As for Necron's appearance, it's essentially an eidolon. The crystals have the ability to take the memories and emotions of people and fashion them into actually creatures. As the fear of death is perhaps one of the most common emotions conscious living beings face and many never resolve that fear, it makes sense the crystal would fashion a being that essentially that emotion brought to life. Also why he states he is eternal, the fear of death will never go away.
When the Iifa tree was "killed", Garland mentioned that the party only saw the front of it, and that the cycle of souls had not yet been released. The party dies to Kuja's ultima and encounter the other side of the Iifa tree, the one preventing souls from returning to Gaia: Necron.
@@budakbaongsiahIt sounds so logical to people like us. Remember there is a gaming world today where story and meaning, means nothing to the groups making the stories come to life. ... Enter.... Zero world...
Awesome, in the begging you can hear the anguished wails of those who've died sensless deaths and are caught in an eternal twisting limbo, weeping that they are consigned forever to oblivion!! I like this!
He Wants to destroy the world ( ff 1,2,3,4,5,7,8) And he comes out of, well "nowhere" (ff 3) He is not the main villian (ff 3,4) Wants to bring the universe to the void ( ff 3, 5 ) ... Final Fantasy 9 is a Nostalgic piece of ART :)
@ShaneC1991 Actually, Necron is not supposed to be, but to represent something. FFIX deals with death. About the relation you come to have with the idea of death during your life and how you come to accept it by finding a way of living. Thus, the final battle is the battle that inevitably come from such a reflexion. Necron is Death, and you fight it to stay alive.
I thought Necron was described as one of the original creators who helped piece together life. Then he notices that everyone just keeps killing each other, finding reasons to kill those they don't know, and then one quite literally pulls the largest fuckup ever and destroys on of the Crystals. He basically tries to Etch-a-Sketch reality, yet then after toying with the party for a bit he realizes that folk -really- still want to live and allows them for the time being.
Now THAT is epic! I love how it turns out scary first, then it makes your heart jump! It feels like you are ready to face the ultimate final battle with this epic music.=3
Necron was the core mechanism of the Iifa Tree. The physical tree distributing mist was its material half, but remember that its purpose was to stop Gaia's cycle of souls. The cycle was not restored when the physical Iifa Tree was "killed," yet after Necron's defeat the entire tree went into violent spasms and died. Ultima put the party into a near-death state, where their souls encountered the ethereal half of Iifa. Defeating it stopped Terra's assimilation of Gaia and freed the souls.
Necron is not personified "nonexistence", he is some kind of a god. He said existence was his little project and after Kuja messed up he thought that all life thinks like him, so it is better to end their suffering. He does not try to force absolut nonexistence like CoD, rather than doing humans a favour. After Zidane and the other fight him to show that they cling on life, he isn't beaten, he just says: "kk, go on living kiddos. But be warned, I'm watching you."
I always interpreted it as Necron was the God of Non-space. Once the Crystal of Origins was destroyed by Kuja's final Ultima, it was called forth to erase all existance.
this is song and Vamo' Alla Flamenco are my favorite songs out of all the songs Black Mages produced I can't stop hitting the play button everytime i'm listening to those two songs. =D
Necron is Death. FFIX's main theme is the fear of death. At the end of the game, Kuja kills the entire party, but, as Zidane says, they can't die, not after everything they went through together. So they lead the ultimate fight : the fight to live, the fight versus Death itself.
Very good explanation, but although first time i played FF9 in grade 8 (bare in mind i didn't even play FF3 at that point), i had no strategy guide or no internet at the time, necron was a pretty random last boss if you wernt aware you had to fight him, like you spend the whole game chasing kuja and finally kick his ass in the crystal world then all of a sudden your on the hill of despair with necron, took me forever to even create my own conspiracy on were he even came from.
Thanks for the comment, I never thought of it that way even when I beat FF3 on my DS multiple times. Makes perfect sense when presented that way, I just wish they had made it a little clearer so fans wouldn't have to spend years wondering. Honestly, when looked at from that perspective the final fight, and the story as a whole, are so much more awesome. Damn.
Not really in FFIV you do know about Zeromus, Zemus *IS* Zeromus he is the true form of Zemus and your told that by Fusoya long before you go to the Lunar Subterranean. Necron was a lil un expected but then again It wasn't......they did speak of something that guards the Crystal and we all knew that wasn't Kuja since he was trying to destroy it. Also if Kuja was the last boss I would be pissed since he was extremely easy x.x
I'm pretty sure Necron isn't Soulcage. He's another being altogether. He makes that abundantly clear when he states he is the darkness of eternity, and by the fact that he is summoned by Kuja's actions, and general tomfoolery with the crystal. Great boss theme though either way.
@FandeJay Actually.. Kuja didn't kill them.. when he went to destroy the crystal, he summoned Necron, who was created to end life when it became proved pointless. (When living creatures would seek to end life itself and take it too far) Infact, Necron isn't defeated by Zidane. From what I've heard, he's defeated by Kuja after he teleports Zidane and them out of the area. it's also assumable that this has happened before from his lines.
@McDonaldWilliamT For the Record, Necron was the Spirit world side of the iafa tree, as mentioned by Garland. Hence why Kuja had to kill you for you to fight him. Its also the reason why the tree spazzes out after you fight him, and why the crew can actually rest easy knowing that the transfer of souls has been at least momentarily, stopped.
Well, Necron is many things. First and foremost, his sudden appearance and stated purpose are homages to the Cloud of Darkness from FF 3. However, he also represents the fight against our mortality, which is a big theme in the game. Both Vivi and Kuja learn they have limited life spans. Vivi spends his short life fighting to prevent the destruction of Gaia, whilst Kuja decides to end everything.
I think people miss that Vivi is not only the true main character of FF9, but that because he's also the narrator that he tries to paint Zidane (and everyone else, but mostly Zidane since he kinda idolized him as a big brother figure) as the main character.
Well, more specifically, he's the mechanism of the Iifa Tree that blocks the souls of Gaia's dead from returning to the crystal and infusing Gaia's crystal with Terra's souls. And it's the Soul Cage who ejects these souls that Necron blocks as Mist.
@krat0s9001 That's pretty much what I just said. >.> "when he went to destroy the crystal, he summoned Necron, who was created to end life when it became proved pointless"
He did. That's what his aim was by the end of the game (I mean he was pretty damn marvellous how he always had a plan B for his plan B). His last Ultima killed the party and destroyed the Crystal. This called forth Necron, who is a kind of eraser - its role is to destroy existance once the crystal is shattered. This also why it's name and appearance are so similar Exdeath's minion, Necrophobe, in FF5. FF9 references the previous games alot this way.
@ShaneC1991 Well, that's the role of one final boss... But it's in Final Fantasy III. It's called the Cloud of Darkness and it's been called forth to erase the creation since the balance of the worlds (light and darknesss) had been disrupted, it's its duty to return everything to nothingness. But Necron doesn't remind me exactly of the Kurayaminokumo... Maybe they do share their purpose, but it's pure conjecture. After all, Square is known for it's lack of imagination sometimes (more often now).
My theory what Necron is is that Necron is like the end, a creature who will awake then Gaia is in complete chaos to make end of it by destroying Gaia. The crystals act like with Exdeath as if all four are destroyed, Necron wakes up and knows it's time to bring Gaia to it's end.
I've recently taken Necron's sudden emergence to be "God is pissed!" He appeared as a result of Kuja's misdeeds, although I wish there was more foreshadowing to it. As far as his design, he's similar to Necrophobe in FFV.
@Anathema1984 Not really "out of nowhere." As FF9 was a throwback to games 1-8, the concept of Necron was analogous to the Cloud of Darkness from FF3. I realized Square didn't bother explaining Necron because the concept of it was the same as in FF3. The point being, that Kuja fucked up the balance of light and dark (dark being mist, I guess) so much that "nothingness" (personified as Necron) tried to bring the world back to the "void"
@FromAshesReborn ...whao! That would be intriguing (but nonetheless interesting!). That would mean Necron is actually an abstraction brought upon by the collective subconscious.
true, but the greatest piece of music can only be truely defined by the person listening to it, so it's different for every person :) but I guess that still means my first comment was wrong lol
@Shurryy because in the game, final fantasy 9.. after fighting Kuja, you arrive in a location where the end of the world is under way. the moans and cries are the souls of every living creature crying out in despair that they will soon perish. thats when you fight the boss, and end that fate.
@krat0s9001 Yeah it is , isnt it. I did some research and it was Alexander who was sealed by the crystals. Necron litteraly just showed up out of nowhere.
Well if I'm being honest here, I just think he's a boss that Square hastily threw in to make an easy game slightly more challenging. I toss that theory out there, mainly because I like the idea of Necron/CoD being a manifestation of the struggle of light vs. darkness that is a big theme in both games. He touches on this when he talks how life (light) only ends in/ seeks death (darkness). And do I think Square is that inept? Absolutely.
Interesting interpretation. I don't remember Necron saying anything like the end of your comment, though. AFAIK Necron was just some being that Kuja conjured by fucking with the crystal that threatened to bring the world back to nonexistence. I dunno, iit's been a few years
@SmashBrutha08 Very interesting, indeed. Most notably the case of Vivi and Zidane who were both supposed to wreak chaos and destruction and end up saving the world. In fact, Zidane was the one, in the entire game, who urged the other characters to find their own callings.
@Dracula9AntiChapel I always figured that Destroying the crystal wouldn't necessarily cause everything to cease to exist so much as it summons Necron to end it all, also "Kuja was GOING to destroy the Crystal" could easily have been improperly translated from Japanese, unless Kuja did some kind of silly magic trick to make the crystal disappear then it was clearly destroyed. Honestly though this part of the game is difficult to understand, Square probably just left it up to our imagination.
Necron was more the true manefestation of the lifa tree, it knew of garland, and wished to rebel from its programmed task to reap the souls of gaia and replace them with terra's own, instead choosing to just destroy all life, after watching the chaotic nature of the population on Gaia and kuja's actions. theres supporting evidence through the conversations Garland, Kuja and the others have at different points in the game. Plus the soulcage aspect of the lifa tree confirms it. what a dick though
Ok, away from the Necron is Death (it is) stuff, the things that bugged me about this song is that the transition from prologue (screaming voices) to the main peice happens with an almost audible "clunk", like a someone just stuck in a totally different song. That and the bloody electric keyboard just loves to try and smother everything, doesn't it?
Soulcage (I believe). That's definitely one perspective, one that I'm inclined to agree with. But that still doesn't answer exactly what he is and why he wants to bring the world back to the void. Of course that's all my opinion, but I've played FF9 far too many times and what the CoD said in FF3 when I played a few months ago was eerily similar. Also, it makes the ending of probably my favorite game ever a lot better, instead of just having some Final Boss randomly thrown in there.
Necron was also an reference to the androids (and alikes) from the 2 previous games, I guess. FF9 brought back the "fantasy" from the games from 1 to 6, and Necron was the connection with the previous ones. Some kind of Yin Yang
Re: the fight for existence... Necron is the embodiment of nonexistence, so there you go, I guess he does fit a major theme of the game. 4. He's really, as I've said, nonexistence, hence the similarity to the CoD. He's not 'death.' BTW, in FF, light vs. dark isn't "GO LIGHT!" it's about the balance of light and dark, life and death. It's incidentally why (IMO) characters in FF often die at the ending.
@FandeJay I always saw FFIX being about finding your purpose in life. What our society tells us to do with our lives vs. what we want to devote our existence too. Vivi's programmed to be a weapon of destruction, but he tries to understand mortality. Steiner and Beatrix discover they're soldiers for a corrupt nation, and turn against their duty to do what's right. Garnet escapes from her throne to experience living and Zidane resists his destiny as a reaper of death.
@MeingroessterFan It's possible that the terms choosen didn't really translate well anyways mate, in the english text it speaks of him as basically being the end of the universe. Regardless, I couldn't confirm that either way simply because I only know about five phrases in German.
1) He's easy, but only if you know how to fight him. I used to not have things like antibody/jelly, so each Grand Cross would pretty much rape me. 2) Disagreed, FF3 was pretty hard, and I'm at a point in IV where I keep losing so I've quit for a few months. I guess I just have to grind, but damn it. 3) I dunno, I always imagined mist making everything dark to be a fairly obvious indicator of a light vs. dark battle. It's a stretch, though.
@TheJenisis09 Tell me about it; My neighbor tried it the other day and I was like "Say wha?" Then next thing I know it did that whole swirly-screen thing and I was in a battle with him. Luckily I drew some Ultima from the neighborhood cat so it was an easy win... But yeah: Hate it when someone wants to erase all existence. >_>
“This is a tragedy, you know?” -Kuja
“Then I’m gonna rewrite the script!” -Zidane
As for Necron's appearance, it's essentially an eidolon. The crystals have the ability to take the memories and emotions of people and fashion them into actually creatures. As the fear of death is perhaps one of the most common emotions conscious living beings face and many never resolve that fear, it makes sense the crystal would fashion a being that essentially that emotion brought to life. Also why he states he is eternal, the fear of death will never go away.
I love the thought of Uematsu-san just going absolutely apeshit ticklin' the ivories
Cringe
@@Que5oFre5co Have a coke and a smile bitch :D
@@Que5oFre5conever played an instrument in your life, have you? Good to know
No one else going to comment on how ridiculously epic this is?.....Just me then?.......EPIC!!!!!! My next mission is to be able to play this on bass.
It's hella epic 💀
I means it's Black Mages, nothing but epicness
Oh I am, this is fan-freaking-tastic.
When the Iifa tree was "killed", Garland mentioned that the party only saw the front of it, and that the cycle of souls had not yet been released. The party dies to Kuja's ultima and encounter the other side of the Iifa tree, the one preventing souls from returning to Gaia: Necron.
You can tell they played the game before they performed this. The keyboard supporting the guitar is so spot on.
It helps when you have a musical God like nobuo uematsu in your band.
the band was Square Enix (or former one in case of Mr. Uematsu) employees having fun
@@budakbaongsiahIt sounds so logical to people like us. Remember there is a gaming world today where story and meaning, means nothing to the groups making the stories come to life.
... Enter.... Zero world...
Awesome, in the begging you can hear the anguished wails of those who've died sensless deaths and are caught in an eternal twisting limbo, weeping that they are consigned forever to oblivion!!
I like this!
If I had to save the world, this is the song I'd want playing in the background.
Amano's vision of Necron is creepy as hell. I love it.
He Wants to destroy the world ( ff 1,2,3,4,5,7,8) And he comes out of, well "nowhere" (ff 3) He is not the main villian (ff 3,4) Wants to bring the universe to the void ( ff 3, 5 ) ... Final Fantasy 9 is a Nostalgic piece of ART :)
@ShaneC1991 Actually, Necron is not supposed to be, but to represent something.
FFIX deals with death. About the relation you come to have with the idea of death during your life and how you come to accept it by finding a way of living. Thus, the final battle is the battle that inevitably come from such a reflexion.
Necron is Death, and you fight it to stay alive.
I thought Necron was described as one of the original creators who helped piece together life.
Then he notices that everyone just keeps killing each other, finding reasons to kill those they don't know, and then one quite literally pulls the largest fuckup ever and destroys on of the Crystals.
He basically tries to Etch-a-Sketch reality, yet then after toying with the party for a bit he realizes that folk -really- still want to live and allows them for the time being.
I also thought that!
Now THAT is epic! I love how it turns out scary first, then it makes your heart jump! It feels like you are ready to face the ultimate final battle with this epic music.=3
That outro solo is the best I've ever heard.
Necron was the core mechanism of the Iifa Tree. The physical tree distributing mist was its material half, but remember that its purpose was to stop Gaia's cycle of souls. The cycle was not restored when the physical Iifa Tree was "killed," yet after Necron's defeat the entire tree went into violent spasms and died. Ultima put the party into a near-death state, where their souls encountered the ethereal half of Iifa. Defeating it stopped Terra's assimilation of Gaia and freed the souls.
Damn, the bassguitar in this song is just.. WOW!
Necron is not personified "nonexistence", he is some kind of a god.
He said existence was his little project and after Kuja messed up he thought that all life thinks like him, so it is better to end their suffering. He does not try to force absolut nonexistence like CoD, rather than doing humans a favour.
After Zidane and the other fight him to show that they cling on life, he isn't beaten, he just says: "kk, go on living kiddos. But be warned, I'm watching you."
I always interpreted it as Necron was the God of Non-space. Once the Crystal of Origins was destroyed by Kuja's final Ultima, it was called forth to erase all existance.
2022. Remake on the way. Black mages I hope you guys gotten the respect and exposure you deserve.
Say what you will about FF villains, but they've got the best goddamn music.
Man, this really kicks in at 1:20, huh? Awesome:D
this is song and Vamo' Alla Flamenco are my favorite songs out of all the songs Black Mages produced I can't stop hitting the play button everytime i'm listening to those two songs. =D
Necron is Death.
FFIX's main theme is the fear of death. At the end of the game, Kuja kills the entire party, but, as Zidane says, they can't die, not after everything they went through together. So they lead the ultimate fight : the fight to live, the fight versus Death itself.
Very good explanation, but although first time i played FF9 in grade 8 (bare in mind i didn't even play FF3 at that point), i had no strategy guide or no internet at the time, necron was a pretty random last boss if you wernt aware you had to fight him, like you spend the whole game chasing kuja and finally kick his ass in the crystal world then all of a sudden your on the hill of despair with necron, took me forever to even create my own conspiracy on were he even came from.
3:33 those solos are sick. There's more at the end too.
Necron is an incarnation of the void like Cloud of Darkness (FF3), Zeromus (FF4) and Neo-Exdeath (FF5).
this better be in Dawntrail!
not gonna be, SE doesn't do prog rock anymore
1:20 Holy shit that transition
Wow!!! That is the most awesome Final Fantasy IX artwork i've ever seen!
Thanks for the comment, I never thought of it that way even when I beat FF3 on my DS multiple times. Makes perfect sense when presented that way, I just wish they had made it a little clearer so fans wouldn't have to spend years wondering. Honestly, when looked at from that perspective the final fight, and the story as a whole, are so much more awesome. Damn.
Not really in FFIV you do know about Zeromus, Zemus *IS* Zeromus he is the true form of Zemus and your told that by Fusoya long before you go to the Lunar Subterranean.
Necron was a lil un expected but then again It wasn't......they did speak of something that guards the Crystal and we all knew that wasn't Kuja since he was trying to destroy it.
Also if Kuja was the last boss I would be pissed since he was extremely easy x.x
Indeed. Amano's a brilliant artist.
wtf this version slaps haaaaaard
I love this whole-ass song, but I tend to skip to this part. Hope this helps others. 1:12
I'm pretty sure Necron isn't Soulcage. He's another being altogether. He makes that abundantly clear when he states he is the darkness of eternity, and by the fact that he is summoned by Kuja's actions, and general tomfoolery with the crystal. Great boss theme though either way.
I love how everyone is wrong about who necron is :)
Necron is Kuja's fear of death manifested.
@Bundyrumowns How much more challenging do you need then someone who brings your entire team to one hp with Ultima?
It is said that Necron is the Lifa Tree, just like Exdeath is a Tree born on the Great Forest of Moore, before it became an Evil Warlock...
Amano Necron is... Frightening... But I love this Black Mages remix the best next to NeoExdeath and Clash on the Big Bridge.
maybe i'm a lion will always be my favourite :D, original and the black mages version are both brilliant
It's Ex death, he's all through FFIX, he's the Lifa tree, the same as he was in V, he even has the same moves and same speech.
@FandeJay Actually.. Kuja didn't kill them.. when he went to destroy the crystal, he summoned Necron, who was created to end life when it became proved pointless. (When living creatures would seek to end life itself and take it too far) Infact, Necron isn't defeated by Zidane. From what I've heard, he's defeated by Kuja after he teleports Zidane and them out of the area. it's also assumable that this has happened before from his lines.
I think the picture there is actually Chaos from Final Fantasy Dissidia...
Not to mention better than what they went with. He looks like Ganondorf's love child with C'thulu.
Greatest. Floating head. Ever.
@McDonaldWilliamT
For the Record, Necron was the Spirit world side of the iafa tree, as mentioned by Garland. Hence why Kuja had to kill you for you to fight him. Its also the reason why the tree spazzes out after you fight him, and why the crew can actually rest easy knowing that the transfer of souls has been at least momentarily, stopped.
man i lovin the bass line for this!!
1:21
Sick
3:57 that has no buisness being as Fire as that was
name of this song is
The Black Mages III: Darkness and Starlight
Well, Necron is many things. First and foremost, his sudden appearance and stated purpose are homages to the Cloud of Darkness from FF 3. However, he also represents the fight against our mortality, which is a big theme in the game. Both Vivi and Kuja learn they have limited life spans. Vivi spends his short life fighting to prevent the destruction of Gaia, whilst Kuja decides to end everything.
I think people miss that Vivi is not only the true main character of FF9, but that because he's also the narrator that he tries to paint Zidane (and everyone else, but mostly Zidane since he kinda idolized him as a big brother figure) as the main character.
Well, more specifically, he's the mechanism of the Iifa Tree that blocks the souls of Gaia's dead from returning to the crystal and infusing Gaia's crystal with Terra's souls. And it's the Soul Cage who ejects these souls that Necron blocks as Mist.
Necron was an entity awakened by Kuja's, fear, hatred, and despair.
@krat0s9001 That's pretty much what I just said. >.> "when he went to destroy the crystal, he summoned Necron, who was created to end life when it became proved pointless"
He did. That's what his aim was by the end of the game (I mean he was pretty damn marvellous how he always had a plan B for his plan B). His last Ultima killed the party and destroyed the Crystal. This called forth Necron, who is a kind of eraser - its role is to destroy existance once the crystal is shattered. This also why it's name and appearance are so similar Exdeath's minion, Necrophobe, in FF5. FF9 references the previous games alot this way.
@ShaneC1991 finally someone explains it. ive been wondering where he came from for a while.
@ShaneC1991 Well, that's the role of one final boss... But it's in Final Fantasy III. It's called the Cloud of Darkness and it's been called forth to erase the creation since the balance of the worlds (light and darknesss) had been disrupted, it's its duty to return everything to nothingness. But Necron doesn't remind me exactly of the Kurayaminokumo... Maybe they do share their purpose, but it's pure conjecture. After all, Square is known for it's lack of imagination sometimes (more often now).
what i heard was that they died and revived in the lifa cycle to fight necron, then kuja resurected them
thank you i have been trying to get that point across for a wile
Kuja may not be a typical bad guy, but he's still awesome.
@PsycholicMan Try the rehash of FFIV for the DS, it's brutally difficult at times compared the other versions.
@FandeJay
And let's not forget Kuja, whose entire motivation as a villain is to overcome his predetermined destiny.
@snipershote Why is Necron a face instead of that glowing, angelic body (which ironically didn't have a face), for that matter?
'Phew that was challenging im glad thats all over with, im just gunna sit back and enj-' AND SUDDENLY NECRON APPEARS
My theory what Necron is is that Necron is like the end, a creature who will awake then Gaia is in complete chaos to make end of it by destroying Gaia. The crystals act like with Exdeath as if all four are destroyed, Necron wakes up and knows it's time to bring Gaia to it's end.
I've recently taken Necron's sudden emergence to be "God is pissed!" He appeared as a result of Kuja's misdeeds, although I wish there was more foreshadowing to it.
As far as his design, he's similar to Necrophobe in FFV.
@Anathema1984
Not really "out of nowhere." As FF9 was a throwback to games 1-8, the concept of Necron was analogous to the Cloud of Darkness from FF3. I realized Square didn't bother explaining Necron because the concept of it was the same as in FF3.
The point being, that Kuja fucked up the balance of light and dark (dark being mist, I guess) so much that "nothingness" (personified as Necron) tried to bring the world back to the "void"
I love this theme!
Isn't Necron that guy that grew inside the Lifa Tree, who says he's gonna come back...
@FromAshesReborn ...whao! That would be intriguing (but nonetheless interesting!).
That would mean Necron is actually an abstraction brought upon by the collective subconscious.
The best villains are the one you hate the most. It gives you a reason to wanna kick there ass.
Dopamine in sound form.
true, but the greatest piece of music can only be truely defined by the person listening to it, so it's different for every person :)
but I guess that still means my first comment was wrong lol
@Shurryy because in the game, final fantasy 9.. after fighting Kuja, you arrive in a location where the end of the world is under way. the moans and cries are the souls of every living creature crying out in despair that they will soon perish. thats when you fight the boss, and end that fate.
@krat0s9001 Yeah it is , isnt it. I did some research and it was Alexander who was sealed by the crystals.
Necron litteraly just showed up out of nowhere.
@KurtDonaldCobain1994 yea he was a girl in the original concept. They changed their mind when they actually started making the game.
Well if I'm being honest here, I just think he's a boss that Square hastily threw in to make an easy game slightly more challenging.
I toss that theory out there, mainly because I like the idea of Necron/CoD being a manifestation of the struggle of light vs. darkness that is a big theme in both games. He touches on this when he talks how life (light) only ends in/ seeks death (darkness).
And do I think Square is that inept? Absolutely.
Interesting interpretation. I don't remember Necron saying anything like the end of your comment, though. AFAIK Necron was just some being that Kuja conjured by fucking with the crystal that threatened to bring the world back to nonexistence. I dunno, iit's been a few years
@Thisbaconisalive which is one way to look at death - because when you are dead, nothing exists for you anymore. It's very philosophical
@SmashBrutha08 Very interesting, indeed. Most notably the case of Vivi and Zidane who were both supposed to wreak chaos and destruction and end up saving the world. In fact, Zidane was the one, in the entire game, who urged the other characters to find their own callings.
Definitely not one of my fav FF villains. But I must admit he has a kick ass theme that makes you understand that this is the final boss.
Necron = Iifa Tree
@Dracula9AntiChapel I always figured that Destroying the crystal wouldn't necessarily cause everything to cease to exist so much as it summons Necron to end it all, also "Kuja was GOING to destroy the Crystal" could easily have been improperly translated from Japanese, unless Kuja did some kind of silly magic trick to make the crystal disappear then it was clearly destroyed. Honestly though this part of the game is difficult to understand, Square probably just left it up to our imagination.
Sounds kinda awesome. Very awesome. Also, it would have been much better if they went with this version of Necron. I mean, he's death himself.
He's the Chuckie doll that haunts when he wants...
I have copies of these albums
Necron was more the true manefestation of the lifa tree, it knew of garland, and wished to rebel from its programmed task to reap the souls of gaia and replace them with terra's own, instead choosing to just destroy all life, after watching the chaotic nature of the population on Gaia and kuja's actions. theres supporting evidence through the conversations Garland, Kuja and the others have at different points in the game. Plus the soulcage aspect of the lifa tree confirms it. what a dick though
based on what i hear, necron is:
a) soulcage
b)kuja's fear of death
c) who knows?
i agree with goblarf from a coupla months ago.
@Shurryy It was a rescue mission, but something held me up! You see there is something about Kuja nobody knew. . . .
Ok, away from the Necron is Death (it is) stuff, the things that bugged me about this song is that the transition from prologue (screaming voices) to the main peice happens with an almost audible "clunk", like a someone just stuck in a totally different song. That and the bloody electric keyboard just loves to try and smother everything, doesn't it?
Soulcage (I believe). That's definitely one perspective, one that I'm inclined to agree with.
But that still doesn't answer exactly what he is and why he wants to bring the world back to the void.
Of course that's all my opinion, but I've played FF9 far too many times and what the CoD said in FF3 when I played a few months ago was eerily similar. Also, it makes the ending of probably my favorite game ever a lot better, instead of just having some Final Boss randomly thrown in there.
actually...nobuo has stated that he considers one winged angel to be his greatest piece, but that doesnt mean the others aren't awesome too :)
Necron was also an reference to the androids (and alikes) from the 2 previous games, I guess.
FF9 brought back the "fantasy" from the games from 1 to 6, and Necron was the connection with the previous ones.
Some kind of Yin Yang
Re: the fight for existence... Necron is the embodiment of nonexistence, so there you go, I guess he does fit a major theme of the game.
4. He's really, as I've said, nonexistence, hence the similarity to the CoD. He's not 'death.'
BTW, in FF, light vs. dark isn't "GO LIGHT!" it's about the balance of light and dark, life and death. It's incidentally why (IMO) characters in FF often die at the ending.
@Bundyrumowns Have you ever heard that "use" is not the same as "youse"?
that face looks like ganon
@FandeJay
I always saw FFIX being about finding your purpose in life. What our society tells us to do with our lives vs. what we want to devote our existence too. Vivi's programmed to be a weapon of destruction, but he tries to understand mortality. Steiner and Beatrix discover they're soldiers for a corrupt nation, and turn against their duty to do what's right. Garnet escapes from her throne to experience living and Zidane resists his destiny as a reaper of death.
@MeingroessterFan It's possible that the terms choosen didn't really translate well anyways mate, in the english text it speaks of him as basically being the end of the universe. Regardless, I couldn't confirm that either way simply because I only know about five phrases in German.
1) He's easy, but only if you know how to fight him. I used to not have things like antibody/jelly, so each Grand Cross would pretty much rape me.
2) Disagreed, FF3 was pretty hard, and I'm at a point in IV where I keep losing so I've quit for a few months. I guess I just have to grind, but damn it.
3) I dunno, I always imagined mist making everything dark to be a fairly obvious indicator of a light vs. dark battle. It's a stretch, though.
This song + Ark summoned = Win.
@TheJenisis09
Tell me about it; My neighbor tried it the other day and I was like "Say wha?" Then next thing I know it did that whole swirly-screen thing and I was in a battle with him. Luckily I drew some Ultima from the neighborhood cat so it was an easy win...
But yeah: Hate it when someone wants to erase all existence. >_>