Brother Siraj wasn't there to get educated, he has enough knowledge by the will of Allah, don't get him wrong... He is the to expose the false extremists salfis, pretend to present salafiyah, but they are extremists, Khawarij, rush to judge Muslims blindly and have irjaa in them .. They both planned to discuss
I don’t understand why people who ascribe themselves to ahlus sunnah would even think about being friends with ahlul bid’ah?! Are you not mad and angry that you know this person from ahlul bid’ah had false beliefs that will destroy islam of not refuted?
@@ImaddongaiI'm pretty certain you're the type of ignorant fool that accuses Shaykh Ul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah of also being a 'wahaabi' despite coming centuries before 😅 Fear Allâh and learn your deen akhi.
@15:21 The guy in the green jacket is crazy. (not speaking of Siraj, thats a yellow jacket) First he insults Shamsi with Uncle Donkey. The later he stands next to him. Subhanallah. Shamsi has to watch out for himself u never know who is crazy in the zoo. The guy in the green jacket is eiter majnoon or a munafiq
I watch shamsi a lot I got understand that only in this world only shamsi is in true way rest of the people is Wrong , if Salman make mistake it is ok but if other people make mistake halas he will make them down , how he is giving excuses to Salman so give rest of the people , even I don’t like his speech About Mufti Menk , without single respect he said what he want . We will see till when he will give excuses to Salman .
*_Safaf is not a sect. In Islam, the orthodox and pure way is to call to the worship of Allah alone, not to one's group, political affiliation, or to one's Masjid. This orthodox call to Salaf (ancestry; following the first early Muslim generations) is a methodology, not a specific group with a badge, label, membership, or stamp of approval. Salaf is a methodology, not an elite group._* *_Salafi in Islam means orthodoxy, going back to the fundamental way of following Islam according to the teaching of Prophet Muhammed peace and blessings be upon him, and how his companions understood and practised Islam. Muslims should strive to follow his path._* *_Extreme partisanship in Arabic “hizbiyyah” is a disease among many Muslim groups. Even among the Sects, who of all people should not be this way._* *_Typically labelled as Wahabi (a derogatory term), revivers like Ibn Baz, Uthaymeen and Albani spent most of their life teaching the people to follow authentic Islam, free of any forms of polytheism or innovations in the religion. Very early on, Ibn Baz was one of the first to speak against the dangers of revolutionary ideologies and how such ideas can lead the Muslim youth especially to commit acts of terror and harm innocent people, all in the name of promoting good and eradicating evil._*
To expsoe the false people calling themselves salafi and give a bad image salafiyah, but they are khawarij and have irjaa in them, extremists to the believers...
is siraj there to defend these doubts or trying to seek the correct answer for them? Its not obv for me. And that is not the way of the salaf to show doubts to muslims, and he should refrain from sitting with ahl biddah.
Shamsi did just expos his irgja.. to not do tekfir on the one how insolt Allah azza wa gjel is just a big jaaaahil!! Subhen’Allah my Allah protect use from irgja and missguidens
@@Kazim058 jahil. You dont need iqamah al huja on the one how insult allah?! What huja do you need to give him?? That he is doing a bad deed?? Subhen’Allah, learn something not just talk
@@Kazim058 and he do not do tekfir until he does it hallall with his heart, the action is kufer not just haram. If the action is haram and igjma like zina and then he se it to be hallall then its kufer and not when the action is kufer and need to make it hallall with his heart.. this is the irgja and the murgjia akida
@@Hamuzi1iIf someone insults Allah and he isn’t crazy or it isn’t a slip of the tongue he is a kaffir, and Shamsi says this in his debate with Daniel Haqiqatou. So stop lying.
@omarbelkacem5858 if he's going back to the quran and sunnah then why should he take the good and leave the bad? Why should he lend his ear to the bad? Where did you get this principle from the salaf to take the good and leave the bad? Did they do this?
All right it means we are consistant in our foundations We are proud to follow the path of Muhammad Ibn abd Al Wahhab. And I challenge every one who call us wahabists to bring Muhammad Ibn abd Al Wahhab's Book and to find the errors and the contradictions with Quran ans sunna, especially kitab attawhid because more than 95% of the Book is Allah said and the prophete saws said
@@officialunifiedbullbreedre4035not 25 years. 1400 years, same argument same preserve creed. Umar bin Al-Khattāb (radiyallāhu 'anhu): “Beware of the people of opinions, the enemies of the Sunnah - I present to them the ahādīth of Allāh's Messenger (salallāhu 'alaihi wasallam) to memorise, and they respond with opinion and they were misguided and they misguide others.”
Is there a greater humiliation to the point of defending Hafter the mujrim because of hizbiyyah asabiyyah O Shamsi ..? First laughing hysterically with Faris the snake regarding boycott reaction of ummah,criticizing resistance non-stop and now this... No more husn'ud dhan for you
Stop waffling Mr, brother Siraj said to brother Shamsi as he said we always get rid the worst mafasada, so Siraj said then shirk is the worst mafsada sin which is legislating ...
Shamsi is getting engaged with other muslims …. He doesn’t have own knowledge ok. He needs to keep his mouth shut than getting engaged with other muslims. Why don’t he focus on dawah work?
Shamsi is doing dawah inside and outside the ummah Do you think dawah is just for non Muslim ? There is also dawah for Muslim people. There are many verses about that.
@@omarbelkacem5858In this video brother Siraj is not there to learn from brother Shamsi but is to expose the fake extremists salafis and the people like to give a bad image about the aqeedah of salafiyah
@@omarbelkacem5858yes brother. They should watch the following video Why the imans of sunnah refute innovators more than non Muslims by Shaykh Salih aal-alshaykh
I liked brother shamsi's grin 1:02:23. May Allah bless him and give him and us more knowledge and iman.
may Allah bless you, brother Shamsi . For your patience and understanding on explaining and clarifying to this brother …and sincerity .
Brother Siraj wasn't there to get educated, he has enough knowledge by the will of Allah, don't get him wrong... He is the to expose the false extremists salfis, pretend to present salafiyah, but they are extremists, Khawarij, rush to judge Muslims blindly and have irjaa in them .. They both planned to discuss
@@Muslim-Princelol exposed yourself
Siraj went to school
@@KingdomOfBoxingundercover profiles are crazy
May Allah Bless you brother Shamsi
جزاكم الله خيرا اخ شمسي
A lot of "They said", he's the They 🤣🤣🤣😭
'They' are the people give a bad image the manhaj of salafiyah
He needs to seek knowledge instead of they they they they
I don’t understand why people who ascribe themselves to ahlus sunnah would even think about being friends with ahlul bid’ah?! Are you not mad and angry that you know this person from ahlul bid’ah had false beliefs that will destroy islam of not refuted?
There you go, the true face of Wahabism.
@@Imaddongai shamshi cited quran and sunnah whilst you did neither shame on you
@@Imaddongaiahlul bid'ah
Correct brother.
@@ImaddongaiI'm pretty certain you're the type of ignorant fool that accuses Shaykh Ul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah of also being a 'wahaabi' despite coming centuries before 😅
Fear Allâh and learn your deen akhi.
@15:21 The guy in the green jacket is crazy. (not speaking of Siraj, thats a yellow jacket) First he insults Shamsi with Uncle Donkey. The later he stands next to him.
Subhanallah. Shamsi has to watch out for himself u never know who is crazy in the zoo.
The guy in the green jacket is eiter majnoon or a munafiq
shamsi ❤❤❤❤
I thought Shamsi was taking a break from the park?
It would be good if you watched the video. You will see why he came this week.
Shamsi I've been waiting for us to debate for so long... There are a lot of 🐔🐔 but you might be different... Let's debate and make it happen...??
He made a promise to Siraj that he would speak to him in the park and he probably forgot about it when he announced that he would take a break
43:43
Siraj...who he speaking to ..ask him to meet this Sunday..Shamsi made a promise...Nice disingenuous try
I watch shamsi a lot I got understand that only in this world only shamsi is in true way rest of the people is Wrong , if Salman make mistake it is ok but if other people make mistake halas he will make them down , how he is giving excuses to Salman so give rest of the people , even I don’t like his speech About Mufti Menk , without single respect he said what he want . We will see till when he will give excuses to Salman .
Have siraj lost his voice 😅
*_Safaf is not a sect. In Islam, the orthodox and pure way is to call to the worship of Allah alone, not to one's group, political affiliation, or to one's Masjid. This orthodox call to Salaf (ancestry; following the first early Muslim generations) is a methodology, not a specific group with a badge, label, membership, or stamp of approval. Salaf is a methodology, not an elite group._*
*_Salafi in Islam means orthodoxy, going back to the fundamental way of following Islam according to the teaching of Prophet Muhammed peace and blessings be upon him, and how his companions understood and practised Islam. Muslims should strive to follow his path._*
*_Extreme partisanship in Arabic “hizbiyyah” is a disease among many Muslim groups. Even among the Sects, who of all people should not be this way._*
*_Typically labelled as Wahabi (a derogatory term), revivers like Ibn Baz, Uthaymeen and Albani spent most of their life teaching the people to follow authentic Islam, free of any forms of polytheism or innovations in the religion. Very early on, Ibn Baz was one of the first to speak against the dangers of revolutionary ideologies and how such ideas can lead the Muslim youth especially to commit acts of terror and harm innocent people, all in the name of promoting good and eradicating evil._*
What was siraj point?
To expsoe the false people calling themselves salafi and give a bad image salafiyah, but they are khawarij and have irjaa in them, extremists to the believers...
@@Muslim-Princewell done u exposed ur self u are a khawarij n a extremist trying to hide under the salafi
To waffle with no knowledge
is siraj there to defend these doubts or trying to seek the correct answer for them? Its not obv for me.
And that is not the way of the salaf to show doubts to muslims, and he should refrain from sitting with ahl biddah.
Hes a agent or a kawarij sent to the park to spread fitna
U see they are deleting comments to protect this siraj. Swear something fishy about him n even this channel
54:00
Shamsi did just expos his irgja.. to not do tekfir on the one how insolt Allah azza wa gjel is just a big jaaaahil!! Subhen’Allah my Allah protect use from irgja and missguidens
Liar. He told he does hukm 'aam takfir. Not invidual without iqamah al hujjah
@@Kazim058 jahil. You dont need iqamah al huja on the one how insult allah?! What huja do you need to give him?? That he is doing a bad deed?? Subhen’Allah, learn something not just talk
@@Kazim058 and he do not do tekfir until he does it hallall with his heart, the action is kufer not just haram. If the action is haram and igjma like zina and then he se it to be hallall then its kufer and not when the action is kufer and need to make it hallall with his heart.. this is the irgja and the murgjia akida
@@Hamuzi1iIf someone insults Allah and he isn’t crazy or it isn’t a slip of the tongue he is a kaffir, and Shamsi says this in his debate with Daniel Haqiqatou. So stop lying.
@@denohart4929 haha he says we need yo check if he is insane and other things before we do takfir..
This whole conversation was a waste of time.
Syamsi is not prophet so take the good and throw away the bad.... Halas...
Yes
Shamsi is not a prophete but he brings what the prophete saws. His arguments are very strong.
How does someone know how to take the good and leave the bad if they lack knowledge? They'd think the bad is actually good!
@@abufuturetrunks5630
He goes back to the Books.
Quran and its tafasir.
Books of hadith (Al Bukhari, Muslim, ... )
@omarbelkacem5858 if he's going back to the quran and sunnah then why should he take the good and leave the bad? Why should he lend his ear to the bad? Where did you get this principle from the salaf to take the good and leave the bad? Did they do this?
Woy relax bro this just Dunya... Kullu rain wa mas Ulun arraiyatihi... Relax bro relax...
25 years later and you “Wahabist” are on the same arguments you use to have in the park back then 😂
All right it means we are consistant in our foundations
We are proud to follow the path of Muhammad Ibn abd Al Wahhab. And I challenge every one who call us wahabists to bring Muhammad Ibn abd Al Wahhab's Book and to find the errors and the contradictions with Quran ans sunna, especially kitab attawhid because more than 95% of the Book is Allah said and the prophete saws said
@@omarbelkacem5858 the arrogance hasn’t changed either since the days of Mr Baker at Brixton 🤣 🤣🤣
@@officialunifiedbullbreedre4035not 25 years. 1400 years, same argument same preserve creed.
Umar bin Al-Khattāb (radiyallāhu 'anhu): “Beware of the people of opinions, the enemies of the Sunnah - I present to them the ahādīth of Allāh's Messenger (salallāhu 'alaihi wasallam) to memorise, and they respond with opinion and they were misguided and they misguide others.”
@@southernrealist5789well said akhi
keep crying tubby@@officialunifiedbullbreedre4035
Is there a greater humiliation to the point of defending Hafter the mujrim because of hizbiyyah asabiyyah O Shamsi ..? First laughing hysterically with Faris the snake regarding boycott reaction of ummah,criticizing resistance non-stop and now this... No more husn'ud dhan for you
Siraj is not honest.. clear cut .. he is not listening .. and put words in shamsi that shamsi never said
Stop waffling Mr, brother Siraj said to brother Shamsi as he said we always get rid the worst mafasada, so Siraj said then shirk is the worst mafsada sin which is legislating ...
@@Muslim-Princelol caught you doing taqiya. Why you Pretending to be someone else siraj? I knew there was something fishy about u.
Undercover profiles are crazy
Looks like the backlash shamsi received has made him go back on his words
Which words?
Shamsi is getting engaged with other muslims …. He doesn’t have own knowledge ok. He needs to keep his mouth shut than getting engaged with other muslims. Why don’t he focus on dawah work?
Shamsi is doing dawah inside and outside the ummah
Do you think dawah is just for non Muslim ?
There is also dawah for Muslim people. There are many verses about that.
@@omarbelkacem5858In this video brother Siraj is not there to learn from brother Shamsi but is to expose the fake extremists salafis and the people like to give a bad image about the aqeedah of salafiyah
@@omarbelkacem5858yes brother. They should watch the following video
Why the imans of sunnah refute innovators more than non Muslims by Shaykh Salih aal-alshaykh
What are you doing besides posting selfies of your little soyboy self??
All these characters would be great use to extremists.. they will happily self explode 😂