My dream too as I had one in my hands at photocina2018, currently I own a A9 and also consider a Leica SL(best EVF), as of now I had about 15 different types of cameras, but the best look and IQ has the Sony RX1R mark1 delivered. My A9 is 10x faster and has 100 more menu options but does not deliver that quality, any thought on that??
My favourite camera is the Z7. I've been shooting landscapes with crop censor cameras for 4 years so until recently I've never had the privilege of using a "full frame" camera.
Look at this like I did. Hasselblad - Stylish unit with heritage, gorgeous optics - leaf shutter +50MPX. Optics cost more than some people pay for their cars. 50MPX - most are going this way now. No flippy screen. SLR style but no extra grip - even if just for the extra battery performance. Hot shoe but no dedicated flash unit available. I went for Fujifilm GFX 50S for all those reasons above. Pricewise if you chose two Hass optics with an X1D you could afford the GFX100 and a kit lens.
I'll echo the previous comments. Balanced and logical presentations from an image maker that walks the walk. Makes a change from those that just talk the talk. Top guy.
You were forgiving in your comments. The Z7 is a great camera. The Hasselblad image had layers of better quality, though, over the Z7 - background detail and clarity were extraordinary and the image color(grey vs pulling out blues and reds) seemed if not accurate, mood enhancing (this may be different post-prod of not sooc). The cost of the Hasselblad is prohibitive (for me) and it does seem with more experimentation with lens and focal length, it may be possible to get even closer in image quality with the Z7. Its all fun.
The only reason to go with the X1Ds is the leaf shutter if you use flash, If you don't, go with Fujifilm GX100S that have a true 16-bit sensor. It will focus instantly on that boat far out at sea and have excellent image stabilization, but sadly no leaf shutter lenses. So your finding that the Z7 and the X1D are very similar is no surprise.
@@MattIrwinPhotography Whatever camera that gets the job done. I hope it's the Sony A7r iv, as I have just ordered one together with a 400/2.8 that I hope will get me a better keeper rate on birds and wildlife on dark Scandinavian winter mornings and less sore arms and back than my old, much heavier, Nikon kit.
@@MattIrwinPhotography Z6 mainly and still rocking my D810 when I need the 36MP or 3D focus tracking, but it's mostly collecting dust. I would also say that the AF on the D810 is only moderately better than the Z6 for fast moving subjects. The D850 is a signifcantly better at AF and was going to be my next upgrade up until the Z bodies were released. I struggled with the decision to jump to Z body and nearly bought the Z7 instead of the Z6. But, honestly the D810 worked wonderfully, so I decided on the Z6 for the improved video quality over what the DSLR's were providing and ended up actually purchasing the Z6 filmmakers kit. I love it. In addition to the 24-70f4 kit lens, I've purchased the 24-70f2.8 (beautiful lens) and the 14-30f4 (also fabulous). I use my f-mount 85f1.4 with it all the time and get better results than on the D810. This system is awesome and I'm looking forward to the future. Perhaps I can retire my D810 with a Z8 or Z9 in the next year or so???
The Hasselblad is definitely capturing more details in the background. The skyscrapers are much sharper. You can see the different floors more clearly. My dream camera is the EOS R5. It is a jack of all trades with precise AF. Canon's is also doing a good job of producing exotic lenses like the new RF 100 macro and the upcoming RF TS lenses that I use for my line of work.
It's funny, when watching your videos, I keep forgetting that you're not a major youtuber (hate that word, but in terms of subscribers) because the quality of content is outstanding - and you're very good at communicating knowledge/information at the same time. It's a winning combination for me. 7,8k subs is absurd to me, you deserve 100k+ easily! It will surely come as more people discover your channel though. Keep it up!
Thanks so much mismis888, means a lot. As they say all good things take time. And I am confident we will get to that point and beyond. What camera are you creating with in 2020? Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography Hey! I currently own a trusty old D600 which honestly still does a really solid job - and then I'm lucky enough to work in a camera shop, meaning I can borrow a heap of things I wouldn't be able to afford, which means right now I'm testing an EOS R with canons rf 50 1.2, perfect for some night time street shots! 😉
Yeah definitely deserves more subs, and they'll come no doubt about it! It's usually always the same, the small channel stays small for a while, but it seems like one day things just pick up and people start flooding to channels with good content, and then the growth is really fast. keep it up Matt :)
Hi Matt thanks for the vid. If money was no object I would buy a Hasselblad, just to be able to use it when circumstances demand. As my budget is limited I make do with my Z6 and Canon 90d. They are good enough for me
Dear Matt, firstly, I really like your "Call Out Titles/Motion Track text"; 1:28. When revealing specs on X1D and Z7 -Really clever and that deserves a tutorial in and of, itself. I also noted that the inbuilt audio on the Z50 was really "great". (Subsequent video I realise )The X1D II is phenomenal when it comes to details, it's just mind blowing. My dream camera is simply the Z6 because of the video capabilities and still images with a 20mm f.1.8. That's as much as I can dream at the moment. Thanks for another great comparison video. Pete
I’ve rented both of these cameras in the past month. The images out of the X1D are very nice. The process of getting those pictures is another story. The Hasselblad is slow and has a primitive metering system as compared to the Z7. Between these two I’d take the Nikon. I’m testing a Fuji GFX 50s this next week. It will really have to Wow me. I really like the Z7. I’m looking for a mirrorless D850 replacement.
I can see the difference is big, you can see the dynamic range is better on the hassy, love that hassy, own the Z6,D800, H4-60, and by far, the best camera I have had is my Hasselblad 500CM, Amazing camera, there is no comparison, image quality day and night from full frame to Medium Format, Love your videos, keep it up!
My dream camera was the Leica M10-P, which I now have. It brings a refreshing simplicity and circumspection to my photography that I missed with today's do-it-all-for-you (almost) cameras. The technological marvels have their place for sure, but so do Leicas and Hasselblads. That's the beauty of photography. Now, I am thinking of a second hand Hasselblad H series digital for my future grail camera.
I own the Nikon D850 and I own the Hasselblad X1D II system. These systems are not the same and they do no compare! I love both and guess what all my Nikon lenses and lighting equipment work with my Hasselblad :)
Hi ..! From the pictures you show, it seems to be clear the difference between the Z7 and the X1D II is so tinny the its hard to tell , and so the Nikon is in general a much practical option . What are your thoughts now a day about ..? What about the Canon R5 ..? Ive recently tried a R5 and I've seen the images are big , but the quality is not the same as the pictures of a Pentax 645 Z which I work with . Regards .
I see the Hassy as an esoteric product. Bit like a Porsche take it out for a spin on a Sunday put a smile on your face have some lunch. But on Monday I’m back in my Hyundai. I have acquired a few cameras and I enjoy their various attributes. To me there is no such thing as the “one”. Know what the camera & lenses can do for You and dont try to find faults with it. Personally I’d go for a Fuji GFXr and a couple of lenses, if I wanted to dabble in the large sensor sector. Cheers
Really good Matt, thanks..I have my dream camera, a Rolleiflex 2.8f. Just awesome medium format camera and beautiful to boot. For digital, my Z7 is perfect as well.
Bill McCarroll I was never inspired5 by that focal length until I bought this lens. Couldn’t agree more (although I’d love to try out the 85 mm, as well as longer focal lengths to come, and of course the new 20 mm)
I've owned, and used, two different samples of the X1D. I found that they were not the most reliable things I've ever used (I got several "lens not attached" messages, when the lens was very much attached) and the battery life was poor. On the flip side, it was a beautiful camera to actually shoot with, and when you really nailed a shot, it took your breath away. Definitely a curate's egg of a camera, but even now I've considered finding a reasonably priced used one and giving it another shot.
Nice video. Really. Interesting questions and food for thought. So here are a couple thinking aloud thoughts. 1. Megapixels are an area (2nd degree) thing and detail resolution is perceived linearly (1st degree). When we compare diagonal resolution in pixels, we have a good prediction of how we are able to see the difference. Anything under 50% when you start very good, is difficult to see. 2. That Hasselblad is small format in my book (being significantly under 45mm x56mm). 3. When you compared the two shots around 11:00 my question was, what profile settings you used. "Yes but I shot raw," you may say. Yes, and I found out that the "Flat" profile, at least in video" gives a different "raw" movie result. E.g. it has little sharpening applied in camera. We have to understand that a "raw" file is actually "well done" in cooking terms. A sensor has no "RGB" and pixels are the result of computation. Also, this Z 7 sensor is ISO invariant and has two gain levels: base gain from lowest to 400 ISO and hi-gain starts above that (I am certain about 800 ISO). If you want to compare the Z 7 with the X1, you might want to set the Z 7 to 800 ISO to get access to hi-gain amplification of the sensor. Also, 64 ISO may not be the "best "native" sensor value in that it reduces dynamic range. There is a lot to figure out here that is not in the user guide nor the reference manual - IMO these documents are written by people with zero understanding of photography and how a digital product relates to that. 4. I wonder what Capture One 20 does with Nikon Z 7 firmware version 3 raw files and my expectation (prejudice) is, not the optimal approach. I would like to see both these images converted to 32-bit in Photoshop and have some processing applied to see the difference. The 32 bits give you more access to gradation resolution in the brightest and darkest ranges of pixels. I have nostalgic feelings about, and shot, Hasselblad for a decade or so. 56mm x 56mm (2 1/5" x 2 1/5") real medium format. Next to 4" x 5", 8" x 10" and Nikon F_series (0.95" x 1.42"). Currently own a Z 7 with 4 Z-S primes (24 .. 85). With the Z, I found most exposures give excellent results when you switch on "measuring for the highlights". In the past, before Z, I would never shoot a "panorama" under any form of "auto", but "measuring for the highlights takes the averaging completely out of the "picture". (And it is the averaging of brightness across images that causes exposure differences when shooting series where the average changes.) Yes, I would love to have 16 bits native from the Z, but the sensor chip bakers at Sony Chip Company (a completely different operating company than Sony/Konica/Minolta Camera Company, separated from each other by Chinese walls under standards of business conduct and ethics, formally) have focused on integrations in their roadmap. The X1 with 16 bits can only do so by having an older completely passive sensor with proprietary 16 bits analog to digital conversion. My hope is, 32 bits (skip 16 that is better than 14, but 32 is even better than that) in Photoshop may solve the deficiency, if only by PS applying a mathematically simple decompression algorithm to the 14 bits. Especially when you sell precision prints where "gradation" is part of your primary livelihood, being able to influence gradation better, in more detail, the "more bits is better" applies. (Not addressing the dynamic range and bit depth of your printer driver, printer, paper - you'll have to experiment with how to sort that out. NOTE that 14 bits at 12 F-stops dynamic range gives better gradation resolution than 14 bits at 16 F-stops dynamic range - WITHIN THAT RANGE. The 32-bits can help you a lot here - with S-curves instead of linear and potentially separating color channels.)
A beautiful piece of design, but I'm not so sure Hasselblad as retained it's reputation as the pinnacle of medium format & quality that it undoubtedly held in the past... If I was in the market for digital medium format, I think I'd rather buy the Fujifilm GFX and a few lenses for the same (or less?) cost as the X1Dii.
i love my x1d, for sure, image quality is stellar, but as you said it s a specific tool for specific usage. for landscape and especially long exposure it s a dream camera, you can shoot 10 minutes or 1 hour exposure with no dark frame needed and no remote. But for everything else, i ll prefer my canon 1dx. If i have to keep only one camera, i wont keep the hasselblad, i ll keep a full frame versatile system.. good video, thumbs and subs !
this year, i bought my dream camera Leica M10-P + 50\1.4 Summilux *white* limited edition for $18,300K .... .... but still lusting for this X1Dii + 4/45P + 4/21 + 1.9/80 ..... and .... NOCT 58/0.95 + Z8 (next nixon body) .... & .... Canon R5 & R6 + 16-28/2 & 10-24/4 (in the pipeline) .... and .... Phase One XF150 IQ4 Achromatic + 1 leaf shutter & 1 plane shutter lens ......... thanks Matt
A grey day in Brighton, I enjoyed the video. "We are all photo gods" - how true. It's down to our imagination, skill and effort not the gear. We have fantastic choices at all price points, and the gear will only improve. Camera makers now have an incredibly fast feedback lop as their products move into the market with reviews, comparisons and blogs all pointing out the good and the bad of their products allowing the more receptive of them to take advantage and make improvements. Y
My favorite camera .... at the moment I would have to say the Nikon Z7. I still have a love affair with my old Chamonix 45N-1, although I rarely shoot it anymore; it's just too heavy to easily carry, as I'm now in my mid 60s.
@@MattIrwinPhotography It's a 5x4 made of walnut and carbon fibre, designed by a Chinese mountaineer. Rigid, but very lightweight. Unfortunately, it's the gear that goes with it that makes it so heavy; film holders, lenses, etc. :) I used to love using it, still have a freezer full of Velvia and Proviia.
I think the Z cams industrial design is right up there. I love the way they look and handle [no, i don't own one anymore]. You are absolutely right, different tools for different jobs. People take this stuff far too personally, they are just picture making tools. Get the right one for the job.
With every video of yours, I become more and more impressed. My ideal camera is probably the Nikon F2AS. When it comes to a camera body, I really like film. You don't have to buy a new body to keep up with technology. The technology regarding image quality came from the film and lens. As in using Nikon F2AS and a Nikkormat FT3 with the same lens and film would be no different. Ok to be honest the metering would probably be a little different. With that said, I'll probably never go back to film. I remember fighting with dust, film changes at the wrong moment, etc. I would love to get my hands on medium format digital camera as in Phase One or Hasselblad. So to answer your question, I'm at odds. I have a favorite camera but I only use it as a prop but I do keep it in perfect operating condition, just in case.
Thanks Clifford, well I do enjoy taking the Blad H4D for spin, you certainly could have a lot of fun picking one of those up 2nd hand and it still delivers stunning 16 bit quality. Cheers Matt
My fave cams are Leica Monochrom Leica Q Leica CL Fuji GFX blown away by proof roll from Hassy 500CM and May soon get X1D 11 because it looks good feels good and has superb IQ
Just got me a Z7 as a dealer offered a slightly used one for a quite good price and my loved D3 is becoming an old lady… I have a D3x as well which still provides good enough or more than enough image quality for most purposes… but I never really liked its’ outcomes compared to the D3 … anyway, now I am going to test the Z7 for a while, compare the files to my D3x and M240 … and then we will see. Maybe I’ll keep the Z7 or go on with the D3x. Whereas I very much prefer the great design of the Z7 but do not need most of its functions or the burst speed rate - couldn’t care less. And, as I still shoot a lot with film cameras I like my Leicas and Hasselblads in this field very, very much! The handling, the lenses … so I would as well very much like to test a digital Hasselblad… as I also like there design very much, and most photos I have seen taken with those cameras are gorgeous. Period. But… different purpose, different cameras. I would like to shoot a wedding or other celebration with the three: Leica M, Nikon Z7, Nikon D3 and Hasselblad XD… thanks for the video and always “good” light. Regards from Germany
Hasselblad is being a little sneaky with their specifications. That sensor is the same sensor that is in the Fuji GFX 50 series. It is a 14 bit sensor. They put out a 16 bit file in camera, but they only get 14 bits off the sensor. There's no reason why you should know this, since this was a simple "Hey, want to try my camera?" experience, not an in-depth investigation. I will say that it is a top quality 14bit sensor though!!! For the next level of quality, your friend really ought to look into the GFX100 with the 110 f2.0 or 120 f4.0 Macro lens. For art reproduction/documentation there is nothing at that price point that competes (around $14K US for body with lens). That is a true 16 bit (according to Sony who makes the sensor) and certainly the next level of quality. The Hassey does look sexy though. :) :)
Cheers DigitalGrease, indeed not a deep dive, that is cheeky of Hasselblad, do you have a link and I will pin it to the top of the comments for viewers to have more accurate info. Thanks so much. Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography There is a discussion on Luminous-Landscape that goes into great detail, I will put a link below, but I have clipped a small section here: =========================================== "Later generation CMOS sensors have moved the ADCs to the sensor. There is normally thousands of them, one for each column. This allows to use slow but precise converters. But it also means that the vendor of the sensor decides the number of bits and the Sony sensor used by Fuji and Hasselblad is a 14-bit device. The enclosed screen dump of the RawDigger histogram of a raw file from the X1D-50c clearly indicates that each fourth channel contains data. That the gaps also contain data indicates that some image manipulation has been done on the raw data. That could be flat field correction of the raw data, or simply some dither noise added. The second screen dump is coming from an Phase One IQ350 shot, courtesy of Digital Transitions. This shows no sign of postprocessing in raw. Phase One also claims 16 bit colour. The IQ 350 uses the same Sony sensor as the X1D-50c The last attachments shows the white patch on IQ 350 shot. It shows what a great spread of signal a single patch can have. Some of that may come from the rough surface of the patch, but most is coming from variation of incident photons. Best regards Erik" ============================================ The link to this discussion: forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=115890.0 There have been other discussions and arguments, but the fact is that the ADC (Analog to Digital Converter) is on the sensor silicon, designed and fabricated by Sony and sold to both Fuji and Hasselblad. That is pretty definitive even without the detailed analysis of people far more clever than I. As is usually the case with cheeky misdirection (whether in politics or camera marketing), getting the purveyor of such misdirection to admit anything is nearly impossible. :) :) PS: I love your work and your videos!
The big difference between Hasselblad and other brands, is that they calibrate each camera individually to let the 16 bit interpolation out of 14 bit native datas as precise as 16 bit native datas that are not individually calibrated. When I compare my Nikon or Leica against my X1D on the same subjects, I always have richer colors with the Hasselblad.
I've acquired the z7 a couple of weeks ago; if I had the money, I would absolutely rush in a store and grab the Hasselblad. Colour rendering is extraordinary... I'm perfectly happy with my z7, just saying...
13:00 min mark you wonder if the Hasselblad gets more in focus because of bigger glass and bigger sensor. What you are describing is depth of field. The larger the sensor, the shallower depth of field for a given angle of view. The depth of field of an 80/2.8 lens is going to be the same whether you put it on a 35mm or a 6x6 Hasselblad, it's just the field of view that changes. So no, there is not a greater depth of field at a given aperture with the hassleblad than with the nikon. What I'm seeing is greater clarity in the background with the Hasselblad which makes it seem like there's more depth of field. This could have to do with a number of variables - lens coatings, sharpening, contrast, white balance, etc... it could just be that the hasselblad renders fine details a little bit better and with more contrast and that makes the background just that much sharper than when shot with the nikon.
@@MattIrwinPhotography I've been shooting a lot of 645 film (Fuji Pro 400H) through a Fuji GA645 and Mamiya 645 - I love the format and love the extra tonality from 35mm. My main camera is a Nikon D750 which is a workhorse. Mostly use 35mm f2 AF-D or Tamron SP 45mm. I also use a Panasonic GX85 with 20mm pancake as a small discreet street shooter and Sigma DP Merills I use occasionally in the studio - Pain in the ass to use but the files are incredible even compared to a much more modern sensor like the one in the Nikon. I make a lot of large prints and love to travel so I've had my eyes on a Nikon Z7 for a while but from everything I've seen online, the bump up to digital medium format really makes a difference in color depth and tonality so I might just have to save up for that. Cheers and stay safe!
I am the proud owner of a new Z6, i settled on the Z6 because i want that Hybrid experience. If money were not an object and i wanted a Medium format, thats a hard choice, Hassellblad is outstanding, however the Fujifilm GFX looks interesting with its 102 megapixel sensor, i also dig fashion and beauty photography so maybe a Phase 1?
Look like maybe the extra detail in the distance on the side by side might just be because of the higher 16bit color depth. The Z7 seems to have phenomenal files . I have the d850 at the moment. If I had the budget I believe I’d get the Fujifilm GFX 100.
Great video Matt. I currently shoot a Z7 and D850 (which has not been used much for the past 15 months). I’m yet to use any Z lens. The reason I got the Z7 is I use Zeiss Milvus lens and the EVF is magic for manual focus. Dream camera is a Leica Q2 for its weight and IQ. Keep up the good work. I sent the video to a friend in France who has a X1D I will be interested in his response.
Thanks Dallas I will be interested too. I need to try the X1D is lower light higher ISO, to see how those larger photosites fare ... but I have to give it back ... see how I go before the lockdown. Cheers Matt
Of all the cameras I've owned to date, My favourite is the Sony A7R (first-generation). Much better than the 5D II I sold to buy the Sony and the 40D I had before that. I loved the A7R's image quality (especially in combination with Canon EF L lenses), its size, its weight and overal physical design (very portable and light!), the onboard manual focus aides (incl. Focus Peaking which, I believe, no full-frame camera had at the time). I did eventually sell it, owing to its limitations, including the ridiculously limited battery life, the lack of IBIS, the poor AF and the rather limited range of somewhat expensive native lenses. My second favourite camera owned was the Fuji X-T2. Again, I loved its size, its weight, its beautiful design, tactile manual controls, the very small and light weather resistant F2 lenses, I largely liked its image quality. I didn't care for its hot pixels, I wasn't very keen on its exaggerated rendition of reflected colour casts and occasional colour bleed, the worm-like noise which probably has more to do with LightRoom than with the sensor or the camera's processor. I bought the Sony A7R IV, but did return it after testing for a couple of weeks: too big, too heavy, the image quality was rather unimpressive (not wonder given sensor's pixel pitch). I frankly do prefer the A7R rendition. The Hasselblad X1D II is among My favourite cameras, owing to its visual appeal (superior to almost any camera's and matching the of Fuji's much smaller sensor X -series camera aesthetics), for its size and weight compared to heavy, bulky, ugly 54mm and larger standard, for its theoretical dynamic range, its elegant UI and the inclusion of a GPS (I wish all cameras had one built-in) and a leaf shutter. That said, the lack of IBIS and omission of movie modes competing with the best in full-frame and APS-C cameras would surely disappoint and cause Me to regret the purchase if I bought one. Not to mention the price, the size and weight of lenses. I think, the gorgeous X1D is the sort of a camera that you should have beside a "daily shooter".
@@MattIrwinPhotography You're welcome, Matt. 😊 The image noise was quite apparent even in many a low-ISO images. That was the main issue. I took some sample shots at various. ISOs and shot a target, then compared the results with Fuji X-T2 output (s shot at the same ISO. Granted, the object and the background were different) - the Fuji file was cleaner. Additionally, I didn't like the background rendition in images, shot with the A7R IV in combination with a Samyang 85mm F1.4 lens - must surely be the lens, but the radiation that I could use the diffidence between the A7R IV and A7R III acquisition price to subsidise (in a part) a purchase of the judging by all accounts excellent Sony 135mm F1.8 GM, also played a role. Furthermore, the AF is not nearly as efficient (and requires quite a bit of fine-tuning) as hyped. The microcontrast (probably more the lens than the sensor / processor combination) was also rather lacking compared to the A7R first-generation I shot with for 2-3 years before selling it. Imagine going High Pass sharpening: too low threshold - the image becomes barely sharper; too much of it - and it starts looking crude (the sharpening algorithms add crude contrast, without enhancing the fine detail). That's how pictures taken with it (in combination with the Samyang AF 85mm F1.8) looked. I haven't tested the IBIS properly, but my impression was that the claimed 5.5 stops is an exaggeration. 2, maybe 3, not 5.5. I also didn't care for its size and weight. While the A7R (and the Fuji with native lenses, in somewhat different ways) impressed me from the get-go by image output (coupled with Canon 70-200mm F2.8 IS L, 85mm F1.8, etc.) and body size and weight, the A7R IV only disappointed. Perhaps, my expectations were too high. I will refer you to a couple of snapshots I came across online that show how terrible the A7R IV output is. 12.800 ISO images that look like lowlight smartphone snapshots.
@@LeoInterHyenaem Thanks Leo, yes please send me a link, I would love to see the images. Well does this perhaps represent the end of the pixel wars in 35mm sensors? Cheers Matt
As much of a loyal Hasselblad fan and user I am. I have to say the Phase One XF with the IQ4 150MP is the current dream camera. Next would be the Hasselblad H6D-100c. I’ll throw in the Leica M9-P Hermes edition as here as well. Lol
Matt Irwin Photography I’m actually in the market for a new work camera to do portraiture, and beauty. But at the moment it’s the Leica M9 for most of my casual photos and the Hasselblad H5D-40 was my previous workhorse. I actually wanted to have a bit of chat with you about your experiences using the H4D-60 comparing to other cameras you have tried/owned. Would be awesome if you could hit me up a DM on IG at @projectriverground thanks Matt!
I don't know about the image quality but in terms of design this Hasselblad is miles ahead. The Japanese, with perhaps the exception of the folks at Fuji, could do well with some classes about camera design in Sweden for sure.
Hi, Matt. Interesting comparison. I, too, was surprised by the apparent difference between the Z7 and the X1D images you had side-by-side on 1st look. The X1D image has quite a bit more contrast - the bridge is significantly darker with less visible detail compared to the Z7 image while the water under the bridge is lighter on the X1D image versus the Z7 image. On 2nd look I see the Z7 is an (I assume) unprocessed raw (NEF) file whereas the X1D is a jpg processed with different software. Perhaps the contrast difference (and the background appearance) of the X1D image is a consequence of this. Do you think a processed Z7 raw would compare more favorably?
Hey Muvee, both files were RAW, contrast my have been my fault as I had been playing with the files prior to shooting, I never really planned on doing a side by side comparison, then they seem so similar pixel wise, I was surprised. That is how they ended up side by side. But definitely both RAW files we were looking at in the side by side. At a pixel level I thought the Z7 was better to be honest. Of course we all see different things. : ) Cheers Matt
Matt Irwin Photography OK. Thanks. At 11:30 in the video I saw 'Export degraves_0735.jpg' at the top of the Phocus window and mistook that for the displayed file. Sorry for (ahem) muddying up the water. 🙄
Life sized portraits, advertising & marketing images on a large scale, the capability does not come cheap, but if someone handed it to me & said revisit all those locations where interesting shots resulted,of course I would think about taking on the offer.
Matt Irwin Photography I’m using a Sony a7iii and a canon 1dx. And yes I’d love to see move videos with you using your Hasselblad. It would be greatly appreciated. I really enjoy your videos. Thank you 🙏🏽
Hi Matt! Very pleased to watch your videos, i watched the first one yesterday and the primary need for me when watching "reviews" is to not be forced liking something the story teller would like me to prefer. I look for informations, not for preferences, so i am usually ignoring the fanatics. I find in your video something neutral, something realistically explained, never trying to say "oh this is better than that WTF". Really appreciated. +1 Now, considering the topic of this video... i feel like people is weird in this minding. just couple of years ago, people was in the dream of owning a MF (44x33) camera. Before the X1D to come on the ground, photographers were dreaming for huge and big Hassy, Pentax 645, DSLRs in that range of weight, speed, ergonomics and overall, IQ. Now, it seems like MF is not anymore considered as a must to have, however the "dream" for most of the people could be a Huge and BIG Hassy or 645Z . People DOES NOT KNOW how good is an X1D only because the stream is spreading other brands, and that could be also a strategy from hasselblad to keep limited amount of pieces around (don't tink so, should be really crazy choice). The sensor is the same in the DSLRs from Hassy, the color science is the same than in any other HAssy, no way. I own an X1D 50C and i love everything i shoot with it, it's my final camera, with it's limits and outstanding qualities. i cannot believe anyone could choose an FF camera against this ML super ergonomics and super IQ + super lenses, setting the price apart. This is a "porn" camera, no way. thanks and sorry for annoying comment!
Just being curious, what type of SL? I'm currently thinking to purchase the mark1 as it's becomes yery 'affordable'. Doesn't mean I have the money yet. I need to sell my A9 and lenses first. Would you recommend the SL Type 601???
14:04 Hasseblad has much more detail as you can see in the city background, all colours that is just a smudge in Nikon image. Bigger sensor gives more light.
I have used the X1D (Version 1) for awhile now, I gotta saw the AWB on it is very good! Also the colors are very accurate, and need little editing (raw files), when you import them into Phocus or LR. Great video as always Matt!! You are selling me on the H4D-60 though! Haha :D
Just a consideration: the Hasselblad 120mm lens is a macro lens, that perform "well" even at infinite focus, but it is not its speciality. You should compare the same kinds of lenses on both cameras: both macro lenses or both standard lenses. I understand that that was what you got from your friend, maybe you should have tested the Hasselblad against a Nikon macro lens. Thank you anyway for the video
for portraits and landscape I would take hassy any time over z7... on 5K screen you should see some difference, maybe on YT video we can't see that difference so much.
The color may be just a tiny bit too saturated, but the color depth is absolutely stunning. I would do here the same comment as I did to another photographer and DP... we are not so much comparing a camera to another camera (eg Z7 vs X1D), as we are comparing (camera + lens) vs (camera + lens). That's where I don't know where credits is due. Take the D850 and the beloved 14-24mm f2.8 (I actually don't think it's great in modern age) and compare it the results to the N28 f1.4 (especially if stopped down at f2.8).. The two images taken will have nothing in comparison in terms of luminance/color depth and sharpness.. Same thing goes with a lens such as the N300 f2.8 stopped down at f4, I have never seen such depth and sharpness and in astrophotography it's very close to what you could get out of very specialized refractors. So is medium format better ? I would definitely expect so ! Especially in the recovery of shadows. Is it that much better than a FF with a great lens ? I genuinely wonder.
Just looking quickly at Z 85mm MTF: imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/z-mount/z_85mmf18s/spec.htm it looks much better (except in the corners) than the XCD 120 MTF: cdn.hasselblad.com/datasheets/xcd-lenses/XCD120-Datasheet-en.pdf . So I would expect the Z 85mm + Z7 to render as good if not better as the X1D if the sensors are of similar performance. 12:13: it's great that you are shooting at the same aperture ;) and it's good those 2 lenses have about the same number of elements (slight advantage XCD). 13:44 I do see more depth in the shadows and colors but I would be curious to see a comparison of the images after processing to match their histogram.. Any chance to get the raw images of those two images ? Dream camera: more in camera processing... imagine a DSLR/mirrorless that would stack multiple short exposures in the way the iphone does, to produce a single denoise & low light photo. DSLR/mirrorless are already doing great but only because of the much bigger lenses; why not combine both ?
I would totally go for the Z7 if I had the money. Definitely dont see a big enough difference in the hassleblad to warrant that kind of steep price. Nikon has done a superb job. One day I will be a part of the Z crew and I look forward to it. I have my own youtube channel and cover so many aspects of art and creating and hope that one day I can get to the caliber that you are at my friend. I have released videos every week and will continue to do so. I have found deep passion in sharing my knowledge and being a creator on youtube. Thank you for the motivation and direction and clear head you have given me. I will make a positive impact and change to the art and photography community, i am absolutely determined to make and share art just like you my friend. Anyhow, thank you again for all you do!
@@MattIrwinPhotography thanks alot Matt! Yeah i already lost my regular day job bc of this so i have been leveling up my portfolio of freelance services and hopefully i will land some good gigs soon. I am optimistic but i guess i have to be lol. You really have inspired me heavily and I love your commentary and watching you achieve your goals and go on this journey. Thanks for taking us along brother.
@@earthwalker4538 Thanks Shane, good luck. Indeed for us creatives in this current time, it is challenging, along with a chance for us to grow and shine. All the very best sir. Cheers Matt
What do you see in the Sony A7R III and IV which brings you to those conclusions, I own the A7R III, tell me what you see, would love to know : ) Cheers Matt
Sorry to step in here, but I like to put my 2 cents to your conversation. All these consumer cameras like Sony A7, A9 regardless what type, Nikon Z6 or 7 or Fujifilm H1, all of them have something in common : -they try to flood us with their versatility, their specs, speed, framer ates, resolution etc. What do I miss here : Pure image quality, Getting excited to take the gear in my hand, to hold it, to use it, I almost had this with the Panasonic G9 in terms of handling and speed., With the Sigma DP Quattro in terms of resolution and in terms of IQ and pop with the Sony RX1R mark1. The Hasselblad x1d II is very close to what I'm looking for. A better AF system, a much better battery life, and faster processor... And yes I would scratch all my money to go with this awesome peace of equipment. Form factor, ergonomics and resolution : please don't change it, it's just perfect
Tried out the X1D mk1 - loved the great images - hated the Camera. The Mk 2 isn't quite as bad as the Mk1. DJI should have asked Fuji to make them like the fantastic H series. All high level cameras should be 16 bit. I'd like to know how many of the lenses were converted from the H series cameras?. You should use a colorchecker passport. Sensor size does not effect depth of field - only Aperture, distance and focal length do along with coc of coarse.
For the money they certainly should be. I have now found out the X1D is not true 16 bit, which is disappointing ... perhaps version III. Dream Camera? Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography Unlike the Hasselblad H cameras - the X1H cameras are only converted to 16 bit The next gen Nikon Z is promised to be 16 bit. The X1H is a pretty camera.
Great channel Matt. I really enjoy the material you produce. I have just ordered the Z6 ii and the Z7 ii as upgrades to my Z6 and Z7 which are perfect for me and my use cases and hence the ii’s are hopefully my dream cameras :). Best wishes from Sweden.
For most of my shooting style, I'd like a D500 Mark II, in a Z 50 body (OK, Z7 body if you need that size to weather seal and make it tough as a tank). I need FAST auto focus (Z7 and Z50 just don't cut it in that department). Don't really need much more that 20MP, but I wouldn't say no to a few more..... But, using the Z camera's really make my D500 seem old and clunky - and my old Pentax bodies really old school!
I wonder if you go back to the street scene with both cameras and compare the pictures, how much of a difference would you see? I can see some use for the pictures I take, mainly wildlife and nature, but it wouldn't be useful for the pictures of the owls or other birds but the flowers on the way back to the car it would seem to be great.
my dream camera would be a Mamiya 6 or 7 digital with a 6x7 (6x6) cm sensor and about 50mpx. I even don´t need a menu built in. Because of the possibility focusing on a screen the only change to the old Mamiya 7 I really need is much closer focusing capabilities. I need fully manual exposing, AE and nothing more. I perfectly could live with the form of the old Mamiyas although I have to admit that the body of the Hassy, especially the grip is the best I had on any camera. Unfortunately this camera probably never will happen. As a Nikon Z shooter I hope for a successor with 16bit files and please don't give me more megapixels than Z7! Cheers
Hi Matt, again greetings from the other side of the planet! WOW, what colours at plus/minus 8:30. Are those 16 bit colours sooc or after edit in Phocus? The X1D has the same sensor as Fuji GFX 50S and 50R, both deliver 16 bit RAW, the RAF of Fuji is supposed to be best ever. I once read somewhere a very interesting scientific article on different raw files, if you want me to, I’ll gonna search for it, afai can remember, Hasselblad and Phase One are not covered. However, biggest difference between Hasselblad and GFX is central shutter (leaf shutter) in Hasselblad vs focal plane shutter in GFX. This offers the opportunity of flash sync down to 1/2000 sec on Hasselblad without the need of HSS flash system. FYC: all Fuji X100 also have central shutter. Because I can’t compare myself, it would be nice, if you could make some raw files X1D and of your own Hasselblad available for download, I’d really appreciate!
If I had the money, yes I’d have one. I’d also have a couple of Leica, m and sl2, and both phase ones. Love my Nikon d850 and would keep that and buy a z8. Would be first in line for hassle X1d 100 mp. But would have to hit the lottery to buy any new camera. I love photography but also gear and researching gear. Maybe I should be a vlogger?
At that price way over rated you would have to be a special rich pro to need or want that. I think a way better choice would be a GFX 100 if you really need mediam format. Go Nikon😄👍thanks Matt.
Very interesting video and comparison, Matt! As a landscape and product photogapher moving into the Z7 from a Fuji X-T3 kit, I believe that the combo of FF and 46MP will be enough of a vast improvement in overall detail and image quality in large prints, that I don't "Need" MF. Plus the fact that those 46MP NEF files will tax my computer system quite enough anyway. :-) Besides, aren't the new Z mount lenses, like the 50 /f4 S for example, ultra-sharp too? For my use cases, I certainly think the Z7 files are more than sufficient. Thanks again!
Nice video, thank you. BTW $10,700 for the X1D2 and 135mm but with the 45p it would be $7,000... much closer. I own the X1D2 and, like other tech purchases I rationalize the price for getting what I consider the best possible tehnical quality and user experience. Just me. :)
I think Hasselblad's strength is color, the accuracy, richness, contrast and transition of color give the images the unique look. So comparing two rather monochromatic sample images really does not do justice to the potential of the cameras.
Not that the equivalent F stop is only with regards to depth of field - an image size doesn't change the amount of light gathered. Medium Format would be awesome to play with :P
Larger sensors allow for larger pixels which are more sensitive to light and thus need less signal gain and thus produces less noise. Such is the advantage of larger format sensors in producing more detail. The just produce cleaner images.
Matt if you were truly serious about trying out and comparing the best you wouldn't be referring to a Hasselblad at all anymore. You would know that nothing in the market compares or can compete currently to the Phase One IQ4 and it's 150 million pixel sensor and crafted blue ring lenses. Even the Fujifilm GFX range in my humble experience runs rings around anything the blad can, aesthetics aren't everything Matt.
I’d love to own this Hasselblad X1D II. It’s my dream camera.
Awesome Raw, and it will deliver on that dream I am sure. Cheers Matt
My dream too as I had one in my hands at photocina2018, currently I own a A9 and also consider a Leica SL(best EVF), as of now I had about 15 different types of cameras, but the best look and IQ has the Sony RX1R mark1 delivered. My A9 is 10x faster and has 100 more menu options but does not deliver that quality, any thought on that??
My favourite camera is the Z7. I've been shooting landscapes with crop censor cameras for 4 years so until recently I've never had the privilege of using a "full frame" camera.
Look at this like I did. Hasselblad - Stylish unit with heritage, gorgeous optics - leaf shutter +50MPX. Optics cost more than some people pay for their cars. 50MPX - most are going this way now. No flippy screen. SLR style but no extra grip - even if just for the extra battery performance. Hot shoe but no dedicated flash unit available. I went for Fujifilm GFX 50S for all those reasons above. Pricewise if you chose two Hass optics with an X1D you could afford the GFX100 and a kit lens.
I'll echo the previous comments. Balanced and logical presentations from an image maker that walks the walk. Makes a change from those that just talk the talk. Top guy.
Thanks Alan. :)
You were forgiving in your comments. The Z7 is a great camera. The Hasselblad image had layers of better quality, though, over the Z7 - background detail and clarity were extraordinary and the image color(grey vs pulling out blues and reds) seemed if not accurate, mood enhancing (this may be different post-prod of not sooc). The cost of the Hasselblad is prohibitive (for me) and it does seem with more experimentation with lens and focal length, it may be possible to get even closer in image quality with the Z7. Its all fun.
The only reason to go with the X1Ds is the leaf shutter if you use flash, If you don't, go with Fujifilm GX100S that have a true 16-bit sensor. It will focus instantly on that boat far out at sea and have excellent image stabilization, but sadly no leaf shutter lenses. So your finding that the Z7 and the X1D are very similar is no surprise.
Cheers Uno, what is your dream camera ? Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography Whatever camera that gets the job done. I hope it's the Sony A7r iv, as I have just ordered one together with a 400/2.8 that I hope will get me a better keeper rate on birds and wildlife on dark Scandinavian winter mornings and less sore arms and back than my old, much heavier, Nikon kit.
Dream Camera right now...Fujifilm GFX100. It's quality is amazing!
Yeah awesome Shane, I would love to give it a spin too. One day :) What is your goto camera in 2020? Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography Z6 mainly and still rocking my D810 when I need the 36MP or 3D focus tracking, but it's mostly collecting dust. I would also say that the AF on the D810 is only moderately better than the Z6 for fast moving subjects. The D850 is a signifcantly better at AF and was going to be my next upgrade up until the Z bodies were released. I struggled with the decision to jump to Z body and nearly bought the Z7 instead of the Z6. But, honestly the D810 worked wonderfully, so I decided on the Z6 for the improved video quality over what the DSLR's were providing and ended up actually purchasing the Z6 filmmakers kit. I love it. In addition to the 24-70f4 kit lens, I've purchased the 24-70f2.8 (beautiful lens) and the 14-30f4 (also fabulous). I use my f-mount 85f1.4 with it all the time and get better results than on the D810. This system is awesome and I'm looking forward to the future. Perhaps I can retire my D810 with a Z8 or Z9 in the next year or so???
The Hasselblad is definitely capturing more details in the background. The skyscrapers are much sharper. You can see the different floors more clearly. My dream camera is the EOS R5. It is a jack of all trades with precise AF. Canon's is also doing a good job of producing exotic lenses like the new RF 100 macro and the upcoming RF TS lenses that I use for my line of work.
It's funny, when watching your videos, I keep forgetting that you're not a major youtuber (hate that word, but in terms of subscribers) because the quality of content is outstanding - and you're very good at communicating knowledge/information at the same time. It's a winning combination for me.
7,8k subs is absurd to me, you deserve 100k+ easily! It will surely come as more people discover your channel though. Keep it up!
Thanks so much mismis888, means a lot. As they say all good things take time. And I am confident we will get to that point and beyond. What camera are you creating with in 2020? Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography Hey! I currently own a trusty old D600 which honestly still does a really solid job - and then I'm lucky enough to work in a camera shop, meaning I can borrow a heap of things I wouldn't be able to afford, which means right now I'm testing an EOS R with canons rf 50 1.2, perfect for some night time street shots! 😉
Yeah definitely deserves more subs, and they'll come no doubt about it!
It's usually always the same, the small channel stays small for a while, but it seems like one day things just pick up and people start flooding to channels with good content, and then the growth is really fast. keep it up Matt :)
Hi Matt thanks for the vid. If money was no object I would buy a Hasselblad, just to be able to use it when circumstances demand. As my budget is limited I make do with my Z6 and Canon 90d. They are good enough for me
i'll not going to give up my Z 6 !!! with all respect to yours Hasselblad X1D II !!!!
Brilliant as usual and one of the best youtube Channels with thought provoking commentary and should have a higher subscriber base.
Cheers A Th. All good things take time :). Thanks Matt
Dear Matt, firstly, I really like your "Call Out Titles/Motion Track text"; 1:28. When revealing specs on X1D and Z7 -Really clever and that deserves a tutorial in and of, itself. I also noted that the inbuilt audio on the Z50 was really "great". (Subsequent video I realise )The X1D II is phenomenal when it comes to details, it's just mind blowing. My dream camera is simply the Z6 because of the video capabilities and still images with a 20mm f.1.8. That's as much as I can dream at the moment. Thanks for another great comparison video. Pete
Dream system - X1D Mark 11 50c, and XCD 21 f/4, xcd 35-70 3,5-4.5 IF budget weren't an issue. BUT it sure is so it is a DREAM!
I’ve rented both of these cameras in the past month. The images out of the X1D are very nice. The process of getting those pictures is another story. The Hasselblad is slow and has a primitive metering system as compared to the Z7. Between these two I’d take the Nikon. I’m testing a Fuji GFX 50s this next week. It will really have to Wow me. I really like the Z7. I’m looking for a mirrorless D850 replacement.
I can see the difference is big, you can see the dynamic range is better on the hassy, love that hassy, own the Z6,D800, H4-60, and by far, the best camera I have had is my Hasselblad 500CM, Amazing camera, there is no comparison, image quality day and night from full frame to Medium Format, Love your videos, keep it up!
My dream camera was the Leica M10-P, which I now have. It brings a refreshing simplicity and circumspection to my photography that I missed with today's do-it-all-for-you (almost) cameras. The technological marvels have their place for sure, but so do Leicas and Hasselblads. That's the beauty of photography. Now, I am thinking of a second hand Hasselblad H series digital for my future grail camera.
Wow Brian, as in like my old H4D? I can certainly say mine is amazing. I will make some more vids with it soon. Cheers Matt
somewhat later - I just got a Hasselblad X2D which is another level again. Gorgeous ! Would love your thoughts Matt. Cheers!
I own the Nikon D850 and I own the Hasselblad X1D II system. These systems are not the same and they do no compare! I love both and guess what all my Nikon lenses and lighting equipment work with my Hasselblad :)
I found they have some similarities, I do love found that X1D2 capable to use Nikon flash full functionality even the TTL function
Hi ..! From the pictures you show, it seems to be clear the difference between the Z7 and the X1D II is so tinny the its hard to tell , and so the Nikon is in general a much practical option . What are your thoughts now a day about ..? What about the Canon R5 ..? Ive recently tried a R5 and I've seen the images are big , but the quality is not the same as the pictures of a Pentax 645 Z which I work with . Regards .
I see the Hassy as an esoteric product. Bit like a Porsche take it out for a spin on a Sunday put a smile on your face have some lunch. But on Monday I’m back in my Hyundai.
I have acquired a few cameras and I enjoy their various attributes. To me there is no such thing as the “one”.
Know what the camera & lenses can do for You and dont try to find faults with it.
Personally I’d go for a Fuji GFXr and a couple of lenses, if I wanted to dabble in the large sensor sector.
Cheers
Really good Matt, thanks..I have my dream camera, a Rolleiflex 2.8f. Just awesome medium format camera and beautiful to boot. For digital, my Z7 is perfect as well.
Ah lovely Bill, what is your Fav Z lens? Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography has to be my 50 f/1.8, just an awesome prime lens.
Bill McCarroll I was never inspired5 by that focal length until I bought this lens. Couldn’t agree more (although I’d love to try out the 85 mm, as well as longer focal lengths to come, and of course the new 20 mm)
Probably the Leica SL2 is the option for me. For now, the Nikon Z6 is my camera and I love it.
I honestly just want the Nikon Z 6 or the Z 7!! I think that would be amazing!
I reckon it will bring a smile to your dial :) Cheers Matt
I've owned, and used, two different samples of the X1D. I found that they were not the most reliable things I've ever used (I got several "lens not attached" messages, when the lens was very much attached) and the battery life was poor. On the flip side, it was a beautiful camera to actually shoot with, and when you really nailed a shot, it took your breath away. Definitely a curate's egg of a camera, but even now I've considered finding a reasonably priced used one and giving it another shot.
Nice video. Really. Interesting questions and food for thought. So here are a couple thinking aloud thoughts.
1. Megapixels are an area (2nd degree) thing and detail resolution is perceived linearly (1st degree). When we compare diagonal resolution in pixels, we have a good prediction of how we are able to see the difference. Anything under 50% when you start very good, is difficult to see. 2. That Hasselblad is small format in my book (being significantly under 45mm x56mm). 3. When you compared the two shots around 11:00 my question was, what profile settings you used. "Yes but I shot raw," you may say. Yes, and I found out that the "Flat" profile, at least in video" gives a different "raw" movie result. E.g. it has little sharpening applied in camera. We have to understand that a "raw" file is actually "well done" in cooking terms. A sensor has no "RGB" and pixels are the result of computation. Also, this Z 7 sensor is ISO invariant and has two gain levels: base gain from lowest to 400 ISO and hi-gain starts above that (I am certain about 800 ISO). If you want to compare the Z 7 with the X1, you might want to set the Z 7 to 800 ISO to get access to hi-gain amplification of the sensor. Also, 64 ISO may not be the "best "native" sensor value in that it reduces dynamic range. There is a lot to figure out here that is not in the user guide nor the reference manual - IMO these documents are written by people with zero understanding of photography and how a digital product relates to that. 4. I wonder what Capture One 20 does with Nikon Z 7 firmware version 3 raw files and my expectation (prejudice) is, not the optimal approach. I would like to see both these images converted to 32-bit in Photoshop and have some processing applied to see the difference. The 32 bits give you more access to gradation resolution in the brightest and darkest ranges of pixels.
I have nostalgic feelings about, and shot, Hasselblad for a decade or so. 56mm x 56mm (2 1/5" x 2 1/5") real medium format. Next to 4" x 5", 8" x 10" and Nikon F_series (0.95" x 1.42"). Currently own a Z 7 with 4 Z-S primes (24 .. 85).
With the Z, I found most exposures give excellent results when you switch on "measuring for the highlights". In the past, before Z, I would never shoot a "panorama" under any form of "auto", but "measuring for the highlights takes the averaging completely out of the "picture". (And it is the averaging of brightness across images that causes exposure differences when shooting series where the average changes.)
Yes, I would love to have 16 bits native from the Z, but the sensor chip bakers at Sony Chip Company (a completely different operating company than Sony/Konica/Minolta Camera Company, separated from each other by Chinese walls under standards of business conduct and ethics, formally) have focused on integrations in their roadmap. The X1 with 16 bits can only do so by having an older completely passive sensor with proprietary 16 bits analog to digital conversion. My hope is, 32 bits (skip 16 that is better than 14, but 32 is even better than that) in Photoshop may solve the deficiency, if only by PS applying a mathematically simple decompression algorithm to the 14 bits. Especially when you sell precision prints where "gradation" is part of your primary livelihood, being able to influence gradation better, in more detail, the "more bits is better" applies. (Not addressing the dynamic range and bit depth of your printer driver, printer, paper - you'll have to experiment with how to sort that out. NOTE that 14 bits at 12 F-stops dynamic range gives better gradation resolution than 14 bits at 16 F-stops dynamic range - WITHIN THAT RANGE. The 32-bits can help you a lot here - with S-curves instead of linear and potentially separating color channels.)
A beautiful piece of design, but I'm not so sure Hasselblad as retained it's reputation as the pinnacle of medium format & quality that it undoubtedly held in the past... If I was in the market for digital medium format, I think I'd rather buy the Fujifilm GFX and a few lenses for the same (or less?) cost as the X1Dii.
i love my x1d, for sure, image quality is stellar, but as you said it s a specific tool for specific usage. for landscape and especially long exposure it s a dream camera, you can shoot 10 minutes or 1 hour exposure with no dark frame needed and no remote. But for everything else, i ll prefer my canon 1dx. If i have to keep only one camera, i wont keep the hasselblad, i ll keep a full frame versatile system.. good video, thumbs and subs !
this year, i bought my dream camera Leica M10-P + 50\1.4 Summilux *white* limited edition for $18,300K ....
.... but still lusting for this X1Dii + 4/45P + 4/21 + 1.9/80 ..... and .... NOCT 58/0.95 + Z8 (next nixon body) .... & .... Canon R5 & R6 + 16-28/2 & 10-24/4 (in the pipeline) ....
and .... Phase One XF150 IQ4 Achromatic + 1 leaf shutter & 1 plane shutter lens ......... thanks Matt
A grey day in Brighton, I enjoyed the video. "We are all photo gods" - how true. It's down to our imagination, skill and effort not the gear. We have fantastic choices at all price points, and the gear will only improve. Camera makers now have an incredibly fast feedback lop as their products move into the market with reviews, comparisons and blogs all pointing out the good and the bad of their products allowing the more receptive of them to take advantage and make improvements. Y
Maaan [Matt] the Hassy photos U showed in comparison blew me away! And I m a very happy owner of a Z7 with premium S glasses. Truth [is] to be told..
My favorite camera .... at the moment I would have to say the Nikon Z7. I still have a love affair with my old Chamonix 45N-1, although I rarely shoot it anymore; it's just too heavy to easily carry, as I'm now in my mid 60s.
Awesome Robert, tell me more about the Chamonix 45N-1, cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography It's a 5x4 made of walnut and carbon fibre, designed by a Chinese mountaineer. Rigid, but very lightweight. Unfortunately, it's the gear that goes with it that makes it so heavy; film holders, lenses, etc. :) I used to love using it, still have a freezer full of Velvia and Proviia.
I have the Chamonix F1 made of Teak and carbon fiber. I shoot it all the time :)
I think the Z cams industrial design is right up there. I love the way they look and handle [no, i don't own one anymore]. You are absolutely right, different tools for different jobs. People take this stuff far too personally, they are just picture making tools. Get the right one for the job.
With every video of yours, I become more and more impressed. My ideal camera is probably the Nikon F2AS. When it comes to a camera body, I really like film. You don't have to buy a new body to keep up with technology. The technology regarding image quality came from the film and lens. As in using Nikon F2AS and a Nikkormat FT3 with the same lens and film would be no different. Ok to be honest the metering would probably be a little different. With that said, I'll probably never go back to film. I remember fighting with dust, film changes at the wrong moment, etc. I would love to get my hands on medium format digital camera as in Phase One or Hasselblad. So to answer your question, I'm at odds. I have a favorite camera but I only use it as a prop but I do keep it in perfect operating condition, just in case.
Thanks Clifford, well I do enjoy taking the Blad H4D for spin, you certainly could have a lot of fun picking one of those up 2nd hand and it still delivers stunning 16 bit quality. Cheers Matt
My fave cams are Leica Monochrom Leica Q Leica CL Fuji GFX blown away by proof roll from Hassy 500CM and May soon get X1D 11 because it looks good feels good and has superb IQ
16bit forever love your vids
Thanks :) more 16 bit coming soon (ish)
Thanks 🙏It will be nice to test your H4D-60 with this new beauty from the same manufacturer.
Yeah Julio, sadly i had to give the X1D back, perhaps I can ask again to borrow it. :) Cheers Matt
Just got me a Z7 as a dealer offered a slightly used one for a quite good price and my loved D3 is becoming an old lady… I have a D3x as well which still provides good enough or more than enough image quality for most purposes… but I never really liked its’ outcomes compared to the D3 … anyway, now I am going to test the Z7 for a while, compare the files to my D3x and M240 … and then we will see.
Maybe I’ll keep the Z7 or go on with the D3x. Whereas I very much prefer the great design of the Z7 but do not need most of its functions or the burst speed rate - couldn’t care less. And, as I still shoot a lot with film cameras I like my Leicas and Hasselblads in this field very, very much! The handling, the lenses … so I would as well very much like to test a digital Hasselblad… as I also like there design very much, and most photos I have seen taken with those cameras are gorgeous. Period. But… different purpose, different cameras. I would like to shoot a wedding or other celebration with the three: Leica M, Nikon Z7, Nikon D3 and Hasselblad XD… thanks for the video and always “good” light. Regards from Germany
Hasselblad is being a little sneaky with their specifications. That sensor is the same sensor that is in the Fuji GFX 50 series. It is a 14 bit sensor. They put out a 16 bit file in camera, but they only get 14 bits off the sensor. There's no reason why you should know this, since this was a simple "Hey, want to try my camera?" experience, not an in-depth investigation. I will say that it is a top quality 14bit sensor though!!! For the next level of quality, your friend really ought to look into the GFX100 with the 110 f2.0 or 120 f4.0 Macro lens. For art reproduction/documentation there is nothing at that price point that competes (around $14K US for body with lens). That is a true 16 bit (according to Sony who makes the sensor) and certainly the next level of quality. The Hassey does look sexy though. :) :)
Cheers DigitalGrease, indeed not a deep dive, that is cheeky of Hasselblad, do you have a link and I will pin it to the top of the comments for viewers to have more accurate info. Thanks so much. Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography There is a discussion on Luminous-Landscape that goes into great detail, I will put a link below, but I have clipped a small section here:
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"Later generation CMOS sensors have moved the ADCs to the sensor. There is normally thousands of them, one for each column. This allows to use slow but precise converters. But it also means that the vendor of the sensor decides the number of bits and the Sony sensor used by Fuji and Hasselblad is a 14-bit device.
The enclosed screen dump of the RawDigger histogram of a raw file from the X1D-50c clearly indicates that each fourth channel contains data. That the gaps also contain data indicates that some image manipulation has been done on the raw data. That could be flat field correction of the raw data, or simply some dither noise added.
The second screen dump is coming from an Phase One IQ350 shot, courtesy of Digital Transitions. This shows no sign of postprocessing in raw. Phase One also claims 16 bit colour. The IQ 350 uses the same Sony sensor as the X1D-50c
The last attachments shows the white patch on IQ 350 shot. It shows what a great spread of signal a single patch can have. Some of that may come from the rough surface of the patch, but most is coming from variation of incident photons.
Best regards
Erik"
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The link to this discussion:
forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=115890.0
There have been other discussions and arguments, but the fact is that the ADC (Analog to Digital Converter) is on the sensor silicon, designed and fabricated by Sony and sold to both Fuji and Hasselblad. That is pretty definitive even without the detailed analysis of people far more clever than I.
As is usually the case with cheeky misdirection (whether in politics or camera marketing), getting the purveyor of such misdirection to admit anything is nearly impossible. :) :)
PS:
I love your work and your videos!
The big difference between Hasselblad and other brands, is that they calibrate each camera individually to let the 16 bit interpolation out of 14 bit native datas as precise as 16 bit native datas that are not individually calibrated.
When I compare my Nikon or Leica against my X1D on the same subjects, I always have richer colors with the Hasselblad.
Favorite camera Nikon D780
Awesome Nathaniel, do you have one, if so tell me about it? Cheers Matt
My dream camera would be a D850 with IBIS and focus points to the edge of the full frame!
Basically Z7 huhh?
I've acquired the z7 a couple of weeks ago; if I had the money, I would absolutely rush in a store and grab the Hasselblad. Colour rendering is extraordinary... I'm perfectly happy with my z7, just saying...
13:00 min mark you wonder if the Hasselblad gets more in focus because of bigger glass and bigger sensor. What you are describing is depth of field. The larger the sensor, the shallower depth of field for a given angle of view. The depth of field of an 80/2.8 lens is going to be the same whether you put it on a 35mm or a 6x6 Hasselblad, it's just the field of view that changes. So no, there is not a greater depth of field at a given aperture with the hassleblad than with the nikon.
What I'm seeing is greater clarity in the background with the Hasselblad which makes it seem like there's more depth of field. This could have to do with a number of variables - lens coatings, sharpening, contrast, white balance, etc... it could just be that the hasselblad renders fine details a little bit better and with more contrast and that makes the background just that much sharper than when shot with the nikon.
Thanks so much for your thoughts Marc. What are you shooting on in 2020?
@@MattIrwinPhotography I've been shooting a lot of 645 film (Fuji Pro 400H) through a Fuji GA645 and Mamiya 645 - I love the format and love the extra tonality from 35mm. My main camera is a Nikon D750 which is a workhorse. Mostly use 35mm f2 AF-D or Tamron SP 45mm. I also use a Panasonic GX85 with 20mm pancake as a small discreet street shooter and Sigma DP Merills I use occasionally in the studio - Pain in the ass to use but the files are incredible even compared to a much more modern sensor like the one in the Nikon. I make a lot of large prints and love to travel so I've had my eyes on a Nikon Z7 for a while but from everything I've seen online, the bump up to digital medium format really makes a difference in color depth and tonality so I might just have to save up for that. Cheers and stay safe!
I am the proud owner of a new Z6, i settled on the Z6 because i want that Hybrid experience. If money were not an object and i wanted a Medium format, thats a hard choice, Hassellblad is outstanding, however the Fujifilm GFX looks interesting with its 102 megapixel sensor, i also dig fashion and beauty photography so maybe a Phase 1?
You have very fine taste : ) Cheers Matt
Look like maybe the extra detail in the distance on the side by side might just be because of the higher 16bit color depth. The Z7 seems to have phenomenal files . I have the d850 at the moment. If I had the budget I believe I’d get the Fujifilm GFX 100.
Great video Matt. I currently shoot a Z7 and D850 (which has not been used much for the past 15 months). I’m yet to use any Z lens. The reason I got the Z7 is I use Zeiss Milvus lens and the EVF is magic for manual focus. Dream camera is a Leica Q2 for its weight and IQ. Keep up the good work. I sent the video to a friend in France who has a X1D I will be interested in his response.
Thanks Dallas I will be interested too. I need to try the X1D is lower light higher ISO, to see how those larger photosites fare ... but I have to give it back ... see how I go before the lockdown. Cheers Matt
Did you try manual focus compared to automatic focus on the Hasselblad X1D II.
As a landscape shooter I'm loving my D850. For now it's doing everything I need.
Of all the cameras I've owned to date, My favourite is the Sony A7R (first-generation). Much better than the 5D II I sold to buy the Sony and the 40D I had before that. I loved the A7R's image quality (especially in combination with Canon EF L lenses), its size, its weight and overal physical design (very portable and light!), the onboard manual focus aides (incl. Focus Peaking which, I believe, no full-frame camera had at the time). I did eventually sell it, owing to its limitations, including the ridiculously limited battery life, the lack of IBIS, the poor AF and the rather limited range of somewhat expensive native lenses.
My second favourite camera owned was the Fuji X-T2. Again, I loved its size, its weight, its beautiful design, tactile manual controls, the very small and light weather resistant F2 lenses, I largely liked its image quality. I didn't care for its hot pixels, I wasn't very keen on its exaggerated rendition of reflected colour casts and occasional colour bleed, the worm-like noise which probably has more to do with LightRoom than with the sensor or the camera's processor.
I bought the Sony A7R IV, but did return it after testing for a couple of weeks: too big, too heavy, the image quality was rather unimpressive (not wonder given sensor's pixel pitch). I frankly do prefer the A7R rendition.
The Hasselblad X1D II is among My favourite cameras, owing to its visual appeal (superior to almost any camera's and matching the of Fuji's much smaller sensor X -series camera aesthetics), for its size and weight compared to heavy, bulky, ugly 54mm and larger standard, for its theoretical dynamic range, its elegant UI and the inclusion of a GPS (I wish all cameras had one built-in) and a leaf shutter. That said, the lack of IBIS and omission of movie modes competing with the best in full-frame and APS-C cameras would surely disappoint and cause Me to regret the purchase if I bought one. Not to mention the price, the size and weight of lenses. I think, the gorgeous X1D is the sort of a camera that you should have beside a "daily shooter".
Thanks for sharing Leo. And very well said. Interesting feedback on the A7r iv. What did you find was wrong with the picture quality? Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography You're welcome, Matt. 😊 The image noise was quite apparent even in many a low-ISO images. That was the main issue.
I took some sample shots at various. ISOs and shot a target, then compared the results with Fuji X-T2 output (s shot at the same ISO. Granted, the object and the background were different) - the Fuji file was cleaner.
Additionally, I didn't like the background rendition in images, shot with the A7R IV in combination with a Samyang 85mm F1.4 lens - must surely be the lens, but the radiation that I could use the diffidence between the A7R IV and A7R III acquisition price to subsidise (in a part) a purchase of the judging by all accounts excellent Sony 135mm F1.8 GM, also played a role.
Furthermore, the AF is not nearly as efficient (and requires quite a bit of fine-tuning) as hyped.
The microcontrast (probably more the lens than the sensor / processor combination) was also rather lacking compared to the A7R first-generation I shot with for 2-3 years before selling it. Imagine going High Pass sharpening: too low threshold - the image becomes barely sharper; too much of it - and it starts looking crude (the sharpening algorithms add crude contrast, without enhancing the fine detail). That's how pictures taken with it (in combination with the Samyang AF 85mm F1.8) looked.
I haven't tested the IBIS properly, but my impression was that the claimed 5.5 stops is an exaggeration. 2, maybe 3, not 5.5.
I also didn't care for its size and weight. While the A7R (and the Fuji with native lenses, in somewhat different ways) impressed me from the get-go by image output (coupled with Canon 70-200mm F2.8 IS L, 85mm F1.8, etc.) and body size and weight, the A7R IV only disappointed. Perhaps, my expectations were too high.
I will refer you to a couple of snapshots I came across online that show how terrible the A7R IV output is. 12.800 ISO images that look like lowlight smartphone snapshots.
@@LeoInterHyenaem Thanks Leo, yes please send me a link, I would love to see the images. Well does this perhaps represent the end of the pixel wars in 35mm sensors? Cheers Matt
The 120mm Hasselblad is a specialist macro lens, known to be less optimal for distant work.
As much of a loyal Hasselblad fan and user I am. I have to say the Phase One XF with the IQ4 150MP is the current dream camera. Next would be the Hasselblad H6D-100c. I’ll throw in the Leica M9-P Hermes edition as here as well. Lol
Howdy Matz, you only like the cheap stuff ; ) , great choices. What is your goto camera in 2020? Cheers Matt
Matt Irwin Photography I’m actually in the market for a new work camera to do portraiture, and beauty. But at the moment it’s the Leica M9 for most of my casual photos and the Hasselblad H5D-40 was my previous workhorse. I actually wanted to have a bit of chat with you about your experiences using the H4D-60 comparing to other cameras you have tried/owned. Would be awesome if you could hit me up a DM on IG at @projectriverground thanks Matt!
your friend should've got gfx 100. initial cost of the body is twice as much but lenses are a lot cheaper than hassle.
Yep we talked about it. I think he went for the brand, not sure. What are you creating with in 2020? Cheers Matt
I don't know about the image quality but in terms of design this Hasselblad is miles ahead. The Japanese, with perhaps the exception of the folks at Fuji, could do well with some classes about camera design in Sweden for sure.
I agree it is beautiful. 😀
Hi, Matt. Interesting comparison. I, too, was surprised by the apparent difference between the Z7 and the X1D images you had side-by-side on 1st look. The X1D image has quite a bit more contrast - the bridge is significantly darker with less visible detail compared to the Z7 image while the water under the bridge is lighter on the X1D image versus the Z7 image. On 2nd look I see the Z7 is an (I assume) unprocessed raw (NEF) file whereas the X1D is a jpg processed with different software. Perhaps the contrast difference (and the background appearance) of the X1D image is a consequence of this. Do you think a processed Z7 raw would compare more favorably?
Hey Muvee, both files were RAW, contrast my have been my fault as I had been playing with the files prior to shooting, I never really planned on doing a side by side comparison, then they seem so similar pixel wise, I was surprised. That is how they ended up side by side. But definitely both RAW files we were looking at in the side by side. At a pixel level I thought the Z7 was better to be honest. Of course we all see different things. : ) Cheers Matt
Matt Irwin Photography OK. Thanks. At 11:30 in the video I saw 'Export degraves_0735.jpg' at the top of the Phocus window and mistook that for the displayed file. Sorry for (ahem) muddying up the water. 🙄
Dream Camera...Nikon .Pro Body Z8..Sorry I know it's not gonna happen...but I can dream while in quarantine
I love my Nikon Z7 with Nikon Z 50mm 1,8 Goodby's.(From Italy Renzo, Ciao)
Life sized portraits, advertising & marketing images on a large scale, the capability does not come cheap, but if someone handed it to me & said revisit all those locations where interesting shots resulted,of course I would think about taking on the offer.
Good video! Thanks. Both great cameras. I have the Z7 and I love it, a great 'all arounder' with superb image quality.
The Hasselblad is already Iconic. Those colors my God
For me color science of the nikon what sold me.. not the fast auto focus🙂
Yep I agree, it is an easy choice. :)
Phase one iq4 or Hasselblad h6d . Love the videos about medium format . Thanks 🙏🏽
Ah great choice for dream cameras. I will take the H4D for a spin as soon as I can. What camera are you creating with at the moment? Cheers Matt
Matt Irwin Photography I’m using a Sony a7iii and a canon 1dx. And yes I’d love to see move videos with you using your Hasselblad. It would be greatly appreciated. I really enjoy your videos. Thank you 🙏🏽
@@lanzarotepersonaltraining1563 I'm on it. ;)
Those H1 files were gorgeous indeed. Will I buy one? No. Why? Because I cannot afford it.
Perfect reason not to, what would be your dream camera? Cheers Matt
I would love a Z6 or Z7 i dont need a medium format, they are great, but im happy with fullframe
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Hi Matt! Very pleased to watch your videos, i watched the first one yesterday and the primary need for me when watching "reviews" is to not be forced liking something the story teller would like me to prefer.
I look for informations, not for preferences, so i am usually ignoring the fanatics.
I find in your video something neutral, something realistically explained, never trying to say "oh this is better than that WTF". Really appreciated. +1
Now, considering the topic of this video...
i feel like people is weird in this minding.
just couple of years ago, people was in the dream of owning a MF (44x33) camera.
Before the X1D to come on the ground, photographers were dreaming for huge and big Hassy, Pentax 645, DSLRs in that range of weight, speed, ergonomics and overall, IQ.
Now, it seems like MF is not anymore considered as a must to have, however the "dream" for most of the people could be a Huge and BIG Hassy or 645Z .
People DOES NOT KNOW how good is an X1D only because the stream is spreading other brands, and that could be also a strategy from hasselblad to keep limited amount of pieces around (don't tink so, should be really crazy choice).
The sensor is the same in the DSLRs from Hassy, the color science is the same than in any other HAssy, no way.
I own an X1D 50C and i love everything i shoot with it, it's my final camera, with it's limits and outstanding qualities.
i cannot believe anyone could choose an FF camera against this ML super ergonomics and super IQ + super lenses, setting the price apart.
This is a "porn" camera, no way.
thanks and sorry for annoying comment!
missed to say, of course, the filed of application for the camera!!!
I have tried the first version of x1d of someone. It was lighter than I thought (when compare to my Leica SL) and beautiful design.
Just being curious, what type of SL?
I'm currently thinking to purchase the mark1 as it's becomes yery 'affordable'. Doesn't mean I have the money yet. I need to sell my A9 and lenses first. Would you recommend the SL Type 601???
Frank Wieczorek yep. It’s first one as well I bought the used one for saving my money as well. For this time the first version is good price.
14:04 Hasseblad has much more detail as you can see in the city background, all colours that is just a smudge in Nikon image. Bigger sensor gives more light.
My dream camera would be the Nikon D850 with the Tamron 24-70mm F2.8G or the up coming Nikon Z8 Camera with the Nikkor 24-70mm F2.8s
I have used the X1D (Version 1) for awhile now, I gotta saw the AWB on it is very good! Also the colors are very accurate, and need little editing (raw files), when you import them into Phocus or LR. Great video as always Matt!! You are selling me on the H4D-60 though! Haha :D
Another outstanding video! Thanks Matt !
Just a consideration: the Hasselblad 120mm lens is a macro lens, that perform "well" even at infinite focus, but it is not its speciality. You should compare the same kinds of lenses on both cameras: both macro lenses or both standard lenses. I understand that that was what you got from your friend, maybe you should have tested the Hasselblad against a Nikon macro lens. Thank you anyway for the video
for portraits and landscape I would take hassy any time over z7... on 5K screen you should see some difference, maybe on YT video we can't see that difference so much.
The color may be just a tiny bit too saturated, but the color depth is absolutely stunning. I would do here the same comment as I did to another photographer and DP... we are not so much comparing a camera to another camera (eg Z7 vs X1D), as we are comparing (camera + lens) vs (camera + lens). That's where I don't know where credits is due. Take the D850 and the beloved 14-24mm f2.8 (I actually don't think it's great in modern age) and compare it the results to the N28 f1.4 (especially if stopped down at f2.8).. The two images taken will have nothing in comparison in terms of luminance/color depth and sharpness.. Same thing goes with a lens such as the N300 f2.8 stopped down at f4, I have never seen such depth and sharpness and in astrophotography it's very close to what you could get out of very specialized refractors. So is medium format better ? I would definitely expect so ! Especially in the recovery of shadows. Is it that much better than a FF with a great lens ? I genuinely wonder.
Just looking quickly at Z 85mm MTF: imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/z-mount/z_85mmf18s/spec.htm it looks much better (except in the corners) than the XCD 120 MTF: cdn.hasselblad.com/datasheets/xcd-lenses/XCD120-Datasheet-en.pdf . So I would expect the Z 85mm + Z7 to render as good if not better as the X1D if the sensors are of similar performance. 12:13: it's great that you are shooting at the same aperture ;) and it's good those 2 lenses have about the same number of elements (slight advantage XCD). 13:44 I do see more depth in the shadows and colors but I would be curious to see a comparison of the images after processing to match their histogram.. Any chance to get the raw images of those two images ? Dream camera: more in camera processing... imagine a DSLR/mirrorless that would stack multiple short exposures in the way the iphone does, to produce a single denoise & low light photo. DSLR/mirrorless are already doing great but only because of the much bigger lenses; why not combine both ?
Matt, I love your taste for color and composition! Your friend at the other side of the world, Federico.
I would totally go for the Z7 if I had the money. Definitely dont see a big enough difference in the hassleblad to warrant that kind of steep price. Nikon has done a superb job. One day I will be a part of the Z crew and I look forward to it. I have my own youtube channel and cover so many aspects of art and creating and hope that one day I can get to the caliber that you are at my friend. I have released videos every week and will continue to do so. I have found deep passion in sharing my knowledge and being a creator on youtube. Thank you for the motivation and direction and clear head you have given me. I will make a positive impact and change to the art and photography community, i am absolutely determined to make and share art just like you my friend. Anyhow, thank you again for all you do!
Thanks Shane, thanks so much. I will check your channel out. All the best to you getting through the coming weeks. Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography thanks alot Matt! Yeah i already lost my regular day job bc of this so i have been leveling up my portfolio of freelance services and hopefully i will land some good gigs soon. I am optimistic but i guess i have to be lol. You really have inspired me heavily and I love your commentary and watching you achieve your goals and go on this journey. Thanks for taking us along brother.
@@earthwalker4538 Thanks Shane, good luck. Indeed for us creatives in this current time, it is challenging, along with a chance for us to grow and shine. All the very best sir. Cheers Matt
After having used all the best digital cameras to date, I definitely prefer the Sony A7R3 and A7R4. Have sold my Nikon Z7 and many others.
What do you see in the Sony A7R III and IV which brings you to those conclusions, I own the A7R III, tell me what you see, would love to know : ) Cheers Matt
Sorry to step in here, but I like to put my 2 cents to your conversation.
All these consumer cameras like Sony A7, A9 regardless what type, Nikon Z6 or 7 or Fujifilm H1, all of them have something in common :
-they try to flood us with their versatility, their specs, speed, framer ates, resolution etc.
What do I miss here :
Pure image quality,
Getting excited to take the gear in my hand, to hold it, to use it,
I almost had this with the Panasonic G9 in terms of handling and speed.,
With the Sigma DP Quattro in terms of resolution and in terms of IQ and pop with the Sony RX1R mark1.
The Hasselblad x1d II is very close to what I'm looking for.
A better AF system, a much better battery life, and faster processor...
And yes I would scratch all my money to go with this awesome peace of equipment. Form factor, ergonomics and resolution : please don't change it, it's just perfect
@@frankwieczorek5112 Great to hear your thoughts Frank. Cheers Matt
Tried out the X1D mk1 - loved the great images - hated the Camera.
The Mk 2 isn't quite as bad as the Mk1.
DJI should have asked Fuji to make them like the fantastic H series.
All high level cameras should be 16 bit.
I'd like to know how many of the lenses were converted from the H series cameras?.
You should use a colorchecker passport.
Sensor size does not effect depth of field - only Aperture, distance and focal length do along with coc of coarse.
For the money they certainly should be. I have now found out the X1D is not true 16 bit, which is disappointing ... perhaps version III. Dream Camera? Cheers Matt
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Unlike the Hasselblad H cameras - the X1H cameras are only converted to 16 bit
The next gen Nikon Z is promised to be 16 bit.
The X1H is a pretty camera.
Great channel Matt. I really enjoy the material you produce. I have just ordered the Z6 ii and the Z7 ii as upgrades to my Z6 and Z7 which are perfect for me and my use cases and hence the ii’s are hopefully my dream cameras :). Best wishes from Sweden.
For most of my shooting style, I'd like a D500 Mark II, in a Z 50 body (OK, Z7 body if you need that size to weather seal and make it tough as a tank). I need FAST auto focus (Z7 and Z50 just don't cut it in that department). Don't really need much more that 20MP, but I wouldn't say no to a few more..... But, using the Z camera's really make my D500 seem old and clunky - and my old Pentax bodies really old school!
I wonder if you go back to the street scene with both cameras and compare the pictures, how much of a difference would you see?
I can see some use for the pictures I take, mainly wildlife and nature, but it wouldn't be useful for the pictures of the owls or other birds but the flowers on the way back to the car it would seem to be great.
my dream camera would be a Mamiya 6 or 7 digital with a 6x7 (6x6) cm sensor and about 50mpx. I even don´t need a menu built in. Because of the possibility focusing on a screen the only change to the old Mamiya 7 I really need is much closer focusing capabilities. I need fully manual exposing, AE and nothing more. I perfectly could live with the form of the old Mamiyas although I have to admit that the body of the Hassy, especially the grip is the best I had on any camera. Unfortunately this camera probably never will happen.
As a Nikon Z shooter I hope for a successor with 16bit files and please don't give me more megapixels than Z7!
Cheers
Hi Matt, again greetings from the other side of the planet! WOW, what colours at plus/minus 8:30. Are those 16 bit colours sooc or after edit in Phocus? The X1D has the same sensor as Fuji GFX 50S and 50R, both deliver 16 bit RAW, the RAF of Fuji is supposed to be best ever. I once read somewhere a very interesting scientific article on different raw files, if you want me to, I’ll gonna search for it, afai can remember, Hasselblad and Phase One are not covered. However, biggest difference between Hasselblad and GFX is central shutter (leaf shutter) in Hasselblad vs focal plane shutter in GFX. This offers the opportunity of flash sync down to 1/2000 sec on Hasselblad without the need of HSS flash system. FYC: all Fuji X100 also have central shutter. Because I can’t compare myself, it would be nice, if you could make some raw files X1D and of your own Hasselblad available for download, I’d really appreciate!
Thanks so much for the info Roland, I'll work something out on the file front. Cheers Matt :)
Matt Irwin Photography , thanks so much in advance! RUclips is good, pixel peeping myself - huhmmm - probably not better, but makes much more fun 😄
I would like a test of Fuji GFX 100S/50R. That camera is on my wish list when I retailer.
Hasselblad lenses have always been very good at cutting through the haze...
Dream camera Leica S3 or any of the S line.
If I had the money, yes I’d have one. I’d also have a couple of Leica, m and sl2, and both phase ones. Love my Nikon d850 and would keep that and buy a z8. Would be first in line for hassle X1d 100 mp. But would have to hit the lottery to buy any new camera. I love photography but also gear and researching gear. Maybe I should be a vlogger?
Dream cam? The antique 4x5 hasselblad a friend owns -- the same cam I am not allowed to steal :)
Damn, why did they stop you? : )
At that price way over rated you would have to be a special rich pro to need or want that.
I think a way better choice would be a GFX 100 if you really need mediam format. Go Nikon😄👍thanks Matt.
yes the GFX-100 is being reccomended in the comments here, well deserved I think. Dream Camera? Cheers Matt
Very interesting video and comparison, Matt! As a landscape and product photogapher moving into the Z7 from a Fuji X-T3 kit, I believe that the combo of FF and 46MP will be enough of a vast improvement in overall detail and image quality in large prints, that I don't "Need" MF. Plus the fact that those 46MP NEF files will tax my computer system quite enough anyway. :-) Besides, aren't the new Z mount lenses, like the 50 /f4 S for example, ultra-sharp too? For my use cases, I certainly think the Z7 files are more than sufficient. Thanks again!
Nice video, thank you. BTW $10,700 for the X1D2 and 135mm but with the 45p it would be $7,000... much closer. I own the X1D2 and, like other tech purchases I rationalize the price for getting what I consider the best possible tehnical quality and user experience. Just me. :)
you didn't set the XCD 120 up correctly. Use the custom settings and switch the macro to C1 and long focus zone to C2.
Is Hasselblad X1D II actual Medium format or cropped medium format?
Very detailed and Informative.
Cheers Kiran, what is your goto camera in 2020? Cheers Matt
I’m using Nikon Z6 and I’m pretty happy with the image quality and functionality.
Just wondering where to get a Hasselblad x1d ii in melbourne?
Right now my dream camera is the Nikon D500 since I had to sell mine after I lost my job. I still have my Z 6, but it can't do BIF like a D500.
I think Hasselblad's strength is color, the accuracy, richness, contrast and transition of color give the images the unique look. So comparing two rather monochromatic sample images really does not do justice to the potential of the cameras.
Yes Please. More Hasselblad video's.
It hasn't got the reach of my P1000,those chopSuey hasselBads are only toys!
Does Nasa even have as much reach as the P1000? :)
Not that the equivalent F stop is only with regards to depth of field - an image size doesn't change the amount of light gathered. Medium Format would be awesome to play with :P
Indeed, have you ever had a chance to play with one? Cheers Matt
Larger sensors allow for larger pixels which are more sensitive to light and thus need less signal gain and thus produces less noise. Such is the advantage of larger format sensors in producing more detail. The just produce cleaner images.
Matt if you were truly serious about trying out and comparing the best you wouldn't be referring to a Hasselblad at all anymore. You would know that nothing in the market compares or can compete currently to the Phase One IQ4 and it's 150 million pixel sensor and crafted blue ring lenses. Even the Fujifilm GFX range in my humble experience runs rings around anything the blad can, aesthetics aren't everything Matt.
I notice you are using different processing software for each camera, would that affect the quality of the images?
Nikon D850 ❤