20 years ago I would have gotten the 6 speed. Now that I'm older, with sciatica and drive in 95% stop and go traffic as a daily driver, I am very happy with the DCT in my EN.
I’ve had both for about 6 months. I got my DCT intense blue Elantra N new. I liked it. I got my manual Cyber Gray Elantra N used with about 10k and some nice mods. Both are very good. No complaints about either one. The manual is definitely more fun
@@n-power-automotive I originally purchased the DCT in April 2022 and had to sell it while I was away from home. Came back in mid 2023 and found the manual for sale locally and purchased that with a few mods already installed from the owner. Sorry if my comment implied I had both at the same time, but they were owned separately. You really do miss the car once it’s gone. Avoid temptations to sell lol
@@paulklp8262 my first manual was an Audi A4 so I like that feeling. It’s nice to daily drive it and when you’re driving more aggressively it does work well for me at least
Don’t care how great the DCT is, I’ll always pick a manual if it’s available all day, every day and twice on Sunday. I’ll get a DST only when they completely stop making manuals God forbid.
Love the content, I'm going to give my input as an owner of an 2018 Elantra Sport, if you don't know about the car, just know this car started it all for the Veloster other N series vehicles. IMO, when it comes to the Manuel vs DCT/DSG talk, I think it all comes down to personal opinion and choice. I love my Elantra Sport, but the DCT was one of the first Hyundai used and was based off an Early DSG (Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche) model that Hyundai adapted for the Veloster and it's Turbo model. And Later Elantra Sport. Lucky with their later vehicles in the family even Kia, they were able to expand the speeds and add the "Wet" style DCT transmissions that made the German Market cars so popular. Such cars have made KDM and other cars using DCT/DSG cars so popular over Manuel's these days, of course IMO. I feel if you're getting any Hyundai / Kia product that's considered the sports model. The DCT in my opinion is definitely the better option over the manual. The dual clutch transmission isn't just an automatic, it's an automatic that behaves like a manual transmission. Even in the 7-speed dry DCT setups, it's great with proper maintenance, but the 8 speed and higher is amazing in Hyundai/Kia vehicles. And with Hyundai developing their DCTC with Volkswagen and Audi engineers in the Nurburgring racers this the "N" in the Hyundai sports branding, they have found a formula that works. Having personally driven a n-series Elantra, Veloster in Manuel setups and DCT setups I have liked them both. But the DCT won IMO because of a few things. 1. NGrin mode which is better on the DCT. 2. The DCT/DSG farts which seems to amplify when in sports mode, those that are fans of VW, Mercedes, BMW, Audi know what that sounds like, your car has it indeed. 3. The ease of driving if you live in a heavy traffic area during rush hour if your car is your daily. Me personally I love not having to clutch and inch and go, of course with an DCT it could still have it draw backs, but keep it in first gear in traffic you're good. All in all, it's personal choice. But if I were to upgrade my Elantra Sport, it would be the Elantra N or Genesis G70 TT both are great bangs for the buck and have great DCT's. But if I wanted a manual transmission....The Civic Type R would be my choice, although I wish Honda would of made a DCT model to compare the car with. But to name other notable car companies that are using DCT/DSG. Dodge, Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Mitsubishi, Nissan among other brand, I could name models specifically but this will be an even longer posting. Dodge actually used the DCT before Hyundai in the Dart Rallie model for the US market, and of course you mentioned VW with the Golf GTI and Jetta GLI.
So much bang for your buck with the EN. . Im glad i made the switch. Im barely at 900 miles and already want to start moding it. But Hesitant at the moment. It took a year of having my CTR before i even dropped an intake in it.
@@ctcdarkness I’ve never driven a CTR to be honest so it’s hard to compare, but just basing it off of reviews the EN is 9/10s of the CTR performance for minimum $15k less. But with that you’ll get a cheaper interior (except for the digital screens and infotainment, which is better in the EN) and less respect from badge snobs lol.
@@n-power-automotivethe type-R was the only one I couldn’t get to test drive out of this class of cars, didn’t like the golf-R nor gti. But I have beaten a few type-R’s on the street so for the price I’m definitely glad I went with the EN DCT. We’re all in the EN group’s on fb together, that’s actually how I found your channel lol. But I love hearing others perspectives on the CTR vs EN debate.
I 100% prefer manual but I broke my clutch foot 2 years ago and it’s never been the same. DCT still lets me have much more fun than a traditional auto but still isn’t as satisfying as a manual for me. By the way, how are the rubbing issues after you pushed down the bracket for your intake?
@@jordynhixson655Is your N model car modded or not? Because the Type R out horsepowers the the N model cars by 39 HP stock. The DCT is good from a dig, but the Type R could definitely pull on you still depending on the driver skill level.
@trenellsmith9057 Naw, I'm stock. And I had him send me videos too and I have them saved to prove it. Only things I have done on the car is lower mount bushing, upper engine mount bushing and transmission mount bushing. Everything else stock
I don’t have a EN but I do have a 2022 6MT VN (Came from a 21 Kia Forte GT 7 SP DCT btw). It’s a great platform Lap3 ecu tuned and it’s hella fun, sure not as fast as a DCT but way more engaging IMO
The EN has more HP/TQ due to the bigger turbo and then add the DCT is pretty quick. An FBO ECU tuned VN on the stock turbo can pull 280-300HP depending on the dyno and temp/air density/humidity. The EN’s tuned do in the 350 HP range.. 👍
I’m thinking about trading in my 19 Elantra SE for either a 18-20 Sport or a 21-22 N-Line. Reason? I had to acquire a vehicle during the post covid era when every car was marketed way too high after hearing my old vehicle was totalled while I was away for tech school training. Now these vehicles cost about the same I paid but I get way more. I wish I could get the N but it’s alittle out of my range atm. As of now, Hyundai is what Honda was back then. They really stepped their game up.
This comment doesn't have to do with this particular video, but I'm looking at getting a 24 EN, but I have a 6, 3 and 1 year old along with my wife. Would us 5 be able to fit in the EN? I know you said it's comfortable for a family of 4, but was curious with a family of 5 that two of them are still in car seats and one in a booster. Thanks! Also, I noticed on your screen you listen to Octane as well. Rock on!
Yes, I love Octane, and Lithium! Great question about the child seats. Honestly I can’t really say if they’d all fit or not. My kids were both out of car seats when I bought mine. I know others have had multiple car seats in the back though, but not sure about two car seats and a booster. Your best bet is joining Reddit r/ElantraN or an Elantra N group on FB, but I can poke around and report back if anyone has fit all three in back. At least it’s possible in the Elantra N since it offers seating for 5 vs the Type R and Type S that only offer seating for 4.
@n-power-automotive On gotcha, I appreciate that. Reddit had been very helpful for sure. I've asked a lot of questions on there, but didn't ask that exact question. I'll do that. This car looks so amazing, and even though I'll be driving it just myself commuting an hour rounf trip to work, we wanted a car that I could for the whole family in when needed. I've also been heavily looking at the 24 Sonata N Line. I know, totally different in a lot of ways, but it did look pretty awesome and a decent amount of power. I know I could for the family in that one. And i just remembered that you drove the 23 N Line. Do you feel I would be happy enough with that car knowing what you know about the EN and the N Line? I know that's ultimately up to each person's opinion, but since you have driven both models, I feel like you gave a pretty good feel on that. Cause I do like comfort and conveniences in cars. Lol. I'm 6 3 170, not overweight or anything, but we don't have the best roads where I live in a rural CA county. Sorry for the long message lol
@@n-power-automotive I could drive the fast car fast, but I got to a point where I was spending too much on fuel since it's also my daily. And I needed really wide tires to drive it properly
whats the mpg on elantra n? when on eco mode and not sending it every second? the regular elantra can do up to 51mpg, but normal elantra is very slow compared to EN. and how is the throttle and power on eco mode? does it limit the power to like 200hp or something (like how hyundai ioniq 5 would do it on an eco mode?)
In ECO I will easily get low to mid-30 MPG on the highway. Combined over 25k miles I’m averaging 28.2 MPG. Pretty amazing for the car IMO, but it doesn’t compare to a base Elantra. In ECO I do believe it is limited to around 200 HP because of the boost PSI being lower. It’s still got plenty of pickup to merge on the highway or pass a vehicle, but the throttle response is definitely turned way down, but that’s the way it conserves fuel.
Tbh, I don't own a N anything, but at some point, I will probably replace my Mazda 6 manual with a Hyundai N of some type. Not that long ago, I fractured my left ankle, and after not being capable of driving my manual for months, I kind of started rethinking my next vehicle transmission type. Coming from a manual, the natural auto choice is DCT. That said, Hyundai's 8spd DCT kind of scares me as far as long-term reliability goes. There has already been one recall, and recently the "Car Confections," channel bought a 2024 redesigned Santa Fe, and within weeks had a catastrophic DCT failure. This after Hyundai/Kia had class action lawsuits in regards to the 7spd dry DCT. So since my foot has healed mostly, and been back on the clutch, I again have strongly been considering a manual once again for 2 reasons. 1, it is a much less complex transmission and therefore more reliable long-term, and 2, it very well could be the last true manual I will ever have the opportunity for again.
I see a 23 EN for 2k off msrp price, but i'm torn on which one to get: The black manual or the blue DCT. Both have their advantages. I don't know what to do!!!
So im starting to see more 2024s pop up near me but 90% have been manuals. Are they just shipping mainly 6 speeds in the first run and later on the DCT? More of a rhetorical question, it's just been interesting considering the dct sells better.
I’ve noticed the same. Almost all the posts I’ve seen on the 24s arriving at dealerships have been manuals. I don’t know if it’s based on production or it’s a marketing decision to get the manuals to the enthusiasts first. I’m definitely surprised to see it that way though because I’d have to assume the DCTs sell better than manuals. At least it seemed there were way more DCTs made than manuals for the 22-23s.
All good points, but some markets outside the U.S. get the sunroof with a manual, including Canada. But definitely no NGS or remote start with a manual.
@n-power-automotive im from canada and i didnt even know the EN manuals have a sunroof here. The owner of the dealership had 1 2023 left and wanted it gone. I didnt wanna get black but he gave me about 5k off msrp so i took the deal
The dct is too good to give up, it’s very fast, but a stick makes sure you don’t get bored after driving for few months. Nowadays it’s easy to find a fast car, if you can use the left foot to drive, get a 6 speed before they disappear, they won’t be here much longer. That’s why I have a 6mt EN. Sometimes I regret when I see how fast and smooth the dct one is, but I can’t give up the manual because it encourage me to be a better driver
I completely respect that. I’ve had a lot of manual cars and there’s no doubt they’re more engaging and really fun to drive. I’ve had my DCT for 1.5 years and I haven’t gotten tired of it yet, but I’m probably in a different time of my life than most that own these.
Thanks for review but did you did not drive the manual? Perhaps drive before post review? I drove both back to back and had both for over a day.. the DCT is cool with NGS.. I found that it hits second gear and sort of maintains the rpm for a while and then powers through… is it spinning? DCT is more consistent to launch but weird as it hits 2nd gear?? and I thought with NGS the pops and bangs louder.. the manual doesn’t seem as responsive but it’s because you tend to lug the manual more where the dct will downshift., but driven hard has plenty of pace. The manual is atrocious to launch and wheel hops bad. Motor mount is mandatory upgrade for manual. The dct also holds boost between gears where the manual dumps Boost as you hit the clutch. I bought the manual for additional drivers engagement but often question if I should have bought DCT for outright pace.. I would say manual would be more reliable Long term.. both are great cars can’t go wrong..
No, I did not drive a manual EN, but only because they’re impossible to find in my area to test drive. Shoot, I had to put a deposit on mine without ever test driving it because there were zero Elantra N’s available. The day I test drive mine was the day it arrived off the truck. But I’m in many groups and have watched countless video reviews, as well as have owned 6 different manual vehicles in the past, so I can make a pretty good assessment of the driving experience. Don’t get me wrong, I love to drive manuals, but with a wife who doesn’t want to learn to drive one I decided to go with the DCT. I have zero regrets since it’s such a great transmission.
Your assessment was fair though. I didn’t realise how hard the manual is to find in your market. I had a very extensive test drive of both before I purchased the manual but I’m from Australia. The dealer left them with me Overnight over 2 days! The beauty is both dct and manual are very very good cars.
@@jonttran1092 the market is much, much different here in the states. Neither are readily available for test driving and the dealership experience is extremely poor in most cases compared to Australia.
The manual is so much more fun to drive. I have a 6-speed Elantra N. The DCT is actually faster. These days those transmissions just shift faster than humans. It depends on what you want, but if you want the experience over the tenth of a second faster...
It takes a little getting used to, as far as throttle input, so that it doesn’t feel jerky. Because it does not have a torque converter it takes sone finessing, but once you get used to it, it’s pretty smooth.
Many believe Hyundai’s starting to make one of the best DCTs on the market with ENs. But they make very average/ under average manual gearboxes. For me it was an easy option but to each their own. Great vid!
Great way of putting it! I never-ever thought I’d say HyundaI has the best automatic transmission of any car I’ve ever owned. Times have really changed!
There's no controversy at all, really. A) it's personal preference B) Yes, the auto is faster, but not sure why people would be street racing anyway... but whatever C) The most important, I'm a grown up, and therefore, I know how to drive a manual... which is why I bought the manual, specifically because this car offers a manual where the K5 didn't.
The controversy is in everyone’s varying opinions. Just read through the comments lol. You obviously love manuals, so it wasn’t hard decision for you. I’m not so sure about the “I’m a grown up so I know how to drive manual” thing though. That’s a little silly. I’m probably older than you and I didn’t feel I needed a manual to prove that. I’ve owned 6 different manual vehicles and most well before I was considered “grown up” so it’s kind of a weird statement.
@@n-power-automotive - I’m 49. My comment was directed at Millennials and Zoomers who absolutely don’t know how to drive manuals. Plus, it serves as a good theft deterrent since most Americans no longer know how to drive stick either. lol. Also, you read what I put as A) in my response; personal preference. I drove a DCT before i got the call that the manual was available. And since i’m fairly certain this will be the last time i buy a manual, i went for it. Again, for me it isn’t a daily driver so i don’t have the traffic headache either. I’m sure i would’ve been just as happy with the DCT though, for sure.
@@GenXisT ok you got me by a couple years. Definitely agree on the theft deterrent and lack of knowledge by the younger generations on how to drive manuals ha ha.
A DCT is not like an automated manual - that’s an SMG. The DCT has a two clutch system so one clutch can handle odd gears and the other can handle even gears, which allows for much faster shifts.
It is still considered a type of automated manual. It has a clutch (two in this case) and syncros, but instead of being moved by a shifter it’s controlled by a computer.
I used to be a diehard manual guy, but the second I drove a DCT, I will never daily drive a manual again. Maybe I'll get a manual for a weekend car. A DCT is the best of both worlds because it doesn't drive like an automatic, there's no delay in the paddle shifters like in a 10r80 or a Zf8 it's faster, so it's excellent around a track and in a straight line, a manual just can't keep up and neither can torque converter automatics.....
Manual shifter dedicated Wwaaaaayyy better that any GR yaris or corolla... only the civic type r has a better shifter but the steering in the elantra N is better that the on in the type r
Glad you love your manual EN! I’ve never driven a CTR, so I can’t say the EN has better steering than it, but I do love the steering feel in the EN for sure!
If you don’t say DCT it’s because you’re a child in your mentality for driving and think that manual makes it cooler somehow. I did the manual shit growing up and living in Cali I will never get another manual in my life. That shit sucks for traffic and if the manual is genuinely slower than the DCT what’s the point?
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks I’m coming from a ~650whp m240 that I daily drove. Going fast in a straight line gets boring. I enjoy track days a lot more as well.
20 years ago I would have gotten the 6 speed. Now that I'm older, with sciatica and drive in 95% stop and go traffic as a daily driver, I am very happy with the DCT in my EN.
Could not agree more! 👍 Plus the DCT is a Nasty Tranny! 💯
Absolutely. Same here.
Same here I am a veteran drove many manuals all my life is time to chill with dct ❤plus dct feels like a euro car
Could not agree more! 👍Plus the DCT is a nasty fun Trans.💪 Let the young guys have fun with the Manuals.
I’ve had both for about 6 months. I got my DCT intense blue Elantra N new. I liked it. I got my manual Cyber Gray Elantra N used with about 10k and some nice mods. Both are very good. No complaints about either one. The manual is definitely more fun
Wow both huh? What’s the reasoning for having two of the same car? Just curious.
@@n-power-automotive I originally purchased the DCT in April 2022 and had to sell it while I was away from home. Came back in mid 2023 and found the manual for sale locally and purchased that with a few mods already installed from the owner. Sorry if my comment implied I had both at the same time, but they were owned separately. You really do miss the car once it’s gone. Avoid temptations to sell lol
Test drove a manual Elantra N and a DCT-only Kona N. Bought the Kona N. Hyundai manuals (not just N cars) are too vague and rubbery.
@@paulklp8262 my first manual was an Audi A4 so I like that feeling. It’s nice to daily drive it and when you’re driving more aggressively it does work well for me at least
@donnyr2788 what mods came with the car already?
Don’t care how great the DCT is, I’ll always pick a manual if it’s available all day, every day and twice on Sunday. I’ll get a DST only when they completely stop making manuals God forbid.
I respect your commitment to saving the manuals!
Amen I love it
I am loving this channel after researching for and purchasing a 2023 Elantra N with barely 7000km (about 5000 miles)
Glad it’s helped!
Love the content, I'm going to give my input as an owner of an 2018 Elantra Sport, if you don't know about the car, just know this car started it all for the Veloster other N series vehicles. IMO, when it comes to the Manuel vs DCT/DSG talk, I think it all comes down to personal opinion and choice. I love my Elantra Sport, but the DCT was one of the first Hyundai used and was based off an Early DSG (Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche) model that Hyundai adapted for the Veloster and it's Turbo model. And Later Elantra Sport. Lucky with their later vehicles in the family even Kia, they were able to expand the speeds and add the "Wet" style DCT transmissions that made the German Market cars so popular. Such cars have made KDM and other cars using DCT/DSG cars so popular over Manuel's these days, of course IMO. I feel if you're getting any Hyundai / Kia product that's considered the sports model. The DCT in my opinion is definitely the better option over the manual. The dual clutch transmission isn't just an automatic, it's an automatic that behaves like a manual transmission. Even in the 7-speed dry DCT setups, it's great with proper maintenance, but the 8 speed and higher is amazing in Hyundai/Kia vehicles. And with Hyundai developing their DCTC with Volkswagen and Audi engineers in the Nurburgring racers this the "N" in the Hyundai sports branding, they have found a formula that works. Having personally driven a n-series Elantra, Veloster in Manuel setups and DCT setups I have liked them both. But the DCT won IMO because of a few things. 1. NGrin mode which is better on the DCT. 2. The DCT/DSG farts which seems to amplify when in sports mode, those that are fans of VW, Mercedes, BMW, Audi know what that sounds like, your car has it indeed. 3. The ease of driving if you live in a heavy traffic area during rush hour if your car is your daily. Me personally I love not having to clutch and inch and go, of course with an DCT it could still have it draw backs, but keep it in first gear in traffic you're good. All in all, it's personal choice. But if I were to upgrade my Elantra Sport, it would be the Elantra N or Genesis G70 TT both are great bangs for the buck and have great DCT's. But if I wanted a manual transmission....The Civic Type R would be my choice, although I wish Honda would of made a DCT model to compare the car with. But to name other notable car companies that are using DCT/DSG. Dodge, Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Mitsubishi, Nissan among other brand, I could name models specifically but this will be an even longer posting. Dodge actually used the DCT before Hyundai in the Dart Rallie model for the US market, and of course you mentioned VW with the Golf GTI and Jetta GLI.
Thanks for sharing all that info!
So much bang for your buck with the EN. . Im glad i made the switch. Im barely at 900 miles and already want to start moding it. But Hesitant at the moment. It took a year of having my CTR before i even dropped an intake in it.
I feel ya. I waited a year before I even got an intake. The car is so good from the factory, but as a car guy I too was still eager to mod mine.
So far how does the EN stack up to the CTR from your personal perspective?
@@ctcdarkness I’ve never driven a CTR to be honest so it’s hard to compare, but just basing it off of reviews the EN is 9/10s of the CTR performance for minimum $15k less. But with that you’ll get a cheaper interior (except for the digital screens and infotainment, which is better in the EN) and less respect from badge snobs lol.
@@n-power-automotivethe type-R was the only one I couldn’t get to test drive out of this class of cars, didn’t like the golf-R nor gti. But I have beaten a few type-R’s on the street so for the price I’m definitely glad I went with the EN DCT. We’re all in the EN group’s on fb together, that’s actually how I found your channel lol. But I love hearing others perspectives on the CTR vs EN debate.
@@ctcdarkness that’s awesome man!
I 100% prefer manual but I broke my clutch foot 2 years ago and it’s never been the same. DCT still lets me have much more fun than a traditional auto but still isn’t as satisfying as a manual for me. By the way, how are the rubbing issues after you pushed down the bracket for your intake?
I was looking into the Elantra GT N like hatch but idk which transmission
My DCT intense blu just hit 1k 🎉 and this car it’s super fun
Congrats! Intense Blue is such a nice color!
DCT so you can wreck Type R's on the streets. Make them regret that extra $20k with mark ups 😂
I haven’t encountered one yet but I’d love to see how I’d do against one.
@n-power-automotive Raced the same one like 15 times and beat him everytime. Even did 1 dig and beat him. DCT is the way to go
@@jordynhixson655Is your N model car modded or not? Because the Type R out horsepowers the the N model cars by 39 HP stock. The DCT is good from a dig, but the Type R could definitely pull on you still depending on the driver skill level.
@user-gz9tq9fo5b poor guy doesn't know you hear that guys Scotty doesn't know LMAO
@trenellsmith9057 Naw, I'm stock. And I had him send me videos too and I have them saved to prove it. Only things I have done on the car is lower mount bushing, upper engine mount bushing and transmission mount bushing. Everything else stock
I don’t have a EN but I do have a 2022 6MT VN (Came from a 21 Kia Forte GT 7 SP DCT btw). It’s a great platform
Lap3 ecu tuned and it’s hella fun, sure not as fast as a DCT but way more engaging IMO
I would think the LAP3 tune would make it faster than a stock DCT, no?
The EN has more HP/TQ due to the bigger turbo and then add the DCT is pretty quick. An FBO ECU tuned VN on the stock turbo can pull 280-300HP depending on the dyno and temp/air density/humidity. The EN’s tuned do in the 350 HP range.. 👍
The fastest EN and VN are manuals 🤷🏽
@@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr very true, if you’re talking modified, the manuals can handle more HP/TQ than the DCTs.
I just test drove the same car on the same road in Madison tn
It might be worth noting that the Forte GT and Elantra N-Line share a 7 speed dct.
Different transmission. Those are 7 speed dry DCTs. The Elantra N is an 8 speed wet DCT.
I’m thinking about trading in my 19 Elantra SE for either a 18-20 Sport or a 21-22 N-Line. Reason? I had to acquire a vehicle during the post covid era when every car was marketed way too high after hearing my old vehicle was totalled while I was away for tech school training. Now these vehicles cost about the same I paid but I get way more. I wish I could get the N but it’s alittle out of my range atm. As of now, Hyundai is what Honda was back then. They really stepped their game up.
The Sport or N-Line would still be a nice upgrade from your SE. Good luck!
This comment doesn't have to do with this particular video, but I'm looking at getting a 24 EN, but I have a 6, 3 and 1 year old along with my wife. Would us 5 be able to fit in the EN? I know you said it's comfortable for a family of 4, but was curious with a family of 5 that two of them are still in car seats and one in a booster. Thanks! Also, I noticed on your screen you listen to Octane as well. Rock on!
Yes, I love Octane, and Lithium! Great question about the child seats. Honestly I can’t really say if they’d all fit or not. My kids were both out of car seats when I bought mine. I know others have had multiple car seats in the back though, but not sure about two car seats and a booster. Your best bet is joining Reddit r/ElantraN or an Elantra N group on FB, but I can poke around and report back if anyone has fit all three in back. At least it’s possible in the Elantra N since it offers seating for 5 vs the Type R and Type S that only offer seating for 4.
@n-power-automotive On gotcha, I appreciate that. Reddit had been very helpful for sure. I've asked a lot of questions on there, but didn't ask that exact question. I'll do that. This car looks so amazing, and even though I'll be driving it just myself commuting an hour rounf trip to work, we wanted a car that I could for the whole family in when needed. I've also been heavily looking at the 24 Sonata N Line. I know, totally different in a lot of ways, but it did look pretty awesome and a decent amount of power. I know I could for the family in that one. And i just remembered that you drove the 23 N Line. Do you feel I would be happy enough with that car knowing what you know about the EN and the N Line? I know that's ultimately up to each person's opinion, but since you have driven both models, I feel like you gave a pretty good feel on that. Cause I do like comfort and conveniences in cars. Lol. I'm 6 3 170, not overweight or anything, but we don't have the best roads where I live in a rural CA county. Sorry for the long message lol
I got the 6MT on saturday coming from a tuned zf8 M240. I wanted a manual with something lower powered as I wanted to have fun.
Nice, congrats! It’s true what they say… it’s better to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow.
@@n-power-automotive I could drive the fast car fast, but I got to a point where I was spending too much on fuel since it's also my daily. And I needed really wide tires to drive it properly
@@n-power-automotiveno it isn’t lol
Honestly makes no sense.
@@TheRealBobWillkins When you start spending $1k CAD/month on gas it gets crazy. Coupled with the 2 door insurance tax
whats the mpg on elantra n? when on eco mode and not sending it every second? the regular elantra can do up to 51mpg, but normal elantra is very slow compared to EN.
and how is the throttle and power on eco mode? does it limit the power to like 200hp or something (like how hyundai ioniq 5 would do it on an eco mode?)
In ECO I will easily get low to mid-30 MPG on the highway. Combined over 25k miles I’m averaging 28.2 MPG. Pretty amazing for the car IMO, but it doesn’t compare to a base Elantra. In ECO I do believe it is limited to around 200 HP because of the boost PSI being lower. It’s still got plenty of pickup to merge on the highway or pass a vehicle, but the throttle response is definitely turned way down, but that’s the way it conserves fuel.
@@n-power-automotive great, thanks for the detailed reply!!
Tbh, I don't own a N anything, but at some point, I will probably replace my Mazda 6 manual with a Hyundai N of some type. Not that long ago, I fractured my left ankle, and after not being capable of driving my manual for months, I kind of started rethinking my next vehicle transmission type. Coming from a manual, the natural auto choice is DCT. That said, Hyundai's 8spd DCT kind of scares me as far as long-term reliability goes. There has already been one recall, and recently the "Car Confections," channel bought a 2024 redesigned Santa Fe, and within weeks had a catastrophic DCT failure. This after Hyundai/Kia had class action lawsuits in regards to the 7spd dry DCT. So since my foot has healed mostly, and been back on the clutch, I again have strongly been considering a manual once again for 2 reasons. 1, it is a much less complex transmission and therefore more reliable long-term, and 2, it very well could be the last true manual I will ever have the opportunity for again.
I see a 23 EN for 2k off msrp price, but i'm torn on which one to get: The black manual or the blue DCT. Both have their advantages. I don't know what to do!!!
If you’re not a I must have a manual diehard, I’d go DCT.
@@taemeister9302 I respect your dedication to the manual!
off topic but i reckon you should install a good BOV it will make ur car sound better with that intake and is good for your car so win win!
I might consider one once I tune for reliability reasons, but for now the intake whoosh is perfect for me.
@@n-power-automotive yeah that’s sounds reasonable and either way your intake and the exhaust combo sound so beautiful together! 👌🏽
So im starting to see more 2024s pop up near me but 90% have been manuals. Are they just shipping mainly 6 speeds in the first run and later on the DCT? More of a rhetorical question, it's just been interesting considering the dct sells better.
I’ve noticed the same. Almost all the posts I’ve seen on the 24s arriving at dealerships have been manuals. I don’t know if it’s based on production or it’s a marketing decision to get the manuals to the enthusiasts first. I’m definitely surprised to see it that way though because I’d have to assume the DCTs sell better than manuals. At least it seemed there were way more DCTs made than manuals for the 22-23s.
@@n-power-automotive exactly. Guess wait and see over the next few weeks what comes in. But at least now they are trickling in more. 🙌🏽
@@porfiriato84 yeah it’s awesome to saw them finally getting out into the wild!
Keep in mind the manual version lacks the sunroof and the NGS button. Also some manuals dont work with remote start so youre losing out on that aswell
All good points, but some markets outside the U.S. get the sunroof with a manual, including Canada. But definitely no NGS or remote start with a manual.
@n-power-automotive im from canada and i didnt even know the EN manuals have a sunroof here. The owner of the dealership had 1 2023 left and wanted it gone. I didnt wanna get black but he gave me about 5k off msrp so i took the deal
The dct is too good to give up, it’s very fast, but a stick makes sure you don’t get bored after driving for few months. Nowadays it’s easy to find a fast car, if you can use the left foot to drive, get a 6 speed before they disappear, they won’t be here much longer. That’s why I have a 6mt EN. Sometimes I regret when I see how fast and smooth the dct one is, but I can’t give up the manual because it encourage me to be a better driver
I completely respect that. I’ve had a lot of manual cars and there’s no doubt they’re more engaging and really fun to drive. I’ve had my DCT for 1.5 years and I haven’t gotten tired of it yet, but I’m probably in a different time of my life than most that own these.
I had my Elantra N for 2 years and still not bored.
Weird that you don't get th sunroof with the manuals over there
Not sure why they decided to do it that way.
Alone here but I prefer a car without a sunroof. Owned many cars and the sunroof has been a issue eventually
Thanks for review but did you did not drive the manual? Perhaps drive before post review? I drove both back to back and had both for over a day.. the DCT is cool with NGS.. I found that it hits second gear and sort of maintains the rpm for a while and then powers through… is it spinning? DCT is more consistent to launch but weird as it hits 2nd gear?? and I thought with NGS the pops and bangs louder.. the manual doesn’t seem as responsive but it’s because you tend to lug the manual more where the dct will downshift., but driven hard has plenty of pace. The manual is atrocious to launch and wheel hops bad. Motor mount is mandatory upgrade for manual. The dct also holds boost between gears where the manual dumps
Boost as you hit the clutch. I bought the manual for additional drivers engagement but often question if I should have bought DCT for outright pace.. I would say manual would be more reliable Long term.. both are great cars can’t go wrong..
No, I did not drive a manual EN, but only because they’re impossible to find in my area to test drive. Shoot, I had to put a deposit on mine without ever test driving it because there were zero Elantra N’s available. The day I test drive mine was the day it arrived off the truck. But I’m in many groups and have watched countless video reviews, as well as have owned 6 different manual vehicles in the past, so I can make a pretty good assessment of the driving experience. Don’t get me wrong, I love to drive manuals, but with a wife who doesn’t want to learn to drive one I decided to go with the DCT. I have zero regrets since it’s such a great transmission.
Your assessment was fair though. I didn’t realise how hard the manual is to find in your market. I had a very extensive test drive of both before I purchased the manual but I’m from Australia. The dealer left them with me
Overnight over 2 days! The beauty is both dct and manual are very very good cars.
@@jonttran1092 the market is much, much different here in the states. Neither are readily available for test driving and the dealership experience is extremely poor in most cases compared to Australia.
The manual is so much more fun to drive. I have a 6-speed Elantra N. The DCT is actually faster. These days those transmissions just shift faster than humans. It depends on what you want, but if you want the experience over the tenth of a second faster...
It’s a little more than a tenth, but who’s counting, right? 😉
Yeah, and if it was that big of a deal then go with aftermarket mods. I just have a blast driving! @@n-power-automotive
@@jessicaphoenix1312 I was poking at ya! 😝 It absolutely just comes down to get what will make you happy and have a blast when you drive!
is it a good car to learn standard?
I’m curious how the DCT is in stop and go traffic
It takes a little getting used to, as far as throttle input, so that it doesn’t feel jerky. Because it does not have a torque converter it takes sone finessing, but once you get used to it, it’s pretty smooth.
@@n-power-automotive thank you
Many believe Hyundai’s starting to make one of the best DCTs on the market with ENs. But they make very average/ under average manual gearboxes. For me it was an easy option but to each their own. Great vid!
Great way of putting it! I never-ever thought I’d say HyundaI has the best automatic transmission of any car I’ve ever owned. Times have really changed!
There's no controversy at all, really.
A) it's personal preference
B) Yes, the auto is faster, but not sure why people would be street racing anyway... but whatever
C) The most important, I'm a grown up, and therefore, I know how to drive a manual... which is why I bought the manual, specifically because this car offers a manual where the K5 didn't.
The controversy is in everyone’s varying opinions. Just read through the comments lol. You obviously love manuals, so it wasn’t hard decision for you. I’m not so sure about the “I’m a grown up so I know how to drive manual” thing though. That’s a little silly. I’m probably older than you and I didn’t feel I needed a manual to prove that. I’ve owned 6 different manual vehicles and most well before I was considered “grown up” so it’s kind of a weird statement.
@@n-power-automotive - I’m 49. My comment was directed at Millennials and Zoomers who absolutely don’t know how to drive manuals. Plus, it serves as a good theft deterrent since most Americans no longer know how to drive stick either. lol.
Also, you read what I put as A) in my response; personal preference. I drove a DCT before i got the call that the manual was available. And since i’m fairly certain this will be the last time i buy a manual, i went for it. Again, for me it isn’t a daily driver so i don’t have the traffic headache either.
I’m sure i would’ve been just as happy with the DCT though, for sure.
@@GenXisT ok you got me by a couple years. Definitely agree on the theft deterrent and lack of knowledge by the younger generations on how to drive manuals ha ha.
A DCT is not like an automated manual - that’s an SMG. The DCT has a two clutch system so one clutch can handle odd gears and the other can handle even gears, which allows for much faster shifts.
It is still considered a type of automated manual. It has a clutch (two in this case) and syncros, but instead of being moved by a shifter it’s controlled by a computer.
I used to be a diehard manual guy, but the second I drove a DCT, I will never daily drive a manual again. Maybe I'll get a manual for a weekend car. A DCT is the best of both worlds because it doesn't drive like an automatic, there's no delay in the paddle shifters like in a 10r80 or a Zf8 it's faster, so it's excellent around a track and in a straight line, a manual just can't keep up and neither can torque converter automatics.....
Exactly!
DCT is far superior. You have a good chance at the lights when coming across a kid in a FL type r.
Personally, no automictic cars regardless how advanced it is can provide the same kind of fun driving a manual.
If you are going to tune for power, go with the manual.
How about drive both.
@@Vffr1 yep, that’d be the best way of figuring it out, but the challenge would be finding two to test drive.
@@n-power-automotive I picked up my grey N today (7/20/24). I ordered the manual, ended with the Auto, couldn't be happier. Triple
Which one would drive better in snowed/iced roads?
I would think any auto might be a little easier to drive in the snow than a manual, but they’re probably pretty equal.
Manual shifter dedicated Wwaaaaayyy better that any GR yaris or corolla... only the civic type r has a better shifter but the steering in the elantra N is better that the on in the type r
Glad you love your manual EN! I’ve never driven a CTR, so I can’t say the EN has better steering than it, but I do love the steering feel in the EN for sure!
cant upgrade power with the dct
Not true at all, but the manual can handle more added power, that is until they start selling upgraded clutches for the DCT.
is it out yet?
@@n-power-automotive
Whenever the manual is an option, you always choose that. Put down your 1200 calorie latte, stop texting, and row your own gears.
@@joeb2588 but the DCT is faster 😬🤣
@@n-power-automotive but you're not driving the car. The car drives you...unless it's a manual.
@@joeb2588 I’m pretty sure I’m still driving the car lol, I’m just not shifting the gears, but I can do that too if I use the paddles.
The Cadillac Blackwing cars come with a manual. Auto is not a DCT though.
True, but those are a much, much more expensive price point.
@@n-power-automotive yeah they are. I was just throwing the other manual sedans I could think of out there.
DCT unless you want a half-a-second of nothing in between shifts. Even torque converter manuals are faster than the manuals now.
Stick
If you don’t say DCT it’s because you’re a child in your mentality for driving and think that manual makes it cooler somehow. I did the manual shit growing up and living in Cali I will never get another manual in my life. That shit sucks for traffic and if the manual is genuinely slower than the DCT what’s the point?
ur just bad at manual then
To your last point, why does it matter if it’s slower? Who’s buying this to go fast? It’s a pretty slow car already.
@la.m240i6 yup you can get brand new Mustang 5.0 with 10 speed $39k if that's your goal. Add boost($10k) 750+whp 9 sec passes easy
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks I’m coming from a ~650whp m240 that I daily drove. Going fast in a straight line gets boring. I enjoy track days a lot more as well.
@@la.m240i6 that's sweet I'm the same much prefer miata/brz type. Really depends where you live most people don't live near good roads