@@jrblackify True - my point was it still features uncut clips of him resting, breathing, building anticipation for the next stage, and shows how the climb actually went. With this video I still don't really know much about the route at all. I'm not after a move-for-move beta but would have been nice to see him climb more than one hold before cutting
Also doesn't this achievement DESERVE more than 5-6 mins airtime? damn if I climbed that and had a video about it i'd be PISSED that it was edited so short
@Walter Lotte Okey maybe I coulda picked a better example, I guess was just using silence as I knew loads of people would have seen it also. And whilst not perfect it does a better job than this 😄
Hey North Face.. thanks for putting your money on the line to make climbing videos, but please listen to what actual climbers (read: people who actually buy your products) are saying: stop producing overly slick, quick cut climbing videos. Or, at the very least, show the actual climb at the end without rapid cuts. We are here for climbing, not to watch MTV music videos. Thanks again!
great ascent Stefano! @the north face: Thanks for making this video, but please also show the uncut version of the ascen and give Alex Megos some credit for making the first ascent! Even if he is not on the north face team, you could at least mention his name in the text at the end.. credit where credit is due
drew13600 I was only saying it’s common practice to note the first person to send the route. It’s cool Sharma bolted it and that he’s involved in the video. Just felt a caption would give props where due.
Megos pays homage in at least one of his videos to Sharma for bolting and breaking ground on it, but as far as The North Face is concerned, Megos is the Patagonia poster boy.
I'm here rewatching this after Ondra's tries and still can't believe how you can edit something so poorly. They cut off like half of the moves and the whole section after the pinch, where Shubert fell at every move before actually sending this thing. Unbelievable.
i watched a similar video of Stefano climbing at the Red River Gorge in Kentucky and it was the same thing. Choppy, edited clips of the climb that chunked out some of the best movements on the wall. its a shame
Bad ethic not to mention (even in a subtitle) who the first ascensionist was, just because he is sponsored by another brand. Shame on you. Include Alex Megos in video description or pinned comment at least now.
Why would he mention that? Adam Ondra doesn't mention every previous ascent for the routes he tries either. It's well-known, everyone can google it and find these kind of information.
@@tdsdesa They mention Chris Sharma (sponsored by the same brand). Alex Megos was the only one who climbed it before. There was only one climb up to date, and they mention Chris and no Alex.
The style of this climb is very similar to the first 9a climb in the world, i.e. Action Directe in Frankenjura, only significantly longer. Repeating that climb was Alex Megos early breakthrough achievement so it is not surprising that he also did this one. As many others here have mentioned we are still waiting for other top climbers to invest the effort needed to repeat more of Adam Ondra's Flatanger test pieces! Seb Bouin finally did Move 9b/+ and then looked at Silence, but after 7 years there has still not been any real tries to repeat Change, the first 9b+ in the world. I have a feeling that the crux roof shoulder moves into shallow groves have intimidated most of the climbers who have climbed other 9b+ routes.
love this comment! year old so you probably know, but funny enough that Stefano is actually working Change right now! he has done the first anchor (which includes the shoulder move youre talking about) and found slightly different beta which is cool. check his insta!
@@davidlight3546 Thanks a lot for the tip! This was the final straw that caused me to register for IG, just so I could follow his progress. Even if he found a slightly different beta for that crux move, I haven't seen any indication from him, or anyone else, that the route should be downgraded. :-) Going 8 years before the first serious repeat attempt is pretty hard core. BTW, when I climbed the first Norwegian grade 8 (probably about 7b) in Trondheim in 1981, nobody wanted to try to repeat it for 3-4 years, then a rockfall exposed a new hold which removed the crux 1.5m catch, and so it got downgraded with zero actual repeats. :-)
Other people are saying it as well. Less cuts. More continuous shots, please! And less terrible music. The people that are here watching this have attention spans longer than a few minutes. We'd love a 15-30 minute video on these awesome ascents.
The footage looks great, but please release some longer format uncut videos of these climbs. This is the direction climbing media is moving, most climbers are sick of the Hollywood quick cut movie trailer style videos.
Couldn´t get any of the feelings, emotions, sounds of this impressive climb. Why this action style, cropped Video with such loud music. Seems its how climbing videos are done these days ... surely generates click, but to be honest ... I realy don´t like it.
@@hornycar9786 mellow is the only climbing brand that doesnt neglect the actual CLIMBING. sorry but idgaf about how the climb makes a climber feel if i cant even watch the climbing
For people complaining about the montage : I don't think the North Face produced this video for hardcore climbers but as a promotional event to build up their adventurous image, they are on new markets now.
Why is no one talking about "Artaburu" in Margalef, sent by Iker Pou a few months ago? It's graded "way harder than any other 9b I've climbed before" and so far no repetitions...
3:08 he use a very high left foothold... 4:44 use other holds... even in sharma trys you can se another option... Im curious about how many trys take to ondra to do this route, and if maybe he can do staticly...
@@CycloPioneer he says it was well hard and he couldn't do any of the sections yet let alone link it together. Also it's worth noting that silence is a very pericular style of climbing so I can't see everyone flocking to try it as would take a long time just to get used to the style. We need to see some 9C routes put up on my normal style walls. I would love to see other climbers trying La Dura Dura as well!
thank god the north face didnt film Free Solo. Would have been a 3 minute video of Alex climbing the first 10 feet and then cut straight to the first 2 minutes of his hike back down the mountain after topping out.
What a shame not showing the uncut send. I still do not understand why all of these companies North Face, Black Diamond, National G.... always do such frustrating videos. I have watched this video only once and I don't think, it shows more than 2 consecutive moves.
Well for everyone complaining about the choppy editing, I for one, really loved the music in this video. I'd be more interested in knowing which songs were used than watching the actual full climb, but obviously it is a bit silly to show very little climbing in a climbing video.
Congratulations for Stefano for this great ascent! Nevertheless this video is not telling the whole story: Megos did the 1st. ascent after a long time since this line was tried by many of the world's best climbers! It is a big shame that this wasn't even mentioned in this video. It's even more questionable that some comments under this topic assume, that this was the first ascent. It wasn't! I was expecting more professionality and sportsmanship from North Face. Telling half of the truth is not much difference to telling not the truth ...
I still don't understand how people can climb a wall that over hangs like that. It makes no sense to me. I can barely make it up a ladder that's leaning forward against something
Why does every video have to be choppy and 5 mins? Would have loved to see him climbing the whole route - think the Adam Ondra silence documentary.
The Silence vid starts at the V15 crux, omitting the 8b moves to the first kneebar.
Yeah I want to see an uncut video of this
@@jrblackify True - my point was it still features uncut clips of him resting, breathing, building anticipation for the next stage, and shows how the climb actually went. With this video I still don't really know much about the route at all. I'm not after a move-for-move beta but would have been nice to see him climb more than one hold before cutting
Also doesn't this achievement DESERVE more than 5-6 mins airtime? damn if I climbed that and had a video about it i'd be PISSED that it was edited so short
@Walter Lotte Okey maybe I coulda picked a better example, I guess was just using silence as I knew loads of people would have seen it also. And whilst not perfect it does a better job than this 😄
Hey North Face.. thanks for putting your money on the line to make climbing videos, but please listen to what actual climbers (read: people who actually buy your products) are saying: stop producing overly slick, quick cut climbing videos. Or, at the very least, show the actual climb at the end without rapid cuts. We are here for climbing, not to watch MTV music videos. Thanks again!
Whelm King real talk
MTV? What's that??
I kid...and agree.
I'll now again go to adam ondra's video of silence to get the atmosphere for goosebumps and tears lol
Well said!
It's The North Face lol
Silence is waiting for you
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lll000lll lol no it’s not cuz Adam ondra glued the crux holds so bad that not even he himself can climb it again lmaooooo
@@kanepowell6521 you're probably right! Also the echoing of Adam's screams could be an issue!
was thinking the exact same!
@@kanepowell6521 A clueless boulderer here. What do you mean he glued the holds?
4:18 best technique i have learned from a video
haha same here
lol I was thinking the same thing
It's called a "rodeo clip". Google it if you want some cheesy tutorials! :)
@@jrblackify Nice! Doing so now, that's my afternoon gone!
@@jrblackify This is not a rodeo clip. Maybe a variation of it.
great ascent Stefano! @the north face: Thanks for making this video, but please also show the uncut version of the ascen and give Alex Megos some credit for making the first ascent! Even if he is not on the north face team, you could at least mention his name in the text at the end.. credit where credit is due
ure screaming at the void mate
Shame to not see any credit for FA by Megos last year.
Amazing Line though.
drew13600 I was only saying it’s common practice to note the first person to send the route. It’s cool Sharma bolted it and that he’s involved in the video. Just felt a caption would give props where due.
Yeah, they made it seem like Sharma climbed it first, but he never was able to do it.
Megos pays homage in at least one of his videos to Sharma for bolting and breaking ground on it, but as far as The North Face is concerned, Megos is the Patagonia poster boy.
I'm here rewatching this after Ondra's tries and still can't believe how you can edit something so poorly. They cut off like half of the moves and the whole section after the pinch, where Shubert fell at every move before actually sending this thing. Unbelievable.
i watched a similar video of Stefano climbing at the Red River Gorge in Kentucky and it was the same thing. Choppy, edited clips of the climb that chunked out some of the best movements on the wall. its a shame
Give us an uncut video of the route, that's all we really want.
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I'm so glad they introduced Chris Sharma as "Climbing Legend"
Awesome! He forgot to mention the first crux at 4:20.
Pretty strange that you didn't mention that Alex Megos has made the first ascent ...
Alex Megos is sponsored by für hippy Brand patagonia, that für reason
OUTRAGEOUS...
and Megos did it in 2 weeks wtf!!
that‘s just next next next next level shittttt
Wow, how amazing that the body can do the impossible. Truly inspiring. Great job filming and climbing.
Bad ethic not to mention (even in a subtitle) who the first ascensionist was, just because he is sponsored by another brand. Shame on you. Include Alex Megos in video description or pinned comment at least now.
Why would he mention that? Adam Ondra doesn't mention every previous ascent for the routes he tries either. It's well-known, everyone can google it and find these kind of information.
@@tdsdesa They mention Chris Sharma (sponsored by the same brand). Alex Megos was the only one who climbed it before. There was only one climb up to date, and they mention Chris and no Alex.
The style of this climb is very similar to the first 9a climb in the world, i.e. Action Directe in Frankenjura, only significantly longer. Repeating that climb was Alex Megos early breakthrough achievement so it is not surprising that he also did this one.
As many others here have mentioned we are still waiting for other top climbers to invest the effort needed to repeat more of Adam Ondra's Flatanger test pieces! Seb Bouin finally did Move 9b/+ and then looked at Silence, but after 7 years there has still not been any real tries to repeat Change, the first 9b+ in the world. I have a feeling that the crux roof shoulder moves into shallow groves have intimidated most of the climbers who have climbed other 9b+ routes.
love this comment! year old so you probably know, but funny enough that Stefano is actually working Change right now! he has done the first anchor (which includes the shoulder move youre talking about) and found slightly different beta which is cool. check his insta!
@@davidlight3546 Thanks a lot for the tip! This was the final straw that caused me to register for IG, just so I could follow his progress. Even if he found a slightly different beta for that crux move, I haven't seen any indication from him, or anyone else, that the route should be downgraded. :-)
Going 8 years before the first serious repeat attempt is pretty hard core.
BTW, when I climbed the first Norwegian grade 8 (probably about 7b) in Trondheim in 1981, nobody wanted to try to repeat it for 3-4 years, then a rockfall exposed a new hold which removed the crux 1.5m catch, and so it got downgraded with zero actual repeats. :-)
Sad for the fast montage and the little typo at the end :p but great video! sick route, sick effort
Grande ste! Sei un esempio da seguire con la tua determinazione!
Can someone hook me up with the name of the song from 4:20 on?
I would really like to jam out to it.
Was wondering the same thing! I tried to Shazam with no luck.....
Other people are saying it as well. Less cuts. More continuous shots, please! And less terrible music. The people that are here watching this have attention spans longer than a few minutes. We'd love a 15-30 minute video on these awesome ascents.
5:00 music ID please?
the whole send would be welcome.
Welllll DONE, Stefano !
The footage looks great, but please release some longer format uncut videos of these climbs. This is the direction climbing media is moving, most climbers are sick of the Hollywood quick cut movie trailer style videos.
Great Stefano! Spectacular line. Hopefully in other videos like this
Does anyone know what is the music starting at 2:46?
Couldn´t get any of the feelings, emotions, sounds of this impressive climb. Why this action style, cropped Video with such loud music. Seems its how climbing videos are done these days ... surely generates click, but to be honest ... I realy don´t like it.
There is still hope : look at Mellow, or Adam Ondra's video !
@@hornycar9786 mellow is the only climbing brand that doesnt neglect the actual CLIMBING. sorry but idgaf about how the climb makes a climber feel if i cant even watch the climbing
Un bel video e grandissimo Ghisolfi ,per la super riuscita per l'umiltà e perché sei italianoo
Grande Stefano!
For people complaining about the montage : I don't think the North Face produced this video for hardcore climbers but as a promotional event to build up their adventurous image, they are on new markets now.
For god's sake if you have the footage of the climb just show it UNCUT
Or post this slick, overly produced video... and ALSO post the uncut!
Great line Stefano, keep on crushing
Who is seeing this video, after seeing Adam Ondra's videos of perfecto mundo ? Gj Stefano !
Grande Stefano!! Incredible moves, great job!!! 💪
Great video and great climbing! Grande Ste!
Italian Pride! Grazie Ste ❤️
Grazie 🙏
Hadn't alex megos make the second ascent a few weeks earlier? Or was that the FA?
Megos was FA and it was last year
Shame on the editors that they didn't mention the FA at all
Why is no one talking about "Artaburu" in Margalef, sent by Iker Pou a few months ago? It's graded "way harder than any other 9b I've climbed before" and so far no repetitions...
3:08 he use a very high left foothold... 4:44 use other holds... even in sharma trys you can se another option...
Im curious about how many trys take to ondra to do this route, and if maybe he can do staticly...
Ondra never did this route
Cool observations.
These 9b+ climbs are special, many of them look to an observer excruciating. Would have liked to see the full climb though uninterrupted.
Wow that editing. We just want to watch the climbing for gawdsake 😲
What a fantastic line and an incredible achievement. Well done Stefano! More of this please!
Amazing video!
Amazing!!! Go get La Dura Dura now ;) I would like to se that!
What/Where is the first route we see him climb in this video?
Why do brands still put music on videos? When will they learn that we want uncut full and nomusic ascends with eventual zoom ins on the harder holds?
Qualcuno sa dirmi che falesia sia quella a 00:15 ?
A quando silence?
More uncut climbing footage please
Love the north face.
Che stile... 💪💪💪
Amazing video, amazing ruote, amazing climber!!
Beautiful story about what a human can do!
Music please :)
The full video of the whole route is on EpicTV Italia's channel, at this link: ruclips.net/video/0m4_fxmDK5c/видео.html
You done Stefano dirty there THN
Epic video and climbing
super congrats!!!
4:20
Has he tried Silence in Flatanger ?
nope. AFAIK only Seb Bouin has.
@@denislejeune9218 how did he do on it?
@@CycloPioneer he says it was well hard and he couldn't do any of the sections yet let alone link it together. Also it's worth noting that silence is a very pericular style of climbing so I can't see everyone flocking to try it as would take a long time just to get used to the style. We need to see some 9C routes put up on my normal style walls. I would love to see other climbers trying La Dura Dura as well!
@@thorna100 there's some truth there, but climbing the other flatanger routes provides good training for the peculiarities of Silence.
What shoes he use ?
B thx bro!!!i love you!!!!
Brilliant video :) Well done Stefano
La Norvegia ti chiama Stefano. Pero' benfatto!! Che bella via!
Please upload a (almost) no cut Video without any sound effects/music!
Ok, since your not at your limit, now I wanna see a repeat of La Dura Dura!
Grande Ste!!!
La King Line aspetta...
Welcome to the most elite clubs of hard sports climbing
Keren! Music nya hade pisan! 🇮🇩
Grande Stefano!!!!! 👍
Grandeeee!!!
POSSO METTERVI IN UN POST?
Yes
ninguna palabra sobre Megos=1.ascent!!
That 1 finger pocket screams injuries to me
thank god the north face didnt film Free Solo. Would have been a 3 minute video of Alex climbing the first 10 feet and then cut straight to the first 2 minutes of his hike back down the mountain after topping out.
Grande!!!
Grande Stefano orgoglio italiano 🇮🇹
big up!
What a shame not showing the uncut send. I still do not understand why all of these companies North Face, Black Diamond, National G.... always do such frustrating videos. I have watched this video only once and I don't think, it shows more than 2 consecutive moves.
this is how climbing videos shouldn't be like
Mado mi vien quasi da piangere. Che spettacolo
Alee Ste!
Well for everyone complaining about the choppy editing, I for one, really loved the music in this video. I'd be more interested in knowing which songs were used than watching the actual full climb, but obviously it is a bit silly to show very little climbing in a climbing video.
I guess we could have a better video WITH actual credit for the song and the awesome guy that did the FA. Join us in the complaining ! ^^
4:19 😳
Congratulations for Stefano for this great ascent! Nevertheless this video is not telling the whole story: Megos did the 1st. ascent after a long time since this line was tried by many of the world's best climbers! It is a big shame that this wasn't even mentioned in this video. It's even more questionable that some comments under this topic assume, that this was the first ascent. It wasn't! I was expecting more professionality and sportsmanship from North Face. Telling half of the truth is not much difference to telling not the truth ...
I still don't understand how people can climb a wall that over hangs like that. It makes no sense to me. I can barely make it up a ladder that's leaning forward against something
They did a little bit of promotion for this video on social media so I was expecting some sick footage... I was pretty disappointed. Sick send though!
Spain is beautiful !!!!
Keep pushing 🤤🤤🤤
TNF needs to learn from BD on how to make a climbing video
god level is on
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Really poor choice on production style north face. It was just a long promo cut. Where’s the climb?
Expensive looking shots, amazing angles on climber but the music feels cheap and a little distracting
poor edit - horrible music - bad style not to mention the first ascentionist!
shhh..... silence
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Can we not with the music