Can we please take in consideration that Elain is a Seer and she has seen everything that happens to her before, that is why she is so weird around Lucien, and maybe (hear me out) Azriel’s shadows in some way covers his future, and maybe, everytime that she is with him, she stops seeing the future at all, which gives her peace, that is why she is so comfortable around him and also so interested, because she has seen all but not him (think about Alice and Jacob kind of situation in Twilight).
Well, it's pretty canon that Rhys and Ruhn/Bryce are related because Queen Theia had two daughters, Helena (ancestor of Bryce and Ruhn) who got stuck in Bryce's world and Silene (ancestor of Rhys), who managed to scape and got back to Prythian, killed the daglan's/asteri's beasts and married the first ever high lord of the night court. So the resemblance is because they're anciently related. Theia gave part of the trove to her daughters and also part of her power, which makes both Rhys and Bryce/Runh starborn, hence why the trove is in both worlds and why the dusk court/the prison lays within Rhys' jurisdiction by blood. Maybe we'll learn more about why Nesta was the one to wield the trove, the reason behind the 8 pointed star and also why Feyre glows like starlight. Maybe they are anciently related too, as the bone carver said in acowar ''An ancient fae warrior trapped koschei in the lake, her bloodline still runs in a human line''.
LOVE the idea of a bookended Beauty and the Beast story. Since originally SJM had planned for Lucien and Nesta to be mates and Feyre drew fire on her dresser drawer it makes sense that Elain would end up in the Spring court with the flowers on her drawer. My theory is that regardless of who Elain ends up with (whether it's Lucien or Tamlin) she will end up in the Spring court.
Okay, random thought, but what if Tamlin was not only saving/helping feyre in ACOWAR, but also saving BRIAR (the human she saved, whose name also means "rose")? At first I thought their may have been a connection for Tamlin later with her? I know there has been talk about her becoming part of the 13 witches...but. I thought giving details about the human saved from hybern (especially since it was a HUGE risk to add/carry ANOTHER person on that escape plan...) would come back/be important in some way in the future.
@@leellenlewis7582 oooooo that would be a super cool twist I hadn’t even considered!! Tbh I just chalked him saving her up to Tamlin doing it for Feyre and no other reason, but leave it to SJM to make us think that when it really had a completely different meaning 😂
Hey guys new listener and really loving the POD have listened to a lot of books pods and I love what yous are talking about the only thing is Melissa can be extremely over powering and really doesn’t give Ellie any chance to talk out her opinions . As a listener it becomes quite annoying. Hope Melissa learns to let Ellie speak more without over powering her.
I think Tamlin will die a martyr eventually throughout the series and as it goes for Lucien and Elaine, I also believe he has lived a very hard life with little to no reward. Why not bless him with the privilege of having a mating bond. And as it goes for Crecent City, take into consideration that if Miriam and Dracan can be mates then so can Bryce and Hunt. Also, does anyone not see the connection between Lydia and Aelin ? (If that's how the name is spelt).
I could see Tamlin dying a martyr for sure! Maybe that’s his “redemption” in the end. 🤷🏼♀️ Lucien has been through so much, and it would be cool to see him happy, but it would also make for a really great villain arc IMO. Plus, if we want him to be happy, Elain isn’t it (even though she’s his mate) because she can’t even stand being around him. I do like Hunt and Bryce together, I don’t have an issue with them being mates, I just didn’t like how anticlimactic their “bond” was. Like they just decided they were mates before even their scents changing or anything like that? It wasn’t for me personally, but there are lots of people who liked it, which is great! Have you finished HOFAS? If you have, it talks about Lidia and her connections at the end!
Actual flipping goosbumps at the full circle moment on Beauty and The Beast retelling again with Lucien faking the mating bond to cover for Tam Tam. Also I feel soooo bad for him because i actually really did love him in ACOTAR and he literally just made a few mistakes in the name of "love" - like we all have.
Ok so I was originally like whut No! But the whole beauty x beast coming full circle considering the first book I can get behind that because it would be kinda cool way to do that. Just to add that for me ACOTAR was more of a Eros x Psyche retelling than beauty x beast but either or both can fit it probably so yeah 🤷♀️😊
I really feel like everyone glosses over the fact Tamlin is in a domestic violence situation with Feyre - he literally exploded the paint brushes and paint to the point it could have seriously injured or killed her then locked her in a house when he knows she’s claustrophobic which is literally false imprisonment and emotionally abusive?! He is a domestic abuser. And before we untangle his trauma and give him his happy ending there needs to be WAY more work with him processing how wrong that was and preventing those kinds of behaviors in the future. Right, am I crazy? I feel like no one talks about this but it’s very obvious.
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What do Ruhn's mom was 'broken' while in the Avallen court? They're traditions of owning females is much stronger than any other court/city we've encountered and she would have been there for potentially hundreds of years before marrying the Autumn King. Doesn't solve the wing issue but she could also potentially be able to hide her wings as Rhys did for so long 🤷🏻♀️
i would love that - Tamlin needs a happy ending - i really loved Tamlin and felt he didn't deserve the way Fayre has treated him!!! - I hope he finds happiness and i would love to see Fayre in some way have regrets - i really don't like her at all.
Can we please take in consideration that Elain is a Seer and she has seen everything that happens to her before, that is why she is so weird around Lucien, and maybe (hear me out) Azriel’s shadows in some way covers his future, and maybe, everytime that she is with him, she stops seeing the future at all, which gives her peace, that is why she is so comfortable around him and also so interested, because she has seen all but not him (think about Alice and Jacob kind of situation in Twilight).
OOOOO I LOVE THIS THEORY
Oooooh this is a good one actually 😁😎💛💛💁♀️
The scene with Mor riding her horse at her secret estate and being watched, has to mean something. It’s so random.
@@kimberlygallant2344 I’ll bet it comes back up in a future book. Otherwise it was so random and pointless 😂
I just love how everybody is theorizing now about the upcoming ACOTAR book! I just love this about fantasy!!
That’s how we feel too! It’s so fun!
Okay I have to say that intro at the beginning made me hit the sub button instantly!! Great pod.
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it 🤍
Lucien could speak to Elain mind to mind through their mating bond in ACOWAR. There is no way he was covering for Tamlin
Elain and Lucien are endgame 100% and I cannot wait for their beautiful love story! ☺
In Az's chapter of ACOSF, he even talked about smelling their mating bong (Elaine & Lucian)...so I agree, it couldn't be a cover up for Tamlin.
Well, it's pretty canon that Rhys and Ruhn/Bryce are related because Queen Theia had two daughters, Helena (ancestor of Bryce and Ruhn) who got stuck in Bryce's world and Silene (ancestor of Rhys), who managed to scape and got back to Prythian, killed the daglan's/asteri's beasts and married the first ever high lord of the night court. So the resemblance is because they're anciently related. Theia gave part of the trove to her daughters and also part of her power, which makes both Rhys and Bryce/Runh starborn, hence why the trove is in both worlds and why the dusk court/the prison lays within Rhys' jurisdiction by blood.
Maybe we'll learn more about why Nesta was the one to wield the trove, the reason behind the 8 pointed star and also why Feyre glows like starlight. Maybe they are anciently related too, as the bone carver said in acowar ''An ancient fae warrior trapped koschei in the lake, her bloodline still runs in a human line''.
Ooooh this is gooood
They cut off Rhys mom's and sisters wings tho. This is why Ruhns mom doesn't have wings?
LOVE the idea of a bookended Beauty and the Beast story. Since originally SJM had planned for Lucien and Nesta to be mates and Feyre drew fire on her dresser drawer it makes sense that Elain would end up in the Spring court with the flowers on her drawer.
My theory is that regardless of who Elain ends up with (whether it's Lucien or Tamlin) she will end up in the Spring court.
@@fischergould I totally agree!! Elain belongs in Spring 🌸
Okay, random thought, but what if Tamlin was not only saving/helping feyre in ACOWAR, but also saving BRIAR (the human she saved, whose name also means "rose")? At first I thought their may have been a connection for Tamlin later with her? I know there has been talk about her becoming part of the 13 witches...but. I thought giving details about the human saved from hybern (especially since it was a HUGE risk to add/carry ANOTHER person on that escape plan...) would come back/be important in some way in the future.
@@leellenlewis7582 oooooo that would be a super cool twist I hadn’t even considered!! Tbh I just chalked him saving her up to Tamlin doing it for Feyre and no other reason, but leave it to SJM to make us think that when it really had a completely different meaning 😂
Hey guys new listener and really loving the POD have listened to a lot of books pods and I love what yous are talking about the only thing is Melissa can be extremely over powering and really doesn’t give Ellie any chance to talk out her opinions . As a listener it becomes quite annoying. Hope Melissa learns to let Ellie speak more without over powering her.
I think Tamlin will die a martyr eventually throughout the series and as it goes for Lucien and Elaine, I also believe he has lived a very hard life with little to no reward. Why not bless him with the privilege of having a mating bond. And as it goes for Crecent City, take into consideration that if Miriam and Dracan can be mates then so can Bryce and Hunt. Also, does anyone not see the connection between Lydia and Aelin ? (If that's how the name is spelt).
I could see Tamlin dying a martyr for sure! Maybe that’s his “redemption” in the end. 🤷🏼♀️
Lucien has been through so much, and it would be cool to see him happy, but it would also make for a really great villain arc IMO. Plus, if we want him to be happy, Elain isn’t it (even though she’s his mate) because she can’t even stand being around him.
I do like Hunt and Bryce together, I don’t have an issue with them being mates, I just didn’t like how anticlimactic their “bond” was. Like they just decided they were mates before even their scents changing or anything like that? It wasn’t for me personally, but there are lots of people who liked it, which is great!
Have you finished HOFAS? If you have, it talks about Lidia and her connections at the end!
I kinda see Tamlin becoming a world walker or maybe even a human...
Actual flipping goosbumps at the full circle moment on Beauty and The Beast retelling again with Lucien faking the mating bond to cover for Tam Tam. Also I feel soooo bad for him because i actually really did love him in ACOTAR and he literally just made a few mistakes in the name of "love" - like we all have.
I am hoping that we will see more Tamlin in the upcoming book and we will get to hear the story from him and not Feyre...
i do not want elaine to end up with tamlin😭😭😭😭😭
Ok so I was originally like whut No! But the whole beauty x beast coming full circle considering the first book I can get behind that because it would be kinda cool way to do that.
Just to add that for me ACOTAR was more of a Eros x Psyche retelling than beauty x beast but either or both can fit it probably so yeah 🤷♀️😊
I really feel like everyone glosses over the fact Tamlin is in a domestic violence situation with Feyre - he literally exploded the paint brushes and paint to the point it could have seriously injured or killed her then locked her in a house when he knows she’s claustrophobic which is literally false imprisonment and emotionally abusive?! He is a domestic abuser. And before we untangle his trauma and give him his happy ending there needs to be WAY more work with him processing how wrong that was and preventing those kinds of behaviors in the future. Right, am I crazy? I feel like no one talks about this but it’s very obvious.
Can we also acknowledge we don’t actually know anything about Tamlin.
Please give spoiler warnings for those of us who have not read Crescent city or have not finished TOG
i hope you guys cover thethrone of glass books with each video tackling books 1 to 7
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Lucien covered for Tamlin about the mating bond…AND THATS WHY TAM IS IN BEAST FORM AND FUCKIN FERAL??????!
What do Ruhn's mom was 'broken' while in the Avallen court? They're traditions of owning females is much stronger than any other court/city we've encountered and she would have been there for potentially hundreds of years before marrying the Autumn King. Doesn't solve the wing issue but she could also potentially be able to hide her wings as Rhys did for so long 🤷🏻♀️
The beauty and the beast theory!!!!!! big brain
also hope we do not get a novella
THANK YOU god I never understood the hate for tamlin
i would love that - Tamlin needs a happy ending - i really loved Tamlin and felt he didn't deserve the way Fayre has treated him!!! - I hope he finds happiness and i would love to see Fayre in some way have regrets - i really don't like her at all.