I don't really mind loose draw all that much. Actually I'll take it over a tight draw any day. With loose draw, you have the option to control it yourself unlike tight draw.
"I want to work for the cigar" Perfect description of my exact opposite. I don't think I've ever experienced a Davidoff with a "loose" or "open" draw. Which leads me to think that you might be much more used to (what I consider) the intolerably tight draw of many Cubans. It is funny though how you describe being so angry at a loose draw. That's my exact feeling around tight draws. Makes the cigar tedious, and tends to alter the flavors in a negative way. 🤷♂️
Usman is used to tight and plugged Cubans. That's why the NW went bitter because he is drawing too hard, hence the hot fast burning cigar. In my humble opinion Cubans are over rated. Out of a box of 25 Epi No 2's aged for 4 years in their box in a humidor 8 were plugged/un smokable. In almost 30 years of smoking cigars I can probably count on one hand how many plugged NW I have smoked. I love certain Cubans but lean towards NW as they tend to be more reliable when it comes to their draw and flavour profile. Hay and grass gets a bit boring sometimes.
@@cigarinspector2023 Dude if there's one emotion on display in this video its either 'extreme annoyance' or very much borderline anger! But either way, I've been watching your vids for a while! Really enjoy the way you structure your videos and the viewcounts prove many others feel the same way. Keep up the great work!
Agreed. I smoke cigars to relax, not "work" for them. Davidoffs have to be puffed slowly and softy. Cubans need hard, long, double puffs. It's like making love versus rough sex lol.
Great review and great production. I couldn't agree more regarding a loose draw on a cigar. I smoked a Trinidad Topes (my first Topes) on Sunday and was it was like a wind tunnell. Terrible experience and a waste of money. Fortunately, it was followed by an Esmerelda later that night which was immaculate👌. PS: I like the handshake analogy too. Hopefully Covid isn't about to herald the end to the humble handshake!
Southern Draw sticks have a wide open draw but they don’t burn any hotter or faster than normal. I appreciate any draw other than almost to completely plugged. Thanks for the content
If you want a Behike at 30 punds, get san cristobal del habana 20th anniversary edition. it's and exclusive release for la casa del habano stores and a limited edition, but it's the best cigar I've ever smoked, and I smoke cigars since I was 17. I would buy 10 boxes of those if I had enough storage in my humidor
Great review Usman, 2 real heavy weights. I love Davidoff's but I tend to always go for the regular production cigars, not special releases (even though the Royal is a RR). They smoke well and the draw is fine..... for me. I like smaller ring gauges and figurado's. But I get what you mean. I had cigar recently which felt like sucking air through a straw, the moment I started I wanted it to end. The Behike looks and sounds like the real deal. A shame as its so freakin expensive and now I feel the need to try one. But in some ways its like drinking wine, how much better is a £30 red compared to a £190 red? Its personal preference. Is the Behike better than a Siglo vi? Is the extra cost justified? Having never smoked the latter I wouldn't know. Was it in your book? Good honest review, nice work.
We don't get a lot of chance at good Cubans here in the states but everyone I know that maintains Cubans here as the humidity around 65 where new world is around 70/72. Assuming the davidoff might be stored closer to 65 it might be a bit dry compared to the Cuban. Maybe try running a new world humidor at 72. Let them rest a while and see if that makes a difference for you.
great reviews as always. personally I love cigars with an open draw (they are hot if you draw to aggressively), i view tough draws like Mc Donald's milk shake, don't make me work for my pleasure lol but love your handshake analogy too. great work man.
180 Pounds for the Behike 85 Pounds for The Davidoff Price of 2 cigars one could buy you a box of 25 RASS or Partagas D4 and you get a lot more enjoyment :)
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I agree on the draw. I need some resistance as well. I get very annoyed by loose draws. No more Davidoffs in the next videos. Some other new world cigars out there 1/5 the price of the Davidoff that are 10x better.
What separates good cigars from bad ones for me is the draw and i hate a tight draw.... absolute killer when it comes to enjoyment. Padron and davidoff both have a loose draw. Which is one of the reason they command such high prices. They Produce amazing amount of smoke which is smooth and thick. Padron and Davidoff have the absolute perfect draw. Never had a bad one from both companies.
Agreed on loosely wrapped cigars! They cannot burn correctly so one of those cannot be an excellent cigar. If a cigar stays lit it can hardly be too tight. Kind of like an espresso that does not extract correctly- it cannot taste good even if the coffee is great. The draw is everything!
I really enjoy your videos and how you take the time to answer almost all of your comments. Where is the best reliable online source to buy a DuPont lighter?
I do remember Monte Christo Churchill cigars from the beginning of the 2000th. It was a pain in the ass to smoke this shit. MUCH to tight and much to strong wrapped. The perfect draw is somewhere between loose and tight.....
Thanks for the review! With the recent price hike, you should make a video comparing BHK Flavor profile vs other Cohiba sticks flavor profiles (aged or not) and compare for best bang/buck ratio.
I have had all three Behikes sizes and my favorite is the 54. I have not had that Davidoff Royal, but I have smoked a bunch of the Solomon versions. Two of my all time favorites. I guess I will save my money and not get the Royal Robusto. lol.
The royal release is not at all a “spicy cigar”. Must have been stored incorrectly. I have 50 of them. It should be coco forward, with a hint of nutmeg and toasted almonds. First reviewer of this stick I ever heard accuse it of being spicy. LOL.
All the royal robusto I have smoked have been terrible. Ive spoken to several other people that have smoked them and they expressed a similar experience. Having said that, the Royal Salamones is an incredible cigar. Not sure whats going on between the two as the blend should be the same but the Royal Release Robusto is a dud cigar in my books.
How was the davidoff stored? I bet it's RH was too low. I've never felt like my davidoffs have a ridiculously loose draw, mainly because I store them at higher RH than my cubans.
Have you tried pinching the cigar to tighten the draw? I do this with loose draws and tunneling and it helps. Doesn’t make it perfect but it makes it tolerable.
So what are his feelings on a loose draw? I couldn’t tell…. 😂 No but i love me some Behikes. They are pretty much my sole smoke these days. Worth the extra money over a typical premium cigar.
@@cryptolord9826 ye well it happens. it happened to me with new world cigars. I also got a davidoff with a really bad burn. But generally I do agree with Usman! PS: I love Davidoff cigars too!!
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Strong double puffs on a loose cigar is why it’s getting hot. A loose cigar sitting in an ashtray does not get hotter than a snug one. It’s how you smoke it. Just slow down.
But that's a construction issue then. I have to smoke a long filler cigar the same way I need to smoke a short filler, which isn't ideal. As much as we complain about tight drawing cigars and ones that are plugged, a loose drawing cigar is similarly poor when it comes to contruction. It's the same thing but on the opposite side of the spectrum.
Whenever I do a proper review I generally need to have smoked at least 3 cigars before producing the video. Although this isn’t always possible I strive to do this and will make people aware if I haven’t. Also all cigar reviews are inherently biased. Thank you for watching.
Btw, have you considered doing reviews on other than Cuban cigars? Would be interested on hearing your opinion on ie. Oliva V double robusto, which happens to be one of my favourites (not a huge surprise there). I did notice you did a stream about Cuban vs new world cigars a while back, but... well, I'm not going to sit here for ~2,5hrs just to see if you already addressed the matter. Sorry.
Ill take a high end padron over a davidoff any day infact im smoking a cheapy piedra robusto for 3 bucks and i bet its better flavor wise....the behikes no thanks for that amount ill buy 5 boxes of cohiba robustos instead lol
To clarify, the Davidoff didn't have an open draw it had an empty draw. IT was basically a wind tunnel and cigars such as those are flawed in how they were produced. There's a balance between a having a good draw versus a difficult draw and I prefer something a little on the firmer side. Having said that Almost every other Davidoff cigar I have smoked has exactly the kind of draw that I enjoy.
I'll probably never smoke a Behike. I'm pretty sure I'll be missing something, but perhaps not something worth an extra 150£. I'll just have to seek comfort in my Siglo's and live vicariously though you. On a side note: I think maybe you should ask yourself; what can be said about this cigar that is interesting and not repetitive? You don't have to make a script, but rather think about it beforehand, maybe do some light research and jot a few bullet points down on a piece of paper that you can refer to when you sense that you're getting stuck talking about the draw.
Dude you can’t make honest opinion be because you favor Cuban cigars over domestic cigars always and when you’re talking about them you get all worked up that’s how I know you love Cuban cigars. Note if you would’ve started out smoking domestic cigars first then you might have a different opinion now.
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I don't really mind loose draw all that much. Actually I'll take it over a tight draw any day. With loose draw, you have the option to control it yourself unlike tight draw.
"I want to work for the cigar"
Perfect description of my exact opposite.
I don't think I've ever experienced a Davidoff with a "loose" or "open" draw. Which leads me to think that you might be much more used to (what I consider) the intolerably tight draw of many Cubans.
It is funny though how you describe being so angry at a loose draw. That's my exact feeling around tight draws. Makes the cigar tedious, and tends to alter the flavors in a negative way.
🤷♂️
Annoyed, not angry lol.
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Usman is used to tight and plugged Cubans. That's why the NW went bitter because he is drawing too hard, hence the hot fast burning cigar. In my humble opinion Cubans are over rated. Out of a box of 25 Epi No 2's aged for 4 years in their box in a humidor 8 were plugged/un smokable. In almost 30 years of smoking cigars I can probably count on one hand how many plugged NW I have smoked. I love certain Cubans but lean towards NW as they tend to be more reliable when it comes to their draw and flavour profile. Hay and grass gets a bit boring sometimes.
@@cigarinspector2023 Dude if there's one emotion on display in this video its either 'extreme annoyance' or very much borderline anger!
But either way, I've been watching your vids for a while! Really enjoy the way you structure your videos and the viewcounts prove many others feel the same way. Keep up the great work!
@@MatthiasClock really appreciate the support man. Honestly thank you :).
Agreed. I smoke cigars to relax, not "work" for them. Davidoffs have to be puffed slowly and softy. Cubans need hard, long, double puffs.
It's like making love versus rough sex lol.
The Draw is like A Limp handshake 🤣🤣 I'm in stitches
Exactly! Great comparison.
for cigars with loose drawing "issue" like most Davidoff, you should have used a smaller punch, instead of cutter.
Great review and great production. I couldn't agree more regarding a loose draw on a cigar. I smoked a Trinidad Topes (my first Topes) on Sunday and was it was like a wind tunnell. Terrible experience and a waste of money. Fortunately, it was followed by an Esmerelda later that night which was immaculate👌.
PS: I like the handshake analogy too. Hopefully Covid isn't about to herald the end to the humble handshake!
why dont you get a small punch cutter, it should fix your loose draw problems
I absolutely love a loose draw. The more smoke the better in my opinion.
Facts
C.Gars are now selling the Cohiba Behike 54 for £419.99 now and on some sites they are going for £500. 😮
Southern Draw sticks have a wide open draw but they don’t burn any hotter or faster than normal. I appreciate any draw other than almost to completely plugged. Thanks for the content
You repeated the issue about the loose draw too much. I mean, people tend to get annoyed when you repeat yourself 300 times
Yes sorry about that, it was filmed over two days I didn’t realise how much I made that point.
Finally you didn't tell us. Do you like loose daw cigars?
If you want a Behike at 30 punds, get san cristobal del habana 20th anniversary edition. it's and exclusive release for la casa del habano stores and a limited edition, but it's the best cigar I've ever smoked, and I smoke cigars since I was 17. I would buy 10 boxes of those if I had enough storage in my humidor
Awesome review, Amen to your arguments
Another top review. Nice one, Usman
I personally find davidoffs and padrons draw to be perfect. I wouldn't have it any other way
Davidoff has been irregular for me some are perfect and others can be far far too loose. Pardon on the other hand is straight up win tunnel lol.
Great review Usman, 2 real heavy weights. I love Davidoff's but I tend to always go for the regular production cigars, not special releases (even though the Royal is a RR). They smoke well and the draw is fine..... for me. I like smaller ring gauges and figurado's. But I get what you mean. I had cigar recently which felt like sucking air through a straw, the moment I started I wanted it to end. The Behike looks and sounds like the real deal. A shame as its so freakin expensive and now I feel the need to try one. But in some ways its like drinking wine, how much better is a £30 red compared to a £190 red? Its personal preference. Is the Behike better than a Siglo vi? Is the extra cost justified? Having never smoked the latter I wouldn't know. Was it in your book? Good honest review, nice work.
the new location is awsome. keep it up usman
Only using this location for those “special” videos lol.
@@cigarinspector2023 but isn't every video 'special'...
@@austinhelliar-hayton9924 dammit haha
Great video review. Thanks for the time and effort. :-)
We don't get a lot of chance at good Cubans here in the states but everyone I know that maintains Cubans here as the humidity around 65 where new world is around 70/72. Assuming the davidoff might be stored closer to 65 it might be a bit dry compared to the Cuban. Maybe try running a new world humidor at 72. Let them rest a while and see if that makes a difference for you.
It's a matter of preference. Good review.
great reviews as always. personally I love cigars with an open draw (they are hot if you draw to aggressively), i view tough draws like Mc Donald's milk shake, don't make me work for my pleasure lol but love your handshake analogy too. great work man.
Rock star status bro!!!
What do you prefer? A limp handshake or a loose drawing cigar?
180 Pounds for the Behike
85 Pounds for The Davidoff
Price of 2 cigars one could buy you a box of 25 RASS or Partagas D4 and you get a lot more enjoyment :)
Exactly, the number of cigars you can buy instead of these two lol.
Really miss all of your incredible video reviews. Where have you been hiding miss you much hope life is treating you well. Peace love.❤
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I agree on the draw. I need some resistance as well. I get very annoyed by loose draws. No more Davidoffs in the next videos. Some other new world cigars out there 1/5 the price of the Davidoff that are 10x better.
What separates good cigars from bad ones for me is the draw and i hate a tight draw.... absolute killer when it comes to enjoyment. Padron and davidoff both have a loose draw. Which is one of the reason they command such high prices. They Produce amazing amount of smoke which is smooth and thick. Padron and Davidoff have the absolute perfect draw. Never had a bad one from both companies.
Agreed on loosely wrapped cigars! They cannot burn correctly so one of those cannot be an excellent cigar. If a cigar stays lit it can hardly be too tight. Kind of like an espresso that does not extract correctly- it cannot taste good even if the coffee is great. The draw is everything!
They can. You just have to take slower draws, and not suck so hard. A loose draw with plenty of smoke production trumps a plugged Cuban all day long.
I really enjoy your videos and how you take the time to answer almost all of your comments. Where is the best reliable online source to buy a DuPont lighter?
That's very kind of you to say. I got my lighter from Cgars.com. Service is great. The lighters are also available on amazon:)
@@cigarinspector2023 thanks man!
You can punch your cigar for it to not be too loose of a draw or smoke it higher 60 rh
I totally agree with your comment on the loose draw, it's something I really dislike about Padron cigars too.
I do remember Monte Christo Churchill cigars from the beginning of the 2000th. It was a pain in the ass to smoke this shit. MUCH to tight and much to strong wrapped. The perfect draw is somewhere between loose and tight.....
Thanks for the review! With the recent price hike, you should make a video comparing BHK Flavor profile vs other Cohiba sticks flavor profiles (aged or not) and compare for best bang/buck ratio.
I have had all three Behikes sizes and my favorite is the 54. I have not had that Davidoff Royal, but I have smoked a bunch of the Solomon versions. Two of my all time favorites. I guess I will save my money and not get the Royal Robusto. lol.
The royal release is not at all a “spicy cigar”. Must have been stored incorrectly. I have 50 of them. It should be coco forward, with a hint of nutmeg and toasted almonds. First reviewer of this stick I ever heard accuse it of being spicy. LOL.
All the royal robusto I have smoked have been terrible. Ive spoken to several other people that have smoked them and they expressed a similar experience.
Having said that, the Royal Salamones is an incredible cigar. Not sure whats going on between the two as the blend should be the same but the Royal Release Robusto is a dud cigar in my books.
@@cigarinspector2023 literally everyone I know has the exact opposite view of you and yours
I agree it's a great cigar and the best size of the 2 offered. I love this cigar and I will be getting a 54 soon to try as well.
How was the davidoff stored? I bet it's RH was too low. I've never felt like my davidoffs have a ridiculously loose draw, mainly because I store them at higher RH than my cubans.
Have you tried pinching the cigar to tighten the draw? I do this with loose draws and tunneling and it helps. Doesn’t make it perfect but it makes it tolerable.
Yes have tried that and you’re right it helps but not to a great extent. Thank you for watching :).
Imagine Cigarobsession making this review. Davidiff would probably win because of the draw :D
He's a brilliant reviewer.
@@cigarinspector2023 I agree :) Still he ain't a fan of the "firm" draw :)
Limp handshake comment was awesome 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’ve herd people say the Davidoff has a loose draw mate, how did you find it?
Does the sight ship to the us been looking around most sites are out of stock
So what are his feelings on a loose draw? I couldn’t tell…. 😂
No but i love me some Behikes. They are pretty much my sole smoke these days. Worth the extra money over a typical premium cigar.
just a heads up, your shipping address is visible in this video
I hate loose draw as well. I like some resistance.
Yeah but today I had Cuban was way to tight with davidoff it's just perfect
@@cryptolord9826 ye well it happens. it happened to me with new world cigars. I also got a davidoff with a really bad burn.
But generally I do agree with Usman!
PS: I love Davidoff cigars too!!
Crazy prices!
You got that off of one draw?
Definitely smoked the whole thing lol.
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Strong double puffs on a loose cigar is why it’s getting hot. A loose cigar sitting in an ashtray does not get hotter than a snug one. It’s how you smoke it. Just slow down.
But that's a construction issue then. I have to smoke a long filler cigar the same way I need to smoke a short filler, which isn't ideal.
As much as we complain about tight drawing cigars and ones that are plugged, a loose drawing cigar is similarly poor when it comes to contruction. It's the same thing but on the opposite side of the spectrum.
I remember paying 70 Canadian Dollars for a Behike 52 in 2015. And i thought it was overpriced then lol 😂😂
This review definitely came off a little bias. If you smoked a couple before why even compare it if you hate it. Good non the less
Whenever I do a proper review I generally need to have smoked at least 3 cigars before producing the video.
Although this isn’t always possible I strive to do this and will make people aware if I haven’t.
Also all cigar reviews are inherently biased.
Thank you for watching.
Btw, have you considered doing reviews on other than Cuban cigars? Would be interested on hearing your opinion on ie. Oliva V double robusto, which happens to be one of my favourites (not a huge surprise there).
I did notice you did a stream about Cuban vs new world cigars a while back, but... well, I'm not going to sit here for ~2,5hrs just to see if you already addressed the matter. Sorry.
Completely understandable haha.
I will be doing non Cubans on the channel too although the review side of it will still more towards Cuban cigars.
£180 for one!!! lmao. How i wish that was true today but its more like 500 to 600 pounds now.
I'll stick with davidoff bro
That’s perfectly fine. Thank you for watching, much appreciated.
Ill take a high end padron over a davidoff any day infact im smoking a cheapy piedra robusto for 3 bucks and i bet its better flavor wise....the behikes no thanks for that amount ill buy 5 boxes of cohiba robustos instead lol
If you want resistance when you suck I can think of some things other than a cigar for you. I don’t wanna have to work to relax , defeats the purpose.
To clarify, the Davidoff didn't have an open draw it had an empty draw. IT was basically a wind tunnel and cigars such as those are flawed in how they were produced.
There's a balance between a having a good draw versus a difficult draw and I prefer something a little on the firmer side.
Having said that Almost every other Davidoff cigar I have smoked has exactly the kind of draw that I enjoy.
Hilarious looking at the prices now
Limp handshake 🤝😀👍🏼
I'd rather grab a handful of old cold spaghetti instead having another limp handshake expirience.
I understand you bought the cigars with your own money, however tell me your family has money with out telling me your family has money😉
I smoked the 52 and 54 several times, most overrated cigar in the market.
Just the name cohiba, you pay for that. Its ridicoules.
Oke now whe know you hate davidoff
Limp handshake 😄
I'll probably never smoke a Behike. I'm pretty sure I'll be missing something, but perhaps not something worth an extra 150£. I'll just have to seek comfort in my Siglo's and live vicariously though you.
On a side note: I think maybe you should ask yourself; what can be said about this cigar that is interesting and not repetitive? You don't have to make a script, but rather think about it beforehand, maybe do some light research and jot a few bullet points down on a piece of paper that you can refer to when you sense that you're getting stuck talking about the draw.
You're not missing a great deal to be honest especially if you smoke a nicely aged Siglo.
Dude you can’t make honest opinion be because you favor Cuban cigars over domestic cigars always and when you’re talking about them you get all worked up that’s how I know you love Cuban cigars. Note if you would’ve started out smoking domestic cigars first then you might have a different opinion now.
I do generally prefer Cuban cigars. Thats not a secret.