I didn't use Treintalia because was more expensive than Italo, but Italo was superb. Reached 300km/h form Fierenze to Naples at some times. The trip on smart, pretty comfortable to be honest. I want more Italo tripa when go back to Italy. The people of the train even allowed us to change seats because my girlfriend was dizzy due to being sit backwards.
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Unfortunately all the ETR 675's are without tilting mechanism. That's because those Pendolino's most of the time will run on high speed lines. That's why Italo choosed, during the construction of the trains, to not install the "Tiltronix" (tilt mechanism).
I am a little confused here, having traveled on both (and I am still amazed that train service is something the Italians do so well), in comparing Frecciarossa Executive Class and Italo Executive, well it's not even close, Frecciarossa you get hot meals, a lot better seats, oh heck the list goes on. I am actually sitting here jetlagged when I should be heading to bed, but am I missing something ?
That’s in their true first class, which I don’t cover. I was trying to compare like-for-like with Italo. But Trenitalia in Spain (iryo) offers full meals in business class…
If you are looking for a true premium experience then you should choose trenitalia with their executive class. Otherwise they are both good with Italo being better.
Indeed, I briefly mention Trenitalia’s executive class in that video, but I couldn’t rationalize the expense, especially on short rides within Emilia Romagna. I’m sure I’ll try it at some point.
I would like to use Italo, but for some reason in the fall, they don't have any early trains out of Rome. I don't know whether to wait and see if they open up earlier times, or go ahead and book Trenitalia. But, I'm leaning toward the latter.
I have to disagree. I just booked tickets for my family of six and looked at both trenitalia and italo- I had to book four routes and looked at both companies using their best family discount prices and Trenitalia was by far the best deal for each route and for each date, and I was able to book business class tickets for cheaper than their standard economy. For a family trenitalia offers the discount for groups of 1-5 but italo makes it harder as it's only for groups of 1-4 and the tickets are still quite expensive. I was also looking early for summer dates and the prices should have been lower. For our purposes, trenitalia was the best option since the adults paid half price and the kids were free. Trenitalia counts kids as 14 and under while Italo only counts them as kids 11 and under. It's a no brainer than Trenitalia is the better option for families and groups.
That’s a fair point, I was traveling by myself or with only one other person. Additionally, I know Trenitalia can do better, that’s what irks me. Iryo in Spain, owned by Trenitalia and running the same trains is on another level, and I only wish they brought that level of service to Italy. Still, I think the competition from Italo is only good for consumers.
Yes, I'm sure when you're only looking for one or two tickets it's easier to find a discount... and yes I'm sure that Italo can only be good for competition but I was surprised that their prices were not even close to Trenitalia's prices when I was looking months ahead to buy. @@Travelog
Great video and very informative. Is there space for large suitcases in the headspace storage or only carry on sizes. Where would we put large suitcases on the train?
Glad you liked it! Yes, there are luggage storage racks at the beginning and end of each car. I only ever travel with a roller board that is carry on size, but there is plenty of room for luggage.
@@Travelog well it really just depends on which part of the city you want to reach, but normally I find it easier (and some times cheaper) to use the bus 😄
travelling dec 22 , i purchased an downloaded my ticket online, do i still need to do anything when i go to roma termini to board my train? do i need to register or something? do i just need the qr code or do i need to print my tickets at home
Yep, at Roma termini there are turnstiles that you scan your qr at, just like boarding a plane these days. In other stations you just get on and show the QR code to the conductor when the come by.
[Checks Script]: "This train was an ETR675, with a top speed of 250kpmg, which is slightly slower than the older Ital stock of AVG trains (275) or the Freccerossa 1000 (300kpmh)." [Googles it]: Yes, the Freccerossa 1000 is technically certified as going 360kph and theoretically as fast as 400kph, but operationally it only hits 300. The TGV technically hit 575kph in 2007, but operationally it never gets anywhere near that (only 300kph). I always focus on what speeds you can actually expect when taking it.
Sorry but you made MAAANY mistakes. Like the top speed of the ETR 575 being 275 km/h while it's the same as the Frecciarossa 1000's 300 km/h. Or the ETR 675 being a tilting train while in reality it's just a non-tilting Pendolino shell. I advise you to reeeeeally check your facts next time before making a otherwise very nice video.
I didn't use Treintalia because was more expensive than Italo, but Italo was superb. Reached 300km/h form Fierenze to Naples at some times. The trip on smart, pretty comfortable to be honest. I want more Italo tripa when go back to Italy. The people of the train even allowed us to change seats because my girlfriend was dizzy due to being sit backwards.
I’ve watched a ton of videos on Italian train travel and this was one of the most helpful in terms of giving useful comparisons with competitor services and describing potential issues to be aware of
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both TreniItalien and Italo look superb and modern
Great video as always :) you have a really underrated channel!
Unfortunately all the ETR 675's are without tilting mechanism. That's because those Pendolino's most of the time will run on high speed lines. That's why Italo choosed, during the construction of the trains, to not install the "Tiltronix" (tilt mechanism).
This is well done and pleasant to follow along. Thank you
Gorgeous looking trains. Very beautiful 😍
I am a little confused here, having traveled on both (and I am still amazed that train service is something the Italians do so well), in comparing Frecciarossa Executive Class and Italo Executive, well it's not even close, Frecciarossa you get hot meals, a lot better seats, oh heck the list goes on. I am actually sitting here jetlagged when I should be heading to bed, but am I missing something ?
The BF1 music got me so hyped
on the Prima class, are the drinks and snacks complimentary or are they only for sale?
Very informative video - grazie!
In Prima the snacks and drinks are free!
@@Travelog Appreciate the quick response!
Ive seen videos where Treniitalia provides proper meals. Much better than cookies especially if it’s long trip.
Correct me if wrong
That’s in their true first class, which I don’t cover. I was trying to compare like-for-like with Italo. But Trenitalia in Spain (iryo) offers full meals in business class…
If you are looking for a true premium experience then you should choose trenitalia with their executive class. Otherwise they are both good with Italo being better.
Indeed, I briefly mention Trenitalia’s executive class in that video, but I couldn’t rationalize the expense, especially on short rides within Emilia Romagna. I’m sure I’ll try it at some point.
I would like to use Italo, but for some reason in the fall, they don't have any early trains out of Rome. I don't know whether to wait and see if they open up earlier times, or go ahead and book Trenitalia. But, I'm leaning toward the latter.
HAve you checked both stations? They have trains leaving from Roma Termini and Roma Tiburtina
I have to disagree. I just booked tickets for my family of six and looked at both trenitalia and italo- I had to book four routes and looked at both companies using their best family discount prices and Trenitalia was by far the best deal for each route and for each date, and I was able to book business class tickets for cheaper than their standard economy. For a family trenitalia offers the discount for groups of 1-5 but italo makes it harder as it's only for groups of 1-4 and the tickets are still quite expensive. I was also looking early for summer dates and the prices should have been lower. For our purposes, trenitalia was the best option since the adults paid half price and the kids were free. Trenitalia counts kids as 14 and under while Italo only counts them as kids 11 and under. It's a no brainer than Trenitalia is the better option for families and groups.
That’s a fair point, I was traveling by myself or with only one other person. Additionally, I know Trenitalia can do better, that’s what irks me. Iryo in Spain, owned by Trenitalia and running the same trains is on another level, and I only wish they brought that level of service to Italy. Still, I think the competition from Italo is only good for consumers.
Yes, I'm sure when you're only looking for one or two tickets it's easier to find a discount... and yes I'm sure that Italo can only be good for competition but I was surprised that their prices were not even close to Trenitalia's prices when I was looking months ahead to buy.
@@Travelog
Both executive and business of trenitalia comes with fast track!
Good to know! I only boarded Trenitalia in Padova, Bologna, Modena and Parma, so didn't see a station with boarding gates.
Great video and very informative. Is there space for large suitcases in the headspace storage or only carry on sizes. Where would we put large suitcases on the train?
Glad you liked it! Yes, there are luggage storage racks at the beginning and end of each car. I only ever travel with a roller board that is carry on size, but there is plenty of room for luggage.
tip for venice: never take the alilaguna to get to the station. you can get there in 30mins with the bus
That’s a good point, I just personally never stay in that part of town. I either stay in Murano or near Fundamente Nove, so I take the B.
@@Travelog well it really just depends on which part of the city you want to reach, but normally I find it easier (and some times cheaper) to use the bus 😄
travelling dec 22 , i purchased an downloaded my ticket online, do i still need to do anything when i go to roma termini to board my train? do i need to register or something? do i just need the qr code or do i need to print my tickets at home
Nope, you can just pull up the QR code on your phone!
@@Travelog and present it to the gate / platform?
Yep, at Roma termini there are turnstiles that you scan your qr at, just like boarding a plane these days. In other stations you just get on and show the QR code to the conductor when the come by.
We need competition on rail badly in the Netherlands. NS is a steaming pile of excrement...
Ítalo ítalo ítalo 😂
Hey, that’s how they pronounced it in their own announcements…
Min. 3.oo
hi, what's the girl doing?
The lounges a waste of time by the sounds of it. No benefit to travelling premier or first except a comfortable seat
🙂at 4:24: "1300 km/h"! Nonono! 350 km/h is the correct maximum speed!
[Checks Script]: "This train was an ETR675, with a top speed of 250kpmg, which is slightly slower than the older Ital stock of AVG trains (275) or the Freccerossa 1000 (300kpmh)."
[Googles it]: Yes, the Freccerossa 1000 is technically certified as going 360kph and theoretically as fast as 400kph, but operationally it only hits 300. The TGV technically hit 575kph in 2007, but operationally it never gets anywhere near that (only 300kph). I always focus on what speeds you can actually expect when taking it.
Sorry but you made MAAANY mistakes. Like the top speed of the ETR 575 being 275 km/h while it's the same as the Frecciarossa 1000's 300 km/h. Or the ETR 675 being a tilting train while in reality it's just a non-tilting Pendolino shell. I advise you to reeeeeally check your facts next time before making a otherwise very nice video.
Horrible background music
Don't tale this train you' ll arrive always late and it is very difficult to get a refund