How to remove, repair and install a flat roof
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2019
- How to remove, repair and install a flat roof. and tie it into your hip roof. This is a long video but it will show you how to do it. Make sure you offset your shingles on the tie in. click here to get amzn.to/3wUfviP I'm affiliate
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I went back to this video and I’m glad the homeowner video this and posted it. I’ve learned a lot what materials they use. Although they’re seems annoyed at first
They actually like the video after I sent it to him
Those guys were really annoyed by you being up there. 😆
Not gonna lie though, I came here searching for how to repair my roof and I found this to be very informative. 👍
Thanks and thanks for watching I hope it helped
Because he was trying to be funny. Pros like to work and not have a comedian trying to make people laugh. Ask serious questions or just watch.
Thank you, Tom. Found your video while doing my research on reroofing my flat roof garage.
Glad I could help
Me too
Poor guys. I hope they charged extra for all the questions.
vegomatic100 homeowners with RUclips and camera ..........no thanks
the vid is 30 minutes,the job is hours long,there is much editing,the few questions don't mean shit
@@johnmichaelkarma so you think he edited out the super annoying questions... Or do you think there were ten times as many questions that didn't make the final cut.... I'm guessing the latter. Gtfoff the roof. Its dangerous having some idiot in your way.
Awesome! I’m attaching an addition to the backhouse tomorrow. Glad I came across this video
I’m glad the video helped thanks for watching
Dear Lord. I felt horrible for these guys with all those questions... pleaaaase tell me they charged him extra.
Yes there was a 20% surcharge for questions and answers but I must say thanks for watching
Excellent tip appreciate that info and thank you for watching
Thanks for posting this process, so I can better know what to expect for my roof replacement
Glad to help and thanks for watching
I would've told him to get off the roof
I know, right?!? A few incisive questions where warranted would have been helpful. But his torrent of requests to confirm his "no-shit" observations with oh-too-many statements about him was enough to make me jettison this ¼ of the way through. I wish they would have all said STFU and let us work at the end, but I'm not going through the agony to find out.
Yeah but than we don't get this great video.
@@boxsterman77 the vid is 30 minutes,the job is many hours,there is much editing, the few questions don't mean shit
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Tt8
Excellent tip thanks
I know what was going through the heads of All of those guys doing the work. I’ve been there myself 😡
They loved the video!
And I do too! Thank you!🙏🏼
You can see it in their faces. 😄
Very skills men and hard workers. NO you camera 📷 man!!! Great Job👍👍
Thanks for watching
Great video, thx so much.
You’re welcome I hope the video helped you reroof your house thanks for watching
Thanks for posting! Despite some of these highly opinionated comments, I really enjoyed this. I have a porch roof redo coming up and want to see what's involved. This contractor seems to have it down to a science, and the trabajadores are very skilled and made it look easy. This was a good 'infomercial' for this contractor!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching
Thanks for the video
No problem!
awwesome video. thanks for sharing.
You’re welcome and thank you for watching
Guatemalans are the best roofers I’ve ever seen quick efficient & Work without Saying a word .this homeowner needs a life I’d tell him beat it
true dat
Without him we wouldn't of had a video
I have been looking at a ton of videos (mostly from GAF and Mule-Hide) on installing either peel and stick "Mod Bit", or torch-down "Mod Bit". Home Depot and Lowes both have "Mod Bit" GAF Liberty peel and stick OR torch-down. You can choose your Mod Bit type between a SBS or an APP. SBS has more of a rubberized ingredient, and an APP has more of a plastic ingredient... but both are mod bits. They are about the same price and about the same expected life I think... which is 10 to 25 years depending on the number of layers (ie. plys) you put on.
There is also EPDM and PVC types of flat roof material, but frankly I did not have the time to research those any more than 10 minutes. But THINK that for residential roofs, "mod bit" seems to be most popular now.
Besides GAF, the only other brand I have researched is Mule-Hide. It seems just as good as GAF, and also has peel and stick and torch-on in SBS or APP. I have not made a final choice yet, but will decide soon after I talk to the Mule-Hide supply house in town. (If I get a chance I will let yall know which I end up going with and why.)
You are suppose to roll on a black primer coat to the wood deck to activate the SA (Self Adhesive base sheet). This primer coat allows the base sheet to stick better. I am also seeing that you may NOT want to put on the SA base sheet directly onto the wood (as they did in the video)... even with the primer. Because it will be impossible to remove years from now on the next roof job. So you may need to replace the plywood deck! yikes!!! So, I am reading that you may want to put down the MA base sheet first (Mech Attached nail-down) as your FIRST PLY. It will save your wood deck from being destroyed on you NEXT roof replacement years from now. After your base sheet, you would next put on either a cap sheet, OR you could next put on a middle smooth ply sheet, and then a granular cap sheet. The more plys, the better... .and the more expensive.
BTW ... Mule-Hide has a sheet that can be used as EITHER a base sheet OR as a cap sheet. It has a smooth top (NOT granulated) It is called "APP Torch Base/Cap". You torch it on. Not sure if GAF has something like that, or if it only comes as a torch-on. Like i said, i am not a roofer. Hopefully we hear from someone that knows this stuff.
After researching the various materials and brands for an upcoming roof job, I now realize that getting the job done correctly, as THE MANUFACTURER CALLS FOR, is probably more important than the brand or specific type of material used.
Great job on the video! It was good to see real-world roofing video. Those slick factory videos with that background music and fancy graphics are boring after the first 10. Thanks!
Any tips or opinions on low slope roofing from an actual installer would be great if someone cares to share.
Excellent info appreciate it. Thanks for watching.
for quality durability i hope you went for mule-hide brand
Super helpful, I need to repair a flat roof at the house, just like this as it abuts up to a hip roof. Thank you so much
I really appreciate you asking all the questions, even though the other comment were up set, you asked and got answered all the questions I have, thank you. Kevin in Cincinnati
You are so welcome!
I couldn't work with this guy around.
Not many people can
Who could
Tom what if a mod bit roof was laid with no wood underneath? I have a roof I need to replace and whoever did it before just glued it down to the celotex ceiling tiles. If I have the exisitng shingles stripped off it will most likely damage the ceiling which will then need replacing. Have you seen this before? What are my options? Thank you
Well that’s a very unique situation I’m surprised that there isn’t an infrastructure underneath with plywood that your roof is attached to this may require some engineering to figure out OK good luck thanks for watching
Great job and what kind of cost budget was that roofing
Job.
3500
Awesome job
Thanks
Get that guy off the roof!!!
I can see 3 workers and 2 RUclipsrs supervising 😅🤣
Pretty much happy holidays
Great video. 👍
Thanks I appreciate that. Good luck on your install.
I really like the way this guys done this job!👍
Thanks
They hated the fact that you were hanging over their shoulder the entire time. Had they known you were going to do this they would’ve turned down the job. I’m guessing no one looks over your shoulder the entire time you’re at work.
You would be surprised
Nothing worse then a home owner putting in his 2cents the hole time.
@@shawncummings4653100%
Thank you for sharing, this helps Alot
I slipped some under the roof shingles because it wasn't there
Then I thought I did something wrong
So when they come replace roof
I guess I'm right to have it
Thanks for this video
ur welcome thanks for watching
Beautiful!
Thank you! Cheers!
Very good job. Those boys went above and beyond with those over laps on bottom layer. Might be more cost effective to have done TPO for white or epdm if ok to do in black. No seams when bought in bulk. I can do that with rubber membrane in half a day alone. Call it a full day with repairs. I tell you this so you can have an idea what it would take. Not knocking these guys at all. Very good job indeed.
How do you determine whether you can lay the new roof over the old (assuming there’s only one existing layer) or if you need to tear up the old roof? If the plywood looks okay from underneath (no water stained or rot), does that mean it doesn’t need replacement?
I would tear off the old one just to make sure that you don’t have water damage and to see if you need to replace any wood. Good luck. Thanks for watching.
Hello there I have a house in San Diego Ca need to repair and replace the roof exactly as you were doing in this house so how much would it cost? My patio flat roof was building the same style as this house but it is bigger than this I think it is around 550sf . please let me know if you can help . Thank you so much and have a great day
This was about 3000
@@TomLeeman Thank you Tom
Just what every contractor wants...
Do you love the video?
Great video its very bueno
I'm glad you like it
Hi Tom!! I want to put flat roof in my house, it is necessary to remove the previous one or it is better to put it on the one that already exists
If you have damage to the underling wood you need to replace if it is rotten. Its always best to remove the old one just to make sure you don't have any unseen problems.
@@TomLeeman where can the supples be bought for flat roof. base sheet and cap sheet?
Your video was very informative and I was impressed by the specific products used. Can you provide the specific name and/or manufacturer of the products used, both the underlayment and the final covering?
I’m not quite sure I’ll have to research it for you and get back to you thanks for watching
3 months later....
@@TomLeeman five months later.
@@deemaverick987 8 months later
9 months ago and growing...
good information
So nice of you
Peel an stick cap sucks so bad up here in Canada the winters are too cold and it doesn’t stick properly I would only use this in warm cities
Are you priming it 😂😂😂
I bet they weren't very happy having a customer videoing their work especially when you said "we" all the time.
They loved me and I sent the video to them
Uh huh! You didn't hear the comments after they were done that they should have charged you more for bugging them and the job took twice as long. Lol.
Yea they got free advertising, so all you a-holes shut the hell up!
I’m sure it was discussed beforehand and it promotes the company. Why is everyone so negative these days
@@stanleypowell4 who? The roll pushers? Or the actual workers?
What materials were used here! Please let me know.. Thanks for the video!
In the video he explains names of products you can buy at home depot
perterson dean did my flat the same one year later the roof started leaking with same process i call then 4 times they wiil not come and fix it
@@jsavage7241 Did you ever get Peterson Dean to show up? I was seriously considering them for my solar and roof, but I don't need those problems
@@jsavage7241 give me your number or email I can go out there
@@bobcapretto8556 Petersen-Dean filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in June 2020
Do people like this guy realize how annoying they are to the guys who are just trying to work? Your condescending humor doesnt come off too well but i do appreciate the knowledge from the video lol
They all love the video thanks for writing
@@TomLeeman so thats a no, you dont realize lol. Im sure its everyone else thats wrong, couldnt possibly be you
I dont mind customer watching and asking questions.
I end up asking for beer at the end for the schooling.
And u will get a cold one from me!
I bought beers for my contractors all the time when I asked them questions about the work they were doing.
Did they reused the shingles that got removed?
No they used new shingles
The first sheet lay on the plywood’s it’s called base sheet correct?
I think so
Cool vid. How much would a repair job like this cost?
I pay these guys 3500
Is the nail sticking under the ceiling, I am trying to do this on my patio roof and I don’t what to do to avoid the nail being shown under the ceiling? Any suggestion?
You have to check the depth from your plywood and the length of your nails be careful
Glue.
Hello is the cap sheet TPO? if not, whats the brand or name of the material is it a membrane. Thanks
I’m not quite sure I’ll have to do some research thanks for watching
I’m not quite sure I’ll have to do some research thanks for watching
that wasn't tpo. that was regular WHITE aggregate rolled roofing 30:07 pause. sheesh, the homeowner that paid for it and on the roof acting like he knows what's going on, doesn't even know.
Great video, can a home owner pull their own permit for this, and do we need to use Hot tar
Need a permit
Depends on what state requires it. Check with your local license and inspection office.
Screw the permit.
You only need a permit if there's an inspector around.
Way you didn't put facia sheet under the first membrane?
I know they should’ve you’re so correct about that. Thank you for that information and thanks for watching.
What’s with all that mastic? Rolled aluminum in that transition?? That was a dumb detail as it would have been much better for the installation to add another layer of the self adhered base sheet!!
What's the name of the material. I have small project. Thanks
The roofers are like "Please get the fuck out of here so we can work"
So true
Roofing team "Great Job!"
They did good job no leaks
We need you guys in the Philippines 🇵🇭 please 🙏
I wish I could send them over to help
@ Tom... Nice video! ... By the way, I remove tar from my hands with "citric acid" that you can buy somewhere, or just use a citrus peel (orange, lime, lemon) plus a little sand, it works all the time for me, of course if it is only a small amount of tar on your hands. I also have used citrus peels to remove tar from my car body, (splashed tar from the road). After squeezing and rubbing the citrus peel on the spot with tar, just wash with soapy water and rinse well. P.S: Do not use sand on the car paint... LOL...
Diesel works best
@@Drift-fpv- some people use MARGARINE. What about that?
Gasoline works fine. Goop works as well.
Going to redo my roofs. I hope the stuff I use is good.
It’s a modified base sheet and Awaplan fr white.
Will be 1/4 to the foot slope. I put the first one on 25 years ago. No leaks in 25 years. Little maintenance over the years.
Always turn the base over and cover the wood.
Peel and stick is garbage. On a flat roof that is.
Best flat roof material for that application would be sarnafil or a brand of tpo . I prefer sarnafil.
Baby oil, then Dawn.
So those rolls just stick and don't need to be nailed?
I guess so
Tom we have a patio with flat roof very low pitch almost flat. and our guy installed tar paper and put asphalt shingles. Im worried about the leaking.....
As long as the pitch is enough for the water to run off but if there is standing water could be a problem
@@TomLeeman thanks Tom. It rained today and most of the water ran off to the sides. However some shingles had standing water on top of it. No huge puddles...we live in cali so we dont get that much rain fall to begin with.
2/12 minimum pitch for shingles. If you have standing water you're in trouble.
can't believe all the negative comments. the guys actually doing the work weren't asked any questions and didn't seem bothered in the least...they were working, quickly and efficiently. And as the homeowner he's got every right to be up there monitoring and learning about the process. Plus if the roof leaks, he's got the whole thing on video to prove where they went wrong. Good stuff Tom, thanks for the video
*edit - AND now the roofing co has a free promo video they can share to show the quality of their work. smh, people find anything and everything to complain about. try looking for the good once in a while
Thanks I appreciate your response
Naw. They were annoyed. From a worker's point of view, there was no way of really seeing the "good" in those situations. You're only getting in the way and interrupting the workflow. I think the guy with the nailgun was annoyed the most, lol.
What video were YOU watching? because I saw MANY questions asked by the cameraman and I saw ALL the workers were irritated, including the man that appeared to be the company owner.
Nice video. How much may it cost ?
This was about 3500
Anyone know what the first layer is called beside “peel and stick”. There’s nothing about it in the video or comments. Thanks
Not sure will have to research
@Pizzurp thanks for reply, but I don’t see they use torch unless I’m missing it. All I see they did was rolling the heavy roller around to make sure it’s stick.
Nm I found they selling some at homedepot for 100$ per roll and climbing every month
Good camera work and details.. Name marital and where to get it from in all video's.. Big thanks.
thanks the company brought all the materials not sure of source
Where can I get the supplies?
Home Depot
what are the materials please ... need to get to steppin
I think he goes over the materials in the video
One question I don't know where you guys are I'm assuming somewhere in the US. I'm a roofer in Canada with over 25 years experience don't you guys ever use elastico stick primer before laying out your peel and stick base a cap. It's the only way we ever do it and the laps on the cap sheet would get heat welded with a leister gun.
In the US, we don’t have as strict regulations as you can see they do too many shortcuts
Do you know what that second layer on top the pell and stick was call
I do not??
Cap.
And its beat to unroll it so it can relax for a while before its stuck down. Depending on how hot it was that day. If it wasn't very warm out when installed it will wrinkle and look like shit in the summer.
@@BUSTRCHERRI 100%. Mine got vertical AND horizontal ripples because I didn't lay it out long enough. It kept blowing off the roof so I just went and banged it on there. Still managed to get 20 years out of it though, thanks to elastomeric coatings!
what can i use for my base if i dont want the self adhering stuff directly on my plywood. i would rather have a nail down product for the first layer.
I guess he could use the tarp paper
@@TomLeeman so i found out gaf has a mechanicallyy applied sbs base layer but it is not available at Lowes or Home Depot. SBS mechanically attached base sheet. going to be hell getting that crap off the plywood in 10-12 years.
gaf said just use the peel and seal base sheet. dont remove the backing and nail it down.
seel
What's the product name or brand?
Not sure
hi, where can i buy underlaying and what is it call thanks
Check description
omg i would've pushed him off when he said i feel it right here
Good tip
I heard the white shingle says wolverine in tar 😂😂
I feel terrible for those roofers... 3 minutes in and I can't watch anymore.. Don't EVER do that again to people.. you best call them up and apologize and thank them for not pushing you off that roof
😂😂😂😂
the vid is 30 minutes,the job is many hours,there is much editing, the few questions don't mean shit. 3 minutes in and you can't watch,where is your patience,
I had a customer sit in his lawn chair and watch me work all day. It didn’t bother me. I like it when people see how hard I work and how much work goes into a roof
@@alexleanh why would I say anything when he’s paying me. I’m a gifted tradesmen and I’m used to people watching me. You seem unbalanced. Is there something wrong with you
😂 the contractor didn’t say it but was uncomfortable with the owner over the roof. As well the workers were uncomfortable with him looking at them working. No one likes to have a boss breathing over your shoulder when you work. And if something happens to the owner for being up when people is working, he will be the only responsible not he contractor’s insurance. 😅
I love the video
Great video. Hard workers. Would rather have captions instead.
Next time will use subtitles thanks for watching
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The best!
You are annoying af but thank you for the video. Without your entitled personality i would of never gotten this knowledge and all of your questions really help. This is the best video on this inhave found so thank you.
Thank you I think and thanks for watching
6 dudes doing a 2 man job.😂
Yep
“I charge a lot more! Can I be the project manager?!” I love it! Great video
Thanks
What are the actual names of the materials?
Have to research that
I use Crisco to get roofing tar off.
Great tip thanks for watching
i want a new ruff
Thanks for the the video... But lordy, that must have been annoying for the workers to have this person hovering over the work like that.. I have walked off jobs where the owner of the house is standing over my shoulder. Luckily construction is in such demand we don't have to put up that crap at all.. Just move to the next job.
They were cool
i bet you wish you salvaged that wood now with these lumber prices lol
yup
how much could i expect to pay for something like this on my carport?
We paid $3500
Crystal m . Plus $ 1500 if have to be answer to many questions lol.
Seems a little pricey for this small of a job. Not sure of the square footage total. Looks to be about 10x30? Which would make it about $11.50/square foot.
That guy has been present at every site visit and preliminary analysis that I've been to.. ffs. After watching the video though, this guy is the way that we should all be when it comes to our projects. If he wasn't as inquisitive, we wouldn't have this video.
Thanks!
What is the cost for a 20x20 flat replacement roof ,tear down,replace clean up etc
Any roofers please let me know
It was 3500 to do this job
@@TomLeeman does cost depend on season, lower $ in November then summer time
Usually home repairs are done when weather is nice
No priming the base sheet? No priming the cap sheet? No heat welding the laps with a lister gun?? No burning of the poly ?? I never seen this system before. Seems like a Good job just hope their not in a hurricane or tornado area. All the nails might indicate they where.
Florida! hope it holds thanks for the tips and for watching
Tom Leeman if the manufacturer’s. Say it well hold I guess so. I am from Canada. We have a really bad heat cold cycle -30 c to+30. Or-22 f to+86f or-50 c with the wind chill or +40 with the humidity. We just might have to do the extra steps. For the temperature extremes.
Hate people who think they know what they're talking about. Just get off the roof, and go sit in the shade
Good idea its hot up there!
I see several OSHA violations here I love it when idiots make videos of themselves 35 years union journeyman foreman/superintendent here I just laughed at you guys
That’s Florida for you the land of no regulations kind of crazy right but so far we haven’t had any leaks cross your fingers thanks for the tips and notes appreciate it and thanks for watching
The camera guy was SO Annoying!! The man that was rolling the roof was Fed up with that guy filming he start working to avoid talking to him!!!
Yup
once again..if anyone can a mexi-can....we get the job done....hgtv wouldnt exist without mex power..lol
I agree!
Wouldn’t you want to wrap the Peel n Stick over the fascia?
I should have said base sheet.
Yup! That’s what I just did at a job yesterday! Great minds think a like! Lol
I have no roofing experience but have read and looked at a ton of video the last few days from GAF and Mule-Hide. Yes you should overlap a few inches of the facia with the base sheet. However, you should cut the cap sheet about 1/8" or so shy of the edge of the roof so that you squeeze a bead of special calk onto that edge. The roof material manufacturer you use will state what brand of caulk to use in the install instructions. This is an extra step that adds protection to the edge of the cap sheet and prevent the edge from fraying etc in the years ahead.
That board should have come out, not just have an extra one nailed to it. You didn't need me to tell you that. And did the inspector have to smack them to lay down more paper?
No, the inspector passed it. If you have any more constructive criticism please put it in the comments. Thanks for watching.
You didn't show the most important part. The very end was kind of cut off.
I’ll have to make a more complete video next time😎🤙
I'd be like, its
1.500 if I do it .
1.800, if you watch.
2.300 if you help!
good joke
Pretty problematic, your comment about requiring more money to do the labor... never forget these guys are doing the hard work that you would never want to and deserve much more respect and less of your condescension... That said, great video, thanks!
Couldn't agree more
What state is this? Is this in California? Are they still in business?
florida
Anyone notice that the shingle tie in was messed up. The shingle roof is 6" separation on the tabs and they tied in with 4" . Last 30 seconds of video.
Excellent tips thanks
This is a nightmare watching this
If you could get your flat roof done this way. You would never again have a leak.
Thank you for the comments and thank you for watching