Phenomenal parenting. Unconditional love, but also drawing his son's attention to where he might be going wrong for himself in his own goals - and highlighting that he is loved either way. Incredible.
One of the best piece of educational advice I've heard. Just by hearing the flying Dutchman say this gives me the goosebumps. Such a great way to discipline, yet at the same time, show love to your children!!
There is nothing more toxic and more damaging than a kid living in his father's shadow and forced to be like him. Calling his son a loser even after saying that he loves him anyway, is manipulative and toxic parenting. For any success story there is thousands of kids all fuckd up because they tried to be something they were never meant to be. Good for therapists, they are making loads of money with this.
@@miguelrosado6348who is forced lol? Shaqueel wants to become a pro baller himself. He doesnt have to be exactly like his dad (he’s a winger anyway). Just loves the game. No one is forced, Shaqueel is just crazy about football. RVP literally told him; ‘it doesnt matter for me if you make it as a pro or not, I’ll still love you as much’
@@merengue7139 He didn't use the words "pro" or "not". If he had used them, you would be right. He used the words "winner" and"loser". Even if Van Persie doesn't want to, the truth is his kid will ALWAYS be compared with his father. That's a lot of weight on a kid that probably wants to be as good as his father, and being a "loser" for not being able to do it is a heavy heavy burden.
@@miguelrosado6348 bro he used those exact words, what are you saying 😂😂 watch the clip again. He literally said that he said to his son: ‘for me it doesnt matter if you make it as a professional footballer or not, I will love you for the same amount’.. then he says ‘but YOU say you want this’ implying that its Shaqueel himself who wants to chase this dream. So how is that forced? lol
We used this in our parents group chat, it’s the best advice a parent could give their son! All mindset, growth is the most important thing you can give a young athlete.
Was listening to your end of year review podcast with Happy podcast... and loved when you shared this clip and what it meant to you all. Great to find your podcast in 2021! love what you are sharing each week. Thanks 🖤🖤🖤
This is what fathers do. And society doesn't appreciate it. He is a batter player and a person because his father told him the truth. You sound like a loser but you don't have to be a loser. Do the work. Be better. And that's it.
@@GamesTribeNow women are typically coddled and don’t have to deal with the harsh realities of life like men do. They can’t give good advice to a young man because they have never really strived for anything, they just attach themselves to a man that has. Of course there’s always exceptions to this but for the most part it’s a man’s job to give his son the harsh reality.
@@Timbermannetjef you listen carefully you can hear him say that it's his son who keeps insisting to be a footballer. His dad is ok with whatever his son wants to be
while dutch people have a very unique style of communicating, one thing that i will always appreciate about our country is the directness and 'no sugarcoating' approach to communication
Yep. I've have found at times Dutch people hard to get on with in my day-to-day life as an English person. But like you say, there is a time and place for directness, and the Dutch are masters at it. A lot to be learned!
@@firstspar We are direct because culturally we think its very rude not to be honest with you, what is worse than giving someone false hope? Most people appreciate the openness a small fraction calls it rude but whatever atleast we didn't lie right😂
It also sounds a lot harsher in english than it does in dutch. In english loser is also used as a direct insult while in dutch "verliezer" only refers to someone that loses a game or something.
I'm dutch and I was just thinking: This thing that Van Persie did was probably very dutch. It's so direct. And his son complaining about everything is also very dutch, haha.
One of the greatest pieces of advice I have heard and is applicable to life, not just ball. So many people want to blame the refs, not getting passed to, tough play by the opponent and on and on...
That is just life advice right there. If you blame others you'll never improve. We're quick to take the credit but rarely the blame. If you own it all you'll have no excuses left, who you see in the mirror will always be your toughest opponent but can be closest ally.
It sounds stupid, but I realized this during gaming. I wanted to get higher on the ladder, but I kept being teamed up with "losers" - who were also complaining to being teamed up with "losers". One day I realized that it's no use to blame others, the only thing I could do was do what is best for my team. From that day on I climbed up the ladder. I still use this mentally during my work in IT.
I was not really motivated to play hardcore soccer.. But I still play soccer and enjoy it, Im 40 now.. Not winning in life, but enjoying the simple things.
You are doing what you love in life with the people you love in life and keeping yourself healthy doing stuff like that. To me as a 19 year old you are a walking W man!
I swear I could never ever ever hate this guy even when he left Arsenal for Man United. Back then I understood why he did it and what he did it for. Very intelligent man, I always thought that and now I know it…
Van Persie's wife is Maroccan. I believe Van Persie's mother is also not of Dutch heritage. It's an international kind of a family, which is not at all surprising with someone who's as worldly as Van Persie is.
He’s indirectly trying to say heung min son so he made up a story of him saying about his actual son. Just kidding, both super talented and good players, could’ve won more if they join United earlier.
reminds me of a friend of mine, always complaining about external things but never once actually looking at himself. not only is it a bad mentality but it's also just annoying to the people that you know.
Funny. I saw this video today and I also told my daughter (six years) today, if she likes to be the best at something then she has to find out what she really likes to do and then she has to do more in this hobby than the others. But if she likes to have many hobbies, then there is to less time for the hobby, where she likes to be the best. So she has to decide if she really want to be the best in one sport or she likes to do different things, but then she has to realize that she will not be the best. I learned her that it is ok not to be the best, that is hard work to be the best and that she can choose a life where she has not to be the best, but can have fun by doing different sports.
If the relationship between father and son is otherwise rock solid you can probably just about get away with using phrases like 'You sound like a loser, but...' The reality is that most people who become successful in life had parents that pushed them hard from a young age and they are grateful for it later in life.
And that goes as a universal law for every father-son relationship in the world. We're allowed to be failures (like me) without losing the love of our parents (or later, our partners).
this is the masculine energy kids need growing up if you abandon them to the women-dominated school system they'd tell him that this is a microaggression and that everybody is a winner or some bs like that
My father called my teenaged self a bitch and told me I'd amount to nothing more than pushing trolleys, though I've certainly done a little more than that in life (on my own steam, little to do with his words). His criticism has held me back and kept me emotionally crippled for years. I don't believe tough love or lack of encouragement always works, especially not with more sensitive kids with low esteem.
Your case is abuse. Van Persie only gave that advice after he heard his son blaming others. You should always blame yourself first he basically said, otherwise you sound like a loser, either way I will still always love you. Ur case is much more horrible, I am sorry to hear that.
Hahahahhahaa good one. He assessed that he have to blame himself for still being in Arsenal so he make improvements by joining United and a goat manager. Wise choices.
Impressive advice, for someone who might not have a father with the name van Persie. Having a contract at 15 wuth the name van Persie in Holland is maybe little bit easier than having a contract with a non pro father in the background. Without having seen anyome this seems to be the way for the son's of Ex Pro players.
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Phenomenal parenting. Unconditional love, but also drawing his son's attention to where he might be going wrong for himself in his own goals - and highlighting that he is loved either way. Incredible.
Agree.
One of the best piece of educational advice I've heard. Just by hearing the flying Dutchman say this gives me the goosebumps. Such a great way to discipline, yet at the same time, show love to your children!!
@Ehsan Khan Come on... there is actually only 1 flying Dutchman when it comes to football, Dennis Bergkamp.. give credit where credit is due.
@@erikstigter7897 Bergkamp was the non-flying Dutchman.
I'd say Mark Overmars was the flying Dutchman.
It's manipulative and toxic. The kid will always feel a loser if he doesn't succeed.
@@miguelrosado6348 snowflake .
And Shaqueel Van Persie has just signed professional contact with Feyenoord at just 15. achieving the same feat as his father. Brilliant parenting.
Actually on fire this season, he has something like 23 goals in 19 games and debuted and scored for Holland U17 as well. He’s going places
There is nothing more toxic and more damaging than a kid living in his father's shadow and forced to be like him. Calling his son a loser even after saying that he loves him anyway, is manipulative and toxic parenting.
For any success story there is thousands of kids all fuckd up because they tried to be something they were never meant to be. Good for therapists, they are making loads of money with this.
@@miguelrosado6348who is forced lol? Shaqueel wants to become a pro baller himself. He doesnt have to be exactly like his dad (he’s a winger anyway). Just loves the game. No one is forced, Shaqueel is just crazy about football. RVP literally told him; ‘it doesnt matter for me if you make it as a pro or not, I’ll still love you as much’
@@merengue7139 He didn't use the words "pro" or "not". If he had used them, you would be right. He used the words "winner" and"loser".
Even if Van Persie doesn't want to, the truth is his kid will ALWAYS be compared with his father. That's a lot of weight on a kid that probably wants to be as good as his father, and being a "loser" for not being able to do it is a heavy heavy burden.
@@miguelrosado6348 bro he used those exact words, what are you saying 😂😂 watch the clip again. He literally said that he said to his son: ‘for me it doesnt matter if you make it as a professional footballer or not, I will love you for the same amount’.. then he says ‘but YOU say you want this’ implying that its Shaqueel himself who wants to chase this dream. So how is that forced? lol
Brilliant piece of advice on parenting as well as life from a winner!
Yea u right
he gives tough advice but at same time he gives support and love by saying "i love you no matter what"
I would argue it's firm love
We used this in our parents group chat, it’s the best advice a parent could give their son! All mindset, growth is the most important thing you can give a young athlete.
"You either take control or you end up at spurs"
Did Van Persie say that? 😂
or chelsea
@@lordspalse0062 No, but he might as well should've said that as an example.
@@lordspalse0062 yea, word for word
That’s fucked up man 😒
What a mature way to approach a conversation with your kid! Great advise for parents.
Honest truths, with a kind edge. Taking up on the advice already at age 13 is gonna do wonders for his passion.
Was listening to your end of year review podcast with Happy podcast... and loved when you shared this clip and what it meant to you all. Great to find your podcast in 2021! love what you are sharing each week. Thanks 🖤🖤🖤
Just signed his 1st professional contract. since then he achieved goal of the month award and top scorer award
This is what fathers do.
And society doesn't appreciate it. He is a batter player and a person because his father told him the truth. You sound like a loser but you don't have to be a loser. Do the work. Be better. And that's it.
Bingo.
Yes, moms don't dish out tough love as much, especially not to sons.
Such a loser thing to do, making up things that society does.
@@dontliebehonest6545 keep being delusional foid
@@GamesTribeNow women are typically coddled and don’t have to deal with the harsh realities of life like men do. They can’t give good advice to a young man because they have never really strived for anything, they just attach themselves to a man that has. Of course there’s always exceptions to this but for the most part it’s a man’s job to give his son the harsh reality.
If van persie's lad makes it as a footballer or at life in general, he will probably owe it to this chat. Top parenting.
This is a priceless advice. You can find this scenario in pretty much every place or day.
in sports yes, otherwise I don't see how this applies
Wish I had a dad like that when I was younger.
A lot of people I think 😃
Fantastic "speech" from RvP. If only we could inject all this fantastic advice from all these Pods directly into our kids heads hey?! 👍
He’s 13 hé, said it so proud 😂❤
this mentality from one of the best strikers of his entire generation. not surprised
Dad, I feel down and disappointed.
Dad: You sound like a loser.
😂😂😂
Maybe the kid wants to be something else.. Football is just one thing in life, so many options!
@@Timbermannetje doesn't matter, he has to take control and better himself instead of complaining about others .
Way to miss the point and interpret it in the least charitable way possible.
@@Timbermannetjef you listen carefully you can hear him say that it's his son who keeps insisting to be a footballer. His dad is ok with whatever his son wants to be
That’s a proud dad, The moment he see his boy go hard, He said to himself “That’s my boy”.
I wish someone had told me words like that as a kid...
That's a Chad move right there.
Love you, RVP and MU.
while dutch people have a very unique style of communicating, one thing that i will always appreciate about our country is the directness and 'no sugarcoating' approach to communication
Yep. I've have found at times Dutch people hard to get on with in my day-to-day life as an English person. But like you say, there is a time and place for directness, and the Dutch are masters at it. A lot to be learned!
@@firstspar We are direct because culturally we think its very rude not to be honest with you, what is worse than giving someone false hope?
Most people appreciate the openness a small fraction calls it rude but whatever atleast we didn't lie right😂
It also sounds a lot harsher in english than it does in dutch. In english loser is also used as a direct insult while in dutch "verliezer" only refers to someone that loses a game or something.
I'm dutch and I was just thinking: This thing that Van Persie did was probably very dutch. It's so direct. And his son complaining about everything is also very dutch, haha.
One of the greatest pieces of advice I have heard and is applicable to life, not just ball. So many people want to blame the refs, not getting passed to, tough play by the opponent and on and on...
With a name like Shaqueel Van Persie this boy can't ever be a loser! He will be a great player
so true, lol. What a name!
Elite name, beautiful. My favourite nba player haha
That is just life advice right there. If you blame others you'll never improve. We're quick to take the credit but rarely the blame. If you own it all you'll have no excuses left, who you see in the mirror will always be your toughest opponent but can be closest ally.
What a lucky young man that boy is having a dad like that
My father says the exact same thing pretty much word for word lol. Love him ❤
It sounds stupid, but I realized this during gaming. I wanted to get higher on the ladder, but I kept being teamed up with "losers" - who were also complaining to being teamed up with "losers". One day I realized that it's no use to blame others, the only thing I could do was do what is best for my team. From that day on I climbed up the ladder. I still use this mentally during my work in IT.
Constructive criticism , in a sound and soft manner seems like van Persie is a really good parent.
I was not really motivated to play hardcore soccer.. But I still play soccer and enjoy it, Im 40 now.. Not winning in life, but enjoying the simple things.
That's winning mate
You are doing what you love in life with the people you love in life and keeping yourself healthy doing stuff like that. To me as a 19 year old you are a walking W man!
Goes to show with a dedicated father a father providing references is a treasure
Parents are the real motivators in the world ❤❤❤
Parenting 101. Perfectly executed.
Sometimes harsh words really work...especially when they are not with anger but genuine care
Great Advice 👍
I swear I could never ever ever hate this guy even when he left Arsenal for Man United. Back then I understood why he did it and what he did it for. Very intelligent man, I always thought that and now I know it…
Robin: "You sound like a loser."
Robin's son: "That's because I'm your son."
Van Persie took control of his career and became a Premier League champion 😎
I miss him as a player. He was great!
Van Persie was absolutely lethal on the field 🔥
listening to this i kinda realized what i missed out on by not having a father in my life. this is good parenting.
Beautiful!
W player and Father❤
That’s a conversation I can’t wait to have with my kids
Robin Van Persie no mercy
In my 30s I realised this, what a lovely family ❤
Wooow, awesome! Amazing!
You're a great father Ruuben 👍
Great clip! I still cant process that a dutch boy is called Shaquille though
Van Persie's wife is Maroccan. I believe Van Persie's mother is also not of Dutch heritage. It's an international kind of a family, which is not at all surprising with someone who's as worldly as Van Persie is.
Can’t even imagine having a father who’s a legend pro
All good Fathers are Legends mate ...it's just the Bad ones who are not
Never heard this kind of thing in my whole life and I’m 26 now but better late than never
Van Persie is such an elegant man!
Sir I'm from Meghalaya northeast India proud of you
Excellent
This is absolutely fantastic parenting!
Respect to RvP! I wish Shaqueel all the best in his career! He sounds like a winner 💪🏼👍🏻 because his dad is a winner!!
"Son, you are a loser" 😂😅
He’s indirectly trying to say heung min son so he made up a story of him saying about his actual son. Just kidding, both super talented and good players, could’ve won more if they join United earlier.
more parents n kids need to hear this
Shaqueel: "At least i'm not a traitor"
Great advice but surely I’m not the only one that thought I’d accidentally clicked on a Dutch video after the ‘actually’ pronunciation 😂
reminds me of a friend of mine, always complaining about external things but never once actually looking at himself. not only is it a bad mentality but it's also just annoying to the people that you know.
I thought he meant the spurs striker
Why proper capitalization is important
The framing of what he said is funny 😂
Funny.
I saw this video today and I also told my daughter (six years) today,
if she likes to be the best at something then she has to find out what
she really likes to do and then she has to do more in this hobby than the others.
But if she likes to have many hobbies, then there is to less time for the hobby,
where she likes to be the best.
So she has to decide if she really want to be the best in one sport or she likes to do different things,
but then she has to realize that she will not be the best.
I learned her that it is ok not to be the best,
that is hard work to be the best and that she can choose a life where she has not to be the best,
but can have fun by doing different sports.
I LOVE IT!
You either take control or end up being controlled
Robin Van Balboa
If the relationship between father and son is otherwise rock solid you can probably just about get away with using phrases like 'You sound like a loser, but...'
The reality is that most people who become successful in life had parents that pushed them hard from a young age and they are grateful for it later in life.
pretty wholesome ngl
Based beyond belief.
brilliant
"Responsibility".
I would say even for family and friends, another responsibility extends beyond yourself in that direction.
How about that header against Spain during the opener of the Brazilian World Cup?
Van Persie is a winning parent.
10/10, a better parent than mine
His son did not inherite his father's magical left foot. From 2011-2013, RVP was on par with CR7 and Messi.
Did he say his son was 30 now. Funniest end i could have imagined lol
And that goes as a universal law for every father-son relationship in the world. We're allowed to be failures (like me) without losing the love of our parents (or later, our partners).
I feel personally attached by this and I’m 27
Ive had a few father figures , but jheeeeeez bro, no wonder these talents often stay in the bloodline….
Perfect
Too many losers out there that never got to hear this
Interesting advice.
sounds exactly like my dad lol.
this is the masculine energy kids need growing up
if you abandon them to the women-dominated school system they'd tell him that this is a microaggression and that everybody is a winner or some bs like that
"HEY!! BIG GUY!!!" ~ If Men Gassed Each Other Up Like Women ~ Ryan Long.
Well done, Dad!
Yeah RVP When Spain Make you feel like Looser in Johannesburg
You just gave answer in most Van Persie Way possible in Salvador
Flying Dutchman 🇳🇱
hahahaha why do you hate him?
Spain cheated their way into that final and they cheated their way into winning it
Just like Argentina did in Brazil and again in Qatar
My father called my teenaged self a bitch and told me I'd amount to nothing more than pushing trolleys, though I've certainly done a little more than that in life (on my own steam, little to do with his words). His criticism has held me back and kept me emotionally crippled for years. I don't believe tough love or lack of encouragement always works, especially not with more sensitive kids with low esteem.
Agreed. Its not a one stop shop for all kids.
Your case is abuse. Van Persie only gave that advice after he heard his son blaming others. You should always blame yourself first he basically said, otherwise you sound like a loser, either way I will still always love you. Ur case is much more horrible, I am sorry to hear that.
He owerwatched the speech of Rocky Balboa....
This is why he left Arsenal, because our fans act the exact same way...
Yeah and then he called the head coach and said play my son or off with your head!! Phone call over!!!
Imagine being Van Persie's son
Robin knew he was a loser at arsenal so he went to a winner 🏆
Hahahahhahaa good one. He assessed that he have to blame himself for still being in Arsenal so he make improvements by joining United and a goat manager. Wise choices.
Impressive advice, for someone who might not have a father with the name van Persie. Having a contract at 15 wuth the name van Persie in Holland is maybe little bit easier than having a contract with a non pro father in the background. Without having seen anyome this seems to be the way for the son's of Ex Pro players.
He's actually a big talent
“loser??! You learned nothing from Dennis Bergkamp, just the medical room talmbout 'Ima loser' ” -Shaqueel probably
reverse psychology parenting
but effective
Reverse psychology?
Its called owning up to your mistakes and taking responsibilities😂
That's how you raise a boy into a man.