Armored Core Lore: Human Plus in AC1
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- A gift or a curse? What is Human plus, where did it come from and for anyone who became a plus what did it mean for them.
This is armored core lore on Human plus.
Please note:
If you see to see the annihilator in action may i suggest this video by hellhound13th who recreates the ac and shows if off.
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Human Plus is a great definition of "Great power but with a heavy cost". Even if you survive the operations and use your enhanced skills, basically it feels like your lifespan has been greatly reduced.
A fair assessment. No arguments from me.
Leos Klein indicates this isn't an absolute, however. He's implied to have lived up to 90 years or so by the time of Armored Core 2, and it seems not to have made him insane (well, any more than normal).
It's possible that by AC2 that they've perfected/refined the process to where the side effects aren't as frequent. Then again, Leos Klein likely could've survived via other means.
@@armoredcorelore [listening to half of the lore here....]
meanwhile, those like GA Humanity....
@@foenrik8941 i mean, in the 1st game they had giant mechs, in the 2nd they had space travel, by the time it was 5th they had destroyed seemingly many planets and terraformed them. the jumps in tech are huge so no wonder when the human mind is removed from developing tech. didnt cientists use this like once and then kill off the AI just incase irl?
@@Amin-al-Husseini_1941picture2nd and 5th games are seperate timelines
Human Plus is FromSoft’s literal interpretation of “It cost me an arm and a leg”
Ha ha yes.
For me, a lot of the Human+ lore is uncovered in the Revolution disc of AC:Nexus. You get to know the reason behind the red AC's attack on the train and there's also a mission where you are sent to rescue a person from being experimented on, but sadly, you arrive too late and you are forced to kill him.
Also, the funny thing about Tower City Blade is that it takes place in the AC3 universe, where Human+ supposedly doesn't exist.
Oh no argument here, sadly time this week was against me and i could not include all i wanted.
The one thing I hated about AC3. Made it the worst game in the series.
@@Godzilla2000Xstill had OP-I, while it’s not as fun lore-wise I think it’s a lot more balanced gameplay-wise.
Tower City Blade proves also that AC3 goes into AC4 and we can argue that AC4 goes into AC1 which goes into AC5. The Armored Core Timeline is a gigantic loop
Other games: "You've been losing too much. Would you like to go easy mode?"
Players: "Pffff, don't insult me! Of course I won't!"
FromSoft: "You've been losing too much. You're gonna go on easy mode"
Players: "No please! Not the easy mode, please! I promise I'm gonna pay back that 50k. I promise!"
Oh you will with your organs! Ha ha!"
Another possibility for the escapee’s warning is that in a game over scene all data pertaining to Player Character gets erased, as if that Raven never existed.
So that escapee is likely aware that he will be unpersoned after he is killed and is warning the Player Character that they could face the same fate.
Good point. I like it.
H+ makes body stacking feel effortless. Truly a feeling worth experiencing.
I won't lie, I saw the notification for this video, and it only showed me "Armored Core Lore: Hu..."
I got excited because I thought this would be the Hustler One video.
@@armoredcoreexile soon my friend
Well you can add my poor body to that list. I swear the amount of time i spent destroying floating mines.
@@armoredcorelore all for a good cause friend, all for a good cause.
@@armoredcorelore Lmao, damn floating mines jeez there all the place. 😂
I just realized the three-numbered naming scheme for coral-augmented humans (like C4-621) an AC6 is probably a reference to the "Rebel###" name the player gets after Human Plus augmentation.
It could be. Good lore use here.
Ahh Human Plus, the power that made me really scared in the past cuz my first AC is Project Phantasma, watching the Arena enemies using Karasawa, doing Blade Wave with the Moonlight, and shooting me with the Grenade Launcher while freaking moving terrifies me so much that im not even dared to play the game for like 1 week Imao, but when i finally got the power for myself in AC1...........i feel like everything that i touch will be destroyed in the matter of seconds lol
It is quite the power trip. I know i had fun with it after i was done with my natural playthrough.
@@armoredcorelore H+ is too addicting for me to just pass up, especially with how speedy Gen 1 gameplay pace is(not as fast/speedy as for answer but it's the fastest in the Raven Era for me) destroying them AC's using my dual missile(the V shaped dual missile one), the machine gun with the 500 ammo, and MOONLIGHT blade wave is just...... *chef kiss* amazing
Never had human plus. Think I only got it at the end of AC4
Man, that Moonlight Blade Wave was something else and dont get into a close quarters blade battle with one. You know I had a combination that gave you almost infinite flight time.
@@Godzilla2000X it's an Nuke that Moonlight blade waves, 3K AP lost in one hit is just broken af, the hard part is the skill to do it pre MoA cuz you need to blade and the do the boost to use it instead of MoA Boost first then Blade to use the waves
Going by this, Gen. 1 augmentation you basically just become a human CPU attached to an armored core with wires and tubes for limbs and a Gen. 10 augmentation is you still have your limbs but youre mostly cybernetic now like a mechanical arm, leg, eye or mouth
Pretty much, we have yet to see what the different Generation of augmentation from ac6 look like. But from what we can read this would be a good way to look at them.
I fully expect this to be the most viewed video by far soon enough.
I can’t deny I love using Human Plus, and I think it’s presence as both a hidden unlockable and a factor in the story shows how interesting of a series AC is.
Great video. Can’t wait for the next.
Thank very much, though i will admit i would have liked a better start into the lore of AC1. But from this rough start i hope to get up and get back on my feet.
I really like the way From presented human plus in AC 6, in the game the procedure had years of operations and reached 10 generations.
The augmentation was incredibly dangerous on early generations, but became safer with each improvement.
Thanks AC-Man-of-Lore for reminding me that an Armored Core manga exists. I read it and really enjoyed it. It's very different to me that I can actually see people throughout the book compared to the games where I exclusively see the mecha and a dead landscape. The games almost make me feel like my pilot would be an AI/robot without ever seeing them or anyone else.
The mangas are a good read i admit. And i can see why you say that however i wonder how many people would have played the game if they could not put themselves in as the main raven. I mean we have great rpgs that do this, maybe ac should give it a try too.
Just like anyone said, quick power always comes at price.
and that price seems to be vital organs. Nice.
I'm so used to gen 4 coverage on this video that it felt weird hearing you say "Raven" LMAO
Either way, very excited for this new series. Especially once we start covering Nineball he's sooooo cool
It is a new to me too, however i am glad to hear this as there is a lot to improve on before the next video so hopefully nine-ball video will be epic.
@@armoredcorelore exciteed
GAMEPLAY REASONS : YES
LORE REASONS : NO.
You mean you don't want to become more machine then human and lose your identity to become named rebel random numbers. I get that.
@@armoredcorelore its more for health reasons. At some point I'll be rich enough to retire and enjoy life but that'll never be the case when i'm human +.
The Human Plus features make the game much easier, loved how it was re introduced as OP-INTENSIFY during the second gen series for the PS2, yes i used them back then, loved it.
I don't blame you HP is fun to use. Its a nice break from a normal playthrough.
"...raven...you could be next..." If you are talking about human plus I'm already fully upgraded.
Embrace the power.
The entire concept of Human Plus has intrigued me for years. Awesome video, very few do anything related to Armored Core, I love AC and this channel is badass, earned a subscriber.
Thank you and yes human plus is a subject is quite an interesting, the idea of losing your human side to become powerful, the sacrifices a raven makes becoming a number with thier past wiped and finally how its ideas evolved into AMS.
I knew the beginning of the trailer for ACVI feels familiar. It's a not so subtle nod to Human Plus from AC1.
Well at least Hp in AC1 let thier pilots look normal, not look like your ready to be put in the over for Sunday roast.
now human plus is back in armored core 6 and renamed to augmented human
It looks like it, but maybe when we have the game in hand it will be confirmed.
im about halfway thru ng+ and the overarching story is 🤯 im so confuse but also feel like i know the truth..
The IRS and Sally Mae are about to start taking notes from human plus
So basically, you gradually become less and less human until you're an unstoppable killing machine? I'm convinced that Hidetaka Miyazaki was at least partially inspired by this when making Dark Souls, because Human Plus is basically the cyberpunk version of going Hollow.
Pretty much yes, although hp has this effect in one of the ac manga's where the muscles tighten to the point of heart failure.
So human plus shown in fires of rubicon story trailer is a bit different since you have been already been augmented and not to mention the persons consciousness is transferred into a new body, which is insane.
It is a whole new... well a burning world to explore. I looking forward to seeing the details fromsoftware gives us on the whole process.
Geez... Piloing a NEXT is actually more Safe then taking Human Plus!
In a way yes. Weird huh.
I recall reading a theory that Human Plus is a broken remnant of NEXT technology. While seemingly plausible, it's unlikely for the fact that AC4 and AC1 aren't connected officially, and likely never will be.
technically "no" in a way all Lynx undergo what is essentially Human Plus now whether or not their "bodies" can take it is another thing entirely remember it still needs AMS aptitude to get stuff done in a NEXT in Lore there are specifics but never seen in gameplay since in AC4 it can be argued there is an on off switch to the kojima emitters
i just finished the first Armored Core tonight as my introduction to the series and i had no idea Human Plus was like, a thing you could actually do in the game, great video!
Thank you for your kind words and you can but i always still look at how to unlock it and think that's kind of neat. I wonder how many people have played the game and never even knew about hp.
That's the body horror crap that kept me from failing missions.
Sounds good to me, i just like to fire my back weapon without having to kneel.
@@armoredcorelore that's why treads are the way. I've never not piloted a chonky mech.
this videos are somehow relaxing and enjoyable
Thank you that is very kind of you to say.
It just dawned on me the other day that the Human Plus are just incomplete Lynxs.. with the technology lost via the Great Destruction. This is great story telling and subtle nods.
one of the added benefits of Human plus is that boost efficiency becomes much more efficient (your energy refills faster), next OVERWEIGHT LIMIT is no longer an issue want to slap heavy cores with a light weight legs? yeah no longer an issue this might be upgrades 3-4 or 5-6 what people like is basically being able to use their back weapons on bi-peds yeah... exactly Nineball/Hustler One
My guy, please keep it up, any kind of deep dive into anything is mint. I have properly discovered this due to armored core 6 and am craving more indepth world building in preparation for the next title. Thank you
Thank you for your kind words, i shall do my best.
And this is why the greatest of ravens never took the option. Giving away a part of yourself. A part of your personal freedom and autonomy for power. That's not the way of a free bird that lives on the scraps of the battlefield. That's the way of a raptor that is kept on the yoke of a bird holder. chained and bound. And you do not need. The upgrade to beat the game. You can do it completely pure. It's hilacious It's difficult. It will make you grind your teeth till they crack and rip your hair out at the root. But it can be done. And doing it straight with no improvements. Is what the greatest of ravens accomplish.
Rebel 137 that was my given number.
It's been so long since I played ac1.
But that sticks out like a thorn for me.
I wasnt a very good player back then and I inadvertently got the enhancements lol.
After getting the ability not having to kneel was my turning point and was able to beat the game.
Also you missed one of the human plus abilities.
The ability to have an overweight ac.
Nice, its thing like this that make ac game for me the memories and the lore. And well the issue with that human plus ability is it only unlocks after a player has beaten the game. And a raven who has never been in debt can suddenly do this. Now i was torn mentioning it as to me it was more a reward for completing the game.
@@armoredcorelore it only unlocks after beating the game?
My memory is worse than I thought then lol. I thought I beat it cause I got the enhancements.
Btw, I love your vids. I'm watching more right now, you got a subscriber.
@@adamcappella8088 Well i won't lie i had to go check up on my save files, one with all the human plus unlocked but the game unfinished and one where i have no debt beat the game and can use an overweight ac. I should know, but better to be safe then sorry.
Thank you for the kind compliment and i hope you enjoy them.
@@armoredcorelore everyone can use an overweight AC they are "impractical" in the battlefield this is offset by human plus where their impracticality becomes viable as the overweight effects include energy drain and slower turning which are fully negated by human plus with booster efficiency and higher generator output
The sounds a lot like pilot regeneration from Titanfall games
im hope that armored core 6 will feature human plus missionline that will result one of the endings in AC6 just like elden ring questline did
A last raven style of endings. Hmm sounds cool.
@@armoredcorelore I'm sure this mission line will be phenomenal
lol
I have been waiting for AC1 lore to appear here and the same for 2 and 3.
Well its here with a bit of rough start i will admit. But improve i shall and i hope you'll enjoy what's to come.
@@armoredcorelore Human+ is a great starting point, if you ask me. It ties into both the technology and world of the early games so it serves as an excellent gateway to other topics
To my younger self it was "What do you mean there's a way to use backmounted weapons while moving?". Got all those buffs on a new account first mission as soon as I could.
Oh i know that feeling.
H+ is very mysterious. What does the surgery entail? Probably best From Software never included that detail, since I expect anything they included would end up sounding dated.
Human Plus feels like Murakumo's counterpart to Dyne's (?) biological weapons research.
Some things to think about; I don't think answers were ever given in-universe:
How many people outright died on the operating table?
What was the ultimate goal of the experimentation?
Why only people in crazy amounts of debt?
Makes me think of a different reason there were 2 Hustler One's. I've generally thought H1 was completely machine, with no human pilot. What if both of them are Human Plus subjects who accepted the augmentations, but didn't have free will? What if they were both brainwashed or otherwise controlled by that computer thingy? So, Hustler One always seems to 'survive' his own death because there's actually a few of him running around at any given time. It's just that nobody in-universe knows that there's more than one of him.
It's confirmed in a mission from AC1 that Murakumo didn't create the Human Plus tech, they simply found (or were gifted) it.
I went through all three PS1 games without this because of savescumming. I didn't think I'd be rewarded for failure.
Hey as long as you had fun.
in AC1 I'm fairly sure some of the Human Plus upgrades had more benefits like "passive increase to energy and physical defense" and the most notable "allowing to deploy with an overweight AC with no real detriment"
Honestly I'm not sure about the validity of the defense increase but I know for a fact the overweight one is because I remember abusing it a bit along with having to do so to build some of the Arena AC's... from memory Valkyrie and nineball were "overweight" but then again this was like... what... 22 - 23 years ago since I last played the game so I could be wrong xD
Ah see you bring up a fair point here about overweight AC's. Because at first when typing this script i did think about the overweight and over energy as a Human plus upgrade too. However in truth you have to beat the game 100% then you can basically go wild, no Hp needed so i had to rewrite ha ha.
Overweight deployment is achieved after completing every mission which is possible only after you beat the game at least once as a player. But HP enemies suggest differently.
So as someone who play Armored Core from the very beginning, Human Plus is the western interpretation of Newtypes and so on from the Gundam franchise. If you did not go Human Plus but tried to fight someone who is Human Plus, the gap in firepower is very wide and you are probably going to get your insides pushed in.
Funny how human plus you say is the western interpretation since armored core is a Japanese made game just like Gundam.
Now that i watch cyberpunk 2020-77, they are essesiantly augments & those cause cyberpsychosis
It's still possible to survive however, but the chance is very slim
@@somechinesedude5466 Trust me, the side effect of becoming a Human Plus is WAY more severe than cyberpsychosis.
Like a half human mechanized pilot
Pretty much with your eyes pulled out and other delightful organs missing.
@@armoredcorelore So the techpriest treatment?
I never actually had to use HP on my first playthrough. Maybe ill use it when I replay it
I admit its a fun time after going through without HP.
If you start doing videos for corporations in the original universe (AC1 through AC2: Another Age) and the Armored Core 3 universe (AC3 through Last Raven), I would suggest making separate playlists for them. Have the playlist titles indicate which games/universes those videos are about.
You would also likely be making separate playlists for factions and ACs/pilots in ACV and Verdict Day.
I think that would be a good idea and really i could not mix lynx and raven together anyway due to thier title change.
Thanks I didnt realize there is a novel/manga. Time to binge read!
Have fun.
In debt but donating kidneys in murakuno for buffs?yes
Makes sense to me. Got to pay that debt to big corp might as well get something out of it.
@@armoredcorelorenot gonna lie,the only buff i like in human+ on AC1 is the radar.
because without it,using the radar back parts while doing the sewer missions makes me feel slow,and unaware to my back...😅
@@mr.cantillasz1912 Ha ha i get where you coming from.
I don't know if I missed the part that Murakumo just stumbled upon the HP tech and were doing experiments with it or was it not mentioned on the vid. Anyhow, still like it!
Hmm i swear i mentioned they were given it by a certain AI.
I have no about it Leos Klein (the protagonist of Master of the Arena and antagonist for 2) like Valkyrie bought Human Plus to get the upper hand on Nineball. Also seeing that his goals in 2 are similar to Nineballs I think no doubt he didn’t go to crazy. Sure he wasn’t right in the head but it also could do to the fact with age since he is probably very old in 2. It’s not like I’m saying human+ did not affect his mind but more of he was probably more stable than most of them since he had plans that would actually work and people to work for him who weren’t probably all insane but wanted a better life so to put it.
You should do a video on the Armored Core manga. I've always been curious about it.
Hmmm maybe as a side project one time. I would like to really dig my teeth into the AC1 lore before i think about doing other items.
I was 9 when I played AC1 and I didn't know that becoming a Human Plus subject was a thing the player could do. I guess I never managed to rack up enough debt.
You know it does seem a lot of people never got to experience human plus, its neat really as it means there is something we can go and experience in a whole new way.
Great video! Glad you are doing AC1 stuff now. I just have a suggestion; I would recommend not using epsxe as it is extremely outdated and broken (especially for AC) for your in-game captures; emulate using the Duckstation emulator as it is the go-to for PS1 these days. It will not have any of the graphical or audio issues you are having as seen in your video with text, broken geometry, and popping/distorted audio. Much more accurate and easier to use as well as normally being updated with new features and stability fixes. Set the internal resolution scale to 3x or 5x and PGFX geometry correction checked in the Enhancement Settings and it will look amazing in comparison to epsxe. Keep the awesome videos coming!
Thank you and i will give it a try.
the beginning roots of Arquebus's Vespers right here
fyi you can fix the text not lining up with the boxes if you mess around with the emulator settings. I had the same problem with AC and FF7. I can't remember what video settings they are but mess around a little and it can be corrected
Oh thank you. I will have to have a play around with them then =)
can’t believe they made 621 of these
They did and well who knows what limbs or nerves 621 is missing. But to joke about it then they bubbled wrapped them to make sure they were safe to sell off.
@@armoredcoreloreI dont think he is missing limbs since he even swims to the ac in the sewers and that he has all 4 in the story trailer
@@knightknox6562 True!
I firmly believe that operations 6-10 further enhance the energy gauge performance. It at the very least stops at 8. I have never heard of it affecting turn speed but you can clearly see your energy dropping slower between operations 6 and 8 and I feel even more so up to 10.
There is a lot of different ideas on the mechanics of Human plus still even after all these years. You could be right, it just human plus as a mechanic has a lot of misinformation about it.
@@armoredcorelore yeah lol. I have seen some guides say stop at the fourth one. OP-I definitely helped a lot with it all.
Human plus aka super soldiers that are deadly and the most famous of them all Is Nine Ball
Also in H+ You can shoot lil energy ball by tapping O a second time while using the laser sword
fantastic job sir!!! makes me want to play the first gen games again!
Thank you for the kind words. However i know there is some improvements to be done, but next time I'll hit it out the park.
When I played AC the first time, I didn't knew the human+ existed and I Just complete the first generation without knowing.
That would be the same for me with AC2. I had no idea about human plus and managed to beat the game only to later go online and learn about Human plus.
I remember getting this because even though I loved Armored Core, I was trash at it. Now, I still play them and am still trash.
Well long as you have fun it does not matter. I too am not a good ac player as one of my viewers tells me, they can not watch me play as it disappoints them ha ha.
Actually now that I think about it if you're stepping to the original AC to the AC3 universe, I think you're better off Covering Apple Boy and his AC Esperanza.
For my pilot who notices that 9Ball was flying around while shooting shoulder canons...
...it was a gift.
Lore question: Human Plus Raven had lost an arm of his AC in battle. What's gonna happen to him and how's he gonna get it treated?
Good question. Answer a human plus raven is enhanced through replacing body parts and meshing with AC so if the ac loses its arm its possible the raven would feel the pain mentally or not at depending on how far they have been enhanced.
He or she would not suffer any physical signs however what you could get is mayor mental health damage and we must remember that the enchantments themselves according to a certain tower blade city book that they eventually cause users heart to stop due to muscle stiffening.
@@armoredcorelore So, uh, what's the best way to treat their injury?
@@NoName-hy6xj Oh sorry got lost there. To be honest there is not really a treatment suggested in the games lore unless we think the corporations have drugs to control the neurons of the brain to combat this or mental health services.
However we are talking about an ac arm being blown off not the human plus arm as if it was the other way well I'm sure the corporations for a price would give him an enhanced one. As for the ac arms i think raven nest would replace it for the raven for a large price.
We know thanks again to tower of blade that there is an operation to reverse human plus but its costly and could cost them thier lives on the table. Hope this helps.
@@armoredcorelore Thanks for the info
You lose arm get a new one in manga one of female
Raven last is arm have a new
One she is not H+ I think medial
Treatment is a is advance now
So damn glad I never encountered that, but I've heard tons of players did it purposely because of the gameplay benefits it gains.
I just remembered 621 is a human plus in AC6 since "their AC doesnt kneel down when firing their back mounted cannon". Still i hope fromsoft puts back those back mounted gatling guns, shotguns and linear cannons back in the future, since the only viable back mounted cannons are the SONGBIRDS for stagger stun lock builds...
Oh 621 and all the augmented pilots are way past simply being just HP with what they do. I would like some more back mounted weapons.
@@armoredcorelore 621 is a human plus gen4.
The newest generation is gen10, that is supposed to be safe and with a 100% success rate.
Considering that, I think most pilots are human plus.
Also the OS upgrades are augmentations too.
Cyber-New Types for a non-UC Gundam Timeline.
Actually, it's pretty close to the more extreme form of the Alyana-Vijnana system in Iron Blooded Orphans. More specifically, what Eins turned into near the end of season 1
I'll take OP-Intensify from ac3 and silent line over human plus.
A plug in rather then a whole body modification. I can see why.
Hollons seems to steer clear of this path.
I didn't even know there was a death mechanic in that game. I grinded and won every mission.
great power but at what cost all of your humanity ?...
No only your eyes, a few of your organs and the loss of being able to show any emotion. Kind of scary.
Human Plus was something I was somehow able to avoid when starting AC I like 4 months ago. Still didn't finish it due to the horrible platformer part in the last mission but I'll get there. Some day
Know that feeling, you'll get back to it one day. Honestly I am still one of these players who don't like to fail missions so when I first played ac1 I never got human plus because I loaded my last save and try again.
@@armoredcorelore I only did that when I wanted to finish certain missions.
@@armoredcorelore I just beat AC I. I flew past both Nineballs XD
@@rudatkatzn9171 Ha ha nice. However if you want 100% the game you got to take then both out. Learned that the hard way.
@@armoredcorelore in the future
will you do a video of c4-62 augmentation, since Ayre stated that their augmentations used coral, or will it a part of a video of what is coral?
I will. But i think i will put the augmentations information in the Rubicon research institute video since they are a product of them in a way.
@@armoredcorelore great looking forward to it
Certainly wasnt expecting a "bro she only looks like a kid shes actually this old" moment lol (jk just was surprised at the random anime girl)
Honestly neither was i until i read the ac manga and it talked about human plus. So knew that had to go in.
you already know that nine ball is an A.I so that was weird
Well to be fair i am looking at it from an outside view, in truth nobody really knew about the ai in ac1 in the world of ac1 and nine-ball was made out to be this unbeatable pilot that ravens feared. It would not be until the actions of the raven of ac1 where nineball ai roots would be discovered.
@@armoredcorelore chronologically fair! As i was introduced later to the series that nuance was not in my mind.
Planning on covering the plots for all of the first gen ?
I do. Just covering some small topics first like i did with the lore of AC4 and FA.
@@armoredcorelore awesome!
Nineball is an advanced AI who goes by the monocur Hustler 1 or H1, Nineball been around since the very beginning of AC so calling Nineball an HP doesn't count.
I think it'd be interesting if 621 from AC6 was a victim of the human plus experiments..
not saying this as a theory or whatever, i dont think thats the case at all. but. it WOULD be cool
It is a neat idea and you could say they where a victim in ac6 as we don't really know how or why 621 ended up as they did.
@@armoredcorelore still pretty new to the lore of the game (thanks for the help with that btw ;D) I know the games like to reset the timeline alot, so I'm not sure if AC6 would even Have anything akin to Human Plus. But I think it'd be a neat idea.. The fact the devs leave 621's origins open ended does lend to more fun speculating tho! can't complain with that!
I have a theory that humanity never really went underground, due to the fact many vehicles and buildings are completely empty, like its a bunch of empty large scale dioramas, suppose there is no pilots after the human plus and its just euthanasia in a sense to keep people at bay from screwing over corporate assets? The implications are still huge because of how much questionable logic there is surrounding it.
I always love a good theory.
Maybe THAT’S where “Catarina” comes from?!?!?
Holyshit ps1 ac looks so much better in my memories.
Know that feeling =)
is it fair to assume that in ac 6 pretty much everyone has a form of human plus, with the gens of augmentation being the corresponding level of human plus?
Anyone with a coral augmentation, yes it is very fair to say they are HP basically.
So basically Cyber Newtype and Alaya Vijnana System
I am not to sure on gundam lore. so forgive me if i am wrong. However from my understanding new types are born that way so more like the AMS of AC4 AND for answer while the other system is an operation that can be done but is deadly like human plus and now augmented humans in ac6.
And GUND System in Witch from Mercury.
@@armoredcorelore Alaya-Vijyana is pretty much note for note Human PLUS. A surgery that meshes humans with mobile suit technology. What makes it dangerous is that the initial surgery can only be done to children and it has to "grow" with you.
A more extreme case that's in line with Human PLUS's debilitating side effects is Ein Dalton. He ended up getting his body crushed in a battle and had his torso installed into a machine made specifically to mimic the human body just so his brain would be able to recognize it as his own. His own body is basically just a vegetable in a bio fluid-submerged cockpit module that can't move or express any emotion. Instead, everything comes out of the mobile suit itself, both his voice and body language
What a coincidence. I had to stop the video at 2.52 . Shocking to say the least 😮
You a rebel! >_
@@Kirby-Krios that I am 😎
Excuse me but I have a sudden urge to destroy things
Lol I see you playing with that widescreen hack
I did luckily fixed it in later videos.
@@armoredcorelore Great videos nonetheless, I was lucky to have found it pretty early when I played
@@liviekumori Thank you, i admit emulating was new to me at the time so it was a case of me playing with everything till i broke it ha ha.
@@armoredcorelore Yeah, that's how we all learn eventually lol
Human Plus is renamed as "Augmented Human" in Armored Core VI Fires of Rubicon.
It is and its evolved past simple being one thing we now have generations all the way up to generation ten.
Bro, human plus don't make any sense to me, like on paper is a cool idea, but how can a surgery on the pilot affect the robot, because if you see the benefits from human plus (being able to shot shoulder weapon while walking, more boost power, new grid radar, etc...) they look more like a upgrade to the ac than a surgery benefit
True and in game it very hard to show this. As in lore human plus was given to body guards as well so they'd more strength, better vison if we could have seen this in action i feel it would have made hp that much more understandable.
In truth Hp is more about becoming more machine then man for ac pilot, so when they are able to use a grid radar that is because they have had thier eyes swapped out for computers so really the ac is getting an upgrade, the pilot acts as another part of the ac allowing it access to this function.
Power in misery
Another great video! You have my wholehearted support!
However I have a small suggestion: Can you try to speak slower and more deliberate? Sometime your words are slurred together and really hard to understand. It's a shame since all these videos are so well researched and well written.
Thank you and i will speak slower to avoid this. Thank you again for the feedback.
@@armoredcorelore you are amazing! Keep up the good work😊
Ac game is in ps vita an you can port ac 2 H+ to last raven
nice :)
HP in a nutshell really.
Cover Losvaize next maybe?
I'll think about it.
Oh, a 21-year old who looks like a 12-year old?
And she can't speak?
I'm sure that character was only made with the purest of intentions...🙄
Yeah but same couldn’t be the character we play as c4-621 basically a meat bag have it’s consciousness to transferred into our AC
@@kevingame3198 what
@@lillyclarity9699 have you seen the story trailer of armored core 6 and see what I mean
All man I am so confused.
Honestly Huitzilo, i would not worry too much. These videos are just for fun and you most likely won't need them to understand what is going on in ac6. However I'm happy to help if i can.
skill issue mode
7:15 bruh that’s essentially a 12 year old
Did you even read the manga?
@@AnatoliasAce3341 no. Did you watch the video?
@@nickwilliams5369 Yes, I did. Catarina is physically 12 because of the Human PLUS enhancements, but is in actuality 21. And yes, I did read the manga.
@@AnatoliasAce3341 yeah so a loli
@@nickwilliams5369 Really? Really? Is that all you can think of when you see Catarina?
AC Nexus Revolution disc have extended info on Human Plus, especially when you take mission & fight alongside Wild Cat. (One of the best missions, imo). Revolution disc also have other expanded AC 1st gen lores & infos.
Also my criticism & feedback on this video:
1st, the text box on mail & mission briefing are really bugged, I assume its because the emulator settings.
2nd, some of images because its forced to fit on screen, like example the Murakumo Millennium's emblem are too stretched. Its looks too jarring.
It does you are correct, however due to my limit time this week i was not able to squeeze it in, but i will not make that mistake again. Yes you are right and now i can work on them both to make the next video even better. But as always thank you for your feedback.
I think that the corps may be lying about the experiment making the subjects crazy but the subjects regretted the experments and the corps didnt want loose ends.
Anything possible in ac.
Hey so i still own this game and never ended up likeing it decades ago i still remember never being to get passed an oil rig mission so is this game worth anything. Ive had it in its case for years
Sure, may i suggest you have a look on ebay and other sites to get a feel of what its worth now.