For those who can't figure out what's so amazing about this clip... I'll help you out. Pro Rogue: Vanishes from point blank range to apply a quick sap to the healer (druid, focused target) Pro Priest: Accidentally simultaneously applies Shadow Word Pain (SWP) to the same target. Pro Priest: Realizes his SWP will damage over time and break the Sap, causing enemy healer (druid) to be able to heal the enemy warlock. Pro Priest: Reapplies SWP over and over so the damage won't tick. Look at the focused target, watch SWP get refreshed over and over. Pro Rogue: Kills Enemy warlock because Enemy druid stays sapped. gg.
Not exactly something new, i myself figures that out by accident but it was definitely common…that’s why blizzard nerfed it (first tick doesn’t get delayed anymore since years) and even put a initial small damage to prevent abusing it further
This is what can happen when you play your class for a very long time... Every game mechanic your class can do, And how it interacts with teammates / Opponents, Becomes second nature Pshero's gameplay always amazes me, And for him to see something new from a priest, The most common healer comp with a rogue, speaks volumes Amazing. I knew SWP takes 3 seconds to apply its first tick of damage... Never thought someone could instinctively remember this, And reapply on a blind. Its insane
@@derel5880 basically, shadow word pain doesn’t start damaging until a couple seconds after you apply it, so the priest saw that he had sapped/blinded and started spamming swp to reset the timer on the one already on, to prevent it from actually starting to damage, which would’ve broken the cc. The target already had swp on it so by spam reapplying, you keep rolling the timer back to the start over and over. It’s pretty genius in a simple way.
i played wow for 10 years,now im resting.when i finish this video i thought i never see sap like that :D than i read video's title :D you are impressive pshero :)))
Very nice, although what is even more ridiculous and disgusting about TBC PvP is that the druid (with trinket CD) was CC'd for a whole 34 seconds until he left. That is so broken.
u mean 28 seconds? blind not lining up with pvp trinket is broken yea, but considering how busted rdruids are tru all of tbc, id say its not my first complaint about tbc
BC has come this far already huh? remember quitting last year in dungeon blues. Was tired of coming home from work and not being able to get groups as a rogue.
@@FukkenGoogel Rogues have always been solid dps. It's just that Mages and especially Locks are more preferable with superior aoe. If you have your own group of bros it's easy, but a solo rogue out in the wild nobody will want to give them a chance.
What's the purpose of spamming rank 1 pain? Genuine question of a non-classic wow player. I know it won't break the sap if he spams it but whats the point of doing so? Any priest proc or smth?
re-applying any pain faster than it ticks means it would never deal dmg if u kept re-applying it on every single global , if he was spamming max rank pain he'd be out of mana within a few globals while with rank 1 pain he can spam it during the whole sap and it wouldnt break and he wouldnt starve of mana
@@wasdawow4608 no, the priest was dotting the blinded target so he could go in for the fear since he didn't think pshero would get a sap off. The SWP covers as dispel protection from felhunter so the fear sticks.
I'm struggling to find an answer to this question but does anyone know if it is allowed on a PVE server to turn other players PVP by stepping on their AOE damage?
he was spamming priest dot over and over to not break the sap... because when u apply the dot, theres a time delay before the first tick of damage goes through... so since he didnt know pshero was going to vanish/sap the blind, he made sure even though he dotted, that he didnt break the blind.
@@erikstein1348 if he used major rank, sure. absolutely no reason to major rank unless hes the kill target tho. r1 swp costs less than 40 mana each cast afaik, so ure looking at ~400 mana spent
Reminds me of the million times I was in raids as a Warlock and feared CC targets and for some magical reason, my fear targets never pulled adds because I know how to juggle CoR/CoE. People would always say "I've never seen that!".
@Alec N. You cast Curse of Recklessness (which negates fear/horror effects) on a feared target to make it path back to whoever it's targeting, then put Curse of Tongues (cheaper mana cost than elements) to make it run away again. Hence the name 'fear juggle'.
Rogue Sapped the Druid Priest dotted the Druid Sap would have broken when he recieved damage from the dot but the priest kept spamming rank 1 Dot to rerfresh the Dot timer because dots need like a second to pass to deal the first bit of dmg but if he spams it it never reaches the time and doesnt deal dmg Priest used rank 1 spell to save up on mana
To deal dmg long term. He probably didn't think pshero would sap him since he was in combat. When he saw that the druid did get sapped, he reapplied it to not break sap. Edit: I stand corrected, see comment below mine
to block the dispell on fear from Wlock pet but then Rogue sapped and priest kept spamming Pain to prevent the first bit of dmg because it needs a second to kick in on application
@@mcmerry2846 Also.. this is a player with fucking insane hours in arena/world pvp/ experience. And he's fully admitting he had zero idea that was a thing. Get real dude. You've never scraped 1800.
Always been fascinated by his absolutely bored face during games😂😂 crazy skill indeed. He is like doctor strange of rouges who knows what’s gonna happen even after three-four steps
Learned something on my demonhunter also after a few years and a high pvp rating.The animation of thrwoing the glaives in pvp can actually be interfered with with certain stealthed druid and rogue builds.I noticed at around 2k rated bg grounds that I would appear and throw the glaive with plenty of time and they would still cap the flag with the leader shouting and finally watched a video about it and would now jump on those that did it.Also some folks like rextroy have exposed some serious glitches in some builds that make you overpowered in pvp.The same person also showed that some animations and camera angles can cause you to do better--or worse things.
@@bobar84c the priest didn't think pshero would sap, so he did rank1 sw:p and was going to fear. The warlock will pet dispel the druid, but has a 50% chance to get the dot instead. When he realized pshero got the sap, he instead kept refreshing the dot so it doesn't tick and break the sap, then fears after sap is over.
he sapped the druid, but the druid had a dot from the priest, so the priest kept reapplying the rank 1 of the same dot to refresh it so it doesn't tick and break the sap
Sap is a CC spell that rogues have that incapacitates the enemy (makes it so they are practically stunned) but breaks when they receive any form of damage. The priest refreshed his Damage Over Time effect so that the damage tick timer was reset everytime, so it never dealt any damage, thus not breaking the sap.
Priest applied SW:P at the exact time rogue sapped priest, priest notices and keeps renewing SW:P on global cooldown, so that the damage doesn't happen and hence break the CC.
@@jaimonji5503 xD blind sap sheep all break upon damage. Shadow word: Pain is NOT INSTANT damage hence you can keep applying it to not break due to damage. This includes sheeps, blinds, saps, repentance, freezing trap etc. As long as you keep reapplying shadow word: pain every global the CC is active, the CC will not break cuz Shadow word Pain didn't do any damage. It's the classic wow pvp community, usually the bad players with low IQ and just passive aggressive 24/7. Hope u get better and leave this shit game, it's not good for your mental health.
I dont think its a huge difference because they can always chose to disengage it because the warlick is forced to choose between CoA and CoE ...and he ll be left mainly with the Corruption as a primary source of dmg if he chooses to keep exhaustion up...and corruption can be purified Also having it melee gets answered by crippling poison
I have rank 1 regrowth and rejuv rank 1 moonfire for totems max rank and 1 rank below moonfire for the spam. I have rank 1 thorns and mark aswell rank 1 hurricane etc
Why do u keep kidney shotting the warlock. Combo for pvp. Sap. Clean him of buffs bleed>slice n dice after only 2 combo points. Build up to 5 and expose armor. Now use every combo point to refresh slice n dice and expose armor. They go hand n hand u see. Faster attacks on a weaker target. Also profs mongoose and your weapon specialization
well its not a rank 1 pain he is using, unless he used a rank 1 pain the begiin with. cant override ahigher rank spell with a lower one. still, cooll trick.
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For those who can't figure out what's so amazing about this clip... I'll help you out.
Pro Rogue: Vanishes from point blank range to apply a quick sap to the healer (druid, focused target)
Pro Priest: Accidentally simultaneously applies Shadow Word Pain (SWP) to the same target.
Pro Priest: Realizes his SWP will damage over time and break the Sap, causing enemy healer (druid) to be able to heal the enemy warlock.
Pro Priest: Reapplies SWP over and over so the damage won't tick. Look at the focused target, watch SWP get refreshed over and over.
Pro Rogue: Kills Enemy warlock because Enemy druid stays sapped. gg.
pro? pshero is average at best, not a hater but cringing out reading
the fk? re-applying SWP delays the tick? (Brain explodes)
@@AntisnakeYT i dont even play wow and you are cringe for calling him out. :)
@Dan Trebune I mean this kid is obviously a pro. Just look at those whopping 27 view videos lmao
Not exactly something new, i myself figures that out by accident but it was definitely common…that’s why blizzard nerfed it (first tick doesn’t get delayed anymore since years) and even put a initial small damage to prevent abusing it further
I was like "shit, he broke the sap" but nvm, actually impressive, never seen that either and ive been playing since 2005, props to that priest
Pretty common in sl lock rogue comps keeping spam corruption or agony when they fucked up the blind
@@willianzorzi6026 Obviously you havn't played much wow man stop trying to be cool
@@rakbaurian3934 wow player here, wow is not cool
@@tewigaming2537 cool player here, player is not wow
changed in later patches for snapshotting dots
Spot on from the priest, adapted really well to the situation
No matter how good you are, you always have something more to learn.
Me, a Druid, trying to reapply Moonfire so it doesn't break the sap: 👄👁👄
Maybe you can do it with Insect Swarm?
Edit: confirmed working with insect swarm in 3.3.5a
"what if we could use 100% of our brain capacity"
There's lots of little tricks like that in the game. Sometimes I learn something new just by watching other people play
Hahahah settle down Rosie
@Rose Anne Boushard keep spamming those obliterates/ executes/ or divine storms rose!
@@asdfadf1904 fkin dks/wars/palys. They're so op!
It's the smallest things in TBC that set you apart from other players.
The Bulgarian professor gaining knowledge even after 15 yrs
I have learned I’ve never played a rogue.
you would suck at playing Rogue
Ohhhh c’mon 😆
Then you have played a priest before
gj to priest skill application =)
This is what can happen when you play your class for a very long time... Every game mechanic your class can do, And how it interacts with teammates / Opponents, Becomes second nature
Pshero's gameplay always amazes me, And for him to see something new from a priest, The most common healer comp with a rogue, speaks volumes
Amazing. I knew SWP takes 3 seconds to apply its first tick of damage... Never thought someone could instinctively remember this, And reapply on a blind. Its insane
My man pops evasion on druid rush and face to face to not get bashed, thats just big brain, not many people can handle like this
Sap got in right before the SWP. Guessing he didnt know you were following up after the blind but amazing play and save all the same.
That was an insane play by the priest reapplying the SWP over and over so the dmg doesn’t tick through
ya man, we all saw the vid...
@@geofftracy4795 he's phishing for likes like every other comment on youtube
Ya so weird no cap bum ass takes
yeah it was, game winning play.
I dont understand, what did the priest do? What tick are we talking about?
holy fuck thats actually insane
What addon/WA at 0:15 that shows enemy bear charge cooldown? Thank you!
That’s actually pretty frikkin smart. It seems so simple and sensible but can’t say I’ve ever seen it done either. Nice.
Can you explain what happened?
@@derel5880 basically, shadow word pain doesn’t start damaging until a couple seconds after you apply it, so the priest saw that he had sapped/blinded and started spamming swp to reset the timer on the one already on, to prevent it from actually starting to damage, which would’ve broken the cc. The target already had swp on it so by spam reapplying, you keep rolling the timer back to the start over and over. It’s pretty genius in a simple way.
@@SeemsLikeSomething but there is no point ?!
@@bobar84c the point is to not break Sap or blind while theyre doing other stuff ?!
@@bobar84c waste his own mana. That's the point
i played wow for 10 years,now im resting.when i finish this video i thought i never see sap like that :D than i read video's title :D you are impressive pshero :)))
Name of the addon which shows debuff avove enemy nameplate? Thanks
pretty crazy. reminds me of covering poly with detect magic in classic
what add on is it that shows DR above enemy nameplate?
I guess there is a reason for the 3 second delay on dots lol at least for priests IDK if that's for all classes or dots
What add on tells you the cds of the enemy druid
Very nice, although what is even more ridiculous and disgusting about TBC PvP is that the druid (with trinket CD) was CC'd for a whole 34 seconds until he left. That is so broken.
u mean 28 seconds?
blind not lining up with pvp trinket is broken yea, but considering how busted rdruids are tru all of tbc, id say its not my first complaint about tbc
Ya this dudes a God at rogue iv seen alot of his videos
the evasion on that bash @1:00 was v nice
The shitty warlock never even jukes fear once or devour fear off his druid
Yeah and the shitty Druid woulda saved the lock if he just put some heals rather than stupidly going for dr roots and put in the open clones
That's Warlock/Druid for you. If they were to play any other class, they wouldn't go past 1200.
such a good arena overall tho, that druid lock were so good and the priest with that little trick just blew me off
It's not hard, TBC was the only season I was top tier because of SL/SL lock/rdruid. It was almost like cheating it was so easy.
BC has come this far already huh? remember quitting last year in dungeon blues. Was tired of coming home from work and not being able to get groups as a rogue.
same, but dUnGeOn FiNdEr KiLls ThE gAem!
cant get groups as rogue? rogue is good in dungeons
@@FukkenGoogel Rogues have always been solid dps. It's just that Mages and especially Locks are more preferable with superior aoe.
If you have your own group of bros it's easy, but a solo rogue out in the wild nobody will want to give them a chance.
@@koro527 on the bright side, if you come back for wrath youll be more wanted as you have spammable aoe, misdirect and way better single target dps.
You don't do dungeons in TBC other than the attunements for the gdkp runs.
Hi Pshero, why did you not kill the healer first?
BIG PRIEST AND GIANT PSHERO
that priest is really good tbh, and its not only by that one trick
I’m so bad I don’t even understand what the swp has to do with the sap. Why would rank 1 not break it ?
Hit Hit miss resist resist cyclone root oh what fun 😂👍🏻
Thats a absolute step above
What did just happen? Can someone explain pls?
love from bulgaria
Its something I've seen Hozitojones do from time to time when a blind or sap goes onto an already dotted target. It's definitely big brain play
What's the purpose of spamming rank 1 pain? Genuine question of a non-classic wow player.
I know it won't break the sap if he spams it but whats the point of doing so? Any priest proc or smth?
He spammed rank 1 so it didn't tick damage to break sap and rank 1 to save mana
@@boxwine459 Yes but why, if it won't deal damage i dont understand it xd
re-applying any pain faster than it ticks means it would never deal dmg if u kept re-applying it on every single global , if he was spamming max rank pain he'd be out of mana within a few globals while with rank 1 pain he can spam it during the whole sap and it wouldnt break and he wouldnt starve of mana
@@iskander-6970 The priest accidentally dotted the sapped target, so he kept reapplying the dot so that it wouldn't tick damage and break the sap.
@@wasdawow4608 no, the priest was dotting the blinded target so he could go in for the fear since he didn't think pshero would get a sap off. The SWP covers as dispel protection from felhunter so the fear sticks.
I'm struggling to find an answer to this question but does anyone know if it is allowed on a PVE server to turn other players PVP by stepping on their AOE damage?
I don‘t thunk this is even possible lol
@@j.w.213 It happens xD Sometimes is just targeting selection
@ 0:35 The funniest part of the video!! "See this shit!"!!! A dude playing rogue complaining about being locked down! Hahahaha that was soo good
Galaxy brain, holy hell.
Playing a lot of Lock/Rogue in 2s .. very familiar with that lol
i still dont get what was happening he used a move to make sure your sap doesnt work?
he was spamming priest dot over and over to not break the sap... because when u apply the dot, theres a time delay before the first tick of damage goes through... so since he didnt know pshero was going to vanish/sap the blind, he made sure even though he dotted, that he didnt break the blind.
Thats actually insane
Yes it only cost 3-4k mana today, insane.
@@erikstein1348 not even close
@@erikstein1348 if he used major rank, sure. absolutely no reason to major rank unless hes the kill target tho.
r1 swp costs less than 40 mana each cast afaik, so ure looking at ~400 mana spent
@@Exata1337 jeah actually i think its 23 and u just need to do it 3-4 times (it ticks every 3 seconds only) so not even 100 mana^^ he reggs more :D
Not really
Maybe he was just fishing for blackout procs ^^
I didn' understand what happened! Could you please explain it?
3:03 he just vanished in front of druid to leave combat and sap enemy, he had the DOTS so he went in combat quick.
I want to know how a felhunter parries.
Good old staring at the screen at 0.25 speed.
Also never seen that before... I'm like that priest fucked up... Wait... Wtf... 😂
Good partners lately, wish TBC had more of a following.
i have noticed since the begining, your priest is rly good
I hate warlocks!!! Love how you nailed him!!!!
He was a noob warlock. Elite Warlocks beat anyone without even casting
Reminds me of the million times I was in raids as a Warlock and feared CC targets and for some magical reason, my fear targets never pulled adds because I know how to juggle CoR/CoE. People would always say "I've never seen that!".
@Alec N. You cast Curse of Recklessness (which negates fear/horror effects) on a feared target to make it path back to whoever it's targeting, then put Curse of Tongues (cheaper mana cost than elements) to make it run away again. Hence the name 'fear juggle'.
@Zealadinn good enough not to need CC. GOOD ENOUGH
That's like one of the most commonly known and done things in the game
Im a new player and seeing all this blows my mind. Atm i just blow all my spells at the start and pray i get a kill. Its so hard to get into wow pvp
900iq priest first ive seen that used
Reminds me of ffxi where you had to poison yourself to prevent sleep spell from affecting you
holy shit man thats crazy!
amazing PPC
That vanish sap was so huge
It was not the vanish sap
can you explain what happened i didnt get it
Rogue Sapped the Druid
Priest dotted the Druid
Sap would have broken when he recieved damage from the dot but the priest kept spamming rank 1 Dot to rerfresh the Dot timer because dots need like a second to pass to deal the first bit of dmg but if he spams it it never reaches the time and doesnt deal dmg
Priest used rank 1 spell to save up on mana
to keep him from going invis? or why put sw pain on
To deal dmg long term. He probably didn't think pshero would sap him since he was in combat. When he saw that the druid did get sapped, he reapplied it to not break sap.
Edit: I stand corrected, see comment below mine
to block the dispell on fear from Wlock pet but then Rogue sapped and priest kept spamming Pain to prevent the first bit of dmg because it needs a second to kick in on application
@@florianl8273 wrong, not for dmg...guy above me explained well
@@doomzx8284 yeah I didn't think about the fear because the druid wasn't feared at that point. I stand corrected.
That's actually 200 IQ wow
Every priest do that, and also the druids with moonfire, not impressive at all
@@mcmerry2846 moonfire applies instant damage so clearly you have no idea what you're talking about.
@@mcmerry2846 Also.. this is a player with fucking insane hours in arena/world pvp/ experience. And he's fully admitting he had zero idea that was a thing. Get real dude. You've never scraped 1800.
Sick
Smart Priest
holy cow!!! that sap!
Always been fascinated by his absolutely bored face during games😂😂 crazy skill indeed. He is like doctor strange of rouges who knows what’s gonna happen even after three-four steps
Learned something on my demonhunter also after a few years and a high pvp rating.The animation of thrwoing the glaives in pvp can actually be interfered with with certain stealthed druid and rogue builds.I noticed at around 2k rated bg grounds that I would appear and throw the glaive with plenty of time and they would still cap the flag with the leader shouting and finally watched a video about it and would now jump on those that did it.Also some folks like rextroy have exposed some serious glitches in some builds that make you overpowered in pvp.The same person also showed that some animations and camera angles can cause you to do better--or worse things.
“This is better than retail”
same shit, more elitist with way less mechanical skills!
Damn I’ll have to use that one
Big brain priest
I’ve seen Hozito and Hydra do this. Truly top tier! 👏🏻
whats point of that ?
@@bobar84c i guess after they fear there is chance lock dispel it instead of fear idk
@@bobar84c the priest didn't think pshero would sap, so he did rank1 sw:p and was going to fear. The warlock will pet dispel the druid, but has a 50% chance to get the dot instead.
When he realized pshero got the sap, he instead kept refreshing the dot so it doesn't tick and break the sap, then fears after sap is over.
@@MrStokkich makes sense now. ty
I'm a bit confused as to what that means or how that works lol
he sapped the druid, but the druid had a dot from the priest, so the priest kept reapplying the rank 1 of the same dot to refresh it so it doesn't tick and break the sap
Sap is a CC spell that rogues have that incapacitates the enemy (makes it so they are practically stunned) but breaks when they receive any form of damage.
The priest refreshed his Damage Over Time effect so that the damage tick timer was reset everytime, so it never dealt any damage, thus not breaking the sap.
@@darxrogue ahhhhhh I see.
Priest applied SW:P at the exact time rogue sapped priest, priest notices and keeps renewing SW:P on global cooldown, so that the damage doesn't happen and hence break the CC.
Why even dot in the first place tho was obv rogue had a vanish for sap
Blizz has a nasty problem with DR and that Druid must be PISSED because his million cc’s did nothing.
cc without pressure is a waste
His CCs didn't do nothing. They delayed the inevitable.
Fucking genius priest. Wp both.
Hojitojonez does it alot actually
Big wands
i guess he is a beast
I'm amazed that this is fun for anyone involved, but then again I still play League.
Gamer
genius
I have to try it
wow classic is the absolute greatest
smart one
I think I have seen Hydra do that
What’s the benefit of having rank 1 pain on the Druid?
Keep him in combat for no prowl or sips
People do this on blackrock all the time, seen it happen on sheeps, blinds, saps.
Sheeps? Every mage runs glyph of sheep lol. Everyone in this comments section is a mutliglad on every class 690019373 rating
@@jaimonji5503 xD blind sap sheep all break upon damage. Shadow word: Pain is NOT INSTANT damage hence you can keep applying it to not break due to damage. This includes sheeps, blinds, saps, repentance, freezing trap etc. As long as you keep reapplying shadow word: pain every global the CC is active, the CC will not break cuz Shadow word Pain didn't do any damage. It's the classic wow pvp community, usually the bad players with low IQ and just passive aggressive 24/7. Hope u get better and leave this shit game, it's not good for your mental health.
cool
Ah! Is z2u legal? aye!
That warlock sucks, it took him two minutes to put curse of exhaustion on you
I dont think its a huge difference because they can always chose to disengage it because the warlick is forced to choose between CoA and CoE ...and he ll be left mainly with the Corruption as a primary source of dmg if he chooses to keep exhaustion up...and corruption can be purified
Also having it melee gets answered by crippling poison
Sucks spriest can't spam r1 SWP for blackout procs anymore
i guess you didn't play tbc it was very common then
who has rank 1 shadow word pain on their action bars for such a niche situation? lol
very cool though
You should always , same as Druid with rank 1 rejuv or rank 1 moonfire too bait more purges too burn mana .
Bait purges. Keep people in combat without expending too much mana.
Rank 1 swp is also for covering his fear vs lock teams.
Yeah pretty standard to have r1 abilities lol
I have rank 1 regrowth and rejuv rank 1 moonfire for totems max rank and 1 rank below moonfire for the spam. I have rank 1 thorns and mark aswell rank 1 hurricane etc
Never seen that bc you're hard stuck 1900 I guess, that's been a thing for the longest time wtf
wow
Why do u keep kidney shotting the warlock. Combo for pvp. Sap. Clean him of buffs bleed>slice n dice after only 2 combo points. Build up to 5 and expose armor. Now use every combo point to refresh slice n dice and expose armor. They go hand n hand u see. Faster attacks on a weaker target. Also profs mongoose and your weapon specialization
U rarely use slice n dice and I’m confused on why
U need to apply constant pressure so the enemy has less chances to set up any kind of approach.
@@BallaBen yes he should never use kidney shot and only focus on dps... this isn't a raid
This isnt pve
Called it that pshero would go back to playing WoW #lifer
well its not a rank 1 pain he is using, unless he used a rank 1 pain the begiin with. cant override ahigher rank spell with a lower one. still, cooll trick.
I think it may have been just rank1 pain to try to proc blackouts? But not sure
@@Mazxlol could be to keep in combat as well so druid cant re stealth?
Rank 1 offensive spells override higher ranks, but beneficial spells do not.
@@Enp198 maybe that yeah
@@SOUNDWAVE7895 you're wrong. He definitely used rank 1 from start to prevent dispel on his upcoming fear.
I literally figured that out myself back in the day until nerf I never thought that would classify as pro
rogues pepegaclap
will say it's an MLG play, but this has been a move 19s have been doing for over a decade haha
these nerds losing their minds over this shit