Thank you EYES 200M for the great pre-Christmas video! 😊 There is actually only one logical answer: Our understanding and view of the infant universe must contain one or more errors: Either the age of our universe is not correct, or we already see a different universe, for example the predecessor or simply a different part of a multiverse. In any case, that means it did NOT start with a singularity but rather we live in a practically timeless infinite cyclic self-renewing universe. I don't see any other options at the moment... 👀
Just like the Bible says at Ps 90:2:- Before the mountains were born Or you brought forth the earth and the productive land, From everlasting to everlasting, you are God. Basically, time is infinite in both directions- past and future. Good to see science providing the evidence.
@@vivo-audioWhat evidence would you have wanted? Many of the Bible's teachings are presented in the form of allegories. Some portions of it are rules created for individuals to use to survive as a people and in the New Testament, aside from the Gospel, are how to create and run faith worship groups (churches).
@@chrismason123 Pointing the JWT at the farthest reaches and earliest developments of the universe to gather information on how trillions of galaxies were first formed, does not constitute evidence that a God exists. However, particle physics and astronomy does exists and we now have a pretty good understanding of how the universe was created and the biology that eventually led to the evolution of life. Because life DID evolve, it wasn't created as it says in the Bible. We have overwhelming evidence for this. Science wins over faith every single time.
I am 62, had a great science teacher in High School 1976-1979, we were solving quadratic equations with slide rulers to solve outputs based on inputs for Archaeology
It’s amazing to hear about your experience! Learning to solve quadratic equations with slide rules sounds both challenging and rewarding. It’s great that your science teacher encouraged such hands-on problem-solving techniques, especially applied to something as fascinating as archaeology. Teachers like that can make a lasting impact!
Enough is enough. Stop advertising the greatness of the JWST. You have done that now since the beginning of its launch. We get it and do not disagree. But now we want the data. Lets hear about the things it sees and stop just glorifying the JWSTY..
Why doesn’t this turn on us and observe asteroids and unusual dark sun and red dwarfs that could be in our own solar system? Isn’t this just a huge distraction tool for our own fate to our earth and we are to survive. Ask the pope who built this bio scope or penned name Lucifer right here in the us. Took over Native American ground to build it.
I am 61 years old. not a scientist a plumber. but as early as I can remember I was told about infinity. It just goes on forever and ever. Well JWST is telling me Infinity it just keeps going. Seems right to me. but I'm just a plumber.
I am 62, had a great science teacher in High School 1976-1979, we were solving quadratic equations with slide rulers to solve outputs based on inputs for chemical reactions. I loved Archaeology and Carbon Dating, read books about Howard Cater, memorized the speed of light, distance to the moon, distance to the sun, what an AU was. Having seen so many scientific corrections over the years, I wonder if our assumptions about radioactive decay, distances in space, the speed of light, etc., are actually accurate. Small errors with such large numbers could cause very different outcomes and resutls.
There is a hypothetical theory (I call it this as I think we need a new categorisation for special ideas that are not proven but can be tested as a hypothesis) that suggests that the measurements for far away objects ARE incorrect and some of the red shift measurements are caused by light decay and therefore distance is not accurate. It is merely hypothetical at this stage but in fact alongside wild hypothesis as primordial black holes forming solar systems accounting for the missing mass measured in stars, and another load of wild ideas including potentially older than the universe galaxies, we COULD be on the verge of some very very interesting discoveries, but then again, maybe not lol. Science has become a clergy, scientists needs freedoms to test new a new hypothesis and not just imagine that the model in their head is reality, when reality is what we observe, and for that matter we may not even be observing it right anyway. Onwards we must go.
Who the hell ever decided that 'our' big bang is exclusive in all eternity, that there aren't other big bang's merging with ours etc etc? It's crazy how as beings capable of incredible thought, we continue to limit ourselves to such linear thinking.
Yes ! 1) Linear thinking is a big constraint in all our thought processes ! 2) Big bounce is a better word than big bang !?. After decades .... It may be described as a ' Big - Blip ' All the same , the video is good. But can be in 2 parts .i) Sire cosmos ii) and Mr . Mars
The difference is that we have evidence for one Big Bang. We don't have evidence for two or more. It's that simple. You either base your science on evidence or you're not a scientist.
@@sriramamurtikakarla455 This video is terrible ... just like all of this clown's other videos. For one, it's just clickbait. He keeps saying that everything Webb finds is older than the universe but astronomers have never said that about the JWST discoveries. He's just making up BS.
What if we are really a Universe in a Cosmos of Universes? Like a garden of universes.... How are galaxies crossing paths if there was a "big bang" that supposedly blew everything outward? And, if these galaxies are flying outward, why are they pointed in all different types of directions?
"In the words of Gupta, “Our newly-devised model stretches the galaxy formation time by several billion years, making the universe 26.7 billion years old, and not 13.7 as previously estimated.” The universe might be much older than we thought, and that could shed light on some of its biggest mysteries." So yes, it still isn't close to 6,000 years old.
I have wondered that same thing, but I think the answer is related to the nature of the expansion. We cannot imagine an "explosion" in space, which indeed would send energy outward in every direction that isn't obstructed. That is not what the Big Bang describes. The Big Bang describes the origin of the electromagnetic (ie space-time) continuum itself, with all the warpage that results. As mass takes form within this framework - both the kind we know and the "dark" kind that is mysterious, it bends and warps the universe unevenly. But a physicist would need to confirm me on that.
good question. in space (vacuum) these objects should only travel in the direction it was first blown out, and in a STRAIGHT line, according to all known physics.
Apparently, there may be a bias against a possibility of a supernatural power, (even WITHOUT any evidence proving there can’t be a transcendent supernatural power). That bias is similar to presupposing the universe gradually evolved WITHOUT observing a single evolving galaxy or star anywhere in the universe, throughout its time of existence.
One logical explanation of Webb's observations is that the universe was instantly fully formed at its very beginning , complete with all of its galaxies already mature. Why can't that possibility be considered? Is there a bias against that possibility?
So the bias is against a supernatural power, (even without evidence proving there can’t be any transcendent supernatural power). That bias is like presupposing the universe gradually evolved without observing a single evolving galaxy or star anywhere in the universe, throughout its time of existence. @@zeriousvolt1245
I think the older variety of that theory was called "Steady-State Cosmology". It was mainly expounded by Fred Hoyle, and argued that creation is an ever-ongoing process: matter, stars and galaxies have always been created anew, to fill in for galaxies and stars that have decayed or ended up disintegrating due to "Entropic cold death". The universe, therefore, would be eternal and essentially endless. The theory fell out of favour with astronomers more than fifry years ago.
@@MrCrowebobby Sure. And that also means that it includes everything that we can now see, or will be able to see in the future when telescopes get better. Thus, I hope you will agree, it's not possible to detect anything that's older than the universe itself.
Maybe I'm thick but surely if you go back to the big bang,you will eventually go past and out the other side so the further you look back the more you come back to the present time, even though you will be further away by time. If the universe is 13 billion years old, my logic would be that you should be able to see 26 billion light years to the other side. Also on the basis the further you look back, you will be looking across time and will therefore see brighter bigger universes
I'll probably sound like a simpleton to ask such a question in this forum but can someone help me understand how this fascinating knowledge is going to be useful to life here on Earth. Way too far out to be searching for Earth bound asteroids so are we trying to prove or disprove Genesis 1? What else could it be? Anyway I've always wanted to ask a scientist this question. Thank you.
@@donkeyearrs Not everyone believes the Bible there are many other religions in the world. The goal with science generally isn't to "disprove genesis" which is just laughable to even hear someone say, but to discover actual answers or truths, opposed to believing something you read in a book that was written by men thousands of years ago.
Is it possible the universe is an expanding sphere with galaxies on all sides of the center…and Webb is looking beyond the Big Bang epicenter to galaxies on the far side?
Yes, this is an interesting assumption and in some parts quite close to my ideas! That would explain perfectly the different expansion speeds (Hubble tension)... This also means that the universe is multi-dimensional and automatically a multiverse (here I would agree 100%)... I am always happy when I discover imagination and creative thoughts with fellow human beings, that brings us on the right way! 😃
Listen to yourself. First of all, what are the chances earth sits the EXACT CENTER of it all? Do you really believe a big bang happened now? It's a stupid as flat earth theory
I Thought space and time was the same thing? How can a big bang from a singularity be everywhere? Yes, it goes everywhere in all directions in my limited view .@@wefinishthisnow3883
About 6 years ago. The front page of the seattle times said " seeds " of the universe. The web telescope got within 174000 years of the beginning of the universe. There was nothing but dot ( seeds ) . All life on earth is from seeds. It appears the universe is from seeds, also.
Something as huge as the Universe cannot be described in 2 words. The idea that we thought we would get it right first time is a very childlike assumption. I think it will be a long time before we grasp such understanding. In my opinion this is a good thing because we humans need something to think about if we didn't have that what good would life be. My favorite thing to do is learn new things. It's like nothing can be more exciting than learning. I am 56 years old and I still love to learn new things.
Another awesome video my friend. Great content. Thank-you. In the book I published almost 3 months before the JWST was launched, on page 48 I wrote quote "The JWST, James Webb Space Telescope will discover old, fully grown galaxies as far as the telescope can see, further than 13.8 billion light-years away." And that's what they found. Enough said.
Same. Thank you for these mind expanding posts. There is no threat to us as a species, realizing we don’t know everything and that our theories do not match the evidence. It’s a learning process that never ends perhaps.
So nice to have this messages about the universe we learn new things about unsolved mysteries in astronomy far away from us difficult to understand must say Bravissimo ☆☆☆☆☆
It is interesting to observe read or listen to reactions of those whose life's work has been upended by these new observations. New scientific paradigms are unsettling for those who smugly thought they had the "answer". I always felt that the "big bang" was just a one of many events in time and space. It is likely we may find that it is rather common place in the grand scheme of things. Hubris is sadly a common place affliction which limits our ability to expand our quest for knowledge.
I'm detecting a major emission of hubris from your own galaxy. You just watched a video that offered next to nothing quantifiable that 'upends' our understanding of the universe much less supports your musings. And the whole purpose of the telescope is to discover new things, hard to see how our quest for knowledge is being held back.
@@bearclaw5115 His reference is to the telescope itself, not this poorly made video. Yeah, blame it on the video and you can avoid the problems the telescope is causing the theorists.
@@dustydesert1674 The James Webb isn't causing problems. It's discovering things we didn't know before. Scientists then try to make sense of it until theories can be dismissed or proven into fact. That's how science works. There is no blame in science. The blame comes from ignorant people who can't stand being too stupid to understand science.
Scientists aren't smug. Stupid people who baselessly think they know better than scientists are smug. "I always *FELT* ...." THAT'S the problem! You don't THINK, you feel. The ability to expand 'our' quest for knowledge, comes from discovery, study, theorize, calculate and proove. Not from 'feeling'.
@@arturama8581 I appear to have touched a nerve. Who are you to presume that I am not a scientist? Have you ever engaged in debates within the scientific community? I think not. I would suggest that read about what happens with a paradigm shift in science occurs.
Some people just don't have the mental capacity to understand that the universe is infinite James web is just piercing into the depths of the cosmos the next space scope mankind develops will definitely be better and will truly show mankind that it has no end
The understanding of the universe in its physical form also defines the existence if of the development of life. Human ingenuity has expanded consciousness itself. This presentation helped to define our place in the universe. Creation yields truth as to how life evolved and develops. The potential scope of intelligent life across the universe may reveal other James Webb Space Telescopes that are not of human origin. The structure of the early universe yields how life develops as well. The age of the universe went from 13.8 billion years to 26.7 billion years. Explaining physical development requires thinking outside of direct observation. Bravo.
From the idea of an increase of atmosphere on Mars with diminished solar bombardment would indicate if we added a moon as Earth has. This would increase the magnetic field of Mars allowing for an atmosphere to flourish or something similar. If we could only find a moon and had the tech to move it there or build one.
You need a strong magnetic field which requires a strong current in a liquid ferrometal core like earth. Mars has none today, maybe in the beginning of time. Probably the core solidified or was too small...
@@DilbertMucsurprisingly Mars's core is liquid. For a strong magnetic field (like Earth has had for about 1 billion years) you need solid inner core and liquid outer core (iron/nickel).
We are infants exploring the unknown, all our understanding is based on what we could observe or prove thru science. Having our understanding of the Universe challenged is not a bad thing, but a preunderstanding that are now being questioned by the ability of what we had, not what we now Have. The Quest remains and finding of answers is just restarting.
Let's take what we already know and have proven and apply it to our universe: Imagine if there were no beginning, and instead, the universe is over and over again shaped by a tremendously large set of gravityy waves coming from outside our universe. Something so large that we cannot fathom (for example, wavelengths of billions of light-years!). This could result in an ever expanding and contracting universe, that never reaches a singularity, but looks like it does from our end of the curve; Furthermore, galaxy cores perhaps can "survive" being squished through the eons, which is how we have such a tremendous variation of many galaxies just a few 100 million years since the so-called "big bang". Thank you for listening to my ted talk!
the original meaning of "Universe" was *all that IS, known or unknown, seen or unseen* - therefore it includes 'multiverse' the 'other side' and even god - that meaning has been recently subverted to meet an agenda according to Natural Universal Law (the first law of thermodynamics, aka the law of conservation of energy) the Universe was not created, but is in fact *eternal*
Where in all of your commentary is the reference to ...... " (James Webb) just detected a huge structure, older than the Universe"? I am curious, as your title uses this "hook" to draw in your audience, including me.
I mean our model is nearly 100 years old, of course it is not complete,It's just a question of our technological development and we will develop a new theory. This will also result in new questions, it is a dynamic process that never ends! It would be nothing more than a miracle if we could already explain the universe
Thank for this video It is rare that we get a scientific video that is not worried about disrupting the world of elite funding to promote science to reflect that of the funder rather then the actual science.
To be honest , the quality of your astronomical videos are so precious and attractive that i am compelled to repeat watching them. As a person having interested mind for astronomy , i have been dreaming , awaiting 2 major astronomical event expected to happen withing our life times one event is betalgeuse supernova. The other one is heylis comet which will be visible in year 2062.. i couldnt see it , when earth encountered it in 1986 , because i was a small child. Next time , i will see it , as a 83 years old person.
I’m starting to believe that the universe is a lot older than 26 billion years and goes on forever. There probably never was a “big bang”. The universe is probably a big organism and we are all a part of it. The same way electrons orbit around protons and neutrons is the same way our planets orbit around our sun. They could probably be little planets themselves. So if we could pull back far enough like taking our eyes away from an electron microscope we will probably see the gigantic living organism that we’re a part of. This theory would also work in the reverse. If our solar system is like protons neutron and electrons orbiting then those could possibly be considered planets to with beings like us wondering how big their universe is. Just a thought 🤷
Time? To communicate with other galaxies, the hedron coalider can be used to modulate time since Time is only a perception and is subject to forfeiture in space. Using mass can effect Time. By monitoring Time modulation, we will understand that electrons at radio frequency is not the only way to communicate through space of which is the slowest for of space communication.
Time is a constant, non time was anti matter. which needs to be measured and we do not..yet..how much Quantum theory brings forth the anti-matter answer..there is someone to answer, a theory.
I am getting a feeling that we are on cusp of founding out who and what we are and what this thing we call the universe really is. Could it be has Einstein said, " reality is an illusion albeit a persistent one."
The physics of Einstein, where matter and gravity do not exist, that is the persistent illusion. Otherwise there is an aether, singularities do not exist, and the universe never changes. It is infinite in extent, has no beginning or end, and eternally recycles the same energy forever.
Another possibility is that we are on the cusp of discovering that even what we thought we are turns out to be wrong and we know even less that we did before.
@@oakbellUK We scientifically proved big bang theory absurd over 80 years ago when Edwin Hubble proved that galaxy distribution does not match any explosion idea at all. More recently dark energy has been proven to not exist. Dark energy theory is/was an attempt to explain gravity calculations which prove the big bang theory wrong. Read the Physics of Paradox Null to see how science has failed to use science and what the real conclusions are.
Take A Moment Relax and Enjoy Genius at play 0:29 🎉 stunning Why do we have to fight? 1:25 We are a tiny spot in the galaxy. We must stop this madness. Thank you for your work No god's seen or heard in my foxhole for 45yrs as a veteran of the RAF for 28yrs PTSD is my foxhole Stay Safe Keep Looking up Stay Free 🌎 Peace and love etc 5:22 popcorn 🍿 time ⏲️ 5:35
Why does everyone on RUclips think they have to produce hour long vids with tons of useless info in them ? You advert some miraculous discovery then go on forever with something that isn't even all that groundbreaking. Where is this structure?
Isn't it obvious that the only way to explain this and not contradiction the current model of universe, is to assume there was more then 1 big bang ? Those old far bigger then expected galaxies could only be explained by being part of a neighbour big bang. I do believe that we live in a cyclic universe so massive that can accommodate several big bangs occurring here and there across spacetime...the massive expansion we do observe is what accommodates the ever coming new singularities....just hope those are not named "dark galaxies...". You don't need math to figure this out, just a bit of common sense... BTW i have a small vid trying to explain dark energy with common sense alone with a bit of thought experiment, that comes in line with this matter, Regards!!
i do believe that it may have been more 'dramatic' than we used to believe. I believe the 'explosion' might have been not a singularity but a series of them in a very tightly pack amount of 'time'. that lead some of the mass to be expulse very fast and way before the actual 'normal' universe we see today, making some galaxies way older and further away than we 'normally' see. These 'proto' galaxies were the first form because they were the first to be blast away. Like in a nuclear bomb, there is a first explosion, that compress even more before the big one finally happen. Maybe something similar happened with the big bang.
@jasonpierce4518 There are no creators that build universes, gods do not exist. It's a prehistoric concept invented by people that had no clue of science. So as long as there is no indication of gods, science can not include it as reality. BTW do you really believe ants are trying to figure out an automobile? You are weird.
We shouldn't be afraid to contradict the big bang or any other theory. If observations discredit it then we should abandon it. We possibly are looking at a multiverse where ours collided with another to form the trillions of galaxies we're observing. In other words prior to said collision there was only dark matter. Other tangents are possible and should be explored.
Have you big brains considered that, for us lamen, this is a wonderful introduction into the larger picture? Videos like this speak to the every day person.
@@GospodinJean According tothat theory, God [if you believe in such a thing] must have had a causer. Too many theories, too many ideas about the big questions. I think everyone on this planet should simply admit we don't have a damn clue about the big questions in relation to the universe !
Yeah, a human with a brain the size of a pea. For example, pronouncing 'earky' as 'ear-lee'. Poster doesn't want to take the trouble of getting a human to read the script. It would mean they could not pocket as much money as they get for allowing commercials to interrupt the narration at odd times. Got to think of making money first.
JWST discovers what we previously didn't know about the universe. That's a part of what science is for. That the new telescope exceeds its expectations should come as a welcome bonus. As a somewhat educated layman, I hypothesize that the Universe is at least a trillion years old, and that's what the telescope is trying to show us.
i can’t find it but i’m wuite sure i’m not imagining it either, but before he died i’m quite sure i read that Hawking said there was mo big bang and the universe and space itself is infinite in size and age. He also remarked that his colleages can’t deal with the term infinite in their theories and calculations.
Dark mater is. The left over decay of previous universes that lived and died 60 billion years ago each new universe was more than three times as large as the JWT can observe. The dark mater then became dark energy that recolapsed and created a new universe.😊
Time doesn't exist time is only a man made concept used to keep track of repetitive changes of light if the speed of light was slightly faster or slower due to interferences in its path than u would see gaps and bridges in time
thomas wrote, _"there are better channels without the spin and click bait titles."_ Well, whatever you do, keep those channels to yourself. Don't mention them here, where others might go and consider for themselves whether what you're saying is true. Just say 'there are others' without showing anything because that's a scientific mind at work... right? No? Then what ought someone do when they make a claim? Wait, what? Oh, I see: they should post some kind of substance that supports what they claim? Well, that's absolutely brilliant! Surely, smart people do this all the time, right? No? Well, why not?
@@SayWhut276 Thanks for the channel mentions. Just to be clear, though, my reply to thomas was to make the point that if you say there are better alternatives, but you don't mention what those alternatives are, then you're not being helpful -- it's just noise-making. If thomas truly had better channels in mind when he wrote that, then it would have required less effort to simply mention a few of them, than to be opaque and ad hominem. This reveals that thomas has no interest in being helpful. Instead, he's just here to posture a little, looking for a dopamine hit, so he can feel like he's 'better than' or 'more than' others. It's a fool's errand... an adolescent ego indulgence. So, I called him out. Not that it's likely to have an effect, but sometimes it still feels right to call-out people who are more interested in being critical than in being helpful.
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Interesting how Mars is still referred to as the "Red Planet" when an earlier movie of mars revealed that Mars is not "Red" at all, but due to some protocol meant that a technician readjusted all the monitors so that the redcolors were more emphasised .... it's not red at all......
I personally think this planet should spend our time and money on protecting earth from meteorite strikes..if we are destroyed we won’t be here to see the rest of the universe..makes sense to me.
We can't. The neo-Marxist elites don't think we should spend any more money on space exploration. All that money needs to go to reparations and housing illegal immigrants.
In about 82 trillion years we might get about 1/3 of the way through this rotation around a galactic core group and see the another 100,000,000,000,000th of what we can spot from this mud ball going around it's star and then they'll admit they have no idea how big or how old the universe is. Until then expect frequent surprise discoveries that they'll desperately try to squeeze into their tiny box of understandings.
Is dificult to notice and diferentiate when the images are real ones and when are ilustratives. This new video making technics need to be reconsidered besides the click bait titles we are used to. Or at least please mark them (ilutraive images), (AI generated images), (actually real james web images). Becuase otherwise starts becoming boring. I'm on minute 8, and I am done.
Very poignant question! The so-called “astrophysicists” are trained to invent “guesses” called “hypothesis” or “models” underpinned by man-made “Mathematics” that started with addition and subtraction, then so many cooks appeared to spoil the Cosmic Soup with so many outgrowths called negative numbers, IMAGINARY numbers, and those based on drawings of straight and curved lines…. then Newton coming up with a construct called Calculus to predict planetary motion… Einstein tried to explain Light with what Huygen couldn’t, and then built the Rules of Tensor Calculus atop Newton’s construct give “mathematical shorthands” for Relativity notions, then Schrödinger et al. slapped him with the tiny paws of a black cat in a black box and brought in the Mother of all Lies called Statistics to justify… And then Hubble got the Theory of Red Shift to “explain” his optical telescopic visual observations, as though the Red Shift theory based on Doppler “effect” that conjures our sense of Hearing and Seeing is the only possibility to explain the Red Shift optical illusion of trillions around (like infinite number of the image of a lamp put between two parallel mirrors!)… Then came Ultraviolet telescope, Chandra and a big extra terrestrial Optical telescope Hubble together… and now extended to the Near-Infrared version called James Webb… and now astrophysics kids and their uncles at the big universities and observatories that run on taxpayers money are having OMG kicks from the weird observations coming from the JWST and 😂fun of joking at the “errors” of omissions and commissions of their predecessors, like the demolition Derby played out among the bygone Einstein vs Bohr, Blackhole vs String Theory …. and now the playground is expanding to fill in the 95% of Space not “seen” with the Trinity of telescopes (optical, ultraviolet and infrared) with Dark Energy and Dark Matter, OMG, no more Light and Mass!!! Keep on playing demolition Derby, dudes while your governments keep levying taxes to grow bigger their bellies and buns, destroying former Colonies while your grey matters keep firing neurons to explain your conjured visions with Darkness. See you all after our terrestrial deaths, gathered before the Super Intelligent, bringing us to the Book where All Information is Preserved.
Expansion is apparent on a scale of millions of light years but less than that gravitational attraction may pull them closer like for example the milky way and andromeda
That structure older than the universe is the creators little house on the prairie. Give the scientists some space and time and they will figure it out.
I know I'll go to hell for this comment but I'm very curious if these amazing new images are swaying the minds of those who believe that a divine living being created the universe.
Don't abuse yourself. Dig into the physics of stellar fusion for a few days and look for the paradoxes. Stellar fusion is impossible. The 'older than the universe' galaxy thing is based on those same impossible ideas. It's fictional. There was no big bang. There is no redshift of distant galaxies. That's all fiction. There was no 'beginning' by any valid logic or observation. Our own solar system is at least 14 billion years old which is, according to this video, 'older than the universe.' I can prove that by the orbital systems. Stop letting yourself be wowed or confused by theories of creationism. There was no beginning and there won't be any end.
@@cankhovich1796 The upgrades are not difficult to comprehend. Hubble's fLaw out. Big bang theory out. Stellar fusion out. The universe is infinite in extent. There is nothing indicating any beginning or end. E does not equal m*c squared. Life is where fusion and nucleogenesis occurs (aka the Cosmological Constant).
It is dimensional....if you concentrate high energy at one point in space....you can rip the fabric of space...but no one knows what would happen next....
dimensional stuff is man-made stuff.... its not because we,as human,cant see something that it means its not there or its in another dimension.... the universe is vast enough that it doesnt really need 2000000000 thousands copy of itself.
What I find odd if that we turn this telescope towards the beginning of the universe to see it’s beginning, but they never point it the other way to see how much older or younger the universe is in front of us. Are we in the middle, near the end, near the beginning? Does it go another 14 billion light years in the other direction as well?
According to Hubble's fLaw we are the center of the universe and the point were it all began. Scientists have studied every direction and found no trend indicating otherwise, meaning everything is flying away from us or, because redshift does not exist, there is no general trend of movement at all in any direction. Big bang theory is a myth. The notion that there was any beginning comes from misreading the Bible. Big bang theory originated with George Lemaitre, Catholic Priest.
The expansion is happening in all directions. Look in any direction..... if what you see is blue shifted, then it's coming toward us. If it's red shifted, then it's going away. If you look farther into the distance, then you're looking back in time.
@@srb4722 #1 Redshift as strictly indicated by spectral line shifts have not and cannot be conducted on distant stars. We don't have powerful full-spectrum telescopes and we never have. #2 Take a look at a the Hubble Telescope XDF. Zero apparent redshift. None at all. Same colors of galaxies, same distribution and all the same galaxy types as locally. The universe that far away is exactly the same as the universe around here. There is no evidence of any expansion.
@@srb4722 if this is true then where is the matter and energy coming from? Something has to take the place of the empty space as galaxies fly apart. If the universe has all this matter, antimatter, dark energy and dark matter; then all that either has to be created as we expand or come from some place else. This could be the multiverse or something else
Supposition: For the sake of discussion, let us suppose that the Universe has a limit to it's ability to expand and eventually comes to a stopping point and then begins to contract. If such a thing were possible, would the Universe contract faster than it expanded, or do so more slowly, or at the same speed that it expanded? Any theories?
Average temperature on Mars now is -220 degrees, and people are trying to claim Mars had liquid water on the surface a billion years ago when the sun put out 34% less energy… somehow everyone just goes along.
When God creates something, He creates it already possessing a certain expected age. For instance, when God made Adam, He didn't make him a baby, as there was no one around to take care of him, but as a fully grown adult Man. Same with the Universe.
Is the age of the universe correct, based on the time that it takes light to reach us? What about light beyond that distance? It might not have reached us yet or is too weak to be detected. It is unlikely that the remainder is a void. The difficulty also arises in that human senses conceive existence in terms of volume, but the universe may only be described employing a different characteristic, one whose idea is unknown and not constrained by our senses.
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Thank you EYES 200M for the great pre-Christmas video! 😊
There is actually only one logical answer: Our understanding and view of the infant universe must contain one or more errors: Either the age of our universe is not correct, or we already see a different universe, for example the predecessor or simply a different part of a multiverse. In any case, that means it did NOT start with a singularity but rather we live in a practically timeless infinite cyclic self-renewing universe.
I don't see any other options at the moment... 👀
Just like the Bible says at Ps 90:2:- Before the mountains were born Or you brought forth the earth and the productive land, From everlasting to everlasting, you are God.
Basically, time is infinite in both directions- past and future. Good to see science providing the evidence.
@@mandandi Religion is poison. Drop that god shit. Read a real book and not the bible.
@@mandandi Strange why the bible didn't provide any evidence.
@@vivo-audioWhat evidence would you have wanted? Many of the Bible's teachings are presented in the form of allegories. Some portions of it are rules created for individuals to use to survive as a people and in the New Testament, aside from the Gospel, are how to create and run faith worship groups (churches).
@@chrismason123 Pointing the JWT at the farthest reaches and earliest developments of the universe to gather information on how trillions of galaxies were first formed, does not constitute evidence that a God exists. However, particle physics and astronomy does exists and we now have a pretty good understanding of how the universe was created and the biology that eventually led to the evolution of life. Because life DID evolve, it wasn't created as it says in the Bible. We have overwhelming evidence for this. Science wins over faith every single time.
Did I miss the part where "a huge structure older than the universe was found" or is this just clickbait like everything else now?
Hi Tyrannasauruz. No, it's not just clickbait. I'm older than the universe because I sure feel it right now. Miserable cheers, P.R.
It was talked about around 9:30 to 10:00
Hi Curtis. 9:30 to 10:00 talks about dark matter. Cheers, P.R.
@@juliangalvin7753 Hi Julian. Yep, but it keeps us on our toes. Cheers, P.R.
Ditto, man😕
So where does this "huge structure older than the universe" come into it?
No mention of it in the video whatsoever!
Click bait titles. 👎
Yup 💯
I am 62, had a great science teacher in High School 1976-1979, we were solving quadratic equations with slide rulers to solve outputs based on inputs for Archaeology
It’s amazing to hear about your experience! Learning to solve quadratic equations with slide rules sounds both challenging and rewarding. It’s great that your science teacher encouraged such hands-on problem-solving techniques, especially applied to something as fascinating as archaeology. Teachers like that can make a lasting impact!
Enough is enough. Stop advertising the greatness of the JWST. You have done that now since the beginning of its launch. We get it and do not disagree. But now we want the data. Lets hear about the things it sees and stop just glorifying the JWSTY..
All Glory to JWST.
Yes please. We want DATA!!!
And we want videos that actually contain the information in the teaser. Getting sick of false claims.
Why doesn’t this turn on us and observe asteroids and unusual dark sun and red dwarfs that could be in our own solar system? Isn’t this just a huge distraction tool for our own fate to our earth and we are to survive. Ask the pope who built this bio scope or penned name Lucifer right here in the us. Took over Native American ground to build it.
Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Spectroscopic Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research (LUCIFER).
I am 61 years old. not a scientist a plumber. but as early as I can remember I was told about infinity. It just goes on forever and ever. Well JWST is telling me Infinity it just keeps going. Seems right to me. but I'm just a plumber.
Wait…what about
“to infinity & beyond”?!
Beyond infinity is just more infinity. I'm no math whiz, but I imagine something greater than infinity making as much sense as diving zero.
Some times plumbers are more logical than the scientists
Thanks!
I am 62, had a great science teacher in High School 1976-1979, we were solving quadratic equations with slide rulers to solve outputs based on inputs for chemical reactions. I loved Archaeology and Carbon Dating, read books about Howard Cater, memorized the speed of light, distance to the moon, distance to the sun, what an AU was. Having seen so many scientific corrections over the years, I wonder if our assumptions about radioactive decay, distances in space, the speed of light, etc., are actually accurate. Small errors with such large numbers could cause very different outcomes and resutls.
There is a hypothetical theory (I call it this as I think we need a new categorisation for special ideas that are not proven but can be tested as a hypothesis) that suggests that the measurements for far away objects ARE incorrect and some of the red shift measurements are caused by light decay and therefore distance is not accurate. It is merely hypothetical at this stage but in fact alongside wild hypothesis as primordial black holes forming solar systems accounting for the missing mass measured in stars, and another load of wild ideas including potentially older than the universe galaxies, we COULD be on the verge of some very very interesting discoveries, but then again, maybe not lol.
Science has become a clergy, scientists needs freedoms to test new a new hypothesis and not just imagine that the model in their head is reality, when reality is what we observe, and for that matter we may not even be observing it right anyway.
Onwards we must go.
did i miss something. what 'object' did JWST find that's older than the universe (as the title informs us)?
Usual clickbait titles
I believe they said, "halo dark matter objects"
I was randomly reading the comments while watching the video and you reminded me why I clicked this video.
Misleading and outright false RUclips video titles are a problem. I hope it's being worked on.
Welcome to RUclips 😂
We have one perspective of the vast cosmos, we probably aren't scratching the surface of the mystery...
Who the hell ever decided that 'our' big bang is exclusive in all eternity, that there aren't other big bang's merging with ours etc etc? It's crazy how as beings capable of incredible thought, we continue to limit ourselves to such linear thinking.
there was a big bounce not a big bang, we know this because singularities are mathematical errors, it means relativity doesn't work at that level.
there was a big bounce not a big bang, we know this because singularities are mathematical errors, it means relativity doesn't work at that level.
Yes !
1) Linear thinking is a big constraint in all our thought processes !
2) Big bounce is a better word than big bang !?.
After decades .... It may be described as a ' Big - Blip '
All the same , the video is good.
But can be in 2 parts .i) Sire cosmos ii) and Mr . Mars
The difference is that we have evidence for one Big Bang. We don't have evidence for two or more. It's that simple. You either base your science on evidence or you're not a scientist.
@@sriramamurtikakarla455 This video is terrible ... just like all of this clown's other videos. For one, it's just clickbait. He keeps saying that everything Webb finds is older than the universe but astronomers have never said that about the JWST discoveries. He's just making up BS.
What if we are really a Universe in a Cosmos of Universes? Like a garden of universes.... How are galaxies crossing paths if there was a "big bang" that supposedly blew everything outward? And, if these galaxies are flying outward, why are they pointed in all different types of directions?
"In the words of Gupta, “Our newly-devised model stretches the galaxy formation time by several billion years, making the universe 26.7 billion years old, and not 13.7 as previously estimated.” The universe might be much older than we thought, and that could shed light on some of its biggest mysteries."
So yes, it still isn't close to 6,000 years old.
Yes I agree
I have wondered that same thing, but I think the answer is related to the nature of the expansion. We cannot imagine an "explosion" in space, which indeed would send energy outward in every direction that isn't obstructed. That is not what the Big Bang describes. The Big Bang describes the origin of the electromagnetic (ie space-time) continuum itself, with all the warpage that results. As mass takes form within this framework - both the kind we know and the "dark" kind that is mysterious, it bends and warps the universe unevenly. But a physicist would need to confirm me on that.
more word salad than logic.
good question. in space (vacuum) these objects should only travel in the direction it was first blown out, and in a STRAIGHT line, according to all known physics.
Apparently, there may be a bias against a possibility of a supernatural power, (even WITHOUT any evidence proving there can’t be a transcendent supernatural power).
That bias is similar to presupposing the universe gradually evolved WITHOUT observing a single evolving galaxy or star anywhere in the universe, throughout its time of existence.
God Is Amazing.
It cannot be older than the universe, but it can be older than the 13.7 billion years we have arrived at is the age of the universe, understood
One logical explanation of Webb's observations is that the universe was instantly fully formed at its very beginning , complete with all of its galaxies already mature. Why can't that possibility be considered? Is there a bias against that possibility?
Yes, there is a logical bias, because that supposes the existance of supernatural powers. No such powers has yet been proved in any way of form.
So the bias is against a supernatural power, (even without evidence proving there can’t be any transcendent supernatural power). That bias is like presupposing the universe gradually evolved without observing a single evolving galaxy or star anywhere in the universe, throughout its time of existence. @@zeriousvolt1245
@@zeriousvolt1245 Then you have been asleep at the wheel.
I think the older variety of that theory was called "Steady-State Cosmology". It was mainly expounded by Fred Hoyle, and argued that creation is an ever-ongoing process: matter, stars and galaxies have always been created anew, to fill in for galaxies and stars that have decayed or ended up disintegrating due to "Entropic cold death". The universe, therefore, would be eternal and essentially endless. The theory fell out of favour with astronomers more than fifry years ago.
@superdave19855 Same thing as letting Jesus take the wheel.
The Universe means everything. Nothing can be older than everything, as that would mean it was older than itself.
Profound.
@@Justone372 Not really profound, just true. It's more like the video title is being lurid.
@@Nonononono_Ohno "The Universe" always means The Universe as we know it . . . or believe it to. be.
Someone anyone show me one grain of sand turning into 2 or one grain getting bigger before my eyes like a big bang would have done
Someone Anyone
@@MrCrowebobby Sure. And that also means that it includes everything that we can now see, or will be able to see in the future when telescopes get better. Thus, I hope you will agree, it's not possible to detect anything that's older than the universe itself.
if you want to see the huge structure that they are talking about click here -> 26:15
Thia is amazing.I subscribed.
The AI narrating this video has some strange pronunciation quirks.
"Strange" or, as I'd like to describe them; "INFURIATING".
Yeah, I noticed. But they are few and far between. To me it's amazing that robot voices are now this good.
It's horrible
How do u no it's an AI ,,?
Maybe it pronounces that way because the person who programmed it pronounces those words that way.
Maybe I'm thick but surely if you go back to the big bang,you will eventually go past and out the other side so the further you look back the more you come back to the present time, even though you will be further away by time. If the universe is 13 billion years old, my logic would be that you should be able to see 26 billion light years to the other side. Also on the basis the further you look back, you will be looking across time and will therefore see brighter bigger universes
im thicker, does this mean that we are at mile marker 1
What did I miss and what huge structure was detected. Besides that, it was a great video, thanks.
Besides the click baiting? That game messes with people's time.
I agree, this was a huge clickbait title and the producer should be ashamed
That's a bold statement, because of new discoveries we don't know how old the universe is.
I'll probably sound like a simpleton to ask such a question in this forum but can someone help me understand how this fascinating knowledge is going to be useful to life here on Earth. Way too far out to be searching for Earth bound asteroids so are we trying to prove or disprove Genesis 1? What else could it be? Anyway I've always wanted to ask a scientist this question. Thank you.
@@donkeyearrs It's interesting stuff, but probably useless at this point in time.
@@donkeyearrs Not everyone believes the Bible there are many other religions in the world. The goal with science generally isn't to "disprove genesis" which is just laughable to even hear someone say, but to discover actual answers or truths, opposed to believing something you read in a book that was written by men thousands of years ago.
@@donkeyearrs questionning about Genesis 1 proves that these knowledge are completely useless for a stupid specie like us.
Is it possible the universe is an expanding sphere with galaxies on all sides of the center…and Webb is looking beyond the Big Bang epicenter to galaxies on the far side?
Yes, this is an interesting assumption and in some parts quite close to my ideas! That would explain perfectly the different expansion speeds (Hubble tension)...
This also means that the universe is multi-dimensional and automatically a multiverse (here I would agree 100%)...
I am always happy when I discover imagination and creative thoughts with fellow human beings, that brings us on the right way! 😃
No. There was no center to the big bang. The center of the big bang was a center in time, not in space, because the big bang happened everywhere.
Listen to yourself. First of all, what are the chances earth sits the EXACT CENTER of it all? Do you really believe a big bang happened now? It's a stupid as flat earth theory
I Thought space and time was the same thing? How can a big bang from a singularity be everywhere? Yes, it goes everywhere in all directions in my limited view
.@@wefinishthisnow3883
About 6 years ago. The front page of the seattle times said " seeds " of the universe. The web telescope got within 174000 years of the beginning of the universe. There was nothing but dot ( seeds ) . All life on earth is from seeds. It appears the universe is from seeds, also.
Get the seeds. Up in smoke.
Something as huge as the Universe cannot be described in 2 words. The idea that we thought we would get it right first time is a very childlike assumption. I think it will be a long time before we grasp such understanding. In my opinion this is a good thing because we humans need something to think about if we didn't have that what good would life be. My favorite thing to do is learn new things. It's like nothing can be more exciting than learning. I am 56 years old and I still love to learn new things.
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Another awesome video my friend. Great content. Thank-you.
In the book I published almost 3 months before the JWST was launched, on page 48 I wrote quote "The JWST, James Webb Space Telescope will discover old, fully grown galaxies as far as the telescope can see, further than 13.8 billion light-years away." And that's what they found. Enough said.
Pictures beautiful and stunning, 👍
"Your videos always leave me in awe and eager to learn more about the mysteries of the universe. Thank you for fueling my curiosity.
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Same. Thank you for these mind expanding posts. There is no threat to us as a species, realizing we don’t know everything and that our theories do not match the evidence. It’s a learning process that never ends perhaps.
So nice to have this messages about the universe we learn new things about unsolved mysteries in astronomy far away from us difficult to understand must say Bravissimo ☆☆☆☆☆
It is interesting to observe read or listen to reactions of those whose life's work has been upended by these new observations. New scientific paradigms are unsettling for those who smugly thought they had the "answer". I always felt that the "big bang" was just a one of many events in time and space. It is likely we may find that it is rather common place in the grand scheme of things. Hubris is sadly a common place affliction which limits our ability to expand our quest for knowledge.
I'm detecting a major emission of hubris from your own galaxy. You just watched a video that offered next to nothing quantifiable that 'upends' our understanding of the universe much less supports your musings. And the whole purpose of the telescope is to discover new things, hard to see how our quest for knowledge is being held back.
@@bearclaw5115
His reference is to the telescope itself, not this poorly made video. Yeah, blame it on the video and you can avoid the problems the telescope is causing the theorists.
@@dustydesert1674 The James Webb isn't causing problems. It's discovering things we didn't know before. Scientists then try to make sense of it until theories can be dismissed or proven into fact. That's how science works. There is no blame in science. The blame comes from ignorant people who can't stand being too stupid to understand science.
Scientists aren't smug. Stupid people who baselessly think they know better than scientists are smug. "I always *FELT* ...." THAT'S the problem! You don't THINK, you feel. The ability to expand 'our' quest for knowledge, comes from discovery, study, theorize, calculate and proove. Not from 'feeling'.
@@arturama8581 I appear to have touched a nerve. Who are you to presume that I am not a scientist? Have you ever engaged in debates within the scientific community? I think not. I would suggest that read about what happens with a paradigm shift in science occurs.
Some people just don't have the mental capacity to understand that the universe is infinite James web is just piercing into the depths of the cosmos the next space scope mankind develops will definitely be better and will truly show mankind that it has no end
No huge structure was shown or discussed!
Hi Joey. They use the same headline philosophy that the newspaper industry does: NEVER THE LET FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD HEADLINE. Cheers, P.R.
Phenomenal presentation
God spoke it into existence and it spontaneously appeared in all of its magnificence and splendor.
Your in dream land.
@@srb4722beautiful dream
@@srb4722 and you know? ......pause.......please fill me in
There is no god. Grow up.
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
The understanding of the universe in its physical form also defines the existence if of the development of life. Human ingenuity has expanded consciousness itself. This presentation helped to define our place in the universe. Creation yields truth as to how life evolved and develops. The potential scope of intelligent life across the universe may reveal other James Webb Space Telescopes that are not of human origin. The structure of the early universe yields how life develops as well. The age of the universe went from 13.8 billion years to 26.7 billion years. Explaining physical development requires thinking outside of direct observation. Bravo.
Thank you! You have no idea how awesome, seeing this is and how it relates to me spiritually and answers many questions.
This is absolutely amazing
From the idea of an increase of atmosphere on Mars with diminished solar bombardment would indicate if we added a moon as Earth has. This would increase the magnetic field of Mars allowing for an atmosphere to flourish or something similar. If we could only find a moon and had the tech to move it there or build one.
what's to say that our moon wasn't placed there for the very reason?
You need a strong magnetic field which requires a strong current in a liquid ferrometal core like earth. Mars has none today, maybe in the beginning of time. Probably the core solidified or was too small...
It is theorized that earths moon creates our high core temperatures to have the magneto effect for our magnetic field.
@@charharn7011 The moon could be causing heating due to gravitational friction.
@@DilbertMucsurprisingly Mars's core is liquid. For a strong magnetic field (like Earth has had for about 1 billion years) you need solid inner core and liquid outer core (iron/nickel).
We are infants exploring the unknown, all our understanding is based on what we could observe or prove thru science. Having our understanding of the Universe challenged is not a bad thing, but a preunderstanding that are now being questioned by the ability of what we had, not what we now Have. The Quest remains and finding of answers is just restarting.
Let's take what we already know and have proven and apply it to our universe: Imagine if there were no beginning, and instead, the universe is over and over again shaped by a tremendously large set of gravityy waves coming from outside our universe. Something so large that we cannot fathom (for example, wavelengths of billions of light-years!). This could result in an ever expanding and contracting universe, that never reaches a singularity, but looks like it does from our end of the curve; Furthermore, galaxy cores perhaps can "survive" being squished through the eons, which is how we have such a tremendous variation of many galaxies just a few 100 million years since the so-called "big bang". Thank you for listening to my ted talk!
It's possible. We humans may never know. At least you didn't fall into the God of the Gaps Theory ✌️
El , thanks . I am with you ! 🌒🤷🏻♂️🤔🥺🤓
Oh yeah! I'm just a love machine and I won't work for nobody but you! Pooh yeah!
the original meaning of "Universe" was *all that IS, known or unknown, seen or unseen* - therefore it includes 'multiverse' the 'other side' and even god - that meaning has been recently subverted to meet an agenda
according to Natural Universal Law (the first law of thermodynamics, aka the law of conservation of energy) the Universe was not created, but is in fact *eternal*
inside galaxy cores there are white holes (=quasars) We R wrong all the time. Galaxies are created from the matter ejected from these quasars
Where in all of your commentary is the reference to ...... " (James Webb) just detected a huge structure, older than the Universe"? I am curious, as your title uses this "hook" to draw in your audience, including me.
Logic would state that our universe is recyclable and time is unimaginable🌠
I mean our model is nearly 100 years old, of course it is not complete,It's just a question of our technological development and we will develop a new theory. This will also result in new questions, it is a dynamic process that never ends! It would be nothing more than a miracle if we could already explain the universe
And still, cosmologists and astrophysicists hold talks as if they would know everything.
@@Nyruami absolutely!
Less procrastinating about JWST and more something worthwhile than the same old story tweaked over and over.
What it detected was Brian Cox, the creator of the Universe.
Okay
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Thank for this video It is rare that we get a scientific video that is not worried about disrupting the world of elite funding to promote science to reflect that of the funder rather then the actual science.
To be honest , the quality of your astronomical videos are so precious and attractive that i am compelled to repeat watching them. As a person having interested mind for astronomy , i have been dreaming , awaiting 2 major astronomical event expected to happen withing our life times one event is betalgeuse supernova. The other one is heylis comet which will be visible in year 2062.. i couldnt see it , when earth encountered it in 1986 , because i was a small child. Next time , i will see it , as a 83 years old person.
So much for the notion of "settled science."
I’m starting to believe that the universe is a lot older than 26 billion years and goes on forever. There probably never was a “big bang”.
The universe is probably a big organism and we are all a part of it. The same way electrons orbit around protons and neutrons is the same way our planets orbit around our sun. They could probably be little planets themselves.
So if we could pull back far enough like taking our eyes away from an electron microscope we will probably see the gigantic living organism that we’re a part of.
This theory would also work in the reverse. If our solar system is like protons neutron and electrons orbiting then those could possibly be considered planets to with beings like us wondering how big their universe is.
Just a thought 🤷
Time? To communicate with other galaxies, the hedron coalider can be used to modulate time since Time is only a perception and is subject to forfeiture in space. Using mass can effect Time. By monitoring Time modulation, we will understand that electrons at radio frequency is not the only way to communicate through space of which is the slowest for of space communication.
Time is a constant, non time was anti matter. which needs to be measured and we do not..yet..how much Quantum theory brings forth the anti-matter answer..there is someone to answer, a theory.
I am getting a feeling that we are on cusp of founding out who and what we are and what this thing we call the universe really is. Could it be has Einstein said, " reality is an illusion albeit a persistent one."
We're humans. Question answered.
The physics of Einstein, where matter and gravity do not exist, that is the persistent illusion. Otherwise there is an aether, singularities do not exist, and the universe never changes. It is infinite in extent, has no beginning or end, and eternally recycles the same energy forever.
Another possibility is that we are on the cusp of discovering that even what we thought we are turns out to be wrong and we know even less that we did before.
@@oakbellUK We scientifically proved big bang theory absurd over 80 years ago when Edwin Hubble proved that galaxy distribution does not match any explosion idea at all.
More recently dark energy has been proven to not exist. Dark energy theory is/was an attempt to explain gravity calculations which prove the big bang theory wrong. Read the Physics of Paradox Null to see how science has failed to use science and what the real conclusions are.
who...Gods children
what...eternal beings
universe...God creation
Take A Moment Relax and Enjoy Genius at play 0:29
🎉 stunning
Why do we have to fight?
1:25
We are a tiny spot in the galaxy.
We must stop this madness.
Thank you for your work
No god's seen or heard in my foxhole for 45yrs as a veteran of the RAF for 28yrs
PTSD is my foxhole
Stay Safe
Keep Looking up
Stay Free 🌎 Peace and love etc 5:22 popcorn 🍿 time ⏲️ 5:35
Thanks for the click bait Once again Yes JWST is awesome and It didn’t catch anything your title said it did
Damn liars
Why does everyone on RUclips think they have to produce hour long vids with tons of useless info in them ? You advert some miraculous discovery then go on forever with something that isn't even all that groundbreaking. Where is this structure?
Isn't it obvious that the only way to explain this and not contradiction the current model of universe, is to assume there was more then 1 big bang ? Those old far bigger then expected galaxies could only be explained by being part of a neighbour big bang. I do believe that we live in a cyclic universe so massive that can accommodate several big bangs occurring here and there across spacetime...the massive expansion we do observe is what accommodates the ever coming new singularities....just hope those are not named "dark galaxies...". You don't need math to figure this out, just a bit of common sense... BTW i have a small vid trying to explain dark energy with common sense alone with a bit of thought experiment, that comes in line with this matter, Regards!!
@jasonpierce4518 So true! Silly scientific types, when will they learn that a magic man in the sky is always a better explanation.
i do believe that it may have been more 'dramatic' than we used to believe. I believe the 'explosion' might have been not a singularity but a series of them in a very tightly pack amount of 'time'. that lead some of the mass to be expulse very fast and way before the actual 'normal' universe we see today, making some galaxies way older and further away than we 'normally' see. These 'proto' galaxies were the first form because they were the first to be blast away. Like in a nuclear bomb, there is a first explosion, that compress even more before the big one finally happen. Maybe something similar happened with the big bang.
@jasonpierce4518 There are no creators that build universes, gods do not exist. It's a prehistoric concept invented by people that had no clue of science. So as long as there is no indication of gods, science can not include it as reality. BTW do you really believe ants are trying to figure out an automobile? You are weird.
We shouldn't be afraid to contradict the big bang or any other theory. If observations discredit it then we should abandon it. We possibly are looking at a multiverse where ours collided with another to form the trillions of galaxies we're observing. In other words prior to said collision there was only dark matter. Other tangents are possible and should be explored.
@jasonpierce4518 a creator is the least probable and logical explanation... good luck try again
Have you big brains considered that, for us lamen, this is a wonderful introduction into the larger picture? Videos like this speak to the every day person.
How could anything be older than the universe?
There could be many/infinite universes. That's how.
Because everything that came to existence has to have a cause and every cause has a causer and every cause exists before the event it caused
@@GospodinJean According tothat theory, God [if you believe in such a thing] must have had a causer. Too many theories, too many ideas about the big questions. I think everyone on this planet should simply admit we don't have a damn clue about the big questions in relation to the universe !
Now we understand. Therefore we are.
That for which we are to become! Are we not after all from the Stars!
Thank you Mr AI voice-over. You sound almost human.
Yeah, a human with a brain the size of a pea. For example, pronouncing 'earky' as 'ear-lee'. Poster doesn't want to take the trouble of getting a human to read the script. It would mean they could not pocket as much money as they get for allowing commercials to interrupt the narration at odd times. Got to think of making money first.
JWST discovers what we previously didn't know about the universe. That's a part of what science is for. That the new telescope exceeds its expectations should come as a welcome bonus. As a somewhat educated layman, I hypothesize that the Universe is at least a trillion years old, and that's what the telescope is trying to show us.
i can’t find it but i’m wuite sure i’m not imagining it either, but before he died i’m quite sure i read that Hawking said there was mo big bang and the universe and space itself is infinite in size and age. He also remarked that his colleages can’t deal with the term infinite in their theories and calculations.
ae you saying that SH argued there was more than one biug bang going on?
don’t recall that exactly but my inderstanding of a lot of big bangs could be super novas which do happen on a fairly constant basis.
What is the screw-shaped galaxy at 12:57, and if viewed from above, is it a spiral?
Dark mater is. The left over decay of previous universes that lived and died 60 billion years ago each new universe was more than three times as large as the JWT can observe. The dark mater then became dark energy that recolapsed and created a new universe.😊
If there are more well-formed early galaxies than expected, then maybe time was running at a different rate just after big bang ...
Time only exists on earth.
@@BeingHisCreationYou’re a moron. 😂
@@BeingHisCreationYou’re someone who has literally never opened a science textbook at all.
@@BeingHisCreation😂
Time doesn't exist time is only a man made concept used to keep track of repetitive changes of light if the speed of light was slightly faster or slower due to interferences in its path than u would see gaps and bridges in time
Thank you will visit again
if its older than the universe than the expected age of the universe is wrong again. The problem is the way they age the universe is completely wrong.
Albert E. laugh at "big beng" there was not big beng! But, thank you for the podcast, Awsome video! Thank you! marry Christmas🌲
Sounds like intelligent design to me.. like as if the universe was spoke into existence ♾️ 🤔
Wonderful video,thankyou
If older than the universe, you need to redefine the universe.
Exactly
WOW....brilliant, mind-boggling, hmmm so... star stuff turned on its head, and then some, thanks so much there!
This is a very sensationalist interpretation of work completed so far, there are better channels without the spin and click bait titles.
thomas wrote, _"there are better channels without the spin and click bait titles."_
Well, whatever you do, keep those channels to yourself. Don't mention them here, where others might go and consider for themselves whether what you're saying is true. Just say 'there are others' without showing anything because that's a scientific mind at work... right?
No?
Then what ought someone do when they make a claim? Wait, what? Oh, I see: they should post some kind of substance that supports what they claim? Well, that's absolutely brilliant! Surely, smart people do this all the time, right?
No?
Well, why not?
@@RichardHarlosPut your bong away and take a breath.
@@thomasowens5824 I have a better idea: Lose the presumptuous ad hominem and name the channels.
@@SayWhut276 Thanks for the channel mentions.
Just to be clear, though, my reply to thomas was to make the point that if you say there are better alternatives, but you don't mention what those alternatives are, then you're not being helpful -- it's just noise-making.
If thomas truly had better channels in mind when he wrote that, then it would have required less effort to simply mention a few of them, than to be opaque and ad hominem.
This reveals that thomas has no interest in being helpful. Instead, he's just here to posture a little, looking for a dopamine hit, so he can feel like he's 'better than' or 'more than' others. It's a fool's errand... an adolescent ego indulgence.
So, I called him out. Not that it's likely to have an effect, but sometimes it still feels right to call-out people who are more interested in being critical than in being helpful.
"Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could" The Sound of Music.
"I'm constantly amazed by the depth of knowledge and expertise you share through your videos. Thank you for being a constant source of enlightenment.
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Seconded. Ty!
love the pictures...!!!
Interesting how Mars is still referred to as the "Red Planet" when an earlier movie of mars revealed that Mars is not "Red" at all, but due to some protocol meant that a technician readjusted all the monitors so that the redcolors were more emphasised .... it's not red at all......
It's still rather reddish, just not as red as the photos suggest. It's all the iron oxide (rust) in the soil.
I personally think this planet should spend our time and money on protecting earth from meteorite strikes..if we are destroyed we won’t be here to see the rest of the universe..makes sense to me.
We already do that.
It seems far more likely that we will destroy ourselves with overpopulation and habitat destruction.
We can't. The neo-Marxist elites don't think we should spend any more money on space exploration. All that money needs to go to reparations and housing illegal immigrants.
This is even more proof that the universe is older than we thought.
'Proof'? Where is the proof??
In about 82 trillion years we might get about 1/3 of the way through this rotation around a galactic core group and see the another 100,000,000,000,000th of what we can spot from this mud ball going around it's star and then they'll admit they have no idea how big or how old the universe is. Until then expect frequent surprise discoveries that they'll desperately try to squeeze into their tiny box of understandings.
Is dificult to notice and diferentiate when the images are real ones and when are ilustratives. This new video making technics need to be reconsidered besides the click bait titles we are used to. Or at least please mark them (ilutraive images), (AI generated images), (actually real james web images). Becuase otherwise starts becoming boring. I'm on minute 8, and I am done.
How can galaxies collide if they are constantly expanding?
Very poignant question! The so-called “astrophysicists” are trained to invent “guesses” called “hypothesis” or “models” underpinned by man-made
“Mathematics” that started with addition and subtraction, then so many cooks appeared to spoil the Cosmic Soup with so many outgrowths called negative numbers, IMAGINARY numbers, and those based on drawings of straight and curved lines…. then Newton coming up with a construct called Calculus to predict planetary motion… Einstein tried to explain Light with what Huygen couldn’t, and then built the Rules of Tensor Calculus atop Newton’s construct give “mathematical shorthands” for Relativity notions, then Schrödinger et al. slapped him with the tiny paws of a black cat in a black box and brought in the Mother of all Lies called Statistics to justify…
And then Hubble got the Theory of Red Shift to “explain” his optical telescopic visual observations, as though the Red Shift theory based on Doppler “effect” that conjures our sense of Hearing and Seeing is the only possibility to explain the Red Shift optical illusion of trillions around (like infinite number of the image of a lamp put between two parallel mirrors!)…
Then came Ultraviolet telescope, Chandra and a big extra terrestrial Optical telescope Hubble together… and now extended to the Near-Infrared version called James Webb… and now astrophysics kids and their uncles at the big universities and observatories that run on taxpayers money are having OMG kicks from the weird observations coming from the JWST and 😂fun of joking at the “errors” of omissions and commissions of their predecessors, like the demolition Derby played out among the bygone Einstein vs Bohr, Blackhole vs String Theory …. and now the playground is expanding to fill in the 95% of Space not “seen” with the Trinity of telescopes (optical, ultraviolet and infrared) with Dark Energy and Dark Matter, OMG, no more Light and Mass!!!
Keep on playing demolition Derby, dudes while your governments keep levying taxes to grow bigger their bellies and buns, destroying former Colonies while your grey matters keep firing neurons to explain your conjured visions with Darkness.
See you all after our terrestrial deaths, gathered before the Super Intelligent, bringing us to the Book where All Information is Preserved.
The universe is expanding and galaxies collide if one is in the path of the other.
Expansion is apparent on a scale of millions of light years but less than that gravitational attraction may pull them closer like for example the milky way and andromeda
Great show !!!
Just another damn CLICK BAIT. Where was this so called "picture" of God ? Getting old.
When we KNOW, then what do we do? Interesting.
That structure older than the universe is the creators little house on the prairie. Give the scientists some space and time and they will figure it out.
I know I'll go to hell for this comment but I'm very curious if these amazing new images are swaying the minds of those who believe that a divine living being created the universe.
"A galaxy that is older than the universe" A new concept that I will have hard time wrapping my head around.
Are you making fun of our intelligence? How can a galaxy be older than the universe like you say at 1:08 ?
Don't abuse yourself. Dig into the physics of stellar fusion for a few days and look for the paradoxes. Stellar fusion is impossible. The 'older than the universe' galaxy thing is based on those same impossible ideas. It's fictional. There was no big bang. There is no redshift of distant galaxies. That's all fiction. There was no 'beginning' by any valid logic or observation. Our own solar system is at least 14 billion years old which is, according to this video, 'older than the universe.' I can prove that by the orbital systems. Stop letting yourself be wowed or confused by theories of creationism. There was no beginning and there won't be any end.
current methods of temporal calculation are in need of an upgrade (as are many other systems of "science")
@@cankhovich1796 The upgrades are not difficult to comprehend. Hubble's fLaw out. Big bang theory out. Stellar fusion out. The universe is infinite in extent. There is nothing indicating any beginning or end. E does not equal m*c squared. Life is where fusion and nucleogenesis occurs (aka the Cosmological Constant).
We cannot say another galaxy is older than the universe until we know for sure how old are universe is..we don’t know yet.
James Webb just shows we are only scratching the surface, it's dimensional, as we call it fabric of time
It is dimensional....if you concentrate high energy at one point in space....you can rip the fabric of space...but no one knows what would happen next....
dimensional stuff is man-made stuff.... its not because we,as human,cant see something that it means its not there or its in another dimension.... the universe is vast enough that it doesnt really need 2000000000 thousands copy of itself.
@@sloine-q5l exactly there is no need to add some dimensional concept to it,the unvierse is vast enough that it doesnt need 200000 copies of itself.
What I find odd if that we turn this telescope towards the beginning of the universe to see it’s beginning, but they never point it the other way to see how much older or younger the universe is in front of us. Are we in the middle, near the end, near the beginning? Does it go another 14 billion light years in the other direction as well?
According to Hubble's fLaw we are the center of the universe and the point were it all began. Scientists have studied every direction and found no trend indicating otherwise, meaning everything is flying away from us or, because redshift does not exist, there is no general trend of movement at all in any direction. Big bang theory is a myth. The notion that there was any beginning comes from misreading the Bible. Big bang theory originated with George Lemaitre, Catholic Priest.
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The expansion is happening in all directions. Look in any direction..... if what you see is blue shifted, then it's coming toward us. If it's red shifted, then it's going away. If you look farther into the distance, then you're looking back in time.
@@srb4722 #1 Redshift as strictly indicated by spectral line shifts have not and cannot be conducted on distant stars. We don't have powerful full-spectrum telescopes and we never have. #2 Take a look at a the Hubble Telescope XDF. Zero apparent redshift. None at all. Same colors of galaxies, same distribution and all the same galaxy types as locally. The universe that far away is exactly the same as the universe around here.
There is no evidence of any expansion.
@@srb4722 if this is true then where is the matter and energy coming from? Something has to take the place of the empty space as galaxies fly apart. If the universe has all this matter, antimatter, dark energy and dark matter; then all that either has to be created as we expand or come from some place else. This could be the multiverse or something else
The age calculations being thrown around here are completely wrong 🤦♂️
The narration is AI!
we are time travelers in a sense, yes we are traveling through space and we will pass time zones of space , this is everexpanding
Don't you just love it when AI readers hit spelling mistakes in the script?
Supposition: For the sake of discussion, let us suppose that the Universe has a limit to it's ability to expand and eventually comes to a stopping point and then begins to contract. If such a thing were possible, would the Universe contract faster than it expanded, or do so more slowly, or at the same speed that it expanded? Any theories?
Imagine everything they've discovered with the James Webb that they're not telling us.
The computer generated voice is a mess!! We think we know but we can only guess. Besides what does it matter to short lived creatures like us anyway?!
So, it was not THE big bang, it was just OUR big bang. Logic and probability says that other bangs must exist in various stages.
@zeriousvolt1245: Yes, I agree, well thought out.
Of which you have zero evidence.
Average temperature on Mars now is -220 degrees, and people are trying to claim Mars had liquid water on the surface a billion years ago when the sun put out 34% less energy… somehow everyone just goes along.
When God creates something, He creates it already possessing a certain expected age. For instance, when God made Adam, He didn't make him a baby, as there was no one around to take care of him, but as a fully grown adult Man. Same with the Universe.
Who did Cain, Abel & Seth marry...?
Is the age of the universe correct, based on the time that it takes light to reach us? What about light beyond that distance? It might not have reached us yet or is too weak to be detected. It is unlikely that the remainder is a void. The difficulty also arises in that human senses conceive existence in terms of volume, but the universe may only be described employing a different characteristic, one whose idea is unknown and not constrained by our senses.
This is so sad. Please stop all of this.
How so? I was trying to not ask but I really want to know how you see this as sad and ask to stop it…