Contradictions in Spiritual Teachings

Gary describes how and why some of the practices in changing beliefs and emotions seem like contradictions. When is it appropriate to "believe in yourself", and when should you "not believe yourself"? How do exercises to "take action" and "stillness" both work? How do you validate the emotions a person has from an experience, but not the emotions from the story or beliefs?
Interview by Anna O'Brien, a wonderful friend.
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[@ragulkuppa1018]

Anna, you're the gold whisperer! Thanks for getting Gary to share his magic!!!!😃😃

[@garyvanwarmerdam1206]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@yinchimoon]

Thank you for posting this Gary. I see we come at things differently. Probably the biggest difference I have found personally is that the natural wisdom emerges not so much from practices but from a conscious choice from moment to moment situations in life to be guided by my intuition rather than another person, or a doctrine or an idea. And from that intention to honour the individuality of the life force that flows through me, which I have to say has been a painful and lonely experience mostly. True desire emerges which naturally evokes not only enthusiastic willpower to meet those desires but enormous courage and power that I had no idea was within me. (and in all of us)
I have found it not so much about creating a new identity but a recognition of more of the identity already there that has been obscured by conditioning. The purity of that identity and the trustworthiness of it as a state of being. The trauma and the life experiences are resources for what this lifeforce creates as in sensitivities to a sense of misalignment or an imbalance in the ecology. I have come to see that my body enjoys the effort from this point of view rather than a sense that this is the "best way to get where I want to go." And the egoic issues seem to melt away without a great deal of effort. The only real effort seems to be just to be prepared to see.
And that's probably what I have sensed in your videos as a subtle status when there is a prescripted process to follow with a "spiritual teacher", rather than a trusting in the wisdom that is individual to each of our bodies as your friend Anna was saying. Which is the nature of conditioning... someone outside of you knows the best way for you. That's not to say that we can't be helpful to others in describing some of the territory we had to negotiate to travel to where we are. But the extremes of that manifest in the world show how disempowered people have become from their true natures. I feel very fiery about that.

[@yinchimoon]

@@Darkloid21 Yes it's called logic and personal experience. Something I am finding difficult to follow in your answer = you seem to be criticising spiritual people and yet at the same time disdainful of "the brain or the mind". I think the term for that is gaslighting denying someone's reality. I am puzzled by your comments given you are obviously a supporter of Gary's work.
However you make some good points about dating and biases, both of which are impacted by gaslighting. I think they both relate to readiness for a new paradigm and depending on the amount of gaslighting (trauma) you have been conditioned with, it takes time to choose yourself. Other people choosing for you doesn't work as we have seen over and over again with battered women returning to violent relationships.
Perhaps you don't experience life force but just because you don't, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist in you or in me. Perhaps we want to hold onto the belief that others know us better than we do, because we still want to depend on other people's opinions and ability to "fix" us. Perhaps we are attached to the belief that we know best for another person. Perhaps it might be that belief that stops us being able to have dialogue with each other because another point of view challenges what we have invested in outside of ourselves.

[@yinchimoon]

No you're right - i have assumed you to be genuine but I see you just want something else. Whateever - have a "good" life doing whatever you seem to think is valuable. Over and out

[@garyvanwarmerdam1206]

Understanding each other is difficult. Thanks for taking the time to figure out some of the misunderstandings.

[@heatherwall9571]

How would you suggest coming out of a cult mindset that I got sucked into, years back, and lost all my relationships? I constantly feel suicidal 😢

[@garyvanwarmerdam1206]

Get some one-on-one help in person. I didn't figure this stuff out on my own, and I haven't met a person who has. Get a therapist, coach, or spiritual guide and start building a new mindset, new relationship patterns, and a new belief system. It may take some trial and error to find the right guide, and you may go through a few of them, but it will be worth it.