hello, RunningXpert! regarding the width of the forefoot, please, any possibility so that you can measure the insole's forefoot width of the 10.5 size? i have very wide forefoot so would be good to know. thank you & best regards, Mircea
Good overview! Thanks! I think the new flylite 4 feels like, there's kind of a support in the arch like a pronation support... that's maybe because of the "high" midsole in the middle of the foot? The other question: Do you know, if there will bei an update to the ultraventure pro?
Hey :) I do not know if there will be an update of the ultraventure pro at the moment. I haven't tried the Fli-lyte 4, only 2 and 3., but I would image that the foam added in the mid foot just gives a bit of arch support, and nothing similar to what a medial post does. Lars
@@ronaldosanpablo6761 It should be. It is a neutral running shoe and would behave as that. Just remember to ease into a new shoe and you should be fine.
I'd love to know how that shoe is like a nimbus, with it's massive 40 mm stack, squishy ride, 8 mm offset, and extremely stiff (for a non plated shoe) with a pronounced rocker. the shoe in the video has a much lower stack, a firm ride, half the offset, and is more flexible, with a rocker but not as noticeable because the shoe isn't stiff as a board like the nimbus.
Hey "Could be a little bit compared to the Nimbus from Asics" does not mean exactly like it. In September 2022, when this video was released, Nimbus 24 was the current Nimbus. It was a 36-26 drop shoe, and looking away from the offset, they have roughly the same amount of foam in the shoes. It is all about creating parallels that explain what type of shoe this is. And without a question, the Phantom 2, has the same place in the line-up as a Nimbus. They are both highly cushioned neutral daily trainers, which makes them comparable, at least in my book. Lars
Thanks! And One question: I want running short distances but medium to high pace mainly and a bit of low jumps, im between the Altra escalante 2.5 and the Topo ST.4 , wide toebox and get close to a barefoot shoe is important to me, also durability may be great , which one is better?
Hey. Those two shoes are great, but a little different. You will feel the ST-4 have a lower to ground and maybe more firm feel, compared to the Escalante 2.5. It depends on what you like though. If I'm not entirely wrong I think the Escalante has a knit upper, while the st-4 has a thinner mesh upper. So durability wise I might think the Escalante might have a slight edge on the upper, but I would love to have other poeple comment this, as I do not know for sure. I do not know which midsole is most durable though. I hope this helped. Lars
Hey, The Pursuit is a highly cushioned trail shoe with some technical ability, and it should be the closest to the Speedgoat. The closest thing to a Clifton from Topo might be the new Atmos. www.runningxpert.com/en/topo-athletic-men-s-atmos-m069-gretel.html Topo doesn't really have a soft foam experience like the Hoka does. But the Atmos and maybe the new Specter 2 coming out soon would be comparable. It will probably be lighter and more bouncy though. Hope this helps. Lars
So, Topos TOP cushioned shoe is similar to the cushion in the Nimbus???? The Nimbus 24 is the best Nimbus yet, but, it ain't as good as the Clifton 8, More 3, or Wave Sky 4. Guess I'll pass on Topo shoes.
All of those shoes you mentioned have narrow toe boxes. Very cramped feeling and I don’t even have a wide foot! I’ll pass on those! I used to run in the Clifton wides too. 🤢 Topos are extremely comfy and responsive.
I feel quite the opposite. I've been wearing Gel Numbus since 2016 and I feel they have gotten more cheap over the years. Sure, the comfort up front is really nice with all of the years. But for how long they last and how durable they are - that has definitely gotten worse.
successful presentation, first time heard for Topo
hello, RunningXpert!
regarding the width of the forefoot, please, any possibility so that you can measure the insole's forefoot width of the 10.5 size? i have very wide forefoot so would be good to know.
thank you & best regards,
Mircea
Good overview! Thanks! I think the new flylite 4 feels like, there's kind of a support in the arch like a pronation support... that's maybe because of the "high" midsole in the middle of the foot? The other question: Do you know, if there will bei an update to the ultraventure pro?
Hey :) I do not know if there will be an update of the ultraventure pro at the moment. I haven't tried the Fli-lyte 4, only 2 and 3., but I would image that the foam added in the mid foot just gives a bit of arch support, and nothing similar to what a medial post does.
Lars
@@RunningXpert Is this ok also w/ runners who are running supination?? Thanks!
@@ronaldosanpablo6761 It should be. It is a neutral running shoe and would behave as that. Just remember to ease into a new shoe and you should be fine.
Great review!
I'd love to know how that shoe is like a nimbus, with it's massive 40 mm stack, squishy ride, 8 mm offset, and extremely stiff (for a non plated shoe) with a pronounced rocker. the shoe in the video has a much lower stack, a firm ride, half the offset, and is more flexible, with a rocker but not as noticeable because the shoe isn't stiff as a board like the nimbus.
Hey
"Could be a little bit compared to the Nimbus from Asics" does not mean exactly like it.
In September 2022, when this video was released, Nimbus 24 was the current Nimbus. It was a 36-26 drop shoe, and looking away from the offset, they have roughly the same amount of foam in the shoes.
It is all about creating parallels that explain what type of shoe this is. And without a question, the Phantom 2, has the same place in the line-up as a Nimbus. They are both highly cushioned neutral daily trainers, which makes them comparable, at least in my book.
Lars
@@RunningXpert thank you for the detailed answer.
Which one is comparable to the Saucony 16 and Torin 7?
Any wide 0-drop option?
Thx!
They are all very wide 👍🏼
Thanks! And One question:
I want running short distances but medium to high pace mainly and a bit of low jumps, im between the Altra escalante 2.5 and the Topo ST.4 , wide toebox and get close to a barefoot shoe is important to me, also durability may be great , which one is better?
Hey.
Those two shoes are great, but a little different. You will feel the ST-4 have a lower to ground and maybe more firm feel, compared to the Escalante 2.5. It depends on what you like though.
If I'm not entirely wrong I think the Escalante has a knit upper, while the st-4 has a thinner mesh upper. So durability wise I might think the Escalante might have a slight edge on the upper, but I would love to have other poeple comment this, as I do not know for sure. I do not know which midsole is most durable though.
I hope this helped.
Lars
Which one is most like the Hoka Clifton and the speed goat?
Hey,
The Pursuit is a highly cushioned trail shoe with some technical ability, and it should be the closest to the Speedgoat.
The closest thing to a Clifton from Topo might be the new Atmos.
www.runningxpert.com/en/topo-athletic-men-s-atmos-m069-gretel.html
Topo doesn't really have a soft foam experience like the Hoka does. But the Atmos and maybe the new Specter 2 coming out soon would be comparable. It will probably be lighter and more bouncy though.
Hope this helps.
Lars
@@RunningXpert awesome thank you!
So, Topos TOP cushioned shoe is similar to the cushion in the Nimbus???? The Nimbus 24 is the best Nimbus yet, but, it ain't as good as the Clifton 8, More 3, or Wave Sky 4. Guess I'll pass on Topo shoes.
All of those shoes you mentioned have narrow toe boxes. Very cramped feeling and I don’t even have a wide foot! I’ll pass on those! I used to run in the Clifton wides too. 🤢 Topos are extremely comfy and responsive.
@@kjguitarman The More 3 is NOT narrow. NONE of the shoes I mentioned are narrow.
I feel quite the opposite. I've been wearing Gel Numbus since 2016 and I feel they have gotten more cheap over the years. Sure, the comfort up front is really nice with all of the years. But for how long they last and how durable they are - that has definitely gotten worse.
@@unimike4637 Nimbus outsole USED to last forever, but the 24 is really soft, wearing out fast.