They are not the same with those who work in the auto industry. China must understand that US and EU will not let car industry to die. Between CO2 and jobs US and EU will choose jobs. All Asian manufacturers who sell in EU or US build cars in US or EU.
@@plau2007are you old enough to remember the Japanese invasion in the 70's and 80's? What you just said was said then. They started by laughing and calling the unreliable rust buckets "Japcrap". What goes around comes around. 😂
As someone in the US who is looking for a good affordable electric car this can't happen soon enough for me. If US manufacturers think I will buy one of their ICE cars in meantime they have another thing coming. I can make may present car last many years more.
@@Only-Memories-In-The-Endyou are just assuming that you will have to change battery every 10 years. Also, you are assuming that whenever in future you have to change battery, it will be half the price of the car at that time.
you don't have to change it, in 10yrs you'll still have around 90% capacity, a phone charge 1000 times will have 80% capacity left, a car charge a 1000 times that's 20 years.@@jassam707
Politicians in this country don’t want Chinese EVs here. However I think it will a case of “delayed, not denied”. The Chinese are not stupid. They will figure out a way to get their EVS into the USA regardless of who is running the country.
its the consumers that aint stupid they will demand good value cars. byd should just goto texas and build evs. i doubt those in dc will say anything about it then
Supply & demand US consumer wants good value BEVs Only supplier is China. They’ve spent last 20 years learning how, instead of in denial like gm, Stellantis, VW, Toyota.
Build a Harley that meets fossil fuel guzzling standards. "Approved Sold Marketed." But not eco tier Chinese import EVs. No no no, far too dangerous for our little babies who have to be protected.
If US govt allow chinese cars into market, people will have to spend less on car loan + maintenance and will be able to spend their money on other stuff. So, good for both US and China.
They better start making trucks to sell in America...at real pickup truck prices of $24000 not $78000 like our "Big 3"...it's a fuc..en truck for gods sake not some Rolls Royce people. That's why no-one is buying your trucks.
BYD has already said they have no intention of shipping cars from the Mexico plant into N America. Its strictly to supply Mexico and central America. Much in the same way that their newly acquired plant in Brazil is for the S American markets. BYD Tried to come to Canada and the gov said no. We have been sanctioning Chinese solar in Canada for 20 years btw. There is a 300% tariff on all Chinese solar imports. And I am certain they will do likewise for batteries in the near future.
This is very sad. Because if you don't compete, your products will eventually be so outdated, that no one will want it other than the citizens inside Canada or the US. This is very unfair toward the citizens, because they are forced to spend their hard earned money on less desirable goods.
@@fdjw88enough of spreading this nonsense. China has been protecting it’s industries for decades. Blocking imports does not mean not competing. It’s just being smart like China has been.
@@TheBoobanlike China has been allowing the US to set up their factories, selling iPhones, Teslas in China? Or should China ban iPhones like the US did to Huawei on national security concerns? Brainwashed Americans deserve what they're in
already 14 European countries have BYD car service network. How they did it? They partnered with well established service networks which means in no time they have even better service network coverage than Tesla as Tesla never partnered with other car service networks.
BYD should buy a historically American car brand that is currently unused or fading away. VW seems like they can do well with the Scout brand. I think there are companies that own brands they don't use who would be willing to sell them. Then, EVs they build in Mexico can be branded with a recognized American brand would sell easily in the USA.
Europe is practically in recession. I doubt they have appetite for buying at present. Somehow, I see this going the way Chinese real estate went. Too much volume with very less consumption resulting in ghost cities and crashing of construction companies.
Lmao it's the build quality at least here in Canada we have already seen how EVs can't take hitting a snow ball without replacing the battery at a cost of the vehicle by Hyundai twice made national news. Here we have free press that reports on garbage vehicles.
@@stefan2796 they are no more Communist ,they are the World 🌎🌍 power today ,and you know that, they have produced because they know people will need them ,their prices are better in the Market this days ,and their EV 🚗 Products are very Unique and Beautiful, check ,2024. Luxeed, Avatr, Nio , Cherry Exeed ,etc and you will know what am talking about,and their prices are for almost every pockets ,less than $50.000 Dallars almost all the EV🚗 ,and trust me they are very beautiful,nice cars if I will buy EV ,I will buy China EV , I love their products ,
@@stefan2796 they are no more Communist,they are the world 🌎🌍 power today and the Wise people know that , they know people will buy their products that is why the produce them ,and trust me their products are Unique,if I will buy a EV I will go for. China EV , check the ,Nio ,Luxeed , Avatr ,BYN Han etc and if you are very smart 🤓 you will know what am talking about ,
I would prefer an american EV but i get tired of waiting for them to put out something good and affordable. Kudos to China making it happen and forcing US companies to step up their game.
I think it is intwresting at the end of the day it is seemingly less about environmentally conscious but instead money and profit. Those car ships run on dirty diesel. Your own ships may be cheaper, but I wonder what this does with the carbon credits or Chinese EVs. I wonder what the pollution impacts of these ships are.
My core concern with BYD is safety they need to have close to zero battery fires, then I feel better about global exports. They need to get batteries safe to the top of the list
Rubbish. Chinese CATL and BYD are the top 2 batteries maker in the world even Tesla buys battery from them. Top of the list is don't be a racist against the Chinese. It make you look like a loser.
If BYD is verticaly integrated, why dont they handle then the sales and after sales, just like Tesla. It is the main reason why BYDs currently dont sell very well in Europe.
China's population is around 4.2 times bigger than that of the USA - but China's Shipbuilding Capacity is 232 Times Greater Than That of the United States.
"excelent" is a word I just can't apply to EVs, it's just too early for celebrating, at least 2 decades are needed to really iron out the problems with EVs . Sad almost no one talks about these problems, oh and it's not just the battery. Have you guys though for how much are you going to sell your EV after 5-6 years of use? Do you know ho much it costs to make even the simplest repair? How about bigger repairs? Do you know how much depreciation an EV gets in little time? My nephew has a Renault EV for about 6 years and can't find a battery replacement because they are no longer manufactured, he is hoping some crashed car with the same battery in good condition will solve this problem. This is completely unacceptable. Also car insurances are very high for EVs, I wonder why. Oh and please check the new video on this channel "In some countries Chinese EVs are almost impossible to insure" this alone speaks volumes about Chinese EVs. And the always present range problem and battery safety and cold climates limitations.
@user-oc5ry8pp1p the only problem is that if the demand cools they are going to be left with these big ships sitting around or try to compete for other shipping companies for other orders. Hardly the core business of an EV maker...
@@user-oc5ry8pp1p if the demand for Chinese EV's crater due to tariffs and other issues like slower EV adoption, they will have these huge ships sitting around doing nothing. Or they will have to compete with shipping companies for orders, hardly the core business of an EV maker 🙂
Selling in countries is more difficult than setting up infrastructure for sales is expensive. It is not like in China probably never have to take care of the customers. How much did Honda or Toyota spend to come to the USA in the 70's? In today's dollars probably in the billions.
Good thing about it is that Tesla, which started the BEV revolution, also benefits from that...because it is companies like SAIC that transport Tesla cars. BEV excellence for all humans...even in cheaper cars!
BYD 2023 net profit $ 4 billion increase 80% from last years. I don't think BYD is desperate to sale their car. How do i know BYD make profit becsuse i got share. 😊😊😊😊
They may have large orders for ships but they will only make what they can use. Still a massive assumption that people will buy them outside China. How are these ships going to be powered. Will it increase China's carbon footprint? Will they be subject to an additional carbon tax?
Powered by methanol - look up Maersk - also oil transport presently takes up 40% of world shipping. More electric means less oil shipped - that’s an offset!
In France Chinese EVs will not receive any subsidies because it emits too much CO2 during production and transportation. Renault 5 is 25000euro ... 18.000 with subsidies. BYD Dolphin is 30000 euro.
This is really about the reality that Marine insurnace to carry EVs is getting so expensive due to fires that destoryed two large car ships; that if they didn't find a way around it Chinese makers would be forced to produce cars on the continent they want to sell on because insurance would be prohibitive. China still wants to ship cars from China; so they are building their own ships and will insure them with Government backing - just another subsidy. They could see this coming 2 years ago the first Mega ship sank due to an EV fire.. a car sitting doing nothing - caught on fire and caused the ship to sink in 10,000 feet of water - would you insure them?
@@johnfrancis4401If you are comparing all ICE to all BEVs - but - BEVs average only 1.5 years old; and average ICE is 12 years old. BEVs like the Porsche that sank the Felicity Ace that went down with 3800 cars on board - the EV was just sitting there doing nothing and caught fire. This is because lithium ion batteries have dendrites - deposits that can grow and cause a short just doing nothing and burn down anything around them.
@@user-hg9ij7rf1f ruclips.net/video/yOA7qKMcjcE/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/DwhnArkZTu8/видео.html,ruclips.net/video/qKa8mVOe5so/видео.html Looks like they have problems too. A serious problem is the CCP suppresses the numbers and seriousness; and without a feedback loop problems do not get fixed. This won't work in the West where they will be held to account and sued.
Regrettably, Tesla made two fundamental miscalculations in recent years which now pave the way for China to gain a relatively quick advantage and ultimately dominating position in the overall EV market. First, Elon Musk decided early on in the evolution of Tesla vehicles that design concepts would be "open source" and not extensively protected by patent law. The idea being that this philosophy would accelerate (no pun intended) proliferation and acceptance of EVs worldwide. However, such a philosophy not only invited but encouraged design reverse engineering and outright plagiarism. Second, Tesla built one of its first GigaFactories in Shanghai, China. The primary rationale was to sidestep foreign import trade tariffs imposed by China's government, access a huge Chinese consumer market, leverage favorable local labor rates, and align closely with Lithium-Ion battery manufacturers (also based in China). This scenario is a clear example of the CCP program known as "Elite Capture". In essence, this second decision regarding GigaFactory-Shanghai basically trained Chinese workers (undoubtedly loyal to China's CCP) not only in Tesla's innovative design technologies but also important manufacturing techniques. So, combining this valuable information essentially given away by Tesla along with preferential treatment gained regarding Lithium-Ion battery cost, Chinese EV brands such as NIO and BYD achieved an overall cost-saving jump start (no pun intended). At the same time, these Chinese EVs can then be offered at a tremendously lower price to consumers undercutting all competitors. The end result is China will most likely substantially eclipse Tesla for market share while also controlling a crucial source of Lithium-Ion batteries made available to any competing brands worldwide. Sadly, Tesla is the architect of its own demise ... honestly, who didn't actually see this coming!?
What is wrong with other countries succeeding or producing them? They weren't miscalculations and the automakers in the US had access to this information as well. Theses "miscalculations" as you call them are doing exactly as intended, but because it's not moving fast in the US you don't support it. They just choose to fight for oil & gas. The US is ignorant and stuck in their ways while some other countries are actually open to displacing oil & gas. Stop being a nationalist and buying all the US propaganda swirling around. - US Citizen
Tesla made a mistake and only released the Chinese version of the patent, which is why Germany, Japan and Apple can't catch up with Chinese electric cars because they can't read Chinese.
@@kamsunleong6648 As it turns out, Tesla doesn't make the majority of its money on EV sales. Tesla has actually been making its profits by selling EPA vouchers to other brands which have not yet achieved mandated electrification regulatory requirements. So, in truth, the Shanghai facility did not save Tesla from financial insolvency. As is often the case, there are specific countries/governments lurking in the shadows watching for someone else to develop innovative technologies and then quickly copy these ideas. Dig deep enough and the truth is there waiting to be discovered ...
@@jeezy0025The main reason governments are mandating electrification of passenger vehicles actually relates more to global political agendas than climate concerns. As it turns out, ICE passenger vehicles only contribute at most 7% of all worldwide carbon emissions (reference Harry's Garage channel on RUclips discussing this subject for further details). So this brings up the crucial question of "why" then are governments focussing on passenger vehicles and forcing electrification on consumers? The answer is quite simple ... it involves World Economic Forum (WEF) directives to insure long-term human sustainability but interestingly these (directives) are heavily influenced by China and its own CCP objectives. In essence, a global dependence on fossil fuels is being exchanged for Lithium and Cobalt ... and you may have already guessed it but China controls over 80% of all mining/ processing of these two critical natural resources (in Argentina, Brazil, and Chile). This vehicle electrification program shifting global energy dependence is just one of several maneuvers instigated by China to be in a position, as the CCP has stated, thereby "offering the world an alternative form of governance and economics" by 2046. As is the case regarding many political topics in life ... things are not quite as they appear on the surface!
These ships have fireproof compartments for each car/fire hazard. So that when one more self ignite, they won't ignite the one next to them and sink the ship. Safe eh?
Just wondering how many of these are dual-purpose and can be commandeered by the PLA to invade Taiwan…well let’s hope they stay as civilian car carriers and not repurposed for nefarious actions
@@stefan2796 high insurance costs would probably the a problem also with used Chinese ICE cars. This is mostly an administrative and political issue. And the question between ICE and batteries are also mostly a political and economic one.
China finds itself with excess production, with inability of it's domestic market to absorb such production. The question is whether the rest of the world economies will be willing to tolerate loss of of their own respective auto industries, as they did their solar panel industries. :(
They need to build separate ships for the batteries. They also need a way to load/unload EVs without batteries. The battery transport ships would need to have special containment and fire fighting measures
@@kamsunleong6648EVs also need parts replacement, don't fool yourself. If you run into an accident with an EV, your car might get totalled because parts are not there, or extremely expensive. This is a serious issue at the moment.
Every electric car made is obsolete. - Too much innovation on micro chips (using less power for same processor power) - Too much innovation on battery technology (longevity and energy density) - Too much innovation on car communication using PoE (wire complexity) - Too much innovation on car voltage standards to adopt 48vdc and inverter efficiency - Too much improvement possibilities in motor and drivetrain (1% boost in efficiency can result in a net 5-10% in range) - Too much improvement in air suspension and steer by wire. Every car on the road is pretty much worthless compared to a future of accelerated improvements of car features and standards. The EV marked basically did a global reset and they now have to start all over.
If Chinese manufacturers continue to have replacement parts issues, no one is going to buy them. Nor would they be able to afford the insurance costs. Not to mention poorly made knockoff parts that have improper collapse zones, if any, at all. I could go on and on.
Chinese don’t care about EU and the US at all. They built affordable vehicles for working class around the world. Think about this: Africa has population of 1.2 billion. If only 1/10 of African can afford a basic EV….
Didn't this guy just read some news article saying that nobody’s buying cheaply made Chinese crap in Norway? Unless they are going to dump these garbage EVs into the ocean, I don’t see the point of ordering 50 gazillion mega car ships.
I understand. Can't afford one. So lets just slander. If they are garbage, why is EU so worried about them coming into Europe. Why need to raise tariffs. No one will buy them. European brands are safe. Right?
These ships won't be needed as the demand for Chinese evs is not there and this coupled with massive oversupply will result in huge losses for these Chinese ev companies and the shipping companies involved.
@@kamsunleong6648 I don’t want an electric car that I can’t swap out the battery . That makes zero sense to have an object that needs battery power but you can never replace the battery.
China is betting on the wrong horse. But they will probably retool and manufacture and ship something else after death of EVs (except for a few makes like Tesla who might survive).
@@trythis2821 And you are saying this because you have some special insight into BYD's design and marketing abilities, and also know about competitors' competencies?
@@sarcasmunlimited1570 I am saying that because lots of folk want cheap EVs. The BYD Seagull if it gets exported to more markets will be a huge success. Tesla Model 2 when it arrives will be another runaway success.
Jai Hinduja. We Indians may have received intelligence that ETIM terrrorist groups and Falungong may have passed information on to the German Adrian Zenz that those MEGA ship could have been built with Uygher slave labor.
They dont need these at all. If they want to invade, Taiwan can expect a barrage of hypersonic missiles, swarm drones, high energy laser beams, all aiming straight at Taipei.
@@kamsunleong6648 Yes, exactly, Taiwan expects them, are prepared for them, will defeat them and China will still be faced with the problem of an amphibious assault
Sanctions didn't stop Iran from having a nuclear program or stop them from making some pretty impressive drones. Sanction is an admission of your inability to compete and outperform your competitor. In fact it helps to motivate and work around them
@@kamsunleong6648 hahaha youre insane. Iranian people hates own regime. The regime will drop whenever they want. You make sound like it is ok create toys like nuclear. Facepalm
Thank you Sam. Here in the USA, we need affordable electric vehicles and welcome the competition if that is what it is going to take to get an affordable EV. 🏜🕺🏻🐕🏖
OK, I haven't done the math on this...but. With 7000 cars, each with V2L, could you not electrically power a ship for the voyage? Seems like a no-brainer to me. And no, you wouldn't need 7000 V2L connections, just some means of moving the cables, and as many connections as you need to extract the average load. Charge the cars to 100% at the factory, utilize their power down to 20-30% SOC, and recharge them at the destination. The ship would have some amount of its own power on board and some power source, probably in a hybrid propulsion scheme, for the return trip.
Dont forget BYD is a public listed company and American have big share in BYD.
They are not the same with those who work in the auto industry.
China must understand that US and EU will not let car industry to die. Between CO2 and jobs US and EU will choose jobs.
All Asian manufacturers who sell in EU or US build cars in US or EU.
@@plau2007are you old enough to remember the Japanese invasion in the 70's and 80's?
What you just said was said then.
They started by laughing and calling the unreliable rust buckets "Japcrap".
What goes around
comes around. 😂
As someone in the US who is looking for a good affordable electric car this can't happen soon enough for me. If US manufacturers think I will buy one of their ICE cars in meantime they have another thing coming. I can make may present car last many years more.
Not if it's more than 15 years old... 😂
E scooters are the way to go.👍@@Only-Memories-In-The-End
@@Only-Memories-In-The-Endyou are just assuming that you will have to change battery every 10 years. Also, you are assuming that whenever in future you have to change battery, it will be half the price of the car at that time.
you don't have to change it, in 10yrs you'll still have around 90% capacity, a phone charge 1000 times will have 80% capacity left, a car charge a 1000 times that's 20 years.@@jassam707
Yes same. Gross ICE pollution makes people sick and kills people and is unpleasant to say the least. Electric for me too ✊💯
If the Chinese want to make cars at a loss then why not buy all that we can take while the deal is on?
because jobs
wrrrr
Politicians in this country don’t want Chinese EVs here. However I think it will a case of “delayed, not denied”. The Chinese are not stupid. They will figure out a way to get their EVS into the USA regardless of who is running the country.
its the consumers that aint stupid they will demand good value cars. byd should just goto texas and build evs. i doubt those in dc will say anything about it then
the consumer wants lower priced decent EV + the chinese have them. => they will find a way to med demand with suply
Supply & demand
US consumer wants good value BEVs
Only supplier is China.
They’ve spent last 20 years learning how, instead of in denial like gm, Stellantis, VW, Toyota.
@@christopherchen6170 Japan brands strated to sell cras in US after they build factories in US.
If they want to sell in US they must invest in US.
@@plau2007China wont want factories with fat ess lazy workers that constantly going strike😂
Good bye ford gm. And dodge.
What we desperately want in the US is a well built half ton work truck that is affordable. I would have no issue buying one made in China.
Ah come on byd etc are just arms of the CCP...these are really for transporting military vehicles if china decides to invade any places.
Agree there’s too much technology in new vehicles,
Chinese sell cars like smartphones. First you must see where you will repair it and who much the insurance costs.
@@Only-Memories-In-The-End A half ton truck is a minitruck.
Build a Harley that meets fossil fuel guzzling standards. "Approved Sold Marketed." But not eco tier Chinese import EVs. No no no, far too dangerous for our little babies who have to be protected.
If US govt allow chinese cars into market, people will have to spend less on car loan + maintenance and will be able to spend their money on other stuff. So, good for both US and China.
BYD's first 5,000 vehicles shipped to Europe have been sold out
Generally produced to order
5,000 is a very small # and Germans aren't buying NIO or BYD... it's mostly the Chinese in Europe buying them.
And returned
To whom? I hardly see them on the road.
@@ZoomZoomMX3 LINKS PLEASE
They better start making trucks to sell in America...at real pickup truck prices of $24000 not $78000 like our "Big 3"...it's a fuc..en truck for gods sake not some Rolls Royce people.
That's why no-one is buying your trucks.
So this is the only way companies can ship EVe from China🤔😂 I wonder if ports will let them dock??? This is just crazy!!!
China EV companies have to pay off the US Congre$$ members first.
Or maybe they already have.
No matter what, we customers get the most benefits!
BYD has already said they have no intention of shipping cars from the Mexico plant into N America. Its strictly to supply Mexico and central America. Much in the same way that their newly acquired plant in Brazil is for the S American markets. BYD Tried to come to Canada and the gov said no. We have been sanctioning Chinese solar in Canada for 20 years btw. There is a 300% tariff on all Chinese solar imports. And I am certain they will do likewise for batteries in the near future.
Nice, also should 200% tax on imported iphone and Google pixel.
Ideology makes people brain dead.
This is very sad. Because if you don't compete, your products will eventually be so outdated, that no one will want it other than the citizens inside Canada or the US. This is very unfair toward the citizens, because they are forced to spend their hard earned money on less desirable goods.
@@fdjw88enough of spreading this nonsense. China has been protecting it’s industries for decades. Blocking imports does not mean not competing. It’s just being smart like China has been.
@@TheBoobanlike China has been allowing the US to set up their factories, selling iPhones, Teslas in China? Or should China ban iPhones like the US did to Huawei on national security concerns? Brainwashed Americans deserve what they're in
It’s call vertical integration
BYD vertical integration keeps prices low for global EV consumers
They are not cheap. And there is hardly a dealer network. Second hand value: close to none. So nobody is buying this stuff.
You'd think the Japanese willing be selling their car carriers - get a used bargain!!
Note BYD powering theirs with LPG, not bituminous oil.
I wager there isn’t a Japanese carrier under 20 years old. Of 25 yr life.
already 14 European countries have BYD car service network. How they did it? They partnered with well established service networks which means in no time they have even better service network coverage than Tesla as Tesla never partnered with other car service networks.
What is that service network? I don't want to drive 30-40 mls to get my car serviced, or repaired.
@@stefan2796contact BYD or google it for your home country.
Probably found insurance for shipment to be crippling, so build your own and self insure.
Sam, you are being over dramatic again, a 5.2% growth for the largest economy by PPP is hardly a "economy in the toilet"
If you can believe CCP figures.
The thing about shipping is the vessel transport cost seems to be only a small part of the cost. The list of charges for a vessel is massive
Not only EV, ship building is a growing industry in China. 7000 cars per ship, sounds good.
Hope these ships have some super effective fire suppression systems.
Byd blade batteries are the safest. Tesla uses them as well.
BYD should buy a historically American car brand that is currently unused or fading away. VW seems like they can do well with the Scout brand. I think there are companies that own brands they don't use who would be willing to sell them. Then, EVs they build in Mexico can be branded with a recognized American brand would sell easily in the USA.
How many car carrying ships will catch fire while at sea?
Europe is practically in recession. I doubt they have appetite for buying at present. Somehow, I see this going the way Chinese real estate went. Too much volume with very less consumption resulting in ghost cities and crashing of construction companies.
You know nothing. Housing in China is becoming more affordable and that benefits the people
@@Trueye-sl2mryeps, and all these cheap cars will be attractive for recession hit consumers who can’t afford more.
The Chinese government bought oversupplied real estate for affordable housing
Chea and good electric cars are storming the market
Lmao it's the build quality at least here in Canada we have already seen how EVs can't take hitting a snow ball without replacing the battery at a cost of the vehicle by Hyundai twice made national news.
Here we have free press that reports on garbage vehicles.
Well Planned by BYD
Communists are good in planning...and producing things nobody is waiting for...just a thought.
@@stefan2796 they are no more Communist ,they are the World 🌎🌍 power today ,and you know that, they have produced because they know people will need them ,their prices are better in the Market this days ,and their EV 🚗 Products are very Unique and Beautiful, check ,2024. Luxeed, Avatr, Nio , Cherry Exeed ,etc and you will know what am talking about,and their prices are for almost every pockets ,less than $50.000 Dallars almost all the EV🚗 ,and trust me they are very beautiful,nice cars if I will buy EV ,I will buy China EV , I love their products ,
@@stefan2796 they are no more Communist,they are the world 🌎🌍 power today and the Wise people know that , they know people will buy their products that is why the produce them ,and trust me their products are Unique,if I will buy a EV I will go for. China EV , check the ,Nio ,Luxeed , Avatr ,BYN Han etc and if you are very smart 🤓 you will know what am talking about ,
I would prefer an american EV but i get tired of waiting for them to put out something good and affordable. Kudos to China making it happen and forcing US companies to step up their game.
How about a computer/phone made in China.
In what metrics Chinese economy is in toilet, like you said?
You lose even rest of your credibility by parroting that mantra 😅
They are building ships to create and sustain employment?
I think it is intwresting at the end of the day it is seemingly less about environmentally conscious but instead money and profit. Those car ships run on dirty diesel. Your own ships may be cheaper, but I wonder what this does with the carbon credits or Chinese EVs. I wonder what the pollution impacts of these ships are.
Finally we may get Chinese EVs in Canada!
Chinese robot is way cheaper than American labor.
Wanting access to the market is not the question, getting access is.
BYD ❤
Renault 5 or BYD Dolphin?
My core concern with BYD is safety they need to have close to zero battery fires, then I feel better about global exports. They need to get batteries safe to the top of the list
You know nothing about BYD. BYD's blade battery, together with CATL's is the safest in the world.
They are number one or two in battery safety. So what are you talking about?
Evidence?
Tesla and many European companies have been using Chinese batteries.
Rubbish. Chinese CATL and BYD are the top 2 batteries maker in the world even Tesla buys battery from them. Top of the list is don't be a racist against the Chinese. It make you look like a loser.
If BYD is verticaly integrated, why dont they handle then the sales and after sales, just like Tesla. It is the main reason why BYDs currently dont sell very well in Europe.
Because EU protector does not allow. Everyone knows except you😂
The European Union, fearing competition, restricts BYD by all means
Which after sales does Tesla have??? You mean creating a ticket for their ICT helpdesk? And waiting weeks before spare parts arrive?
China's population is around 4.2 times bigger than that of the USA - but China's Shipbuilding Capacity is 232 Times Greater Than That of the United States.
Already, Australia is building ships for the US Navy. Cringe.
SAIC have excellent cars at great prices. BYD have excellent cars at prices that are too high in Europe.
"excelent" is a word I just can't apply to EVs, it's just too early for celebrating, at least 2 decades are needed to really iron out the problems with EVs . Sad almost no one talks about these problems, oh and it's not just the battery. Have you guys though for how much are you going to sell your EV after 5-6 years of use? Do you know ho much it costs to make even the simplest repair? How about bigger repairs? Do you know how much depreciation an EV gets in little time? My nephew has a Renault EV for about 6 years and can't find a battery replacement because they are no longer manufactured, he is hoping some crashed car with the same battery in good condition will solve this problem. This is completely unacceptable. Also car insurances are very high for EVs, I wonder why. Oh and please check the new video on this channel "In some countries Chinese EVs are almost impossible to insure" this alone speaks volumes about Chinese EVs. And the always present range problem and battery safety and cold climates limitations.
@@profounddamas. Do you think we haven’t heard all this before?
@@mnhstyBy the comments some folks make yeah I think some haven't heard this before. Anyway who's "we" ?
@@profounddamas EVs are improving rapidly in 3 years they'll be cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, safer, faster, quieter, and longer lasting
it's ur own country's tarriffs and taxes and dealership markups
Tesla need to do the same, so export from Shanghai is more efficient
There were 750 such ships in the world in 2022 with a capacity for 4 mil cats. Adding 40 more is not as Earth shattering as it sounds in this video
its very important if that 750 decided don't want to ship ur stuff, or charge 10x more
@user-oc5ry8pp1p the only problem is that if the demand cools they are going to be left with these big ships sitting around or try to compete for other shipping companies for other orders. Hardly the core business of an EV maker...
@@user-oc5ry8pp1p if the demand for Chinese EV's crater due to tariffs and other issues like slower EV adoption, they will have these huge ships sitting around doing nothing. Or they will have to compete with shipping companies for orders, hardly the core business of an EV maker 🙂
then dominate shipping :)@@dangrecu4034
These are army troop carier ships. Not ev carier ships.
Militairy buildup ambiguity.
Possible. But too imaginative.
For what reason? chinese EVs hardly sell outside of china.
Selling in countries is more difficult than setting up infrastructure for sales is expensive. It is not like in China probably never have to take care of the customers. How much did Honda or Toyota spend to come to the USA in the 70's? In today's dollars probably in the billions.
Good thing about it is that Tesla, which started the BEV revolution, also benefits from that...because it is companies like SAIC that transport Tesla cars. BEV excellence for all humans...even in cheaper cars!
Hail Elon? Don't think so. He is basically producing throw away cars. And paid way too much for Twitter. A complete business failure.
BYD 2023 net profit $ 4 billion increase 80% from last years. I don't think BYD is desperate to sale their car. How do i know BYD make profit becsuse i got share. 😊😊😊😊
They may have large orders for ships but they will only make what they can use. Still a massive assumption that people will buy them outside China. How are these ships going to be powered. Will it increase China's carbon footprint? Will they be subject to an additional carbon tax?
Powered by methanol - look up Maersk - also oil transport presently takes up 40% of world shipping. More electric means less oil shipped - that’s an offset!
Well they buying them here in Asean.
@@kamsunleong6648 they don't need ships to sell into China?
Literally says 'Powered by LNG' on the side of the ship.
@@srapshooter Methane
Anyone notice a change in tone in his recent videos?
Fire sale coming to you, get them while they are hot.
thats from smearing campagne
In France Chinese EVs will not receive any subsidies because it emits too much CO2 during production and transportation.
Renault 5 is 25000euro ... 18.000 with subsidies.
BYD Dolphin is 30000 euro.
This is really about the reality that Marine insurnace to carry EVs is getting so expensive due to fires that destoryed two large car ships; that if they didn't find a way around it Chinese makers would be forced to produce cars on the continent they want to sell on because insurance would be prohibitive. China still wants to ship cars from China; so they are building their own ships and will insure them with Government backing - just another subsidy. They could see this coming 2 years ago the first Mega ship sank due to an EV fire.. a car sitting doing nothing - caught on fire and caused the ship to sink in 10,000 feet of water - would you insure them?
Electric cars are less prone to catch fire than ICE cars. But hybrid cars are more prone.
@@johnfrancis4401If you are comparing all ICE to all BEVs - but - BEVs average only 1.5 years old; and average ICE is 12 years old. BEVs like the Porsche that sank the Felicity Ace that went down with 3800 cars on board - the EV was just sitting there doing nothing and caught fire. This is because lithium ion batteries have dendrites - deposits that can grow and cause a short just doing nothing and burn down anything around them.
It burns with ternary lithium batteries, and BYD uses blades with lithium iron phosphate batteries which are very safe
@@user-hg9ij7rf1f ruclips.net/video/yOA7qKMcjcE/видео.html, ruclips.net/video/DwhnArkZTu8/видео.html,ruclips.net/video/qKa8mVOe5so/видео.html Looks like they have problems too. A serious problem is the CCP suppresses the numbers and seriousness; and without a feedback loop problems do not get fixed. This won't work in the West where they will be held to account and sued.
@@litestuffllc7249 Where's your evidence?
What powers these mega ships?😊
Day 7,045 of Sam wearing the EXACT same shirt in EVERY video...
Do you know how much carbon it takes to keep up with fashion. Your priorities are not beneficial to the planet.
Sam doesn't like change. Preach but no practise...
Regrettably, Tesla made two fundamental miscalculations in recent years which now pave the way for China to gain a relatively quick advantage and ultimately dominating position in the overall EV market. First, Elon Musk decided early on in the evolution of Tesla vehicles that design concepts would be "open source" and not extensively protected by patent law. The idea being that this philosophy would accelerate (no pun intended) proliferation and acceptance of EVs worldwide. However, such a philosophy not only invited but encouraged design reverse engineering and outright plagiarism. Second, Tesla built one of its first GigaFactories in Shanghai, China. The primary rationale was to sidestep foreign import trade tariffs imposed by China's government, access a huge Chinese consumer market, leverage favorable local labor rates, and align closely with Lithium-Ion battery manufacturers (also based in China). This scenario is a clear example of the CCP program known as "Elite Capture". In essence, this second decision regarding GigaFactory-Shanghai basically trained Chinese workers (undoubtedly loyal to China's CCP) not only in Tesla's innovative design technologies but also important manufacturing techniques. So, combining this valuable information essentially given away by Tesla along with preferential treatment gained regarding Lithium-Ion battery cost, Chinese EV brands such as NIO and BYD achieved an overall cost-saving jump start (no pun intended). At the same time, these Chinese EVs can then be offered at a tremendously lower price to consumers undercutting all competitors. The end result is China will most likely substantially eclipse Tesla for market share while also controlling a crucial source of Lithium-Ion batteries made available to any competing brands worldwide. Sadly, Tesla is the architect of its own demise ... honestly, who didn't actually see this coming!?
What is wrong with other countries succeeding or producing them? They weren't miscalculations and the automakers in the US had access to this information as well. Theses "miscalculations" as you call them are doing exactly as intended, but because it's not moving fast in the US you don't support it. They just choose to fight for oil & gas. The US is ignorant and stuck in their ways while some other countries are actually open to displacing oil & gas. Stop being a nationalist and buying all the US propaganda swirling around. - US Citizen
Tesla made a mistake and only released the Chinese version of the patent, which is why Germany, Japan and Apple can't catch up with Chinese electric cars because they can't read Chinese.
Shanghai gigafactory saved Tesla.
@@kamsunleong6648 As it turns out, Tesla doesn't make the majority of its money on EV sales. Tesla has actually been making its profits by selling EPA vouchers to other brands which have not yet achieved mandated electrification regulatory requirements. So, in truth, the Shanghai facility did not save Tesla from financial insolvency. As is often the case, there are specific countries/governments lurking in the shadows watching for someone else to develop innovative technologies and then quickly copy these ideas. Dig deep enough and the truth is there waiting to be discovered ...
@@jeezy0025The main reason governments are mandating electrification of passenger vehicles actually relates more to global political agendas than climate concerns. As it turns out, ICE passenger vehicles only contribute at most 7% of all worldwide carbon emissions (reference Harry's Garage channel on RUclips discussing this subject for further details). So this brings up the crucial question of "why" then are governments focussing on passenger vehicles and forcing electrification on consumers? The answer is quite simple ... it involves World Economic Forum (WEF) directives to insure long-term human sustainability but interestingly these (directives) are heavily influenced by China and its own CCP objectives. In essence, a global dependence on fossil fuels is being exchanged for Lithium and Cobalt ... and you may have already guessed it but China controls over 80% of all mining/ processing of these two critical natural resources (in Argentina, Brazil, and Chile). This vehicle electrification program shifting global energy dependence is just one of several maneuvers instigated by China to be in a position, as the CCP has stated, thereby "offering the world an alternative form of governance and economics" by 2046. As is the case regarding many political topics in life ... things are not quite as they appear on the surface!
the US consumer wants lower priced decent EV + the chinese have them. => they will find a way to med demand with suply
These ships have fireproof compartments for each car/fire hazard. So that when one more self ignite, they won't ignite the one next to them and sink the ship. Safe eh?
They can disconnect the high voltage battery for shipping if that's an issue. Also, shipping the cars with a low charge would help.
Just wondering how many of these are dual-purpose and can be commandeered by the PLA to invade Taiwan…well let’s hope they stay as civilian car carriers and not repurposed for nefarious actions
LOL
I really hope there will be a good Chinese ev ready when I need to buy a new car
You'll be spoilt for choice.
@@kamsunleong6648 unless the European Union tries something really really stupid.
Buying a second hand ICE car is better for the environment (if you care). New EVs are money pits, due to the depreciation and high insurance costs.
@@stefan2796 high insurance costs would probably the a problem also with used Chinese ICE cars. This is mostly an administrative and political issue. And the question between ICE and batteries are also mostly a political and economic one.
Good bye expensive amount cars
China finds itself with excess production, with inability of it's domestic market to absorb such production. The question is whether the rest of the world economies will be willing to tolerate loss of of their own respective auto industries, as they did their solar panel industries. :(
Only 20 countries manufacture cars
Imagine if all those ships were full of soldiers and armoured cars ! Would make invasions a little easier 🇬🇧👍
Easy to destroy, Ukraine already has a lot of experience turning war ships into "submarines", blub blub...
E.Vs' as far as the eye can see... 😂
Oh well, they won't make it to Australia coz they're all L/H drives.(so far)
That would partially explain ridiculous high selling price in Europe.
Troop transports
They need to build separate ships for the batteries. They also need a way to load/unload EVs without batteries. The battery transport ships would need to have special containment and fire fighting measures
There are no fire problems in BYD EV cars that use LFP battery blades
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂😂
Need a firefighter on bosrd
PARTS WILL BE HARD TO GET.
Ev don't have too many parts.
@@kamsunleong6648EVs also need parts replacement, don't fool yourself. If you run into an accident with an EV, your car might get totalled because parts are not there, or extremely expensive. This is a serious issue at the moment.
Every electric car made is obsolete.
- Too much innovation on micro chips (using less power for same processor power)
- Too much innovation on battery technology (longevity and energy density)
- Too much innovation on car communication using PoE (wire complexity)
- Too much innovation on car voltage standards to adopt 48vdc and inverter efficiency
- Too much improvement possibilities in motor and drivetrain (1% boost in efficiency can result in a net 5-10% in range)
- Too much improvement in air suspension and steer by wire.
Every car on the road is pretty much worthless compared to a future of accelerated improvements of car features and standards.
The EV marked basically did a global reset and they now have to start all over.
Every consumer product is jam tomorrow - yet people buy progress all the time
If Chinese manufacturers continue to have replacement parts issues, no one is going to buy them. Nor would they be able to afford the insurance costs. Not to mention poorly made knockoff parts that have improper collapse zones, if any, at all. I could go on and on.
😂😂😂😂 I will be shocked if these ship orders are ever built
Why do you doubt? When they say they are coming to Mexico and Europe, they did.
MEGA ships?? Where are the MAGA ships sending something useful for humanity??
and wat about the energy use the cars are showing on the trip computer wat give a total diff picture then real use?
Let BYD spend billions they will never sell the volume they expect to sell in Europe and the states,That’s a fact!
That’s what we said about Japanese vehicles back in the 80’s
the world is not just Europe and the States
The times they are a changing
Chinese don’t care about EU and the US at all. They built affordable vehicles for working class around the world. Think about this: Africa has population of 1.2 billion. If only 1/10 of African can afford a basic EV….
You speak bollox
the look hole has been blocked
What will be will be we can't do anything about it cheers mate
make sure the ship also electric powered not diesel powered to make sure zero co2 emission.
probly working on it
Probably two huge diesel engines. Cheap diesel fuel from ruzzia...
jelly good...haha@@stefan2796
Hello mate
Didn't this guy just read some news article saying that nobody’s buying cheaply made Chinese crap in Norway? Unless they are going to dump these garbage EVs into the ocean, I don’t see the point of ordering 50 gazillion mega car ships.
Delusional people everywhere, can't cope with the rise of China
I understand. Can't afford one. So lets just slander. If they are garbage, why is EU so worried about them coming into Europe. Why need to raise tariffs. No one will buy them. European brands are safe. Right?
Half the price of a Japanese car and half the quality and life.🤷♀️💩
Not sure if you knew, they actually performed better than Japanese cars in the most strict highway collision test lab in Europe.😅
I assume you are using a Chinese made device to post this.
Depreciation of chinese cars is extreme, because there is no market for second hand chinese EVs...
These ships won't be needed as the demand for Chinese evs is not there and this coupled with massive oversupply will result in huge losses for these Chinese ev companies and the shipping companies involved.
HAHAHAHA you wish. Loser.
Demand is pretty good here in Asean. They have just stated.
dangerous move because if they sail near the red sea their ships will be attacked by houthis
And once they burn, the fire cannot be put out easily.
1st
BYD sucks. Nio is the only Chinese EV company relevant. I’d buy a Nio not any other brands from china
Over here Byd is king. Nio is for those who can afford.
@@kamsunleong6648 I don’t want an electric car that I can’t swap out the battery . That makes zero sense to have an object that needs battery power but you can never replace the battery.
Nobody is going to buy a Chinese car with no availability of spare parts and nowhere to repair it
We shall buy them
Same was said about Japanese cars once were referred to as Jap crap, now look at them.
Evs don't require too many parts. They are already well established here in Asean. While you talk, they work.
China is betting on the wrong horse. But they will probably retool and manufacture and ship something else after death of EVs (except for a few makes like Tesla who might survive).
Wait until cars like the BYD Seagull get exported. The horse is going to gallop away for a podium finish.
@@trythis2821
And you are saying this because you have some special insight into BYD's design and marketing abilities, and also know about competitors' competencies?
@@trythis2821Keep on dreaming. There is a lot of competition on the EV market.
@@stefan2796 Wait until it becomes a reality, we'll see who is dreaming then.
@@sarcasmunlimited1570 I am saying that because lots of folk want cheap EVs. The BYD Seagull if it gets exported to more markets will be a huge success. Tesla Model 2 when it arrives will be another runaway success.
BYD have fire issues, is this smart to ship a bunch of EVs in a container ship transport ???
What fire issues? They have been on the road here for more than a year. Waiting to hear about the first fire.
ready for invasion, but which one.
Jai Hinduja. We Indians may have received intelligence that ETIM terrrorist groups and Falungong may have passed information on to the German Adrian Zenz that those MEGA ship could have been built with Uygher slave labor.
Troop ships
These car ships are so ugly.
As long as cat catches mice, it does not matter which color it is
Those ships are might usefully to the CCP army as landing ships in tiawan
They dont need any of these. Modern warfare with drones, electronic, electromagnetic, hypersonic, laser.
Troop transports for Taiwan invasion
They dont need these at all. If they want to invade, Taiwan can expect a barrage of hypersonic missiles, swarm drones, high energy laser beams, all aiming straight at Taipei.
@@kamsunleong6648 Yes, exactly, Taiwan expects them, are prepared for them, will defeat them and China will still be faced with the problem of an amphibious assault
All those lithium batteries. I wonder how far the ship will travel before it goes up in......
Byd blade batteries are the safest. The first ship already reached port and goods sold. Please try up keep up.
i look forward SANCTIONS for chinese cars!
Build better and you won't need sanctions!
@@johnnywalker2870 nope as the government give money to their own companies. The European solar panel industry killed that way.. too expensive.
Sanctions didn't stop Iran from having a nuclear program or stop them from making some pretty impressive drones. Sanction is an admission of your inability to compete and outperform your competitor. In fact it helps to motivate and work around them
@@kamsunleong6648 hahaha youre insane. Iranian people hates own regime. The regime will drop whenever they want. You make sound like it is ok create toys like nuclear. Facepalm
Only saving grace is Tesla.
Thank you Sam. Here in the USA, we need affordable electric vehicles and welcome the competition if that is what it is going to take to get an affordable EV. 🏜🕺🏻🐕🏖
People in the US buy pick up trucks. Not chinese toy cars...
OK, I haven't done the math on this...but. With 7000 cars, each with V2L, could you not electrically power a ship for the voyage? Seems like a no-brainer to me. And no, you wouldn't need 7000 V2L connections, just some means of moving the cables, and as many connections as you need to extract the average load. Charge the cars to 100% at the factory, utilize their power down to 20-30% SOC, and recharge them at the destination. The ship would have some amount of its own power on board and some power source, probably in a hybrid propulsion scheme, for the return trip.
Hmm interesting case! A bit similar to LNG carriers using the cargo boil off for propulsion.
Cool idea!
That would make those 7000 used cars by the time they get to their destination!🤣🤣