus himself" event
@@Pre-Tribulation hello pre-trib Warrior how are you my name is Roy. Before we begin to understand what the penalty is for being a false prophet and making false prophecies. You speak with absolute Authority. Let's start with that. Do you understand that there is no mercy from God Port false prophets?
@@Rbl7132 Before you start calling me a false prophet, you need to 1st understand that you may be wrong. I can use verses and you can't. That's the problem
@@Rbl7132 Revelation 1:5-6... GO READ IT!!! The Blood of Jesus makes us Kings and Priests!!! Don't believe me... READ IT FOR YOURSELF...
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Then flip over to Revelation 4:4. How are they dressed? Raminent is used for royalty.
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Then read Revelation 5:9-10. The Elders see all seals opened in Heaven, they are redeemed by the blood of Jesus to get into Heaven, and they will rule on the Earth as Kings and Priests. Then go to Revelation 20:4. We are the ones sitting on thrones and power of JUDGMENT is given to us. We outrank the beheaded saints who get a full resurrection on Earth where the grass grows. They are NOT resurrected in the clouds, see 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 about WHERE the dead in Christ are raised!
We aren't raptured, the evil on earth is. "On earth as in heaven" for one.
Wow. That’s a brand new heresy. Never heard that one before.
@@peregrino9154 read your scripture, "on earth as in heaven" and others.
wow. So OFF. May God have mercy on your soul.
Dear Pastor, you are fully aware that the word RAPTURE is nowhere to be found in the KJV Bible, are you ?
Use "caught up". The Greek word is harpazo. That is a sudden removal from harm. Sort of like Days of Noah and Days of Lot. They escaped