Briahna Joy Gray: Elites' Identity Politics ATTACK On Student Debtors
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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2022
- Briahna Joy Gray makes the case that elites have weaponized identity politics to take down student debt cancellation. #StudentLoans #IdentityPolitics #Elite #education
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GOP: we don't like handouts, CONGRESS: handouts all day long to rich people from both Dems/Rep.
This is so dishonest. A tax cut goes to tax payers. The top 1% pay 40% of the nation’s taxes. Tax cuts are good to stimulate the economy. Tax cuts can only go to tax payers. Everyone who paid taxes got a tax cut. I’m so sick of the tired old lies.
Tax cuts are not handouts.
Tax cuts are not handouts. If you’re talking about bailouts, I agree.
@@AnaLucia-wy2ii A tax cut for a corporation that spends more on lobbying than it pays in taxes, and offshores jobs -- which usually means they "use" services like the Merchant Marines more than you or I do -- is a handout.
@@l.w.paradis2108 precisely!
@@AnaLucia-wy2ii Tax cuts absolutely are handouts if you are wealthy.
When Bri sticks to the underlying class/elitist power structure she is at her best
Its her strength indeed!
It's always been a class war at home. Nothing else
She has a pretty liberal definition of working class though. I never thought a liberal arts major making something shy of 75k in their first job was working class.
@@Atomb Working class means more than just working with your body, though I agree 75k is doing okay. But it wasn't that long ago that it was doing far far far better. 75k is nothing in some of our major cities now. Unfortunately, that's where the majority of jobs that pay 75k are.
A college grad with a liberal arts degree getting $75K in their 1st jon is NOT working class. They should be the most humble and great full person on the planet because they actually got a job with that useless degree.
And I CAN say that because I have a general business degree, and it's useless too.
Briahna is brilliant here. It was infuriating to watch Batya's fake populist take on Monday in which her mental gymnastics sought to pit working people against each other, fighting over crumbs. I would say she is well intentioned and perhaps inadvertently repackaging elitist political talking points, but I think she is too smart for that - she knows what she is doing. It is so gratifying to see Briahna actually call her out and so systematically counter her argument.
100%
I find Batya to be super disingenuous
Without high cost college, the military would lose a hook to enlist poor and working class youth.
Great point.
THIS!!!
Sadly, the military offers our country's best vocational and technical education, and payment for college afterwards. Being in the military alone is a valuable experience. Then you have to weigh it against your overall mission, which is 650,000 deaths in Iraq, etc.
For the WWII generation, the ethical decisions were easy.
@Dirk Jefferson How is that? With many youth ineligible to serve for weight and other reasons, education benefits remain a lure.
THIS
The fact that a lot of jobs that "require" a degree but could easily be done by someone who worked their way up through the company is elitism.
does that include scientists & engineers ??
Exactly. People like Brie just want other people to subsidize their own elitism.
This isn't actually a bad take. Some people do in fact learn better through experience rather than the classroom and are sometimes denied promotion and higher pay because of a lack of a degree. That's fair. But that's not the fault of borrowers or the government, that's the fault of elitist corporate structures that have all the decent paying employment opportunities.
@@direwolf6234 No the tons of jobs that require a bachelors but don't specify what the degree is in. That is elite gate keeping.
A good deal of that is changing, now we have many different levels in the medical profession such as PAs and nurse practitioners. I am in IT and work for a fortune 100 company that once required a degree (lol, mine is in psychology, but it was a degree so acceptable), now it is preferred (and seriously, when it was required it was required). You can't change the company or their culture, but often times do. I believe this will continue to be the norm.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯🎯 first responder with college debt here second everything Brie said. Also having worked in a coffee shop in college I'm prepared to assert positively the average barista works way harder than Ted Cruz 😂
Thank you for your service...these people act as though first responders, teachers, waiters, social works, gig workers etc aren't tax paying WORKING CLASS people who would get some kind of benefit.
What did you go to school for?
He went to college for an education. Irrelevant his field of study. Some people have a desire to expand their minds and intellect. To be an educated informed society.
@@mobilityendurancestrength6210 that's all fine and good, but that is something you might "want" to do. I want to do a lot of things. This idea that learning for the sake of learning should be paid for by other people is garbage utopianism. In the age of the internet there is almost nothing you can't learn for free if it's purely for your own enjoyment.
@@rupertneverton3887 Only the naiive talk about "useless majors" and "learning for learning's sake". College is a box checking exercise, nobody cares what you've learned. Every job board has loads of decent paying jobs whose only requirement is "bachelors degree", doesnt matter in what. So I have to laugh at people who keep going on about "useless majors" or asking what i went to school for or imagining anybody's spending that kind of money to sit around and just "learn for learning's sake".
She makes me mad at times, but segments like this remind me why I love Briahna Joy Gray. She articulated my 35 year disillusionment with the Democratic Party.
And for the record, I had 10,000 in student debt when I graduated (state school, 1994) and that not only paid for school, but allowed me to take two backpacking trips to Europe. I also paid my loans off in 10 years. I not only support what Biden is doing, but feel it doesn't go far enough. I would rather pay taxes to support "free college" than fund a war in the Ukraine.
She came prepared and there’s no equal in the debate
Basically you vote republican and now she is attacking democrats. How small minded of you.
@@sguardian870 bad assumption I vote from both. I’m not loyal to a party. Try again. Are you Democratic because they seem attack with insults to people
I too graduated undergrad school and paid off my student loan debt. I paid out of pocket for two master’s degrees. After moving had the opportunity to attend an APA accredited school psychology program…which is clinical field but state licensure board refused to allow me to sit for licensure exam. So went to neighboring state and took same test . Upon licensure practiced providing mental health services to children primarily on Medicaid (98% of population). Balance is 2 1/2 to 3X more than borrowed. 65 years old and husband who lost his job because of Parkinson’s. Insurance from Affordable Health Care cost me approx. 1000.00 . I was one of two psychologist who took Medicaid! I lived a life similar to those children (4 room house with no indoor toilet). But then husband lost his job due to Parkinson’s, I lost health insurance. Due to husband’s illness and disability had to stop working a job that 2 1/2 hour drive one way. Disabled husband has already fallen and dislocated a should…which required surgery. Now he staggers, stumbles, and almost falls on a regular basis. So am his caregiver and can’t work. No body realizes the hurt of not being able to give to those children. Nor do these elites (like Ted Cruze or MTG or Pelosi’s or Trumps) understand. Yes, I paid off my student loans in the 90s. I had a payment booklet and it was doable. The elites do not realize how loan servicers change constantly. Student loans today are designed so people can’t pay them off nor can people file for bankruptcy. While I do NOT like what is happening politically….I am devastated by republicans reaction to student loan help…. A student loan should not be a life sentence. So I will NOW vote democrat.
Bill Maher had a response that she cut. He made a very good point about how some degrees make sense and others are a scam. We need engineers and doctors to go to school. Not managers at Hollister.
Thank you Briana- I've been losing my mind listening to some of these narratives. I'm a formerly incarcerated adult, and I am pursuing an MSW- loans are a nightmare.
Good for you! Formerly incarcerated people have so many obstacles thrown at them, to try and make honest, decent lives for themselves. I hope you're able to get through your MSW program and achieve your goals!!❤
Bravo, Briahna! Thank you.
Look back at the post WWI GI Bill where soldiers received college benefits. Congress did a study discussed in the 1980's that showed for every dollar invested in college had a return of $6.90 in increased taxes. And that does not include the benefit of innovation gained. It is a win for all to support our youth. I am 75 and when I went to college it cost $975 a year for tuition. I could almost pay that with earnings made in the summer. Call out the university industry.
yes .. the GI bill helped create the middle class of the 50s & 60s ...
@@direwolf6234 The destruction of Europe and Japan from WW2 helped create the middle class.
Go Bri! Like Reiner, I paid less than $1000 to get my degree. I don't think any student who took out a loan understood compounded interest! The real question is why don't we have free public higher education like Germany, Slovenia, and many other European countries///
Most of Europe, and most of the developed and developing world, has tuition-free or nearly tuition-free college. Fees might be about equal to $1000 per year in most of Europe, and usually less.
Probably because American taxes go to protect its global hegemony with an iron fist, by way of the military, in order to maintain reserve currency status.
The difference is in the US College is a business so anyone who wants to go to college can go to college as long as they have the money to pay. Yes there are gateways to get into certain fields. The US government came up with a policy that everyone should be able to go to college on their own dime and the government would back the loans. So now all kinds of people who probably should not go to college go to college for as long as they want taking loans to cover cost of living and college expenses which can be quite exorbitant. Then once they have graduated college they go on to a career possibly and ensure the exclusivity of job positions to only those with college degrees essentially to justify their own degree. There are many jobs, even quite skilled ones that should be and could be learned on the job which require a college degree to attain
SIMPLE ANSWER🙈
🇺🇸AMERICA IS NOT GERMANY OR SLOVENIA OR OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES 🇺🇸
Do you remember what a big time Democrat said some years ago?
"ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU,
BUT WHAT CAN I DO FOR MY COUNTRY"
IF YOU GOT A GRIPE WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, WHY DON'T YOU EXERCISE YOUR POWER OF THE VOTE AND MAYBE YOU CAN AND MAYBE YOU CAN ELECT LEADERS THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE UTOPIA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT JUST REMEMBER THERE IS NOTHING FREE, NOT EVEN YOUR PRECIOUS LIBERTY THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THE TREE OF LIBERTY HAS BEEN WATERED BY THE BLOOD OF EVERY GENERATION.
@@chuckcampbell3927 Back when that was said, college was within reach for anyone who studied hard and worked full time over the summer, which covered in-state tuition.
I finished paying off my $365/mo 15 year loan for my teaching degree, after paying off my Bachelor’s loan. I have much less of a problem with loan relief than the trillions in welfare and tax breaks for oligarchs and corporations.
Briahna knocked this out of the park, you can tell she has the lawyer background. I would not want to argue against her.
Right?
FACTS!!
@@MrJedBuddy or a parent
Except her Covid stances, she’d get owned by a 7th grader
Cringe
Briahna knocked this out of the park! 👏🏻👏🏻
Every point Bri raised in the segment was pure gold. Awesome to see
the identity politics of the modern democratic party are so bizarre. Like being a woman is the only reason one choses a candidate. It feels like we got dumber in the last ten years
Progressive regression!
Yeah that’s what she is calling out. That’s not being progressive or a leftist. It’s identity being used cynically to protect your class interests.
@@Eastbayrob True but a lot of progressives and progressive adjacents have adopted this way of thinking
Enough voters seem to eat it up. It's the way they do it now, get some corporatist ghoul that's the right color/gender so people overlook the flaws. They want to push this kind of thing so people ignore the bad policies. With Harris this has become extremely clear.
@@julianbluefeather8491 not just progressives but both left and the right.
LOL Briahna is so much fun to watch. She doesn't back down easily and can get fiery while still remaining coherent and on-message.
THIS THIS THIS!! That's why I don't understand how anyone could prefer Friday's with clear eyes for dry eyes and snooze fest Emily lol.
She's amazing the only good thing on this show 🤠
She's a star. I enjoy Robbie as well. Saw someone take a stab at Emily. I like Emily and Ryan. Bri is just a star so people can be good but still not compare
There are times that I couldn't disagree with Bri more but I am still captivated by her arguments. Someone is going to steal her away from the Hill.
@@LPAFilm Emily is a snooze to me too, but nobody bores more than the droning, expressionless Ryan, who is constantly falling asleep in his own face.
@@obiodogwu6313 Delusion at its finest lol.
Brie just wrote her farewell from Rising and I love her even more for it!
Rising has lacked any balance on this subject while you were away. Thank God for this.
Well done bri. This country desperately needs you!
So refreshing to see hosts having different opinions on the same show!
There will be plenty of echo chamber loving commenters losing their minds about BJGs radar below.
Agreed this is the American way
I agree, but Robbie doesn't seem to care that he can't counter Bri's argument about the contractual obligation of student debt being unjust, regardless of the debtors supposed voluntary entry into it. To me, this uses a definition of voluntary that is completely blind to the way our society demands we get degrees, and the coercive nature of contracts between parties with wildly unequal amounts of power. He can't seem to counter that, but he doesn't care, he insists on his point of view regardless of its irrationality.
@@joshbobst1629 Exactly...to be fair, Robby usually brings nothing to the table as far as I'm concerned other than good looks and dry humor. That is all!
@@joshbobst1629 my exact thoughts, bravo!
Thank you Bri for calling him out and asking how would you do it
@@MrJedBuddy she supports Bernie’s plan of free college being paid for by taxes on the elites and Wall Street transactions
WOW! Bri hit it out of the park today. Thanks!!!
When I was in university in 2001 it was about 3k a year for instate living at home with my folks. Now at the same school it is about 14k. That is what needs to be addressed. If it was all inflation it would about around 5 to 6k.
I went to community college in 2004. It was 18 a credit. Now it is free. I do not get my money back but I worked and paid for my credits with part time work. However to live in that city and the taxes, its outrageous.
Watch that price subtly increase to $16,500 a year after the student debt relief..
It's all the adminstration costs. Especially with the growth of grievance jobs
Ooooh…bri came to this radar with all the receipts-literally! 🔥
I don’t always agree with Brianna but she makes a great point in this clip
What point did she make? All I heard was how if you are against what she says you are elite. That, and if she doesn't agree with your plan and you can't show at least 20 years of support you aren't worth talking to.
@@chadjespersen8780 lol that’s the first 2 mins of the clip bro. Just admit you didn’t watch
@@chadjespersen8780 Uh maybe listen instead of hate watch?!? The primary point she made is that all the hand wringing from faux populists that “this is really a hand out to elite’s who don’t need help anyway” is abjectly false. The relief specifically excludes all these “rich people getting bailouts” examples people like Batya and Maher are trotting out. Additionally she points out that while this is in no way a long term solution it provides some relief via the only mechanism our broken political system can muster, and that Robbie’s objections are essentially making the perfect the enemy of the good.
@@jayware4219 I did watch the whole thing. I watched when she made ad hominem attacks on everyone that has not been a vocal opponent of this issue for at least 15 years. I watched where she deflected when Robbie stated other options. I watched when she misconstrued what Bill Maher was talking about - and Rob Reiner agreed to.
The point is, she does not listen to anything other than what affirms her ideas.
Exactly
You go, Bri! Rip him one!
THANK YOU BRIE!!!!! Excellent radar and I’m glad you addressed Batya’s disingenuous radar
🤬 OMG, disingenuous AF!
Corporate bail outs, bank bail outs, congressional bail outs, wall Street bail outs....
We can't even claim deductions on our taxes anymore. Most of us can't afford to buy a house. Yet here we are complaining about someone normal and poor getting a bit of debt relief. The hypocrisy has come full circle.
Bri is right. This was great...Giving credit to Biden for this bill is absurd however. It was a desperate act of self-preservation.
Bri is on fire🔥thank God for a voice fighting elitists who did not have to accrued today's insane student debt
This segment was excellent
I am with her
Credential creep is real. Some jobs are now preferring Master's degree to Bachelor's. And those jobs that we held by MAs are going to PhDs. It creates even more loan debt to get jobs that you could with less debt in the past.
Go Bri! Why can't they breakdown costs for people who couldn't finish and get them to pay back what they used instead of the full course fees.
Thank you Briahna for smacking down Batya's argument against the student loan forgiveness policy. Your arguments about it and the roots of the problem are very well written.
😂😂😂😂
@@snowbunny783 🤡🤡🤡🤡
This is legit!! Thank you Bri! This has me holding more respect for her a lot.
Robby is absolutely ignorant. It is not taken from the tax base it is printed money. Debt is money. People who have debt are actually contributing greater to GDP than those who have no debt because debt is how money is created. All debt should be forgiven across the board. It is called debt jubilee and historically been done to make sure no one amasses generational wealth and absolute wealth that keeps the majority of people in poverty.
Robby you need to study how and what the economy is actually created around. It is not a value system. As I said debt is actually money.
When money is printed at interest the interest is never printed. It requires a proportional mass of people that grows over time to become poor to service the interest. It is literally the largest ponzi scheme we have on planet Earth.
Even if the people who took out the debt for school did nothing with their education and even slacked out big time it should be forgiven. Because they were used as instruments to generate massive wealth for banks and colleges.
Essentially when a loan bonded by a word or IOU signature is created it is both insured and manifest in its totality at signing. Factor in interest and you have a loan being paid anywhere from 3 to 4 or 5 times the loan amount over time. That IOU bonded by signature and word allows anyone holding that debt to generate more loans for themselves or to claim they have equity because they hold a potential loan to be paid off. Debt selling and trading is a market. If debt is cleared or people can not pay the insurance covers the cost. So in this case the holder of debt can make multiples of the debt amount in trades and borrowing and money creation and if eventually the debt goes bad they are insured.
In truth all debt should not only be forgiven but the debtors should be paid partial interest that banks hedge funds and other debt markets made off the backs of their IOU word bond.
If you borrow and don't pay back;
YOU'RE NOTHING BUT A THIEF.
@@chuckcampbell3927 Where is your chair, car, tools, computers, utensils, dishes fridge, table... etc. where is all that made exactly and what minerals are used to make it and exactly how much do you pay for those minerals and materials. Those things are manifest and shipped by the printing of money and the military force stealing the materials and using cheap labor and energy to make them. I understand the old school honor code and I wish this kind of honor code existed today. Wherein we created what we needed we manifest what we needed through hard work and we honored our obligations as noble beings. Unfortunately that is simply not how the economic system works right now. Those who use other people's money and are in debt and manifest nothing from their own labor or energy are at the top of the system. Debt is the instrument (a new secret word for slavery) to transfer wealth and energy. So at the very least the people who borrow should get their percent of the money made off their signing up to pay back their debt because the system is not a gentlemen's system of honor anymore. It is in fact as you state theft but to view the theft coming from the borrower who does not pay is short sighted by orders of magnitude.
way to go brianna!!
Sorry Robbie,but,Briana is spot on about this.
All state universities should have free tuition, free cafeteria, and free bare bones dormitories.
Advanced education needs to be the norm.
The same is for technical and trades school.
You cannot improve our country without improving the people.
Thank you Briana for your research and hard work.
Punching down?? The idea that a college graduate working at Starbucks is punching down, not pointing out that they paid for a college degree and are working a job that requires not even a high school diploma is exactly the point.
This segment right here has given me a whole new respect for Briahna Joy Gray, no cap!
I saw this in her all along..you should check out her Bad Faith podcast!
@@LPAFilm Will do. Thanks!
I agree with Bri especially on how Ted Cruz and Bill Mahers statements are some of the most elitist rhetoric I've heard said out loud in my life time. Truly repulsive and disgusting.
I agree with both of them. There are plenty of people exactly how he described and I know them personally.
Brie is totally correct. I’ve never seen so many bad faith actors as I have on this issue.
Great segment and Briahna made a strong argument. I can understand those who say it's unfair for citizens with lower-income to pay the loans of those who went to college, but then we'd have to have a conversation about all the OTHER ways in which we fund policies with which we disagree; such as the war in Ukraine and the NIH's gain-of-function research in Wuhan, China to name a couple.
Schools for other people's kids, nukes, etc. I'm not saying we should or shouldn't have these things but it's interesting what doesn't get prioritized.
Those are all good conversations to have
@@traviscutler9912 i 1000% agree. I say these exact same things all the time. I don’t have kids, why do I have to pay for someone else’s childrens education?
@Christopher Pearson I think briahna is making the point that no one really cares they just don’t want to do thinks to help poorer people meanwhile rich people can run off with wild give aways and no one says anything
@@drewkhandi2312 Why do we have to pay for many of the WASTEFUL SPENDING IN this country. There are many things bigger than this issue that should have this same energy, but you simps are MUTE.
I love how Robby just babbled about his opinion but when asked to back it up… he cant
He did.
@@arielsanchez465 with what?
He can just see that she's seething and doesn't want to deal with her yelling.
@@Peter-kn8py maybe true… but still people going into debt. For education . For medical. For housing…. Give an actionable solution. Stop philosophizing.
@@Peter-kn8py lol what a joke
Thank you Briahna!!!!! Always using facts to make your case.
Did you mean ignoring facts?
She cherry picks big time.
Facts? Ignored all facts about Covid, ignores all facts about economics etc
@@deadgolfer6345 no, using facts. What did she ignore?
Normally, her radars are too long, but with yesterday having two identical radars on the opposite side of this debate, it made sense to give her this longer radar to push back on the rich kids Batya and Robbie mad that the poor people are getting some scraps.
I'm proud of Brihanna. Bacchas' take on this issue was soo nasty, disingenuous, wrong and bait and switch. The income cap was ignored totally, which told me everything I needed to know about Bacha. Plus her incredibly fatuous tone, as an aside. Thank you Brihanna for speaking the truth. I was outraged the other day...I know many college grads working in restaurants because they can't get jobs in their fields who are thrilled to have this burden lifted from them. A burden that's been keeping them from affording a move to where they stand a chance of finding a job where they can use their degrees.
Agree battya's take was awful and so disingenuous
Batyas take was maddening and baffling: i don’t see how it couldn’t have been purposeful deception.
Batya's take was disgusting. Especially knowing daddy paid for her education.
It was a burden they chose to take on. It is then their job to pay if off, not mine.
@@changlouriousbasterd9524 No it’s your obligation to pay for it. Like it’s my obligation to pay for Ukraine war, police, roads I don’t drive in, child tax credits I don’t benefit from etc.
I love you, Bri. You are my hero. 8)
Ok I'll say it... Batya and Bri need to debate this on air.
Exactly Brie would flat out call her out on her major untruth claiming elites would be the major beneficiaries of student debt cancellations.. I'd love to see Brie ask why Batya would go out of her way to demonize a decision that actually benefits working class graduates to her face..
@@spindragon I think that is fair and the right way to go. To me, I have a very simple work philosophy. You do not take shots at your team members. Now if you decide to publically air out your grievances in a mutually agreed upon way, which has happened on the Hill great. And if Bri did the conversation without essentially calling her team member, colleague or whatever you want to call her then that's fine too. But when she was calling out Robbie he was right there to defend himself so it's fine just seems a little weird the way it played out.
@@Evan_Infinite Batya completely misrepresented the proposal. Painting that out isn't taking a shot at Batya it's serving The Hills subscribers .. Batya shot herself by either failing to do the most basic research on the Biden's plant or out in out lying...
@@spindragon I agree she misrepresented the proposal. But she did take a shot at her and call her elitist. They work for the same company, they're essentially on the same team and definitely have each other's contact info. All I'm saying is that two grown people in that environment should have handled that situation different.
I'm not even entirely sure Bri is at fault. Maybe a different solution was offered and Batya turned it down. If that was the case it makes sense for Joy to do her radar.
From a management level I would have tried to resolve it differently but again I'm not in the room when those decisions happens so I don't know the details. Let's say me and you have different opinions on the shape of the earth I say it's flat and you're like that's bogus. I would hope you take it up with me before the larger internet community.
Iunno just my opinion I guess.
@@Evan_Infinite Brie didn't call her an elitist ...Batya claimed that the "elite" will be the beneficiaries of the proposal. Brie simply questioned her motive for lying about basic facts... If you want to blame someone Mathew blame the producers of the show for featuring two hosts that throw softballs to each other...
Beautifully said, love Brianna Joy Gray
I watched on Monday when Batya pretended to care about plumbers paying back corporate lawyers student loan debts and thought to my self "I wonder what Briahna would say?" Well here it is, she absolutely destroyed that strawman argument. I'm impressed as ever with Briahna, she got game!!
Same! Was like watching an evil tweedle Dee and ignorant tweedle dumb. Was cheering Brianna on knowing she was reading them the facts!
@@lesaamoore I’m glad everyone hates batya as much as I do lol
I wished Brianna was in Robbie’s chair Monday lol
No she didn't 🤣
This is Bri at her best
Thank you Briahna! Great argument.
Smoke!!!!! Thank you Bianha! It is easy to propose things that don’t have any chance of happening. It is sick how much the rich and powerful want to keep their money.
Our money. They get it from our labor.
This and they do it all of the time. PERFORMATIVE!
Why aren’t we questioning 1. High College tuitions? Why are Universities in this Country charging such HIGH fees for an education? Check out how low the College tuitions are in other Nations!! The Universities in this nation are to blame for these atrocious fees!!
Great point and the emphasis should be primarily on capabilities and performance of students and teachers.
The government is also responsible. The second they started backing college loans the colleges just took advantage of that
They literally discuss this every time this topic comes up. 🙃
Can you stop with this common sense, politicians don't understand that.
Trade schools also exploit the government loan program big-time my solution is apprentice programs for actual industry business
My biggest issue with the plan is that Biden could also simply have continued the repayment moratorium, which stopped interest from accruing. That benefit was far greater than a one time payment of $10,000.
I agree.
a cancellation is not a payment .. no one is getting a check in the mail ..
The plan has a mechanism which stops interest accrual for those who make a minimum 5% of income payments towards the debt. Look it up.
@@gigaman6 That's not entirely new. It's the same system Obama put in place, and there's still a low income cap.
@@direwolf6234 No one suggested there would be a check in the mail. It's a non-refundable benefit. But debt cancellation is a form of payment.
Thank you BJG... You nail it every time.
Briahna Gray is phenomenal
Rising should talk about WHY tuition has increased over 1,000% when compared to inflation. The reason is because the Federal government decided to cover college loans. Because of that dumb idea, colleges began raising prices at a faster rate than inflation since the government was covering the loans.
When I went to college, I got an art degree to be a graphic designer. It cost 13 grand for that 4-year degree in the 90s. A 3-credit course cost $300. When my niece went to college to get the same degree, it ended up costing her $67,000. The Macbook Pro that she used was an order of magnitude more powerful than the Mac Pro 7100/66 that I used while costing over a grand less. And yet the human figure drawing classes she took cost more than five times what it cost me. WHY? We both drew with the same kind of charcoals and notepads. Her drawing supplies did not cost five times as much as my drawing supplies. The nude models that posed for her did not get paid five times as much as the models that posed in my classes. Her professors were not paid five times more than my professors.
Rising should invite economist Peter Schiff on the show to talk about it. He's been talking about that for years.
You need to look back further. There was tuition-free public college in California and New York. before the 80s. It was going up before the time you are talking about because the government quit funding it as much.
My Dad who is 89 now went to UC Berkeley tuition free. In the late 70s, my sister went to Cal State with low enough fees that she had no student loans. In the 90s, I got $18,000 in debt for 2.5 years at UC Davis. I did my first half in junior college where I acquired no debt.
The solution is to fund colleges directly as we do for K- 12 schools. We could get rid of student loans at all. People could work and go to college part-time to support themselves rather than take loans if tuition was free or low cost. We should just fund the colleges like the infrastructure that they are.
@@kclaytor2 exactly this!
Briahna is among the best I've ever heard at explaining nuance of leftist thought to the average listener. She can deconstruct things that we feel really strongly about, and bring listeners along with her thinking. However, this pairing with Robby is not particularly interesting or educational. He seems to have a simplistic libertarian-on-all-issues approach which ends up sounding more like a religion than a coherent movement with useful strategies for doing anything. While Briahna is trying to balance aspirations, dreams, and creative tactics on the one hand, with the law, the system, and what is likely, possible, and practical on the other hand, Robby seems to have a black and white view of the world, and no particular concern with either the creative or the practical aspects of policies. So, a lot of what Briahna brings to the table is simply wasted in this format.
Wow, good point, I agree with you.
Spot on comment. This needs to be pinned.
yeah, not a fan of him...no nuance at all, so one note
Bravo, Briahna. You're a mouthpiece for all of us who have no microphone.
Bri came for blood today and I'm loving it.
I love this woman. Smart as a whip.
If not for Brianna I wouldn’t even watch the show bc the remaining “opinions” are consistently fighting for the corporate side of the argument. How easy it is to critique something less than perfect but look at how convenient that critique is for the corporate class…doing nothing and keeping things as they are is exactly what they want.
Almost all nursing jobs, at least in California, require or prefer a Bachelor's of Nursing...Even state schools considered the most affordable in the US are going to cost 30k a year...so 120k for a BA. And when you consider subsidized student loans are capped at $ 3500.00 a year there is not a lot of help for mid or lower income students.
Don't agree on most stuff Bri says .... but, on point with this segment
Great job Bri👏👏👏👏
Yaaaaasssss Bri! Thank you for actually fighting for the working class! We desperately need your voice out here.
Robbie sounds so privileged and naive acting like there were all these better choices students could’ve made. I worked 3 jobs while attaining my bachelor’s degree and still had $75,000 of debt at the end. What choice did I have? Don’t go to college? Continue the cycle of living paycheck to paycheck that I grew up in? I’m guessing Robbie didn’t have to think long and hard about his “choice” to pursue a higher education because it was already paid for out of pocket. I wonder, did he contemplate taking another job instead that didn’t require him having a college degree?
And I’m speaking as someone who has paid off all that debt. Someone Robbie would probably point to as an example of what should be done. Get a loan, pay it off yourself. I had to leave my whole family behind and work teaching English abroad for the past 10 years in order to be able to pay off my loans. Is that something that we really expect every “responsible” person to sacrifice? Just so that we aren’t looked at as mooching off the government?
Great radar and like that Bri called out elitist Batya. I like Batya but she works for Newsweek and is elitist in her views which is expected at establishment mags. College tuition needs a complete overhaul or this debt crisis will be unending!
Batya is a classical fascist: sb who talks about the left wing concerns and cones up with right wing solutions.
I can't stand the fake populist, Batya. She's a total culture war obsessed hack. I cringe at the sight of her.
First time I’ve ever agreed. It seems all these people complaining that collage is useless but they all have degrees. Hypocrites. Good job pointing that out.
Guidance Counselors are like lobbyists with 17 year old high school students. Maybe not forced definitely coerced and on a track since kindergarten to prepare for college. Help ads for decades requiring a degree. Trade school costing outrageous fees and many are technical colleges. I'm a senior citizen, for give student debt.
This was a great segment. Bri is a force of nature
Love BJG! I find her arguments more convincing than Robbie's - reform is needed, but relief is needed more because the suffering now is so great.
Idle question. Who suffers more? The person who took out the loan, went to college and now likely has a desk job, and now has to pay their loan back. Or the person went straight from high school to a construction site or a plumbing apprenticeship or a land survey crew, does really dirty, back-breaking work in the elements with the bugs, makes less money than the college-educated person, and and all the while the government was taking taxes from him and others like him to pay off the loans of the desk jockey?
In all fairness, Bill said after Reiners comment that college had little effect on him being where he is at now
Fantastic radar, Brianna!! ♥️♥️
Wow, you presented the information eloquently!
The way people talk about choice in this country seems like the way Jigsaw talks about people choosing to die because they didn’t get out of a reverse bear trap in time
Briahna's stand on topics like student loan forgiveness is in line with my own views and that is part of the reason I enjoy watching her so much. However, Robbie's contrasting point of view makes Briahna's views more salient and gives an understanding of why a segment of society is opposed to certain ideologies and initiatives.
And she was completely on point when she said that laying out plans and legislation is nothing but a bait and switch.
Well said!
@@joesuter2466 FACTSS!!!
Thank god for Briahna Joy Gray. That’s what I think.
Yea I was surprised by Batya’s take on this issue. She kept referring to those who make up to $125,000 (Bidens’s cap on debt forgiveness) as “The Rich”. Who me? It was gaslighting sure enough.
100%. $125k is pretty middle class is most cities. That’s why I find Batya pretty disingenuous in her arguments, she’s always trying to put to working class against each other
Sometimes I find Brianna’s radar is a little off but today she is right on the money.
Why read dystopian fiction when
you can just pay attention?
don't always agree w briahna Joy but I love her passion and the show's ability to actually debate w passion and intelligence (and civility) on all sides...
Yup, I get tired of the same robotic echo chamber voices on these platforms....Bri brings the passion, the long form radars and segments, and civility.
This episode is such a bucket of truth. Thank you Brianna for one of the best discussions of identity politics I have ever heard. I respect your point of view because it lives, rather than what the other side's non-solution does. Injustice doesn't disappear just because it gets legislated and managed, like the elite policy managers of the university systems have been doing the past several decades. Like taxation, for example, economic injustice takes different forms, and all of them benefit the wealthy- "officially", lol.
Agreed , Thank you Brianna. Yes, I am a nurse and I agreed on receiving student loans but the truth is I had no other choice. It was either take out a student loan or no school. So to say that people have a choice ? What was my alternative? The phrase on this elitism should be debt or die .
@@rebecabonilla2366 These elitist and republicans believe that working class TAX PAYING people who benefit from this can't also be poor and or working class people! Nurses, gig workers, teachers, waiters, grocers, etc
@@rebecabonilla2366 Exactly. I've seen even receptionist jobs asking for a college degree. If you want to get anywhere economically, to an ever-greater degree, college has been the only lifeline most people have. That means whatever it takes, most certainly including finding a way to pay for it, just about any way you can. Or else! You'll never own a house, be a stable marriage partner, have good savings and investments, have any kind of safety cushion, or be able to be confident you can afford children if you're on the lower economic rungs ... which is now a metric spreading to the middle class more and more.
This episode is a bucket of cope that completely misses the entire point.
A nurse that hasn't paid off their debt in 44 years is a nurse that didn't even try.
40% of working adults aren't using their degree.
College was affordable when Bill went BECAUSE not everyone went, and the government was not involved. Yes Bill hit the literal lottery to become a TV host, and all he's saying is you can't just put everyone through college to get a better job, labor is a requirement for society, so why demonize it like Bri clearly is.
And while Batya missed the mark on the where the money is going, she's not wrong. The money is going to $250k/year DEI staff and high earning school administrations. This plan helps the current working class at the expense of the next working class - and that's why it's a terrible idea.
@@dingfeldersmurfalot4560 in most cases, choices are now decided by the higher ups instead of the ones wanting to succeed and to ensure that those in the elite will make it so lucrative that you either take it or not.
Let the people of the United States vote on this issue
Briahna is STUNNING
It’s funny that she shreds the very same arguments people then come into these comments and repeat like robots- lol
What a talent Brie is! Most people lose their ability to articulate when they become “passionate” during a discussion. She doesn’t and becomes even more convincing. It’s impressive.
She's fine in a monolog. Back and forth she jumps to emotion
@@MrJedBuddy there is some correlation
She can be great and bad at times. Some of her takes on mandates are awful but this one was great.
I agree she’s talented but this was uneven. She came aware and prepared. I’d love to hear a balanced debate with a person on the opposite end. These conversations are always with a progressive vs a middle. If you have a progressive you need to debate with a conservative. I want to hear both sides
Generally when you have a prepared monologue and can read from a prompter, you do come across that way.
One of the best I've watched yet here. Thank you.
24 minutes of Bri completely debunking faux-populist Batya's argument. It was a joy to see and would love to watch it again with the two of them in the same room.
Batya is so awful she’s literally the worst out of all the hosts. All she does is just agrees with Robby all show long.
Bataya has a doctorate from Cal Berkeley. Did she pay for that out of pocket from waitressing?
yes one can only wonder ??
Thank you for this I’m sick of seeing Batty on rising, when she was just a commentator she was ok but lately she been saying things that literally only make sense if you disband every rational coming from the left, it’s annoying.
Yeah I don't watch those episodes anymore ..... right + far right is not why I like rising .....
@@daniel-zh4qc I thought it was just me!! I was wondering why they would have two right leaning pundits to host on same day.
Same. I call it Rising's "Fox News Monday"
Batty 🤣🤣
I love that Briahna used the word "mitzvah."
I appreciate the work you do on rising briahna I know it’s tough. Keep fighting.
Yes, she has liberal democrats, the far right, and even some so called ELITIST progressives coming at her. I know it can be EXHAUSTING!
The " small tax on wall street gambling" has never been clarified...so would that mean every purchase or trade would have a .5 Percent tax on it.. including 401k purchases? Pension trades ? 401k rebalancing?.. is it still a gambling tax ?
Briahna hasn't clarified it her in Rising, but Bernie's plan was very specific, if I remember. You can bet Bernie wasn't proposing policy that would cost working people.
@@MrJedBuddy I think Bernie's tax on Wall Street gambling was specifically on high speed trades. Do you think there's a difference between the kinds of safe reliable investments you'd use for retirement, like bonds or an index fund, versus the risky stuff Street traders do?
Personally, I think a government pension program like Social Security is leagues ahead of whatever private thing you might come up with. It's guaranteed that everyone participates, for one thing, and it's not nearly as vulnerable to the kind of Wall Street predation that plagues pensions and other financial instruments.
I'm so happy Briahna addressed this. Batya frustrates me because she completely misrepresented the issue and is a false populist. Briahna is Queen of the left seat.
Another thing that we can fix when the system crashes or deleverages. The debt bubbles can't go on forever.
You go girl!