I have a MTS 950 S and I'm currently considering this tire (I still have the OEMs on). Thanks for sharing your opinion, I will definitely take that longevity into account. Cheers from Brazil!
Watched some ads for ya today. Good that you mentioned as a reminder on how some tires will affect your distances on long trips. Great tires can be a problem too when it comes to trips and your budget. 👍 I think Heidenau K60 tires you can expect a good 10,000 km on large bikes with mostly street use & dirt and mud 30% . Just don't expect to feel safe at high speeds 😁
I can only support this opinion. I also have an Africa Twin Adv Sport with these tyres. They work very well off road, absolutely no complaints. In fact one of the better tyres I have used offroad. But dont expect to get any more than 4000 - 5000km. If you want a premium product, and not concerned about mileage, this is a really good product. If your priority lies with getting the most possible mileage, then you wont find it here. This is all based on big adventure bikes.
They came new on my Ktm 790. Good on dry pavement, terrible in the wet. Ok on dry dirt and gravel. Useless in mud and wet grass. Rear was trash in less than 3000km. Replaced them with mitas E10's, probably won't last any longer but better everywhere onroad and offroad.
XT 1200 or 750? I can recommend you Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR for great street performance and good longetivity (did ~12.000km on my 660). Works well offroad as long as it's dry.
I got hese tires from a friend who took them off his KTM Adv because he found them terrifying in the wet. I must say they are a bit sketchy on my 990 KTM.
hello, I am not of the same opinion, I have one r1250gs adventure and it weighs much more than africa twin I have the karoo3 and I am at almost 4000km traveled and the rear now starts to lose the middle row, I would say that with my cow I should do it at least 10000km if not more and I use it both on and of the road... however, congratulations, beautiful videos and great advice!
I bought a super Tenere with these fitted and I rode it in the rain and it was a bit scary. They were half worn and I have a long trip coming up so I took them off and put on some Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR. I also thought the tyres were too noisy for the highway as well. I haven’t had a chance to try out the scorpions but I’ll do that on my trip.
This entire topic of road/street tyres compared to off-road or tyres dirt tyres is just too complicated. If one installs tyres that are more for the road, as is the case with me, cos I more prefer to ride long distance, then I am in the shit if I decide to go off-road. But if I install something that is a 50/50 then it's bloody noisy and the tyre will shred itself to pieces on the hard asphalt. So, maybe something that is a 30/70 ratio would be more suitable for a big heavy bike, so just in case one prefers to go a little in the dirt the bike does not move around too much. But again I would prefer something that is safe on the asphalt as the speeds are high, rather than being a champion in the dirt. As in the dirt, I can ride much slower and in case of a fall be much less prone to injury or damage to the machine. Price does play a big role in choosing motorcycle tyres, especially for the people who ride around a lot but then again safety comes first. As fixing bones is much more painful and expensive, rather than spending a few bucks extra on tyres. Just my thoughts!
Hello Pavlin, great review again, just wondering wether you ride with tubes or nu tubes ? What’s your preference and why ? Would you adapt your rims for tubeless ? Maybe a good idea to make a video on tubes or no tubes ?
On rainy asphalt, the Karoo 3 is really bad...like riding on ice..but not just any ice: ice that had some oil spilled on it. Traction control was working overtime just to keep me going (on a BMW F 850 GS)
Thanks for the informative Video. I love the ,Michelin Annakee Adventure Tires. But probably they are not off-road enough for your use. By the way, what did they smoke when they painted that bike 😉?
This is the catch with the tire: it _sucks_ in wet, on asphalt. It sticks, sticks... then it suddenly doesn't. It doesn't warn you, like, for example, e07 do. It just lets go completely, entirely and impossible to predict - and does so on the front too. In everything dry, all I can complain would be much higher vibrations, than what e07 have, plus pretty crap longevity - but well, they are K.
I have this tires on the ktm 890 adv r (stock). The noise from the tires - I can't hear it. On tarmac I can easily go ~180kmh. In the terrain, mud is problematic, especially left-rigth grip is weak compared to forward-back. Overall good tire, but I will go for something more off-road oriented next time.
Have you tried the Metzeler Enduro 3 Sahara? Meant to be a 50/50. I currently have TKC80 on my 1290SAR and the rear is worn at 3,000klms, so looking at tryings something new. Front are still very good. Would get 5000 to 7000klms I reckon.
Hi, Thanks for this review, especially with the engine turned off! That was interesting. Metzelers are generally good performance tires, and even the street tires wear out quickly. I guess they're soft compound, so... Ultimately, they work out much more expensive than the competition within the same price range.
Thanks for the review, I used the Shinko 705 on my Super Tenere and they lasted 14.000KM but the front tire developed a dangerous wiggle that made me switch to Mitas e07+ for the front tire... I was thinking of the Karoo3’s but now I’ll see how the Mitas behave and if they last 15k I’ll use them as my go to tires.
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Great to watch, you are always so cheerful.
Thanks
I had a few too many beers last night Pavlin, but I will watch all the same.
Cool!
We have Timsun TS-837 which are replicated after Karoo 3, so far a friend of ours has clocked 10k kms on his BMW R1200GS with em
I have one of those "elephants" and was looking at these tires. I appreciate the review my friend!
Glad to help!
I have a MTS 950 S and I'm currently considering this tire (I still have the OEMs on). Thanks for sharing your opinion, I will definitely take that longevity into account. Cheers from Brazil!
Enjoy your holiday and trip I’m following your videos closely from a cold wintry Western Cape in South Africa
Thanks!
Love my Karoo's, also using Anakee Wild. Much the same.
Thanks for sharing!
I love the Karoo 3 front and a K60 Scout rear. Goes anywhere I wanna go.
Cool!
Watched some ads for ya today. Good that you mentioned as a reminder on how some tires will affect your distances on long trips. Great tires can be a problem too when it comes to trips and your budget. 👍 I think Heidenau K60 tires you can expect a good 10,000 km on large bikes with mostly street use & dirt and mud 30% . Just don't expect to feel safe at high speeds 😁
No perfect tire
Can confirm K60 as a good tyres. First of all, almost silent comparing to the ones presented here.
Nastravé!!! One of the roads reminds me of the road up to Ravnogor. Very winding and fun.
Cool!
I can only support this opinion.
I also have an Africa Twin Adv Sport with these tyres. They work very well off road, absolutely no complaints. In fact one of the better tyres I have used offroad. But dont expect to get any more than 4000 - 5000km.
If you want a premium product, and not concerned about mileage, this is a really good product.
If your priority lies with getting the most possible mileage, then you wont find it here.
This is all based on big adventure bikes.
Thanks for sharing!
Mitas E07 rules for me. And cheaper!
The same for me
Yep Mitas much better
They came new on my Ktm 790. Good on dry pavement, terrible in the wet. Ok on dry dirt and gravel. Useless in mud and wet grass. Rear was trash in less than 3000km. Replaced them with mitas E10's, probably won't last any longer but better everywhere onroad and offroad.
Good to know
Thanks for your honest opinion. I am looking at new tires for a Super Teneré
My pleasure
XT 1200 or 750?
I can recommend you Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR for great street performance and good longetivity (did ~12.000km on my 660).
Works well offroad as long as it's dry.
I'm on AX41 about 2500km. Happy with the wear till now. It's a 175kg motorcycle with 40hp though.
Good to know.
I ordered the Karoo 4s I can’t wait to install them on my new tiger 1200
Have fun!
@@motorcycleadventures you think they are good on the road way as well ?
Good review. Well thought out and fair.
Glad you liked it!
Thank you very much, great advice.
Glad it was helpful!
honest review as always!
Thanks!, Sujoy!
Really nice review as always. Consider trying the game changer Motoz. Either Tractionator Adventure or RallZ.😉
I'll check it out!
I got hese tires from a friend who took them off his KTM Adv because he found them terrifying in the wet. I must say they are a bit sketchy on my 990 KTM.
Thanks for sharing!
Respect from ESPAÑA!
Gracias!
Dunlop Trailmax Missions have got great reviews. Thinking of investing in a set when I get my new 790 R...
Might work well.
Thx for Your opinia
My pleasure
Congrajulations for the Honda Africa !!!!!
It is not mine, just rode it for a week
hello, I am not of the same opinion, I have one r1250gs adventure and it weighs much more than africa twin I have the karoo3 and I am at almost 4000km traveled and the rear now starts to lose the middle row, I would say that with my cow I should do it at least 10000km if not more and I use it both on and of the road...
however, congratulations, beautiful videos and great advice!
The life of the tires dependent from many factors: weight, riding style, road surface...
I bought a super Tenere with these fitted and I rode it in the rain and it was a bit scary. They were half worn and I have a long trip coming up so I took them off and put on some Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR. I also thought the tyres were too noisy for the highway as well. I haven’t had a chance to try out the scorpions but I’ll do that on my trip.
Good to know!
My brandly new is total mess.After 2 k KM on rain is like on ice.I could not stop and start .
Thanks for sharing!
This entire topic of road/street tyres compared to off-road or tyres dirt tyres is just too complicated. If one installs tyres that are more for the road, as is the case with me, cos I more prefer to ride long distance, then I am in the shit if I decide to go off-road. But if I install something that is a 50/50 then it's bloody noisy and the tyre will shred itself to pieces on the hard asphalt. So, maybe something that is a 30/70 ratio would be more suitable for a big heavy bike, so just in case one prefers to go a little in the dirt the bike does not move around too much. But again I would prefer something that is safe on the asphalt as the speeds are high, rather than being a champion in the dirt. As in the dirt, I can ride much slower and in case of a fall be much less prone to injury or damage to the machine. Price does play a big role in choosing motorcycle tyres, especially for the people who ride around a lot but then again safety comes first. As fixing bones is much more painful and expensive, rather than spending a few bucks extra on tyres. Just my thoughts!
Thanks for taking the time Stan!
TKC80 is good enough on tarmac and dirty roads..
Pavlin, you have a new motorcycle? I watch your videos a lot but this is new for me. Will you make a video with your review?
No! It was given to me for a few days. The review you can watch here: ruclips.net/video/5iLTqZtafUM/видео.html
Hello Pavlin, great review again, just wondering wether you ride with tubes or nu tubes ? What’s your preference and why ? Would you adapt your rims for tubeless ? Maybe a good idea to make a video on tubes or no tubes ?
I have tubes. Both have some pros and cons.
The karoo is a vast land area in South Africa. I think that's where the tyre gets its name.
Could be!
On rainy asphalt, the Karoo 3 is really bad...like riding on ice..but not just any ice: ice that had some oil spilled on it. Traction control was working overtime just to keep me going (on a BMW F 850 GS)
Good ti know!
Thanks for the informative Video. I love the ,Michelin Annakee Adventure Tires. But probably they are not off-road enough for your use. By the way, what did they smoke when they painted that bike 😉?
Well, ask them. Link in the description
This is the catch with the tire: it _sucks_ in wet, on asphalt. It sticks, sticks... then it suddenly doesn't. It doesn't warn you, like, for example, e07 do. It just lets go completely, entirely and impossible to predict - and does so on the front too.
In everything dry, all I can complain would be much higher vibrations, than what e07 have, plus pretty crap longevity - but well, they are K.
I have this tires on the ktm 890 adv r (stock). The noise from the tires - I can't hear it. On tarmac I can easily go ~180kmh. In the terrain, mud is problematic, especially left-rigth grip is weak compared to forward-back. Overall good tire, but I will go for something more off-road oriented next time.
Thanks for sharing!
Looks a good tyre but not enough mileage for my tours as they are 80% tarmac.
Good to know, thank you
You are welcome anytime!
what's with the Christmas wrapping on the bike??
Bulgarian colors.
I will put them on my xr650r
Good
Have you tried the Metzeler Enduro 3 Sahara? Meant to be a 50/50. I currently have TKC80 on my 1290SAR and the rear is worn at 3,000klms, so looking at tryings something new. Front are still very good. Would get 5000 to 7000klms I reckon.
No I haven't.
Did you try metzeller sahara? What about mileage?
@@ionutd84 No, I have not tried them yet. Might try them on the DR650
I always enjoy your videos & like your explanations. But, why did you have to put that color on your bike, Pavlin? Just why? 😭😭😭
It is not my bike
@@motorcycleadventures Aaahh, that’s a relief...
Hi, Thanks for this review, especially with the engine turned off! That was interesting. Metzelers are generally good performance tires, and even the street tires wear out quickly. I guess they're soft compound, so... Ultimately, they work out much more expensive than the competition within the same price range.
Thanks for taking the time!
Buddy of mine has 2019 Africa Twin. Front tyre didn't last as long as rear
Could be
@@motorcycleadventures Doesnt happen often from my experience. He is an instructor too so imagine he knows what he is doing.
Thanks for the review, I used the Shinko 705 on my Super Tenere and they lasted 14.000KM but the front tire developed a dangerous wiggle that made me switch to Mitas e07+ for the front tire... I was thinking of the Karoo3’s but now I’ll see how the Mitas behave and if they last 15k I’ll use them as my go to tires.
Mitas will last much longer
Motorcycle Adventures 🤞🏼🙏 I hope so....I mostly ride 90% highway and 10% Gravel... but the price/mileage of the Mitas is the best combination.
What about mud, sand and deep mud and sand?
There are much better tires and bikes for such a terrains.
@@motorcycleadventures I know KTM 890 R is much better ;) But it comes with Karoo 3 as well. So I'm thinking if I need to change tires to TKC 80. :)
How many kms it last in mix road conditions
4,000km
You bought that T7 yet?
No
the rear is terrible in the wet, the front is good all round.
True!
Do you ride a Africa Twin now? Or do you still have the Tenere?
I still have the Tenere. Rode the Africa for one week
For me longevity was bigger
Thanks for sharing!
Rain they are very scetchy.
Good to know
Доволен ли си от тези гуми?
Направих видеото, за да отговоря на този въпрос!
My goodness, the color of the bike actually hurts the eyes!
It is not that bad on real
Looks like my grandma's tablecloth ;)
@@nomad5176 🤣🤣
I thought it was cool. No mistaking it for any other bike!