Wassim Alhajomar I think you're right in general. But, if you're pitching at a learner attempting to play odd time signatures, I think it's fair for the uploader to assume a level of viewer competence such that they'll be unimpressed by "attention grabbing" playing. We definitely all came here to see what he explained perfectly, which is how to count the rhythms in a natural way.
regardless of what he knows and what viewer knows. this is youtube. in general if you dont grab your viewers attention in the first couple of seconds they are most likely going to skip to the next of thousands of videos. that is, speaking of newcommers. not usual subscribers. as my advice was aimed for newcomers not subscribers
Wassim Alhajomar As I said, I think you're right in general: i.e. if the uploader were aiming at a wide, populist audience. However, I was just considering the possibility that he wasn't and that those strategies might be less effective on the leftover demographic, given the fact that 1) musicians represent a small subset of the general population, 2) guitarists are a smaller subset within that and 3) guitarists with an interest in Balkan gypsy rhythms are an even smaller subset still - a very thin slice of the population that generalist strategies normally apply to. I, for example, having never visited this channel, subscribed on the basis of this video, so I seem to buck your trend.
I love the sound of your guitar! , reminds me of george katsaros , one of the early Greek rebetes . There was that period in Izmir where Turkish , Greek , Gypsy , jewish and Armenian music influenced eachother , politics divided us but the music does heal somewhat. Keep up that lovely tone!
In İzmir is still the same my friend. My girlfriend is a Greek living in the TheSsaloniki (Selanik) more we talk about culture, Greeks, Turks etc. , more we find out about the things those exactly the same. Food and food names, Swear words and way of swearing or getting angry, traditional proverbs, behavior and attitude of the people, family life etc. so and so. Greeks are like Turks ( I means the Turkish Turks those actually behaves like real Turk = Real Turkish culture) but only speaking different language and have different flag. Anything beside these two are exactly the same. Even religion named different but in practiver and way oıf living the religion is almost same. Motions are same too. Before I met my girl friend; I new it was close culture but never thought that it is almost exactly the same.
That was one of the doorstop videos I’ve seen in my whole life! Only 3k likes? This is absolute gold, man! With practical drills to run even! Clear teaching style, to the point at a good pace. Loved it. Subscribed.
Great lesson! I had been looking around for info on Balkan rhythms, and your lesson was super easy to follow. You explained it exactly the way I was wanting to hear it! I've been trying to study the similarities in rhythm patterns and structures in music around world (most recently African 2/3 polyrhythms) and have always been fascinated by how complex rhythms everywhere can be broken down into subdivisions or groupings of 2s & 3s.
Chugging on the E string for rhythm, similar to Metallica riffs, only they have distorted guitars. Some wayfaring traveler in the past taught me a gypsy scale & some chords to create with, I forgot the intervals, but at the time it was really a great lesson for me.
Weknow it is very good but we came here to actually learn how to play, not to listen to good music. If we just wanted to listen we would listen elsewhere
Hi just found your videos and wow they are absolutely incredible. I see its a long time since you posted anything, but if u ever feel like putting something up again you definitely have a devoted follower in me. Hope this comment finds you good, and thanks again.
You are amazing. I've followed you for years. I have a Bachelor of Music Composition and would love to get formal lessons from you one day. Well done!! ... please give me lessons!!!
Hi everybody. I'm going to be doing live lessons and Q&A sessions on my patreon which you can join for 5 dollars a month. This will also give you free access to my ebook and other tabs which I write. You can join here: www.patreon.com/user?u=2933548 My first album of original music is also available on Spotify and youtube: open.spotify.com/album/1UgDWDZVXJRKhyhH7FjBVm?si=pR5rCWm-Tqqnix_7KYEj2Q ruclips.net/video/Npbo2uPNMt8/видео.html And my ebook is available on Amazon: www.amazon.com/Learning-Balkan-Middle-Eastern-guitar-ebook/dp/B01N6M5YYE/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=murat+keyder&qid=1607879239&sr=8-1
Dude, Frank Zappa's son messaged you for lessons 11 months ago. Frank Zappa's son, who's really good. He probably figured it out by now but you should totally reply to that message. ...Frank Zappa's son messaged you, bro. That's a pinnacle milestone. Subscribed, you're awesome.
That's so awesome man, good for you!! I'm gonna come back to your videos over and over trying to get these rhythms down myself. And you've made me want to get a classical guitar even more x_x
Murat Keyder I don't think it's a bot. I think it's because you've called a part of the eastern european folk music "gypsy rhythm". Honestly it's a bit offensive calling the Balkan nations gypsies.
I would say the best way is to listen to music from that part of the world and try to drum along. The concept is pretty simple but it takes practice to follow it under a complex melody.
Great authentic playing and great instruction, if you made a dvd/ book cd etc - I'd buy it. The only minor criticism I have is, it would have been beneficial to know the tuning of the guitar and the scale ( Is it Phrygian dom, I thought maybe something else ). It would be worth stating it at the start of each vid. Otherwise, really, really good -loved it!!
hey thanks for the video very informative and easy to follow. Ive recently been getting into balkan music do you think you could possible post a video of different ornaments and trill type stuff?
Adamım çok güzel anlatmış çalmışsın . Sanırım yurtdışında yaşıyorsun İngilizce zaten efsane ! :D tablar belki yardımcı olabilir , sevinirdik eğer öyle bir şeyler de yapabilirsen, kolay gelsin ve lütfen videoların devamı da gelsin ;)
Great Playing my Friend.There is a lot more dificult rhytmicks variations in a Balkan Gypsy Music.But,you are great,no doubt abouth that..For those who want to learn it : Leb i Sol Band.. Romanian Ethno music - Kolo
Amazing playing! Great style, great talent! I'd like to learn it :) Do you have the tabs? Do you make bendings on the frets to make these nice Turkish effects on the notes?
These rhythms are neither Turkish, nor gypsy. They are Bulgarian, and Bulgarian folklore is filled with them. Gypsy music incorporates everything it has contact with, but the origins are important.
I think the title was kinda meant to include their presence in Balkan, Turkish, AND “gypsy”/Romani cultures. In which case, Bulgaria would be included because it is part of the Balkans.
Tip: start by playing to grab people's attention then explain and break it into pieces
Wassim Alhajomar I think you're right in general. But, if you're pitching at a learner attempting to play odd time signatures, I think it's fair for the uploader to assume a level of viewer competence such that they'll be unimpressed by "attention grabbing" playing. We definitely all came here to see what he explained perfectly, which is how to count the rhythms in a natural way.
regardless of what he knows and what viewer knows. this is youtube. in general if you dont grab your viewers attention in the first couple of seconds they are most likely going to skip to the next of thousands of videos. that is, speaking of newcommers. not usual subscribers. as my advice was aimed for newcomers not subscribers
Wassim Alhajomar As I said, I think you're right in general: i.e. if the uploader were aiming at a wide, populist audience. However, I was just considering the possibility that he wasn't and that those strategies might be less effective on the leftover demographic, given the fact that 1) musicians represent a small subset of the general population, 2) guitarists are a smaller subset within that and 3) guitarists with an interest in Balkan gypsy rhythms are an even smaller subset still - a very thin slice of the population that generalist strategies normally apply to. I, for example, having never visited this channel, subscribed on the basis of this video, so I seem to buck your trend.
he is worst at explaining and breaking !!
Somewhere an elderly Balkan man is mad that you are giving away his secrets.
it is not just the gipsy rhythms, but also the national folklore rhythms. great job!
I just decided I wanted to learn Turkish guitar one night. And your channel had exactly what I was looking for.
tabs please
I love the sound of your guitar! , reminds me of george katsaros , one of the early Greek rebetes .
There was that period in Izmir where Turkish , Greek , Gypsy , jewish and Armenian music influenced eachother , politics divided us but the music does heal somewhat.
Keep up that lovely tone!
so true that
Peace and love brother!
In İzmir is still the same my friend. My girlfriend is a Greek living in the TheSsaloniki (Selanik) more we talk about culture, Greeks, Turks etc. , more we find out about the things those exactly the same. Food and food names, Swear words and way of swearing or getting angry, traditional proverbs, behavior and attitude of the people, family life etc. so and so.
Greeks are like Turks ( I means the Turkish Turks those actually behaves like real Turk = Real Turkish culture) but only speaking different language and have different flag. Anything beside these two are exactly the same. Even religion named different but in practiver and way oıf living the religion is almost same. Motions are same too.
Before I met my girl friend; I new it was close culture but never thought that it is almost exactly the same.
War also divided us and killed our people
tabs please
That was one of the doorstop videos I’ve seen in my whole life! Only 3k likes? This is absolute gold, man! With practical drills to run even! Clear teaching style, to the point at a good pace. Loved it. Subscribed.
Thank you thank you=) Doorstop?
I love you for bringing this to RUclips. A VERY BIG LIKE from Hungary!!!
Köszi a fordítást.Szépen énekelt.
Absolutely fantastic tutorial. Thanks for putting this together. I can't believe I only just came across your video, really great.
Thank you thank you=)
Oh man ... i would love to have a teacher like you!!!!
me too, I can not find this teacher in this country Argentina...
DUDE, that was the most well put explanation EVER. its a shame, im greek and i cant play like that... yet. CHEERS bro, from queens!!!
tabs please
If your roots are from west its magnificent how good comprehension of music from Balkan you have.
Man he is turkish but living in the West.
You sir, are an amazing guitarist.
Well done Murat!
Could you put tabs for the scale you're using?
Looks like Phrygian dominant scale to me but I’m not sure
Its E phrgian dominant minor
@@osmanaliman2121 I'm still new to music, does dominant in this case mean that E Phrygian is the fifth?
@@Sam-qc6sz I am not so sure but I am familiar with E dominant minor so I am sure it is
@@Sam-qc6sz it's the same as the harmonic minor, but starting in a different note.
Great lesson! I had been looking around for info on Balkan rhythms, and your lesson was super easy to follow. You explained it exactly the way I was wanting to hear it! I've been trying to study the similarities in rhythm patterns and structures in music around world (most recently African 2/3 polyrhythms) and have always been fascinated by how complex rhythms everywhere can be broken down into subdivisions or groupings of 2s & 3s.
Thank you so much you give off really good vibes
aw thanks=)
I do like this, thanks bro 👍
great lessons. thanks! This will keep me busy for a while..
in corona time...
Great job Mr. Murat
Chugging on the E string for rhythm, similar to Metallica riffs, only they have distorted guitars. Some wayfaring traveler in the past taught me a gypsy scale & some chords to create with, I forgot the intervals, but at the time it was really a great lesson for me.
Why all those dislikes...? This is actually very good.
Weknow it is very good but we came here to actually learn how to play, not to listen to good music. If we just wanted to listen we would listen elsewhere
Whats the problem, no tabs? Close your eyes, use your ears!
Verry nice input!
@@murtithinker7660 or u have eyes right just look
@@c4arschfisch51 why u can look what he doing actually
@@c4arschfisch51 tabs please
Amazing lesson man!
Once again learned something new. Thanks a lot for the fast paced explanation!
Thank you... For the lesson
I reeeally enjoy these rhythms ,and the way you express them .
~~~
tabs pleasee
I just threw my guitar out of the window
I'll take it
Andre' du perez,you can do it with pratcice,dont give up. All the best from Norway.
I’m 15 and I learned this
Eser Gezgic did anybody asked
Hi just found your videos and wow they are absolutely incredible. I see its a long time since you posted anything, but if u ever feel like putting something up again you definitely have a devoted follower in me.
Hope this comment finds you good, and thanks again.
Greetings from Macedonia man :)
Yep! You nailed it!
Hey, big fan of your videos. What scale are you playing??
This is a really great lesson. Subscribed!
so appealing to my ear. wonderful . what is the guitar tuning? thank you
Thanks. It's just standard tuning.
Güzel Murat Abi ❤
Sagol=)
Very good thank you man
Awesome stuff. Thank you!
great ! I will buy your book
Trakya - Thrace
You are amazing. I've followed you for years. I have a Bachelor of Music Composition and would love to get formal lessons from you one day. Well done!! ... please give me lessons!!!
Thanks man! This was super helpful.
tabs please
Hi everybody. I'm going to be doing live lessons and Q&A sessions on my patreon which you can join for 5 dollars a month. This will also give you free access to my ebook and other tabs which I write. You can join here:
www.patreon.com/user?u=2933548
My first album of original music is also available on Spotify and youtube:
open.spotify.com/album/1UgDWDZVXJRKhyhH7FjBVm?si=pR5rCWm-Tqqnix_7KYEj2Q
ruclips.net/video/Npbo2uPNMt8/видео.html
And my ebook is available on Amazon:
www.amazon.com/Learning-Balkan-Middle-Eastern-guitar-ebook/dp/B01N6M5YYE/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=murat+keyder&qid=1607879239&sr=8-1
the spotify music is amazing! thank you !!!
This is ace! Nice breakdown, thanks for sharing dude 💜
Brilliant.
Tessekur ederim Murat
hi bro. hard to see whats going on there do u got any Tabs i wud appreciate and gr8 vid btw
Do you have some tab brother... ❤
Keeep goinggggg, very good
Dude, Frank Zappa's son messaged you for lessons 11 months ago. Frank Zappa's son, who's really good. He probably figured it out by now but you should totally reply to that message. ...Frank Zappa's son messaged you, bro. That's a pinnacle milestone. Subscribed, you're awesome.
Maybe he did not read his messages.
Duh.
Haha I just saw this. I did reply, I gave him one lesson=)
That's so awesome man, good for you!! I'm gonna come back to your videos over and over trying to get these rhythms down myself. And you've made me want to get a classical guitar even more x_x
Where did all these dislikes come from?!
Someone unleashed a dislike bot on me. They all came in one day from Vietnam and Romania. I have a mystery enemy=)
Murat Keyder
They're probably jealous, haha :D
Murat Keyder Im sorry about that :( Those jerks!
f**k em, keep going murat!
Murat Keyder I don't think it's a bot. I think it's because you've called a part of the eastern european folk music "gypsy rhythm". Honestly it's a bit offensive calling the Balkan nations gypsies.
Beautiful!!!!
This is awesome.
Oh hell yeah, that looks so fun. I need a guitar.
one style of those is called *Bosnian Sevdah* ^^
sir, you have my like. i am looking forward to learn this kind of rythm
thanks, there is a playlist of some of my original music on my channel, I'm working on more stuff too..
Bro, make a video of you how you play the Chords. Please
very good lesson! thanks!
Wow thanks always wanted to understand this.. how can i deepen my knowlage in odd rythams?
I would say the best way is to listen to music from that part of the world and try to drum along. The concept is pretty simple but it takes practice to follow it under a complex melody.
Great lessons. Please, if you can, make a lesson on balkan and oriental ornaments.
It seems your guitar is tuned differently, that is, the two tiniest strings you have tuned to the same note.
Putting the accents on the one cleared up so much.
Thank you!
Great authentic playing and great instruction, if you made a dvd/ book cd etc - I'd buy it. The only minor criticism I have is, it would have been beneficial to know the tuning of the guitar and the scale ( Is it Phrygian dom, I thought maybe something else ). It would be worth stating it at the start of each vid. Otherwise, really, really good -loved it!!
They are wonderful music. Do you have a CDs with these music?
5/8 7/8 9 /8 11/8 10/8 etc.
Basically all odd numbers. (except 10)
Yay thanks bro
Save video to... Playlist Inspiration. DONE.
hey thanks for the video very informative and easy to follow. Ive recently been getting into balkan music do you think you could possible post a video of different ornaments and trill type stuff?
This is just what I've been looking for. Do you have any good resource suggestions for learning complex rhythms?
one question, how do you get to trill so good??! i can't seem to find the trick.... it sounds just like a bouzouki! good job! haha
Adamım çok güzel anlatmış çalmışsın . Sanırım yurtdışında yaşıyorsun İngilizce zaten efsane ! :D tablar belki yardımcı olabilir , sevinirdik eğer öyle bir şeyler de yapabilirsen, kolay gelsin ve lütfen videoların devamı da gelsin ;)
An EXTREMELY difficult concept, moving the thumb on the bas string and playing the melody with two fingers. I tried but surrendered just now.
Great Playing my Friend.There is a lot more dificult rhytmicks variations in a Balkan Gypsy Music.But,you are great,no doubt abouth that..For those who want to learn it :
Leb i Sol Band..
Romanian Ethno music - Kolo
Excellent info. Can't help but think of Mark Sandman from Morphine as I watch the video.
I really appreciate this lesson but Why are you tuned down to 432?
Amazing playing! Great style, great talent! I'd like to learn it :) Do you have the tabs? Do you make bendings on the frets to make these nice Turkish effects on the notes?
Man post more videos!
You ever try this with an electric?
I need the tabs for the melody, its stuck in my head! :)
Are there any names you can give so I can find the tabs online? I really like this kind of music
Is this standard tuning? Are actually turkish yourself?!
E phrygian dominant is love, E phrygian dominant is life.
çıktım Şarköy'ün yoluna sıra sıra zeytinler :D
:D:D:DD:
thanks,can u make them?:P(rhythm 5 only so i can figure upthe pattern cuz i like ur style,and am looking forward to play it correctly:))
Do you have any recommended pieces with notes to learn for these rythms?
i like it .. can you teach us how to play the Arabic scales ( hijaz and nahawand .. est ) on the guitar ? plz :D
What time signature are these in? I understand the rhythms but cant seem to fit them into a time signature.
Can you give a tab of this please
Have you got my ebook? There’s a lot of tabs on this stuff there.
Riff 5 minutes in is insane
CAN you give the tab of this music pleas pleas pleas !! :)
amazing! where can I find tabs for this?
İllede roman olsun-TURKİSH SONG.
Tabs won't help, mate.
how to tune?
Tab pleas
I can't see anything.what's the problem ?
what are the scales you're playing with the rhythm?
Guitar tab please
do you have tabs please?
Have you looked at my book?
omg - *troughs out a perfekt supercool melody* says: yeah whatever... :O o-O - tutorial for the melody pleaseeeee!!!!!
These rhythms are neither Turkish, nor gypsy. They are Bulgarian, and Bulgarian folklore is filled with them. Gypsy music incorporates everything it has contact with, but the origins are important.
I think the title was kinda meant to include their presence in Balkan, Turkish, AND “gypsy”/Romani cultures. In which case, Bulgaria would be included because it is part of the Balkans.
I bought your book. what is the tuning? are you using standard Western guitar tuning, E A G D B E ?
Hi are you playing with your finger nails with out plectrum
Thank You