Important Advice For All New Vinyl Record Collectors | Talking About Records
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- Опубликовано: 31 окт 2023
- We talk to a lot of new record collectors, and one of the most common frustrations we hear about is the struggle to simply buy the albums they want to own. The fact is, there are countless albums that desperately need to be repressed. So you're just gonna have to be patient!
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I'm not a collector, I'm a "rebuilder". Now that I'm older and have the money, I'm rebuilding my record collection(s) with titles that I love or are meaningful. I want the best sounding records. It's very hard to beat the original UK pressings of 60s and 70s British titles. Some records like the All Things Must Pass reissue are garbage, so I have to get something from the earlier pressings. I wanted a UK pressing in near mint but way too expensive, so I got a 1970 US pressing in near mint for $125. Sometimes I want a record from the time it was released like an Incredible String Band record, others, I don't care about that. A new one is fine and it doesn't have to be "audiophile", like a new colored vinyl pressing of Madman Across the Water, or a colored vinyl new pressing of Song to a Seagull by Joni Mitchell. New pressings are basically fine with me as long as they sound good, or unless I bring an original record from my youth off the time track into now. But I agree with you and I think we're about to see a huge amount of releases now that there are more and more record pressing plants in operation.
Totally agree. And thanks for watching!
"99% will be reissued" - this may be the case for mainstream Americana, not for the rest of the world. And often the reissue is so small and so obscure, it is never stocked by major online sellers, so the market (if it exists) is "secondary" from the very start. One of my favourite albums ever was reissued in 2018 in Estonia... just how many copies did they press and where are those copies? (discogs says 5 users "have it", no transactions on record)
Correct, like I said...99% of the mainstream releases will be reissued, not obscure/niche albums
@@NTXVinyl An album can be mainstream and niche at the same time, can it not?
I'm still waiting for the re-release of Matia Bazar's Tango. No LPs pressed since 1991. As mainstream as it gets - top of 1983, no. 72 in Rolling Stones 100 Italian all-time. But there's not much demand and sealed Japanese NOS are still available at reasonable prices.
100%. It happens with popular Australian bands too.
Without proof that a reissue is coming, then patience is extremely difficult to come by. I went the bootleg route on an album recently, only to recently hear that a reissue is coming in just a few months. Since there was no guarantee of a reissue at the time, i pulled the trigger on the boot. If i had known, I would have waited. Seems like the record companies should be more informative of their reissue plans. If it takes forever to get a record pressed, then this means they would have known long ago it was in the works. Why don't they let the record community know? Just a blurb, "Hey, next summer expect a reissue of xyz album". Put it on the radar so we dont waste our money on a boot or an original press.
That will never happen. Because plans change, roadblocks appear, and they’d only be shooting themselves in the foot by mentioning something, but not taking pre-orders.
I've been patiently waiting for the 1978, 1979, and 1980 Journey albums to get remastered and pressed again. I'm hopeful that they will eventually. It's nice seeing the 1981 Escape LP and then just this last week the 1983 Frontiers LP remastered and available again. Those were 40th anniversary editions but there has still been no remaster or anything done on Infinity, Evolution, or Departure yet. But I'll keep patiently waiting and hoping that changes someday soon 👍
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Yeah was glad to see Frontiers as well! Hopefully a sign they are working their way back to the entire catalog
I have an original 1975 copy of their debut self titled that I would love to see a remaster and repressing of. One of my favorite records because not only is it some of their absolute best work, it's an album that no one knows by a band that everyone knows. Same story with 39/Smooth by Green Day.
@@claytonburnwick9548 I remember the first time I heard Kohoutek. I always thought that was an awesome track as well as Topaz, Of A Lifetime, and To Play Some Music. To Play Some Music was incredible when they did it live and added a lot more guitar in it. That first album was a definite gem.
As you said, this may well be true for records that sell in the XK copies range, but not for the smaller items. Some artists have even explicitly stated that they will NEVER re-press certain albums (e.g. Keluar) b/c of baggage associated with it. Then there is also the cover art issue. I have seen quite a few records where the cover art of the re-issue is a train wreck, e.g., Charged G.B.H. City Baby Attacked By Rats RSD re-issue: just horrible in color and moirée patterns. Even The Ex "Blueprints for a Black Out", re-issued by the band on their own label (!), the cover art is a far cry from the OG. Even my "expensive" records are
Absolutely. Niche/obscure pressings are a completely different discussion. Appreciate the comment!
any worthwhile collection requires skill and learning the ropes. This beginner advice has merit, but no tape lasts forever , and many were lost in a big repository fire. So some copies today are made from the best available copy, just like they put together old films. If a record is selling for an unusual price, it is probably for a valid reason , but not something that everyone needs to buy unless it satisfies a specific goal for the buyer. .
Sing the sorrow is the first record that came to mind for me . I never thought I’d have it til they re pressed it
Yup….they will all become avail.
I have been patiently waiting for reissues of the first 3 Danzig albums. I hope you're right.
I hope so too!
You're certainly not wrong, when it comes to the value of some reissues over original presses. Some reissues are excellent (for example, I've gotten a couple of Record Store Day reissues of Richard Hell albums and Stooges albums and and Lou Reed albums and so on that it could be argued are better than the originals, either because of extra cuts included or a particularly good remastering job applied. But there are some albums that, if you can find an original press, are just worth it to say you have it. Sometimes it's worth it to be able to say that you searched for this album or that album; sometimes the story of the search for a record enriches it just a little more.
Completely agree. I love chasing down originals, but I’ve been at this 30 years. For someone that just started it can be a defeating task
What you didn't touch on is the topic of limited editions, online store only editions, RSD etc etc. Take Taylor Swifts latest 1989 re-issue (which I support her 100% on her project); she has multiple album colours, but more importantly (for me at least), multiple album jacket covers. This speaks to the collectability of these albums and thus driving prices ever higher. These types of "collectables" have the tendency to raise the prices of all albums on the secondary market.
I would honestly put Swift (and her fans/fandom) in an entirely different category on it's own. No other artist even comes close in regards to quantity sold and general interest.
GI, 61 yr old avid sub here. I have the entire Aerosmith discography in 1st press orig release. I want to add this recent 2023 release; Greatest Hits Deluxe 4LP, Box Set, but cannot find out anywhere if it is "remastered". I don't purchase remasters for personal reasons. I am wondering if you know if this set is remastered? Thanks, LUV your channel. ( Also, do you sell this unit?)
Hello there! Unfortunately the 4LP set is back ordered everywhere.
As for remastering. I can guarantee you just about every reissue is remastered. That’s a good thing, as it insures the sound will be consistent and balanced. Especially in the case of a compilation, where the audio is coming from different albums, eras, and sources. Remastering is critical to get volume levels and dynamics normalized between tracks. It’s not changing the “mix” or music in anyway - it’s just making sure it sounds great on the vinyl format
The repressing of AIC Unplugged is taking its time
It’ll come.
Nice shirt!
Thanks!
Modern re-pressings come slowly. I'm patient enough to wait because I wait long times to find original pressings/early re-pressings on the used market.
Used prices are now ridiculous, but the caveat with waiting for a modern re-pressing to come out is that the price will be $35 and up, not much different from the used prices. By the way, the used market prices are 100% artificial. That $10 record is really only worth about $3 or $4, that $50 record is really only worth about $10 and so on.
"Value" is determined by the market and the buyer, period. Just because you say or think a record is worth XYZ is meaningless. Look at Discogs and eBay sold prices. That's reality, as it's a reflection of what people are willing to pay, worldwide.
Yes, it is what people are willing to pay, but for me personally even my $250 mint/never played numbered box set of Mannheim Steamroller (still going for that price after 38 years per Discogs) is worth about $10 to me (I paid about $43) and if I were to sell it, that is how much I would get for it no matter what price tag I put on it (I would likely put a tag of $10 on it anyway because I'm a realist). However, I prefer to give records away rather than try sell them personally. I never buy with intent to sell so I don't care what they are worth according to market because those are false numbers. Records are worth more when one is trying to buy them and worth far less when one goes to sell them even if never played and hermetically sealed.
What is a "record collector" i have 2000 records, i do not really think of myself as a collector per se, i am a vinyl purchaser/player. I guess i do have few rare ones i buy for there value (i do listen to them) but mostly i just buy records to listen to them. As far as reissues go, i am only interested in all AAA pressings so given the choice i will pay more for an OG AAA because i do NOT want a reissue that is from digital files.
Don’t know the genres you buy are, I’m mostly jazz, all the reissues from the big players are AAA and in most cases a significant improvement over the originals as many YT Vloggers confirm.
A collector to me is simply someone who owns many similar things that closely relate to each other. So…owning 2000 records would certainly make you a collector.
Ok, I'm looking at you Alice In Chains "Unplugged" "Sap" and "Jar of Flies".... Trying to be patient waiting for Unplugged. Hasn't had a release since 2010. Are they waiting until 2026 for the 30th anniversary? Geez, I hope not. Currently $200+ on Discogs, prob worse other places. Another title that would be amazing "Temple of the Dog - Live". There might be some bootlegs out there, but what an amazing album it "could" be if PJ decided to do it along with the family of Chris Cornell. Some amazing videos/recordings from Alpine Valley and other places exist. Would be fantastic if they could cull the best and put out an album. There's some on the Chris Cornell Box Set, but I'd love a full album... and throw in a couple Love Bone covers too!
Yeah AIC is a prime example. Sure the last official reissue is from 2010, but it was readily avail for $30 up through 2021 or so. That contract expired and I’m sure they are contemplating their next move for another edition. Dirt was in the same boat. They chose to do that one first. They will all happen. 100%
A collector wants the OG, otherwise he is not a real collector. All this reissues are just a money making scam, mostly digital, pumped up bass, ....The record industry always will give you what you want, but if you are smart, you don't fall into this. The OG is the real thing, the rest is a copy for the ones who want a short cut into collecting. And don't get me started on the real reason why most reissues sound fake. It has not to be a first pressing, but from the time the record came out, if possible from the country where the masters are stored.
We will agree to disagree on basically everything you said 🤝
@@NTXVinyl Yes, i agree to that. I think your opinion depends on your taste, I am a Jazz collector and with Jazz I know I am right. My OG´s blow away any Tone Poet or Classic BN. I am a musician all my live, so I can put some weight to my opinion.
I am a Soul collector from the UK, mostly American releases & agree with your analysis regarding reissues. Original all day long.
There is no mention of cd's in the video, which was the real reason for the sales of vinyl slowing in the 90's. You also could not buy a decent record player without going to specialist stores back then.
I love jazz. Only have been into it for 5 years or so. But have a nice collection of about 150 classic jazz albums. Some of them are recent reissues and sound absolutely fantastic. But I’m not a “real collector” because of that? Ludacris
@@NTXVinyl You are a real collector, but you don't have much experience in comparing Jazz record pressings. Why always so dramatic? "So I am not a collector?" It is about experience, that's all. I am a Jazz musician all my live, I play and record professional since 40 years, I played with some big cats, I teached my instrument at the university, I do nothing but Jazz in my live. I know how a cymbal should sound, I listened to the real cymbal for more than 3000 gigs. There is absolutely no chance, that you even come close to what I know, I am a real expert. And claiming that is a risk today, because it is not appropriate to say that, but it is what it is.