That distinctive loud scream would never get old, sounds amazing on any bus but especially DAF DB250’s. Shame times change and it’s now rarer to find these brilliant sounding beasts.
As a driver I LOVE the DIWA’s retarder as it’s SO powerful compared to ZF’s or Allison’s. It’s engagement is a wee bit ‘rough’, however. At least compared to the others. But THE SOUND 😍😍😍
@@busspotterbg2459 takođe, mi u Rijeci imamo Conecte i Classice sa Voith getribom. Samo steta sta nema vise Avtomontaza jer si prije mogo njih cuti na kilometre
@@jamesfrench7299 Yes, I too wish to know about that unique whine that rises when you hit the throttle. I know the Renk 870 series used in the earlier MAN buses operated in much the same way.
@@aa44tc34 En tout cas dans un NovaBus LFS on entend TRÈS BIEN la Voith. Dans nos bus articulés j’entends presque pas le moteur alors que je suis au volant, mais la transmission? OH QUE OUI 😍
If you mean the whoosh when it slows down. That is the force of the dynamic brake controller initiating the magnetic brake retarder. Dynamic brakes were first used on trains but now most buses since the 1970's have it to reduce wear on the brake pads :). Hope this helps.
Basically, the gearbox selects the reverse gear set and the resulting low ratio spins the torque converter at a very fast speed in the opposite direction. At least that's how I understand it.
Im a bus mechanic. We have Voiths in our new buses. You guys are strange. The only sound I hear is cha-ching! The configuration we have is gonna be overtime for R&R & servicing
If you are referring to the noise from 0:38 to 0:51, that is the hydrodynamic retarder. Most turbines make a whistle or whine sound when spun at high speed. Since the retarder is comprised of a stator and rotor (the torque converter’s impeller & turbine, in this specific case) this is what generates that noise as the turbine is rapidly accelerated to high speeds once the retarder engages. The rest is simply “normal” transmission noises. All gears make noise when meshing together. Straight cut are the noisiest. Not too sure which type Voith uses in the DIWA. 🤔
I think it's the "first gear" gearset spun over in the reverse direction at a crazy-high ratio. Voith do have a video explaining the principle behind it.
All gearboxes make some kind of whining noise, with automatics it's mainly the oil pump, torque converter, retarder and gears you're hearing. Then the housing resonates at different frequencies depending upon the gearbox design, and for example ZF 5HP50x gearboxes sound like ordinary car manual gearboxes while Voith DIWAs 85x sound more like gas turbines. Maintenance plays an important part too. I just replaced gear oil in my car's manual transaxle (with OEM GL-5 oil, same one used in buses ZF rear axles actually) and found it now sounds a little ZF-like louder than it used to when the 20 year old factory fill was still inside (perhaps it thickens away with age and use and then dampens vibrations in a better way). Perhaps the loudest Voiths have just had the old ATF oil flushed and replaced but i could be wrong
@@jaggass Personally, i enjoy loud Voiths more than ZFs. I've too heard pretty silent ZFs or Voiths, on really old buses mostly. To the point i even wondered if the Voith bus had a Voith at all. What i really hate, however, is the deep moaning/groaning/humming noise that rear axles (probably the reducer part, that cylindrical shaped thing where the gearbox output shaft meets the axle so that wheels are driven) seem to create on some buses (awful soundproofing perhaps). This one will follow rpms, make the floor vibrate and cover/ruin any ZF or Voith gearbox noise pretty bad. Pretty sure about the origin, since i've heard the same noise whether the same bus model had a ZF or a Voith, and it's clearly not a power steering or cooling fan noise.
@@ЂорђеЈовановић-д9р Ovo što ću Vam proslediti, nije baš direktno IK-202, ali je mehanički identično. Raba D10 (doduše, od 160 KW, slabiji od onog u IK-202), Voith sa tri brzine i Raba BDI pogonska osovina. A čini se da je i sam autobus u dobrom stanju. Audio snimak (pažljivo gledajte naslov i opis videa) ruclips.net/video/CiWDacsIaRA/видео.html Video u enterijeru istog autobusa ruclips.net/video/JfefYgACVV4/видео.html ENG: This, what I am forwarding to you, isn't quite an IK-202 directly, but it is mechanically identical. Raba D10 (although it's a 160 KW version, less powerful than the one in the IK-202), three-speed Voith and the Raba BDI driving axle. And it also seems that the bus itself is in good condition. Audio recording (watch the title and the description carefully) - *adress* Video from inside the same bus *adress*
That distinctive loud scream would never get old, sounds amazing on any bus but especially DAF DB250’s. Shame times change and it’s now rarer to find these brilliant sounding beasts.
All this time I thought I was the only person that loves the way the voith transmission sounds I'm gonna find a bus to buy one day
I love how it operates. I get Voith buses going past my house. I feel privileged. I don't get all this love for ZF.
The sound of this gearbox is literally like music to my ears ❤
The gearbox sound are perfectly amazing! 👍👍👍👍
Brake kickdown in 0:38-0:51 is amazing
🥵🥵🥵
kickdown ?
@Planespotting Malta :D, i meant the Дима Ворошень guy, thats never a break "kickdown?!", just turning on the retarder
It's the retarder mate lol
As a driver I LOVE the DIWA’s retarder as it’s SO powerful compared to ZF’s or Allison’s. It’s engagement is a wee bit ‘rough’, however. At least compared to the others.
But THE SOUND 😍😍😍
Yes, Voith, we have 1000 buses with this gearbox here in Bucharest, great product 👍
Care
@@dobreargentineanu Citaro E3 și E4
I broke the replay button 😍😍😍
Same
What‘s your favorite song?
Me: It‘s complicated…
our GX58 plated MAN chassis enviro 300s sound alot like this gearbox !!!!
I think we had these in our MAN lions city buses, they sounded AMAZING!
Wish they made Voith transmissions for cars too
TeraVolt Some Irisbus / Iveco Crossway already have Voith transmissions.
Voith also makes separate retarders for other manufacturers' transmissions.
@@ClassicTVMan1981X do they sound the same or do they sound different and which manufactures do they make them for so you have a list
Can we keep the bus transmission in car crap outta here?
There's also a whine from the engine.. What makes that sound?
These transmission is also known for in the lynx buses man I love the sound of that transmission whine
ye those transmissions were in buses 501-599 but most of them are retired :(
I find myself lurching back & forward in time to the gear changes!!
Very common here in São Paulo City, usually in buses with the chassis Mercedes-Benz O500u and O-500UDA
I'm so in love with the sound! 😍😍😍♥️♥️♥️😎😎😎
I get to hear it every Day in our city buses, the older urbinos sound Great
@@bertakuceru6865 Man ng 283 i think it is. In serbia we hear it EVERY SINGLE DAY😍
Its actually lions classic man sg 283
@@busspotterbg2459 takođe, mi u Rijeci imamo Conecte i Classice sa Voith getribom.
Samo steta sta nema vise Avtomontaza jer si prije mogo njih cuti na kilometre
@@Gabriel-he6ih Kod nas rashoduju sve stare voith u bgu
Mercedes-Benz Conecto O345K❤
Amazing sound😍❤️❤️!
My LORDZ!
Those sound effects ❤
This gearbox is perfect
This sound reminds me a lot of the millennium 3 o500u euro III that São Paulo still has, greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
how many times have i watched this idk
Nice sound from the gearbox 🔊🔊🔊
I love my bus
@@hobusmaton that's great 👍👍👍
@@hobusmatonwhat is this, vdl?
@@bigmansir3745 VDL is a bus manufacturer
@@hobusmaton oh sorry, is this a vdl ambassador , or citea, the gearbox sounds very similair to the ambassadors here.
0:12-0:52 is the best sound!
Best transmission ever devised? Yes.
Lembra bastante os Millennium II que tinha em São paulo antigamente, belos guerreiros
older buses in my town sound like this
This song represents going to school ❤️
miss these sounds！typical Dennis Trident sounds
Memories of the singapore b10m dm3500...... too bad all gone, now it's only left with the very soft sound citaroa
*citaros
man a22 voith usually have loud retarder
Just amazing
Sounds like a Dennis Dragon, nostalgia
lmao had ridden a 2 axel bus in brisbane sounded exactly like this
Dam, this lil guy sounds like the most of the Solaris Urbino's
These Voith retarder sound reminds me my 8-10 age in Curitiba, Brazil.
0:38 voith whistle!
The voith diwas are famous about that scream-breaking.
@@kyolee6737 what causes the trademark whine as it's going?
@@jamesfrench7299 And when idle, and I believe it is the retarder.
@@jamesfrench7299 Yes, I too wish to know about that unique whine that rises when you hit the throttle. I know the Renk 870 series used in the earlier MAN buses operated in much the same way.
@@ClassicTVMan1981X Renk Doromat you mean? They don't whine.
Best sounds
ok this is like teh 3000th time i have watched rhis
lol
I love voith
What is this bus!! It sounds amazing with that Voith!! 😍
I miss the van hool a300l and the a300k buses, they dont run at my area anymore
Damn this sound good
Great music!
Ça donne des frissons 😍
J'étais à moitié sourd après la vidéo mais quel kiff c'était d'être enrobé par cette mélodie !
@@aa44tc34 En tout cas dans un NovaBus LFS on entend TRÈS BIEN la Voith. Dans nos bus articulés j’entends presque pas le moteur alors que je suis au volant, mais la transmission? OH QUE OUI 😍
Nice, I love the engine man.
Já revisei pelo menos 300 caixas dessa... Muito boa
1 - 0:14
1-2 0:18
2 - 0:19
2-3 0:23
3 - 0:24
3-4 0:33
4 - 0:34
Next is a shift list
What in there gives that sound, it’s a soundtrack for sure
If you mean the whoosh when it slows down. That is the force of the dynamic brake controller initiating the magnetic brake retarder. Dynamic brakes were first used on trains but now most buses since the 1970's have it to reduce wear on the brake pads :).
Hope this helps.
Transport & Simulation Hub Cheers bud! Been wanting to know that for years! Such a unique noise
@@BritishRail60062 The retarders on these are hydraulic rather than electromagnetic
@@FM60260 is that the same gearbox retarder used in trucks ?
Basically, the gearbox selects the reverse gear set and the resulting low ratio spins the torque converter at a very fast speed in the opposite direction. At least that's how I understand it.
Sounds like a straight piped Cummins
It's a Man D2866UH :)
Sounds more like a Detroit diesel series 6v92ta or 6v71n
@@hobusmatonnderstandable. It's just the straight pipe sound reminds me of a straight piped Cummins and it sounds just like that too
@@NeoTesla Ah okey 😃
This sounds like a Dennis Dragon ❤
Music for my ears
and here we are again
Спасибо за видео!)
remindes me of them flxible's
Its sounds like DAF MJT
Reminds me of a Mercedes-Benz O405NH (Volgren CR225L)
Great video. ☺️
Damn!
Geil 😍
Im a bus mechanic. We have Voiths in our new buses. You guys are strange. The only sound I hear is cha-ching! The configuration we have is gonna be overtime for R&R & servicing
Why do Voith transmissions make that whining sound?
Part of it are the planetary gears. The other part is the fluid coupling
If you are referring to the noise from 0:38 to 0:51, that is the hydrodynamic retarder. Most turbines make a whistle or whine sound when spun at high speed. Since the retarder is comprised of a stator and rotor (the torque converter’s impeller & turbine, in this specific case) this is what generates that noise as the turbine is rapidly accelerated to high speeds once the retarder engages.
The rest is simply “normal” transmission noises. All gears make noise when meshing together. Straight cut are the noisiest. Not too sure which type Voith uses in the DIWA. 🤔
ruclips.net/video/m9XORZqWSk8/видео.html
It must be the unique internal torque convertor and retarder in one they have as they continue to do it after 50 years of the Voith DIWA.
I think it's the "first gear" gearset spun over in the reverse direction at a crazy-high ratio. Voith do have a video explaining the principle behind it.
nice
0:38 ❤️
0:39 ❤❤
Imagine getting your fingers stuck in there
Is it VDL Ambassador??? beautiful sound
VanHool A600 of 1991 ☺ Man D2866UH no turbo 🥰
Lembra muito os mondegos da antiga, 0500ua
Mondego h o500u 1726 chile 😊
and im back
ADL Enviro 300! ADL Enviro 300 motor!
(Flatlined)
A question: why does the gearbox make these type of noises? Is it the rapid spinning of gears?
It's the oil with the pressure on the gear 🙂
Think of it as hydraulic wonderland inside.
Why do Voith gearboxes scream?
All gearboxes make some kind of whining noise, with automatics it's mainly the oil pump, torque converter, retarder and gears you're hearing. Then the housing resonates at different frequencies depending upon the gearbox design, and for example ZF 5HP50x gearboxes sound like ordinary car manual gearboxes while Voith DIWAs 85x sound more like gas turbines. Maintenance plays an important part too. I just replaced gear oil in my car's manual transaxle (with OEM GL-5 oil, same one used in buses ZF rear axles actually) and found it now sounds a little ZF-like louder than it used to when the 20 year old factory fill was still inside (perhaps it thickens away with age and use and then dampens vibrations in a better way). Perhaps the loudest Voiths have just had the old ATF oil flushed and replaced but i could be wrong
@@teravolt6113 I've heard Voith gearboxes that barely whine at all. New ones sound like spaceships and are terrible.
@@jaggass Personally, i enjoy loud Voiths more than ZFs. I've too heard pretty silent ZFs or Voiths, on really old buses mostly. To the point i even wondered if the Voith bus had a Voith at all. What i really hate, however, is the deep moaning/groaning/humming noise that rear axles (probably the reducer part, that cylindrical shaped thing where the gearbox output shaft meets the axle so that wheels are driven) seem to create on some buses (awful soundproofing perhaps). This one will follow rpms, make the floor vibrate and cover/ruin any ZF or Voith gearbox noise pretty bad. Pretty sure about the origin, since i've heard the same noise whether the same bus model had a ZF or a Voith, and it's clearly not a power steering or cooling fan noise.
@@teravolt6113 Hub reduction rear axles can be noisy an the loud but the loudest ones i've heard on Mercedes Benz 0405N's.
@@jaggass The loudest rear axle i've heard so far is on Temsa Avenue LF buses.
CNG or disel?
Diesel
@@hobusmaton best💪
Wow
Quipe I10xle
Sounds like MAZ-107
Cummins Engines?
No, MAN D2866UH 240hp, no turbo :)
uiiiiiiiiiiii iiihihhhhhhh iiihhhhh iiaaaaaaaaahhhhh iiiuuuuu
😂 😂 😂
@@hobusmaton Was good? i made the sound loool
Yes really 😂
@@hobusmaton Voith Lover
What bus is this on?
VanHool A600 of 1992
c'est quoi le bus
VanHool A600 1992 moteur Man D2866UH boite Voith D854.2
What is the model of the bus you was?
It's a VanHool A600/1 :)
ruclips.net/video/QWjAg_i7Tpg/видео.html&ab_channel=AlessioMaton
ruclips.net/video/AIGI4PfgMyU/видео.html&ab_channel=AlessioMaton
ruclips.net/video/yJajtIutsVY/видео.html&ab_channel=AlessioMaton
Is this Raba MAN D10 engine?
No Man D2866UH :)
@@hobusmaton im looking for Raba D10 that was used in Ikarbus IK202 articulated bus combined with Voith gearbox and Raba axiles.
@@ЂорђеЈовановић-д9р Ovo što ću Vam proslediti, nije baš direktno IK-202, ali je mehanički identično. Raba D10 (doduše, od 160 KW, slabiji od onog u IK-202), Voith sa tri brzine i Raba BDI pogonska osovina. A čini se da je i sam autobus u dobrom stanju.
Audio snimak (pažljivo gledajte naslov i opis videa) ruclips.net/video/CiWDacsIaRA/видео.html
Video u enterijeru istog autobusa ruclips.net/video/JfefYgACVV4/видео.html
ENG: This, what I am forwarding to you, isn't quite an IK-202 directly, but it is mechanically identical. Raba D10 (although it's a 160 KW version, less powerful than the one in the IK-202), three-speed Voith and the Raba BDI driving axle. And it also seems that the bus itself is in good condition.
Audio recording (watch the title and the description carefully) - *adress*
Video from inside the same bus *adress*
C'est ton A600
Oui
Dommage qu'il et plus en service
@@hobusmaton j'adore les A600 vraiment déçu qu'il ne roule plus
@@Bnk.off-360 Il n'est peut être plus en service mais il est toujours bien vivant et roule comme un charme :)
@@lespoteurbelge2790 Il est toujours bien vivant et en pleine forme c'est tout ce qui compte :)
VDL Ambassador?
VanHool A600 1992 :)
@@hobusmaton aaaah. Leek heel erg op een amba haha.
@@gwnlars_8306 Zeker niet :)
Maar ik houd wel van Ambassador :D
@@hobusmaton Ja dat bedenk ik me ook net. Geluid komt me bekend voor maar ik weet t bustype niet 1 2 3.
@@hobusmaton nou klinkt wel beetje hetzelfde tbh
TEC?
Yes exTEC :)
This one ruclips.net/video/QWjAg_i7Tpg/видео.html&ab_channel=AlessioMaton
Components of Volvo B7RLE
Ankara'da yaşayıp ego kullananlar bu sesten nefret eder 🤣
Nefaz
0:38 1:28 clown noises 🤡🤡🤡
Exhaust Sound
It's the transmission, the motor is a Man D2866UH it's a very good motor
@@hobusmaton Very good engine! ♥️♥️♥️😎😎😎
Hi man d2871
@@hobusmaton how do you open the bus engine cup?? In this vid
@@hobusmaton man? I tought it Is Iveco or liaz,
Very bad sound