This is one of the better walkthroughs in the sailing channels. Clear, concise, practical. I'd have the jacklines up the middle of the boat myself but I've seen it both ways. Cheers from Gisborne/Toronto.
As a wannabee Sailor, after watching this I feel like my "learning about boats" has taken a huge leap forward. So many interesting hints and tips here. Thankyou! Great to learn about the batteries and various line-types ;)
Hi, It is an amazingly well designed boat with your very sensible improvements, I really enjoy your channel and look forward to each new episode and share your adventures remotely from Australia, well done and safe passages..cheers Brian
Thanks for the boat tour, always nice to see people’s different setups, we have a 36CC Beneteau, hopefully we,ll go back to sailing when this virus thing clears out a bit more.
Incredibly helpful to me as I consider what to bring with and what may need an upgrade or fix. I look forward to checking out your other posts. Thanks and good sailing.
Excellent walk through which we can really relate to since we also have a Beneteau. Your comment about the autopilot high power consumption is very valid. We couldn’t believe the power used especially in high seas.!
FYI... Your Boat Tour popped up as recommended viewing today (July 1st) in Canada. As a sailor I follow most of the sailing channels so I was surprised to see I had missed you. Great walk-through of your Oceanis. I look forward to catching up on your past videos and following along as you continue your adventure.
Purchased a relatively identical 2001 Beneteau 361 in July. Looking forward to viewing all of your videos. Boat is kept in the upper Chesapeake Bay USA. Plan on taking it to Bermuda and down to the Caribbean at some point. Thanks for the walkthrough. Already have given some ideas. Cheers.
Fantastic video! Great to see people taking a generic weekender and converting it to a legitimate blue water boat. Good for you, I hope you are loving your trip
Thanks for the tour guys. My empathetic side wants you to be able to cross Panama as soon as possible, but the fun lover in me wants to see as many videos from you two as I can. I'm in a tough spot 😁 Stay safe and healthy!
Just found your channel and will add you to my list of sailing vlogs to follow from now on. I have a 352 and reviewed your boat tour with high interest to see what I can copy. Thanks and all the best from Chesapeake, Maryland!
We had the same 361 and earlier, a 1994 351...loved them both, but would have never considered them true blue water boats.. We did a lot of coastal cruising in both. I now have much more respect for those stock Benetaus thanks to you guys !
"Keyboards" (or "piano") is a racing term for the whole bank of clutches. Usually there is a dedicated crew member, the "pit", who operates these and with all the pole up, pole down, outhaul, various halyards etc. they end up looking like Rick Wakeman in full flow.
Lovely video... it’s not easy your English for me 😂😂😂 anyhow in France the call piano instead of keyboard, in Italian I’ve no idea and it’s my mother language! 😱
Hi, enjoyed the tour. Noticed your mainsail slugs. Recommend two on the headboard - we were happy to have fitted two when one failed at sea. Search 'slug' on our blog for details. Cheers from two Aussies still in the UK.
We love your videos, they bring joy to our lockdown days. It would be good to have a video about your backgrounds and in particular your sailing experience. Those of us that dream of setting sail across the globe often wonder how much sailing experience is required.
You should both be very proud of how well appointed your little vessel is. I've been going to sea for over 20 years and am a ship captain in the merchant marine, the simple tweaks like having the EPIRB within hands reach of your companionway and moving the extinguisher to a safe location can be very subtle changes that may very well save your life. Always dreamed of learning to sail and constantly haunt youtube for these types of videos but the salt in this one kept me on the hook from beginning to end, now a subscriber, keep up the good work!
nice precise tour and i love the practical way you have modified the boat and from the way you talk about it we can feel you love it . did you do any modifications on the rigging of the boat? reinforced any of it ?safe sailing
👌👏👏👏👏👏 Excellent, simple and complete. Someday consider adding an SSB radio and a pactor, as a redundant system to the iridium, that will give you a great peace of mind. Enjoy !! Congrats from Spain!!!
Thank you for posting this. I am currently upgrading a Gib Sea 402 for an ocean passage and I gleaned a lot from your tour. Picked up a lot tips. I don’t mean to be bossy but do you have a video where you reveal the costs or budget? You mentioned that the frame for the solar panel was expensive but I would be interested to know how much. I am moored in Tokyo bay and with my limited jp language i cannot always get the estimates i need. Btw, for climbing the mast I use ATN Mastclimber. It’s great .
Thanks for this video! Where did you fit the spare water blader on the port side? Did you increase the permanent fuel capacity as well? Cheers! Richard
Woo hoo found new sailing vloggers to follow! You've done a fab job of converting her to blue water but wondering how the boat feels in heavy seas? Do you ever wish you'd bought a heavier boat? I'm torn between a boat that's comfortable to live on in the tropics and one that makes me feel very safe and steady at sea.
It's true a lighter boat gets bounced around more, but Bacchus has never made us feel unsafe. On our most recent passage from French Polynesia to New Zealand, we had winds of 30 (and at one point over 40) knots - Bacchus took it all in her stride.
Hi guys, I have been watching from the beginning and really enjoy your channel. Your intro talks about leaving the UK and traveling back home onboard Bacchus. Do you plan on continuing to sail once you reach home or will that be the end of your adventures?
Getting to NZ will mark the completion of this adventure. There will be new adventures in the future I’m certain, but our plan at this stage is to get to NZ, build a home, and put down some roots there. I’m sure we’ll go sailing again one day though!
What type of hanks do you use on your staysail? If you don’t use the shower how do you take showers ?great video well done and informative. Thank you for taking the time.
Love the dyneema forestay! Do you have pictures of how you fitted the top of the mast? We will probably copy this invention... Great USB and Guitar placements as well! How do you fix the bamboo spinnaker pole ends? What's the BBQ brand? How much spare diesel do you carry? The 75L tank is quite limiting for us..
Hi! For the top of the forestay, we riveted a tang into the mast - helpfully there was already a slot cut in the front of the mast, about 500mm below the masthead, above where the spinnaker pole uphaul comes out. We then used a dyneema terminal from Bluewave, which is a super-easy way to attach dyneema standing rigging. You just splice a loop in the end, insert the stainless “bail”, then screw the whole thing together. Link to the product here: www.sky-international.com/product/blue-wave-rope-fork-terminals/ The fork then goes onto the tang with a regular clevis pin. RE bamboo pole - On the mast end of the bamboo, I’ve just drilled a hole through it and attached a short length of line. I just tie it to the mast with a couple of hitches! (tied to the mount where the regular spinnaker pole would attach). Nothing fancy but it works a treat. BBQ is a Kiwi Sizzler. A great bit of NZ engineering that I bought over as excess luggage on a Singapore Airlines flight several years ago. The bloke at check-in was thoroughly unimpressed when my 35kg “suitcase” turned out to be less of a suitcase and more of a box, containing a BBQ, an angle grinder, a drill, and various bits of rigging and tackle that I’d scrounged from my dad’s shed. Repacking was demanded, and various fees and charges were levied! Cooks a good steak though...
RE diesel, yeah the 361 has a very small tank! We only carry another 70L in jerry cans, so we don’t have the long range that some yachts have. We’re out here to sail though, so we don’t mind.
Question about your choice of boat...any particular reason for Bacchus. I’ve been watching your channel with interest as maybe I have wrongly assumed that Beneteau don’t have a great reputation for quality...I’ve heard and read in multiple places about Beneteaus loosing their rudder at sea for no apparent reason...even caused the sinking of 2 boats...all out there on google. So my point is I’ve been somewhat put off by these observations. Did any of these things factor in your decision making? People I’ve spoken to always swear by rudder on skeg so far less chance of loosing the rudder. I’d like to hear your perspective.
Probably the best boat tour video out there! Would you mind telling us what percentage of your purchase price did you spend getting it fitted for cruising? Thanks and great video!
Hi folks. Very useful video and entertaining. Beneteau did a great job with design and you have done a very good job outfitting Baccus. I have some of the same gear on my C&C 35 such as the Raymarine instruments and autopilot. I picked up a number of very useful tips. One question: what are your thoughts on a fin keel and spade rudder for blue water sailing?
Ahh, yes, that old chestnut! I've done all my offshore miles on modern-design yachts with fins and spades. I appreciate there is a risk of damage to those appendages (which in the worst case can be catastrophic) but plenty of yachts are out there doing it successfully. Just look at the designs entered in the ARC each year - a vast majority are fin-and-spade configuration. The extra speed you get from a modern hull, especially in light airs, means faster passages, which contributes to safety too. Each to their own I guess!
@@sailingbacchushome944 Your thoughts are very much in agreement with mine. At about 14,000 lbs displacement how does your boat handle rough seas? Regards, AL.
Far out guys - great overview of your waka. Do you have any further plans to create a larger solar array or maybe install a water maker? I actually enjoyed your video and will keep tabs no doubt on your adventures!
Awsome boat tour. I think that was the first tour I have seen that really shows the storage under the seats and in the floor. I do have a question for you, my antenna for my old chart plotter died. I was thinking of doing exactly what you are doing, Navionics on my tablet and a backup handheld GPS. Have you noticed any limitations with not having a chart plotter? Thank you so much and I really enjoy your videos!
I've certainly not missed the old chartplotter which we removed. Navionics does just about everything you need, for a fraction of the cost, and I think it's easier and more intuitive to use than a chartplotter. Tablets are so cheap now, we carry two, in case one dies (as well as the handheld GPS). Navionics now lets you use the same subscription across multiple devices, so no extra costs from them.
@@sailingbacchushome944 Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question. I truly appreciate it. I may remove the chart plotter tomorrow. Thank you again and safe and healthy sailing.
Yeah, the centre cockpit designs do give plenty of room in the back, and I think you stay quite dry at the helm, being up higher than an aft cockpit. I've not been on board a 36CC before though.
Another great video. I have the same boat and was particularly interested to hear about your batteries. You mentioned what you have for the service batteries, but what have you got for the engine battery?
Hey I was thinking of berthing in newhaven and was wondering if you had any problems leaving when the tide was low. Also do you mind if I ask how much did you pay for your solar panel frame. Great episode by the way.
We were actually berthed in Brighton but did have some days where we had to wait a while to get in (or out) of the marina. Gosh, the solar panel itself wasnt too expensive, a couple of hundred quid but the stainless steel frame for it was the expensive part (which we got made in Newhaven)
Thanks, glad you like her - we certainly do! Haha, I made the ipad holder right before we left Tenerife. Before, we had just kept the ipad in a waterproof case, but it was always in danger of being dropped, or sat on. I looked at some mounting products online, but they were all quite expensive. I had some scraps of wood left over from the Hydrovane installation, and I just hollowed out a recess on the back of each one with an angle grinder and a chisel, then screwed them onto the bulkhead. The ipad drops into the holder from the top, and I wedge a small square of leather into one corner so it can't move. It took a bit of trial and error to get the fit right, but it's quite secure there now.
Sailing Bacchus Home Thanks for the swift reply... I noticed a “ Pornic” post card below which is only 45 min away, and I would of (or wood have) gladly helped you out!.. stay safe !
Love the video. I’ve owned a 361 for 19 years and it was great to see how you upgraded yours. I am curious, where did you put the extra house batteries?
That’s it! And we then had extra space under the companionway stairs (where the old batts were) - we’ve now got boxes there with engine spares and tools.
We got one of those windscreen-cleaning squeegee brushes with a telescopic handle! £10 on Amazon, packs away nice and small. It works well for the solar panel.
one of the few channels where you sound knowledgeable, my biggest question is why a 361, i mean i know it will get you across the trades no problem , but tonga > NZ is not a stretch of water for a boat like this. What was your thinking behind this choice over something with less capsize potential? Also good to see those sail cars, I thought the ones on wheels only worked on a batton car track so I learned something new today :) They defo come in handy when reefing while running.
Question about the boat. Are those the top of the keel bolts in the bilge where you keep the spare chain. Can you do a visual assessment of the condition from inside the boat. I read about a benetteau that capsized, loss of all hands, when the keel detached.
Was that boat being ferried back to Europe? That boat had run aground previously and apparently the keel had not been repaired properly or at least that was the story.
Mark Mercier I think it was a corporate boat, as there was civil action against the directors. I guess what I’m really asking is can you tell the condition of the keel bolts from a visual inspection there is a new RUclips channel call something like the Evans exploration, where they have purchased a 49ft Benateu that has clearly had some damage and is flexing when resting on its keel. Suspect I may get my answer there.
Yes that is the same boat, owned by Stormforce a charter racer, being ferried back to UK. The report quotes several sister ships with similiar keel damage after groundings and repairs were not up to standard. The lawsuit award resulted due to a lack of adequate maintenance.
Great channel, in hindsight would you buy a beneteau 361 again for ocean passages?, just asking because full displacement keels get recomended alot..nice to listen to kiwi's out there doing it
Good question! For our circumstances, and our plans (ie small budget, and mostly downwind sailing in the tropics) the Oceanis 361 has been great. Our budget for the boat was £40k, and we paid a little bit less than this for Bacchus. The light displacement and fin keel gives us great downwind speed, and the modern hull (beamy and tall) gives plenty of living space. We only draw 1.55m, and the boat is definitely stronger than she looks! If we planned to do more upwind sailing, or wanted to visit the higher latitudes, I would probably go for a more traditional hull shape; perhaps a full keel, or maybe a fin but with more of a V in the forefoot. But for this trip, I reckon a small production boat like the 361 is great.
Great video! Glad you have a Hydrovane. So many short handed sailors are tempting the devil by depending solely on a below deck autopilot. The removable inner stay is brilliant! How do you tension it?
Great set up. Question - why not fit a tiller autopilot to your Hydrovane -mmm - bak up auto and uses less power than your big one? Great piece of kit the Hydrovane..
Very roomy for 36 feet! Downwind she rolls around a fair bit, as seen on our Atlantic crossing! But I think most boats do. She loves to surf. Upwind in a steep seaway she can slam a little, as the hull in front of the keel is very flat (not much V - hence the easy surfing). I've been on boats that slam a lot worse than we do though. Overall, I think the designers traded upwind comfort for downwind performance, and for a tradewinds voyage like ours, we're quite happy with that.
I've just discovered your channel. Nice and this video too. How much did your nice floating house cost? It's for make my self an idea. I'm planning to buy may be a 40 feet one with two cabins. Maybe odyssey or oceanis.
Hi. Really keen to know about your arch. I live in Sussex on the South Coast UK. Where did you get your stainless steel arch done in Newhaven. Would you recommend the company and do you recall the cost, was it fitted or DIY job.
Hi there - yes we got the frame made up by Matt Pomfrey at PMF Metalwork in Newhaven. He did a good job, although in hindsight I would have added some extra cross-bracing in the corners to stop it wobbling side-to-side. The cost was £4000, which included fitting.
Oh gosh, I don’t know off the top of my head. I know people say you’ll spend 50% of the value of your boat getting her ready and I think we were more like 75% but we knew that going into it.
Professional set up. I like how you showed your "grabbag". You're open about the worst. Most decline that possibility in their 'showoff'. Boatlife is awesome - but serious. Only thing I miss - altho I like the freshwater spray for the dishes (genious) - is a watermaker. Since you aren't using your power, it's a logic upgrade for convenience.
We love our hard dinghy but there are definitely times where we think an inflatable would be easier. We have to be quite careful where we lock her up. She got jammed under a dinghy dock once and drowned but luckily some locals saved her because we were in town. But she’s also ten times nicer to row and we have a sailing rig for her so she’s a lot more fun. We originally decided to build her because her design is a nesting dinghy so she splits in half and can be stored inside herself so would take up less space but in the end we’ve only dismantled her once and that was just to get her into the car to bring her to the boat. Hope that helps, there are definitely pros and cons to both!
I can only hear this guy saying ah or ahm. I tried to count and got over 100 times. Now that I’ve noticed it’s all I hear. Ah aside from that ah it’s ah a great ah video lol. Dang not sure if I do that but if anyone counts please post the aah times.
This is one of the better walkthroughs in the sailing channels. Clear, concise, practical. I'd have the jacklines up the middle of the boat myself but I've seen it both ways. Cheers from Gisborne/Toronto.
Thank you and yes, another sailor also suggested the centred jack lines so we'll give that a go.
As a wannabee Sailor, after watching this I feel like my "learning about boats" has taken a huge leap forward. So many interesting hints and tips here. Thankyou! Great to learn about the batteries and various line-types ;)
Awesome! I'll tell you what, "learning about boats" never ends!
2nd beneteau with a sugar scoop I've seen fitted with a wind vane. Didn't used to think you could do that. Awesome
Well done, guys ... Great job fitting 'er out for your safe travels ... and really well done video tour ... thanks so much for sharing! Cheers!
Love your channel guys, keep up the good work! Bacchus is a lovely boat. All the best from Brighton!
Hi, It is an amazingly well designed boat with your very sensible improvements, I really enjoy your channel and look forward to each new episode and share your adventures remotely from Australia, well done and safe passages..cheers Brian
This was a great tour video for those of us still deciding on what we want / need. THANK YOU
Nice size for 2 people, and thanks for the tour, its always cool to see how everyone has different ideas for storage etc
Congratulation on an excellent Pacific passage as well as your very informative walk through of your boat. Well done!
The best explanation of batteries I’ve heard!!! Thank u. What a great channel!!!
Enjoyed your videos very much. Truly a great adventure. You two were obviously made for each other, so here's to the many adventures to come.
Thanks for the boat tour, always nice to see people’s different setups, we have a 36CC Beneteau, hopefully we,ll go back to sailing when this virus thing clears out a bit more.
Thanks for showing us your set up. Impressed by the inner forestay to deck attachment..
Incredibly helpful to me as I consider what to bring with and what may need an upgrade or fix. I look forward to checking out your other posts. Thanks and good sailing.
Really enjoyed your very practical tour of a sensible sized boat. Well done. 👏
One of the best tours of a production boat made into a blue water cruiser. Thanks. That Dyneema fore stay was interesting!
Excellent walk through which we can really relate to since we also have a Beneteau. Your comment about the autopilot high power consumption is very valid. We couldn’t believe the power used especially in high seas.!
Yes, pretty crazy the increase in consumption. Our Hydrovane was a complete game changer and we never worried about power again.
FYI... Your Boat Tour popped up as recommended viewing today (July 1st) in Canada. As a sailor I follow most of the sailing channels so I was surprised to see I had missed you. Great walk-through of your Oceanis. I look forward to catching up on your past videos and following along as you continue your adventure.
Found you today. Immediately subscribed and liked. So now, binge watching begins. Fair winds. Thanx for sharing ❣
Woohoo! Thank you and enjoy!
Wow! Okay, you are awesome! What a cool walkthrough video! Thank you for sharing!
Great video. Thank you. Really informative. You seem like competent sailors.
Nice boat, like the changes you made. Very good tour, well described!!
Thanks Wayne!
I've been eyeing the 40's, but you def opened my eyes up to a 36... Thanks, very good tour.. Good luck
I think the 2 cabin arrangement is key in that it has a more seagoing galley.
Wow you two have that boat so sorted well done.
Purchased a relatively identical 2001 Beneteau 361 in July. Looking forward to viewing all of your videos. Boat is kept in the upper Chesapeake Bay USA. Plan on taking it to Bermuda and down to the Caribbean at some point.
Thanks for the walkthrough. Already have given some ideas. Cheers.
Fantastic video! Great to see people taking a generic weekender and converting it to a legitimate blue water boat. Good for you, I hope you are loving your trip
Thanks for the tour guys. My empathetic side wants you to be able to cross Panama as soon as possible, but the fun lover in me wants to see as many videos from you two as I can. I'm in a tough spot 😁 Stay safe and healthy!
Thanks Mike, glad to hear you’re enjoying the vids! There will be plenty more to come - I don’t even think we’re halfway home yet!
Just found your channel and will add you to my list of sailing vlogs to follow from now on. I have a 352 and reviewed your boat tour with high interest to see what I can copy. Thanks and all the best from Chesapeake, Maryland!
Welcome, and thanks!
We had the same 361 and earlier, a 1994 351...loved them both, but would have never considered them true blue water boats..
We did a lot of coastal cruising in both. I now have much more respect for those stock Benetaus thanks to you guys !
Yeah, they're great little boats!
Very informative. Love the bamboo pole!!! The only thing I didn’t see was some No 8 wire.
Great boat nice layout perfect boat drink 6,eat 4, sleep 2. Good luck have fun
And party 12... 🥳
Best boat tour ever!
Nice setup thank you for showing your boat. I'm always looking for new ideas. Like using the didgeridoo as a whisker pole :)
Great tour of the boat!
Thank you!
Nice boat tour guys!
Really impressed how clean and tidy all the various additions are. Not heard term keyboards before but they are called clutches I think.
"Keyboards" (or "piano") is a racing term for the whole bank of clutches. Usually there is a dedicated crew member, the "pit", who operates these and with all the pole up, pole down, outhaul, various halyards etc. they end up looking like Rick Wakeman in full flow.
Lovely video... it’s not easy your English for me 😂😂😂 anyhow in France the call piano instead of keyboard, in Italian I’ve no idea and it’s my mother language! 😱
@@Lightw81 ah ok thanks for the info.
I think this video shows what we always suspected: you guys really know what you're doing! Both the thought and execution are impressive.
Thanks Mark!
loved it !
Beautiful Boat
Hi, enjoyed the tour. Noticed your mainsail slugs. Recommend two on the headboard - we were happy to have fitted two when one failed at sea. Search 'slug' on our blog for details. Cheers from two Aussies still in the UK.
Nice advice, thanks!
We love your videos, they bring joy to our lockdown days. It would be good to have a video about your backgrounds and in particular your sailing experience. Those of us that dream of setting sail across the globe often wonder how much sailing experience is required.
Great idea! We have also been asked for this from a couple of our Patreons so we'll hop to it. :) Hope you are keeping well in lockdown!
Fantastic
Great bokat tour, thanks for sharing 👍⛵️⚓️
Warren s/y Legend
Our pleasure, glad you enjoyed!
keep on sailin
You should both be very proud of how well appointed your little vessel is. I've been going to sea for over 20 years and am a ship captain in the merchant marine, the simple tweaks like having the EPIRB within hands reach of your companionway and moving the extinguisher to a safe location can be very subtle changes that may very well save your life. Always dreamed of learning to sail and constantly haunt youtube for these types of videos but the salt in this one kept me on the hook from beginning to end, now a subscriber, keep up the good work!
nice precise tour and i love the practical way you have modified the boat and from the way you talk about it we can feel you love it . did you do any modifications on the rigging of the boat? reinforced any of it ?safe sailing
Outstanding video 👍🇺🇸 My dream one day .
Thanks!
good job
👌👏👏👏👏👏 Excellent, simple and complete. Someday consider adding an SSB radio and a pactor, as a redundant system to the iridium, that will give you a great peace of mind. Enjoy !! Congrats from Spain!!!
Nice!
Thank you for posting this. I am currently upgrading a Gib Sea 402 for an ocean passage and I gleaned a lot from your tour. Picked up a lot tips. I don’t mean to be bossy but do you have a video where you reveal the costs or budget? You mentioned that the frame for the solar panel was expensive but I would be interested to know how much. I am moored in Tokyo bay and with my limited jp language i cannot always get the estimates i need. Btw, for climbing the mast I use ATN Mastclimber. It’s great .
Thanks for this video! Where did you fit the spare water blader on the port side? Did you increase the permanent fuel capacity as well? Cheers! Richard
Wow! You say 'uh' a lot!!! We stopped counting at 100.
Yes we do...
Woo hoo found new sailing vloggers to follow! You've done a fab job of converting her to blue water but wondering how the boat feels in heavy seas? Do you ever wish you'd bought a heavier boat? I'm torn between a boat that's comfortable to live on in the tropics and one that makes me feel very safe and steady at sea.
It's true a lighter boat gets bounced around more, but Bacchus has never made us feel unsafe. On our most recent passage from French Polynesia to New Zealand, we had winds of 30 (and at one point over 40) knots - Bacchus took it all in her stride.
How are you guys doing? I would love to hear from you if you are still posting on social media. I really enjoyed your trip with Bacchus. Fare well. :)
2 cabin is the way to go , makes a great galley & saloon
And a nice big locker in the cockpit!
And a nice big locker in the cockpit!
Hi guys, I have been watching from the beginning and really enjoy your channel. Your intro talks about leaving the UK and traveling back home onboard Bacchus. Do you plan on continuing to sail once you reach home or will that be the end of your adventures?
Getting to NZ will mark the completion of this adventure. There will be new adventures in the future I’m certain, but our plan at this stage is to get to NZ, build a home, and put down some roots there. I’m sure we’ll go sailing again one day though!
What type of hanks do you use on your staysail? If you don’t use the shower how do you take showers ?great video well done and informative. Thank you for taking the time.
Love the dyneema forestay! Do you have pictures of how you fitted the top of the mast? We will probably copy this invention... Great USB and Guitar placements as well! How do you fix the bamboo spinnaker pole ends? What's the BBQ brand? How much spare diesel do you carry? The 75L tank is quite limiting for us..
Hi! For the top of the forestay, we riveted a tang into the mast - helpfully there was already a slot cut in the front of the mast, about 500mm below the masthead, above where the spinnaker pole uphaul comes out.
We then used a dyneema terminal from Bluewave, which is a super-easy way to attach dyneema standing rigging. You just splice a loop in the end, insert the stainless “bail”, then screw the whole thing together. Link to the product here:
www.sky-international.com/product/blue-wave-rope-fork-terminals/
The fork then goes onto the tang with a regular clevis pin.
RE bamboo pole - On the mast end of the bamboo, I’ve just drilled a hole through it and attached a short length of line. I just tie it to the mast with a couple of hitches! (tied to the mount where the regular spinnaker pole would attach). Nothing fancy but it works a treat.
BBQ is a Kiwi Sizzler. A great bit of NZ engineering that I bought over as excess luggage on a Singapore Airlines flight several years ago. The bloke at check-in was thoroughly unimpressed when my 35kg “suitcase” turned out to be less of a suitcase and more of a box, containing a BBQ, an angle grinder, a drill, and various bits of rigging and tackle that I’d scrounged from my dad’s shed. Repacking was demanded, and various fees and charges were levied! Cooks a good steak though...
RE diesel, yeah the 361 has a very small tank! We only carry another 70L in jerry cans, so we don’t have the long range that some yachts have. We’re out here to sail though, so we don’t mind.
Sailing Bacchus Home thanks for the answers 😊 can’t wait to climb our mast again to see what’s going on up there
aaaah nice boat uuuum
HI! I just subscribed as robsg07 and now I subscribe again! 🐳
Gosh if you sell the yacht I would be interested you have it very sorted. Great job on this walk through
Are you based in NZ by any chance? ;)
Hi nope Marbella espania Muchas Gracias Lawrence
Hey guys is that a Watts Davis painting on the lounge wall ?
Some really good tips. Really appreciate your openess.
Cheers Nick
No, not a Watts Davis ☺️
Thank you!
Never heard that about agm battery from victron . Good infomercial , LG double sided panel is also smart , ahhr you electricity engineer ?
Here in the US we call them rope or line clutches.
Thanks for all the details. Who makes those roller sail slides / slugs? They look great.
Think they were a Ronstan product
Nicely done, if you could have, would you move the temporary fore stay farther aft?
I don’t think so. Why’s that?
Question about your choice of boat...any particular reason for Bacchus. I’ve been watching your channel with interest as maybe I have wrongly assumed that Beneteau don’t have a great reputation for quality...I’ve heard and read in multiple places about Beneteaus loosing their rudder at sea for no apparent reason...even caused the sinking of 2 boats...all out there on google. So my point is I’ve been somewhat put off by these observations. Did any of these things factor in your decision making? People I’ve spoken to always swear by rudder on skeg so far less chance of loosing the rudder.
I’d like to hear your perspective.
Probably the best boat tour video out there!
Would you mind telling us what percentage of your purchase price did you spend getting it fitted for cruising?
Thanks and great video!
Awww thank you. I would say in the end to kit Bacchus out we spent somewhere around 65-75% additional of the purchase price.
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That's actually not bad... I'm over 100% and still have to do solar and radar....ugh...
Hi folks. Very useful video and entertaining. Beneteau did a great job with design and you have done a very good job outfitting Baccus. I have some of the same gear on my C&C 35 such as the Raymarine instruments and autopilot. I picked up a number of very useful tips.
One question: what are your thoughts on a fin keel and spade rudder for blue water sailing?
Ahh, yes, that old chestnut! I've done all my offshore miles on modern-design yachts with fins and spades. I appreciate there is a risk of damage to those appendages (which in the worst case can be catastrophic) but plenty of yachts are out there doing it successfully. Just look at the designs entered in the ARC each year - a vast majority are fin-and-spade configuration. The extra speed you get from a modern hull, especially in light airs, means faster passages, which contributes to safety too. Each to their own I guess!
@@sailingbacchushome944 Your thoughts are very much in agreement with mine.
At about 14,000 lbs displacement how does your boat handle rough seas?
Regards, AL.
Far out guys - great overview of your waka. Do you have any further plans to create a larger solar array or maybe install a water maker?
I actually enjoyed your video and will keep tabs no doubt on your adventures!
Thank you! In hindsight, a watermaker would have been a very good addition to the boat. No need for more solar though, we've got plenty of energy!
Awsome boat tour. I think that was the first tour I have seen that really shows the storage under the seats and in the floor. I do have a question for you, my antenna for my old chart plotter died. I was thinking of doing exactly what you are doing, Navionics on my tablet and a backup handheld GPS. Have you noticed any limitations with not having a chart plotter? Thank you so much and I really enjoy your videos!
I've certainly not missed the old chartplotter which we removed. Navionics does just about everything you need, for a fraction of the cost, and I think it's easier and more intuitive to use than a chartplotter. Tablets are so cheap now, we carry two, in case one dies (as well as the handheld GPS). Navionics now lets you use the same subscription across multiple devices, so no extra costs from them.
@@sailingbacchushome944 Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question. I truly appreciate it. I may remove the chart plotter tomorrow. Thank you again and safe and healthy sailing.
Did you look at the 36CC stern cabin looks great.
Yeah, the centre cockpit designs do give plenty of room in the back, and I think you stay quite dry at the helm, being up higher than an aft cockpit. I've not been on board a 36CC before though.
Another great video. I have the same boat and was particularly interested to hear about your batteries. You mentioned what you have for the service batteries, but what have you got for the engine battery?
Thanks! Start batt is just an ordinary lead-acid 85 amp-hour unit, from a car I think.
Too cool for school.really makes it hard to not buy another sail boat and head out through the carribean.dont know how I'll keep from it!!!
Hey I was thinking of berthing in newhaven and was wondering if you had any problems leaving when the tide was low. Also do you mind if I ask how much did you pay for your solar panel frame. Great episode by the way.
We were actually berthed in Brighton but did have some days where we had to wait a while to get in (or out) of the marina. Gosh, the solar panel itself wasnt too expensive, a couple of hundred quid but the stainless steel frame for it was the expensive part (which we got made in Newhaven)
Thanks for the tour! She’s a great looking boat, And I wish you fair winds.....but who designed the iPad holder at the nav station?
Thanks, glad you like her - we certainly do!
Haha, I made the ipad holder right before we left Tenerife. Before, we had just kept the ipad in a waterproof case, but it was always in danger of being dropped, or sat on. I looked at some mounting products online, but they were all quite expensive. I had some scraps of wood left over from the Hydrovane installation, and I just hollowed out a recess on the back of each one with an angle grinder and a chisel, then screwed them onto the bulkhead. The ipad drops into the holder from the top, and I wedge a small square of leather into one corner so it can't move. It took a bit of trial and error to get the fit right, but it's quite secure there now.
Sailing Bacchus Home Thanks for the swift reply... I noticed a “ Pornic” post card below which is only 45 min away, and I would of (or wood have) gladly helped you out!.. stay safe !
Love the video. I’ve owned a 361 for 19 years and it was great to see how you upgraded yours. I am curious, where did you put the extra house batteries?
Sorry, i saw later in the video where you created the extra storage in the port lazarette locker. smart idea.
That’s it! And we then had extra space under the companionway stairs (where the old batts were) - we’ve now got boxes there with engine spares and tools.
How do you reach the solar panel to clean it? The is a bit in the middle of mine I can't reach and the deck brush just moves the muck around.
We got one of those windscreen-cleaning squeegee brushes with a telescopic handle! £10 on Amazon, packs away nice and small. It works well for the solar panel.
one of the few channels where you sound knowledgeable, my biggest question is why a 361, i mean i know it will get you across the trades no problem , but tonga > NZ is not a stretch of water for a boat like this. What was your thinking behind this choice over something with less capsize potential? Also good to see those sail cars, I thought the ones on wheels only worked on a batton car track so I learned something new today :) They defo come in handy when reefing while running.
Thank you! Plenty of boats like ours have sailed between Tonga and NZ and all over the world in rough weather actually. She’s up to it in our opinion.
Question about the boat. Are those the top of the keel bolts in the bilge where you keep the spare chain. Can you do a visual assessment of the condition from inside the boat. I read about a benetteau that capsized, loss of all hands, when the keel detached.
Was that boat being ferried back to Europe? That boat had run aground previously and apparently the keel had not been repaired properly or at least that was the story.
Mark Mercier I think it was a corporate boat, as there was civil action against the directors. I guess what I’m really asking is can you tell the condition of the keel bolts from a visual inspection there is a new RUclips channel call something like the Evans exploration, where they have purchased a 49ft Benateu that has clearly had some damage and is flexing when resting on its keel. Suspect I may get my answer there.
Yes that is the same boat, owned by Stormforce a charter racer, being ferried back to UK. The report quotes several sister ships with similiar keel damage after groundings and repairs were not up to standard. The lawsuit award resulted due to a lack of adequate maintenance.
Great channel, in hindsight would you buy a beneteau 361 again for ocean passages?, just asking because full displacement keels get recomended alot..nice to listen to kiwi's out there doing it
Good question! For our circumstances, and our plans (ie small budget, and mostly downwind sailing in the tropics) the Oceanis 361 has been great. Our budget for the boat was £40k, and we paid a little bit less than this for Bacchus. The light displacement and fin keel gives us great downwind speed, and the modern hull (beamy and tall) gives plenty of living space. We only draw 1.55m, and the boat is definitely stronger than she looks! If we planned to do more upwind sailing, or wanted to visit the higher latitudes, I would probably go for a more traditional hull shape; perhaps a full keel, or maybe a fin but with more of a V in the forefoot. But for this trip, I reckon a small production boat like the 361 is great.
Sailing Bacchus Home thank you for the informative reply ... It's so much better hearing it from people actually doing it. Cheeriness
Great video! Glad you have a Hydrovane. So many short handed sailors are tempting the devil by depending solely on a below deck autopilot. The removable inner stay is brilliant! How do you tension it?
Watched again and got my answer to the inner stay question. I'm going to explore installing one on my sloop. Thanks for a great idea.
Another question on the inner stay relating to potential chafe: do you use traditional steel hanks or Dyneema soft shackles?
Wondering if starlink will work.
Nice episode! I wonder, you have 70 meters of chain. That is an enormous amount of weight. How do you know your chain locker can hold that?
Our chain is only 8mm, so not super-heavy. In some places you have to anchor quite deep, so we wanted the extra length just in case.
@@sailingbacchushome944 have you ever used all scope? we're on 58/10mm and contemplate adding some as well
Great set up. Question - why not fit a tiller autopilot to your Hydrovane -mmm - bak up auto and uses less power than your big one? Great piece of kit the Hydrovane..
Nice lay-out and roomy for its size. How does she handle in a seaway?
Very roomy for 36 feet! Downwind she rolls around a fair bit, as seen on our Atlantic crossing! But I think most boats do. She loves to surf. Upwind in a steep seaway she can slam a little, as the hull in front of the keel is very flat (not much V - hence the easy surfing). I've been on boats that slam a lot worse than we do though. Overall, I think the designers traded upwind comfort for downwind performance, and for a tradewinds voyage like ours, we're quite happy with that.
I've just discovered your channel. Nice and this video too. How much did your nice floating house cost? It's for make my self an idea. I'm planning to buy may be a 40 feet one with two cabins. Maybe odyssey or oceanis.
We paid £37,500 for her
Hi. Really keen to know about your arch. I live in Sussex on the South Coast UK. Where did you get your stainless steel arch done in Newhaven. Would you recommend the company and do you recall the cost, was it fitted or DIY job.
Hi there - yes we got the frame made up by Matt Pomfrey at PMF Metalwork in Newhaven. He did a good job, although in hindsight I would have added some extra cross-bracing in the corners to stop it wobbling side-to-side. The cost was £4000, which included fitting.
How much did you pay for the boat? And how long is the boat? 😎
Was the photo of you before you left taken in ramsgate harbour??
It was indeed! We bought Bacchus in Ipswich and took her to Brighton via Ramsgate. I recall we had a very delicious Greek meal there 😋
where was the picture taken that you showed at 0.52? thanks
Ramsgate! That was our first day owning Bacchus, and we were on passage from Ipswich (where she used to live) to Brighton.
How much $ in upgrades, especially electrical and electronics, did you spend getting her ready. I'm considering a 30' for a live aboard.
Oh gosh, I don’t know off the top of my head. I know people say you’ll spend 50% of the value of your boat getting her ready and I think we were more like 75% but we knew that going into it.
Asher sounds so much like Murray
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No mention of upgrading standing rigging and such?
Our standing rigging was all done just before we purchased Bacchus so should be good for a wee while longer
Professional set up. I like how you showed your "grabbag". You're open about the worst. Most decline that possibility in their 'showoff'. Boatlife is awesome - but serious.
Only thing I miss - altho I like the freshwater spray for the dishes (genious) - is a watermaker. Since you aren't using your power, it's a logic upgrade for convenience.
Can you recommend hard dinghy over inflatable? İs it enough stable like an inflatable one?
We love our hard dinghy but there are definitely times where we think an inflatable would be easier. We have to be quite careful where we lock her up. She got jammed under a dinghy dock once and drowned but luckily some locals saved her because we were in town. But she’s also ten times nicer to row and we have a sailing rig for her so she’s a lot more fun. We originally decided to build her because her design is a nesting dinghy so she splits in half and can be stored inside herself so would take up less space but in the end we’ve only dismantled her once and that was just to get her into the car to bring her to the boat. Hope that helps, there are definitely pros and cons to both!
Forgot to say, yes she’s very stable 😊
cutlery with no cover seems like a knock down nightmare waiting to happen
I can only hear this guy saying ah or ahm. I tried to count and got over 100 times. Now that I’ve noticed it’s all I hear. Ah aside from that ah it’s ah a great ah video lol. Dang not sure if I do that but if anyone counts please post the aah times.
Are you still in Panama? Can you transit the canal?
Yep, still in Panama. The canal is open for yachts, and we're hoping to go through next week, all things going to plan!