most honkai bosses are fun cuz of the different mechanics but sometimes i forgot that genshin doesn’t have evasion skill and end up dying even with a strong team💀
honkai characters like 90% of their moveset have i-frame and also most of it can't be interrupted so it's almost impossible for you to get staggered. Meanwhile, genshin characters barely have any i-frame and you can get wrecked easily lol
@@michaelbooster2 Not really, in a lot of SSS arena bosses its so easy to die, the most vs that machine or hephasteus, they do a lot of dmg that if you got a hit, you got stunned and 3 hits more you are done, also there is not heal (except for elf with 25 sec cd)
@@michaelbooster2 umm my guy, genshin with the correct artifact build and character, you can make a team comp that literally cannot get staggered, and can just smash without caring about enemy attack. Not just Honkai, you can do that too in genshin, there is a guide on youtube iirc.
@@josedg8193 They do high dmg but that doesn't matter if they can't hit you. For example, i usually use HoH when fighting hepha, barely got any hit since you're almost invincible when you're in her herrscher mode. Another example is when i fight dudu i usually use HoT, she almost never stun me since i always use charge atk or wep skill before the stun bar is full so she failed to stun me because i-frame. It's so easy to i-frame in honkai compared to genshin
@@thetcaseaway4306 i'm guessing you can smash enemies without worrying about being staggered only if you have shield characters like zhongli right? That's the thing you need a shield char to make your team invincible from getting staggered, without it you either need to be good at dodging or use i-frame (but most i-frame are in burst, rarely in their skill). Meanwhile most characters in honkai can easily i-frame, you can use almost any team comp and still be invincible from enemy hits
Genshin boss fights as a well seasoned player is like Cutting butter with a knife while Honkai bosses is like trying to break metal with sticks while there's a time limit
@@nemubenzene9138 Adam is literally the strongest character in APHO in terms of damage and with a set up that give you a lot of SP and the twin module you are basically gonna delete any enemy you encounter
As a Genshin player, when I first started playing Honkai and fought the giant robot in the Wendy chapter... I was so frustrated and kept dying. It felt like fighting a ruin hunter/guard for the first time.
I mean, Wotan (the giant robot) shoots a laser to us and his hands at our sides, making it a bit imposible to dodge💀 (you can outrun the laser with the ultimate evasion time breach)
Oracle is legendary, Honestly there has never been anything that has passed it, The chill, the Voice, The tune, The build up It's all done so goddamn perfectly I legit wanted to fight the boss longer because of it
So true bro,i seriously wish they would continue the apho storyline , and even though this boss was more visually fun to play,i still liked the boss fight with 'the World 'more it gives me goosebumps every single time and I've lost count how many Times I've watched it
Not gonna lie, genshin bosses are kinda annoying sometimes, like you just run and dodge around and try to hit em until they die. Meanwhile honkai has like mechanics to it that keeps the player active, I fully understand that genshin also has it but its mostly a mechanism that made you stress about doing it on time while dodging and hoping that you actually did it so the boss didn't restart.
The only boss that annoys me is the Chasm worm and the chicken. And then there are the lawachurls, one shoting my 35k HP Bennett. Not bosses, but annoying as hell.😭
@@nemubenzene9138 I dropped Genshin long before getting to any boss (dunno if flower thing counts), but there is very annoying flying cubes that requires specific elemental damage after you remove it's HP bar, otherwise it heals to full, like wtf, even IMG enemies in Honkai doesn't require specific damage type to break their cores. Not to saying that fighting flying enemies on mobile is frustruating itself.
@Vertx Solido bro, elysian realm now a days are pretty easy, with new valks and other powerful weapons I can finishes it fast, unless your talking about before the neft then I don't understand.
WAHAHHAHAHAHA THE "DANCE" WITH ELYSIA! I thought it was a dance not that kind of "dance". I barely reached Kevin's signet and then died miserably. Had to do 3 times if my memory was right 🤣.
@@sergiobejaranoolivera1396 Both are pretty dang amazing (Ellie base form can be annoying tho) Herrscher of Human/Origin is definitely one of the best “fights” for me imo. It’s very beautiful as in they are reliving the dance from Previous Era. The fight overall is a little challenging, but not to the point where it’s borderline insane. The fight is also visually appealing and pretty, fitting for the Flawless Human. It’s definitely the 2nd best fight of Season 1, and overall one of the best fights I’ve done in a video game (Along with Sweetheart, Breadtwins, Basil, Omori from OMORI, and Alternate Knight, Beth, Mk.2, Priscilla/Belial from Guardian Tales, etc.) Edit: I forgot to include some fights from Punishing Gray Raven Oop 😔✊
Genshin bosses are getting more and more toward "showcasing big pp damage when they're on their most vulnerable" Honkai bosses meanwhile getting more and more toward "in between phase that overly long and test your skill to the max"
Yes i got one shot by simp nun in old ER ahh my trauma i just got to 5 or 6? floor and my buff RNG is shit then she appear when i first met her i think what meh just kallen then i miss my dodge and got hit and boom i fking die my face go WTF HAPPEN?? WTF I JUST GOT HIT ONCE!
Yea because they're much faster and less telegraphed or just harder to see in general as hey zip around you. But those are the most fun cuz' it feels like a dance. Big bosses are usually slow easy to predict but hit like a meteor. so don't get hit and it's easy.
Just wait for Genshin players while playing Honkai meets the most annoying, stressful and the scariest (most of the time) bosses in HI3: *_The Nihilius bosses_*
@@hissaigokagemusha3086 Nihilus husk from 5.0 Elysian Realm at 80+ difficulty is pain. I had HoF with maxed PRI and still barelly finish him in time. 18 bars of HP wide attacks with huge sword, he rolls and swings around combat area like a fly delayed AOE attacks with IMG rings distraction minions IMG trauma that nullifies your healing, sp regen and make you take alot more damage "secret" second phase with invincibility and rapid HP regen while you dodging huge swords spining and covering whole area and trying to destroy gears as fast as possible to prevent regen and finally you need destroy regenerated HP while he attacks you as normal And you have exactly two and a half minutes (2:30) of pure suffering to beat him. I wish they return this kind of cancer back, because it really a challenge and not boring DPS check as many other bosses in honkai are.
@@raibyo Minimal requirements for the Bull Nihilius: Herrscher of Flamescion with her signature weapon of course or a DPS who can switch between Single to AOE DMG quickly. *_Pretty easy_* 🥶
Genshin bosses looks very cool but they die too quickly because they're made for casuals. Dvalin bossfight is just sad, he looks so strong but dies in 6-7 hits, it's really a shame they don't buff him. Andrius is only difficult for early game players, once you know his pattern or get a healer, he will be much easier. Childe despite his insane riptide damage that can shred shields quickly, has an easy to dodge pattern, you don't even have to run to dodge his arrows. Azdaha is very troublesome for players who doesn't have shield/strong healer characters, he has a good difficulty spike between phases thanks to his increasingly absurd attack patterns which are sometimes undodgeable, however that doesn't really matter because he needs to kill you 4 times before you kill him (you guys should try fighting him with solo character, it's pretty fun). Signora is just eh, she's not exactly easy but not hard either, she's just annoying with her "floor is lava" Mechanic and cold/hot bar, she's trying to outlast you but too bad, again, you have 4 lifes. Raiden boss is quite fun admittedly, she's insanely hard if you don't know her patterns, which is what i seek the most in bossfights. If it weren't for the fact that healers and shielders exist, she would be a pretty amazing boss that you simply can't sweep easily every week. Scaramouche is more focused on battle mechanics which is quite nice, but once you take down his shield you have pretty much won the battle, he will barely offer any resistance after that, his hp is also dissapointingly low for a giant robot.
@@dandicandi4502 f2p players with decent investment and right team comp (not bring an electro main dps into a boss with high electro resist for example) can kill every boss without too much dificulty imo, you can also choose the dificulty of the boss if you think your team is not strong enough.
This is too accurate with my experiences with those boss fights. I have to admit that even if I love Scara as he’s my favorite character, his boss fight was kind of a disappointment with it’s difficulty, feels easy for especially people that are AR 50+ and have already well built characters. I just want something that has a good balance of being hard and enjoyable. I get the feeling they maybe catering to people that were possibly complaining of how difficult the bosses were early on.
I might not like Genshin fights, but I always keep them interesting by just using a Noelle, Keqing, Collei, and Sangonomiya combo or Noelle based teams just to make the fight feel like an actual Honkai Experience. And even then I still struggle in Honkai way more than I had with Genshin and that speaks alot with my gameplay for Genshin. As in Honkai my perfect thunder team(All FCs team comps are almost so broken tbh) is not enough in certain fights, despite the fact that certain bosses are pretty much easy to solo like Nihilius Husk with only Aponia.
the improvment pattern skill between boss "code XXI - the world" (APHO 1) and boss "code XXVI - lucheni" (APHO 2) really sick! hope next apho will beat sky people within all squad member xD
I really wanted a fun boss to fight in Genshin. Right now the closest to it is Raiden shogun because you have to dodge and jump, attack totems, find the real one when she splits. But still thats like, the only boss I actually enjoy fighting. I would really like to see harder/more fun to fight bosses with many mechanics.
Dodging to fight that Tower boss was a PAIN IN THE A** for me bc my phone quite lagging.. but overall that fight IS EPIC. And those jumping and backflip animations in between of the fight? Cool af bc it depends on the characters youre using, not Adam specifically. BUT i truly wanna try playing Genshin bc those running and dodging and running and elemental stuffs etc look fun asf
you are the calmest genshin and honkai comparer i have seen on this platform, and also kudos to you for having the calmest genshin and honkai comparing video comment section as well.
Genshin boss fights feel like a bit of a fair 1 on 1 while honkai always nails the "yeah, you're just humans against gods... but your adaptability becomes your weapon"
Having Oracle in the background just gave me actual MC moment (cause I always use Adam in APHO 1 and 2) There are two types of honkai music (all honkai games) One that gives you hope, that you can and will defeat your enemy, save your friends, save the world. And one that straight up gives you depression and ptsd
Honkai bosses can be really scary with bosses, genshin it’s like “oh I died, well good thing I have steak and chicken and bennett and no I’m not eating Bennett” or “zhongli exists”. Meanwhile honkai apho is like the bosses are scary as fuk
Zhongli was my first ever five star ever so I never dodged in my life, not in Genshin at least and then I came to honkai like a year ago and I gotta say it’s significantly improved my dodging skills 😭
It’s true that it takes more than ten minutes to attack the cores of Lucheni if you follow the normal, guided path. But you can SKIP Most of the gimmiks. It can be beaten in 1minutes lol.(gamepad is needed) Even without gamepad, it needs only 90 sec(smartphone ver).
@@nemubenzene9138 I hope this isn’t automatically deleted. Skip to the final phase and use mei’s charge in burst mode. There is a video took by the fastest player in JP server. Check “走るxめろすxの倉庫”channel. The video is posted in it.(I shouldn’t send the url because it might be the key of auto comment deleting AI) There are two points in the chart. • infinite jump(adam charge cancel) invented by “Yumegiwa”, the famous player and the author of official 4-koma comic in JP server. • passing “area restriction(invisible barrier)” (Bronya’s ult 1) invented by the 2nd place player of JP server.
One time... I glitched into the ground floor while fighting husk... While using Bronya silver wing... I thought I'll be easy since it auto aim but I was completely wrong 🗿 end up falling into a deep void and yet to think about leave the game Reason why: dodge to much
it also depends on how the game wants you to play, try to look up PGR boss fights, you big or not, they are hard, only when you are not familiarize on their moves, but I think, Genshin and Honkai do their best, everything has room for improvement
In honkai, we dodge so as not to be interrupted. We do the same thing in PGR... Except if we don't dodge, we'll die in like, 3-4 hits... If lucky. Lol DAMN YOU ROLAND!
@@ledf2012 Well genshin wasn't a combat game to begin with so it explains that but damn dude PGR on my phone had me sweating. I heard they are also planning to release a PC version in the future
That battle in APHO 2 reminded me of the hard time I had to fought the giant statue known as 'The Savior' in DMC4. Fighting him was a workout when I didn't know about DT Distortion🗿
When fighting lucheni... It's actually easy to dodge and fight but because my phone, the frame dropped and you know what happen:") I wish i could had a better phone at that time so i didn't had to struggle to fight it...
Dam... When i fight luceni, something that i tough as last boss room is actually its main body... That time i was like "dam, my phone gonna die first before this this boss😳"
Wait till genshin Players meet the two types of Nihilus Heimdall Hephaestus and cyclone at floor 12 Elysian realm Elysia in her own realm Benares before elysian realm 2.0(the one who keeps flying)
I love the variant cutscenes of APHO characters getting die or in a quick time event based on what character youre playing as right now when fighting lucheni
Well, a shame that Genshin is aimed for casuals, but if it wasn't and they took the same path as Honkai with bosses, I'm sure it won't be as popular as right now because of too much stress it gives even for hardcore players. I'm a former Dragon Nest player, which is harder than Honkai in terms of mechanics and dodging so it was pretty easy for me to adjust to the bosses I encounter in Honkai such as what this video has shown. Genshin is too easy for me but I think that's also the reason why I stuck with it. It gives me relief whenever I play it rather than adding stress to the already stressful everyday life. My reason might actually be the same for most casuals out there, hence might also be the reason for Genshin's popularity.
I swear to God, I'm a veteran Honkai player (2018 gang), and Tower traumatized my ass. I spent all of my never used before 42 resurrection Syringes AND still LOST on my First run. Specially cuz doing it First time, dialogue distracts you a lot. Had to repeat It to finally kill him. But that meant 1 hour long fight, half an hour each try. My PC was crying and sweating and almost melting inside. To this day, I still haven't tried him again. That said, I was 20 levels underleveled, but didn't notice until afterwards hahaha. I accumulated missions and binged the last part of the story, instead of doing the missions as the parts are released. So I didn't notice the jump in level requirements after 3 consecutive missions (namely from exploring the second map of APHO2 for the First time in the story, finding Void Archives to killing him and then killing Tower)
Lmao in our weeklies we fight the Abyss bosses but with a lot more HP (like Ely, 200million HP, other final bosses have more HP). But we get 500 crystals weekly by doing that😳 (Edit: 500 crystals is a single pull lmao, 280 xtals is the cost of a single pull)
This is actually a story boss, while most of Genshin big boss are weekly ones. Regular bosses in Honkai are meant to beaten within 5 minutes, often much less, like 2 or 3 if you're good. APHO bosses and story bosses with a "hard" setting can take upwards of 8 minutes, between multiple phases, transitions, reaction command sequences and the fights themselves. Lucheni is probably the most extreme example but other standouts include the God Otto story battle or the battles against HoS.
And Elysian Realm is for farming materials/crystals once a week, yet they put Husk Nihilus in there, not even talking about the Flame Chaser we need to beat to get the whole 500 xtals💀
My Lee once got One shot'd by a priest robot mob, I was like "what💀" Then Alpha proceeded to one shot them with her ult cus no one is allowed to kill my Lee.
Imo Apho 1 was the only difficult part in Honkai. You barely have any Iframes and and contrary to Apho 2 you have a severe lack of Sp during your fights...as well as no healing. That underground trainstation gauntlet was pretty difficult since you didn‘t get healed all throughout the thing. And the World at level 20 leaves very little room for error as well. Apho was paced so you were easily overleveled when Luceni was ready to be fought and you have access to so many chips that you can just white heat ult spam your way to victory, basicly like chain-Q in genshin.
true. i feel like apho 1 is the biggest skill check in honkai. but once you've gotten used to the mechanics, apho 1 became somewhat easy with timing your attacks. oddly enough, a qte spam team works in apho 1 to stagger most enemies. from there, you just gotta maintain the stagger and dont let them recover.
To be honest, you can literally win scaramouche with zhongli and Amber if you have the time. Or literally one shot him on phase 2 with a well-built team. Just felt like Dvalin but with slightly more Effort
Judgement Falls... Ugh, this boss... idk how to describe this one. It's fucking annoying. It has so many stuffs we need to break. It hits like a fucking Mecha it was. And yet, it was so fun fighting it...! I guess Honkai had conditioned me into a masochist lol
This comment section is odd to me because I quit Honkai for Genshin. I could always win with a basic understanding of HI3’s mechanics by mashing buttons, so it felt too easy. Genshin is also easy, but it’s open world so you can spend a lot of time with your favorite characters just relaxing and has a more interesting story imo.
@@nemubenzene9138 you can win by pressing random buttons but some content needs you to be strategic about your timing and pressing like Nirvana- or MA. But of course you need to know what those random buttons do so he probably did not describe his playstyle correctly
nah man 💀 go breakthrough and feel what hell feels like in Nirvana its hard to kill the bosses if your supports are not fully geared (trying to kill the clock for the first time was hard) and if you want a top score you need to have full gear and keep restarting until the boss finally cooperates 😭😭
tis was actually easy, i mean his attacks are so slow you can prob dodge the optional flying crow witch boss with scissor hands was actually harder lol (especially in part 1, part 2 youre stronger) or just that fat dude (final boss) in part 1 lol (also doesent matter how long it takes, genshin bosses are meant to be weekly, where honkai bosses are meant to be beaten once)
I'm also an artist. Musical, writer, and in drawings. And I love Genshin's graphics, yeah, BUT I really fell for Honkai for the story well written, the cinematics, the short animations, the music, the art whenever an event or update happens, the model of the Valkyries, everything.
@@Bstrdmn 2 years former Honkai player, 1.5 year currently Genshin player Still have Honkai on my device and occasionally log in, Honkai has its own beauty but Genshin has something I personally found more genius: tradition/culture x modern hybrid designs, world & music. Not only it hits home with the traditions but easily approached with the moderns.
Hard for me. On the one hand, I love my sci-fi and Bronya is just *chef's kiss. But as a coherent product as a whole, I'm gonna say the pieces fit together much nicely in Genshin. Problem is that the design is a bit disjointed in Honkai because we have everything from when miHoYo was a smaller, less experienced studio to the giant they are now. Early Honkai was very copy paste (as were most 3D gacha games at the time) and they've become more artistic and detailed as the years went on. But their early stuff is still clearly there in the game. I also feel they are still limited in their development environment. Their new open-worlds (fields), while better, are still kinda in the same ballpark as Sakura Samsara. I would really like it if Honkai was rebuilt from the ground up using the team's current experience and tools. Even in Genshin, you can see how much experience has carried them. Especially when you compare Sumeru to previous regions. And we can only expect Fontaine, Natlan, and Snezhnaya to be even more insane. Not to mention we are still expecting expansions to Liyue (north) and Mondstadt (Dandelion Sea).
Lucheni bossfight was The Best Bossfight i had ever played on a honkai game same tier as chapter 1 Boss in hsr Lucheni Bossfight really made me tear of how amazing it was
The Husk Nihilus phase, yeah, we all got to that one day. But you'll learn his patterns and dodge them, then it'll l still be hard but not that hard lmao
@@meiichus it can negate your whole shield and hp( no regeneration and can't heal ) to literally one 1 hitting you in the end. It is calls "IMG Tainted " annoying debuff from him once the tainted bar is full. Even HOF, strongest shield valk in honkai is nothing to that debuff. There are like 3 or 4 of Nihilus Husk types in the game and each one are complete different mechanic.
Haven't fought HoV in your life? She teleports like her life depends on it, because it does😭 Same with Kalpas, Kosma, Tonatiuh SSS, Benares SSS, HoD sometimes, Otto teleports at the exact time to dodge my PE ultimate💀
Ngl Scara weekly boss was a big letdown for me after Raiden puppet weekly, since that had phase changes without a cutscene. It's still my favorite weekly fight. As for HI3, yeah it has the better boss fights.
As a genshin player i wanted more chaotic fights like honkai, i only fight Raiden/Scaramouche on co-op cuz it's fun to see ppl go crazy over simple pattern boss moves and die
As a DMC player, when I saw the floating boss, my mind was like "Savior? I already scrapped you in DMC4:SE~" then I saw a cannon you need hit so it can stun him and I'm like "Yep, definitely Savior, nice one mihoyo~"~
Im not really too invested in the open world/story stuff of honkai, cuz genshin is already large enough for me to explore, so I didnt know about this boss until clicking your video, absolutely died looking at the scale of that lad compared to Scara. Dude is a childe (heh) next to the brick boi
I can say that, as long as you have meta gear, artifacts, stigmatas in both games, you'll clear everything without a problem. HI3rd and Genshin requires some lvl of skill and understanding of mechanics, because they to some extent RPG based games. But it's nothing alike DMC, MGR, Bayonetta, where pure skill needed to perform flawlessly. So, as with everything, understanding comes with time.
Honkai Bosses are more Cinematic than Genshin,, the QTE, Cutscene and the Music, those what makes naruto Storm Series Good, and they applied that to Honkai as well, you can see that later boss fight has more combat mechanic variety and much2 better Cutscene
As a guy who only play honkai for story, don't even mention how soft the story in genshin is, i mean there's still people who can't accept signora death, and in honkai death is death
Honestly, APHO feels completely different from Genshin. Genshin feels too build/character based for me (I be suffering fighting enemies because I play characters I want to). APHO feels more responsive on mobile for me than Genshin does on console, it feels like a chess match; APHO enemies and bosses feel, fair, engaging, and like they belong. Genshin polarizes me with their enemy design. An example of this is elite samurai. They aren't vulnerable leaving their elemental forms, and heal if one of a pair dies. Haven't done APHO Chapter 2 but I will soon.
Well, I am not a good gamer. I don't have a problem admitting that, I am not good. I tried Honkai and I failed and I am sure if I invested a lot of time into it, I could get better for sure. But I don't have the time, lol. As a casual and not very good gamer I am thankful Genshin bosses aren't really hard, ngl
I'm actually glad of that, cus I don't play Genshin that much for the fights. I only go there for the music or chilling with the people in coop. It's way funnier than fighting a boss 15 minutes.
@@nemubenzene9138 same. I like it when Characters are fun to play like Kazuha or the Wanderer or something, but the atmosphere and story is what I am here for. If I had to go through a 5 week training arc to beat a boss like Dvalin, I would have most likely stopped playing a long time ago.
Exactly. The only thing keeping genshin bring "better" than honkai is graphics. Even then honkai isn't horrible graphics, just less detailed because they focus on combat, not overworld 😅😅
Except they haven't in the 2 years since Genshin has been out. It's understandable why, they would have to probably change things at a foundation level to optimize the game with enhanced graphics. But obviously if Honkai has survived this long (and still making money) without Genshin graphics, why would they need to upgrade? I feel they may be wrapping up Honkai in the next few years and are probably pooling their resources into another instalment that utilizes all of their new tools and technologies. It would be too much of a headache to try and implement them now. They probably thought it might be better just to make another instalment rather than trying to update the current game live.
Forget about the long stamina bars and mechanics stuff, the feelings of achievement defeating a Honkai boss gives you are different. Not to mention the ambient and the soundtrack. When there's a boss Honkai screams you're moving up in the game!! Haven't played Genshin but I'm willing to bet defeating a boss there will feel just like another Tuesday.
And the fact that old honkai story bosses...it has no choice difficulty, whereas todays chapter bosses starting from (whatever chapter kolosten was cuz that where i first saw difficulty choices)..i dont even know how hard or easy honkai bosses are since i was so used to dying on first attempt and succeeding on second attempt. it was fun, can guarantee you that though tldr: basically we had single difficulty (aside from MA and Abyss) for story bosses
I think that genshin's combat would improve a lot of you had more I-frames and dodging didn't consume stamina. I think it just doesn't make sense to make the stamina recover so slowly in a combat that can go for easily 5 minutes, making you unable to position or even taking hits for being unable to dodge
See now we are seeing reasons why the combat in Genshin is mid. Honkai did it well, but in Genshin they never added those mechanics that made Honkai engaging and fun. In Genshin assuming you're not getting hit all you do is mash buttons. In Honkai you can time perfect dodges, QTEs, and time combos so you're not mashing as much because you gotta time your presses and hope to not get interrupted and are actually able to dance with the bosses. It's a lot of fun!
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most honkai bosses are fun cuz of the different mechanics but sometimes i forgot that genshin doesn’t have evasion skill and end up dying even with a strong team💀
honkai characters like 90% of their moveset have i-frame and also most of it can't be interrupted so it's almost impossible for you to get staggered. Meanwhile, genshin characters barely have any i-frame and you can get wrecked easily lol
@@michaelbooster2 Not really, in a lot of SSS arena bosses its so easy to die, the most vs that machine or hephasteus, they do a lot of dmg that if you got a hit, you got stunned and 3 hits more you are done, also there is not heal (except for elf with 25 sec cd)
@@michaelbooster2 umm my guy, genshin with the correct artifact build and character, you can make a team comp that literally cannot get staggered, and can just smash without caring about enemy attack. Not just Honkai, you can do that too in genshin, there is a guide on youtube iirc.
@@josedg8193 They do high dmg but that doesn't matter if they can't hit you. For example, i usually use HoH when fighting hepha, barely got any hit since you're almost invincible when you're in her herrscher mode. Another example is when i fight dudu i usually use HoT, she almost never stun me since i always use charge atk or wep skill before the stun bar is full so she failed to stun me because i-frame. It's so easy to i-frame in honkai compared to genshin
@@thetcaseaway4306 i'm guessing you can smash enemies without worrying about being staggered only if you have shield characters like zhongli right? That's the thing you need a shield char to make your team invincible from getting staggered, without it you either need to be good at dodging or use i-frame (but most i-frame are in burst, rarely in their skill). Meanwhile most characters in honkai can easily i-frame, you can use almost any team comp and still be invincible from enemy hits
Genshin boss fights as a well seasoned player is like Cutting butter with a knife while Honkai bosses is like trying to break metal with sticks while there's a time limit
Accurate af metaphor😭
this is me @ forbidden abyss... the time limit aint it
So true
theres time limit?
Redlotus rank be like
omg the Honkai fight... I was not ready for how long it was, but my dodge game for that was on point
Same💀
I was just like "HOW LONG IS THIS FIGHT??? HELP"
And then my whole team died but Adam carried me all the fight after that.
@@nemubenzene9138 Adam is literally the strongest character in APHO in terms of damage and with a set up that give you a lot of SP and the twin module you are basically gonna delete any enemy you encounter
@@nemubenzene9138 not sure if my potato phone can handle this
Lucky you I finished at 35 mins 💀💀💀
@@weebslegacy i feel like mei with the augment for unlimited combo atk after QTE hits harder with the dash attack she has
As a Genshin player, when I first started playing Honkai and fought the giant robot in the Wendy chapter...
I was so frustrated and kept dying. It felt like fighting a ruin hunter/guard for the first time.
I mean, Wotan (the giant robot) shoots a laser to us and his hands at our sides, making it a bit imposible to dodge💀 (you can outrun the laser with the ultimate evasion time breach)
@@nemubenzene9138 true true
When u reach the higher levels, wotan is easy😂
@@missycho_2424 I'm a noob sry
Easy af honkai still too easy and im fucked up with PGR one
I get chills when I hear _HI3_ 's tracks in-game. But especially _Oaths_ and _Oracle_ .
It's the feelings.
Me too.😭
Oracle is too damn good, but every song is too damn good, I even get excited to hear Befall in lambda Ai event
Oracle is legendary,
Honestly there has never been anything that has passed it, The chill, the Voice, The tune, The build up
It's all done so goddamn perfectly I legit wanted to fight the boss longer because of it
_Replays Nightglow_
So true bro,i seriously wish they would continue the apho storyline , and even though this boss was more visually fun to play,i still liked the boss fight with 'the World 'more it gives me goosebumps every single time and I've lost count how many Times I've watched it
And then, there's Kallen, who is smol, but has 100% Elemental Resist
Like, If you wanna fight her with a Herrscher that's not HoS, you deal literally no damage.💀
@@nemubenzene9138 HOV'S TIME TO SHINE
at long last she's technically an option
@@bernardo8993 I just use White Comet.
@@bernardo8993 nah mate. Just use her Sundenjaeger and still somehow win.
@@nemubenzene9138 You're not gonna do HoV dirty like that.
me: how different of hardcore between genshin and honkai?
my friend: a little
his little:
From 3 minutes of fight, to 15 minutes💀
Then Honkai just flashbang us every 0.5 seconds when fighting😭
@@nemubenzene9138 I swear there is enemy in this bunch of number
Not gonna lie, genshin bosses are kinda annoying sometimes, like you just run and dodge around and try to hit em until they die.
Meanwhile honkai has like mechanics to it that keeps the player active, I fully understand that genshin also has it but its mostly a mechanism that made you stress about doing it on time while dodging and hoping that you actually did it so the boss didn't restart.
The only boss that annoys me is the Chasm worm and the chicken.
And then there are the lawachurls, one shoting my 35k HP Bennett. Not bosses, but annoying as hell.😭
@@nemubenzene9138 I dropped Genshin long before getting to any boss (dunno if flower thing counts), but there is very annoying flying cubes that requires specific elemental damage after you remove it's HP bar, otherwise it heals to full, like wtf, even IMG enemies in Honkai doesn't require specific damage type to break their cores. Not to saying that fighting flying enemies on mobile is frustruating itself.
@@jcdenton2819 its not specific elemental dmg to kill it. its anything other than that element
@Vertx Solido bro, elysian realm now a days are pretty easy, with new valks and other powerful weapons I can finishes it fast, unless your talking about before the neft then I don't understand.
@@cardboard.5126 Well maybe he meant Elysia boss herself, that is quite malding on Finality.
And there’s also the flame chaser fights, mainly the “dance” with Elysia
But that would count as a normal form boss, not big like Lucheni/Scara.
But I'm gonna make a video about the weeklies of Honkai vs Genshin anyways.😀
WAHAHHAHAHAHA THE "DANCE" WITH ELYSIA! I thought it was a dance not that kind of "dance". I barely reached Kevin's signet and then died miserably. Had to do 3 times if my memory was right 🤣.
Elysia's fight was cool, Mobius was easy, aponia was amazing and kalpas was the definition of fear xD
Kalpas literally ragdolls you
@@sergiobejaranoolivera1396 Both are pretty dang amazing
(Ellie base form can be annoying tho)
Herrscher of Human/Origin is definitely one of the best “fights” for me imo. It’s very beautiful as in they are reliving the dance from Previous Era. The fight overall is a little challenging, but not to the point where it’s borderline insane. The fight is also visually appealing and pretty, fitting for the Flawless Human. It’s definitely the 2nd best fight of Season 1, and overall one of the best fights I’ve done in a video game (Along with Sweetheart, Breadtwins, Basil, Omori from OMORI, and Alternate Knight, Beth, Mk.2, Priscilla/Belial from Guardian Tales, etc.)
Edit: I forgot to include some fights from Punishing Gray Raven Oop 😔✊
First APHO boss fight
me: "it's story boss, can't be that hard"
few minutes later:
*visible screaming
Ah yes The world. If you don't know his mechanic you are total dead meat .
That's why I liked that boss so much
i hated literally every apho 1 enemy. apho 2 was easy because timido is so good
@@fizzyjam the life without timido be like 😆 XD.
@@saimyintmyat9373 literally, she was my complete focus when leveling
Genshin bosses are getting more and more toward "showcasing big pp damage when they're on their most vulnerable"
Honkai bosses meanwhile getting more and more toward "in between phase that overly long and test your skill to the max"
I swear, the boss that has the same size with us is literally the hardest than the boss with big size
MHT-Nirvana is the boss I suffer the most. And Nirvana is just as tall as 1½ Eden.💀
@@nemubenzene9138 im getting chills whenever i see that boss’ name😅😅🥲🥲
Yes i got one shot by simp nun in old ER ahh my trauma i just got to 5 or 6? floor and my buff RNG is shit then she appear when i first met her i think what meh just kallen then i miss my dodge and got hit and boom i fking die my face go WTF HAPPEN?? WTF I JUST GOT HIT ONCE!
True story with that nun💀💀 she one shot me (everytime)
Yea because they're much faster and less telegraphed or just harder to see in general as hey zip around you. But those are the most fun cuz' it feels like a dance. Big bosses are usually slow easy to predict but hit like a meteor. so don't get hit and it's easy.
Just wait for Genshin players while playing Honkai meets the most annoying, stressful and the scariest (most of the time) bosses in HI3:
*_The Nihilius bosses_*
some guys tell 'put kallen nun as boss on genshin', 'put husk nihillus on genshin'.
But, there's no need.
Just send back boreas. "Honkai" Boreas.
@@hissaigokagemusha3086 Nihilus husk from 5.0 Elysian Realm at 80+ difficulty is pain. I had HoF with maxed PRI and still barelly finish him in time.
18 bars of HP
wide attacks with huge sword, he rolls and swings around combat area like a fly
delayed AOE attacks with IMG rings
distraction minions
IMG trauma that nullifies your healing, sp regen and make you take alot more damage
"secret" second phase with invincibility and rapid HP regen while you dodging huge swords spining and covering whole area and trying to destroy gears as fast as possible to prevent regen
and finally you need destroy regenerated HP while he attacks you as normal
And you have exactly two and a half minutes (2:30) of pure suffering to beat him.
I wish they return this kind of cancer back, because it really a challenge and not boring DPS check as many other bosses in honkai are.
And surprise surprise, Nihilus is getting 2 more Husk brothers.
@@raibyo Minimal requirements for the Bull Nihilius: Herrscher of Flamescion with her signature weapon of course or a DPS who can switch between Single to AOE DMG quickly. *_Pretty easy_* 🥶
@@hissaigokagemusha3086 particularly the SSS memorial Boreas😅😅😢😢
Genshin bosses looks very cool but they die too quickly because they're made for casuals. Dvalin bossfight is just sad, he looks so strong but dies in 6-7 hits, it's really a shame they don't buff him. Andrius is only difficult for early game players, once you know his pattern or get a healer, he will be much easier. Childe despite his insane riptide damage that can shred shields quickly, has an easy to dodge pattern, you don't even have to run to dodge his arrows. Azdaha is very troublesome for players who doesn't have shield/strong healer characters, he has a good difficulty spike between phases thanks to his increasingly absurd attack patterns which are sometimes undodgeable, however that doesn't really matter because he needs to kill you 4 times before you kill him (you guys should try fighting him with solo character, it's pretty fun). Signora is just eh, she's not exactly easy but not hard either, she's just annoying with her "floor is lava" Mechanic and cold/hot bar, she's trying to outlast you but too bad, again, you have 4 lifes. Raiden boss is quite fun admittedly, she's insanely hard if you don't know her patterns, which is what i seek the most in bossfights. If it weren't for the fact that healers and shielders exist, she would be a pretty amazing boss that you simply can't sweep easily every week. Scaramouche is more focused on battle mechanics which is quite nice, but once you take down his shield you have pretty much won the battle, he will barely offer any resistance after that, his hp is also dissapointingly low for a giant robot.
genshin boss die quickly because whale equipment or f2p farmable equipment can kill boss easily too?
Me who soloed every weeklie boss lvl90 with Qiqi💀
(Kuki joins in Scara/Raiden)
@@dandicandi4502 a decently built f2p character with 4* weapons can do that too as long as you know their team comp
@@dandicandi4502 f2p players with decent investment and right team comp (not bring an electro main dps into a boss with high electro resist for example) can kill every boss without too much dificulty imo, you can also choose the dificulty of the boss if you think your team is not strong enough.
This is too accurate with my experiences with those boss fights. I have to admit that even if I love Scara as he’s my favorite character, his boss fight was kind of a disappointment with it’s difficulty, feels easy for especially people that are AR 50+ and have already well built characters. I just want something that has a good balance of being hard and enjoyable. I get the feeling they maybe catering to people that were possibly complaining of how difficult the bosses were early on.
I might not like Genshin fights, but I always keep them interesting by just using a Noelle, Keqing, Collei, and Sangonomiya combo or Noelle based teams just to make the fight feel like an actual Honkai Experience. And even then I still struggle in Honkai way more than I had with Genshin and that speaks alot with my gameplay for Genshin. As in Honkai my perfect thunder team(All FCs team comps are almost so broken tbh) is not enough in certain fights, despite the fact that certain bosses are pretty much easy to solo like Nihilius Husk with only Aponia.
I use the old but gold Fallen Rosemary and can retain Red Lotus lmao
In Genshin...I became a Kaeya main, maybe for the lack of men in Honkai😭
I'm just distracted by Honkai background music
Always has the best quality with their songs
the improvment pattern skill between boss "code XXI - the world" (APHO 1) and boss "code XXVI - lucheni" (APHO 2) really sick! hope next apho will beat sky people within all squad member xD
ngl that fight in Honkai was hype af... until my Carole got sucket to oblivion and I was too confused to evade the next attack xD
Same💀
All my characters were abducted by that big boi😭
I really wanted a fun boss to fight in Genshin. Right now the closest to it is Raiden shogun because you have to dodge and jump, attack totems, find the real one when she splits. But still thats like, the only boss I actually enjoy fighting. I would really like to see harder/more fun to fight bosses with many mechanics.
Dodging to fight that Tower boss was a PAIN IN THE A** for me bc my phone quite lagging.. but overall that fight IS EPIC. And those jumping and backflip animations in between of the fight? Cool af bc it depends on the characters youre using, not Adam specifically.
BUT i truly wanna try playing Genshin bc those running and dodging and running and elemental stuffs etc look fun asf
you are the calmest genshin and honkai comparer i have seen on this platform, and also kudos to you for having the calmest genshin and honkai comparing video comment section as well.
Genshin boss fights feel like a bit of a fair 1 on 1 while honkai always nails the "yeah, you're just humans against gods... but your adaptability becomes your weapon"
Having Oracle in the background just gave me actual MC moment (cause I always use Adam in APHO 1 and 2)
There are two types of honkai music (all honkai games)
One that gives you hope, that you can and will defeat your enemy, save your friends, save the world.
And one that straight up gives you depression and ptsd
And one that gives us both:
Moon Halo
I feel the depression and determination to save the world every time I hear it
Honkai bosses can be really scary with bosses, genshin it’s like “oh I died, well good thing I have steak and chicken and bennett and no I’m not eating Bennett” or “zhongli exists”.
Meanwhile honkai apho is like the bosses are scary as fuk
well.... I can really say.... honkai bosses and mechanics is fun 🙂👍 I love the slowmo and sudden fast pace battle, thanks to QTE.
Apho series is the most fun ever.
Zhongli was my first ever five star ever so I never dodged in my life, not in Genshin at least and then I came to honkai like a year ago and I gotta say it’s significantly improved my dodging skills 😭
To hone and master the Art of dodging you need to play PGR.
I still stuck that my dodging skills
@@saimyintmyat9373 i agree
It’s true that it takes more than ten minutes to attack the cores of Lucheni if you follow the normal, guided path.
But you can SKIP Most of the gimmiks.
It can be beaten in 1minutes lol.(gamepad is needed)
Even without gamepad, it needs only 90 sec(smartphone ver).
How you deal that much dmg to one shot one phase? I wanna😭
@@nemubenzene9138
oh no
my reply seems to disappear just after I sent, for unknown reason. (because of youtube AI?)
@@nyaaa5385
Yt has been deleting comments on my videos lately, idk why😭
Maybe your comment was deleted as well by yt
@@nemubenzene9138
I hope this isn’t automatically deleted.
Skip to the final phase and use mei’s charge in burst mode.
There is a video took by the fastest player in JP server.
Check “走るxめろすxの倉庫”channel. The video is posted in it.(I shouldn’t send the url because it might be the key of auto comment deleting AI)
There are two points in the chart.
• infinite jump(adam charge cancel)
invented by “Yumegiwa”, the famous player and the author of official 4-koma comic in JP server.
• passing “area restriction(invisible barrier)” (Bronya’s ult 1)
invented by the 2nd place player of JP server.
@@nyaaa5385
Alright, I'll check it out😄
That boss gave me DMC 4 vibes when I got there.
And you shoot it with cannons~
Definitely DMC4 Boss Experience~
@@DianaProudmoore combine everyone and you also get dante
Lucheni is cool but I prefer code name the world in APHO1, since its phase 2 is hype af
SAME, I still go back to Apho 1 from time to time only to fight in The Verdict again.
I wish we can do that mission again since its so much fun to do
You can repeat the fight tho, in the challenges.
You can tho~
I beat the shit out of this boss like I'm fighting Savior in DMC4 when I'm out of stamina~
@@nemubenzene9138 but you cant reexperience the story cutscenes
@@FakeTier this is what i want
@@FakeTier time to reroll - hsr and memento mori
but that's not even the end...
That's the end when you try to replay Lucheni😭
They removed the internal fight in Lucheni's mind, apparently.
@@nemubenzene9138 what?! I just know it.. so, devs nerf that Lucheni?
Lucheni is also part of "I will have order" family😂😂
Nah, he just spawns black holes whenever he wants, they don't come from the sky, is from his hands. Like Goku😭
@@nemubenzene9138 now i remember. Thanks😅😅
One time... I glitched into the ground floor while fighting husk... While using Bronya silver wing... I thought I'll be easy since it auto aim but I was completely wrong 🗿 end up falling into a deep void and yet to think about leave the game
Reason why: dodge to much
And now we have phantylia....
it also depends on how the game wants you to play, try to look up PGR boss fights, you big or not, they are hard, only when you are not familiarize on their moves, but I think, Genshin and Honkai do their best, everything has room for improvement
I find Honkai bosses easy cus I also played PGR since day 1 of GLB release(left cus my phone died).
That thing in the NierxPGR kicked my ahh😭
In honkai, we dodge so as not to be interrupted.
We do the same thing in PGR... Except if we don't dodge, we'll die in like, 3-4 hits... If lucky. Lol
DAMN YOU ROLAND!
honkai got too much compared to pgr, they could put any boss from pgr in honkai and would still be easy because the newer characters got a lot of .
playing PGR and Honkai side by side is so much fun, compared to the combat and activities that didnt really evolve in Genshin
@@ledf2012 Well genshin wasn't a combat game to begin with so it explains that but damn dude PGR on my phone had me sweating. I heard they are also planning to release a PC version in the future
Seeing that boss fight in hi3 makes me remember dante vs the priest in dmc4
That battle in APHO 2 reminded me of the hard time I had to fought the giant statue known as 'The Savior' in DMC4. Fighting him was a workout when I didn't know about DT Distortion🗿
When fighting lucheni... It's actually easy to dodge and fight but because my phone, the frame dropped and you know what happen:")
I wish i could had a better phone at that time so i didn't had to struggle to fight it...
Dam... When i fight luceni, something that i tough as last boss room is actually its main body... That time i was like "dam, my phone gonna die first before this this boss😳"
sometimes i forget that genshin doesnt have the controls "j" and "k" and i end up dying on the spot
Now, we'll just wait and hopefully that Imaginary Regisvine boss in 6.3 story chapter got included in MA for the Regisvine family
Which Regisvine?😭
I only remember the Imaginary bull that's gonna be added to MA
@@nemubenzene9138 He means Husk Existentialism, the bull is Husk Mysticism btw
@@sonickunckle
Wtfff I haven't seen that one yet😳
But alright, I'm gonna search that later, thank you😉
Genshin boss: puppet emo boi with mommy issues
Honkai boss: planet devouring gigantic ancient being
Wait till genshin Players meet
the two types of Nihilus
Heimdall Hephaestus and cyclone at floor 12 Elysian realm
Elysia in her own realm
Benares before elysian realm 2.0(the one who keeps flying)
bruh the boss in apho2 almost killed my computer.
Same, I had to play that boss with the lower graphics ever just for a smooth gameplay💀
Hahahaha 98°C my cpu Lmao
I love the variant cutscenes of APHO characters getting die or in a quick time event based on what character youre playing as right now when fighting lucheni
😂 I remember fighting Lucheni with a laggy phone, it's hellish, I keep lagging causing my team to die 😆
Me when I played him first with max graphics:
I had to lower them to the LOWEST😭😭😭
what are you talking about this fight in Honkai is literally Dvalin's fight
You're onto something.
If you think Lucheni is as easy and small as Dvalin, you're worse than wrong💀
@@nemubenzene9138 I'm talking about mechanics
Well, a shame that Genshin is aimed for casuals, but if it wasn't and they took the same path as Honkai with bosses, I'm sure it won't be as popular as right now because of too much stress it gives even for hardcore players. I'm a former Dragon Nest player, which is harder than Honkai in terms of mechanics and dodging so it was pretty easy for me to adjust to the bosses I encounter in Honkai such as what this video has shown. Genshin is too easy for me but I think that's also the reason why I stuck with it. It gives me relief whenever I play it rather than adding stress to the already stressful everyday life. My reason might actually be the same for most casuals out there, hence might also be the reason for Genshin's popularity.
I literally played honkai so much that when I play genshin my whole team gets wiped out when I keep pressing the J key. 💀
LMAO SAME😭😭😭
When I log in to Genshin, I try pressing the Honkai's buttons but Genshin doesn't answer💀
Genshin bosses are still really difficult for me... especially when I do no damage
Nothing that coop cannot fix
@@nemubenzene9138 until that moment when you and your co op teammates are bad
But isn’t that like any fight game tho?
True
Bruh scara mech size like lucheni hand lmao
I mean, Aesir Heimdall (A mini Boss) is already enough to infuriate your day if you don't have the proper valk or team for it.
I hate it when i needed to fight a heimdall in small spaces cuz i have no room to dodge
I swear to God, I'm a veteran Honkai player (2018 gang), and Tower traumatized my ass.
I spent all of my never used before 42 resurrection Syringes AND still LOST on my First run. Specially cuz doing it First time, dialogue distracts you a lot. Had to repeat It to finally kill him. But that meant 1 hour long fight, half an hour each try. My PC was crying and sweating and almost melting inside.
To this day, I still haven't tried him again.
That said, I was 20 levels underleveled, but didn't notice until afterwards hahaha. I accumulated missions and binged the last part of the story, instead of doing the missions as the parts are released. So I didn't notice the jump in level requirements after 3 consecutive missions (namely from exploring the second map of APHO2 for the First time in the story, finding Void Archives to killing him and then killing Tower)
Idk... I'd rather not fight a spiral abyss level boss once a week just to get def% artifacts,2-3 boss materials and elemental colored pebbles
Lmao in our weeklies we fight the Abyss bosses but with a lot more HP (like Ely, 200million HP, other final bosses have more HP).
But we get 500 crystals weekly by doing that😳
(Edit: 500 crystals is a single pull lmao, 280 xtals is the cost of a single pull)
I hate the boss fight in apho since I suck at dodging! Also it's so satisfying using Nero 2.0 ult and the boss died, making him like motivated!
I thought I was good at dodging, then Lucheni came and all my team died but Adam💀
Rip Bronya, Mei, Timido and Carole.
@@nemubenzene9138 only carole survived for me
Skill issue💀
@@moisttowlettes6532 or severely under leveled
@@cosmiclemons6762 possible
Damn 15 minutes!? I think mihoyo can make a monster hunter game if the time to beat to bosses are this long.
This is actually a story boss, while most of Genshin big boss are weekly ones. Regular bosses in Honkai are meant to beaten within 5 minutes, often much less, like 2 or 3 if you're good. APHO bosses and story bosses with a "hard" setting can take upwards of 8 minutes, between multiple phases, transitions, reaction command sequences and the fights themselves. Lucheni is probably the most extreme example but other standouts include the God Otto story battle or the battles against HoS.
we also need to remember that genshin bosses is also for farming materials, but scara boss is just XD
And Elysian Realm is for farming materials/crystals once a week, yet they put Husk Nihilus in there, not even talking about the Flame Chaser we need to beat to get the whole 500 xtals💀
@@nemubenzene9138 ahaha true XD
Genshin really lives rent free in some of your heads, doesn't it
I mean, I play Genshin, it should be😭
That lucheni boss from apho 2 is a reallt fun experience hope they will add somtehing like that again, maybe apho 3 soon
Same, but not that big, it almost destroyed my PC
@@nemubenzene9138my phone is still fine with very low setting 🐸
All fun and games till you fight a boss in Punishing Gray Raven, hell even a normal mob can one shot you lmao
My Lee once got One shot'd by a priest robot mob, I was like "what💀"
Then Alpha proceeded to one shot them with her ult cus no one is allowed to kill my Lee.
Imo Apho 1 was the only difficult part in Honkai. You barely have any Iframes and and contrary to Apho 2 you have a severe lack of Sp during your fights...as well as no healing. That underground trainstation gauntlet was pretty difficult since you didn‘t get healed all throughout the thing.
And the World at level 20 leaves very little room for error as well.
Apho was paced so you were easily overleveled when Luceni was ready to be fought and you have access to so many chips that you can just white heat ult spam your way to victory, basicly like chain-Q in genshin.
true. i feel like apho 1 is the biggest skill check in honkai. but once you've gotten used to the mechanics, apho 1 became somewhat easy with timing your attacks. oddly enough, a qte spam team works in apho 1 to stagger most enemies. from there, you just gotta maintain the stagger and dont let them recover.
@@ch.7785 the horse boss and the world. 😂
To be honest, you can literally win scaramouche with zhongli and Amber if you have the time. Or literally one shot him on phase 2 with a well-built team. Just felt like Dvalin but with slightly more Effort
Lucheni on the other hand was one of my best experiences 😂
I thought his fight felt like a larger less interesting Childe ngl
@@kurumilover880 try the world boss while severally underleveled.
As a guy who played Devil May Cry 4, Honkai Post Odyssey 2 final boss is almost the same.
Judgement Falls... Ugh, this boss... idk how to describe this one. It's fucking annoying. It has so many stuffs we need to break. It hits like a fucking Mecha it was. And yet, it was so fun fighting it...! I guess Honkai had conditioned me into a masochist lol
Genshin boss fights are hard for casual players, Honkai boss fights are hard for literally everyone
The only boss I can’t do is la siagora💀
But the rest can be easy for me
It’s manly the one from the archon quets not the archons story quest
I even strugle to kill stormterror at ar 55😢
But, can we talk abt all the boss themes in both games?
just amazing
Wtf I didnt even know there was a platform to stand on for scara lol
How many times have you played his domain?😭
@@nemubenzene9138 played it enough times to lvl nahida talents :rofl:
This comment section is odd to me because I quit Honkai for Genshin. I could always win with a basic understanding of HI3’s mechanics by mashing buttons, so it felt too easy. Genshin is also easy, but it’s open world so you can spend a lot of time with your favorite characters just relaxing and has a more interesting story imo.
What level were you in Honkai? Just interested. Cus I've never won by just pressing random buttons😭
i feel like honkai exalted will just fck your ass lmao
@@nemubenzene9138 you can win by pressing random buttons but some content needs you to be strategic about your timing and pressing like Nirvana- or MA. But of course you need to know what those random buttons do so he probably did not describe his playstyle correctly
nah man 💀 go breakthrough and feel what hell feels like in Nirvana its hard to kill the bosses if your supports are not fully geared (trying to kill the clock for the first time was hard) and if you want a top score you need to have full gear and keep restarting until the boss finally cooperates 😭😭
tis was actually easy, i mean his attacks are so slow you can prob dodge
the optional flying crow witch boss with scissor hands was actually harder lol (especially in part 1, part 2 youre stronger)
or just that fat dude (final boss) in part 1 lol
(also doesent matter how long it takes, genshin bosses are meant to be weekly, where honkai bosses are meant to be beaten once)
Meanwhile in PGR it’s just a dance of death until one person dies
Me while fighting literally any boss in PGR, I'm like: "it's me or you, bro"
And then I proceed to die lmao😭
@@nemubenzene9138 I wish they would add parrying in the global version because I dodge too much 😭
In gamer standard, yeah Honkai wins.
But as an artist who values artistic stuffs above all, I prefer everything Genshin
I'm also an artist.
Musical, writer, and in drawings.
And I love Genshin's graphics, yeah, BUT I really fell for Honkai for the story well written, the cinematics, the short animations, the music, the art whenever an event or update happens, the model of the Valkyries, everything.
@@Bstrdmn 2 years former Honkai player, 1.5 year currently Genshin player
Still have Honkai on my device and occasionally log in, Honkai has its own beauty but Genshin has something I personally found more genius: tradition/culture x modern hybrid designs, world & music. Not only it hits home with the traditions but easily approached with the moderns.
Hard for me. On the one hand, I love my sci-fi and Bronya is just *chef's kiss. But as a coherent product as a whole, I'm gonna say the pieces fit together much nicely in Genshin.
Problem is that the design is a bit disjointed in Honkai because we have everything from when miHoYo was a smaller, less experienced studio to the giant they are now. Early Honkai was very copy paste (as were most 3D gacha games at the time) and they've become more artistic and detailed as the years went on. But their early stuff is still clearly there in the game. I also feel they are still limited in their development environment. Their new open-worlds (fields), while better, are still kinda in the same ballpark as Sakura Samsara.
I would really like it if Honkai was rebuilt from the ground up using the team's current experience and tools.
Even in Genshin, you can see how much experience has carried them. Especially when you compare Sumeru to previous regions. And we can only expect Fontaine, Natlan, and Snezhnaya to be even more insane. Not to mention we are still expecting expansions to Liyue (north) and Mondstadt (Dandelion Sea).
Lucheni bossfight was The Best Bossfight i had ever played on a honkai game same tier as chapter 1 Boss in hsr Lucheni Bossfight really made me tear of how amazing it was
Man I’m already suffering with that one husk nihilus guy or whatever that’s called, I’m not ready for that APHO boss
The Husk Nihilus phase, yeah, we all got to that one day. But you'll learn his patterns and dodge them, then it'll l still be hard but not that hard lmao
@@nemubenzene9138 it has one?? I thought it just attacked us like crazy to the point I couldn’t even evade anymore
@@meiichus it can negate your whole shield and hp( no regeneration and can't heal ) to literally one 1 hitting you in the end. It is calls "IMG Tainted " annoying debuff from him once the tainted bar is full. Even HOF, strongest shield valk in honkai is nothing to that debuff. There are like 3 or 4 of Nihilus Husk types in the game and each one are complete different mechanic.
@@meiichus although he was hard nerfed nowadays due to him killing many many players in Elysian's realm.
False god otto is harder than both of them imo
Jenshin : running simulator
Honkai : hitting simulator with afk bosses
Haven't fought HoV in your life? She teleports like her life depends on it, because it does😭
Same with Kalpas, Kosma, Tonatiuh SSS, Benares SSS, HoD sometimes, Otto teleports at the exact time to dodge my PE ultimate💀
Honkai apho is the thing that i dont know that i needed it
honkai bosses are just dmc4 bosses but more intense
Ngl Scara weekly boss was a big letdown for me after Raiden puppet weekly, since that had phase changes without a cutscene. It's still my favorite weekly fight. As for HI3, yeah it has the better boss fights.
As a genshin player i wanted more chaotic fights like honkai, i only fight Raiden/Scaramouche on co-op cuz it's fun to see ppl go crazy over simple pattern boss moves and die
Same, sometimes when I play that domain, everyone dies but me, like, they don't know how to dodge Scara dashing at them in a *straight line* 💀
Idk comparing weekly boss that u fight again... vs boss on the story mode that u fight 1 time only..
Most Honkai bosses are weekly tho, and even Lucheni you can fight as many times as you want.
Its how big the boss are . If you want comparing weekly bosses , jenshin still dont have a chance.
that boss is repeatable tho
that challenge mode exists around in the map
Lucheni was a pain in the ass, I was sweating when I saw that thing, It's one of the most unique boss I've seen.
As a DMC player, when I saw the floating boss, my mind was like "Savior? I already scrapped you in DMC4:SE~" then I saw a cannon you need hit so it can stun him and I'm like "Yep, definitely Savior, nice one mihoyo~"~
Im not really too invested in the open world/story stuff of honkai, cuz genshin is already large enough for me to explore, so I didnt know about this boss until clicking your video, absolutely died looking at the scale of that lad compared to Scara. Dude is a childe (heh) next to the brick boi
That's how I felt after seeing Genshin players die to Scaramouche😭
Like, Sacara is an edgy baby compared to Lucheni💀
I can say that, as long as you have meta gear, artifacts, stigmatas in both games, you'll clear everything without a problem.
HI3rd and Genshin requires some lvl of skill and understanding of mechanics, because they to some extent RPG based games. But it's nothing alike DMC, MGR, Bayonetta, where pure skill needed to perform flawlessly.
So, as with everything, understanding comes with time.
Try to have the best gears in APHO 1 or 2, there are literally no gears to get there, is pure skill because APHO is based on DMC but in Honkai.
@@nemubenzene9138 and yeah, I agree, APHO is best there is in HI3rd.
There's a very simple difference.
Scaramouche fits on screen.
Lucheni doesn't.
15 minutes dude? That is so much effort idk if I can be arsed anymore
Honkai is all about *patience*
@@nemubenzene9138 I don't know if I have the patience man
Honkai Bosses are more Cinematic than Genshin,, the QTE, Cutscene and the Music, those what makes naruto Storm Series Good, and they applied that to Honkai as well, you can see that later boss fight has more combat mechanic variety and much2 better Cutscene
Are you sure you're playing Honkai and not an anime modded God of War 3? Cuz holy crap that was a spectacle.
As a guy who only play honkai for story, don't even mention how soft the story in genshin is, i mean there's still people who can't accept signora death, and in honkai death is death
YES, like, everyone were crying with the story of Xiao's siblings, but I didn't.
Because the story of the Flame Chasers is 10000x more depressing😭
true i dont even feel anything about in genshin story
Wait till they see people dropping dead left and right after rotting away their soul
Tell that to himekopers
Genshin will NEVER be able to beat Honkai in terms of story and depression
Honestly, APHO feels completely different from Genshin. Genshin feels too build/character based for me (I be suffering fighting enemies because I play characters I want to). APHO feels more responsive on mobile for me than Genshin does on console, it feels like a chess match; APHO enemies and bosses feel, fair, engaging, and like they belong. Genshin polarizes me with their enemy design. An example of this is elite samurai. They aren't vulnerable leaving their elemental forms, and heal if one of a pair dies. Haven't done APHO Chapter 2 but I will soon.
Well, I am not a good gamer. I don't have a problem admitting that, I am not good. I tried Honkai and I failed and I am sure if I invested a lot of time into it, I could get better for sure. But I don't have the time, lol. As a casual and not very good gamer I am thankful Genshin bosses aren't really hard, ngl
I'm actually glad of that, cus I don't play Genshin that much for the fights. I only go there for the music or chilling with the people in coop. It's way funnier than fighting a boss 15 minutes.
@@nemubenzene9138 same. I like it when Characters are fun to play like Kazuha or the Wanderer or something, but the atmosphere and story is what I am here for. If I had to go through a 5 week training arc to beat a boss like Dvalin, I would have most likely stopped playing a long time ago.
@@dailyicetea3829 perhaps you have never play hardcore PC PvE game in your childhood.
@@saimyintmyat9373 I never did, that's right.
I play both of the games but I like Honkai more than Genshin, Cause Honkai big boss fight got a duo combo ultimate.
Ik, Adam/Carole is my favorite duo ultimate. Just cus Adam appears, he cute.
That's not big boss that's a Titan 😂
NGL Genshin has only the graphics going for it and even that can be polished out in honkai quite easily...
Exactly. The only thing keeping genshin bring "better" than honkai is graphics. Even then honkai isn't horrible graphics, just less detailed because they focus on combat, not overworld 😅😅
@@crustacean78 graphics and beautiful open world compatible for all players with calm traditional music and their cultural in each places. That all.
@@saimyintmyat9373 and just a good story, good combat system, awesome characters and dark undertones.
Yeah the usual. /s
Except they haven't in the 2 years since Genshin has been out. It's understandable why, they would have to probably change things at a foundation level to optimize the game with enhanced graphics. But obviously if Honkai has survived this long (and still making money) without Genshin graphics, why would they need to upgrade?
I feel they may be wrapping up Honkai in the next few years and are probably pooling their resources into another instalment that utilizes all of their new tools and technologies. It would be too much of a headache to try and implement them now. They probably thought it might be better just to make another instalment rather than trying to update the current game live.
@@GoodwillWright honkai star rail
Tbh Hoyo's favorite game is Honkai
Forget about the long stamina bars and mechanics stuff, the feelings of achievement defeating a Honkai boss gives you are different. Not to mention the ambient and the soundtrack. When there's a boss Honkai screams you're moving up in the game!!
Haven't played Genshin but I'm willing to bet defeating a boss there will feel just like another Tuesday.
You're right, when I defeat a boss in Honkai, I feel powerful. When I defeat a boss in Genshin I feel nothing💀
As both players of each game, I still found the running simulator in Genshin so funny 😂😂
And the fact that old honkai story bosses...it has no choice difficulty, whereas todays chapter bosses starting from (whatever chapter kolosten was cuz that where i first saw difficulty choices)..i dont even know how hard or easy honkai bosses are since i was so used to dying on first attempt and succeeding on second attempt. it was fun, can guarantee you that though
tldr: basically we had single difficulty (aside from MA and Abyss) for story bosses
Yeah but old bosses cannot one shot you (now) unlike Otto/Kevin in *normal* not event talkin about hard 😭
I think that genshin's combat would improve a lot of you had more I-frames and dodging didn't consume stamina.
I think it just doesn't make sense to make the stamina recover so slowly in a combat that can go for easily 5 minutes, making you unable to position or even taking hits for being unable to dodge
See now we are seeing reasons why the combat in Genshin is mid. Honkai did it well, but in Genshin they never added those mechanics that made Honkai engaging and fun. In Genshin assuming you're not getting hit all you do is mash buttons. In Honkai you can time perfect dodges, QTEs, and time combos so you're not mashing as much because you gotta time your presses and hope to not get interrupted and are actually able to dance with the bosses. It's a lot of fun!
Honkai bosses are basically God of War tiers
Genshin has to be easy af or else it'll give players anxiety
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