Farmina Ancestral Grains, is it worth the money?
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Taking a side by side look at all the Farmina Ancestral Grains CANINE options.
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Very helpful breakdown at 6:20 of how ingredient lists can be intentionally misleading
I absolutely impressed with the work you are doing! Thank you so much for help to understand all these information and pick a right doggy food! Thank you 🙏
Thanks for all you do, ma'am. Keep 'em coming.
Will do!
The reason you would pick the blueberry over the pomegranate is the protein one is chicken and one is lamb. I wouldnt choose one over the other based on the fruit. I dont feed my dogs chicken, ever
Unless your pet has a documented food allergy as a medical diagnosis the protein doesn’t matter (medically speaking) and it would be prudent to pick a food based on nutritional content vs ingredients
Hi Doc, could you please do a review on the new Tropical ND Selection line? Specifically the Salmon Tropical grain & tropical Pork grain kibble please.
My lab & other peoples dogs who are allergic to chicken have limited options with Farmina . A lot of their kibble including the Lamb contain chicken fat in it. Before I found out my dog was allergic to chicken, I use to feed her the ancient grains & chicken. Thank you for all of your time & dedication to educating us 😊
That one is next
Thank you for the videos! Very helpful with food selections. I do want to point out that SPELT is not a fish (stated at 20:26 and in other points of the video). You are likely thinking of SMELT, which is a fish. Spelt is an “ancient grain”, hence its inclusion in the formulas.
Yes I address that in a future video, I misread it and didn’t realize til later
@@AnimalDocReaoh! I’ll have to keep watching for that. Thank you! Did you also address the mini/maxi aspect you mention in this video as being confusing and took down the grading in the puppy foods? I ask because it’s my understanding that the mini and medium and maxi on the Farmina bags denotes the size of the kibble pieces and not the size of the dog breed itself. Thank you again!
mini and maxi only refer to the size of the kibble
@@AnimalDocRea thanks for clarifying! It was a bit confusing when you were speaking at 12: 40 about large breed puppy foods saying "mini" on the bag and saying you didn't really like that. I thought it was important to make sure there was clarification that it was kibble size there. I see you did make that clarification later in the video though. :)
I’m refering to labeling being confounded in that it is mismatched to label a food as mini show a picture of a yorkie and then AAFCO it as a large breed puppy.
Thanks again Doc. My guess, and it is just a guess, is that Farmina Ancestral Grain Selection is one of the original formulas of kibble from Farmina. One little observation, while it is only available in a 33 lb bag, it is offered at a lower price point than the 26 lb bags in the other Ancestral Grain formulas.
Glad to get your opinions and guidance.
Looking forward to your thoughts on the Tropicals.
I reached out about the chicken/pomegranate adult mini dry matter a few months ago, and they came back with Protein: 32.96, Fat: 19.78, Fiber: 3.18, Calcium: 0.98, and Phosphorus 0.87…protein is a little high, but I liked the other numbers and have been feeding my pup this one. Been great so far!
Awesome thanks for sharing
Thank you dr for this wonderful info! I've been binge-watching your videos..Love it Can you do the same video for Natural Core dog kibbles?
Love the videos! They are so helpful! Can you do one specifically if you havent already. Loyall Life Large Breed Puppy?
Great suggestion!
Can you please review Nutrience Healthy Adult | Small Breed Dog Food
Thank you so much for the info! I've been wondering about the Farmina lamb and blueberry adult mini for a while! Not sure if you've already done purina pro plan sensitive skin and stomach salmon and rice formula for small breed but if not, when you have time, can you do that one? Thanks!
I haven’t yet. I’m glad you found this one helpful and thank you for your membership
Saw your question, and just wanted to let you know:
We brought our dog out of a 3 month nightmare of a food allergy reaction. After years of zero issues, we decided to try one of those "premium designer" foods. They deliver it to your doorstep on dry ice. Biggest mistake ever. Long story short, at the end of 3 months of troubleshooting, the dermatologist vet recommended Purina Pro Plan Sensitive Skin and Stomach, Salmon formula. Boom, she was cured. 3 months of terminal itching/scratching, gone. After watching Dr. Rae's channel and the Pet Food Puzzle Guy's channel for some time now, we are sooooo much more educated in the NUTRITION world of dog food.
@@mcbeezee2120I understand! When I got my Frenchie, her skin was awful and so were her ears. Her stools were not consistent and always runny. I took her off of chicken and beef completely and switched to Purina pro plan sensitive skin and stomach salmon formula. She immediately started getting better. I will say I fell for the "premium designer food" myself and started her on a certain delivery food also. She got very sick and started vomiting. I took her off of it and back on Purina pro plan we went. She has been thriving on that for a while now. I have found that any poultry such as turkey, chicken, etc., she has skin reactions. So fast forward some months, and after I watched one of Dr. Rea's videos on Ollie, I decided to give them a chance. So, my dog now eats half Ollie lamb and half Purina pro plan. She is doing amazing!
The pom/chicken selection recipe does not contain whole eggs compared to the adult pom/chicken recipe.
I’d love a video doing a comparison between PPP Large Breed Puppy vs Eukanbua Large Breed Puppy. I’m stuck between the two. I always thought I go with PPP but breeder recommended Eukanbua. I know you’ve discussed both brands before but selfishly I’d love a deeper dive comparison lol :)
Thanks for all the great videos!
Going to be honest, a friend has access to both. She feeds Eubanuka because that's what most readily available to her in Maine.
Abd reverse is true for me, Purina ProPlan is easier to find.
I like it because it says mini, I have small dogs and I don’t maxi it’s too big. I love farmina and carna 4
Mini is the size of the kibble, and you go buy the weight of the puppy. If the puppy is bigger then you go with puppy maxi because the kibbles are bigger.
I contacted Rawz Dog Food to see why they say “ next best thing to feeding raw” and they replied “We say that RAWZ is the “next best thing to feeding raw” as we are minimally processed and don’t use gums, meals, or grains. Our recipes are gently cooked to 170-175 degrees for a few minutes, and we try our best to use the most natural human grade ingredients.” How does this brand of kibble compare to Farmina?
Dr. Rea reviewed already: ruclips.net/video/m1Aeftbz9W8/видео.html
The Senior formula would actually be a more accurate large breed puppy according to parameters.... fat is still high, though, but "only" by 3%
Very nice observation
Hi! Thank you for your videos. I’m desperately looking for a good dry food for cats. Can you do Farmina for cats?
Yeah it’s part of the plan
Great video!!
Have you ever reviewed the Authority line at Pet Smart? If not, would love to see that
I think I tried early on but could never get in touch with customer service to get me the parameters I needed. If you can get the numbers and email them to me I will.
There are pretty popular of Korean pet food brands - as natural core (has a high level of good reviews), ANF, Zenith. Please check this out if they are actually good
Hello dr. Love your videos. I live in india and the only good brands available here are Farmina, royal canine, Acana and Orijen. Can you do the same video for Felines?
Please review Northwest Naturals and Dr Marty’s dog food
Just want to start by saying that I am a HUGE numbers nerd, for everything i do or purchase in life when looking for the best options. So your channel has been just the style of content i love. I have been watching and taking notes on dozens of your videos over the last couple weeks. But now, I have a few questions, haha. I know that generally most people don't suggest that you switch between foods. But if budget isn't an option, do you see any issues with the use of something like purina pro plan puppy then moving to something like the Farmina Ancient grains adult chicken and pom? Im trying to find a feeding plan for our upcoming pudelpointer puppy and as you know, there are SO many options to consider. But im wanting to find a puppy and an adult food that scores atleast a 9 or so on your grading scale for both life stages. Im not opposed to trying the Farmina puppy foods from this video, but to be honest im pretty confused at their targets and whether or not they are appropriate for my MAYBE large breed puppy. The pudelpointers size also make the food decision difficult because their adult size ends up right in the gray area of large breed or "regular" at 45-70lbs for male or female. I'm sorry, I know this is a lot of info, haha. Thank you so much for what you do.
I’d say sticking with regular breed is fine for that weight range. I think it’s fine to switch brands from puppy stage to adult. Sometimes a brand just has a better portfolio in one be the other, just don’t change foods every month, that’s more what I’m referencing. Also thanks for becoming a member!
I rotate my dogs both the grains and grain free.
Love your videos! Thank you so much for doing these. We're getting 3 Standard Poodle puppies, and trying to find a good food for them has been so confusing. If I'm reading that chart right, even the "adult" formulas would be fine for large breed puppies, especially with the puppy lines being so high in the fat? The Highest the LB puppy should be is 12%. Or are the other minerals, glucosamine, etc going to be lacking? Just not a huge fan of such a high fat percentage for the puppies...
You can always supplement glucosamine if necessary, it’s not considered an essential nutrient so they aren’t required to list it
@@AnimalDocRea Thank you! Might save us some $$ using a good adult food of this or the Tropical line instead of going with a specified puppy "formula" since we're feeding X3.
Ive been feeding farmina since i find it has better ingredients then purina pro plan or jinx since its grain free. But now idk whats the best dry kibble for my golden 😅. In my country dogs got fed the scraps and lived to have very long lives lol
I’d avoid the grain free with a golden unless your vet specifically recommends it
Hi Doc Rea, Do you research companies that are not on Amazon? Tractor supply company that sells animal feed? They sell dog food called 4health dry and canned that is AAfco certified. Would you investigate this in the future please? No recalls and 5 star reviews. Thank you
Yes, I have a review on 4 health.
4 Health Dog Food: Review by a general practice veterinarian
ruclips.net/video/pGs00-mST2o/видео.html
The aafco statement doesn't say it's for a large breed puppy, it says all life stages, including growth of large size dogs. The mini and maxi only refers to the size of the kibble. Mini is smaller sized bites than the maxi.
@stacyneff8441 that AAFCO statement indeed means it’s a large breed puppy. Further explanation an available in My foundational playlist.
Hi docor witch food is better farmina or purina pro? My dog weigs 56 kilos is this kibble large of small breed thanks
There isn’t a difference in adult for large breed, only puppy. The nutritional requirements are the same.
ruclips.net/user/shortskemtwusPgr0?feature=share
Hi doctor! Please, what would you recommend if I get a bag of kibble of 20 pounds but my small dogs gets through it in about 3 months? What I do is separate kibble for 2 weeks on a tupper and seal the rest and again every 2 weeks. I dont buy small kibble bag for $ reasons😢
Call the company and ask for storage solutions. I contacted hills once for a pet on a prescription diet that only came I a huge bag for a 5 lb chihuahua and they said it was ok to freeze
Excellent review for sure, do you think it’s worth the extra money?
I think it depends on each person’s definition of “worth the money”. I think there are other foods with similar scores that are more cost effective and I would t say a 9/10 from this brand is any better necessarily than a 9/10 from another. So I guess the budget is up to the individual, and just because you financially can spend more doesn’t mean you should or must do so.
@@AnimalDocRea OK thank you, do you have a video that would show the nine out of 9/10 brands
@blueback21 I have a playlist of 7+. I add to it weekly as long as the requested video scores high enough
Thank you for all you do! I’m new to your videos and haven’t seen all of them yet but I have two, almost 4 year old, standard poodles with sensitive skin as well as tummies. Have you reviewed a food that will cover both of these issues you can recommend? I am currently feeding them Life’s Abundance but saw the video you did on that brand and the entire thing about it being a pyramid scheme kind of turns me off. If it’s good for the two issues mine have, then I would be fine staying on LA.
It would depend on what you mean by sensitive skin and stomach and why it is you are looking to change.
@@AnimalDocRea I find them scratching even though no fleas, so just a mild skin issue that maybe fish oil being an ingredient might solve. After seeing that LA is one of those pyramid companies, I’m thinking my breeder might have recommended it for the kick back she gets. My female seems to eat grass often and will throw up here and there, not a ton. So neither are major issues but I thought maybe there was a better option out there besides LA
I see, if then you are just looking for a more balanced option, then yes there are lots more diets that score better than LA on nutrient parameters. Check out the 7-10 playlist for options to consider
@@AnimalDocRea thank you so much! So far 4 health looks like a great option. I know I want one that scores anywhere from 7 to 10 but I would like a number closest to 10 as possible that would help with their skin/coat and tummy. BTW, I am a Lakeland FL native here!!! Go Gators!!!! 🐊 You attended a superb vet school! I wish I lived closer to you!
That’s so sweet, thank you…and go gators 🐊
What temp do they use to heat this supposedly healthier kibble??
Processing temperature does not affect the numbers presented for the purpose of this video. This numbers reflect the FINAL product after any processing and nutrition as they will be delivered to the pet. You must evaluate foods on a Dry matter basis and in this fashion to mitigate any differences that may occur as a result of processing. If you wish to know that information for personal reasons I suggest contacting the company.
Also please be careful with the term healthier, that is different depending on the specific needs of the patient. What we do on this channel is systematically analyze a food based on a methodical approach that removes marketing bias and fallacies. Health depends on your personal conversation with your veterinarian. We use optimal nutritional numbers from SACN text and are ideal for the majority of the population of healthy animals, with outliers and exceptions expected.
Hey Im about to adopt a 4 year old shepherd mix dog 47lbs, he only has 3 legs, what food should I feed him? Keep using the meds? This is the issue he has😢 (Red blood cell aplasia (remission w/meds), tripod. Ongoing monitoring will be required (rechecks every 6-8 weeks until completely off immunomodulatory therapy like Pred and Cyclosporine) and every 3 months thereafter for the first year, and 2-3x yearly thereafter. IMHA is a disease that can be put into remission sometimes for life after a one-time occurrence. The disease can recur, particularly with certain triggers that stimulate the immune system such as vaccines, certain antibiotics, some insect/spider bites or infections that trigger certain type of immune response. Denamarin Advanced for Large Dogs to support my liver, monthly cost is ~$72, depending on market value and where purchased. Regularly taking Atopica (~110.00 for 2 months supply. Price will vary based on where purchased and market value) to help manage my skin allergies.)
I have seen many of these cases. Unfortunately, due got the medical nature of the condition it would be inappropriate for me to make a food recommendation. That is best discussed with the vet managing the condition.
@@AnimalDocRea Rescue place told me “he's currently eating Blue Buffalo life protection formula dry food and
Canidae wet food all stages of life. 1/4 wet to dry. He's currently in remission and we are currently reducing his meds in hopes he won't need any meds very shortly. He's only taking a fish oil supplement daily and Atopica every other day and will hopefully be off that in the near future.”
Blue buffalo , canidae 🤔😢
@Daygomadebrian if he’s doing well may be best not to risk the change. Once you establish with your vet and get him on a routine with you, they may suggest some adjustments but you are probably set for a lifetime of labs so you can catch any issues quickly. You can also ask your vet if maybe the generic atopica can be used to help with costs, that’s not always possible.
Can you review Bark dog kibble? It’s made by the bark box company and wanted to see if it is good food or not. Haven’t been able to find any thing online
I took a breed look and wasn’t impressed enough to do a review but if you request it, I can do it
@@AnimalDocRea is it a bad food to feed my dog? If so what are you brands you typically recommend?
@ThiHexCrew I have a playlist of foods that score 7 and above
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Just keep your videos to less than 30 minutes. LOL Apparently, DSLRs are made to time out at 30 minutes for whatever reason. To prevent overheating? I enjoy your personal stories. Maybe not about constipated cats however! No problems with constipation or hairballs with fresh homemade food. LOL Happy Purrsday!
Taxes. I believe retailers need to pay duties or tarrifs if a photography camera can also function as a video recorder (over 30 minutes)
@@ZaryaTheLaika More big gov't. nonsense. I was trying to avoid the political.
@@edschulhof6303 Yeah, not going to comment too much on the film industry's protectionism.
I found out it’s a memory card thing, it times out after so much data at I film in HD.
@AnimalDocRea could you review a few foods by Royal Canin for Dogs as well as Cats? What do you think of there approach going even so far as "breed specific"?
So much info… love it… completely surprised about the select diet being more appropriate for those other two categories… so if you had to score the select as a senior diet would it also be a 6/10…!?!
Yes
@@AnimalDocRea Hi,I am first time here but from Montenegro 🇲🇪 We had Farmina here for at least 20 years or more with Cibau line,Ecopet,Fun dog before ND came out it was produced in Italy only.
My dog started on Cibau puppy,but for 9 years was on raw and homemade but had to go kibble so for a year we are looking for a food that suits him and to mention immediately - forget all US available food except some Orijen and Acana and forget almost all EU available (we are not the same as Croatia,not even Serbia) so if I want to feed brand constantly and decide we basicly have RC and Farmina and Happy dog (German) to choose from. Some Josera etc,brands I am not sure you guys have even heard of. So we have to choose from Farmina.
Could you PLEASE help me with that as we changed at least 12 foods and brands in a year and he doesn't have to be on medical food although he had and has some isuess. And I can only choose from Farmina,any line for that matter,all available here ( no Cibau in USA)
He is almost 11 wiredhaired mini shnautzer mix, was 100% healthy untill up a year ago except for some gastritis issues which got worse through years on raw and homemade as he would basicly eat only meat and hardly you could get him some veggies. Rice,quinoa,chia etc added but he was carnivore at least 85% and would eat a whole cow if you let him.
Now he has 1st stage OA left him,spine degeneration h1g1 (he is 12kg and only was 10.7kg when he had acute colitis),has chronic gastritis (vets here are not so great but anything fried,more fat,scraps makes him smack his lips for months)
Has BPH with cysts so we got him Suprelorin from Serbia and finally he can poo 🐾🙏 after 8 months of struggle (no vet meds here either,very limited,have to get all from Serbia,Croatia etc).
The thing is - he HAS TO LOOSE WEIGHT, but - likes chicken - no chicken quinoa.
Asparagus and broccoli in Mini Neutered Quinoa and crude analysis seems to be the one for at least 2 of his problems - weight and now chemicly castrated although I am looking more into proteins and fibre and higher fiber suits him.
But he is not a huge fan of that one and likes Ancestral grains chicken (no Light nor Senior formula here) which is 18% fat. How can he loose weight on that one? ☹️
So now we mix Mini Quinoam Neutered with a little Ancestral grain Mini chicken (no grain free for him either makes him bloated) or Ocean Cod witg oats and spelt and had him on Vetlife Hypo Egg and rice for a week for his lip smacking the whole night.
He takes Flexadin Advanced and Proxetin Symbiotic DC and it is ok BUT - how can I know what to do when vets won't tell you except those who sell RC for them there is only RC Gastrointestnal and all problems solved even OA and prostate - insane,just to sell the food.
So I wanted to try to mix ND Quinoa weight management (instead of this Neutered duck) with Ancestral Chicken or Cod (just a little because he needs grains) or Vetlife Joint as he needs to loose weight primarly ...
No help from vets or pet shop staff - if you feed your dog cat food they sell it and here big bags are opened and you can buy 300gr if you want to 🤷🏼♀️
Please any advice on dog who:
Eats kibble only if you starve him as he waits for raw,scraps etc
Has to loose 2kg asap
Doesn't like boar,queil,venison etc only chicken and has to eat fish when I mix it and wet it (leaned proteins are for him as light as possible that is why I went for duck and he ate it and loved initially)
Grain free not an option
Needs more fiber
Almost 11 years old
Has an implant for chem castration
Needs easy digestible food and more Omega 3
Which Farmina to mix? 🤮🤯🤯🤯 as my mind is spinning
It can be Quinoa,Ancestral,Vet life
P.s. when he eas some middle range brands with corn he is happy to eat those,the worse quality the more he likes it 🤕🤕🤕
Look at Cibau line as well,it is in all European sites of Farmina.
Thank you SO MUCH 🐾🍀🙏🫂❤️ as I am about to go for ND Weight management at this point (according to calories and crude anylisis) or stay on Neutered but add Joint for 3 months... really out of options as main advice here is - let him eat whichever he likes 🤷🏼♀️
I got a 4# bag of lamb to see if my dogs like it. There is more writing on that bag than the Bible. 😂
Yeah, but after watching Dr. Rea's videos, you know exactly what to look for: the important stuff, not the fluffy INGREDIENTS list. 👍
Have seen her video, already know what I'm looking for. The bag has instructions on several languages, hence all the writing on bag
What should I do for wet food? I’ve just switched Riley to the adult mini ancestral grain chicken/pomegranate but the wet foods are all grain free. Do you think it would be sufficient to do 75% dry grain inclusive kibble and 25% grain free wet? Or do I need to find another source for the wet food?
If it’s 10% or less it should be fine
Thank you Dr. Rea! One quick clarification/correction: Spelt is a grain, easily confused with the fish smelt.
Yes I know, I realized that on playback. I made a correction to that statement on the ocean. I read it as smelt.