Please click here to join our membership scheme from £3 per month & with a range of exciting perks & benefits: www.patreon.com/NewCultureForum - alternatively, for one-off donations via credit / debit card, PayPal or bank transfer, please go to our website: www.newcultureforum.org.uk/donate
On the gg in the north. You yourself have made a mistake. Think about what these criminals are. Do you not think they weren't committing the crimes within their own community? Of course they have and its been covered up. It's just another variant of racism.
ON migration its not about numbers. It's about uneconomic economic migration. A min wage earner pays £900 a year in tax. The state then spends £16,500 on them [average state spend]. More in practice because of redistribution and then there are future costs like pensions. Who pays the difference? Then you have the wage suppression. Competition for low paid jobs, competition for housing, both social and private, schools, health care, ...
@@Nickle314 Yes exactly, the average state spend (the "fixed costs" as it were) are almost always omitted by proponents of immigration when stating the "economic benefits". Its a model that only works when you only import high earners, which of course the UK does not.
Labour 1960s : we must defend the British worker and British manufacturing Labour 2022 : we must defend the right of international finance to import millions of cheap workers and teach children about Trans identity
Conservatives who are not conservative, Liberals who are illiberal, Greens who are red, and a Labour party who despise the people they were formed to represent. Something has to give.
It reminds me of Romes final years. I guess the collapse of western world in inevitable. I wonder once all the money runs out where all these migrants go next? China? India?
The first party that has a solid plan to deal with immigration will dominate. The red wall cracked because immigration disproportionately effects the working class. Brexit was a response to immigration.
And it's endemic all over, not just a British problem. In the US we have Democrats who abhor democracy (they talk about 'endangered democracy,' but they mean 'political reversals,' whether or not the voters endorse those reversals.) We have Republicans who don't know what a republic is, much less their position in it nor what the Constitution they swore to uphold requires of them and their office. We do have some light in populism, but that's no substitute for an educated, political class that actually upholds the mechanisms, or better yet, ideals of the Constitution. The mob and liberty make for inconstant allies.
@@boobah5643 the mob and liberty were the basis of American and Irish independence. All revolutions are popularist upraisings. Today’s popularism is tomorrow’s constitution and government
An excellent documentary and I agree wholeheartedly with it. Labour Party is no longer for the working class and has not been for a very long time. Too busy promoting a woke agenda of trans ideology, multiculturalism, mass immigration. It gave up the working class many decades ago. I for one would not vote for the Labour Party. It enjoys a London Centric view of the champagne classes now and has abandoned it's working class roots long ago.
@@MsMounen Look the whose a woman debate is funny. It's funny because they can't define it without coming across as in dire need of psychiatric help. So a womb? Does that define a woman? No, lots have had hysterectomies. That does work? Are women people who menstruate? Nope, women post menopause are still women, same as women who have stopped menstruating for other reasons. It's just the same as apartheid africa where they needed to define who was black, coloured, white, ....
Its sickerning to hear these b'stards, this is our country! You have to understand where this anti-white comes from and the dangers. They did the same in Soviet Russia millions died.
Another top-quality, thoughtful, informative and extremely well-made documentary from NCF. It's also a great little history lesson. Congratulations to all involved in its making.
@@NewCultureForum Pretty accurate but there are errors. For example on the gangs, we all know what they are. You make the error of thinking they weren't committing the same crimes in their own community. I bet they are and that's been covered up too. There are two cover ups. First cover up for "race relation" reasons, the second for religious and cultural reasons. Girls and woman who are the victims are "devalued"
I think you will find that its false equivalence coming from the bnp and edl philip where simply because low skilled paranoid racist simpletons work digging holes in the road this means that all the working class are racist
@@unhingedbracket121 you voted for a compulsive pathological liar who says that people who work from home are distracted by cheese. There aren't enough banana plantations in Blackpool and tells the cbi about peper pig
I love these mini films even if they are melancholy if not outright depressing. It is sad to be ignored by all 3 parties on so many things, not least of them, immigration legal and illegal.
The populist right bang on endlessly about a topic that is used as a tool to get you to vote against your own economic interests. None of them will block immigration because if they did the country would spiral down the toilet economically, the Tories will bang on about it yet in the background still keep handing out visas Unlike when we were in the EU people could just move seamlessly from 1 country to the next now you will get permanent migration from the Indian sub continent Philippines and Nigeria just go look at the latest home office data. Loath it as you may migration keeps economies growing growth means more taxes for the exchequer and in the Tories case more to siphon off to their rich friends.
@@SlowhandGreg Yet for a while there, when a lot of EU migrants left, wages went up. I believe the term is supply and demand. A large supply of labour pushes wages down. A small supply of housing (at least to house all these economic migrants) pushes house prices up. It isn't rocket science. I suspect it is Economics 1.O1.
@@SlowhandGreg If you wanted a proper Guest Worker policy, I am all in. Guaranteed no consideration for permanent residence, ever. Guaranteed that their housing and medical needs are met directly by their employer. As in their employer provides portacabins on site. They do not interact with the general public. There children and spouses remain in their country. A lifetime limit of time in the UK of 5 years. I'm in but that isn't what you mean, is it?
This is an engrossing and measured lesson in 20th-21st century British politics. Can’t wait to watch it again with my daughter who is studying Politics. Enough detail and perspective for those not very familiar without being too overbearing. Well done. 👏👏👏
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit - That's the types of government we used to have, sadly they don't make politicians like that these days only power hungry one that fill their pockets as much as they can
Politicians used to be well educated gentlemen aristocrats who saw it as their duty to be public servants and service Britain. They often had very good understanding of the plight of poor people and worked to alleviate it. Societies only work if they have a cohesive identity and the different parts have a balance of rights AND responsibilities. When you import millions from other cultures who do not integrate and think they are ‘owed’ something their ancestors have not earned and passed down, that social contract starts to break down. As we are seeing.
These days people with ability don't go into politics they instead go into the private sector where they can make a lot more money.That is why our pollies are dickheads today the political system is fill of useless arsoles who go into the political system so they can gets some connections to make up for their own lack of abilities those same politicians end up being connected to the private sector who of course pull the strings and laugh at the pollies behind their backs.What a rotten shop which exists in both Britain and Australia plus every other Western country.
My dad was a bus conductor. He worked all the hours he could to buy a house, I went to a public school all his 4 children went to university, we are all now what you might call middle class. That's what so many working class people want. To improve their lives and those of their children. Many of the working class are small c conservatives, patriotic, socially reserved. This video is an excellent summary of how Labour lost their way. They don't understand the working class and when the working class don't think or act or vote as they think they ought to, they despise them.
@@robinj6137 You could go in back in history forever and find someone who did your ancestors wrong. I could say this about my ancestors were attacked by Avars also by Germans during WW2. Its just history it happened and we moved on. But seems like some people have never moved on and still want to take revenge against people who never did you wrong.
As is correctly identified the lack of calibre of numerous female MPs in The Modern Labour Party is truly shocking. In terms of its original mission they have no business being in The Labour Party at all in my view or in standing on the shoulders of The Giants of the Past. I often wonder just how much contempt Ernest Bevin for one would have for them and their ilk. Many of their male MPs are no better. It’s shameful what they have done to / with The Party gradually over many years. As a working class and white male it’s going to take a seismic shift for me to even consider voting Labour again. Right now I find it inconceivable my ever doing so !!!!!!
You're lucky, at least you can talk about the Labour Party. Here in Scotland we have the SNP - whose leadership is protected by a battery of (at least) twenty-six super-injunctions. Which MSP recently sported a bruised face and how did they receive that bruising? Answer on your arrest warrant if you publish a name.
The standard of MPs is atrocious, especially, as you say, labour women MPs. There are a few good back bench conservative MPs, unfortunately, not many in government.
That's Labour's problem in a nutshell - they're battling "with" the Working Class & not "For" the Working Class. The Labour Party are the 'controlled opposition'., The working class of this country don't have fair political representation. It's what the Establishment fear the most.
I lecture at a Russell Group University. We have to adapt the subjects, so as not to frighten the students with actual work and thought. In consequence a course was devised called 'Law and Society.' It might as well have been called 'The police are all white male racist bastards: discuss.' I was not module leader so I had to "go with the flow." However, "going with the flow" did not mean that I had to digest everything on offer. DIVERSITY ran through the module like Blackpool through a stick of rock. Judges make decisions the way they do because of their ethnic diversity. Well, no they don't actually. In all the studies, (saving one from a feminist conference in Australia), nobody could tell - in a blind reading - what the ethnic or gender or sexuality background of the judge happened to be. What made the difference, as I pointed out to the students, was one factor alone: social class. News got back to my left wing colleagues that I had used the 'C' word in tutorials. Despite having the best student feedback in the year, my contract was not renewed. Looks like the customer is always wrong.
Sorry to hear about that. Hope you found better opportunities! Btw, I didn't understand why the C word was taboo. Doesn't the lefty socialists go on and on about class warfare?
@@oshunvenus Thanks. I moved onward and upward since then. More to the point and you pose an excellent question. So if we cannot tell sex, race, disability, or sexual preference from a blind reading of judgement, it begs the question, 'what does make a difference?" The only answer would seem to be "social class." I write this, by the way, as someone who used to work for Lord Denning and Lady Thatcher, so I have seen this at first hand. So why has 'diversity' replaced 'class'? I would have to say it is because those who teach at these institutions, and invariably send their children to be privately education and have a private health plan etc, do very well out of the class structure thank you very much. Moreover, they hope that their children will too, especially thanks to the 'diversity booster plan.' What is this 'plan'?. Equally, one also looks to self-interest when it comes to 'diversity.' In my day the idea was to have 'equality of access.' Once you got into university, it was down to you, your natural ability, and your hard work. How things have changed. Now the Office for Students have dictated that it is about 'Equality of Outcome.' A very different animal. This 'outcome' is not determined on class (long abandoned) but based on 'diversity characteristics.' A boon for the lazy child of middle-class Black or Asian parents. A disaster for working-class white male children.
@@theplayer2286 Agree with you on everything you mentioned. I am still at a loss to understand though, how does diversity benefit the virtue signalling middle classes? Is virtue signaling brownie points all they are looking for or is it something more? Equality of outcome policy is unfair, stupid and misguided. God help us! Btw, my child would fit in perfectly in the demographic most likely to benefit in current times... average, lazy child of middle class Asian parents. Am keen to see how this pans out over the years. 😀
@@doriannewton8440 The far-right see the working class as criminals and parasites. Boris himself called the working class as criminal, drunk and hopeless. The far-right have an utter hatred of the poor. I see reality. Stop being brainwashed.
It's worse than that: it's a cosmetic diversity in high status positions, while not helping people in less privileged positions. The wealthy elites slap each other on the back for their "Equity", or promotion by ideology, while ignoring the people struggling to make ends meet.
It's been a long time since I laughed at Diane Abbott although she does deserve to be mocked. It's just not funny to me that someone so obviously incompetent and hypocritical is allowed to sit on Labour's front bench. Every time she opens her mouth more voters turn away from Labour.
Utterly fantastic documentary… again. I believe this is so Spot on, it is so needed to comment on…the decline in Britain since Blair’s destroying of this country..yes this Champagne Socialist started in the 1960’s, but Blair’s ilk really brought it into are institutions and country, through demographic change and the Tories have continued this utter carnage… these shows should be broadcasted on the BBC to show what is taking place..Britain is anti white British working class.. Warwickshire is now Labour ChampagneSocialist heaven like Multicultural London..these two places I grew up in… it breaks my heart to see this taking place.. My country is being destroying in front of my eyes… The country has been sold out to Foreigners and multicultural Anywheres coming here to take the utter piss..
Your ah fan ay Dominic raab , he used the champagne socialist line couple ay weeks ago ay , your wur obviously impressed , fur maist other people that went oot years ago ay after daily mail , the sun n other shite excuses fur papers proper kicked the fckn arse oot it , meaningless right wing pish . By the way this presenter probably votes/voted labour n will do again
I personally consider myself to be a natural Labour voter. Thank you for articulating so perfectly why I have never voted for them since I have been able.
The working class wants a fair day's pay for a fair day's work. Beyond that, the working class is quite capable of taking care of themselves. When will politicians realise this?
Ahh but that would meaning stamping all over their private central bank and it's anonymous shareholders lending us money bearing interest, usury, a charge for the use of money, regardless of production or potential for production. To give you what you said , two things must happen, one the issue of money is in the hands of elected government, and not private individuals or corporations, and secondly develop industries here, on 0 or 0.5% 100 year loans, and allow the workers enough tickets,( money ) to buy the products they produce, and any excesses of money must be incinerated upon yearly intelligence and forecasts. No national debt and deficit to pay the private central bank of England and BIS shareholders and as the money is spent into existence bearing no debt. Prosperity, for all, in peace and independence in war for all. Transparent light,, and fair instead of dark, shady and secretively. That is what is stopping you getting it, and that s also how you get it.
An excellent analysis. As a disaffected working-class former Trade Unionist/Labour Party activist I can concur with so much of what was conveyed in this insightful film. I am now politically homeless and did something a few weeks ago when I, for the first time ever, deliberately spoiled my ballot paper. It was a long time coming, I'm afraid. There have been many catalysts which have led to this sad situation in my life. The sheer abuse I received, for instance, from middle-class Lefties in the Movement because I voted for Brexit, shall stay with me now forever. I want nothing more to do with a Party that tolerates people as those prepared to spout such vile language. Likewise, I want nothing more to do with a Party that bends its knee for bogus causes as espoused by BLM. And I certainly don't want to be associated with a party that now promotes what amounts to sheer racism disguised as anti-racism.
Such open and unashamed bigotry from that Labour guy in the opening clip. And Labour wonders why people like me will never ever vote for them again ...
I wholeheartedly agree with what was said here! Every word!! Thank you too for the education on past Labour leaders! Living in London and an ex Labour supporter, I hold my head high, my shoulder's back and stand by my own principals. I speak as an equal and in no way as white & privileged! What an absolute cheek, that any White Working Class individual has ever been privileged, hard work & hard graft! There is no real equality in Labour's definition of the white working class...
Excellent documentary. Politics, history and message aside, I think the cinematography is really great. Every shot is like a well composed photograph. I hugely enjoyed it from a visual perspective.
If you look at it from the Globalist-Corporate new-monarchy point of view it has been a decades long knee capping of workers. I have been following the global Freedom movement for the last 4 months. I was inspired by the Canadian Truckers movement. I have gained more civics education in the last 4 months than I ever had before. The obstacles seem overwhelming but on the other side, those who have a working background have a real and PRACTICAL understanding of the world that the “laptop class” doesn’t. If the workers communicate with each other internationally there may be ideas to combat the usurpers of our democracies. WORKERS ARE SMARTER. Eloquence can come in different forms.
I have a feeling we've lowered our expectations and the people we elect have fallen below even that level. Dumbed down Britain. Sad. To MP's of all parties - 'your reputation is built on what you do when you think no one is watching.' The trouble is, we're watching and we are not impressed right now.
Interesting how EVERYTHING has become politicised. You can look at the way people dress and have a pretty good stab at who they vote for, their views on Brexit, The gender dispute, abortion, all this by their clothes and probably the colour of their hair. It's not a hard and fast rule but I bet I get it right more than I get it wrong. How have we got to this?
“We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependents, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant-descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre.” Enoch Powell 1968 Britain... R.I.P
@@mogznwaz Yes it should, and the ethic population should be kept above 90% at all times, the fact that it has long since fallen below that and steadily continuing to fall year in year, is why we see the conflicts within British society today.
@@EmpiricalMind For me, the most dangerous aspects of modern life in this country, is the divide that has been struck between the two tribes of "the intelligent" and the "obviously a moron" sides, who can NEVER see the point of view of each other. Of course, it's the members of the "intelligent" tribe who put people into the "moron" tribe, as noone else is capable of doing so. The "moron tribe" however, are the only ones who seem to realize the problems of the future, where immigration is leading to a country where rape and killing of women and children is part of ethnic life, but your not allowed to make a fuss about it, in case some minorities get upset. But the more people shout out at the injustice of such behaviour from certain minorities, the more they are called 'racists' for not being tolerant of minorities. This country has democracy, where people are allowed to have different views to their fellows (no..not really these days I know) but being different now means your either a 'racist' or a 'woke activist'. If your NOT one or the other, then you are obviously a TRAITOR. BEWARE!!...Call someone a traitor long enough and often enough and that person is likely to turn on you and bite your hand of friendship or family or neighbourhood or society, as sure as an abused dog is like to bite the hand that beats it, on a seemingly daily basis. I freely put myself in the "obviously a moron" tribe, as I have different views to my friends and voted different to them in the leave/stay referendum (that has fatally split this country) But THEY don't realise that thinking of someone as being of the 'moron tribe' (unlike them of course) is loosing them a friend who would charge through a metaphoric brick wall and into the fire to save them, if or when the time comes. Who's in the moron tribe now do YOU think people? Are YOU 'intelligent' or a 'moron'.?
@@sirmalus5153 Well put, personally I wouldn't put myself in either tribe, as you stated, others perception of you based purely on where you stand on any topic, depends on both the topic and the individual, e.g. a very close friend of over 35 years, after the EU referendum called me "a little Englander" we might be very close on many interests, but our views for the future of this country couldn't be more different, he certainly considers himself "intelligent" and me a "moron" maybe we will only find out if he's right when it's too late.
@@mogznwaz Immigration status generally is initially temporary, even for EU citizens migrating to other EU countries: you can't just arrive and claim benefits. The idea of uncontrolled immigration isn't as simple as it sounds. As a UK national migrating to Germany I had to show that I was committed to the country and could support my family and integrated into the society before I could become German. Now I work with refugees; they are also expected to leave as soon as it is safe to do so, unless they can also prove they have language ability and a job.
Too many white men. In England a country built by white men. A country who’s natives are white men and woman. Tell me milk shake. Would you say the same thing in Kenya, Zimbabwe, China or Iran?
How come it’s ok to be racist towards white men? Imagine if I said there are too many black people in the England football team? I don’t actually care how many there are but you get the point, I just want to see the best players whatever colour they are.
I despair about the state of the current shambolic Labour party. As this excellent film exposes, Labour have made themselves unelectable. This allows the disgraceful Bullington Club tories to have free reign in Westminister and the Uber-woke SNP to rule Scotland under 'Queen' Sturgeon.
Labour's values and objectives are now set in North London, not North Lancashire. London is NOT Britain. The Labour Party was borne out of looking after THE WHITE WORKING CLASS. Nothing more - for there was nothing more 120 years ago ( or even 70 years ago). Having Wide Open Borders harms one set of people more than any - the Working Class. Yet still modern Labour wants it. Of course, most Immigrants vote Labour...which then means Labour adopts policies and attitudes that those immigrants - current & future - want to see. Labour is the party of guilt-ridden professionals and immigrants, and little else. The only good thing about that is a low probability of Labour being in power again.
By the year 2065 all natives of Briton will be a minority. Today native British are already a minority in their own capital of London. Soon the UK will have an Indian prime minister. Eventually the native British will be stripped of their history, from a Roman outpost to medieval knights, to the enlightenment, to the age of exploration, to the industrial revolution - millennia of history will be liquidated. The country will be run from then on by Indians - forever. Eventually the entire nation will be sold off to India and used as a dumping ground.
I left the UK in 73 for a fresh start and hopefully a better life. Which I did find in Australia after a while. Unfortunately some of the problems I ran away from pursued me all the way to Australia, and I did reflect that maybe I should have stayed in the UK after all. So I took another look at my country of birth. It has degenerated into a far worse place than I could ever have imagined. Then I realised how much better my life is in Australia today. Britain today is slowly but surely turning into Gulag. It cannot ever be "fixed" only endured.
Top quality analysis and reporting. The point about why would anyone vote for a party that thinks they are priviledged, racist, and all the rest is well made and is just one more reason in a long list of why Labour is unelectable. Despising the working class because they dared to better themselves just shows how it is about a hatred of the rich and nothing about helping the people.
The exact same criticism can be leveled at the Tories. The truth is that most people vote based on the false belief that one of the main parties will do something for them. If we actually get to grips with the idea that the goverment is not there for the vast majority of the population. The Tories are totally not there for the majority. The PM is a well documented liar with a history of contempt for anyone poor, or in his opinion a pleb, indeed anyone not of his privleged class. The vast majority of his cabinet are rich, upper class people, with the most patritian views. I agree that Labour also does not represent the workers in the way it used to at least appear to. However, if we do not have an opposition we do not have a democracy. I would rather elect a different party, every two terms regardless of their levels of inconptetence and irrelevance of their ideologies, than to allow back door totalitarianism. Which is what we currently have.
@@stephenbrookes7268 It would be much better to have a system of proportional representation so that people can vote for the party and policies they want, instead of the democratic sham of having two parties and then voting against the party that you don't want in power.
@@englishpayerofgermantaxes8186 Like many ideologies this looks like an ideal solution. However, it is not without its pitfalls. There are potentially as many opinions on everything as there are people. Therefore, under PR, there is the potential for there to be 1 political party per voter. Some people simply don't have the will, desire or ability to make decisions. There are in fact quite a large group that do not want to take any responsibility. These people are very susceptible to extremists. Extremists offer simplistic solutions to complex issues and the majority see only simplicity. PR could and has led to Fascism. What would be better would be an apolitical party. A party built entirely on the needs of the masses as opposed to their ideology. However, this needs to be one option but without too many options.
@@stephenbrookes7268 I'm kind of responding to the entirety of this particular part of the debate. Our nation's dysfunctional democracy inevitably alienates large sections of the voting population because the way the first past the post system ensures huge swathes of the electorate are ignored. As for allowing 'back door totalitarianism'? The parliamentary system has always encouraged its Prime Ministers to act as elected dictators. It's setup to work that way. That Bojo the clown had failed to capitalise on his enviable position to achieve anything of worth shows that his strengths as a campaigner aren't matched by his skills as a politician, as a Prime Minister. That he won a landslide on the last election really didn't surprise me, even though the con-trick he pulled should have been obvious to all. He turned typical Labour voters blue by making unrealistic promises of 'levelling up' whilst appealing to their social conservatism. No political party can possibly gain power by appealing to one section of society only. Tribal loyalty, in and of itself, is not enough to gain power. Nor is ideology. What's left after that? Self-interest, which is part of what has created the cultural factionalism that appears to exist. The focus becomes 'what are my or my faction's interests', as opposed to 'what is in the best interests of this country'. Political debate becomes a slagging match with neither side interested in doing anything more than appealing to their faction, or at least trying not to alienate them, as opposed to making a persuasive argument: 'chanted slogans' as opposed to reasoned arguments. That the white working classes lack adequate political representation is not a new problem by any stretch of the imagination, as the video points out. When Major said that the working classes no longer exist, what he sought to do was deny them representation - if you don't exist how can anyone legitimately represent you? Nor is it a problem confined to that group alone. That is a dangerous situation for any democracy to be in. Apathy is not the only reason people don't vote. It strikes me that alienation - I will not vote because I am not represented - and cynicism - they're all a bunch of incompetent hypocrites, or crooks unworthy of office - represent far bigger problems that perpetuate themselves. Reform will only ever be part of the solution. Keeping the current voting system for parliament, while introducing PR for an elected lower house to keep parliament in check with regards legislation as opposed to governance, could probably work. It would almost certainly end the increasing tendency towards apathy, alienation, and cynicism: it would have the benefits of PR by ensuring everybody is represented at some level, while ensuring undesirable fringe elements never play a significant role in governance. But the dysfunction within the current system is not the only reason we're currently in this mess. The sad truth is that the country deserved both Brexit and Bojo the Clown. We deserve the factionalism that encourages the ruling government of the day to focus on inciting and exacerbating cultural conflict, as opposed to effectively running the country; it's proven to be an effective campaigning strategy. The truth of any democracy, regardless of how it functions, is that people get the leadership they deserve.
@@matthewwatkins7473 Maybe you meant PR elected upper house. If you propose to do away with the House of Lords, as in the automatic right of some useless toff wastril to be part of the government and cronies of the corrupt party getting a life peerage as pay off for the money laundering, gerrymandering, palm greasing, diverting tax to private sector and other self promoting BS, (Boris will become Lord Scarecrow of Lech or Lord Lothario) then yes let the upper house be elected and PR would be perfect. As the Lords of merit usually form up loose coalitions regardless of their party, on important constitutional issues. I still think we should have a larger number of mainstream parties limited to say 10 and the last party to hold office misses a turn on the next election. This would effectively end the party loyalty dogma and force the electorate to vote on issues not tradition. The first past the post needs to be based on the first to gain an ansolute majority. 51%.This may require a second ballot. Eg 10 parties - 1 the encumbant. 9 campaign. Non PR voting. If say 3 parties got 20% each the other 6 shared 40%. Now it's a 3 horse race. 2nd ballot 40 35 25 then 2 fight in the 3rd ballot. The worst case scenario is a tie 50 50.we get a hung parliament. So no overal power. Ideal government.
Maybe it’s time to look at smaller parties. Even if all they can be are pressure groups. Got to start somewhere. It would be good to vote for something instead of against something.
I can understand the urge people on the right have to begrudgingly vote Tory simply because they're scared of handing power to Labour, but at some point you have to draw a line in the sand. I'm fairly young but I've never voted Tory, always the minority right parties (UKIP, Brexit, probably Reform or Reclaim next), and I wish more people would bite the bullet and do the same. If you keep propping up the Tories as they drift further away from your interests, you'll always be politically homeless and you're just delaying the inevitable.
@@harambae7014 keeping labour out is crucial though, the idea that you can just allow labour in for a term is dreadful, look at the damage done when they were last in power, we are still in their mess today, this is why it is start to vote against them to not make things any worse
I think in multiracial societies, ethnic interests take precedent. I’ve been watching this gradually happen over the last 25 tears - I used to be Labour but stopped voting because it didn’t represent me any more & have never voted Tory. Labour is morphing into the immigrant party; Tory (maybe) the English party, or will in time. It’s a seriously backward step for democracy.
Immigrants have come in under all party's. It's part of capitalist demands. Worker's for low paying business that make large amounts of money. The problem is you want to blame other groups for a problem that is home grown.
They rip open the oldest wounds and make themselves bleed to death from scars long since healed, they make evil-doers out of friend, wife, child, and anyone else near them. - Friedrich Nietzsche
@@helenmcg7607 nietzsche is referring to societies that focus on past misgivings and idealise suffering, his term ressentement. It’s from “on the genealogy of morals”
I used to do a lot of 'contributor' work with BBC Radio Leeds (purged for being a Brexiteer) and was asked to attend a lot of 5-Live debates broadcast from Media City Salford Quays. Some fat, spotty, pasty-faced green-haired sea monster told me that I was "personally responsible for the murder of Jo Cox" because I supported Brexit. My reply: "Sorry Luv, I've a cast-iron alibi. I was in the BBC Radio Leeds studio doing my weekly 'money spot' broadcast when it happened!"
Labour was created by non-conformist Christians and, latterly, influenced by Catholic social doctrine. Its motivation at the beginning was always CHRISTIAN, not political. Unfortunately, from the beginning, ACTUAL socialists, ie, ideological and doctrinal socialists parasited their way onto the backs of the dignified poor who started the party, and that tension has been a feature of the part from day one. Doctrinal socialists are all about division. The utter contempt of the poor comes from this hatred of Christianity; the poor weren't ideologically pure enough for these vanguardists. Unfortunately, after a century, the parasites have finally wrested full control of the party into their hands.
An excellent analysis. Subscribed. My father used to say that the country gets the Government it deserves and I am afraid those words will become true again.
I was saying that in the 1980s. This corruption and lack of choice in our main political parties has been evident for decades. They all follow the peverse globalist narratives to varying degrees.
Even as an Irish man who has issue with your policy in mu country I feel sad at the rapid decline of old Britain,it seems the left have sold out their people for some pie in the sky future,you fought hard in many wars to keep your freedom,stay true to yourselves.!
Thanks, unfortunately I fear the same will happen in Ireland. The fact is we all now live in a globalist world, dictated by economic imperative, and leaders don't care about the natives of Western countries, or what they want.
I am white, Welsh and grew up in a council estate. I have been poor all my life and I come from a family that has always voted labour. I voted for the Tories in the last election because they are the only party who got us out of the EU and are trying to curb mass immigration. Despite being a terrible PM and absolute wanker I applaud him for not bending to the populist woke ideology and saying plainly what a woman is. I just can't identify with labour anymore because they are no longer a party that represents working class white people like me. All they care about is currying favour with university lecturers and minorities groups and activists. They are as much removed from the real world as the Tories are. I hope one day soon they come back to their senses because I am fed up with the Tories, but I doubt they will. I hope someone creates a party made exclusively of working class people. Plumbers, brickies, nurses, policemen, cleaners ex services, etc... folks who speak plainly like me who are invested in the real world because they live in it. NO TEACHERS though. They are very much apart of this anti-white, anti-british, white-privilage fascist wave that's going about that wants to erase our history and culture. If anyone wants to form a party like this then let me know, I will happily represent my constituency 👍
Celticowl. One year on I find this and agree wholeheartedly. As a Gog who’s lived overseas for a number of years , I despair every time I return to the U.K. at what’s been allowed to happen. Last year I visited my mother near Ruthin and took her to Wrexham where we have relatives. The place and people had changed beyond all recognition under Drakeford. Rhyl is the same. All the parties political class are used goods and devoid of any vision , leadership or patriotism. They are in thrall to some utopian dream like the Coca Cola advert from the 70’s ( I’d like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony). Even Plaid don’t even speak for the Welsh anymore and kow tow to the latest fads. Even to the point of quietly supporting the dropping of Welsh as a requirement for public sector jobs as it’s “discriminatory” to the “ New Welsh “ 🤔. It’s beyond redemption I fear . Take care.
Reform party, For Britain Movement with Anne Marie Waters, Britain First, Patriotic Alternative, English Democrats, British Democrats, British National Party, UKIP, the National Front. These are your alternatives to the current crop of left wing champagne socialist/liberals 🍾. Be proud, Be British. And hold your head up high.
There are too many alternatives , no one is aware of what they stand for, and relying on white voters won't get anyone anywhere. They need to get together, as with first past the post they can only be pressure groups.
incredible. everything I feel and think; and if I had the time might have put together - but you've done a sterling job here. best piece of journalism I've seen in a long time.
As someone who’s working class, I’ll NEVER waste my vote on the current Conservative,Labour or Lib Dem parties. The only political party that would have got my vote at the last general election was UKIP, and look what a disaster that turned out to be. Pulling out all of their candidates where the Conservatives candidates were standing so as to stop the Labour Party getting into office. There is no political party that represents me now, therefore, I will not be voting ever again if this is the best our “democracy” has to offer.
The downfall started with Tony Blair and has only got worse. People only voted for brexit as a chance for change. If you've already got nothing do you vote for the same or a chance for something differant. Then for Labour to tell us we were wrong and they'll put us back in was the last nail in the coffin for them in the northern towns.
My father was born in London in the East End in 1918. I arrived from America in 1975 - you could say it was at the fag-end of Britain’s greatness. But the greatness was still there - at least to me and I loved it - loved it. Fast forward to 2016 and as a Brexit supporter I hadn’t a friend left amongst the herbivores, and I decided to leave for Trumpland. I am so sad about this - but I fear I pine for a Britain that is no longer there. Still, I have faith in you guys, and I love you and miss you.
I can't help thinking if politicians were given lower salaries and expenses, banned from any second jobs, banned from owning any kind of shares and only allowed three terms as an MP in their life, the quality of candidates would increase dramatically as it would remove the vast number who got into it for the plentiful life-long gravy train it currently represents, and more real people of principle who want to serve their country and community might stand because they knew they wouldn't have to work with the gravy train lot.
You are right Chris. Half of the politicians are/or were, solicitors or barristers. It should not be allowed. These people are greed merchants and are bleeding us into the ground financially.
I worked with guy in the civil service, he loved Labour and yes he was muslim, his dad was a millionaire which resulted in this guy getting a rent free flat in a swanky part of Cambridge, daddies Platinum Amex and having no fear of unemployment. His politics were 6th form school boy at best, when you engaged with him invariably he would lose, which must mean (coming from him) I was racist. He would try and shout down anyone turn and walk away, he was truly vile. Any way he was moved to another dept and sadly we could still hear him, a dept head came over and said 'doesnt that pr1ck ever shut up'. He was truly hated, a typical champagne socialist
Hit the nail on the head, good to see Morley my birthplace and my old school in Batley featuring. Really brings it home how these places have been changed largely by immigration. Morley still a bit like Rourke's Drift, fighting a losing battle surrounded by Batley, Dewsbury, Holbeck, Beeston multi cultural shitholes one and all. When I passed the 11 plus and went to Batley Grammar in 1977 there were two Asians in the whole year, now it seems they get to call the shots and have teachers living in hiding for disrespecting their 'sky fairy'. Sad.
Truly great documentary and wonderful history piece. I am saying this as a working class white male who has never voted Labour and going by the current state of the party probably never will. The late John Smith leader of Labour from 1992 to 1994 would have been the only man of the Red I would have whole heartedly given my vote to. I honestly think he could have achieved great things had he not passed away before he had the chance to prove it
I miss the days when we had documentaries like this on TV, this was really well put together with a lot of interesting information about the way the left in this country has gone from a worthy ideal to the degenerate champagne socialism of today. Really high quality output from NCF as usual.
Beautifully photographed, balanced delivery and a presentation to make Left and Right stop for a moment an think - an accurate critique without cynical criticism. How refreshing to see a political discussion presented so artfully! Much appreciated.
I'm sick of hearing that word Diversity like it's all that well and I'm white working class and a former Marine and I'm damned proud of it! Say it proud say loud I'm White and I'm proud! Say it loud say it proud I'm White and I'm proud! I'm not a Nazi nor a Commie I'm saying it loud I'm White and I'm proud!
I'll never return to Labour as they are no longer representative of myself, where I live or my class status. I'm proud to be a working class white male who has worked hard to rise from a lowly apprentice into a professional job. Unfortunately I voted Conservative for the first time ever in the last GE and I'll never do it again. I've now got nobody to vote for so I'm just going to sit on the sidelines and watch this all unravel.
It would be good to have a more sensible centrist party. The string of leaders the conservatives have chosen has been lackluster, and Labour has fallen to the loony left, so there is currently not much to choose from.
My days of voting Labour have gone, with Starmer my disenfranchisement is complete. Current Labour no longer represents me, a working class son of a working class father. I'm not middle class or trans enough
Fantastistic thoughtful commentary on the history of the Labour Party, its founding fathers, its Giants and its current pitiful MPs, Leadership and political focus. The Labour Partys founders would not recognise the current Labour Party nor its current leadership. They are professional salaried impostors that have hijacked a political working class tradition for their own egoistic and financial gain. The British White Working Class need to reclaim their cultural inheritance from the middle class, multucultural impostors who have culturally appropriated their cultural political tradition. There were no middle class characters, trans activists, Islamic activists, radical feminists, or any other activists in EP Thomsons "Making of the English Working Class". Learn your history, respect your culture, preserve your traditions, and be prepared to do whatever you need to do to preserve them against those that seek destroy them.
Perhaps local election voting cards should have a new tick box at the bottom labelled "I only chose the candidate I ticked above because the rest of them are even worse" - and if 25% of the electorate tick it, regardless of their choices above, the election is repeated in a month's time with none of the original candidates allowed to stand.
A very nicely put together film and good to see you in Morley for parts of it. I've often felt the big difference between Labour and Tories is that the latter know who their audience are. As others have said Labour abandoned their traditional WWC voters decades ago. The quote from Barnett (a historian well worth studying for anyone interested in just how badly the UK screwed it up after WW2) hinted at a darker truth; namely that the working class needed to be kept relatively poor and needy otherwise they'd vote Tory. Thatcher realised this and exploited it mercilessly. I think Blair realised it too but its hard to suggest that modern Labour Party has any use for the working class except as the target for their derision. This why they're still in opposition despite over 10 years of the worst government in living memory (if not ever!)
You need to produce things in your own country to make use of a working clas, and to do that you have to reform the finance and economic system, as a prerequisite, and that means ripping the issue of money from private individuals and corporations, ( he shareholders in the private central bank of England, and the elected government issuing the money as they did with the Bradbury for the first world war, pound which bore no interest. Usury the charge for use of money , regardless of production, or potential of production. You fix the money problem, and you can then have your elected government make a development bank, giving 100 year loans at 0 or 0.5% interest, to build industry agriculture business and infrastructure, and the training necessary, other than that you, keep tabs yearly on what's being produced, and you issue the correct amount of tickets ino the society to purchase the products the society has produced. Enough tickets and no more to consume the wealth. Incinerate the rest based on intelligence and forecasting. Self sustaining society, people prosper, work force filled, happy workforce, skills and labour and products and money all remain in your own country, and you are not paying cost of travel and labour on all these imports. Quality goes up, and price comes down. Tariff walls. And full employments. Prosperous in peace and independent in war. How do we know it. Ben Franklin the printer and founding father of USA told us about scrip money in the colonies and how it was possible the colonies were living better than the mother country. Tickets section. he econominc side is from Henry Charles Carey the economist, who Abe Lincoln followed as President, and there was a before and after Abe Lincoln, and that is where America became the most powerful and wealthy country on earth following that industry development and protective tarrif walls theory of Henry Charles Carey. Bank of North Dakota works on a similar principle as a development bank. The working classes would soon be doing well if these steps were introduced. But as I have well read, from Henry St John (Lord Bolingsbroke ) who worked in the treasury, in his time, who told, in his writings, these politicians since the creation of the Bank of England, see their main duty, on behalf of their bosses in the bankers bank, and the Governments Government as Gladstone called it, , to keep the country in sufficient debt to line the pockets of these today legally anonymous shareholders. Their main duty. My point is this is the business that keeps London rich and the rest of us pensioners feeding off scraps. As if this wretched foreign country of London, was more important than the entire British population and nation, I believe that happens through two methods. Concealment through PPE and similar educative programmes, (that is, Oxford University degrees in philosophy, politics and economics (PPE), where alternatives models more successful are censored likely from the education of students, ) Also more than likely the funding or donations, for such programmes come from the interested parties who sit behind the bank and continue to profi via a lack of meddling from heir debt based interest scam. ,If that be so, we have a self fulfilling prophecy, so new politicians are ignorant of possibilities, that would make the nation wealthy outside of London, and as a whole, and secondly a certain amount of political families, likely smaller today than it was previously was , are and were probably direct private shareholders within their families. this would certainly have been he case at the turn of the last century. Anyway there is what needs to be done for masses to prosper and live good lives, in a safe and secure decent society I believe, at least as far as the economics and finance. If you gave it all a slighly digital and modern tweak, you'd end up with the Japanese model for production more or less, but the good and decent money , and elected governments sovereign power to issue it ,is the first and most important or you can do nothing for workers and building wealth and prosperity for the people
Just looking at the clip of Herbert Morrison talking over film of walking along the street he grew up on. My golly, those houses are now far beyond the means of most people, only to be inhabited by the well off.
I look back at my 11+ exam in 1966 that sent me from a factory fodder junior school into a new Catholic Boys Grammar School in Birmingham where we were encouraged to look beyond our environment. Most of the kids were of irish descent plus a handful of Polish and English Catholics like me. Most went on to professions, academia, arts, acting, science. I doubt that would have happened had I gone to my local Secondary, now Comp. Labour took down that ladder and the statistics show that the working class proportion of university entrants is lower now than before. Labour kept us in our place !
Thank you NCF. This documentary is a highly professional piece of work in every respect. Very well presented, balanced in terms of perspectives and technically excellent! This is as good or better in terms of production than anything the BBC could produce! Despite the sad story of our downward decline in the UK, it had me gripped until the end.
Its time the idigenous peoples of the uk and europe got the rights so eagerly touted for other indigenous folk in other places. My grandad was a wigan coal miner, he was very active in starting the union. In his later years He no longer supported labour and their elitist marxist intelectuals who usurped the movement. He said , we fought real oppression, kids down the mines and terrible safety, conditions and wages. This crowd does nothing for the real working man.
Superb piece of work. I get so irritated when people call the current crop of Labour MP's 'Socialists' - they are not, I'm from Tyneside and I'll always vote Socialist - but I'll not vote Labour - not any more.
Why socialist though you should keep what you earn and not pay for anyone else above the bare minimum to keep the basics functions working bins roads etc.
Excellent summary - but for me, as a Labour Member in the early '80s it was the 1983 General Election that was the real turning point in Labour activists vitriolic abandoning of the Working Class. I could not believe how bitter and hateful they became when the WC approved Thatcher more than Foot.. They could not understand it and from that day on the WC became traitors and "the enemy" to be fought. The Labour lexicon turned the "Working Class" into "Working People" (which embraced the middle and upper-middle affluent Labour voters) and the left's sentimental dreams of workers in overalls calling each other "comrade" disappeared.
If I turn on the TV in the UK now it appears as if I now live in an African country. If a white man is featured in an advert is usually as someone to mock.
It's always been about class; not race; not religion but a tussle between the haves and have-nots. Those living in their ivory towers, surrounded by opulence and wealth feel it's okay to look down on those who put them there. Today, we have millionaires and billionaires who cry in their mansions about how 'they' are the victims.
Labour do not represent the working class and haven't for some years, alas people still see them as "labour, the working mans party". I am not black, Iam not a woman, I am not gay, exactly why would i vote for labour
Don't know why traditional "left" parties seem unable - or unwilling - to say anything really significant to the workers of our time, except insisting on general "humanitarian" themes that have little direct relationship with the workers' rights and needs. Perhaps they simply have nothing to say, and prefer to speak about something else
"Perhaps they simply have nothing to say, and prefer to speak about something else" Look how passionate they get about climate change and racism though...they more than something to "say" on those policy areas, its more like something to 'scream'.
Please click here to join our membership scheme from £3 per month & with a range of exciting perks & benefits: www.patreon.com/NewCultureForum
- alternatively, for one-off donations via credit / debit card, PayPal or bank transfer, please go to our website: www.newcultureforum.org.uk/donate
On the gg in the north. You yourself have made a mistake. Think about what these criminals are. Do you not think they weren't committing the crimes within their own community? Of course they have and its been covered up. It's just another variant of racism.
ON migration its not about numbers. It's about uneconomic economic migration.
A min wage earner pays £900 a year in tax. The state then spends £16,500 on them [average state spend]. More in practice because of redistribution and then there are future costs like pensions.
Who pays the difference?
Then you have the wage suppression. Competition for low paid jobs, competition for housing, both social and private, schools, health care, ...
@@Nickle314 Yes exactly, the average state spend (the "fixed costs" as it were) are almost always omitted by proponents of immigration when stating the "economic benefits". Its a model that only works when you only import high earners, which of course the UK does not.
@@jannenreuben7398 don't know of any country allowed to import highly skilled persons.
@@lalaholland5929 Who is stopping them? Actually there are plenty: the USA, Canada, Australia etc...
So embarrassing to see the police kneeling down like that. Pathetic.
Yes that was depressing to see.
We shouldn't be kneeling or bowing to anyone.
Should have been sacked the next day.
Grave turning
That copper will have to live with the pain and shame of that moment for the rest of his life.
Labour 1960s : we must defend the British worker and British manufacturing
Labour 2022 : we must defend the right of international finance to import millions of cheap workers and teach children about Trans identity
100%
Definitely true
You facist by any chance ?
Labour were importing cheap foreign labour from 1948 onwards with Windrush instead of raising working class salaries to reasonable levels.
@@johntomlinson6849 Bang on !!!!
This kind of balanced and thoughtful report should be aired daily on the BBC.
😂😂😂 dream on
The BBC?
Don't you mean 'the enemy' ?
Small chance of that I'm afraid
The BBC despise the white working class why would they show an article which shows how politically unrepresented they are ?
Wishful thinking.
Conservatives who are not conservative, Liberals who are illiberal, Greens who are red, and a Labour party who despise the people they were formed to represent. Something has to give.
It reminds me of Romes final years. I guess the collapse of western world in inevitable. I wonder once all the money runs out where all these migrants go next? China? India?
Fascism is coming
The first party that has a solid plan to deal with immigration will dominate. The red wall cracked because immigration disproportionately effects the working class. Brexit was a response to immigration.
And it's endemic all over, not just a British problem. In the US we have Democrats who abhor democracy (they talk about 'endangered democracy,' but they mean 'political reversals,' whether or not the voters endorse those reversals.) We have Republicans who don't know what a republic is, much less their position in it nor what the Constitution they swore to uphold requires of them and their office.
We do have some light in populism, but that's no substitute for an educated, political class that actually upholds the mechanisms, or better yet, ideals of the Constitution. The mob and liberty make for inconstant allies.
@@boobah5643 the mob and liberty were the basis of American and Irish independence. All revolutions are popularist upraisings. Today’s popularism is tomorrow’s constitution and government
An excellent documentary and I agree wholeheartedly with it. Labour Party is no longer for the working class and has not been for a very long time. Too busy promoting a woke agenda of trans ideology, multiculturalism, mass immigration. It gave up the working class many decades ago. I for one would not vote for the Labour Party. It enjoys a London Centric view of the champagne classes now and has abandoned it's working class roots long ago.
Even take the miners. They would be shafted under Labour's green policies.
I've seen Lembit Opik saying in ten years time there will be men having some transplants. I can't unsee that.
Womb transplants.
@@MsMounen Look the whose a woman debate is funny. It's funny because they can't define it without coming across as in dire need of psychiatric help.
So a womb? Does that define a woman? No, lots have had hysterectomies. That does work?
Are women people who menstruate? Nope, women post menopause are still women, same as women who have stopped menstruating for other reasons.
It's just the same as apartheid africa where they needed to define who was black, coloured, white, ....
@@MsMounen no adult human male has given birth yet.
How dare anyone criticise me for being white in my own country?
Well said👏
Bravo!
Its sickerning to hear these b'stards, this is our country! You have to understand where this anti-white comes from and the dangers. They did the same in Soviet Russia millions died.
Lee Gee They dare because they can. It will end Lee. With a bang. We will not allow these loons to govern.
Films like this bring it home just how 'privileged' the working class population of the time was
Another top-quality, thoughtful, informative and extremely well-made documentary from NCF. It's also a great little history lesson. Congratulations to all involved in its making.
Thank you
@@NewCultureForum Pretty accurate but there are errors. For example on the gangs, we all know what they are. You make the error of thinking they weren't committing the same crimes in their own community. I bet they are and that's been covered up too. There are two cover ups. First cover up for "race relation" reasons, the second for religious and cultural reasons. Girls and woman who are the victims are "devalued"
I think you will find that its false equivalence coming from the bnp and edl philip where simply because low skilled paranoid racist simpletons work digging holes in the road this means that all the working class are racist
@@jeremysmith8035 And when you call people racists and think, will they vote for you?
Who then is being stupid?
@@unhingedbracket121 you voted for a compulsive pathological liar who says that people who work from home are distracted by cheese. There aren't enough banana plantations in Blackpool and tells the cbi about peper pig
I love these mini films even if they are melancholy if not outright depressing. It is sad to be ignored by all 3 parties on so many things, not least of them, immigration legal and illegal.
Oh god the edl constantly peddling the false equivence that simply because they are low skilled paranoid racist simpletons all the working class are
The populist right bang on endlessly about a topic that is used as a tool to get you to vote against your own economic interests.
None of them will block immigration because if they did the country would spiral down the toilet economically, the Tories will bang on about it yet in the background still keep handing out visas
Unlike when we were in the EU people could just move seamlessly from 1 country to the next now you will get permanent migration from the Indian sub continent Philippines and Nigeria just go look at the latest home office data.
Loath it as you may migration keeps economies growing growth means more taxes for the exchequer and in the Tories case more to siphon off to their rich friends.
@@SlowhandGreg Yet for a while there, when a lot of EU migrants left, wages went up. I believe the term is supply and demand. A large supply of labour pushes wages down. A small supply of housing (at least to house all these economic migrants) pushes house prices up. It isn't rocket science. I suspect it is Economics 1.O1.
@@SlowhandGreg Immigrants cost more money to the exchequer than the bring in. They also retire and demand pensions.
@@SlowhandGreg If you wanted a proper Guest Worker policy, I am all in. Guaranteed no consideration for permanent residence, ever. Guaranteed that their housing and medical needs are met directly by their employer. As in their employer provides portacabins on site. They do not interact with the general public. There children and spouses remain in their country. A lifetime limit of time in the UK of 5 years. I'm in but that isn't what you mean, is it?
This is an engrossing and measured lesson in 20th-21st century British politics. Can’t wait to watch it again with my daughter who is studying Politics. Enough detail and perspective for those not very familiar without being too overbearing. Well done. 👏👏👏
It's been some time since you wrote this, I wonder if your daughter has watched this and what she thought.
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit - That's the types of government we used to have, sadly they don't make politicians like that these days only power hungry one that fill their pockets as much as they can
Politicians used to be well educated gentlemen aristocrats who saw it as their duty to be public servants and service Britain. They often had very good understanding of the plight of poor people and worked to alleviate it.
Societies only work if they have a cohesive identity and the different parts have a balance of rights AND responsibilities. When you import millions from other cultures who do not integrate and think they are ‘owed’ something their ancestors have not earned and passed down, that social contract starts to break down. As we are seeing.
@@mogznwaz Sadly those days are long gone
You've summed it up perfectly
@@mogznwaz Lol, do me a favor. Aristocrats caring about the plight of the poor.
These days people with ability don't go into politics they instead go into the private sector where they can make a lot more money.That is why our pollies are dickheads today the political system is fill of useless arsoles who go into the political system so they can gets some connections to make up for their own lack of abilities those same politicians end up being connected to the private sector who of course pull the strings and laugh at the pollies behind their backs.What a rotten shop which exists in both Britain and Australia plus every other Western country.
My dad was a bus conductor. He worked all the hours he could to buy a house, I went to a public school all his 4 children went to university, we are all now what you might call middle class. That's what so many working class people want. To improve their lives and those of their children. Many of the working class are small c conservatives, patriotic, socially reserved.
This video is an excellent summary of how Labour lost their way. They don't understand the working class and when the working class don't think or act or vote as they think they ought to, they despise them.
The differences in the old film clips of Britain and the modern ones are profoundly shocking.
Its almost as if societies change.
What goes around comes around
@@robinj6137 Bore off. We’ll pay when we get our cheque from Rome and Normandy.
@@robinj6137 what do you mean by "What goes around comes around"
Yes, standards have been driven to lowest common denomination
@@robinj6137 You could go in back in history forever and find someone who did your ancestors wrong. I could say this about my ancestors were attacked by Avars also by Germans during WW2. Its just history it happened and we moved on. But seems like some people have never moved on and still want to take revenge against people who never did you wrong.
Another excellent mini- documentary .
Keep up the good work .
As is correctly identified the lack of calibre of numerous female MPs in The Modern Labour Party is truly shocking. In terms of its original mission they have no business being in The Labour Party at all in my view or in standing on the shoulders of The Giants of the Past. I often wonder just how much contempt Ernest Bevin for one would have for them and their ilk. Many of their male MPs are no better. It’s shameful what they have done to / with The Party gradually over many years. As a working class and white male it’s going to take a seismic shift for me to even consider voting Labour again. Right now I find it inconceivable my ever doing so !!!!!!
You're lucky, at least you can talk about the Labour Party. Here in Scotland we have the SNP - whose leadership is protected by a battery of (at least) twenty-six super-injunctions. Which MSP recently sported a bruised face and how did they receive that bruising? Answer on your arrest warrant if you publish a name.
Well a real strong women dos not need the feminist victim hood, that might explain one or two things of labour and the women in it.
The standard of MPs is atrocious, especially, as you say, labour women MPs. There are a few good back bench conservative MPs, unfortunately, not many in government.
Here here
There is no such thing as an injection, super or otherwise in Scotland.
That's Labour's problem in a nutshell - they're battling "with" the Working Class & not "For" the Working Class.
The Labour Party are the 'controlled opposition'., The working class of this country don't have fair political representation. It's what the Establishment fear the most.
God forbid working class boy's doing well at school.
Who would fix everything?
It’s a problem throughout the western world at the moment. I speak from Perth Australia
Spot on, thats why a new party needs to be formed
I'm also from Australia, I think we are watching the end of democracy..
I lecture at a Russell Group University. We have to adapt the subjects, so as not to frighten the students with actual work and thought. In consequence a course was devised called 'Law and Society.' It might as well have been called 'The police are all white male racist bastards: discuss.'
I was not module leader so I had to "go with the flow." However, "going with the flow" did not mean that I had to digest everything on offer.
DIVERSITY ran through the module like Blackpool through a stick of rock. Judges make decisions the way they do because of their ethnic diversity. Well, no they don't actually. In all the studies, (saving one from a feminist conference in Australia), nobody could tell - in a blind reading - what the ethnic or gender or sexuality background of the judge happened to be. What made the difference, as I pointed out to the students, was one factor alone: social class.
News got back to my left wing colleagues that I had used the 'C' word in tutorials.
Despite having the best student feedback in the year, my contract was not renewed.
Looks like the customer is always wrong.
Thanks for giving me a little hope that not everyone in the education system is a Marxist. Stay strong 💪
"The Police are all white male racist bastards.." Demonstrably not true, a good proportion of the police identify as female....
Sorry to hear about that. Hope you found better opportunities! Btw, I didn't understand why the C word was taboo. Doesn't the lefty socialists go on and on about class warfare?
@@oshunvenus Thanks. I moved onward and upward since then. More to the point and you pose an excellent question.
So if we cannot tell sex, race, disability, or sexual preference from a blind reading of judgement, it begs the question, 'what does make a difference?"
The only answer would seem to be "social class." I write this, by the way, as someone who used to work for Lord Denning and Lady Thatcher, so I have seen this at first hand.
So why has 'diversity' replaced 'class'? I would have to say it is because those who teach at these institutions, and invariably send their children to be privately education and have a private health plan etc, do very well out of the class structure thank you very much. Moreover, they hope that their children will too, especially thanks to the 'diversity booster plan.'
What is this 'plan'?.
Equally, one also looks to self-interest when it comes to 'diversity.' In my day the idea was to have 'equality of access.' Once you got into university, it was down to you, your natural ability, and your hard work. How things have changed. Now the Office for Students have dictated that it is about 'Equality of Outcome.' A very different animal. This 'outcome' is not determined on class (long abandoned) but based on 'diversity characteristics.' A boon for the lazy child of middle-class Black or Asian parents. A disaster for working-class white male children.
@@theplayer2286 Agree with you on everything you mentioned. I am still at a loss to understand though, how does diversity benefit the virtue signalling middle classes? Is virtue signaling brownie points all they are looking for or is it something more?
Equality of outcome policy is unfair, stupid and misguided. God help us! Btw, my child would fit in perfectly in the demographic most likely to benefit in current times... average, lazy child of middle class Asian parents. Am keen to see how this pans out over the years. 😀
Labour HATE the working class.
Labour loves the working class.
Labour is centre-left.
It is the far-right that see the working class as criminal and parasites.
@@invernessfan3017 You carry on...
Get a reality pill.
Immigrant working class yes, but not Brits.
@@doriannewton8440 The far-right see the working class as criminals and parasites. Boris himself called the working class as criminal, drunk and hopeless.
The far-right have an utter hatred of the poor.
I see reality. Stop being brainwashed.
@@doriannewton8440 Labour cares about the underdog. It does not matter if the underdog is white or in an ethnic minority,
"Ethnic minority status trumps merit, to deliver a cosmetic diversity"
It's worse than that: it's a cosmetic diversity in high status positions, while not helping people in less privileged positions. The wealthy elites slap each other on the back for their "Equity", or promotion by ideology, while ignoring the people struggling to make ends meet.
Putting quotation marks around a few words does not make them into a wise quotation. Pretty racist though.
@@Pstephen Giving status to ethnics for being ethnics is special needs liberal thinking.....not racism
@@EldergodUK Nailed nothing to add .
Diana Abacus always makes me laugh as she is an example of somebody whom should not be a politician at all
It's been a long time since I laughed at Diane Abbott although she does deserve to be mocked. It's just not funny to me that someone so obviously incompetent and hypocritical is allowed to sit on Labour's front bench. Every time she opens her mouth more voters turn away from Labour.
To be fair to her, she was democratically elected.. safe seat though
@@ArcadeCabNBud That maybe so but it would not be the first time an election was nobbled
She was Shadow Home Secretary at one election. Pause for reflection!
@s And look at the state of the world because of it
Utterly fantastic documentary… again. I believe this is so Spot on, it is so needed to comment on…the decline in Britain since Blair’s destroying of this country..yes this Champagne Socialist started in the 1960’s, but Blair’s ilk really brought it into are institutions and country, through demographic change and the Tories have continued this utter carnage… these shows should be broadcasted on the BBC to show what is taking place..Britain is anti white British working class.. Warwickshire is now Labour ChampagneSocialist heaven like Multicultural London..these two places I grew up in… it breaks my heart to see this taking place.. My country is being destroying in front of my eyes… The country has been sold out to Foreigners and multicultural Anywheres coming here to take the utter piss..
Absolutely correct, and many of our own white population are actually selling themselves out unknowingly to ethnic minorities!!
Your ah fan ay Dominic raab , he used the champagne socialist line couple ay weeks ago ay , your wur obviously impressed , fur maist other people that went oot years ago ay after daily mail , the sun n other shite excuses fur papers proper kicked the fckn arse oot it , meaningless right wing pish . By the way this presenter probably votes/voted labour n will do again
Keep burying your head in the sand. The Tories are not pro-working class either; they just exploit the working class for their own purposes.
I personally consider myself to be a natural Labour voter.
Thank you for articulating so perfectly why I have never voted for them since I have been able.
A measured and thoughtful documentary from Michael Collins.
as always
The working class wants a fair day's pay for a fair day's work. Beyond that, the working class is quite capable of taking care of themselves. When will politicians realise this?
Ahh but that would meaning stamping all over their private central bank and it's anonymous shareholders lending us money bearing interest, usury, a charge for the use of money, regardless of production or potential for production. To give you what you said , two things must happen, one the issue of money is in the hands of elected government, and not private individuals or corporations, and secondly develop industries here, on 0 or 0.5% 100 year loans, and allow the workers enough tickets,( money ) to buy the products they produce, and any excesses of money must be incinerated upon yearly intelligence and forecasts. No national debt and deficit to pay the private central bank of England and BIS shareholders and as the money is spent into existence bearing no debt. Prosperity, for all, in peace and independence in war for all. Transparent light,, and fair instead of dark, shady and secretively. That is what is stopping you getting it, and that s also how you get it.
These culture forum films are really good, well done guys, l loved all 9 and look forward to more.
who is this?
@@BenQotsa Who is, who?
An excellent analysis. As a disaffected working-class former Trade Unionist/Labour Party activist I can concur with so much of what was conveyed in this insightful film. I am now politically homeless and did something a few weeks ago when I, for the first time ever, deliberately spoiled my ballot paper. It was a long time coming, I'm afraid. There have been many catalysts which have led to this sad situation in my life.
The sheer abuse I received, for instance, from middle-class Lefties in the Movement because I voted for Brexit, shall stay with me now forever.
I want nothing more to do with a Party that tolerates people as those prepared to spout such vile language. Likewise, I want nothing more to do with a Party that bends its knee for bogus causes as espoused by BLM. And I certainly don't want to be associated with a party that now promotes what amounts to sheer racism disguised as anti-racism.
67.7 % of Labour constituencies voted leave.The MPs representing these went against the constituents wishes
I to did the same for the same reasons as you.
Such open and unashamed bigotry from that Labour guy in the opening clip. And Labour wonders why people like me will never ever vote for them again ...
I wholeheartedly agree with what was said here! Every word!!
Thank you too for the education on past Labour leaders!
Living in London and an ex Labour supporter, I hold my head high, my shoulder's back and stand by my own principals. I speak as an equal and in no way as white & privileged!
What an absolute cheek, that any White Working Class individual has ever been privileged, hard work & hard graft!
There is no real equality in Labour's definition of the white working class...
I will never vote Labour ever again in my life, surprise surprise, I'm white & working class, the contempt they show for "the likes of me" is shocking
Excellent documentary. Politics, history and message aside, I think the cinematography is really great. Every shot is like a well composed photograph. I hugely enjoyed it from a visual perspective.
I agree, very well selected the shots-aesthetic!
Yes, I am sure Rome looked pretty while it burned and as for the violin? It was a doozy.
If you look at it from the Globalist-Corporate new-monarchy point of view it has been a decades long knee capping of workers. I have been following the global Freedom movement for the last 4 months. I was inspired by the Canadian Truckers movement. I have gained more civics education in the last 4 months than I ever had before. The obstacles seem overwhelming but on the other side, those who have a working background have a real and PRACTICAL understanding of the world that the “laptop class” doesn’t. If the workers communicate with each other internationally there may be ideas to combat the usurpers of our democracies. WORKERS ARE SMARTER. Eloquence can come in different forms.
Very well said!👍
I hope you are right
Giving a 'like' on a laptop.
I have a feeling we've lowered our expectations and the people we elect have fallen below even that level. Dumbed down Britain. Sad. To MP's of all parties - 'your reputation is built on what you do when you think no one is watching.' The trouble is, we're watching and we are not impressed right now.
They have just got used to following orders from the EU and dont know how to legislate for the benefit of their electorate
Interesting how EVERYTHING has become politicised. You can look at the way people dress and have a pretty good stab at who they vote for, their views on Brexit, The gender dispute, abortion, all this by their clothes and probably the colour of their hair. It's not a hard and fast rule but I bet I get it right more than I get it wrong. How have we got to this?
They know and they don't care.
Just a career and an opportunity to network with future business contacts when they finish their stint in politics.
Orange ?
“We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependents, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant-descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre.”
Enoch Powell 1968
Britain... R.I.P
Immigration should be temporary by default unless someone integrates and earns the right (and show the passion) to be British.
@@mogznwaz Yes it should, and the ethic population should be kept above 90% at all times, the fact that it has long since fallen below that and steadily continuing to fall year in year, is why we see the conflicts within British society today.
@@EmpiricalMind For me, the most dangerous aspects of modern life in this country, is the divide that has been struck between the two tribes of "the intelligent" and the "obviously a moron" sides, who can NEVER see the point of view of each other. Of course, it's the members of the "intelligent" tribe who put people into the "moron" tribe, as noone else is capable of doing so.
The "moron tribe" however, are the only ones who seem to realize the problems of the future, where immigration is leading to a country where rape and killing of women and children is part of ethnic life, but your not allowed to make a fuss about it, in case some minorities get upset.
But the more people shout out at the injustice of such behaviour from certain minorities, the more they are called 'racists' for not being tolerant of minorities.
This country has democracy, where people are allowed to have different views to their fellows (no..not really these days I know) but being different now means your either a 'racist' or a 'woke activist'. If your NOT one or the other, then you are obviously a TRAITOR.
BEWARE!!...Call someone a traitor long enough and often enough and that person is likely to turn on you and bite your hand of friendship or family or neighbourhood or society, as sure as an abused dog is like to bite the hand that beats it, on a seemingly daily basis.
I freely put myself in the "obviously a moron" tribe, as I have different views to my friends and voted different to them in the leave/stay referendum (that has fatally split this country) But THEY don't realise that thinking of someone as being of the 'moron tribe' (unlike them of course) is loosing them a friend who would charge through a metaphoric brick wall and into the fire to save them, if or when the time comes.
Who's in the moron tribe now do YOU think people? Are YOU 'intelligent' or a 'moron'.?
@@sirmalus5153 Well put, personally I wouldn't put myself in either tribe, as you stated, others perception of you based purely on where you stand on any topic, depends on both the topic and the individual, e.g. a very close friend of over 35 years, after the EU referendum called me "a little Englander" we might be very close on many interests, but our views for the future of this country couldn't be more different, he certainly considers himself "intelligent" and me a "moron" maybe we will only find out if he's right when it's too late.
@@mogznwaz Immigration status generally is initially temporary, even for EU citizens migrating to other EU countries: you can't just arrive and claim benefits. The idea of uncontrolled immigration isn't as simple as it sounds.
As a UK national migrating to Germany I had to show that I was committed to the country and could support my family and integrated into the society before I could become German. Now I work with refugees; they are also expected to leave as soon as it is safe to do so, unless they can also prove they have language ability and a job.
Well this white male wont be bothering Labour with my vote again. Keep talking to us like that and see what happens.
Too many white men. In England a country built by white men. A country who’s natives are white men and woman. Tell me milk shake. Would you say the same thing in Kenya, Zimbabwe, China or Iran?
Demoralizing a people is stage 7 on the genocide watch list, it has 10 stages.
@@B123-s4j well it’s not working with me.
@@Dairy917 Good to hear.😀
They don't give a toss about anyone outside of a Uni campus. It shows massively. When it comes to class they really are not showing any.
Don't give a toss whether in or out of a uni campus.
Labour are lost in the religion of woke
It should be called the New Age Party.
How come it’s ok to be racist towards white men? Imagine if I said there are too many black people in the England football team? I don’t actually care how many there are but you get the point, I just want to see the best players whatever colour they are.
Excellent work, moving, on point, so good to see. Ex Guardian reader, ex paid up member of the Labour Party and union activist.
me too...
Me too. Ex-Shop Steward with the TGWU. :-(
Ah think you’re jist patting yersel oan the back coz ye watched ah documentary
@@stephenwalker850 🤣
@@drwhatson ah the grumpy N soul guy! :) Small world, am also a massive fan. LAte of morecamble Pier. Warrington, 100 club etc etc
I despair about the state of the current shambolic Labour party. As this excellent film exposes, Labour have made themselves unelectable. This allows the disgraceful Bullington Club tories to have free reign in Westminister and the Uber-woke SNP to rule Scotland under 'Queen' Sturgeon.
Labour's values and objectives are now set in North London, not North Lancashire. London is NOT Britain. The Labour Party was borne out of looking after THE WHITE WORKING CLASS. Nothing more - for there was nothing more 120 years ago ( or even 70 years ago). Having Wide Open Borders harms one set of people more than any - the Working Class. Yet still modern Labour wants it. Of course, most Immigrants vote Labour...which then means Labour adopts policies and attitudes that those immigrants - current & future - want to see. Labour is the party of guilt-ridden professionals and immigrants, and little else. The only good thing about that is a low probability of Labour being in power again.
Well Said
Immigration is SUCH a curse on societies like ours. Some good, some bad, but on balance...BAD.
By the year 2065 all natives of Briton will be a minority. Today native British are already a minority in their own capital of London. Soon the UK will have an Indian prime minister. Eventually the native British will be stripped of their history, from a Roman outpost to medieval knights, to the enlightenment, to the age of exploration, to the industrial revolution - millennia of history will be liquidated. The country will be run from then on by Indians - forever. Eventually the entire nation will be sold off to India and used as a dumping ground.
I left the UK in 73 for a fresh start and hopefully a better life. Which I did find in Australia after a while. Unfortunately some of the problems I ran away from pursued me all the way to Australia, and I did reflect that maybe I should have stayed in the UK after all. So I took another look at my country of birth. It has degenerated into a far worse place than I could ever have imagined. Then I realised how much better my life is in Australia today. Britain today is slowly but surely turning into Gulag. It cannot ever be "fixed" only endured.
1973 was the year the White Australia Immigration policy was ended and replaced with multiculturalism.
Unfortunately, Australia is mates with Anorexic Ardern. The Antipodes will become like Stalin's Soviet Union before you know it.
It can be fixed. While we still have a vote people need to stop supporting the 'woke' parties.
@Nick Morris Late to the party suits me fine. Hopefully before Australia turns into a penal colony again I will be long gone.
Top quality analysis and reporting. The point about why would anyone vote for a party that thinks they are priviledged, racist, and all the rest is well made and is just one more reason in a long list of why Labour is unelectable. Despising the working class because they dared to better themselves just shows how it is about a hatred of the rich and nothing about helping the people.
The exact same criticism can be leveled at the Tories. The truth is that most people vote based on the false belief that one of the main parties will do something for them. If we actually get to grips with the idea that the goverment is not there for the vast majority of the population. The Tories are totally not there for the majority. The PM is a well documented liar with a history of contempt for anyone poor, or in his opinion a pleb, indeed anyone not of his privleged class. The vast majority of his cabinet are rich, upper class people, with the most patritian views.
I agree that Labour also does not represent the workers in the way it used to at least appear to. However, if we do not have an opposition we do not have a democracy. I would rather elect a different party, every two terms regardless of their levels of inconptetence and irrelevance of their ideologies, than to allow back door totalitarianism. Which is what we currently have.
@@stephenbrookes7268
It would be much better to have a system of proportional representation so that people can vote for the party and policies they want, instead of the democratic sham of having two parties and then voting against the party that you don't want in power.
@@englishpayerofgermantaxes8186 Like many ideologies this looks like an ideal solution. However, it is not without its pitfalls.
There are potentially as many opinions on everything as there are people. Therefore, under PR, there is the potential for there to be 1 political party per voter. Some people simply don't have the will, desire or ability to make decisions. There are in fact quite a large group that do not want to take any responsibility. These people are very susceptible to extremists. Extremists offer simplistic solutions to complex issues and the majority see only simplicity.
PR could and has led to Fascism.
What would be better would be an apolitical party. A party built entirely on the needs of the masses as opposed to their ideology. However, this needs to be one option but without too many options.
@@stephenbrookes7268 I'm kind of responding to the entirety of this particular part of the debate.
Our nation's dysfunctional democracy inevitably alienates large sections of the voting population because the way the first past the post system ensures huge swathes of the electorate are ignored.
As for allowing 'back door totalitarianism'? The parliamentary system has always encouraged its Prime Ministers to act as elected dictators. It's setup to work that way. That Bojo the clown had failed to capitalise on his enviable position to achieve anything of worth shows that his strengths as a campaigner aren't matched by his skills as a politician, as a Prime Minister. That he won a landslide on the last election really didn't surprise me, even though the con-trick he pulled should have been obvious to all. He turned typical Labour voters blue by making unrealistic promises of 'levelling up' whilst appealing to their social conservatism.
No political party can possibly gain power by appealing to one section of society only. Tribal loyalty, in and of itself, is not enough to gain power. Nor is ideology. What's left after that? Self-interest, which is part of what has created the cultural factionalism that appears to exist. The focus becomes 'what are my or my faction's interests', as opposed to 'what is in the best interests of this country'. Political debate becomes a slagging match with neither side interested in doing anything more than appealing to their faction, or at least trying not to alienate them, as opposed to making a persuasive argument: 'chanted slogans' as opposed to reasoned arguments.
That the white working classes lack adequate political representation is not a new problem by any stretch of the imagination, as the video points out. When Major said that the working classes no longer exist, what he sought to do was deny them representation - if you don't exist how can anyone legitimately represent you? Nor is it a problem confined to that group alone. That is a dangerous situation for any democracy to be in. Apathy is not the only reason people don't vote. It strikes me that alienation - I will not vote because I am not represented - and cynicism - they're all a bunch of incompetent hypocrites, or crooks unworthy of office - represent far bigger problems that perpetuate themselves.
Reform will only ever be part of the solution. Keeping the current voting system for parliament, while introducing PR for an elected lower house to keep parliament in check with regards legislation as opposed to governance, could probably work. It would almost certainly end the increasing tendency towards apathy, alienation, and cynicism: it would have the benefits of PR by ensuring everybody is represented at some level, while ensuring undesirable fringe elements never play a significant role in governance.
But the dysfunction within the current system is not the only reason we're currently in this mess. The sad truth is that the country deserved both Brexit and Bojo the Clown. We deserve the factionalism that encourages the ruling government of the day to focus on inciting and exacerbating cultural conflict, as opposed to effectively running the country; it's proven to be an effective campaigning strategy. The truth of any democracy, regardless of how it functions, is that people get the leadership they deserve.
@@matthewwatkins7473 Maybe you meant PR elected upper house. If you propose to do away with the House of Lords, as in the automatic right of some useless toff wastril to be part of the government and cronies of the corrupt party getting a life peerage as pay off for the money laundering, gerrymandering, palm greasing, diverting tax to private sector and other self promoting BS, (Boris will become Lord Scarecrow of Lech or Lord Lothario) then yes let the upper house be elected and PR would be perfect. As the Lords of merit usually form up loose coalitions regardless of their party, on important constitutional issues.
I still think we should have a larger number of mainstream parties limited to say 10 and the last party to hold office misses a turn on the next election. This would effectively end the party loyalty dogma and force the electorate to vote on issues not tradition. The first past the post needs to be based on the first to gain an ansolute majority. 51%.This may require a second ballot. Eg 10 parties - 1 the encumbant. 9 campaign. Non PR voting. If say 3 parties got 20% each the other 6 shared 40%. Now it's a 3 horse race. 2nd ballot 40 35 25 then 2 fight in the 3rd ballot. The worst case scenario is a tie 50 50.we get a hung parliament. So no overal power. Ideal government.
Tory Bliar (sic) and that Peter Mandleson were two of the most sinister things ever to happen in British politics.
Maybe it’s time to look at smaller parties. Even if all they can be are pressure groups. Got to start somewhere. It would be good to vote for something instead of against something.
I can understand the urge people on the right have to begrudgingly vote Tory simply because they're scared of handing power to Labour, but at some point you have to draw a line in the sand. I'm fairly young but I've never voted Tory, always the minority right parties (UKIP, Brexit, probably Reform or Reclaim next), and I wish more people would bite the bullet and do the same. If you keep propping up the Tories as they drift further away from your interests, you'll always be politically homeless and you're just delaying the inevitable.
which small party? the Green Party is as/even more riddled with trans ideology than Labour
@@jayjaydubful Reform/Reclaim, or Libertarian if you're lucky enough to have a candidate in your constituency.
There is no maybe about it.
@@harambae7014 keeping labour out is crucial though, the idea that you can just allow labour in for a term is dreadful, look at the damage done when they were last in power, we are still in their mess today, this is why it is start to vote against them to not make things any worse
I think in multiracial societies, ethnic interests take precedent. I’ve been watching this gradually happen over the last 25 tears - I used to be Labour but stopped voting because it didn’t represent me any more & have never voted Tory. Labour is morphing into the immigrant party; Tory (maybe) the English party, or will in time. It’s a seriously backward step for democracy.
immigrant party - I call Labour the party of the Muslims
Immigrants have come in under all party's. It's part of capitalist demands. Worker's for low paying business that make large amounts of money. The problem is you want to blame other groups for a problem that is home grown.
Pritri Patel
Rishi Sunak
Sajid Javid
Nadhim Zahawi which party ? The "English Party?"
@@FHIPrincePeter very true
They rip open the oldest wounds and make themselves bleed to death from scars long since healed, they make evil-doers out of friend, wife, child, and anyone else near them. - Friedrich Nietzsche
Great quote. But to what was Nietchze referring?
@@helenmcg7607 nietzsche is referring to societies that focus on past misgivings and idealise suffering, his term ressentement. It’s from “on the genealogy of morals”
I used to do a lot of 'contributor' work with BBC Radio Leeds (purged for being a Brexiteer) and was asked to attend a lot of 5-Live debates broadcast from Media City Salford Quays. Some fat, spotty, pasty-faced green-haired sea monster told me that I was "personally responsible for the murder of Jo Cox" because I supported Brexit. My reply: "Sorry Luv, I've a cast-iron alibi. I was in the BBC Radio Leeds studio doing my weekly 'money spot' broadcast when it happened!"
Great stuff. Sadly, too many of us have been there.
Thoughtful and necessary. Excellent!
Labour was created by non-conformist Christians and, latterly, influenced by Catholic social doctrine. Its motivation at the beginning was always CHRISTIAN, not political. Unfortunately, from the beginning, ACTUAL socialists, ie, ideological and doctrinal socialists parasited their way onto the backs of the dignified poor who started the party, and that tension has been a feature of the part from day one. Doctrinal socialists are all about division. The utter contempt of the poor comes from this hatred of Christianity; the poor weren't ideologically pure enough for these vanguardists. Unfortunately, after a century, the parasites have finally wrested full control of the party into their hands.
Good summation, thank you.
An excellent analysis. Subscribed.
My father used to say that the country gets the Government it deserves and I am afraid those words will become true again.
I was saying that in the 1980s. This corruption and lack of choice in our main political parties has been evident for decades.
They all follow the peverse globalist narratives to varying degrees.
Even as an Irish man who has issue with your policy in mu country I feel sad at the rapid decline of old Britain,it seems the left have sold out their people for some pie in the sky future,you fought hard in many wars to keep your freedom,stay true to yourselves.!
Thanks, unfortunately I fear the same will happen in Ireland. The fact is we all now live in a globalist world, dictated by economic imperative, and leaders don't care about the natives of Western countries, or what they want.
I am white, Welsh and grew up in a council estate. I have been poor all my life and I come from a family that has always voted labour. I voted for the Tories in the last election because they are the only party who got us out of the EU and are trying to curb mass immigration. Despite being a terrible PM and absolute wanker I applaud him for not bending to the populist woke ideology and saying plainly what a woman is. I just can't identify with labour anymore because they are no longer a party that represents working class white people like me. All they care about is currying favour with university lecturers and minorities groups and activists. They are as much removed from the real world as the Tories are. I hope one day soon they come back to their senses because I am fed up with the Tories, but I doubt they will.
I hope someone creates a party made exclusively of working class people. Plumbers, brickies, nurses, policemen, cleaners ex services, etc... folks who speak plainly like me who are invested in the real world because they live in it. NO TEACHERS though. They are very much apart of this anti-white, anti-british, white-privilage fascist wave that's going about that wants to erase our history and culture.
If anyone wants to form a party like this then let me know, I will happily represent my constituency 👍
Are police officers really one of the working-class, though? They do not appear to be right now.
Celticowl. One year on I find this and agree wholeheartedly. As a Gog who’s lived overseas for a number of years , I despair every time I return to the U.K. at what’s been allowed to happen. Last year I visited my mother near Ruthin and took her to Wrexham where we have relatives. The place and people had changed beyond all recognition under Drakeford. Rhyl is the same. All the parties political class are used goods and devoid of any vision , leadership or patriotism. They are in thrall to some utopian dream like the Coca Cola advert from the 70’s ( I’d like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony). Even Plaid don’t even speak for the Welsh anymore and kow tow to the latest fads. Even to the point of quietly supporting the dropping of Welsh as a requirement for public sector jobs as it’s “discriminatory” to the “ New Welsh “ 🤔. It’s beyond redemption I fear . Take care.
Reform party, For Britain Movement with Anne Marie Waters, Britain First, Patriotic Alternative, English Democrats, British Democrats, British National Party, UKIP, the National Front. These are your alternatives to the current crop of left wing champagne socialist/liberals 🍾. Be proud, Be British. And hold your head up high.
There are too many alternatives , no one is aware of what they stand for, and relying on white voters won't get anyone anywhere. They need to get together, as with first past the post they can only be pressure groups.
@@nuttall47 stream line it For Britain Movement with Anne Marie Waters and Reform party. I'm pretty sure that cooperation would be organic...
incredible. everything I feel and think; and if I had the time might have put together - but you've done a sterling job here. best piece of journalism I've seen in a long time.
This should be on the BBC etc. Excellent documentary/summation of current British politics
The BBC didn't want it...they don't know the truth....shame on them
The BBC are a huge part of the treasonous problem.
...too many white men in Britain..welcome to the 21st Century
The standard of politicians today is diabolical.
As someone who’s working class, I’ll NEVER waste my vote on the current Conservative,Labour or Lib Dem parties. The only political party that would have got my vote at the last general election was UKIP, and look what a disaster that turned out to be. Pulling out all of their candidates where the Conservatives candidates were standing so as to stop the Labour Party getting into office. There is no political party that represents me now, therefore, I will not be voting ever again if this is the best our “democracy” has to offer.
We need to change our political system. Representative democracy isn’t representing anyone anymore.
If you spoil your vote it is at least counted, and your saying not that there's no point in voting but that there's no one worth voting for.
It was the Brexit Party (Now ReformUK). Ukip lost the vast majority of its support base since Nigel Farrage left the party.
The downfall started with Tony Blair and has only got worse. People only voted for brexit as a chance for change. If you've already got nothing do you vote for the same or a chance for something differant. Then for Labour to tell us we were wrong and they'll put us back in was the last nail in the coffin for them in the northern towns.
Kinnock,more like.
This kind of balance used to be a central principle of the BBC. Now it's all woke propaganda rather than discernible political bias.
Michael Collins understands the white working class very well and should be given more opportunities to express himself
Labour's become the party of suits, not boots.
That was an excellent documentary. Just sums up the whole lot Torries included.
My father was born in London in the East End in 1918. I arrived from America in 1975 - you could say it was at the fag-end of Britain’s greatness. But the greatness was still there - at least to me and I loved it - loved it. Fast forward to 2016 and as a Brexit supporter I hadn’t a friend left amongst the herbivores, and I decided to leave for Trumpland. I am so sad about this - but I fear I pine for a Britain that is no longer there. Still, I have faith in you guys, and I love you and miss you.
Thanks but it too late for the UK!
You speak from a country that want to arm school teachers, to try and prevent mass killing of school children, and you think Britain is done?
I can't help thinking if politicians were given lower salaries and expenses, banned from any second jobs, banned from owning any kind of shares and only allowed three terms as an MP in their life, the quality of candidates would increase dramatically as it would remove the vast number who got into it for the plentiful life-long gravy train it currently represents, and more real people of principle who want to serve their country and community might stand because they knew they wouldn't have to work with the gravy train lot.
You are right Chris. Half of the politicians are/or were, solicitors or barristers. It should not be allowed. These people are greed merchants and are bleeding us into the ground financially.
I worked with guy in the civil service, he loved Labour and yes he was muslim, his dad was a millionaire which resulted in this guy getting a rent free flat in a swanky part of Cambridge, daddies Platinum Amex and having no fear of unemployment. His politics were 6th form school boy at best, when you engaged with him invariably he would lose, which must mean (coming from him) I was racist. He would try and shout down anyone turn and walk away, he was truly vile. Any way he was moved to another dept and sadly we could still hear him, a dept head came over and said 'doesnt that pr1ck ever shut up'. He was truly hated, a typical champagne socialist
Just like the sort I always encounter 😂
Hit the nail on the head, good to see Morley my birthplace and my old school in Batley featuring.
Really brings it home how these places have been changed largely by immigration. Morley still a bit like Rourke's Drift, fighting a losing battle surrounded by Batley, Dewsbury, Holbeck, Beeston multi cultural shitholes one and all.
When I passed the 11 plus and went to Batley Grammar in 1977 there were two Asians in the whole year, now it seems they get to call the shots and have teachers living in hiding for disrespecting their 'sky fairy'. Sad.
Truly great documentary and wonderful history piece. I am saying this as a working class white male who has never voted Labour and going by the current state of the party probably never will.
The late John Smith leader of Labour from 1992 to 1994 would have been the only man of the Red I would have whole heartedly given my vote to. I honestly think he could have achieved great things had he not passed away before he had the chance to prove it
Great Video of the Labour movement throughout the west.
From Perth Australia.
Very comprehensive, well written, visually interesting and fair.
Excellent video.
I agree. However, the core problem is those socialist pension debts and neither the Tories or Labour can discuss it.
Diane for leader. That will solve Labour.
I miss the days when we had documentaries like this on TV, this was really well put together with a lot of interesting information about the way the left in this country has gone from a worthy ideal to the degenerate champagne socialism of today. Really high quality output from NCF as usual.
Beautifully photographed, balanced delivery and a presentation to make Left and Right stop for a moment an think - an accurate critique without cynical criticism. How refreshing to see a political discussion presented so artfully! Much appreciated.
I'm sick of hearing that word Diversity like it's all that well and I'm white working class and a former Marine and I'm damned proud of it! Say it proud say loud I'm White and I'm proud! Say it loud say it proud I'm White and I'm proud! I'm not a Nazi nor a Commie I'm saying it loud I'm White and I'm proud!
Hands up those who want diversity???
I'll never return to Labour as they are no longer representative of myself, where I live or my class status.
I'm proud to be a working class white male who has worked hard to rise from a lowly apprentice into a professional job.
Unfortunately I voted Conservative for the first time ever in the last GE and I'll never do it again.
I've now got nobody to vote for so I'm just going to sit on the sidelines and watch this all unravel.
It would be good to have a more sensible centrist party. The string of leaders the conservatives have chosen has been lackluster, and Labour has fallen to the loony left, so there is currently not much to choose from.
Labour party cut the working class adrift during Neil kinnock time
My days of voting Labour have gone, with Starmer my disenfranchisement is complete. Current Labour no longer represents me, a working class son of a working class father. I'm not middle class or trans enough
As a Labour party card holder for 50 years, now given up, your views are mine also.
Fantastistic thoughtful commentary on the history of the Labour Party, its founding fathers, its Giants and its current pitiful MPs, Leadership and political focus. The Labour Partys founders would not recognise the current Labour Party nor its current leadership. They are professional salaried impostors that have hijacked a political working class tradition for their own egoistic and financial gain. The British White Working Class need to reclaim their cultural inheritance from the middle class, multucultural impostors who have culturally appropriated their cultural political tradition. There were no middle class characters, trans activists, Islamic activists, radical feminists, or any other activists in EP Thomsons "Making of the English Working Class". Learn your history, respect your culture, preserve your traditions, and be prepared to do whatever you need to do to preserve them against those that seek destroy them.
Great video, this would be on BBC primetime if the BBC was worth a damn.
Indeed. Instead we've got millionaire SirHenry Lenny on the BBC later this week bemoaning about Britain - again.
@@rjw4762 Yup, lectured by a millionaire knight of the realm about how few opportunities are offered to ethnic minorities.
@@johnneville403 you'd think that when the sword taps the shoulder, the chip would fall off it?
@@HordrissTheConfuser It definitely appears not! Lenny Henry is oppressed, apparently.
Perhaps local election voting cards should have a new tick box at the bottom labelled "I only chose the candidate I ticked above because the rest of them are even worse" - and if 25% of the electorate tick it, regardless of their choices above, the election is repeated in a month's time with none of the original candidates allowed to stand.
My old uni's guild of students had a Re-Open Nominations option. I think I must have voted for R.O.N. a few times.
A very nicely put together film and good to see you in Morley for parts of it. I've often felt the big difference between Labour and Tories is that the latter know who their audience are. As others have said Labour abandoned their traditional WWC voters decades ago. The quote from Barnett (a historian well worth studying for anyone interested in just how badly the UK screwed it up after WW2) hinted at a darker truth; namely that the working class needed to be kept relatively poor and needy otherwise they'd vote Tory. Thatcher realised this and exploited it mercilessly. I think Blair realised it too but its hard to suggest that modern Labour Party has any use for the working class except as the target for their derision. This why they're still in opposition despite over 10 years of the worst government in living memory (if not ever!)
I agree with everything you've documented except your last sentence; the worst government and worst thing to happen to this country was Blair.
You need to produce things in your own country to make use of a working clas, and to do that you have to reform the finance and economic system, as a prerequisite, and that means ripping the issue of money from private individuals and corporations, ( he shareholders in the private central bank of England, and the elected government issuing the money as they did with the Bradbury for the first world war, pound which bore no interest. Usury the charge for use of money , regardless of production, or potential of production. You fix the money problem, and you can then have your elected government make a development bank, giving 100 year loans at 0 or 0.5% interest, to build industry agriculture business and infrastructure, and the training necessary, other than that you, keep tabs yearly on what's being produced, and you issue the correct amount of tickets ino the society to purchase the products the society has produced. Enough tickets and no more to consume the wealth. Incinerate the rest based on intelligence and forecasting. Self sustaining society, people prosper, work force filled, happy workforce, skills and labour and products and money all remain in your own country, and you are not paying cost of travel and labour on all these imports. Quality goes up, and price comes down. Tariff walls. And full employments. Prosperous in peace and independent in war. How do we know it. Ben Franklin the printer and founding father of USA told us about scrip money in the colonies and how it was possible the colonies were living better than the mother country. Tickets section. he econominc side is from Henry Charles Carey the economist, who Abe Lincoln followed as President, and there was a before and after Abe Lincoln, and that is where America became the most powerful and wealthy country on earth following that industry development and protective tarrif walls theory of Henry Charles Carey. Bank of North Dakota works on a similar principle as a development bank. The working classes would soon be doing well if these steps were introduced. But as I have well read, from Henry St John (Lord Bolingsbroke ) who worked in the treasury, in his time, who told, in his writings, these politicians since the creation of the Bank of England, see their main duty, on behalf of their bosses in the bankers bank, and the Governments Government as Gladstone called it, , to keep the country in sufficient debt to line the pockets of these today legally anonymous shareholders.
Their main duty. My point is this is the business that keeps London rich and the rest of us pensioners feeding off scraps. As if this wretched foreign country of London, was more important than the entire British population and nation, I believe that happens through two methods. Concealment through PPE and similar educative programmes, (that is, Oxford University degrees in philosophy, politics and economics (PPE), where alternatives models more successful are censored likely from the education of students, ) Also more than likely the funding or donations, for such programmes come from the interested parties who sit behind the bank and continue to profi via a lack of meddling from heir debt based interest scam. ,If that be so, we have a self fulfilling prophecy, so new politicians are ignorant of possibilities, that would make the nation wealthy outside of London, and as a whole, and secondly a certain amount of political families, likely smaller today than it was previously was , are and were probably direct private shareholders within their families. this would certainly have been he case at the turn of the last century. Anyway there is what needs to be done for masses to prosper and live good lives, in a safe and secure decent society I believe, at least as far as the economics and finance. If you gave it all a slighly digital and modern tweak, you'd end up with the Japanese model for production more or less, but the good and decent money , and elected governments sovereign power to issue it ,is the first and most important or you can do nothing for workers and building wealth and prosperity for the people
Peter and team you continue to surpass yourselves, this was another excellent film. Thank you.
Just looking at the clip of Herbert Morrison talking over film of walking along the street he grew up on. My golly, those houses are now far beyond the means of most people, only to be inhabited by the well off.
Have you considered adding a bibliography under each of the Heresies documentaries for people who wish to read further on the issues considered?
Please do add a bibliography.
I look back at my 11+ exam in 1966 that sent me from a factory fodder junior school into a new Catholic Boys Grammar School in Birmingham where we were encouraged to look beyond our environment. Most of the kids were of irish descent plus a handful of Polish and English Catholics like me.
Most went on to professions, academia, arts, acting, science. I doubt that would have happened had I gone to my local Secondary, now Comp.
Labour took down that ladder and the statistics show that the working class proportion of university entrants is lower now than before.
Labour kept us in our place !
Thank you NCF. This documentary is a highly professional piece of work in every respect. Very well presented, balanced in terms of perspectives and technically excellent! This is as good or better in terms of production than anything the BBC could produce! Despite the sad story of our downward decline in the UK, it had me gripped until the end.
Two words;
Thank You.
To these labour supporters today a working class person is a doctor earning £100K for a 3 day week.
Its time the idigenous peoples of the uk and europe got the rights so eagerly touted for other indigenous folk in other places. My grandad was a wigan coal miner, he was very active in starting the union. In his later years He no longer supported labour and their elitist marxist intelectuals who usurped the movement. He said , we fought real oppression, kids down the mines and terrible safety, conditions and wages. This crowd does nothing for the real working man.
Unfortunately, the Tories are also at war with the white working class. The working class now have no friends among the main parties.
What is the agenda?
@@endangerdenglish Ask Klaus Shwarbe.
New Labour got a taste of how it feels to have wealth and power and they liked it
Superb piece of work.
I get so irritated when people call the current crop of Labour MP's 'Socialists' - they are not, I'm from Tyneside and I'll always vote Socialist - but I'll not vote Labour - not any more.
Why socialist though you should keep what you earn and not pay for anyone else above the bare minimum to keep the basics functions working bins roads etc.
Excellent summary - but for me, as a Labour Member in the early '80s it was the 1983 General Election that was the real turning point in Labour activists vitriolic abandoning of the Working Class. I could not believe how bitter and hateful they became when the WC approved Thatcher more than Foot.. They could not understand it and from that day on the WC became traitors and "the enemy" to be fought. The Labour lexicon turned the "Working Class" into "Working People" (which embraced the middle and upper-middle affluent Labour voters) and the left's sentimental dreams of workers in overalls calling each other "comrade" disappeared.
That is wrong. The slow march through the institutions began in the 1960's. Research and see.
If I turn on the TV in the UK now it appears as if I now live in an African country. If a white man is featured in an advert is usually as someone to mock.
I've noticed that too
Really excellent analysis of Labour's predicament. The lack of an effective opposition is hurting British politics...
It's always been about class; not race; not religion but a tussle between the haves and have-nots. Those living in their ivory towers, surrounded by opulence and wealth feel it's okay to look down on those who put them there. Today, we have millionaires and billionaires who cry in their mansions about how 'they' are the victims.
@@jandavidson7093 Jug-ears has perfected the art of victimhood.
Labour do not represent the working class and haven't for some years, alas people still see them as "labour, the working mans party". I am not black, Iam not a woman, I am not gay, exactly why would i vote for labour
Don't know why traditional "left" parties seem unable - or unwilling - to say anything really significant to the workers of our time, except insisting on general "humanitarian" themes that have little direct relationship with the workers' rights and needs. Perhaps they simply have nothing to say, and prefer to speak about something else
"Perhaps they simply have nothing to say, and prefer to speak about something else"
Look how passionate they get about climate change and racism though...they more than something to "say" on those policy areas, its more like something to 'scream'.